museum, where all items will be properly described and placed in specially designated areas. such values ​​could be lost, but it's great that there are still people who do this and save, no matter what, there is one thing. alexander the point is what to call e, or try to call theft the movement of objects within one country. it 's generally strange. this is mariupol mariupol is responsible with the dpr, that is, from now on, the state recognized by us and imagine god to fall, that in some provincial russian city of russia the museum would burn down, well, the house burned down, it’s impossible to keep anything at the moment, what we do is transport objects to the regional center for restoration, and we restore the building of the regional museum, then we return back nothing special about it. no. it's not in another country. this is inside one country of its own exposition, because it’s just that they can’t walk there now, they are in a deplorable state, so even frick doesn’t pull here. you are practically. the words of the

director of the mariupol museum were repeated. let's go now let's listen to what he says about this, and who told the locals? or they threw incendiary ammunition azov here, they say that it burned down even before the arrival and before the start of active hostilities. e in this part of town. you don't know there were attempts to plunder it, the doors were broken into, the reservoir was broken into. uh, we assume that at least the broken windows, that is, the doors, are intact. they are still closed. and uh, well, the locks of the bars were not broken there. and here are the windows through the windows, most likely, and now we've got in touch. at in general, also with the e military and asked at checkpoints to be attentive to the exported items. maybe there's something in there. god forbid, of course, that is, they still make sure that it is not taken out somewhere. now we are in touch with nikolai anatolyevich klyarev. let's find out. uh, how many exhibits came to the donetsk museum.

hello. good afternoon studio. we are now in the far republican. in the human museum, there are those objects of museum significance that we managed to evacuate. as for these fakes, i want to say in previous videos. you showed yuri bukharev. this is our press secretary, an employee of the donetsk republican museum of local lore, who, after mobilization. uh, serves in the press center of the people's militia denider. he filmed his video in mariupol and, as a museum worker, assisted us in loading exhibits for evacuation in bags. he had rare books. and tell us, please, what is now with these exhibits. what is the future fate. eh, because the documentation for these exhibits. no, employees museum carried out attribution determines what kind of exhibits. what period they are

photographed in order to compile a list of those items that will come to us. not for storage, but most of what we managed to evacuate from there. this is scientific literature. these are collections of encyclopedias of the late 19th and early 20th centuries , our librarians and researchers are also working with them to compile a list and catalog of those items that have come to us for temporary storage. it is not yet clear. yes, what the number of exhibits was looted by soldiers of the apu in e. at the time when they were holding mariupol no, we can only now talk about what came from us is just a small particle of that, uh, s. what else needs to be worked on are a lot of books, a lot of items that cannot be approached now, because the building is destroyed and in the floor slabs. there are holes

there, it’s impossible to just go there, fakes mainly featured paintings by kuindzhi and aivazovsky please tell me they are in place, that is, they have been brought to donetsk now yes indeed, the works of kuindzhi and avazovsky are with us, they are behind me, and if the operator has taken out, let the operator show them to you. in general, now you can definitely refute this fake, because here they are the very pictures that we can just see with you now. tell us about this picture, what kind of painting is aivazovsky on the canvas, if the studio is visible from the reverse side, his autograph is also in large print. in general, aivazovsky is now safe. i can say thank you very much for this inclusion. i know that you will have a lot of work, but for sure. this is a job that is pleasant for you, even in such difficult circumstances. all

the best to you alexander comments, and sometimes commercial ones when you just had to live and left a signature, he is valued less than this vazovsky belongs to the period of his really best. and i would say creativity. this is somewhere on the new york stock exchange is quoted for several thousand dollars, a large picture of ivanovsky located. and we have in the collection of the exposition of the russian embassy in france on the street grynel. in the building, it is the message of the main embassy that costs about 3-4 million dollars now. that is, it pulls for several hundred thousand approximately. yes, more than great that all this is preserved, and now it will be restored safely and we hope it will soon be exhibited again for all people with this fake. we figured it out. let's move on to the next fake. here my native city is affected. krasnoyarsk did not think that it would somehow fly to krasnoyarsk, in general. that's the whole wave, and

let's look at this fake. now you see how he sounds to replenish the fund of agricultural products is planned at the expense of deliveries from ukraine i will briefly read in russia supposedly. has arisen. there is an acute shortage of grain and the reason for this is the ubiquitous sanctions, therefore, i quote, it was decided to withdraw the surplus crops in ukraine and export them to russia. such information allegedly appeared on the website of the legislative assembly, krasnoyarsk territory. did you hear dmitry ? i saw the reposts of this news. eh, i want to say thank you. e press secretary we press services that work in local administrations, because which came up fairly quickly. with a refutation, a statement was made and from the point of view of the fake technology , i’ll say that here the combo is both looting and a shortage in russia, that is , a technologist is sitting somewhere on the other side, and he closed, as it were, two checkmarks in his report to the west, that so in russia there is not enough grain, empty shelves and, uh, russia

has come to the point that dismissal turns out to be grain. for me, this is a very simple fake, and thank god we in russia quickly put a note on this that this is really a fake the only thing we saw was that it also flew to the west, where, naturally, people cannot imagine that we have problems with grain. no. well, in general, such a fake is very called fat. yes, because for what reason, and the administration of the krasnoyarsk territory make some kind of export decrees, this is not her task at all. eh, if there is already some kind of export, then the decision is made by higher ones. bodies - this is accepted at the level of the ministry of agriculture, and it's very funny in fact, because people in general, who do it all. they don’t even understand how it works in our country, in general, everything is a system in the country. and it's her very, very unprepared mind calculated here. it's interesting here. it's just that it appeared on the website of the legislative assembly of the krasnoyarsk territory and

we are connecting valery venga, deputies of the legislative assembly of the krasnoyarsk territory, to our conversation. hello good day everyone. please tell the story of this fake. how did you meet him? and why did he get on the site of the legislative assembly? yes indeed, it ended up on the site of the krasnoyarsk territory of our legislative assembly site. our there is one of the most open organizations available. and now, uh, unfortunately it was broken. here, on the 4th, the management wrote a statement to law enforcement agencies. now it's being tested. i think that in the very near future we will find out who, how and from where all this came to our site. tell me, are there many fakes, in general, now it reaches the krasnoyarsk territory about a special operation in ukraine yes, unfortunately, despite the fact that we are located, well, it’s quite far from the zone of active fighting there, well, siberians are

persistent people, no one believes. there's all this talk. uh, everyone is guided by those news channels that go, including asking the respected channel one, you need to watch channel one correctly, it ’s great for you. thank you very much again. greetings, krasnoyarsk of all siberia all the best to you , hello, goodbye. i alexander had two comments about this, the first one is that the culture of those who create it is curious. yes, on the tour of odessa, just a reminder, it was the grain exchange of the world russian empire. specifically represented by wheat, the first supplier of wheat in the world was the russian empire bread bee. we put in odessa and , indeed, ukraine everything that russia is in the zone of re-risk farming. she stopped at that level of productivity, so to speak, but dictated, so to speak, fashion, uh, in this area in this market of the entire russian empire, so far a lot of time has passed, a lot of water has flowed under the bridge and it’s curious. i just want to improve culture, and russia's fifamites for today, again the first

grain supplier in the world. we overtook america, we overtook france we represent grain and even to western europe the fact is that russia has never been in such high positions as it is now relative to the soviet union yes, there was an era in the union when we bought, ah, certain grain crops for people, but for cattle it, well, it went on a computer pocket, another eighties , i can even clarify when the epoch of the apollo union, who remember this was the space program, but it was a very long time ago, and russia was able to do what the soviet could not do union though, it is much less territory in the risky farming zone. they just take off their hats in front of ours. in circles it's not. it's unthinkable, therefore unthinkable, because it's really amazing for everyone so, what a stupid fairy tale. uh, illiterate and does not justify the money that is being spent on this very 72 dog of the american owners. dmitry, you wanted this, do not forget, the technology for the appearance of this fake site hacking and the news is located

there, i, firstly for unprepared people, i will say that sites are hacked by thousands of tens thousand. uh, every day technically. it turns out, in fact, it is not very difficult, because many sites are made on constructors on insecure control systems. some control systems are western. and we, for example, even faced the fact that the hosting provider is the place where the site is stored. suddenly, somehow it turned out that western and they generally placed on sites that are from russia everything that any videos and site owners wanted. they didn’t even immediately understand where it came from, it just changed hosting provider and sometimes, by the way, from the other side do not bother directly with hacks. they just take a screenshot and in photoshop or any other editor in the site design draws that this news is supposedly posted, either on official social networks or on the official website, and people believe that this is an official statement has already flown, that is

, such a technical trick with hacking or supposedly a hack. this is already a proven technology on the other side of the public consciousness, because it is effective. whether there will be enough grain in russia, we will find out about this right now from alexander korbatovitsy president of the russian grain union ushin will definitely give us the answer to these questions. hello. good afternoon. please tell us how things are now with grain in russia, we are exporting. we have large volumes of transfers. we have stocks, according to our estimates, we will collect somewhere from 125 to 128 million tons at least. and this is in comparison with previous years, in order to represent 121 million to our viewers last year. and for the year we consume a maximum of 80-81 million tons, in general, there is a lot of grain and there will be a lot, but in ukraine, what, judging by their the sowing campaign is underway by an analytical agency. yes, ukraine

expects less gross. grain harvest in that year was a record one; it will collect millions by 20 tons less . ukraine will fully provide for itself. grain and that's good, that's good news. oh well, but the fact that someone says that we will have something prod. this is nonsense, if grain deliveries to the west were introduced to some other countries, will they be preserved this year, firstly, for the very smell that is not friendly, we traditionally supplied small volumes of grain, we have a grain meridian global, that is, one more sea in the first place. this is africa, that is, the market that is ours, which we won very hard in the fight against other countries, and we are holding it. therefore

