all these states have taken the same unfriendly steps towards russian diplomats in our foreign ministry, saying that this causes serious damage to bilateral relations. well, one more news from smolenskaya square , the moscow office of the canadian state television and radio corporation cbc is closing. the accreditation of journalists will be canceled and this is also a response to unfriendly actions against the russian company russia today the moscow city duma, meanwhile, reported that new square may appear in the capital. square of the defenders of donbass in honor of heroes who are now fighting against nazism offer to name an unnamed territory in the prestin area. the us embassy is also located there and they are going to assign a new address to it, this item is stipulated in the proposal that

the deputies sent to the government of moscow. development and open new horizons among the laureates choreographer boris efman, creator of the innovative dance academy. the director of the vakhtangov theater, kirill krok, the artist and animators, the creators of the humanitarian olympiad for schoolchildren and the authors of unique museum projects, also received awards . the museum and cinema halls, model libraries are being re-equipped with children's art schools and colleges of a special mention. deserves a project digital culture. it enables millions of our citizens who live in small towns and villages to attend online concerts to enjoy music, watch theatrical performances, listen to lectures and visit famous museums. and that

's all for now we are following the development of events, and the information channel on the first will continue the program time will tell. hello, the program time will tell, we continue to work live. i'm artyom sheinin, we continue to talk about the event, which we have been observing for more than one time day. e, about which they always started talking yesterday, both in a practical and symbolic sense. well, as of today, and it looks like, let's say, in figures and facts, the official representative of the ministry of defense of the russian federation, major general kanashkov, please. in mariupol, the azov stalboviks of the azov nationalist unit and ukrainian servicemen blocked at the plant continued to surrender over the past day, 694 militants served as weapons and surrendered. including 29

wounded, on may 16, 959 militants surrendered, in including 80 wounded, of which 51 who needed inpatient treatment were placed in the novoazovsk hospital of the donetsk people's republic. i continue to surrender, we say we continue, either the evacuation, only this operation, or the execution of some order , the ukrainian side says, but in fact, from the point of view of how i look at it and what i want to share with you. it is not so important now. this is not the most important thing, because we all know what it is. actually. this is surrender . and then how they want to present it for themselves and for your society. it just says a lot about themselves and their society. actually, exactly like what i'm going to talk about, because all these people that you see on these e, on this video give up, if

basically, but look at their average age, their average age will be somewhere - then 30-35 years old. and this suggests that this is the embodiment or aceto- personification of that very ukraine, but this one, independently and independent, which was built all these years, when, in fact, these people were born, this is what happened as a result of the experiment that was put on ukraine, which became independent. they were born at this time. they lived at that time , they were brought up at that time, and they became, let's say, the embodiment of these tattoos of these chevrons, which they recently proudly wore. and now, of course, they have torn themselves apart; this has become the embodiment of that very ukraine, that very ukraine in which they were born, in which they developed, which slowly, as we all know. and now we see it turned into

anti-russia, in which they burned books, in which they burned books, because in these books something was written that i liked about our joint past, in which it was not written that they dug up the black sea, they dug up the black sea, in which it was written some story was written for many hundreds of years, in which we were together, in which we were either one people, or, so to speak, fraternal peoples. and they didn't like it. it was etched out of their lives. and with those people whom we see in these frames, surrendering. it turned out better than with someone else just like when we see footage. e in the same odessa when they remove the memorial plaque from e. zhukov, we see some young people who grew up in this ukraine who bring it down and other young people who are trying to prevent this, because ukraine ukraine remained heterogeneous anyway, in ukraine there were different people. and those who are surrendering today pretending that they are going to evacuate. this is the

part of ukraine that we managed to reflash as much as possible to make the most anti-russians. and this people for whom russia was turned into russia and the russians were turned into something, into some kind of jupel , into some kind of, so to speak, into some kind of symbol. eh, hatred - these are people who grew up trampling these flags, and many of them in the fourteenth year. uh, in fact, it was 15-16-17 years old 18. these are the same people who, in front of many of them, uh, so to speak, who only grew and took shape, and cut these very cakes, and who depicted a russian baby with russian flag and so on. why am i saying all this. i am nobody i'm going to justify. i'm not going to smear anyone. i am not going to. i am not a priest and not a poet to call for mercy on the fallen. i'm only talking about what we're dealing with right now, looking at these people. this is a symbol of the very ukraine that has developed over 30 years. more precisely, the way they wanted to

make it, it remained largely heterogeneous, and this is the brightest part of it - the soldiers. the same ukraine which, after the start of our special military operation, from the tv screens through the mouths of its tv presenters, not bloggers, nor ukrainian sloggers which she called through the mouths of her tv presenters. that's why i remind you of this so that you don't forget it. what country do these soldiers who are surrendering now represent, please, sooner or later you will become a wife, because you will find the ukrainian people for months or resorts in turkey. you see, what we see now is surrendering what we see now. and, well, as if disarmed - this is surrendering

. that part of ukraine that grew up on all this and from all this, which grew out of this leading news, which grew out of another news anchor. it's all one thing, these soldiers are part of the image of ukraine that they created for themselves with an idea of ​​who they are and what they can do for this. i remind you of another manifestation of the side that they represent , please. we need victory if it means slaughtering all your families. i will be one of the first to do so. i hope that such a nation as russia will never again remain on this land, these geeks who litter this land, if the ukrainians have the opportunity that they now they’re doing crumbling, cutting, killing moskals, then i hope everyone will contribute and kill at least one muscovite, and yes, i understand the emotions and feelings justified by many of you who are now looking at the footage of their dacha being captured,

like a soldier of the country, in which it sounded on tv and pumped people up with it. notice everything. this time, nothing like this sounded from the screens of our tvs, nothing like that even after it sounded from the screens of their tv. this is in the performance of a doctor, which we all, perhaps, will never forget, but here now, looking at these footage. we must not forget that these are the soldiers of the country that has been raised. and neatly folded, in which something like this could be possible on tv. listen. i instructed my doctors to always be a great calmer and say that as soon as a person is parallel. he is no longer an enemy, but a patient, but now a very strict order for all men to castrate, because they are cockroaches, not people and believe me, all the doctors who saved the patient's life in russians will die here, die in large numbers of those who

leaving will remember the nightmare of the ukrainian land, as the germans remember. and now, having shown you all this, i will remind you, everything, this is for you and for yourself. i'm talking about what i understand, the feeling of those who are perplexed. why are we doing this to them? why do we treat the avant-garde with the guard ourselves, who declared this guard , remember this radish, who on february 26 told how they are in heaven on earth. and at sea they will cut to destroy the russians and go on the counteroffensive, and so on and so forth, we all remember this, and of course on an emotional level. we are now looking at them surrendering , and we are asking each other questions. and this is how we are. why can you disagree with me in my answer? why? exactly, because we are what they were taught to

hate with lies about us. we are russia, we are people in us there is no hatred for them, because they are like that and exactly, therefore we behave and will behave like this even with them. yes, we will treat them alone today, dear woman in the morning, and having heard on the news that another portion of the wounded azovites was taken to the hospital. sincerely asked me what they would be treat. and i said yes? because it is the only way we can explain to ourselves and our children. and to the parents of soldiers fighting and dying. why are we there only so we can understand that we came there to liberate, when russia, about which they have been lied to for 30

years, many of them are of these, who are now lying in the corridors of these hospitals. many of them have never been to russia. they were raised in hatred of russia and the fact that they now have the first way to face the fact that russia is such. this is a major turning point. this is a major turning point for many ukraine, who will see this for their peers, who are also grown on what i showed you and who is still in this cocoon of hatred that they have been created there all these years and continue to pump now. and here it is this is what the russia that exists actually does, and not in their sick, inflamed, distorted consciousness, and therefore, yes, we will do it and yes, we will be surprised, looking at the footage. e fighters of the 107th people's militia regiment of the dpr who sleep on the floor in the same hospital in the same novoazovsk hospital where are these fighters at the cro. reicha lie in their beds and

are treated, but these guys sleep on the floor. because i repeat once again, we are russians and we are those russians. what they wanted to make them believe, that no, that we are orcs that we are modern yes, here we are and we can do this and so will those who from them must be cured. we will cure, and those who should be convicted of a crime, who will be investigated in court, and not out of lawlessness. as they did with our wounded with our prisoners with many in their country without trial or investigation, killing pus in prisons, and so on and so forth, including with the participation of one of them, we will have everything according to the law and yes, we will grit our teeth. and ask this question. why do we have no options to be different, because as soon as we stop being different, as soon as we come there as

punishers. we won't have an answer right away . why did we come, who ask there are many why you came to us. and when we say that we have come to set you free, brothers. we must come there brothers and liberators and yes we will ask questions like many do. why do they go out without handing in their weapons? here's the answer. many people asked me yesterday, i was talking about this on the air, why do they go out without weapons with weapons. they go out and fold. yes, i can now ask the question that they have a bit too much light rifle, and where are the machine guns, and where is everything else, and so on. i think that special trained people will clean it up. i think that they will clean it up when they all surrender, we need everyone to surrender. and that's why we do what we do and let's gnash our teeth and do it. yes, i do not have an answer to the question of my friends, who showered us with them since yesterday. and why do they surrender without raising their hands, hands are a symbol of surrender, raised

hands, and we knew that the marines of the thirty -sixth brigade, who surrendered and we saw these shots, knew perfectly well how they surrender and went to surrender captured with hands up. i don't have an answer to the question. why do they come out with their hands up? want to hear my answer to yourself. i don't know why it's like that, i guess so it is necessary so it is necessary, for some reason and for some reason , in order to give us this bubble of hatred and this fake world this fake country that was created by some kind of russia so that we can have it well, roughly speaking, stick this bubble and turn many of them in normal people. they can many of them become normal people. because now i know this for sure during interrogations, many of them immediately switch to a very even, correct and direct russian language. i don't justify them. i'm talking about the fact that we must understand this, that if we came

there to break through this bubble of lies of fakes and the idea of ​​yourself as and what about them as something like that, we should be different. we must be people, especially since they, including with this story, their captivity continue to reflash ukrainian society by those who created it this way, for this it is enough to read the western headlines, the media that continue to lay them with this neuro-linguistic programming into the head of some unreal reality, which continues to remake it, telling that it is some the exchange that this is some kind of battle, that they are performing a combat mission, and so on and so forth, this is an endless evacuation. this is a continuation of the same bubble, inside of which they burned the flags. they burned to her, i did not remove the monuments. well, in the end, those who did it, and the country that did it, forced them to do it. they will find themselves in the situation of these very prisoners, who will be surprised that they are being treated because they are being treated

humanely. and some of them are not all, and some of them will think, and some changes of consciousness will come from them both among these and among those who will find out about it anyway, if only because they are watching us there too. now i know for sure that they watch it here and there, and they will hear it. and that's only when we behave like this and we achieve it like that, only then we will actually win, because our victory is not in killing them. it is they who want to kill, kill, kill, soldiers, women, children, simply russians, through the mouths of their statesmen, the mayor writes about this in their large cities. they write about it on tv , they talk about it, they boil with this hatred. we also have it, but it’s different and our victory will be exactly when we wipe this rotten bubble, and we’ll pierce it, and then we’ll pierce it, and for this