, our exports will be less in the year; objectively , there were simply fewer repetitions, and for next year, for the next season. i think we can potentially export somewhere in the order of 49 million, without prejudice to the supply of the domestic market. we will have an increase in production for all grains. there will be no problems. this is good news started with a fake, yeah received, indeed, life-affirming news. to all the farmers, to all the tractor drivers, to all the guys in the field, a big hello and a huge hello to them. thank you for their hard but very important work. all the best. thank you all the best. now we have a short advertisement. after it, there are even more fakes and, of course, even more revelations. russia is allegedly facing an acute shortage. coffee such alarming

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enjoy the game the rest is up to us. this anti- fake program, here we are waging our fight against fakes and disinformation, and fakes reach the summer season, or rather, they concern it. let's look at one of them, the largest european tour operator forced turkish hotels not to populate russians dmitry do you know anything about this? yes, we have seen this story. i think those who do they are counting on the fact that, uh, russia will experience some kind of negative emotions towards turkey, which, you see, thank god, relations with turkey are normal in russia. well, in fact , as we understand, this is a fake. that's all, it's

contrived. everything is fine with tours there. i have many friends who fly there from no one. i did not receive information that they had any problems with the flight or with the hotel, no one was being evicted. no, alexander , do you have news as comments that our tourist friends, how really wants to get a flow of russian tourists, what now? the air carrier company, in my opinion, has now been registered specifically for the transportation of russian tourists. that is, thereby they actually go against the line. well, as they say nato and the entire collective west in general, it's clear. why? well, firstly, your own shirt is closer to strength, and turkey lives by transportation. i mean tourists. yes, and secondly, uh, well, there is no reason for the tours to do something else with them, uh, already established. i would say, uh, everything, uh, directions under our demand and no one from the west and the western directions of the western countries will be able to close them. but this is the

need for tourists, respectively, they really count on a flow of order, and two million during the summer months from russia is important yes, let's see now, a refutation of just this fake that we are parsing here is how it sounds, and the letter to hotels in turkey, here is a tantur, uh, there really is a host of european thuja companies, only here it does n’t say anything at all about russian tourists or about russian tour operators probably said about the owners and russia and let the creators of the distributors of the hype news, who did not understand that it was not about russian tourists. in fact, the turkish press is quite clear about what these three tour operators are, with whom the tour can no longer work there. well, to list a few. uh, the tour operators cited just in this refutation are not curious that one of the three operators with which turkey can no longer work is the baltic operators, that is, the baltic countries. so, perhaps we should think about the purchasing

power of these people. well, it's not surprising that as we diverted our cargo from the baltic ports for a highly venal position to our sample, petersburg before they dropped sharply. so i feel sorry for the bolts or the balts, their problems. you wanted to add, well, i would like to say why why is this being done? as a matter of fact, the fact is that this is just a fake for us. yes, we have uh constantly uh, trying to create the feeling that we are on the side of an outcast, that we are blocked from the whole world. and yes, we are now blocked from europe, but in general, just look at the map and understand that not the whole world. e, us from their lists, what is called rendered? all these blockages, they are actually not hitting us. well, we won’t go, we’ll go somewhere. okay, it happens. we can always go. uh, to another place, but for example, a turan-indian greece, which was very dependent on russian money. she will suffer and

people will suffer. by the way, when i was in greece, and there are a lot of russian-speaking people e, or those who learned it, when they studied, or these are the greeks, who time or patrilined to themselves such a very much for many of these people. these here are the summer tours of russian tourists, it was, in recent years, the only guaranteed source of income, they are on this money. e lived, then a whole year and these people here. they are now in a precarious position for sure. yes, so let's go. ah. now let's connect yuri alexandrovich oborzeke to our conversation with the vice-president of the russian union of tour industry. hello. hello. i would like to discuss this fake news with you, have you heard about it and how will you comment on it, as far as fake news has flown spread. well, i think now, including with our help, it is now slowly reacting to any related news. uh,

especially the dreams of tourists, where the uncertainty is high and of course, the risks. the increased reaction was very nervous, especially since it was relayed along with other venues. it's good that an explanation about this appeared in time, as from arthur himself operator. uh, here he has a main company of fans who have no problems, and they are starters, uh, do not work in turkey now. well, as well as information that the other two companies. e, through which it was proposed to stop booking never russian tourists, but they didn’t bring russian tourists to turkey and didn’t book through them, it comes from baltic tt and a couple

of rubles in this form, so in no way did this affect russian tourists and does not affect. tell russian tourists settle in turkish hotels, of course. and even more than that, this priority market for turkey enjoys support. uh, both on the part of business structures and on the part of the state, we know that negotiations about this are taking place at the highest level at the level of the president, therefore they are not evicted, and moreover, aeroflot puts additional flights on turkey . thank you very much for this comment. all the best to you and have a good start of the tourist season. if there is anything to add, i would make a small comment. uh, like the military

experts are curious enough. we fought with turkey many times i say, 12 or 14 once we were the union of the adrianople world - this is the middle of the xix in the first half of the middle, but uh, tourism made it impossible, but it's pointless to try to quarrel the people, when the interests of a really large group come into play people. all of them appreciated the truly turkish hospitality of the opportunity to rest in this country and notice that really began inter-national communication of the widest. mass. this is the achievement of our era. i like it. now we have a-a in touch from sunny turkey the tourist said. here is her xenia let's find out how things are now on the turkish coast xenia hello wonderful city of tickets. the weather is great. tell me how to check into a hotel, because fake news is based on the fact that russian tourists will not be accommodated in turkish hotels. did you manage to settle in turkey? are you still happy to see

russian tourists ? holidays and actually this year did not become, but the exception and everything is still at the same level at which it was every year there is a sufficient number of russian tourists here, probably more than a percentage, as always, that is , 60 percent, if we say directly about uh, our hotel, all the rest are actually turks and europeans, but the atmosphere is more than friendly, both among tourists and among the host, that is, hotel professionals. eh, here you go. well, you see, everything is waiting for us in ok, you can go. let's move on to the next fake. here's what it looks like, by the way, outrageous russian soldiers invading ukraine threaten a group of young girls. here is a fake distributed on the network looks even in my opinion unprofessional, but rather. strange, alexander you probably have, yes, gregory if you

want to say something, where i immediately saw the form of the israeli uniform. this is an israeli soldier. yes? this is, uh, 16, yes, so he has a helmet on. this is a characteristic look. you can't confuse him with anything. weapon form here already betrays everything. yes, the fact that this is a soldier is not russian for sure, well, the girls who are also depicted in the photograph do not look like ukraine, so there is nothing to comment on here, for which it’s just a frame. from this alien reality of dmitry, did you follow the acceleration, do you know where it started from, in general, where is the recognition? as i understand it, ukraine even sometimes does not hide it. here in the messages, when it comes to the fact that we allegedly take out paintings, we rob. ah, art. eh, they just really attached photographs of world war ii germans with pictures. it seems to me that the ukrainians themselves have already reconciled somewhere that their task is simply to add an illustration from there, not from there. but unfortunately in these pictures they believe back they believe in asia when they see

it they sometimes really don't understand. not in uniform, nor some year, nor what kind of people are not palm trees, if suddenly they fall. landscapes don't frighten anyone, it seems to everyone that somewhere out there we can just read the original of this photo dated november 24, 2005. pictured is the protest. palestinian students palestinian teachers hold lessons near the israeli checkpoint in the city of hebron in the west bank protesting against the searches of children going to school, but they wanted to add, and the cargo here does not smell and you can see it with the naked eye. well, besides the fact that gregory is still immediately provided, and so to speak, respectively, an assault rifle. so to speak , of the american type, it is a conversation about the fact that he does not even direct it towards these wonderful protesters of molotov . they say, that is, yes, this is a protest, people are chanting something as a soldier. maybe i don't know what, what we answer there, such as, shut up go away and so

on, but a frightened terrorized ear, like imagine, what is a soldier who is in armor, as they say, and with a gun wants to threaten a woman. i threaten a woman. so, i'm sorry. in my opinion, try not to do something bad, because then the woman would definitely run loose with a loud whine. yes, it is clear that this is a manifestation. look how clasped hands these photos are from different angles. naturally, there are relationships. they're very tense, but they certainly don't smell like murder. i am not rape. sorry nothing else now. let's consider the next fake. he is just talking about the usa, let's say about the distant continent. so, yes, breaking news this time, allegedly russia is acting on the principle of nato, namely, it is invading. take care of yourself. does this look like alexander’s auto invasion? from which side does it not look like rejection to the bombing, not a number war, but it’s not clear the city is incomprehensibly landscape, so that a person is more or less prepared, it is not necessary, even with a military education, he immediately sees a complete discrepancy in

the zone of luck of the battles. so i'm talking funny. i have seen several times videos as straight as demolition of large structures. i, by its nature, that it looks like, that is, i completely agree with dmitry, i also saw a jewelry operation not from red in western europe. maybe we do that too . it is necessary in the center of dense residential development to make the building collapse inside the myself. even the word is e in western languages, the implicit occlusive french inward collapse is called directed explosion. that is when the explosion is exactly fidelity. it folds inward. this is indeed a difficult sapper operation so as not to damage other houses. i can comment this is 2014. this building is an abandoned hotel. he was 100 years old and wellington was albanian. the state of new york and the video is called the explosion of an annex to a hotel in wellington, it was published on august 23, 2014. on one of the sites. e.v. usa is also in the network video footage from different angles of the destruction of this

hotel, and all of them were just published in 2014, but it really looks very impressive. it's a pity, of course, the hotel, but for sure, in fact, he defended. served his own i think that we figured out all the fakes for today, great to you. thank you for coming to us, and for today, watch the anti- fake program with us. lead the fight against the lies that have now fallen upon us, if you have any photos or videos that are in doubt. submit to the editor our program. we will conduct our own investigation and report the results on air. hello, the time will show program continues

to work live as part of the information channel on the first ya artyom sheinin, and for several days now we have been talking about what is happening around azov steel and we are talking not only about a specific object about a specific section of the war, but on which an important event took place, including including a military turning point, and with the beginning of the surrender of ukrainian servicemen. uh, surrendering them , because after all, 2,000 people with weapons - it's strong enough. eh, combat history, but against this background, we are talking about the fact that not only an important military turning point is happening, a very important psychological turning point is happening when we look at these people who continued to leave the basements last night, but also these casemates of the most azovstal uh hmm structures, and until 1:00 am today from there, but they went out in fairly large quantities, the account is already going to hundreds hundreds and hundreds, but uh, this is still not all, surrendered for

these people is already happening very important a psychological fracture a psychological fracture, because they fall into that reality, and which they were strenuously closed from them, they fall into a reality where they are treated, where they are not maimed, where they are fed, where they are placed in human conditions, where with them humanly treated where well, so to speak, all the rules of war are observed. yes, this is not a sanatorium, but our fighters were not there either. all this time in the sanitarium and will not be there in the sanitarium sure that many of them did not expect this sure that many of them the reality in which they lived. and what will be somehow completely different, and now to the question of the reality in which they lived in this one. this is a very important turning point now, because it shows even more clearly and clearly. that's all that whole realistic reality. which is the country for which they fought, for which they

were ready to die for another 2 months, although it is not clear why they were going to die, because zelensky is their president, who told them them for so long that he is going to pull them out, that he is going not to block, that they are all ukraine of all ukraine, which means they are fighting and worrying about them, and so on. what on this day, when these men leaving azov have steel, and many wounded many who will forever remain disabled, what is important today for president zelensky, their commander in chief. well, what day is he today? of course, today is such a day for him. listen to how the president of ukraine and the commander-in-chief are worried about their fighters, let's see if they find themselves in this situation. god i wish you well health, strong, unbending, courageous and free, ukraine you see, today is the day of vyshyvanka today is their day, which is possible for them, well, psychologically human

, some fractures and a turning point, today is the day of vyshyvanka, and today is his day embroidered shirts, despite the fact that not only these fighters surrender in azov, who were there in these same dungeons, and many of whom died, many of whom were wounded on his day of embroidered shirt against the background of the fact that his other fighters of the same terodefense. they write him down every day new and new appeals, like this one. we are a platoon of the 115th brigade of the third battalion, which is now based in severodonetsk. we are turning to you as a fan president and panzaluzhny from the entire ukrainian people. we refuse to carry out combat missions due to the fact that we do not have proper protection, as well as equipment that would cover us and proper leadership. we have been waiting for reinforcements for the second week we are being sent. just, probably, death without having any military leadership, nor you don’t have a military commander, you don’t have people’s equipment, having absolutely nothing, we don’t refuse to defend

our country, but we want to have a proper rear, a proper combat command. we are not alone many of us, we refuse low service in the 115th brigade glory to ukraine still glory to ukraine still glory to that very ukraine the president, whose commander-in-chief today against the background of the fact that they have nothing to fight, and they write it down today is the day of embroidered shirts at the president today embroidery day. and yesterday the day they an adviser to this president was recorded, who tells the ukrainian people about how the front is doing. against this background, he uploads this video. well , because and what else to lay out the arrest, which should say something about the war against the backdrop of this whole story, in all seriousness, a person. posted this video will tell me. maybe he wrote it down yesterday, i don’t care when he wrote it down, he, maybe he writes tons of them, but he posted it yesterday against this background, i say azov stan again and this story shows that there are two ukraines completely farther and farther apart from

each other and now against the backdrop of azovstal. it just became more visible, but not only azov became. here is an example for you, this is the day of embroidered shirts, they are surrendering, this means tanks and these people who went to fight for this invented state, these people who put on this uniform, these are ukrainian prisoners. and it is they who are now in the forests of the luhansk region getting their dead recent colleagues, who ukraine does not need, which does not respond to calls for pro and proposals from both luhansk and don swap bodies. they do not take the bodies of their dead soldiers, despite the fact that they have such an opportunity and now these prisoners. they have to do it with their own hands. yes, this is very symbolic, because after the war, german soldiers were forced to clean up with their hands what was left of the prisoners in the concentration camps. yes, it's symbolic. but this is even more symbolic for this zelensky for this arrest officer. here in this ukraine here in this

frame are all ukrainians and dead ukrainians and living ukrainians. they are all ukrainians. and these ukrainians are not from of the ukraine in which zelensky lives, in which the arrestovich lives, in which he lives. in which this whole fur coat lives, and you know why, because these are the people, no matter how we treat them. they are now prisoners, they fought, they may be killed, but they are living people who now live in real life, and their presidents, commander-in-chief zelensky, lives in a fictional reality that was invented for him and who was made part of this reality and it’s not just vyshyvanka. the fact is that this man has already become a hero, you know what he has become comic book hero in all seriousness. i’m telling you, that’s what this invented ukraine and such a president and commander-in-chief are for, what could be made of this for the world english-speaking public a comic book of an invented hero an invented reality in

which you can solve some of your tasks for hamsters living in europe in america and in the other english-speaking world. and what will happen to these killed ukrainian soldiers with prisoners of war , and so on, those who produced these comics 8 years ago, they are not interested in this, and very many. to unfortunately, still in today's ukraine, many people were unwittingly made heroes of these comics, heroes of these cartoons, which each of them could feel himself. yes, it is very talented, produced. each of them could feel like a superhero. look at these recent ukrainian warriors. it's called living in a fictional reality, living when you've been convinced that you're a superhero. look and listen to this atmosphere just over 3 months ago.

here's what's most important in this video in this video that those people who are now, after all, are the same azov people. here are the azov people on these frames who lived in the comics, who were convinced that this is how life is when you are in the comics, when you are a superhero and the transition has already happened for them, but this is the transition for the whole country, when these people, which are there, well, it’s really, what does this pumping mean. now here they are comics are over fantasy is over for them for these people is over. and for those

who clapped there on that video, that is, you imagine. this is this invented world, when all this is such wars charged such, back and forth. and all this is, as if for applause, an absolute comic show and so on. only now is it clear. why was zelensky needed because only he, an actor, may not care about his living soldiers, because he was included in comics and fantasy, and he exists in it absolutely organically. for him, these people no longer exist, because he lives like some other episode of this. and if someone gives me he will say that all this happened, because in the fourteenth year you came somewhere and did something. no, i'll tell you. i am all this is the fate of those who are surrendering now and those whose corpses are already being picked out from in the lugansk forests. ukrainian prisoners, it all started much earlier , and not with us, it all started much earlier, with such conversations in ukrainian television studios. listen, but we have a

people very accustomed to fighting, a lot of people who know how, love to fight and enjoy the war, we will do it. we are ready to resist. we are ready for war, and we have dignity. who would not say. you see, this is the eighth year of no crimea , no donbass, and they already have a lot of people who want and love to fight. and this figure, who said all this, is doing well now. it does not decompose anywhere in the forests of the lugansk region. he is not in captivity. he doesn't come out. as these so to speak, e completely stunned fighters. eh, don't go anywhere. how he carried this nonsense, how he created this myth, in which he, an adult , knew what he was doing. and these then ten-year-old, probably, boys grew up in all this, and they believed in all this. and now, when they

come out of these catacombs or through these forests. these corpses are pulling for them, and sooner or later there will be a very difficult collision with real life for the whole of ukraine, because real life is not a comic book, and unfortunately, to my great and all of you normal people. it happened to ukraine but it happened to ukraine from the first, this has already happened, there have already been races in other countries, when you galloped, you will be surprised that they are not even the first to jump. they are even in this secondary. this is austria. this is exactly how it began in austria, how beautiful everything was, beautiful berets beautiful races beautiful joys beautiful means greetings and very cheerful energy of people who, just like those at prayer, which means some of their own here are these greetings. remember those, here, who have the prayer of their fathers. well, they are no different than they are. they do not differ not in

how cheerfully they look to themselves, when this happens to them, so is the fact that those that these that have today in azov have become, that those who rode before have one end one end, it will still be and the sooner they understand it. so much the better for themselves, because then at 43-45 that now in the spring of 2022 not very creative quite sometimes gloomy e not very glamorous, but very stubborn donetsk lugansk chuvash buryat chechen ingush dagestan guys will come and the races will end and everything will end. that's how it is to be. unfortunately. this ukrainian agony may