we need to remain human, no matter how difficult it is sometimes, and no matter how the teeth didn't creak. by the way, yesterday we started talking about this on the air with dmitry steshin, a special correspondent for komsomolskaya pravda. and he told me a very interesting conversation that he had as once with one of these people who came out of these catacombs a few days ago and they started talking with one of them. well, why did we collide at all and he said, as i remember, a young eighteen-year-old boy from lviv , in my opinion, the depths of the region still collided with wicked people with people. so here we need to stay moon and this is the most important thing. victory in this, but for this you will have to go through difficult trials, as on the battlefield, as well as with such stories, oh, which we will now just continue with dmitry steshin to talk, who listened to us all this time. hello dmitry. good afternoon. yesterday we were forced to interrupt because the

ether ended. you said a lot of interesting things, i'm sure you have even more. tell us, we are listening to you with impatience about today about yesterday the day before yesterday. let's go today according to official data. this is the only reliable data of the territorial equipment. the dpr left 962 people from the territory of azov in the middle of the day yesterday. they went out at night to me here are the guys there with the front line was told that they just crawled like cockroaches from all the cracks until 10:00 pm. they crawled out to them. even the whole thing, the road is illuminated by flares, because there the whole area on the lunar landscape is there. it is difficult for a normal healthy person to move through these fragments of the wounded, they did not all go out, because many of the bunkers were filled up. just yesterday, yes, there was one there, and the fighter was sitting with

azov and began to explain how it means it’s right to hide the bunker with a 500 bomb. it should be three hits in one place at one point, the building of the workshop first collapses from the roof. then it means that a funnel is planned and already the third bomb breaks through this hmm six-meter concrete pillow to the very bunker, but it’s clear that it’s very difficult to bomb like that, and i understand that ours, well, it doesn’t exactly hurt, because according to him, of course, it was scary, they were terribly jammed during the bombing, but they were sitting in their bunkers playing counter-strike next door. actually, they, uh, one of the founders of the battalion is now the azov regiment, yes. he me he introduced himself and said that, well, we would basically sit there until the new year. well, it is clear that all this needs to be shared. uh, not much even in half. uh, water, they had no food. for a long time already 10 days, probably, at the time of delivery, and

in fact, there were no prospects. they first here according to their stories, as they told me . they therefore believed in the diplomacy. they even drew some schemes of counterattacks towards them, they believed that they might be taken from the sea, then they were promised an air bridge via video, like armies a pause in stalingrad, but in the end they didn’t drop it, they didn’t even try to throw it at azov, there was nothing there, no ammunition, no food. well it is clear. we have everything blocked by air defense there. yes, it is difficult to do this. and uh, our negotiating team that worked with them. well, why did i find their weak point, and ours was not cunning, not deceived in such difficult negotiations, it is difficult to lie, you are looking for compromises. here i was unable to talk to one of the members of the negotiation group. and their thinnest point is in the defense system. eh, let's say mental. so it is was that at some point they realized that

kiev absolutely did not need them alive. uh, the regiment of the battalion, then the floor, the goats must be understood that this is an extraterritorial, military formation on the territory of ukraine, we still don’t even know for sure who it was subordinate to, but we just know that it was very well funded. here, they stood up for each of the people with whom i spoke. they had equipment there for one and a half, two and a half thousand dollars. very expensive. and there were kalashnikovs. well, our dear old kalashnikovs have other weapons. they didn't have in expensive body kit, well, for reference. a good collimator sight is already for 100,000 rubles. it’s worth it and in kiev they understood that if they became the predators of azov, as their militias call the psc nitrogen steel , they will pull them out of there, then they will have to bring them to kiev to arrange a triumph for them, they will become heroes of ukraine and start asking questions. why were they trapped. why didn't anyone block them? and

why is it happening there at all, uh, we practically liberated the territory of the lc. uh, and uh, pretty serious territory. along the coast the sea of ​​azov is now the inland sea of ​​russia why does the kievan political authorities mean that this was allowed. here, well, i don't know their tensions, maybe there was an assault with a bow and a new coups and so on. well, in general, kiev needed the dead. and since the guys there are all young , these are the ones with whom i talked, well, up to thirty, well, beards, of course, they seriously change their age. well , yeah, well, before 30, most of them, uh, matured. there they became adults somewhere on the verge. here is the last maidan in the fourteenth year, and it is clear that it took 8 years propaganda formed from them. well, the personality of a certain warehouse. well, that is, in this sense, we are really dealing not only with specific people who surrender, but

with a certain product of a country that has lived all over, in this, in this state, respectively, i have a question for you. here you are, as i understand it , you talked to them, you asked them some questions. you have said here several times this word that they believed, they believed in one thing in another in the third. how do you find it? their psychological state now, because if a person believed in something for a long time, and then he had to do something unthinkable. and it's only been 2 months. we remember the radish on february 26, which was going to counter-attack there, go and so on. they have some kind of moral breakdown in those with whom you are talking, or these are people who simply really focused on some kind of new reality. how do you rate them? they performed two functions, firstly, they were, as it were, representatives of the publishing side of the time. secondly, they had the task of clearing the passage, under which they had to go out immediately steel under e railway lines and pipelines

and part of the avenue, which did not have time to mine and secondly, they had to look accordingly. yes, but how is the line of behavior of the psychological surrenderers. yes, they have to show that they don’t really need it. that's why they were pretty clean. they didn't look defeated. this is how i put it in my report. they looked like losers, losers in one battle for the call of steel. and at the same time, they did not look into our eyes, yes, they looked at the donkey, well it is clear that no aggression no rudeness. we there asked them different questions about the russian language in ukraine. and and how did i ask them? why did we then bloody figured out? you? well, because my friend, a militiaman, who has been fighting there since the fourteenth year, is also a journalist, was with me. he has a disability. he was wounded near the airport in the

fourteenth by a fragment of a tank shell, but there he had a lot that he survived and this war was looking for him all his life . surprisingly, he found a common language with one of the zazovites. i even left them there. they are somewhere they often stood and talked, it seemed that they had also been fighting since the fourteenth year, when already in the evening, otherwise on a terrible day we got to our car. it must be understood that there is a whole problem to get there. there it was possible to stumble upon some of these azov people with sufficient ground, and ours, too . good is not enough. yes, jump out to our post here, but i would have said, i - says, forgave, says, this one. well, that is, no, he told me that after the war i would have sat down with this before the subway, i would have had a drink and talked. and i know how vlad was on them. angry, he fled from poltava there in the fourteenth year, he left to fight, everything will be abandoned. i say, have you forgiven them? he says, no, he says, i have not forgiven them. he will not become my friend, not my brother. but it is a worthy enemy. this is the first e, which means that the oncoming

prisoners, who did not pretend to be a cook, did not play up to the signalmen , nor drizzle. i say, well, we still defeated them. and vlad tells me, well, yes, well, it was a difficult victory but about the very fact that you said that they did not look, but defeated, but looked like losers, the question that is now a lot, but it's being discussed, although, well, it's being discussed out of the blue in a way, because we don't know what's going to happen to them next. we all believe that whoever committed the crime will end up in captivity at well will be in court. i understand you correctly that according to your feelings, most of them, if they have it despite the fact that they were deceived, and nobody needs them alive, that if they have the opportunity to take up arms again, they will again take up arms and fight us again or or you know, uh, a staunch nazi, uh, and with a

vitamin supplement, nadya savchenko, remember this one there, supposedly a pilot. yes, i was at her trial. there still had to somehow cross paths to communicate with her in just a couple of months. e, when she was in our prison, and with conversations in the evenings over tea and a cigarette , they were able to put the brain in place. so this fifth to those who have not messed themselves up, she understands that she got up the basics. there's not only half the goats. there were a lot of e rabble parts of the coastal charon. even the ministry of emergency situations, mariupol border detachment, a per detachment e, the remnants of the defeated marines in the 501st brigade. here to them. i don't think there will be many questions. well, these are military combatants who took the oath. by the way, they are the same azov people to me. yes , they seem to be one of the explanations. why did they fight so fiercely against us. they say we took an oath. in our country, for example, for me, yes, here, they took an oath with the same. well, it's

hard to argue with that. yes, but we will have to argue and we will have to convince them. i think there will be time for this, but in taganrog, the pre-trial detention center is still there somewhere donbass is being restored to them, and one of the representatives of our negotiating group, with whom i spoke there informally, is already here. well, sitting right at all on the border of this azov stood there under the pipeline. he said, please, you will write, and don't forget that we started this process, uh, with mercy, because yes, the process began and began with what they began to endure earlier. here are the first groups that came out. i saw that there were wounded and the people who carried the stretcher no longer looked like a negotiating sapper group enough dullness dirty in some t-shirts. and by the way, when one of the azov residents asked him, i said, well, he asked how he was there with cigarettes there, tea, coffee , food. he told me so, i say the internet connection, he told me so diplomatically, well, everyone

has it differently in different bunkers in different ways. that is , you need to understand that someone was sitting there in bestial conditions, and someone felt enough. here. i hope, i hope that now this will be the task of our military investigation agencies. determine who is from which bunker. and who from what the test is stuck together. i have an extreme question for you regarding the meaning, since you are there and, as i understand it, communicate with members of our negotiating group. can you answer this question and do you know that so many of my fellow soldiers ask me this question for people who fought, this is such a sign, why don't they come out with their hands up? why do they surrender without raising their hands, although this is a generally accepted sign, you have an understanding. why is it so? well, the simplest explanation is to go very far from the place where they began on the border of azov in these ruins they drop the armor of weapons and helmets, and before the exit it’s already directly. e to those who meet. yes, they go without control along

the azov-steel fence along the embankment avenue. eh, on the other hand. they have a wide floodplain of the kalmios river there with reeds. there, go a little two kilometers, probably uphill. well, i don't know, maybe, well, i'm well, the only explanation, yes, which i can practically give. i understand you. thank you very much dimitri. it is very very important that you are there, we communicate every day with people who fought they are fighting and will continue to fight and will risk their lives, that you also uttered this word, mercy is very important for our russian culture for our mentality. it is very important. thank you very much for this story for this conversation. we will discuss this further. thank you very much. it was dmitry steshin, special correspondent of komsomolskaya pravda, who, well, told what he sees and what he can feel there on the spot, being next to azot where, insisting on this wording, they surrender, and

azov people and not only azov people, as you have heard now, so the question is where i started after all. this is surrender, this breakdown for that ukraine which still remains. here in this bubble is the idea that they are winning, that they have launched a counteroffensive there. soon they will be in rostov, moscow and so on. what does it mean? you probably follow the local social networks for the local ones, publics and so on, that they know about it, what they think about it. they, unfortunately, are still the whole situation with steel, but are absolutely far from the perception of how this tragedy happened in ukraine, but they caught it kracentrically. there, indeed, everyone says that this is victory, that this is the fulfillment of the order of the commander-in-chief zelensky, who ordered them to surrender and stay alive. and it doesn’t say, not that they surrender , not that they surrender their weapons, not that they

don’t excuse me, they go to be treated and kept in cities that are under the control of the dpr but you know, he knows this they don’t know in ukraine in ukraine everything looks like this paradox it looks like some ukrainians are surrendering, while other ukrainians control them, because both zelensky and e, the deputy minister of defense and all the rest then, in our rivermen. they say that everything is under the control of ukraine, there is ukrainian, the red cross, ukrainian counterintelligence, ukrainian, they are watching ukrainian negotiations. who are watching and it turns out paradox, but he does not go to the ukrainians. some ukrainians surrender, while others allegedly control them and transport them, uh, into captivity to russia, but they do not say that this territory is in the cities new azov elenovka, they even call it

olenevka uh, so that uh as much as possible, splurge . eh, and while i give, while this is all about the ukrainians in the center, this is a lie on a lie is a lie. eh, drive and drive. this stupor, any other deviation is severely cut off up to the persecution. i'm sorry. well, this is where the most difficult question arises, which many people ask, about which many people argue, and in my environment i am sure that in yours and you are with each other. probably argue if we see that the other side of our mercy is not able to appreciate our human relations for whom? why are we doing this? what do we want to achieve with this. and what kind of phenomenon is this? let's continue to talk about it with the guests of the studio right after the advertisement. dad wants to know.