drag on, both because their president is from a comic book and his advisers are all from comic books, and because there are those who incited, some from the zero years. that's it, that's all and throw the conversation. how good it is to fight. how do they like to fight, how do they mean? here's what they are. and who are bad? and we are bad, of course, because, against the background of this surrender, this treatment, this placement in normal human conditions, no torture , nothing that will be said against this background instigators and all kinds of western organizations. yes, why will they already say, listen ukrainian soldiers stationed in the mariupol region were degamunized by russian media were portrayed in putin's propaganda as neo-nazis throughout russia's aggressive war against ukraine this characteristic raises serious concern about their fate, as prisoners of war prisoners of war should not be subjected to any forms , torture or ill- treatment. they should be given immediate access to the international committee

of the red cross, this is where the problem of today's ukraine has become a hostage. it’s not clear to all these deputy directors of the amnesty for eastern central asia why they did n’t care about our russian prisoners who for some reason didn’t care about everything up to mariupol now they all perked up they don’t care about it they will lie, because they need to lie now they will say that it was we who dehumanized them and used them in putin's propaganda as neo-nazis. i remind you again, this is taken from a person. the one who fought and was killed on azov became he put this badge on himself, i didn’t put it on him and we didn’t put them on them. they pricked these tattoos themselves, they put on these badges in their comic book , invented for them by all these international organizations and fool zelensky in their comic book. it was cool. and this joke ended with

the fact that for the third day it ends tired, pocket-in the forests near lugansk, and so on and so forth, and this is a real real unimagined world, and sooner or later it will come to everyone and than earlier. they themselves will understand these fighters ukrainians, that the real world, in which there are real real russians, they are invented for them, the sooner this war will end, fratricidal for all of us. the faster my friends in ukraine i know that they are watching us. the sooner you shake yourself off this comic, this myth and this cartoon, the better it will be for all of us, because less russian slavic blood will be shed. and now we have dmitry steshin in touch, who has been watching this for several days, and there he is participating in our discussions of this. hello. dmitry u me to you the first question. that's what, looking at those, uh, who are coming out of there for the third day, and we

discussed it with you. it's yesterday that maybe some of them are there and watching on tv. and how do you know? in general, how they are met, they go out tense and not understanding how everything will be or already from them. it is clear that they know that they will be met here by people who will place them in normal conditions for prisoners in the war, what is their mood? of course, we may be trapped in the truth in some way. we are fine we know what ideas they profess it's all on the body. they depict, yes, in the drawings, but constantly repeating about it, it turned out that we even cut off such a possibility in our minds. how to get published in captivity, and so i think this is one of the reasons. e that they held on to azov steel to the end, well, almost to the very end. well, don't talk about it. we couldn't understand either.

what paradox ah? people from the negotiation group with whom i spoke, there were azov from second-hand soldiers , and they were from the coast guard. well, maybe they have the task was to behave as confidently as possible, as if we needed more than they did. uh, so that they surrender. ah, but then, when the main stream has already begun, and the outgoing plants well, yes, they look. you know how all prisoners are. well, except that their pants don't fall off earlier. here the drowned were always taken away by them. yes, they look at the floor. they are kind of ridiculous. you look very dirty. not everyone lived well there, they had to stand up in some bunkers , it was good there was water and that's it. rest. well, in others there was nothing and really barely doggy feed. by the way, about these bunkers, which i was already told about yesterday. we write quite contradictory things. so they

write somewhere in the telegram that they really have nothing. and where do you write that after all, this is also a military victory , because, at least, the participation of them was with a supply of both water and food and ammunition. that is, in essence. they still represented some kind of military force. and uh, this is the balance of these bunkers, in which there was everything and in which there was nothing, you managed to understand something about it on today the bunkers, where the entire military leadership was, and half a case, and so to speak, people will wing it, they are ready, they were bunkers to fight, which means that the main largest shelters of class one and a2 and the first fits you are a person, the second - 78 i suspect so. yes, these high-class shelters there. they were originally occupied by the azov people. but in the rest of the bunker they listen.

there, the third fourth class of protection is a classification. civil defense can even be identified by low ceilings in the photo, yes, here, and there were people who retreated to azovstal and fled from mariupol, all these wading units. there are broken marines from the 501st brigade. there are border guards from the mariupol border detachment. there really was not, uh, not sweet to eat. today, dmitry is still people who are published. well, their number. as i understand it, it’s already going for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people who have already gone to surrender from those, as it were , secured bunkers, or it’s still coming out of those who are still in such unsecured bunkers. so, i think this information is closed. i am for example, i don’t know, i know the figure at the moment 1.800 surrendered, and according to the very negotiating

group sitting on azov, they began to start negotiations. there were 2.227 of them there. me one of the azov. i personally said that you are still going crazy to find out how many of us are there at the plant. that is, he, as it were, told me that one of the commanders is more than this figure. azova also told me that we have everything , we can sit down, even until the new year, but uh, that means he's talked too much, it was 3 days ago. i will remind. yes, uh, combat wing, combat unit the combat-ready part of the gold is still in position. so today i spoke with the commander of my battalion alexander khodakovsky of the vostok battalion, he told me that, perhaps, the cleansing of azovsk would last a week. or maybe two. he is sure that most likely they left there, and

either sabotage groups, or people left there, who cannot leave the factory under any circumstances, and they are just waiting. and when it will be possible to sit there, but it will be removed, it means that the plant will be, as it were, cleaned up cleared will remain. there's only some kind of patrol police will patrol. here, as with the plant of ilyich yes, which at one time i climbed, there, for example, uh, and i found a room where there were about 20 people. they were still a day, and then they wrote. and god help us break out, and they all disappeared. they tried to leave the factory. i counted them on the calendar. happened. so, when it was believed that ilyich's plant had already been cleared. they still sat there for five days, it seems, they came out, they did not come out. i don’t know, and therefore azovstal will to inspect for a very long time and carefully, i see well, since the first question. we have been

answering for days, which is natural. uh, i think a lot of those who are staying in there now are inside. they could no longer fail to understand that outside, at least, everything was going according to the laws of war. and that for uh, many of them the best way is the best way to get out anyway. i have an extreme question for you. that's gone. and how would you rate the relationship of our fighters, who are present with all this, and many of which, like you yesterday they told the day before yesterday they were fighting, some from the fourteenth year, some from the fifteenth year, many of whom lost friends you told about one who yes, there somehow got into a conversation and so on, but in general, ours, and our different ones, who are present there. what is the relation to these e to these going out, being released into captivity, and to people. what is the atmosphere on our side? look, i am now in donetsk, here in donetsk, or talking to people a little. here are just some of

their domestic issues. i made a car that staggered. that's 4 months of war. and uh, the mechanic says to me, well, dima and how is it that in the hospital on azovskaya, our wounded were taken to the basement somewhere in some rooms in their place in the wards, and put. uh. azov how is it? but yes , i will explain it this way. but i don’t understand, but why they didn’t bring it to our fighters, they didn’t talk humanly that the guys had become any enemy. it 's a life saved. this is not a house smashed by artillery in the donbass and we are obliged to make sure that they surrender and leave, but not only concepts of mercy. yes, because we communicate from them precisely to this human relationship to captivity. in fact, i have it myself, of course,

when i found out about it. uh, who was in the chest. i was at the very first exchange of captivity in the 11th year in september. i saw that our e was carried out, and the militias of the prisoners were immediately loaded by e, ambulances. their legs were already broken in captivity, for example, and the hands of people. yes, and i saw how ukrainian prisoners got out of the zkrusa bus. they were not only well-fed, but also fun walked. everyone else had a huge checkered scores with things and the mother's harvest for them. came in captivity, you know? but we have not departed from the line of mercy for these years, for 8 years. we didn't - we did n't become the same as they would still return prisoners to them in their normal form on all exchanges. well, as a rule, crippled, downtrodden, intimidated people, but we're still here. they’re

different, it’s like they wouldn’t give up, but why do we need this endless war , the offensive moto will agree with you dmitry thank you very much for these words and for ah, for these words spoken from donetsk and for these words spoken by a man who has been in this war for a long time. and because you have now answered for me a lot of people with whom i have been having very difficult conversations for the third day with people very close and dear to me, uh, and my brother-soldiers who bombard me with these questions, why are we with them why are we with them they are with ours like this, and we are like this and yes. i said about it yesterday and i will repeat it today, and dmitry said about it, yes, a lot of this is emotionally, very difficult, emotionally almost unbearable, but listen, my friends, to the words that dmitry steshin told you, who discusses this with our fighters, every surrendered

ukrainian war. even though they stood in azov, even kramatorsk, even in lisichansk, this is in a sense a saved life and the saved lives of our soldiers. therefore, this emotional ardor should be moderated for the time being, because all this is being done, as it is being done, for the sake of the life of our guys. i hope this is enough for you argument, if you really are such patriots, how do you sound? the affairs of germany through the far east there it is quite possible to obtain information about the plans of our enemies. sorge on sunday at the first i do not know in the history of our intelligence that our president was a personal friend to send the country with

which we were to fight. we continue to work live talking about azovstan. i first said that in addition to all the importance of her as e. well, so to speak, information political psychological and so on, given that there there were more than 2,000 people with weapons. and there is still some part, after all. all this also has a certain military meaning. the military component of the victory but what it is, besides the victory victory of 2000-odd people, is a deployed rifle regiment. this is serious power. the one that has remained, because we have not yet counted those that are essentially gone . i think these children who came out, well, or their brothers there will collect the same bags that they just showed, and a pretty

decent amount of the second. yes, i agree here. that they got up from the purges. it will take a decent amount of time, not even for those katak everything else, because something else is under the rubble. and most importantly, i'm more than sure. maybe i’ll stand like minami’s traps, hidden including the bodies of the dead, most likely, therefore, you will have to work with this, you can’t get away, the third moment. we have freed up serious forces ourselves in order to now give them a rest and restore combat readiness. well wrong ability. just completely relax you completely tangible somewhere there to patch up weapons and equipment and already work with dignity on another. but in fact, what will remain after the cleansing is the rival engineering units and, most likely, the national guard, those who should deal with this matter , in essence, there is a third moment now in mariupol you can definitely live in peace for people, without fear the fourth point,

which is serious. it is possible to start rebuilding, not just housing. and the same plant of ilyich, because the city is huge people live and no humanitarian aid is unfamiliar to people, it is necessary work, you have to earn something to do. and it is now quite possible to do so. it is clear that because of the call of steel, they are going to make a square park, i don’t know how it will be called, in principle, the drum. i agree with this. not even because there azov steel did not feel sorry for me, because knowing whose call is steel. i don’t want her to be stopped and then given to someone, well, it’s better to build nearby and say that it’s ours it will be easier and then not puzzle over the sixth moment, which is serious precisely in military terms. we are now we are already they removed the reconnaissance after all. they conducted this reconnaissance. we removed fire damage at a great distance. we can now safely say that we have a guaranteed safe land

corridor from russia to crimea on the land side. by the way, yes, this is an important very very important topic, the one that exists. now it is already possible to restore the roads, the railroad, the railroad, and it is already normal to start a peaceful life, including making a manner of growth, summing up those material resources that are necessary, by the way, a really interesting moment. you just said, i thought that despite the fact that, yes, mariupol is of course blocked and so on, but nonetheless. well, when you go to mariupol , you understand that while you were walking there, this boo-boo boo boo, and if you didn’t sit, it was all such an under-liberation, a very important moment yet. by the way , when did you say that? i thought this is important. forgiveness here is these hostilities. and i have a family, one friend, there are seven sisters. and the three sisters live in mariupol and its environs. and one she is still in the early nineties. she's left. e to italy and now, she calls me yesterday, that is, just imagine her sister calls her from mariupol and

she says, natasha, that this happened to us with mariupol. you may know there. ask artyom, she tells me, and so i ask. what is it? she says, it’s our third day they don’t shoot, the third day you don’t hear, that is, imagine this is a change, that is, people are so used to the fact that something is booming somewhere, that when it doesn’t boom for 3 days in a row, they start, that is, they must begin to get used now to this silence. this is an important point, which concerns, by the way, uh, well, this kind of military aspect. azov began not only as azov stood up, but in terms of the nature of the war, it caught himself thinking that, yes. this is, of course, an important military operation. this is an important military victory. but this is also a very important point to understand. the nature of the conduct of hostilities in general, for which the ukrainian army is ready, in which it more or less manifests itself to him, because, in principle, azov steel is people who they sat for a month and, in fact, fought, without seeing any hostilities. that is, they

defended themselves, they were a kind of threat, but by and large fighting. i mean, wars. call it impossible. now i have a question for you. what do you think, is it possible to extend this idea to the entire ukrainian army, which can do something else in defense . about the offensive some other moment begins. well, you said the key question. here is comrade general, he remembers the war of 1914 very well. now we see that yes, they sit firmly on the defensive, especially when the baron. on what has been done for six years in a row already let's say, when i look at their usual dust strongholds, then ours simply unwind them with ease, because there is no such concrete there anymore. there is no longer there. everything in which you can calmly wait out large calibers and not a single one passes them, no matter how such a real counteroffensive.

we have not seen at all for this all the time, although they announced them. as you remember, they promised a counterattack on kherson. they promised to block it there. mariupol many times arrested. it 's every day counter-offensive. how they announced a whole huge offensive near kharkov in the end, they were able to somehow move forward. it’s just in the gray zone, which we weren’t so much, only our militias were definitely sitting on one thing, what we see now, this is the term you can use perforating their defenses, because we got received during these months. turn the grain army, which knows how to fight the sword, storm, for one moment, which means sparta moved away from mariupol a in exactly a week. she moved the fruit with avdiivka, you understand? that's what is called, really the experience of the advancing, you know, i remember once, when you said sparta i was with the

guys from sparta. you know it there, you go to them . here is where they sit close. that's where they are so charged. what do you already know? here it is ringing. this string was once lieutenant general mikhail georgievich titov the great our front-line soldier, who defended for 2 years in the area of ​​\u200b\u200bthe tver region. he told how they were taught to attack. he then said, damn it, interesting. in general, he says, it is impossible for an army that is defending to be immediately turned into an army that is advancing. ukraine can't do anything else . and you need to understand that this perforation of the defense is their best. what can they do. this means a very serious problem for them, because their gangs are being worn out. combat, as it were, there are fewer and fewer veterans. they usually drive there more and more, as if on men caught on the street who do not really want to fight. we are talking, we are talking, let's say that here we are taking, indeed, two and a half thousand of the most selective, yes, fighters, but we are not

talking about the fact that every day now every day from 50 to 300 surrender, you know, ukrainians in all this very thing, because they simply do not want to die, well, relatively speaking, personnel who fought before, but instead of them comes men who were captured anywhere. we put a machine gun in our hands at the age of these prisoners, these are people who are already well over 40. look yes youth. uh-huh, it's defense. well, so, they are now common old defense, so to speak. they are now introducing terror to the baron in separate battalions. they just pour them into battered brigades, so, of course, now kiev is starting to have huge systemic military problems. because endlessly, again, we all know that all defense wars are not won. we have gone through this many times at different times this question. what goal do you understand, the goal they declared. you are, in fact, one thing which, too, few people will think that they were offered an american. the americans have been developing an active defense strategy in europe for 15 years in

order to restore the soviet union with its army and the armies of the warsaw pact. the goal is to prolong the war. how long can this war go on? they dreamed in europe to start a war on me to exhaustion and impose a war on us, as in the first world war. now they have proposed the same thing in ukraine, they expected that we would die in two months, that we would no longer have resources. yep, it's almost gone 3 months. and we go, we go, we go over , we grind, we have a snack, but we go and somehow you know the mood to go to the end, the mood to go to the end, and the only dissatisfaction that i met with the fighters is the strategy, what will stop? what would it be like to stop and not reach if comrade general, he is just one more question, within the framework of what we asked about, these are two very important points that we may be underestimating. and they need to be valued. first, this is a practical point. but the fact that as soon as we see, we got used to for 2 months, that this viscous heavy fights, that they seem to be fighting. they are so stubborn.

well, as soon as we see. by the way, before that we had a video just now, as soon as we see their attempt to go on the counteroffensive, as it was, for example, as far as i know, under the village of cherry or cherry when yes not far from the walking field, as soon as they go on the offensive, it turns out that they do not know how to do this, in general they get, as i understand it, into the fire bag, and in general it happens. well , it’s not a very good thing, and i immediately add it the second question is, indeed, the quality has changed plus even with the remaining number of the armed forces of ukraine in any case, no matter what the number of ribbons and supplies from europe, the forces are depleted and, most importantly, this human resource is the most important resource, human people are not enough. moreover, it lacks catastrophically about this and is not at all shy about it. and they write. this includes her telegram channels, and the baron's terror should not be underestimated. where she works. it seems to work and it's clear that it's not professional

military. well, as if it still poses some kind of threat , but in any case. this is not azov, with which we suffered for so long near mariupol. this is the first. the second also concerns the attack. well, i would not only walk around the fields, i would take a snake, including, before that there were attempts to counteroffensive. after all, it is not only their inability to fight. here is my ability to fight, our russian army uh-huh, which clearly calculated their plan. yes i read her name - it's when you calculate here how it turned out, of course one spalk of our beloved division , which is located in khankala, distinguished itself. here they climbed the battle formations of the marine corps brigade. they were launched a little bit, parted a little, they put exactly the field. they ran into him. on this they arrived there where it was poor only in the seventies in xix tanks, slammed. well, it's true with three aircraft, which means, well, they were amazed at our aviation, well, a parasite of 16 tanks during a half-day battle. i'll tell you, it's

worth a lot, and if we take masturbation fucks there, the brigade is not simpler. marine corps. their weapons are weaker, however. they are two full-crown btg stopped. most importantly, two full-crown doors were essentially destroyed. yes, it is ukraine. and now, in that direction, walking the field more or less calmly. for the simple reason that they have no reserves left. now, if they, of course, again stuff live meat there and again kicked there in the same direction, but, unfortunately, the result will be even worse yeah, so the first thing is not that our ukrainians can’t attack. and the fact that the russian army adequately knows how to fight. here is the main conclusion which is, but in fact. and now, i would not say that this is already a turning point. there 's surrender to everything else. well, the trend is very serious. and when the 115th battalion won't stop screaming. glory to ukraine will shout the glory of russia then there will be a turning point. the video