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we continue to work live. i started the program today with the fact that for me personally, despite the importance of news, as news on the current agenda about what is happening around azov in connection with the surrender of their captivity. and why do we meet them there, that we take them away? what are they working with, filtration investigator and so on. in fact, for me, this is a conversation that is much more important, much more difficult about, well, how would our approach to what she declared and declared herself antins, who declared us enemies and headed for our destruction and actually does not hide it and we respond. that's how you know, that is, in fact, here, uh, and therefore, on a specific occasion and in general, there are many disputes about whether it is necessary or not.

so many people say that here we are so fussy, and therefore we seem to be indulging, that if they would trim it a little bit, here, how would it all be under the root. maybe then they stopped jumping less. what do you think about all this? well, what angers us is quite natural. here at this stage connection with what is happening. what happened yesterday these days was happening in mariupol, this, of course, is a lie and the fact that the authorities in ukraine, with the connivance of their western friends, who also show miracles of propaganda in this matter , declares surrender as a prisoner. and he is trying to prove, as they just said, that this is almost some kind of victory. just imagine the year 43 and goebbels says that our heroes are evacuating the sixth army of stalingrad and will save their

lives to continue the struggle. we are all germany happy to the fact that we won this victory and so on, but even death, notice the death, but it didn’t come to that, because mourning was declared throughout germany and oaths of allegiance were sworn there, anything. note. at the same time, the surrendering fighters of the powess army did not set, for example, the conditions not to remove them upon surrender. and these people set conditions not to remove them upon surrender. and we, as far as i know, in general, within some limits, i don’t know when it’s handed over or not, in my opinion, they are filming, judging by the fact that you show the crankcases, but it’s clear that in this story we are between power and the charybdis, that's the question. on the one hand, there is no complete trust in society, at least the participation of society in what, for some reason, the authorities do not want. uh, let's

say exchange prisoners or something to do with it. i explain something that yesterday, for example, at the beginning of the plenary session of one of our deputies. you know, he immediately announced that it was necessary to adopt a law, a decision, a decision, he was supported that criminals should never be returned without a trial of him, and i completely i support the fact that criminals cannot be returned without trial. on the other hand, it is clear that if we abuse, here at this stage, when not everyone has surrendered to mariupol and yet to come . i hope to surrender to very many people in non-morality on our part to tell that kolyma is inevitable for all of them, the death penalty. eh, everything. time to repeat one newly elected faction leader devoted a whole speech to the fact that the death penalty should be restored, and so on. maybe it needs to be restored. only in this case, please

i mean, this whole procedure is going on, and at this moment, to tell you that the horror that we are preparing this for you means to drag out this whole process, and i know for sure that the people who are doing this work with us are asking very much that we didn't abuse these tales of what a terrible thing awaits them. first of all, i don't blame you ; there are enough people to blame in this regard. including among my colleagues, i want to say that we must understand the following, everything that steshin said. now once again indicates that after all, the smell is an element of the essence of the civil war absolutely and the civil war, let me remind you, i saw examples of everything. we have the most ambitious at the beginning of the 20th century and walking through the torments alexei tolstoy wrote, where, on the one hand, first there was then on the other side, and so on, the heroes of this walking through the minds. this is all likely, it is obvious that it was

written 100 years ago that fanatics are murderers rapists and so on beyond any doubt. yes, they can not be given to anyone. they must go through the court, but prove the court even in nuremberg it was a tribunal, although it was obviously clear to everyone. it lasted , let me remind you, for several months, almost a year lasted for all this to be. for documenting, but simply calling for some kind of lynching and indiscriminate indiscriminate there. uh, punishing everyone, regardless of whether it is personal guilt, proven, it is not proven. it means to stand on the same level, what you were talking about on the same board with those who oppose us and the crime, oh, whom we are exposing today , this is important to understand. i think in connection with everything that happens and the last thing i have to say, of course, this

should not continue indefinitely when we, uh, take prisoners. and they tell us that we don’t take anyone, on the contrary, i’ll remind you that even during the great patriotic war, our high command stalin had to lead prisoners through the center of moscow for t- why did he do this in order to show that they are these captured, so that they are not destroyed in the first place. secondly, they are there and they are not walking here with their hands up, but they are walking all over the place. garden ring, and they don’t expect us to be sure. it all depends on how the other side behaves, but in the end, i don’t exclude at all that sooner or later the prisoners, including those who will now have to be held along center, donetsk or the center of luhansk where they were captured, this is not on our territory now, it is on the territory of the donetsk people's republic and judge them. by the way, speaking, they must also, according to the laws of the non -russian federation of the donetsk people's republic

, where it is located, the city of mariupol. in fact two interesting paradoxes for me are that you said a very bright paradox e that we really are in an information society when there is the internet, when everything is filmed, when cameras are everywhere, but now to prove the fact of surrender, and thousands of enemy soldiers, with all these cameras, the internet and so on is more difficult than it was during the great patriotic war, when there was no internet and that's it. it was impossible to shoot and immediately transfer this photo in germany. this indicates how much this world of fakes, as far as he is at all, that's how much ukraine is in the first place, because it seems to me that she has set another record in order to imagine the surrender of a prisoner of military defeat. it's not just like, well , it's not that scary. and how, and how a victory, it seems to me that this is for those who are alluring with us, who believe what the ukrainian propaganda says is another reason to make sure the

difference between the reality interpretation agrees , too, a very good addition, that really it’s the same, indeed, this is our own think that people even in this situation managed. not just, as any side would do, let's be honest, but to somehow belittle, well, the extent of the defeat. no, it's completely sincere. well, that is, like this with the full program of the world. they are the translation. here is the correct word, that is, the level that this parallel world is so parallel. although it would seem that everything can be removed. right now you can shoot this piece of the studio and in a second it will be in america, everything can be checked, but nevertheless. well, uh, i don't even know if it's worth it now to show these examples of zelensky, this is the most painter, as they say it doesn’t matter, but there is, here is the second very important point, and we will now visually reflect it. so let's remove the map of mariupol and return to the map of ukraine from the map of hostilities. oh, because the second thing is the most important thing that our viewers need to understand, which many justified, so to speak,

well, param. so, that's what we are soaring why are we back and forth with them, because here it is still very a lot of things have to be done by our guys and what is being done near mariupol with the azov people. here , i think, they no longer live in such a parallel world as in kiev. i think, here, everything is here in these boilers or the floor, boilers, everyone knows everything and is closely watching it. therefore, what is being done now there is a question of how it will move here, and it is a question of how many of our soldiers will not be killed by those ukrainian soldiers who surrender, realizing, following the example of mariupol, that this is possible? here it is the most important story, and the work, as i understand it, is still hoo. well, in fact, of course, now it is already brewing, but a new boiler. it has actually already been created. or rather, not even a new boiler, but a new delivery, this

solution to the situation with severodonetsk will take place in the near future. and now, since when they took it dangerously, uh, which blocked the main supply road or now, lisichansk is a city that just hangs over severodonetsk and helped protect just this agglomeration. uh, fate is sealed here. and there, well, according to the minimum estimates of 14.000. many say that even up to 20.000 uh-huh a vsu and national battalions. basically, you sum, of course, and it is natural that they evaluate the situation that is happening in mariupol. yes, they see it. that's from what they were talking about when they were told that they were evacuating somewhere, but these are from mariupol and people, uh, unclear, not obvious situation. you know, i would say so, in fact , but this may even be a good thing. in the sense that it will be much easier for them to make a decision to surrender. they will also think that we are not evacuating somewhere either, of course, under their white hands the fighters of the luhansk people's militia are leading to the meaning of the

russian federation and the chechen units, but they will think that we will be evacuated somewhere. let's maybe your story will no longer be, maybe not. this is not the point, but here, and this is brewing one, but a cauldron, and the second, of course, avdiivka, you need to understand that avdiivka is a place where they are rushing with their last strength. uh, guys from the dpr i know i myself was a witness, and the events around this hmm uh, well, not gorodok, but let's say the agglomeration sands of krasnogorovka avdeevka and up to a kramatorsk and e, slavyansk there are the main artillery positions that destroy the esinovataya. yes, the fifteenth, in my opinion, the artillery brigade and so on. here they are. naturally, but the offensive impulse of the guys and the people's militia of the dpr, of course, was initially very strong and put a lot of guys down. well, it was in the beginning, then it stopped. now they are just

clamped down, i know. they are already in the sands, when they approached in the kovdeevka. this will be stronger than mariupol, because when we will demolish this artillery position, then for the first time in donetsk, people will fall asleep without cannonade in gorlovka makeevka. and what it will be, but in fact an emotional moment for them, because everyone who was there, well, it’s impossible, of course, at night for a long time from the end and the fact that during the day you don’t notice, because you work and so on. yes, it shoots shoots, but at night canada and so on people live with it. and when it happens. here it will be. look, mariupol is, of course, the greatest political victory that no matter how they hide, it is a victory that is already being considered, they know that they are surrendering and they know that people are surrendering, who will judge, at least some, because it is clear that they are guilty of war crimes, but a military victory, and with the next this is severodonetsk, this is already like

would end the grouping of the circuit, but take avdiivka as well. this is a complete collapse. here, in this situation, and, in general, the defeat of the main position, and then, by and large , they still have subsidiaries, this is izyumskaya . look, look, right. you said of course here they are, and then the rate is again on each city as a node of resistance, each city taught resistance, but this cannot last long. we even know that i know that in the dnieper, for example, there is a very serious, as if attitude to what is happening local elites, they don’t want to be turned into a fortified area at all, and they can do it at all, because they don’t want to turn into what azov turned marium into. that's it. yes, yes, and in odessa, too, this situation is again, so in truth, this is the situation. well, in general, i would say that there is ekaterina slav if initially. well, let's finish the job, and then we will decide

ekaterina slave, dnepropetrovsk is there. well, yes, actually, that's an interesting detail. you said about this cannonade and everything, uh, these are the nuances that, of course, they are not felt. mm, in moscow, it's not even about the cannonade. i have one person. so, when this one was recently, he told me such a thing, i did n’t even understand right away, he told me. we say that a generation has grown up in donetsk that has not met flourishes. i say, as i say, that you don't meet here, curfew curfew , that is, because it's all prefrontal all the time, that is, you can imagine people. well, they don’t know at all what it is there in the morning there at 4 o’clock. that's how young people go there at 4-5 to go meet the dawn, curfew. this is to the question of, here you say, a rush in donetsk and

there and lugansk is what they want. this is this, this is my last question for you about the ukrainian society, and so on, that coat passed constantinet. fedorovich said that it really infuriates. it's annoying. you can do as much as you want. if to speak? yes, they are sick. yes, they are zombies. yes, they are here and there, but nonetheless. and where is the turning point to this parallel world. which is broadcast from here, and broadcast here from there, so that changes to reality begin in it. for this, what is needed for this, you need to get somewhere, or or when it starts, here are the feathers, in short, they ask like this, where do you think we need to go, so that in this parallel world it has already become impossible. it 's hide. it's very hard for me to say where to go. it would be better to liberate all of ukraine, but this is impossible and the first condition is unambiguously unambiguous. you correctly said mercy - this is the only correct terrible heavy, and most importantly, costly material and human resources. but this is the