will be a turning point. and now here it is necessary to press further and this moment i feel, i understand not far? here's my question, and we've already shown. today these shots. they talk about the basics , they got up about, so to speak, e prisoners, and which surrender and i hope they will continue to surrender, uh, the very human conditions in which we keep them , and arrived, uh, a certain ukrainian deputy kovalev, in my opinion, surname, and arrived, the red cross, that's what i want to understand. you probably follow the ukrainian agenda and so on. did i miss something, or is this the first time that deputies, the red cross, came here to check the conditions of detention of ukrainian prisoners. i have not heard this before, so that they somehow baked about it. do you have an explanation. why is it so here, please, only for the simple reason that they do not stop trying, but present uh, the tragedy is the biggest uh, shame uh,

which so far the military in mariupol present their victory, and they say that this is under the control of ukrainian scouts of ukrainian observers at the red cross and even the un, despite the fact that he denies and now they drive any people there. it's what's called making a picture, this red cross here, it's easy to sell it there to say something, we're in control. here any deputies, we control it. and so they wanted to turn, mariupol, into their stalingrad , and they turned it into stalingrad, but only for, but only for the russian army. e, according to classical history, what is the victory of the soviet e red army in the kings, this is the beginning of a radical change, which happened six months later on the kursk bulge. here. it seems to me that if we take these analogies, let them suffer, they don't lame. this is the beginning of a radical change, and not so much

militarily. how much are you psychological as well ukrainian people, here, who are standing there they are still shouting, glory to ukraine, but they are already beginning to understand, what is the price of victory, what is the price of their war? what they are fighting for is easy to fight for the motherland when it is the motherland which will provide you with something later after the victory, and for what they are fighting for which homeland for which homeland that was sold to the american, judging by what you tell me, which these the fighters who are now captured are once again needed only as reasons for some kind of pr for some new page. here it is here it is here. uh, the defeat that they were thrown and used. like, like, like cannon fodder, which no one defended, and then, like, now they are doing against this background, uh, a good face in a bad game, it comes to the understanding of ukrainian soldiers, this is a very chic example that needs to be shown. look guys. uh, uh, you ask yourself to

be treated humanly differently than you, second, understand the power breaks straw, third, you are not used to win. and even if you win, you will still return to a country that does not need you. you'll be back, sorry if you will return disabled, the social sphere will be killed. if you return healthy, there will be no work, because the country is sold. this is the most important and last thing i want to say today , may 19, the day of the soviet pioneers for zelensky , the day of embroidered shirts, but the people have already come up with the day of the embroidered shirt in ukraine today. do not survive but kick them out of e, mariupol e, and they will survive, i repeat. it seems to me that e rejoice. they themselves say we use both marium and everyone else for a breather. we win, as the painter anna said

amalna is a critical time for retraining. they are at this time. i say again, eh. i wish i wish it was a warning that they still have enough lend-lease forces still working. retraining is going on, experts are staying advisers , instructors, and so on, they still seem to me, no hat of captivating moods. we do n’t have to throw a hat, there’s no need to throw a hat, well, let’s, first of all, we carry out fire damage throughout the entire depth of the territory of ukraine and those warehouses and logistics support centers. we are now, to put it mildly, exploding, if i agree to the end. here we are blowing up and greatly impeding progress. all these weapons here to the territory of the front line. second. well red cross to be honest, i know these friends from experience. this is exactly what mr. decisions need. this scouts are hidden. i understand that half of these e people are with

red, but then i have such a question for you then, no way, general. and as deputies of the state duma yes scouts half of these red crosses yes they use it in their pepper but i have a question. in their own interests, let them create a precedent for deputies of the verkhovna rada and the red cross to visit places of detention of ukrainian prisoners of war to check the conditions. if such a precedent has been created, then why do we not see reverse precedents. and why don't we demand on that basis reverse mirror precedents when your colleagues go there together. let it hurt to spit with these same scouts and check the conditions of our detention. as far as i understand, this is not, as far as i i understand, now the reason for posing such a question. we have it, we will definitely just put it on, but

i am more than sure that they are now putting sticks in the wheel for us. first, all deputies on sanctions. they are not inbound at all. secondly, but they will take us where to show on those of our prisoners who were not mocked. or maybe we'll go there with cameras, yes, together with artem, the question of ruslan stories. yes, a month let's go let's go, we will definitely do this. it seems to me that in any case they need to be put under pressure in this sense. we are now in any we sell this initiative. here, and then we 'll see how it will turn out that now the ukrainian captive is being held as it should be. according to all international legal normative documents, this is true, it is, as it is. this is true. that's what they are waiting for the court, nobody doubts. right now for us for me personally, yes, for a person who was still born in the soviet union, if only some of

khrushchev's hearts did not make mistakes let them surrender, let the war end, then about everything else. uh, let's talk. eh, and at the end of this conversation i want to say it again. yes, we understand that on the other hand, there are fake comics, anything, and so on and so forth, but with all our mercy. i believe that no matter what their goals are, they create these precedents with the arrivals of deputies to check the conditions of detention of prisoners, we cannot, showing mercy to them, not raise the question that we should worry about our prisoners and about our people. i believe that the most important conclusion is one more from this whole azovstal story, that now we have a precedent created by them to raise the question, that this practice should be extended to prisoners on both sides, otherwise we need to put questions differently. time

will tell, we continue to work live. in the first part, we talked about the fact that, of course, what is arranged, how would ukraine actually really be, well, it can be unprecedented in the history of mankind, a bloody theatrical performance staged by mi6, staged by other western intelligence services, in which i am arrested and zelensky are playing their roles. it's kind of a fantasy world, but a very well orchestrated fantasy world. everything is so, but this world is invented this way and the confrontation works this way, and our victory, in addition to victory on the battlefield, is a weapon. it lies in how much we can make our own world. let's just say, honestly, well, the last 30 years haven't been perfect in every way. of course, we have been working on it. well, not everything worked out for us and not as quickly as it should be, as far as we can provide our invented world with our own to oppose our real and perfect it, of course, the best public.

we of our country are already thinking about it. well, here, for example, alexander andreevich prokhanov well, it seems to me that they are posing a problem. well, at the level at which he always poses a problem. let's listen to this. these are very important words. in russia, great changes begin, terrible times begin, a state that was created by gaidar and yeltsin, a country in which friedmans and usmanova were idols, where show business has turned into the art of desecration and blasphemy. it the state also crumbled to us in the conditions of hostilities. we have to build a new economy, an industry, find new forms of management , create a new elite, drawing it from the battlefield and defense factories. we are creating the economy of russian victory. the industry of the russian victory, the elite of the russian victory, the art of the russian victory and such a victorious country is led by the leader of the russian victory. very good correct words and posing the question, well, roughly

speaking, at the maximum level, we must rethink our country, create it, and re-in our imagination and subordinate everything to this new idea of ​​this new country. i read this article yesterday when preparing for the program. e, among other things, i was very impressed with her, i realized that i would start this conversation with her. and at that moment i had a conversation with one of my comrades, who says to me, listen, i've been waiting for spring for a long time to understand, but now we have, when it seems, how life has changed, and everything will not be the same as it was with us curbs, will still shift every year. we will continue to dig one tile and bury another tile. that is as if here somewhere we will change, but somewhere everything will remain as it was. he says i understand everything. that's how life works. everyone has to survive somehow. but maybe something should change somehow in the light of the fact that for many people not very simple times are ahead and those budgets that were allocated for something very important, necessary and

beautiful. maybe they should somehow be redistributed, and this morning i go to work in my district and think, well, something here hasn’t been rethinking yet, you go and see what here, as if in a circle, no rethinking , solid ditches, from which the old curb was dug out and will be buried. experienced new curbs, but it's not just about the curbs. okay there, curbs tiles. in the end, the capital of russia should be beautifully elegant and cozy. i'm already in a different matter, but in other matters of restructuring our lives about how this will happen. for example, he left the country, and the head of one of the departments of the faculty of journalism of moscow state university , ivan zasurs, who for 16 years 16 years headed the department of new media and theory for a moment communications. i roughly understand where and in what direction many graduates of this department and this teacher work for 16 years. he left with an interesting wording, i remind you that he is a journalist. well, of course, a public figure, but

a journalist is a communication specialist. he left because, as if, allegedly, he did not have the opportunity to deal with ecology in russia, he did not agree with the president of the country on the release of methane in the arctic and therefore left good mines with a bad game. well, it doesn't matter, but now the question arises. and the person who will replace him, who left the country due to disagreement with something, will be left with what he will now be found according to some new criteria. since sursky headed this department for 16 years, it means that everything in his work and in his approaches suited . now it turned out that he parted ways with the state and left, and the new one was the next person. will be recruited from approximately the same pool but people or somehow it will be a little different or for example. and i don't know, maybe i'm wrong, maybe it's wrong information, but several deputies of the head of one of our leading state-owned banks, who

somehow so unexpectedly all at the same time. e, well, they took it, so they changed it. uh, they changed jobs and left somewhere, possibly, like many of them had it planned in advance. they have long planned the streets and go somewhere, maybe on vacation. now i have a question the following vice chairs of this. bank of the state system forming they will be recruited and then from the same pool of people for the same criteria, of which these were, which suddenly left and left, like and very many others, or there will be some new criteria. who will formulate them? and where do they come from, we go to another level, a little lower. for example, uh, the minister of communications of the russian federation and digital is somehow called now and the digital development of communications and mass communications of the russian federation maksut dzhadaev. e, she said that the ministry of digital development of russia received an analysis of operators in connection with sim cards. how many left and how many of them returned? well returned. as you understand, not sim cards, but people who left with these sim cards. well, like on