only correct way, which can, even to the most stubborn, the most stubborn, but who has not lost something human in himself, prove that this is an operation. not occupation, not aggression, but liberation and excuse me rescue. this is the first moment. and, of course, of course, they will sprinkle. eh, definitely. since the azov people also fell down, when they start, uh, these long-awaited long -prepared victories, uh, victories in these boilers in these environments, when and when there will be no that, and what they said that the russians came to kill you all to drive to rot this will not turn the enemy. and then. as a matter of fact, the more. russia will have victories, the more bugbears there will be. uh, for everyone else, there's resistance right now. at basically useless. uh, there's nothing wrong with surrendering in evacuation. uh, the russians are here, don’t spread rot,

don’t kill, and everything will be fine, and then enlightenment will come hard for 30 years. impossible fascism was slaughtered there ; uh, even in kherson they say that high degrees about ukrainianness remain, but already there are not enough for machine guns ; in fact, yes, and he keeps on holding on to the instinct of self-preservation. i repeat. uh, mercy and russian victories will turn on the instinct of self-preservation. and this is the most important thing for insight. soon i wanted to say that a few hours ago i met with the head of the administration of the temporary administration of raisins , vladislav sokolov, who escaped to moscow for the day, sokolov, you know, he came to solve a lot of problems. there is no

gas, no light, no water, heavy heat on the eve of future months, issues need to be resolved, but he came in order to decide how to help the schools run faster, because the schools in the city of raisins, raisins is under attack at the moment. they don’t even ask them to install glasses, because they still have these glasses , a film will fly out and close it all, but the people there are determined by those who stayed to live there, they are determined that we must continue to live and we need to understand what the city of izyum is the city of izyum, in which there were three enterprises under soviet rule , and in fact there was one left in which she worked before 10,000, and under the ukrainian government 1,500 people instrument-making plant. this is a city from which everyone left to work during the ukrainian time. they understand that the ukraine of additional operations is not able to maintain its own territory. they link their future with russia and. by the way,

this is a question about, but about the fact that ukraine is not, so to speak, unable to maintain its territory. another very important addition, which shows the complexity of everything that happens here and this parallel world, and in donetsk now there are very big problems with water. why in donetsk there are very big problems with water, because water supply. yes, the supply was organized in such a way that the water went from about here and to mariupol too, that is, roughly speaking, the water supply went through donetsk to mariupol , and while mariupol was ukrainian, they were forced to give water to donetsk as soon as mariupol became non- ukrainian people, who live there and who stayed there ceased to interest them. although it seems to get that you never, as soon as mariupol ours is covered. here, accordingly, there is no water, and here there is water. no, there, here, the city of izyum, gas comes from kramatorsk. and since kramators are still under

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will show we continue to work live and discuss live. as a matter of fact, what is happening in the camp of those, as it were, those big world forces, well, which, in general, contributed to what happened, what happened to ukraine and this whole conflict, which is beneficial and necessary for them and which actually does not calm down and here is the news recent days that finland, sweden, have embarked on this dangerous path of joining nato, as idea, it should have been clear after february 24 that this is a dangerous path? enter to expand to the east, but nonetheless applications they, er, transferred to the secretary general of nato and the secretary general. nato jens, stoltenberg radiates some kind of optimism, so to speak. truth. give me back this photo. i don't know

maybe representatives always have such a facial expression, but somehow he seems to have mixed feelings. yes, and the swede is also not that somehow radiantly happy. that is, yes, they have. yes, that is here is such a dragging that this one, as it were, well, i did. this, i make stand. such, what will be. what are you going to where we where, what have i done? where am i at all where am i putting such a jaw clench? well, i don’t know, maybe he always has an expression that feels like he lived in ak so seriously. yes, especially since not only have they embarked on such an incomprehensible, as it were, very dumb path , even now they will have to listen to a lot of things from erdogan, who do not know to what extent he believes in what he says about what type, guys don’t even be offended, don’t dream of any nato you don’t know about nefin, you can’t see it, because you supported those who don’t need to be supported and just, as you forget. yes, it’s funny in general, but i don’t know, i think that erdogan, of course, also solves some of his own issues, that in general it’s

normal in politics to resolve their issues from something in exchange for something, because erdogan understands who -for some reason, it is necessary that the finns and swedes be in nato, which means you can bargain for something. here it is now, another party. eh, that means the erdogan administration once again said sweden will not be able to join nato until turkey's just concerns are resolved, i think that the first part should be read here sweden will not be able to join until , which erdogan addresses, not sweden or finland, i think, the capital of some completely different, uh, states. well actually. eh, this is it. uh, how yes the claims of the turks. but, actually, i'm interested. it's not even an attitude situation. i am not interested in turkey and even turkey's trade over finland sweden in nato, i am not interested in another issue that is more relevant for us, because about sweden's accession of finland a to nato and the prospects for this and our reaction. the president

says calmly enough. let's as regards the expansion of the north atlantic alliance yes, this is a problem that is being created in my opinion, it is completely artificial, since this is done in the interests of the external and foreign policy interests of the united states in general it is necessary use as a tool of foreign policy, in fact. e, on the one hand, but it is done quite persistently skillfully and will give, and very aggressively, this aggravates everything that is already difficult. eh, the international security situation, with regard to expansion, including through the new members of the finnish alliance, sweden in russia would like to inform you dear colleagues. there are no problems with these states, and therefore, in this sense, there is no immediate threat for us to expand at the expense of these countries for russia. creates, but the expansion of military infrastructure into

this territory will certainly provoke our response . and what it will be we will look at, based on the threats that will be created for us, that is, in general, the problem is created from scratch. this is where my first question arises. well, it’s not that the question is some kind of misunderstanding that and in the case of ukraine, we even considered the prospect of some kind of conversation about the fact that something, somewhere, they would take it somewhere, knowingly considered threats to our interests, and in the case of sweden finland takes a slightly different approach. we say that, in principle, we have no particular problems with them. and if there is an infrastructure, then we will think that there are somewhat different approaches, and in this sense , speaking, uh, well, either somewhat different or fundamentally different. and now, by the way, i just noticed that finally, on this map, the lpr e dpr is painted over with the right color. although i think green would be correct. well , it's not for me to decide. eh, let's not get ahead of ourselves. or maybe there is green, more

after some time, yes it will appear, why waste paint in vain , so that later everything can be painted over with green, as it should be, and the question is about ukraine, about which we said that, in principle, we are not ready to discuss the issue of that it will even theoretically be someday. this is because it is a threat to us and, in general, when they did not hear us and made us understand that no one is interested in our positions. we launched a special military operation, including e, in connection with this, and now the question arises. we must understand that no matter where we go in special military operation, he doesn’t want to say offensive words, so i’ll politely say a stub, and which will remain e and the rest, which will remain in a completely obvious way in nato , this is where we are discussing. that's where erdogan is bargaining, puts forward some demands. something about some kind of consensus conversation is clear that in the case of any ukraine in any form, this can be resolved very quickly, given that even now this is, so to speak, this is a country or i don’t

know what to call it. well here's the news on how uh minister of foreign affairs of ukraine well, he yelled, as they write about the minister of defense of germany, she is very revealing. let me remind you, please. the head of the ukrainian foreign ministry lost patience in a conversation with kristen lambrecht, as reported in kiev, a sharp conversation took place between kuleba and lambrecht, kuleba came to germany and in a personal conversation. he asked in lambria to give an honest answer regarding the supply of the promised tanks, cheetah, kulib, asked germany to supply the missing ammunition as soon as possible or to admit that the topic was removed from the agenda, and so and here it arises question. or rather, not even a question. he is rhetorical. i understand perfectly well, what kind of sherkhan is this, then the jackal gave tobacco, eh? a go-ahead that he can talk to german ministers like that. i understand perfectly why it's not completely true? why do the german ministers put up with this? for me, this is just an

indicator that it is quite obvious that this regime of complete favor for any remaining part of ukraine will exist and it will be in nato and will not be, because membership or misfortune. in general, this is a formal question. we are you have already noted that in independence, ukraine was a member of nato until february 24, it was not a member. and what's more, everyone said it and it won't be what we need coming mid- term. well, above it was in ukraine all this time, so in this case, which you are talking about in the future, nato will be in ukraine, but ukraine itself will not, because why should they bind themselves with obligations, they will need to incite this remnant ukraine so that they want to become whole, but look not to take on obligations really. and you figured me out faster than i expected, well, you can't drink away skill. yes, my question was not about the fact that nato membership is not nato membership, we understand that

in the light of what has already happened and in the light of what kind of policy, how the west would start we understand perfectly well that no matter what piece remains limit themselves in what weapons they are what weapons they will place there will not be anything regardless of they, that is, you understand, those conventions that we talked about, except for nuclear weapons, except perhaps up to some point of nuclear weapons, and it turns out an interesting moment. what is what we formally. at least it looks like it. so something from which we tried to protect ourselves and warn what to do? this is not necessary. now, with an even greater guarantee, it will be made on some remaining piece. no, you see, we've been faced with the fact that for eight years, we've been trying to convince. and in this respect we counted on the understanding of other participants in the normandy format of the european states of germany france that they understand the danger that this issue , uh, will not be resolved by peaceful negotiations on the basis of the agreements that they themselves

signed, but as it turned out, vaska listened and ate, and in this case, germany and france simply. well , maybe they were not the initiators to such an extent, but they calmly watched or, at least, looked subserviently at how the americans and all the other british continue to excite ukraine and plan to plan what it will be used for. as a weapon against russia in every way case, no one said stop to ukraine, the minsk agreements cannot be neglected. why did we act this way in the case of ukraine because ukraine is part of our world, whether it wants it or not. for many centuries it was part of our country, finland yes, it was also part of the russian empire for 100 years, but this cannot be compared from any point of view with the stay of ukraine or what was called the mentality and language and culture - these are correctly different stories, what concerns. excuse me, the last thing i want to say is that concerns the understanding that no matter what happens,

if something remains under zelensky’s feet, some kind of land, this land will be nazified, militarized and will be completely under control. there is no doubt in the west for sure, since there should be no doubt that although finland and sweden were not members of nato but it was part of the western bloc, i see. that's all. and now they formally become members of nato, but at the same time they were, as they were, and they are western, in fact, nikita sergeevich i, uh, this rhetoric there, nato does not need to be salty, absolutely right, in general, membership in nato is not membership in nato, especially now after february 24th. this is all already such a conditional matter. here, after all, the question is, why many people ask this question, that we have this whole story here. once upon a time, reda could potentially, perhaps, begin to pose some kind of threat to us, because there are so many and so many flights from kharkov to moscow. we're now guaranteed to get a story when some piece of this is left, if it's left, it 's going to be extremely militarized. extremely saturated

all this and, in fact, what guarantees us that he will someday cease to be a threat to us. i do not really understand, as well as those who ask me this question. well, if i'm not mistaken, uh, on the twenty-fourth, our president said that the goals of the special military operation are the dementalization of the identification of all of ukraine and no matter what piece remains there, if it is called ukraine. it is subject to the same, at least detail . it's 100%. based on this. let's imagine a situation where indeed, well, the border of ukraine is changing somewhere, uh, as far west as possible, but there remains some kind of stronghold of ukrainian statehood, what is happening there already now, you can see how to this future. it refers within nato, literally today a washington post article was published, which says that already now the process of pumping up the countries of eastern europe and the military contingents is very much concerned about the expansion of the infrastructure war in france and italy and you won’t believe,

even these germans, who are not being deployed now, neither what are the ukrainians into? based on this, again, yes, let's imagine that, all of a sudden, this, the remaining piece, becomes a member of the alliance. and then, just on its territory, i completely agree in this regard. by the way, i don’t agree with one more thing, then this territory could potentially become a place for deploying nuclear weapons. i’ll explain why, because most recently a is the commander-in-chief of the joint forces. and nato well , actually an american general, but announced that he would give, the fundamental pact of the ninety-seventh year exists, but we will no longer refer to it , proceeding from this. you are a member. by the way this is very important and finland and sweden well they run. here is something there in ukraine that can become the very springboard for deploying nuclear weapons. and this is in my opinion. if you carefully look at our, uh, national security doctrine, there is military and

so on, it is unthinkable. based on this, i can say what will be, uh, what kind of answer is the toughest and most likely again of a military-technical nature, as for sweden, finland too very important point. why did the president say that we have normal relations with them, as long as this threat does not pose the whole thing is in potential. at the moment, yes, sweden and finland are countries that have been mastered by nato; there are nato structures there. they conducted various military exercises in cyberspace. at sea, even infantry. there their joint participated periodically, but we are our intelligence, glory. god works great. yes, and we are well aware that the current potential of sweden and finland, if it does not change, but they if there will be countries of the north american alliance, it does not pose a critical threat, but the expansion of military infrastructure, and even more so the deployment of nuclear weapons, which, in my opinion, is quite logical and actually westerners themselves, and do not hesitate to voice it unacceptably for us, the

answer will again be quite tough and of course in the plane of a military-technical nature. but uh, i think the fundamental point is how soon and at what stage. the special military operation will be successfully completed. here, on my opinion. this is the architecture of the alliance's further expansion of the threat alliance's military infrastructure. after all. frankly, the missiles aimed at our country directly depend on how this is a special military operation. after the natural task all will be solved. as a result, uh, it will leave what it will leave ukraine. this will be a fundamental moment. i just want to remind you that until recently, when there were still talks about the so-called peace, about some kind of process. yes, there was a negotiation process, there after all talked about the guarantees of international guarantees, including from the united states and europe and china and so on. and that the main condition for the existence of ukraine as such well, at least within the framework of that

negotiation process there was a bloc-free status, therefore, in my opinion, if something remains there, i am deeply convinced of this, it will remain . without blocks and a hundred. if not, then in fact, the scenario that all these conversations are block status, no block status, all this is all already everything is already such a verbal caliber of the past , listen, we have, uh, ministers of the british deputy minister are discussing today, who could have thought about this six months ago, when the british deputy minister of defense talks about the fact that, in principle, we can supply systems to the ukrainians, and from which, in principle, they can strike and we will not be participants in the territory of russia. well type as though let long. and if the president of the united states says that we are supplying e ukraine more and more and more weapons that kill putin's soldiers and so on and so forth . now our hummingbirds are beating lvov, they are beating western ukraine . why, in this case, is this a scenario in

which we perceive any presence of a military contingent of foreign deployment of training bases there, we perceive it as a threat to our national security, we immediately answer, and the same will happen if this piece remains, they will not have time enter until like there's nothing left. now you have answered. now you have answered. well, at least they formally answered my question, what, in your idea of ​​the future, uh, the future of the architecture of this world, ukraine will be the territory on which we reserve, as it were, the right to strike, then and where we think that the determination of those who will be in power in ukraine will be restored. by that time, it will be zelensky or it will be someone else. it will depend on how it ends right a special military operation, how and when it ends not directly, but partly depends on what happens, but how

strong the economic component is, and how successful we can resist the economic pressure on us, because in general, wars, as we all know conducted not for free modern warriors are conducted not for free and here. this is the economic component of the conversation about what is with gas. what is with oil, what with these embargoes, what with these endless packages, it has a very large meaning. i'm here, to be honest, i'm at a loss, because on the one hand bloomberg writes that it seems like the eu approved the schemes. e payment scheme for gas from the russian federation on the other hand. they tell their companies that they do not recommend using gas payment schemes. e from rubles, which means that the european union is preparing about this too, well, it also declares quite serious buildings that there is a certain political document that should be adopted this wednesday, the european commission calls on member countries to prepare for a complete cessation russian gas supplies. and the one that you can now sort of buy for rubles, that is, they obviously have some sort of step forward, two steps

back. this is seen not only in this. i'm not talking about the fact that e has lithuania calls to stop the transit of gases and oil from russia through ukraine and what also suggests that there may be some? these are words, maybe this is some kind of insane rhetoric, and so on, moreover? this is what is being said . i don’t know about this inconsistency or some kind, i don’t understand what it’s not only about energy carriers. this is about the same wheat, uh, that let's help ukraine get wheat out of its storage, because they need to put new crops in there, despite the fact that everyone understands that wheat prices have already risen very evenly, because everyone understands what's not clear. will there be a new ukrainian harvest, but, apparently, there will be no new ukrainian harvest in the ukrainian territories, because the sowing campaign failed. at the same time, let's take it out from there, that is, obviously in the economic sense konstantin vasilyevich a, or this is some kind of very tricky game, then decipher it, or this is already some kind of completely confusion and vacillation, please. well , we understand that the overall picture is quite

clear in the european union, there are two big camps. the first camp says that there is certainly a priority task. uh, for the sake of fulfillment, which is not even worth discussing everything else, including the economy, but this task is understandable e support at any cost for ukraine and the defeat of russia in every sense. here in this conflict, respectively. uh, this logic is the most frankly holds say great britain poland a and actually. they set this line, that no arguments on the topic of economic consequences for the european union are accepted now, because once again, i repeat, there is an obvious political task and that's it. the rest must be sacrificed, because, well, such patriotic talk on the topic of value continues to be put there. we uh-huh do not change the economy, respectively. we’ll pull the belts and don’t change for food either, which means we

’ll lower the temperature in the houses, nothing there extra bun. well, in this logic, that is, it seems to them that the blow to the economy will not be destructive, that is, they consider it. it 's like, well, a necessary reduction in consumption, but according to their version of russia, er, it will break faster. uh-huh, and the second group of countries. of course, this is not publicly declared, but we can include here the main western economies of the european continent. i mean both germany and france. despite italy and austria, despite political rhetoric, but representatives of these states. they are fine they understand how severe the economic consequences can be, and the business of these countries is well aware, because in fact this business is the locomotive of the european union is not that the main sponsor, let's say, well, the main

country that pays the main contributions to the european union is germany and the main the country that receives money from the european union is poland and, uh, these statistics are long-term and in this regard, of course, the state that the european union finances is the main economy, but they have it in their heads. uh, how severe will these consequences be. and now to the question of gas, because right now, at the end of may , such an important moment comes, it is connected with that. uh , right now in the main western european companies, the payment period for the last month is coming. and they must either switch to this scheme, or not switch with the prospect of cutting off supplies, respectively. by the way, finland and a finnish company today declared that it would not switch to russian. in doing so, we see that the main campaigns of germany italy austria are already

neatly stating. well, they cannot directly say that they accepted it, but they are already saying that they are considering the option of opening an account with two shields in gazprombank. uh, we understand that it will still be public at the end of may, what are they paying? e for gas in rubles and actually. they ask from the european commission. at least at this stage to confirm that this does not fall under the sanctions of the european commission. she, too, she tries, how would u save space, then for anyone conclusion that it does not seem to forbid. what if they didn’t allow it, but i repeat once again, there is a specific date when each company, uh, will have to pay for gas. this date will come at the end of may and now. um, if you go to the website of the european commission, there are old clarifications hanging there, which are very vague, but you really said it right, eh. over the weekend, the american agency bloomberg

wrote that, after all, the european commission notifies the company that, in principle, so far, at this stage, it, let's say, allows it. uh, participation in this scheme and if a number of conditions are met there, but they are met, they easily comply, because we understand, it is simply a matter of wanting to say that this is violated, the sanction does not violate, because we can say that no, it does not violate, because companies transfer euros to gazprombank about kama many times, with whom they discussed themselves in circles do not touch central banks. the cases do not have the conversion taken over by gazprombank, that is, they can say that they still pay in euros, technically say they were evacuated technically say, and most importantly, that the european commission pretend that this is the way it is. that's actually and all. and here is the fight between. well, at least some kind of economic rationality and such completely political madness, but it continues. it will continue the sixth package of sanctions on the subject of oil - this is part of that. some

states openly say, well, we know there, for example, hungary is already textbook that we can not fulfill your conditions. give us a special period, there and or a even better. give a period and pay. yes, and they started with 700 million. now it’s already 15 billion. well, this is also a normal story, what you are talking about surprisingly correlates with what we started talking about, that it is clearer and brighter that there are two parallel worlds. one world of some, so to speak, ideology and pure politics that does not intersect with reality another world of reality that somehow tries to survive and they intersect less and less, but at one point they all go away and will never pass by this point and at this point advertising on channel one. from vanga's prophecy premiered on sunday at pervy gather your image on ozon pay lafrika from 2.99

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parallel realities that show that the world has come to some strange, this is the state. there are more and more of them. here 's another example for you a few days ago, a palestinian journalist was killed in the line of duty. she was filming was reporting. uh, she was killed by a sniper. but i don’t know, but they write in the media that this sniper was israeli and that he shot at her realizing who she is and what she does, but that’s not the point. the fact is that the woman was taken to the hospital. tried to save her , they couldn't save her. she died, which, regardless of who killed her and for what reasons, is a human tragedy. moreover, the journalist was fulfilling her duty and it would seem that she is always in the world when journalists who are doing their job are killed. journalistic duty. but it's like some kind of scandal or what it is not, but not about that either. whatever it was, i know a little about her. i can’t

say who killed her and why, but the fact that i want to say is glaring. in my opinion, it lies elsewhere. it lies in what happened during the funeral of this woman during the funeral of this woman who was a journalist and who had no claims. she worked during this funeral, israeli law enforcement agencies, i don’t know, guided by what they arranged what they arranged during the funeral. they beat the legs of the people who were carrying this coffin with clubs. quite obviously, they were trying to get the people who were carrying this coffin to drop it. at the same time, you see that i do n’t know anything about these last forces, i admit that the israeli security forces have some reason. you understand some kind of feelings towards them. here are unfriendly feelings, but this is a funeral and this is a coffin and this is in front of the eyes of the whole world they are beating people. who are just carrying a coffin. do you think it caused any, in general, harm reaction in the world