february 24, everything was so planned for them and once they took it and left. now, 80% of them 80 they are back it people, he says that he makes up a significant part of this audience, how happy i would be that it people are more than 2 months old traveled somewhere, returned to the country, firstly , probably not only it specialists returned. some other people returned. and now, for example, i don’t really understand, that is, that these people all left so unexpectedly, and then returned. this is due to the fact that they just stupidly ran out of money, or they understood something there, they yearned there, uh, somehow rethought and returned here rethought. now the question arises. we cannot set up filtration points at the entrance for these people, citizens of the russian federation, free people of the world, and even ask them. well, how do you feel about the letter z. come on, prick from you from the letter z or not there, and whose crimea we can’t on the one hand on the other. we need to understand what it's like to say, well category of people who left. now she has returned

and what is happening to her now should. well probably must and such questions. there are quite a lot of such questions about these new foundations, which must come from somewhere and someone must formulate them. and as it is, everything will happen. this is actually the most important question, no less. and maybe more important, victory. i see you, by the way, there is one more question. who will be like this to the heap, to daughters, after all, this is a question not only for these criteria. it's the same question in addition to the fact that we are raising the question that now our side must somehow conduct an audit. i am speaking so diplomatically about the revision of my place in the world of those international organizations that we belong to. or from which we are withdrawing, for example, pyotr olegovich, so to speak, wrote a

parliamentary newspaper about this. healthcare organizations. and this is also a question. the same piggy bank, these criteria, according to which we are now leaving or staying, do not accept, we appoint new ones to replace those who unexpectedly left, and so on. where should they come from, who should formulate them? here, in fact, this circle question went in turn. you smiled so mysteriously that you couldn't help but start you. you know something, in my opinion, firstly, you are closer to alexander andreevich, this is a different conversation, and igor ashmanov is our driver technology specialist very well. he uh when we're with they recently talked about whether it is possible to somehow make up for the loss of these wonderful it people, without whom we had to die for 3 months already. he would say to an interesting thought that the question is how many are there in total? the verse of those who left was engaged in business, and now for a minute i would like to assume one thing for 3 months, none of our vital spheres noticed the departure

of these thousands of it people, maybe this is rather inert, not inert for everyone, you know, otherwise it would be hanging around now. give give by help out and and so on, because from those areas where truly it people are needed, where they were loaded. but tell me, here i am, well, we are comrades with you. but don’t you think that you are now simplifying a little, and you have some kind of hat to throw on, it’s not a hat for me, they threw it on, how do you know from ukraine? you are two. what's up there? we’ll hit it like that now, they definitely don’t belong to those who spoke the truth. i'm just talking about that, i'm going back to it, you hear, the meaning is. you see the question of returning is somehow right said in what they return, you know? eh, basically. we have the right to check them, as you imagine it is very simple, at least a questionnaire at the border. you understand how you came to treat a special military operation. listen, i

just love it. and what did you do for 2 months in georgia khinkali eat? everything is already here the question is over. eh, the second khinkali ate, why did you come back? khinkali is tired. i want borscht, nevertheless, you understand? uh, there is uh, areas of activity where people who have left have returned to the issue of taking them to work must in this case be taken into account with us for this specifically. you imagine this grid and this verification system in which we can all, well, as it were, listen to what you imagine, it exists. now i can tell you ironically these people at the enterprises where the defense complex is now, where they work now. let's say the state questions will be asked already much tougher, most likely they will talk. sorry, we don't need you. why i won't do anything again . after all, maksud shataev said about 80% of all earlier. here i am not saying whether the soviet union is good or bad questionnaire, were you or your relatives in the occupied territories during

the period so that the questionnaire when applying for a job will include the question where were you during the period from 4 hours 25 minutes in the morning on february 24 before something like this? i think it's already there. i surveyed this without question, but i want to say a little bit about something else. why ivan zasovsky fled is also understandable, you understand, with his wonderful kingdom, heavenly father suited him, you understand without him. all of a sudden it turned out that he has a lot of integrity okay , but mind you, i'm not interested in why he ran away, i honestly understand why. he escaped . i am interested in another question, who will replace ivan for sursky will be a person who will be there for some other reason and criteria that someone will formulate. well , as a matter of fact, all this is actually talking about the key issue, and you are not in this case, yes, you understand the question what will the personnel policy be like now, how will we start selecting people in the country? this is a question of questions about, because if it turns out that those people who are fighting now are fighting, they will

then return here and the official will tell him, but i didn’t send you there, understand? you went through it. he says, if everything is the same now, then we will step on the same rake again, but we have a second. we have a small hope that maybe something changes 2 days ago. you and i in the program spoke in the same lord, not by last name, you can’t imagine the people at peter’s peak like that. in the morning after our program i took mr. mounted police directly from the house i brought yes i asked and received he is nice, according to the law, a good fine of 40,000 rubles. it's like the first warning. so we listen to watch ok there is something in this country. something you said. and now, since we listen and watch and draw some kind of conclusions, as it turned out. now i have the same question for you, if you, as a person who is not indifferent. knowledgeable experience, but an idea of ​​how and where to take the criteria, e.g. for those who left, those who came in replacement. uh, there posts to reformulate some

others. that's how they spend, now they have to budget for something or nothing, and on what grounds we stay in some organizations. what are they wearing? you have an idea that at least the development of these criteria at the state level has already begun. but you really raised a very difficult topic and a topic that will probably be relevant in the near foreseeable future in all these areas. yes, i still want to start, i want to start with people. that's what from my point of view it is unacceptable. so it is impossible to allow a witch hunt and a test solely for loyalty. you idleness should be reasonable limits. you say who will replace and what to be guided by when professionals leave high structures. yeah, unexpectedly and well, unexpectedly, it seems, let's not evaluate their moral and ethical. oh sure. we do n't even give a last name. i don't even name the bank. yes, well, but you can name it, you don’t need to, you don’t need to. it's a pity who knows that not a single bank has left deputy chairmen

board, and several people here. louder, yes, because this is the main one, so that's all the same. it seems to me that professionalism should be the main criterion. which, by the way, was not the main criterion before. artyom can, but before one of the main criteria was, on the contrary, adherence to liberal values ​​in many of our structures, so i would still put real professionalism in the first place. i want to remind. let's look back a hundred years after the civil war in the young soviet government, which had many specialists in complex industries. you will remember how they attracted military experts, but certainly professionals, but who are the future, uh, many officers. yes, they gave the word not to work against the soviet government,

see the difference. and why am i asking this question? and he is no, of course, complex. well, you don't need a lot of swearing to ask him. now it will be returned to me. hmm alexander prokhanov let's move on to the screen now. yes, i ’m talking about what, after all, the question of what alexander andreevich prokhanov is talking about and what he began to talk about, i and the example that was given you after the revolution after the revolution it was clearly articulated that it was so, but it will be so, but it will be so and how it will not be the way it was, because you can argue further, this is because it was true or unfaithful. and today we have an idea about this, because there is something we have left. and where did we come here in a patch, so to speak, shakes his head to look. now here, alexei alekseevich, i can think that you are absolutely right in saying that during the revolution it was said that since it was no more, yes, but how will it be, despite the theoretical works of the classic, vladimir ilyich lenin, also groped in many ways, how it would be

, no one knew how it would be in a year or two . yes performance he after all indeed. you are right, he raises the bar to the very top, he speaks metaphorically, and a little bit about many things. um, repeat to him, but in a slightly more down to earth way. so i am deeply convinced that , of course, we should have elements of economic restructuring, from my point of view, it should become more elements of state planning. this does not mean completely reviving the state plan to move away from the market economy, but i say that the state should clearly set the vectors for more elements. where the business, including to go and give certain goals, tasks and support systems, you can call it a design business. you can call it whatever you like, but perestroika must have one market that will not allow us to rebuild the economy on

new tracks. this is my subjective opinion. understood understood alexey alekseevich the same question. uh, not only about the economy, not only about budgets there . still, where, in your opinion, should it come from, or maybe the understanding of what we should get away from and by what criteria, what we should preserve and develop, should come from, or maybe already. and where are we going , since we now have great changes , change is when you say, well, somehow, here we were going there, it may be necessary, here it is either there, or there, but quickly or there, well, for one well you understand, right? it is, of course, impossible to rebuild the economy on only one market law alone, because mobilization is required, and this mobilization is given with the help of external influence, which is now fully available. i would even say from above, with regard to personnel. indeed, even stalin said that the frame decides everything or bought foreign specialists for gold. so there is nothing shameful here in attracting another matter, that someone,

depending on where to attract, if we attract a strategic industry. this will be a big mistake, because no one canceled the sabotage and now rely on the word that they will work against there is no possibility of our power, because e western values ​​do not imply the correctness of the word. sorry, this is such a reality. as for the it people who left and actually returned, i don’t see any problem, because the vast majority of these people worked by no means in strategic industries, but in foreign companies that actually set such conditions for them , they hung out for 2 months and apparently. it’s not a coincidence that you can work with, so to speak, agglomeration their friends, because for e thin vulnerable soul. uh, it's very difficult for it people to be outside. e of this habitat. especially abroad. yes , you can really eat khinkali for a while in georgia. yes, but you like to eat tomatoes. yes, but not so much. this is exactly what happened to them . now, as for the wonderful mr.