, it is no for a minute. if anyone does not know, she was a catholic, you can see the cross there, they carry the cross, you can see it. they are burying a catholic. the pope well, this is his pastor, who should have something about this , well, call no, the pope. not what he is busy with other business the pope of rome meets with lean faces of wives. eh, the nazis and the call of the very ones who zigged and did not hide it, he is busy with this, and the fact that until recently, well, in a relatively normal world. would call the indignation of all, and regardless of how one treats the palestinians, it does not matter to the israelis, because this cannot be. now it’s not up to everyone to drag everyone into some kind of this funnel , these zigging aunts, and even the pope was dragged there, but these blatant things don’t cause anyone across the ocean. same story in buffalo this same nazi killed quite a lot of people, which means big enough

just killed a lot of blacks this man who openly published himself here with this symbolism with exactly the same symbolism, which we observe attention to the issue of the burnt zigging on the form. the same nazis and calling here it is, that's what they call. find 10 differences, but about azov, the entire progressive world and baidan. chikengr shift 2 years ago recognized this is a neo-nazi organization and the pope, who calls on these, it means aunts about azov, are all convulsing. what do biden say about this nazi, listen to him. white supremacy is poison it is poison it really is eat. penetrating into our political body, he was allowed to fester and grow right before our eyes. we must state as clearly and forcefully as possible that white supremacy has no

place in america. and our failure to say this will be complicity silence is complicity, we cannot be silent. here it is. here is the answer to the question. why the world has become even more abnormal than it was, because what is happening in america is a fester, which is in america and the superiority of the whites, which in america they cannot be silent. they are you must do it because it is because, but when somewhere, when somewhere azov, when somewhere the nazis kill and talk about, but about their superiority. it does not matter. this is different and that's it . it is this example that is not relevant. so to the current current politics, it is the answer to the question about all those parallel worlds and duality, about which we spoke today, whether it be politics or war. whether it's the economy, when one country decides that what it needs

is one thing, and everything else. it's different in this and there is a lot of substance. the world's big game, which the leading guests of the big game program on channel one will now discuss, i say goodbye to you. till tomorrow. good evening, the information channel on the first live continues the big game e, today brought a lot of good news from the theater of the special military operation , many targets were hit. a significant part of the infrastructure of the kiev regime was destroyed on the entire territory of ukraine on azov, the release of prisoners of war continued, we do not know the exact we will learn about the number of those who came out today about this

tomorrow, but we know for sure that at last yesterday e 959 surrendered. e, military personnel or representatives of bant formations that were hiding on azov stood up. president zelensky was noted at this time, first of all, with his speech at the opening of the cannes film festival. under applause his dream came true, he became unconditionally the groom at every wedding. e of the western world. and, of course, the deceased at all funerals, including, of course, the funerals of the ukrainian armed forces, uh, on a number of directions of a special military operation, and in the united states of america e. senate today. uh, vote for $40 billion in military economic aid to ukraine will

vote. moreover, on the sidelines of both congress and the white house, they openly say that the united states is waging war against russia, that the goal of this war against russia is a military victory and they will not spare any funds for this and also called the amounts that surpass imagination. whoever it is, but this. we'll talk a little later, but now let's talk about what happened on earth in those places where the fate of not only a special military operation, but, i'm not afraid to say, the fate of all mankind is now being decided. and the hero of the donetsk people's republic is in touch with us, the commander of the legendary tag ocher, ruslanychba good

evening. good evening. well? what's the news today? well, let's start with azov steel, what is happening there now? what are the moods of our guys? what do you know about the mood of that side? let's let's start with this. we didn't take pictures with certain t-shirts. there was a kind of slogan about azov. we decided to change it now instead of there. azov that regretted azov will, because from our side we see those who come out, these are not even eagles. this is when a parrot is stressed, he plucks your feathers. here he looks a little awkward. this is what absurd wars are going to carry each other, it's a pity, a spectacle. it feels like that's where they came from the concentration camp from some of their defensive fortifications, so we sincerely say that there is no malice that,

probably, should have formed in our heads or we imagined how we would react to them after falling into our hands, these people want to quickly fatten. and so that they acquire at least some form, because, well, you can’t even talk to them. it’s humiliating, well, it’s realistic to say that they evoke some feelings of pity, not in any way for the enemy, they have some kind of appearance that is not very combative. well, today they went out actively. they got up from this, they come out in portions, they come out. uh, i don’t understand what they are doing now so that it doesn’t make it difficult for us, but now a mass of crowds will come out. they don’t want us to have traffic jams in the republic, so they quietly come out in portions and they are greeted, everything is going slowly. well, really, there’s

definitely no need to rush here . losses from our country were not easy through the blockade assault. uh, they forced them to surrender to capitulate, so that they wouldn’t say there, no matter how they were rescued by various kinds the secret of the secretary general of the united nations, uh, european leaders or the pope of rome, no one will help them, except for now russian doctors and our military personnel who fatten them up, as the commander of the tag rightly said . you yourself are now in donetsk and you are making mistakes and you yourself, rather, uh, act in the avdiivka direction, what happened there today . avdiivka direction, but gaining momentum, our rats are growing. and, well, this is forcing the enemy, because they have become more frequent, you see,

comrades so cloistered that they began to beat her even more in the cities. therefore, in order to secure cities, we are forced to take some measures, and these measures are effective. yes, and in addition, the guys who showed their fighting spirit to mariupol, they returned instead of their previous locations, and so donetsk, so now they will show. eh, how it was not bad, i live, now there will be a demonstration of them. uh, the glorified 25th brigade, not there, but the right sector in the yeysk direction, so they will find out how sad it was for those. so our units got rid of stopping the azov and there the marines in azov stopped, and now they are going up here. i see. and how would you rate the mood of the opposing side of the ukrainian armed forces

that you are facing. uh, how motivated they are now, how well they are supplied. there is no this motivation, there is no supply and they have, uh, let's say that when the last well, our subdivision of captive eyebrows. it's these guys that haven't changed in over two weeks, and i don't know how much they haven't changed yet. that we them rotation they made them, and they took them to us and took the guys to rest in the pre-trial detention center, therefore, to say that they have a fighting spirit there, i won’t say no, they don’t have such a thing. there is no mood, how they try to raise and tell that they are capable of something. there are those people who are capable of something, those who were already in the millstones of rewinding, there are those who are still being led to some kind of propaganda, but they themselves do not believe in it. uh, what they don’t have, as it were, they told for cyborgs in a

fairy tale, something else azov couldn’t get out, they couldn’t get out with any red cross the pope of rome did not help them with international ones, only vladimir vladimirovich made them so that they went to publish alive, so for them today the pope is our supreme commander-in-chief , they should thank. and no matter what the term and i fell out, but they do not feed the worms. well , really now they can only rely on our armed forces and our command. e, say a. here is the vaunted western weapon, it has already appeared there in those parts that oppose you. and how seriously can it change the situation at the front. we had the anniversary of the kingdom of

heaven on the seventeenth. we like, therefore, from some types of weapons. we, probably, purely only for museums, as if refused, therefore, and why complicate the procedure for delivering it to us there through ukraine is something else directly, guys here, take them to say that it is effective, that the distance is beaten. they are there 40 km, 60, well, you understand perfectly well what difference it makes to us if it arrives after 15 km or after 30 we are ready for this. understandable well, it was ocher avetsba, uh, commander, the legendary tag. e hero of the donetsk people's republic , we wish you, of course, victory and take care of yourself. eh, well, how else can victory be ours? we do

n't doubt it at all. i think ivan pavlovich has no doubts either. there's no doubt but you know nevertheless. as for today specifically, of course, the battalion commander told everything correctly. e, mariupol the victory is political, i understand, i am sure that the mariupol mariupol situation will be given an assessment and a in various european structures. despite what they would like to do, they did not want to do it, but it will be , i know that in the un ah. this situation is being discussed. i understand that this is the kansk festival where it was presented. eh, mr. zelensky, but for him now he has overshadowed everything, and, as a matter of fact, he does not obviously inadequately evaluate everything else everything that happens on the fronts. ah well actually. the situation is what the commander of the tag was talking about

. obviously, again, the main concentration of efforts still takes place around avdiivka, because, well, it is necessary that, uh , people in donetsk begin to fall asleep not under the cannonade, and this will just happen, if in mariupol this is a political victory, and a very strong victory that testifies to the whole world that russia , firstly, acts nobly and mercifully towards its opponents and by the way, the troops dpr and the second is that these opponents are not cyborgs and uh, not super wars, but soldiers as soldiers and moreover, uh many of them are just wars criminals and their actions will be assessed. but the donetsk direction and avdeevka sands. i know what's in the sand. oh, semyon, by the way, yesterday we had a program here. he says that they entered in the sand. eh, this is wonderful new news,

you know exactly this, this is donetsk and just a few kilometers away. uh, a sandy village, from where artillery fire is carried out near donetsk and other cities along gorlovka, along makiivka, along yesenovata, they went there, this is great news . this, of course, uh, will have a serious impact not on fighting spirit, but on the fact that for 8 years 8 years, people have been waiting for when it will stop, well, it will stop. uh, this is really one of the hot spots of the special military operation, but now the hot spots are everywhere and, uh, severodonetsk or lisichansk in the vicinity of the popasna and is watching all this attentively yerevanych, podlyako our permanent military expert yuri ivanovich good evening. you have the word that something important is happening today on the fronts of a special operation, it really is happening on

the territory here. in the donbass, this is, well, a safe one - that's for sure . the most important direction. uh, there are also fights under the raisins to the south, but compared to what is happening under the border, there is no comparison. that is, there, and attention is being fought already on the outskirts of the terminal, that is, they are squeezing these remnants of the group, and squeezing out those who are svyatogorsk too squeezes to the left to the right i beg your pardon the bank on the left, but a big offensive. today it wasn’t there, by the way, very serious rains began today, which, by the way, prevent us from moving forward later, but nevertheless, the russian troops continued today in the napoponyansk direction, severodonetsk even now, but they tried, well, accurate data than it ended, but not now, but still yesterday and this morning. uh, in addition to being stormed by the reeds, into which, according to the data that our troops have already entered from me do not bypass it from the west, uh, trying to cut the track too. this is bakhmut, lisichansk and they took a couple

of settlements. in this direction, that is, in general, artillery is already working seriously along this route. nothing can be done there, and taking into account the fact that the railway station is there too, and only one goes through the barvenkovy in this direction, and from there to the russian positions about 10-12 km, then it is also not a very serious artery there to maintain the combat capabilities of resistance this army and i understand that even the kiev leadership, but it understands that this group is doomed, especially after the supreme command zelensky gave the order not to surrender a single city and soldiers. by the way, they also understand this today, there was a message that, uh, they are already agreeing that they need to go out, they must give up, because they don’t understand. that they are like the armies of the paulus, as mariupol was sentenced. and actually they are waiting for just grinding. and the reservists. that was the news yesterday. yes, that is, the prisoners reported that the same with the vaunted 79 the brigade that started the combat composition. as if

literally how many 2 1/2 months ago, they were completely contract soldiers, now from this seventy-ninth brigade, according to the prisoners, only 20% of contract soldiers. the rest of the reserves. that is, we understand that, at least, his unit in his battalion has already dropped out of 2,500 battles, 80% of the personnel. that is, they were killed, wounded, captured. that is a huge loss. that is, those mushroom brigades that used to be on contract actually. this is a very revealing moment in many respects ground the same most. i met, and the recognition of the ninety-second brigade, seventy-second brigade. and these are the last parts, after all, this is the twenty- fifth regrinding of the underwear. they will not succeed in such a new contingent. next army. they will be much weaker. and now the priest is grinding the last ones. these are the units that are still there, well, you can conditionally call them cadres, and even despite this, they can only delay our progress , but progress. it's not just going north also to the west in the region of ba. and in the south, in the area of

​​​​trinity light-e, svetlodar, uh, here, uh, the cauldron is also brewing. and i think that here, taking into account zelensky's order, there will also be. well, a small pot, the first one there will be estimated by 15,000 people, the second maximum. well, probably five thousand, it won’t fit there anymore, just, and then yes , there will be movement into the deevsky cauldron there, by the way, today in new york. i said that there must be a powerful attack. yes, she, well, as if the most powerful artillery began, then the rain poured down and the locals. they say it's raining. poured that all the same decided not to attack today. there, literally everything was flooded from the position, and the weather itself intervened and made its own adjustments. if you look under avdiivka, there is also a message that we took something today, but in general, it started raining downpours there today. that's how i look at the forecast. they will continue for several more days, so to speak. well, too, unfortunately, it works in the hands of the enemy, because they really threshed under the avdeyka there. in the north. there is such a settlement there, and andriapolis is the former rosa there according to those. i was told yesterday they just

equalized it. here there was a large accumulation of vushniks. for some reason they were preparing a counterattack there, they were literally razed, they plowed with the ground, as i was told, a settlement, well, there were no peaceful people there , a small settlement, but he says, this settlement simply does not exist there anymore, like those who was there tried to hide and prepared for a counterattack. well, here it is, yes. here. thanks a lot. uh, it was yury podlyako, a military expert, yes. uh, it's probably raining. can save and new york from liberation, but not for long. i'm sure, uh, donbass, new york, will soon be, uh, liberated, uh, but as for the logical conclusions that the kiev leadership could draw about the military situation, which, in general, is similar to the situation. and unfortunately, such a conclusion will not be drawn, because in the united states of america, the governors of kiev have a different opinion on this matter. what after advertising

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live big game today 17 the united states votes for the allocation of forty billion dollars of economic military aid to ukraine, but as it turns out, this is only the first small step in the big economic geopolitical and military-strategic game that is about to play, the united states has already actually begun to play, which causes serious concern already in the united states itself. carlson listen to the united states voted to give ukraine another 40 billion dollars, only 11 senators voted against it, they are all

republicans. now no one knows exactly where this money will go, but we can be sure that this is only the very beginning the leaders of both sides agreed that yes, we are at war with russia that we will fight this war until we quote we win, but no one can determine in what it is this victory that will be concluded and the government of the united states is ready to spend up to three trillion dollars to defeat russia, you did not know about it, because no one publicly announced this. they talk about it privately without consulting you because public support for this is almost zero, you can't afford to fill up your car. no baby food, but we're going to spend $3 trillion fighting russia and it's out of the question. who's excited about this? so of course it's the people who sell guns to the retired general, take mccaffrey, who for some reason has been taken seriously all this time. just posted on twitter - this is a video of a ukrainian

air defense quote destroying russian aircraft. there is only one problem - this image is not from ukraine is a video game called arma 3. it is a video game by berry mcfrey and of course max who fancies himself a military expert retweet. this is wow, how interesting. yes, because this is a video game, that's how they understand this war as a game, but it's not only ukraine, we now invaded the waffle, because this is exactly what the state does, which cannot solve any of its internal problems rather than trying to solve the world's problems with weapons that biden authorized the military to deploy hundreds of operatives on the plane that salt. after all, we recently withdrew troops from there, what is going on here in general? indeed, what is happening, but everyone who listened carefully heard. yes, in the

united states, officials, visiting officially american institutions, such as congress, and the white house say openly that we are in a state of war with russia, our goal is a military victory over russia and the third. they say that we are ready to spend three trillion dollars on this, how to treat it. let's start with numbers like, well, roughly speaking, about 4 annual military budgets of the united states of america. well, that's about it. and as you know, uh, there is all sorts of shaking at the dryer. e lobbying. uh, overpriced. as a result, approximately 30% is spent less on armaments. well , even less let 30, but here we have a completely different picture. i would like to remind the saying free cheese, it happens only. in a mousetrap, if you continue this thought of free cheese, there is no such circus at all, someone has to pay for the persecution

certain goals. and now, look, the united states of america is starting a program of weapons that will actually be free for ukraine someday . pay the same linguist. but after all, someone must pay for these weapons, which will go to ukraine for free, therefore, for the american voter. everything is divided into two parts, otherwise it will be difficult for him to understand why 3 trillion. uh, in fact, hmm, you need to buy weapons and send them to ukraine, that is, free weapons for ukraine, and then an amount is allocated, which makes this aid not free of charge for the us tax-payer, but that's not the whole picture either. the fact is, again, we have to remember, the united states of america during world war ii, what made it a great power. yes, this is tlent fox and made a paradox in that by launching an arms production envelope in the second world war, the united states of america ignited its economy, got out of the great depression crisis and became the united states with which we

fought the soviet union, then several decades. they do not allocate this money to ukraine. they allocate this money to themselves these trillion. well, something will be stolen, something will disappear and will be spent on restoring the economy of the united states of america, that is, using the conflict in europe that they essentially started and kindled and prepared. they repeat their own way of zavola. how munchausen can pull himself out of the economic swamp. well, the sums of the sums here already begin various appetites, all kinds of lobbyists, and so on and so forth, but to say it directly the american voter. they can't otherwise it will look ugly. we must say they started a war in europe, we flood ukraine with weapons in order to pull our economy out of the pit, agree with them let them be false, but declare. values ​​don’t fit at all, and vladimirovich, i have a few questions for you as one of

our leading economists, which means, well, the amount is called, which means that so far there is no discussion of this amount anywhere, but it is called the corridors of power, which means the question is, for what period this amount? what are they even talking about, uh, the second question, where are they going to get these uh, three trillion in america there, you know, the worst budget deficit and huge national debt, and so on and so forth. then uh, well, what are they going to do with those trillions? well, of course, you can always steal and cut there. this is clear. but if so, they can, but uh, you know, uh, if you just print it? uh, america's inflation, the highest in 40 years, yes, that is, it's also not not not unsafe and so on. that's what we're talking about, and how realistically in general, all this talk about three

trillion. well, firstly, i agree with my colleague that this is such a political question and related to how to present it. and i remember the time when this was preserved in historical documents, when it was allocated for money for plans. she is the support of europe, uh, then the marshal discussed these issues, so to speak, and with the congress and one of the influential politicians told him, you have only one way to get that money to come to congress yourself and your daughters to scare the country, a and then the money was allocated, but they were just ten times less than half a billion. yes, they are at current prices anyway. probably no more than $400 billion over the past two years, the us federal reserve has poured into the us economy, well, a comparable amount, and through quantitative easing programs. well it's a

mission, it's a mission. yes, of course, this is the buyback of securities is actually the refinancing of the public debt in the united states of america, so of course, this is the issue. e, which actually speaking of which, senator paul has already sent all these congress, which, in general. in fact, he said that we do not have this money, even these forty billion. we will go after them to borrow them from china, and this is true, because for such a sum, we will have to increase internal ones. well, outwardly, respectively, the duty of the united states of america to borrow this money on the world market is another way . here is recycling. here are these three two or three trillion dollars earlier, thrown into the economy through the repeated, so to speak, e issue of treasury securities and uh, so to speak, investing in them banks and from re-issuing dollars, so to speak, the federal reserve. well, that’s all, but what’s the problem, again, i agree, but in the fact that biden

came to power, uh, carrying in his hands some packages of infrastructure development of the united states in the united states. a great economic power, so to speak, with good and technological developments has a catastrophic infrastructure. she has problems with gas and oil pipelines. uh, still part of the same proverbial oil, there are found in either autosulphur, or uh, the rail transport just recently received information that the largest companies. they are all at axon mobil suing with having to sue the local commons, so to speak in the courts, to be allowed to get to their factories. working refineries to california a certain amount of crude oil from the uh, gulf of mexico regions, because the oil pipeline uh is so bad that it's already uh, there have been accidents, in short, uh, everything, it's all

combined. e, says that today theoretically, through emission mechanisms , such money can appear in the budget of the united states of america, certainly not within a year, there and for a certain number of years, but they will, in essence, replace those important really objectively important changes in the infrastructure of the american economy, which long overdue and certainly today's symmetries there, there is 8.5% inflation. after a certain period of time they can turn into 16.5% inflation and certainly. this will again hit the pockets of consumers. who pays for it? he will, so to speak, completely. growth, because financiers in the financial market will also pay, because this will be a change in priorities, if today it is invested in companies that set themselves the goal of development, ecology, technology, and so on, then

naturally, the roll will now be done in defense industry. uh, restructuring the stock market monetary policy changes, which we now see low interest rates on the wave. in general , talk that here we are here we will be cut. eh, so to speak, an injection into the economy, but nonetheless. it still doesn't happen, so it's all so snowy. what is the shaft? yes , tsunamis, which, in general, can have very deplorable consequences, unfortunately, not only for the united states, but for the entire world economy. yes, but the united states, i'm really clearly overestimating its capabilities right now, in addition to, uh, decrepit infrastructure. they still have very serious problems with their implementation. they can produce themselves in fact, having that the industrial base that they now have, having sent the entire industry to asia a long time ago and uh, there is a problem. very serious. uh, this problem of american leadership, american leadership,

which largely rests on the figure of joe biden. eh, and he continues to amaze. but we already, uh, remember, yes, he u memorized the name of his wife. uh, whose husband is he? uh, who's his vice president. uh, what is the name of his position , he forgot everything, but until yesterday. he didn't forget. which side he runs, but he forgot and this listen to a partnership that is strengthened by deep family ties and values ​​​​reflected in ah-ah-ah in general, here in the united states well , there he had usa written on the promter, sunny glare and he could not pronounce the word usa , such is his behavior. it is already causing obvious

irritation on the part of its most important sponsors, the people who supported it. i am elon musk, the richest man on the planet. earth, too, was ironic about this yesterday. here, listen to him. it's honestly hard to tell what the bike is doing the real president is the one who controls his telesuren the way of real power. this is the way to the teleprompter, i suspect that if someone inadvertently shits on the hotel, it will be like a tv presenter in a movie. yes, and this is the person who really brought, uh, joe biden to power, but the number of such people is constantly growing. and the same fox news channel and

another observer draws the same attention to this. here, listen to what he said. wall street is turning its back on him by his liberal friends, the billionaires. so called independent all turn away. from him. biden was supposed to be one of the establishment, which would bring us back to normal, and now all these guys who wanted a byte elected, who actually elected him, what they are doing is jeff bezos. put biden in the presidency no doubt about it his washington post newspaper his amazon his donation to wall street valley silicon. they sponsored him. and now these customers are upset they want to return the goods this person does not do what what he promised and they call him to account for lying. the issue of american leadership has obvious questions and not just about biden, which we i think are not groundless and make fun of, because of course, well, uh, the most

powerful man on the planet does not look like the most powerful man on the planet. as the american media is trying to convince us . uh, the united states is perceived all over the world. well, as such a weakening leader, a weakening hegemon, and who is still tries to lead the world to spend three trillion dollars on a war with russia, er, but er, even in the ranks of nato there is no order. here, well, it seems, finland sweden is a settled issue. yes, everything was decided today in finland, sweden, they give applications to nato, stoltenberg makes a statement there that we all accept them with a quick track about the negotiations begin, because erdogan put forward a number of certain conditions and it turns out that even here it would seem so easy question, uh,

a problem arises, because erdogan should not only for sweden and finland to declare the kurdistan workers' party its derivative terrorist organizations, but also to join the program for obtaining f-35 fighters and to exclude them from er, there are sanctions on the purchase of our s400 and so on and so forth. this is american leadership, as far as it can now translate into big problems for us. and maybe, i think that for us, however strange it may sound , the problem is that the american establishment. he he is nervous he is nervous therefore this nervousness. it has been going on for more than a year, you know trump , when he put forward this made america great again, he kind of put forward a slogan. it is clear to the americans, it is