alexander andreevich yes, we are building a new habitat. uh, this new habitat is quite painful for us now, because we are expanding the horizons of our influence and the west sees this. trying to resist it. he's trying to frame us into not doing it, so he's deliberately telling us to listen, well, there's no future for you, there isn't. we have exactly this future, expanding e, new competencies, new expanding opportunities. uh, the new real madrid betania. i emphasize again. let's call it like that, that's all. this gives. for us, it’s not just a certain meaning of being, but a specific specific life guidelines, which alexander andreevich actually described. i think actually uh exactly this is what our western partners are afraid of, then we will realize that we can live without them. okay. oh, that’s right, you can live without them

. we are now at war on every stratum of ours, on every field of our activity there are now people who are being challenged. yes and these months, they are already a criterion for that social lift. let's say we were able to overcome in this area the people who did it should rise further up. look, we were able to achieve, uh, import independence in the electronics industry. here you guys are the future ministers, electrons, we have managed now these months. and there are different opinions about the success of import substitution. we are talking, suddenly it starts to say that, like, no , we are talking not only about import substitution. we are talking about lake farming, which we are talking about now, tens of thousands of people at all levels are fighting for their country by what they organize and develop in their place, and this is the criteria for a social lift are criteria, like in a

war, a commander understands everything perfectly, but he is put forward, but, but you understand that the criterion for a social lift is all perfectly a criterion for a social lift. it still exists. uh, within the framework of understanding what we are building, what where we are moving, we have many times and both of you are directly related to this, spoke about mental warfare principles that, uh, andrei mikhailovich lenitsky formulated many times, where it is said that that mental warfare is that you occupy the head of the people without occupying the territory, and these people are already doing what you need and then the question arises. and how now proceeding from what formulas? criteria for whether we remain in the wto or not . we in the wto would you remain the world health organization, which, well, there were certain questions after the pandemic or we don’t remain, because people who will insist that nothing needs to be changed are people who, well, about one vector, and peter tolstoy and others. who raises this question they are talking about a different vector, and how we between these vectors. now we are going to destroy something on the basis

of what? first of all, it is necessary, first of all, to look at each such issue, what is profitable in our country today, at least in the medium term. and who will watch? listen it's so beneficial. listen to you. wait who will look extremely, clearly. we have bodies of power, both executive and legislative, and they ultimately have to evaluate both the current situation and the proposed decisions to take them or not to accept, again a subjective point of view, but after those, uh, sanctions, theft and other things that the collective west has done, to remain in an organization called the wto i don’t see any point today. you do not see, but someone sees someone, there should probably be a discussion and the majority in this one, which shares this or that position and influences the country's decision on institutions, is authorized. on

making such a decision, there is a chinese model consisted of a simple thing. they entered. right here froze their part of it. here. in fact, this is actually the best option. i don't know why still not technical. you don't, as a matter of fact. yes, yes, that's all. i mean, look. you say freeze. when i wrote about it, well, relatively speaking, i was thinking about it. i'm on telegram. i found such a word, you know, tricky, because, well, you don’t want to leave the imbalance from everywhere, you know, and we are, as it were, independent, because nothing depends on us. i found such a word for myself: receptionist revision. here it seems to me that it is necessary to conduct an audit of the state benefits or harms of presence in certain organizations. at the time of this revision. probably this membership should be suspended in order not to shrug it off. yes, and then, as it were, to watch, though here we return to the question, who will watch and who will appoint the watchers, well, we will continue to talk about this in the following programs. the program will show we'll be

back now, besides, with what we started today and-a to communicate with us, finally went out and entered the communication zone igor kimakovsky, and who, including tonight and not only tonight, was a witness. ah, the negotiations that took place on e have come to an end, and hello igor. how do you hear us and tell everything that you saw and heard from what you can tell, please, well , it’s impossible to voice a lot until the end of this special operation , but some facts can already be seen part of the operation - this is when it’s already on the territory of the donetsk people’s republic a ukrainian delegation arrived in mariupol. it was on the 24th and 25th of april. it just happened on easter. well, in fact, in the first days, i managed to become the guardian to some extent of this event, and i, along with representatives of the

russian army, representatives of the main intelligence directorate of the general staff of the ministry of defense and the ukrainian delegation, were members of the ukrainian delegation. uh, i had to stand uh on the sea boulevard in other streets, uh, on which negotiations were conducted and these negotiations were eventually crowned. and i also told you so casually about it and, uh, we led this our negotiations the russian side was stubborn for a very long time and, uh, certain demands were immediately put forward by the garrison. these were the azov, but nevertheless an agreement was reached. first of all, the civilian population was withdrawn, and only in the last days, the withdrawal began. with the azothalia of armed men and naturally, i witnessed this and not only a witness at some points i had to and what is called help. as they say

in our country, in quotation marks, bring cartridges. and here is what can be said. that's the first day in was with steel, uh, 264 armed men were withdrawn, and the next day 650, then 771 and today, because of that, for one day eh, yesterday, uh, stopped uh, not for long. eh, conclusion. e people with azotali. this was due to the fact that representatives of the red cross came to the territory of the republic, who today work directly on the bridge near azovstal and receive prisoners of war. yesterday they visited, uh, the fifteenth clinical city hospital of the city of donetsk and uh, organized in elenovka. uh, logs for prisoners of war. i am there too was. eh, it's all organized. uh, according to

the arrangements. uh, the most intelligent people in the united states understood that sooner or later it would all break down. ah. they stumbled in iraq in afghanistan now in russia they stumbled. apparently decisive. she sees the collapse of the us-centric world order. i would pay attention. here's to what 's the world's current crisis. e, he sees in two ways, on the one hand, many see a real conflict between russia and ukraine, and here many small and middle, powers. clear. on whose side of sympathy do they sympathize with the little ones, right? well, of course, then they begin to figure out that this little one is actually a puppet in the hands of the big ones, and then a second second bottom of this crisis arises. uh, that this is actually a conflict between russia and the west, and now in the conflict between russia and the west, the sympathy of the main

part of the world community is on our side, and not on the west, and a sign of this is not only a theoretical reasoning, but there is a specific statistical sign of this vote supported in the un - this is just a vote. here , as it were, on the crisis of russia, ukraine and the imposition of sanctions. this is the attitude to the crisis, russia is the west, and we see that half of the country, representing half of the world economy, refused to impose sanctions and are not going to do so. you wanted to say something, i wanted to say something, this whole situation is about sanctions with a break in relations with the west. she is very sad. and for those who are now saying, yes, we can do it, there will be import substitution. yes, they themselves will suffer more than us. i want recall two simple russian proverbs russian people are very wise. i've always known that the russian people, he speaks brilliantly. the first proverb

chicks in the fall consider to imagine the real consequences, both for the european economy and for the russian economy, of these sanctions and counter-sanctions, while assessments vary so much. but who says 3% decline? who says 20 damn, nobody knows. in the fall, the situation will be more or less clear. so far, of course, there is nothing so terrible in the world voice, but a russian proverb, which, too. to me seems to be extremely important. do not spit in the well, the water will come in handy. this is impossible to fully voice on the first channel live. but i'll tell you us. yeah, and we are getting stronger, only there is only one moment, look at the importance. i perfectly understand that the sanctions on the american economy. they don't really hit. it is not particularly connected with the russian, except for critical things, uranium is there titanda, and they hit the european economy hard with their sanctions, because oil and gas. yes, but for a second the ruble is getting stronger, only one at a time for some reason, imports have stopped, and here the currency is not

needed to buy, yes, and exports to the whole we sell oil and gases to europe no less than a year ago. they say even more, yes, and here's what happens if this really stops and we have a problem cut down and they have heating again nobody knows what it means when it comes to the consequences for the american economy as they are to the ministry of finance. and the us janet helen said yesterday literally the following. it is clear that inflation is a concern in many regions of the world in usa uk and also in the rest of europe but we understood that there would be consequences, that we would not be able to completely insulate ourselves from the economic consequences, however the principles that we all accepted when we considered. what sanctions packages to pursue, as i said, is that we want maximum impact on russia

, maximum negative impact, in order to reduce its ability to wage war now and demonstrate military force in the future, and also minimize the side effects for us by transferring into russian from the american diplomatic and financial language, yes, it turns out the following we are ready to tolerate our economy may stagnate. we have prepared the whole world for this, well, the civilized so-called world, if only to discourage russia from ever hunting again, there is a big mistake in the beginning. man, there were russian seasons in france, now russian prices in the united states of america. so i believe that the price situation will continue, because, uh, everything is as boris borisovich really wanted. first, we take care of our economy money stays in the country. eh, there is a rethinking of supply chains, infrastructure is being developed, including transport. i do not see anything wrong with what is

happening now for russia, at least for the west, i see yes, but i remind you that we have been here for 8 years. we are in a tough sanctions regime. we are already trained. but we already have a hollow stomach and muscles are not pumped. and these guys, little snezh, with the increase in prices, boris begins to squeal. boris complained about something recently that he now can pay by phone. and it's convenient. you know the map of the world, or rather, take the world turned upside down. i used to go shopping with my phone. and now i 'll show you a cap. why map the world?