clear, and i bet that nothing came of it. he did not put forward this slogan, but in fact, he is trying to do the same, but to do it not like there, but through inciting war through the use of ukraine against us with regard to three trillion. well, there is also processing of public opinion itself and of congressmen to among which is by no means only one sex dissatisfied with these amounts already and madam congress 11 people preliminary vote against consideration on a fast track. this is the number of votes against. there, in fact, the opposition to the republican a-a party fluctuates both among congressmen and among senators more and more. and they

need to be processed, they need to be forced. by the way, it is very interesting how to force it, because now we see it. not only in the united states, but in europe, as internal oppositionists, they are forced in various ways to go within the mainstream. it it was with labor who said that the expansion on this led to that situation. and those who signed this name twisted their arms, they removed their signatures. it's in the small one. uh, holland has a forum for democracy, which seeks the truth, all of which for some reason we still believe that there is democracy somewhere, but it was not there in democracy. there is none, so let's already forget about it, that someone there can influence something, having their own or having their own opinion. and you know, it is very important for us what we say

we speak the truth and it is much more than on our opponent. and that's when it sounds true. the second day is the third we have, so that it still makes its way in this confrontation. we seem to have to hold several fronts at once, by no means only the military front only economically, but also the gigantic information front. and on this front, it is very important for us to win too. although we have a resource that is not comparable to our opponent. and what resources and i think that this is the nervousness of the american establishment. she's bound with the fact that, but they also understand that they are losing their economic struggle in china, they are losing and they don’t understand it. how to change this is the adventure that they actually went on and which causes concern for such smart people

as the same tucker yes, they say that whatever it is, the price that we can raise america this is too risky a price, but uh- uh, if they are now going to spend a trillion on a war with russia. i can imagine. how much will they have to spend if they want to simultaneously lead confrontation with china, i think this amount should, at a minimum. there it will triple at the loop. well, i think the united states, uh, absolutely uh, can't just bring in this double confrontation, but what's going on on the economic front. we 'll talk after the commercial. exodus of azov long columns, surrendering from the factory katak, almost 700 more people came out. what do they say about the attitude towards them in captivity? lies about the salvation of ukraine the west

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the same time something is not right in the danish kingdom. i am i mean western countries. today. they had to finally agree on the sixth package of sanctions against the russian federation. the european union has been agreeing for the third fourth week on the sixth position, nothing has been agreed on by the kid of sanctions. sanctions uh, really have a very hard effect on uh, the german economy today there are figures that i will ask you to display the growth of uh prices in germany well , firstly, it’s really very bad expectation of what will happen in germany and 80% i’m waiting for the collapse of production chains, but there's just april the rise in wholesale prices in germany, which is just going through the roof, is fantastic, ah, growth, which

is actually very fast, ah, will simply spill over into the already retail market. see solid fuel 80-70%. petroleum products 63% metal ore semi-finished products 55% chemical industry products, 44% milk food products 30% this is the economy of the federal republic in britain has already begun to declare some areas as economic emergency zones, that is, the situation is actually very, very bad complex and at this time statements are made that quite comparable in unison with the american promises. e three trillion dollars for a war with russia, listen to the reports of the rappers agency. a high-ranking european official backed a multi-trillion dollar marshall plan-style reconstruction plan for ukraine and promised strong

eu credit support - said the true president trillions from the european investment bank to ukraine here, again, we can talk about where the trillions for ukraine come from in europe well, look, here the situation still seems to me more sad than in the united states, since the americans still have it. there is, firstly, the privilege of the fact that their, uh, internal debt is actually an external debt. uh, bought as a reserve currency. true, he was greatly spoiled, so to speak, the image of this backup backup method of storing funds by arresting, in fact, freezing russian foreign exchange reserves, but nevertheless, they have , uh, this tool that they can use and, in general, carry out the mission, and

then this is a country that still has it with its own budget, it is economically sovereign in terms of financial plan of the country, as for the european union , here is the eleventh year of the well-known greek crisis. he showed that even in those critical situations in europe, it still failed. mize the budgetary sovereignties of the countries that are members of the european union and therefore collect these trillions of euros, about which they dream, so to speak, e representatives of the investment bank or someone from the management. the european union will have to, because in the eu countries it will be someone who will pay more, someone who will pay less. eh, and i will prove that it will not be estonians and poles, of course. and this will be a worse fight than the sixth package, because, uh, here the question will already be about snatching such amounts of money from national economies from national social programs, economic programs and so on, therefore, such statements for the european union they are generally

seem rather rash enough. well, not to mention the fact that it just has a colossal impact on its economy as well, including the sixth here is this package of sanctions in the relationship. will they all accept it someday or not? well, they have a leader. i think that after all, the european union and the united states will convince everyone with the tools they have so that they can coordinate their positions, that this or after nato expansion, they will convince everyone, because the sixth package. in fact, there still ran into oil. well of course, to give up russian oil, in my opinion, is quite difficult. well, not when they kill, at least two economies of the hungarian slovak. well , in fact, a very serious blow to a whole number of other economies, er and they are all about, the less said. now there is an outflow

of capital, if europe i am the only joint headquarters of the united states fought. they earn on the supply of liquefied gas and will earn more and more. they also expect to supply shale oil, not oil. i think europe that is for the united states, this is a very big game , a very big economic game that they expect to win, and this policy is the strength of the really economic united states that it is supported by the european union. e. indeed. you look at these people, they seem to be in a normal mental state. i look and can't find them. they are killing their own economy. and how would, well, there should be resistance, especially since, well, today they are politicians tomorrow, and who will they be? and they all want stay in big politics. and i think that dissatisfaction will be the same with

the same smart people, dissatisfied in europe will grow. and i think that europe is much more vulnerable in this regard, much more vulnerable than regular ones, but uh, with this militarily, there are billions and trillions of them. they are unlikely to result in some kind of decisive technological breakthrough, in general, in fact , similar amounts militarily. they are just counterproductive. these are dangerous amounts that will needed to master, but to master a single industrial capacity. and europe is definitely not for this. he listen, uh, even the germans, who have a great military-industrial complex, but limited by certain, then, uh, criteria that still go back to the time of losing the second world war, but they have the famous 2.000 howitzer, which they are going to supply like. they are inserting into ukraine well, these howitzers in total, 212, where when what

will they have time to do, they will give this money, and the germans will produce on them when it was produced armata, but they concluded, uh, a german concern, and kraus mafomafagman and nexter french signed a contract in order to create something that looks like reinforcement, maybe, let's say signs, well , uh, 6 years have passed and nothing happened these three six trillion. what they will do you understand the american system. she can still absorb that kind of money. although i do not believe that three trillion can be used exclusively for ukraine if , for example, they need a trillion. this is already determined in order to upgrade the nuclear shield, then there is, and three to three trillion in the european economy, militarily, this is money that can be put together in a big pile. well, what to do with them? no one can understand, but in russia, in fact, everything is in motion. a rather compact military budget, but for some reason it works for us, which means that the americans

spent 30 billion on the creation of a hypersonic missile and 30 billion. so, yesterday they launched, uh, conducted test tests. and for now, this is a test test. e, inferior to that, e that north korea has already carried out further so far, what are they up to chinese there indians. uh, when space? yes, we are like for another galaxy. here is in the creation of this hypersonic weapon. in addition, as the prime minister of russia yuri borisov said today, the s-500 is entering service with us. and already the s400 would have coped with the hypersonic missiles that they tested. and we already have 500 which are already much more effective with regard to other types of weapons. i would also like to pay attention to yuri borisov's statement today regarding our lasers. listen blind, something new

the generation of laser weapons already leads to physical damage to the object, that is, it burns through thermal damage so that we do not spend expensive missiles, such as shell and thor, which means, uh. now these systems are on the way, according to which, at a distance of up to 5 km, they can absolutely freely shoot down various classes of unmanned vehicles. they are already starting to come in. the first samples are already in use. so here's my question. what i don't really understand what will happen on may 25 may 25, we will have to pay according to uh, interest on our state. uh, the americans told the bonds that they would not accept this payment and would

consider it a technical default. e, siluanov already said that well, not a drive. so they will not accept rubles , we will pay. it means that some completely incomprehensible situation will really happen on the twenty-fifth. well, actually may 25 - this is the last date that is indicated in the general license that issued the us treasury allowing payments to be made, and for russia's external debt after when the central bank of the ministry of finance was appropriate sanctions have been imposed with blocking the ability to use their accounts, so the question is not so much the timing, that on this very day some kind of payment or non-payment will occur, but on this day this general will simply stop. now, as far as i understand, the final decision has not yet been made, uh, signals from the us treasury that most likely this license will not be renewed, this will mean that in fact, u use those resources that

could be used by the treasury, and on their accounts located abroad to pay external electricity, and it will be impossible to do this with external debt. and this is, in general, a targeted policy that is aimed at forcing russia, uh, to pay, uh, regular payments on its external debt from those new revenues, uh, the currency that we now receive from exports, but not, so to speak, not frozen funds . and before that, we know there were such attempts. and judging by the fact that now there is, as it were, complete silence on this issue in the western press. they were enough. successful means, but uh definitely we we are in a situation where if the americans declare that russia is in default, they will declare it independence from the tattoo of the actual situation, which is meaningless to

say anything about what is not there. here they will say, so they will be considered. they will assume that in fact it is purely technical. uh, so purely nominal, because it is connected with , in fact, with force majeure, which arises as a result of their own actions. and what are its consequences? yes, well, in general, actually big consequences in the current situation. it has in other e conditions. yes, this would lead to a sharp rise in the cost of russia's external debt and difficulties in attracting money, but now there is no question of this, therefore, in fact, of course, there are a lot of regular screws, therefore, on occasion, but such lightning-fast e, or some kind of long-term economic consequences. this is the next one. uh, such a fictitious sanction that will cause damage. probably those who expected to receive money from russia

of these payments to the banks that invested in them, of course, the americans want to state in the information field that the sanctions are working and russia is already bankrupt. that's what they want, i mean, they need a statement, not some concrete action, but i would like to go back to those three trillion and try to explain what the looking glass of today's world economy is like, because it's really very interesting. if it weren't so scary, so here are three trillion - this is the united states allocated money for industrialization in the united states of america. that ’s why they will allocate large sums to ukraine, because the industrialization program of their united states is one of the steps towards the fight against china and it is imperative to do where the money will come from. in order to avoid inflation and the collapse of the economy, it is necessary that this allocated money be immediately invested in some kind of product. and here is the weapon for ukraine, that

is, they allocated money, they drew it themselves, they did not create it earned in today's economies. money is not earned precisely on this mission mechanism, american power and rest were created, they bought money, they gave weapons to ukraine, they are trying to weaken russia at the same time, and that's the whole operation. it hangs on thin threads, but they have no other choice, because we are talking about the redistribution of the world, and their domination, therefore, they put on a horse. as a matter of fact, everything. well, in fact, the united states really puts everything at stake, because otherwise they lose the global one. i don't think they can number defeat us, but as alexander vasilyevich suvorov said e, which e whose memorial day is celebrated today in our country e not by number a by skill, and he also wrote a book the science of winning, from which i allowed myself and will not refuse the pleasure of counting a few quotes the fortress

is strong , the garrison is a whole army, but nothing can stand against russian weapons. we are strong and self-confident, said alexander vasilievich, easy victories do not flatter the russian heart. victory must be won in a fair fight. in essence there is nothing more harmful and even more no one can be as cruel as sentimental people are harmful and cruel as a result of their actions. and that's why? there is a continuation there, a person who loves his neighbors , a person who hates war, must finish off the enemy so that another war does not start after one. and finally, we are russians. we will overcome everything, why yes, because our right cause is behind us suvorov behind us is the generation of our ancestors winners