tv Naedine so vsemi 1TV May 23, 2022 1:20am-3:36am MSK
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yes, this whole so-called meeting, it was completely defenseless. we thought that after what happened there would be a collapse of all sorts of assassination attempts. it just had to be done in london and we did it a day later, the entire economic part was on do not drink to drink. and the background turned out the way it turned out, khabarov created it with an absolute, but already certified dutch crook. i remember it was like this. here is the quintessential, such a dutch dacha was cunning, but there is such a simple typology in this. art they had. pass the background that was supposed to
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manage the hardiers himself. and if kharchev dies, it will be arov himself, the chairman of this fund. that is, abarov. all the cards were to manage the property and the collection, as he wanted, when she died there began a crazy ride, and it was unbearable nikolai ivanovich did not sleep at night. well, not well, in tears he stopped walking and refused to wash 24 hours after he organized it were mostly armenian guys. he had the opportunity to somehow live out his unfortunate old age. i got on foot. up to this house. here at this door
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knocked, in my opinion, even kept, and the collection of nikolai ivanovich in garbage bags, as i was told more than bars, nikolaevich was already lying then he was lying, then he had to be lifted up to turn him over on his side. this was my job. there all night, uh, waits on nikolai ivanovich. depending on his mood, he could purposely just not let him sleep. when he was in a good mood, you could even talk to him. he often talked to himself at night, then he simply raved, and then he simply stopped talking to me. learn and said, i'm talking suit. yes, we are all bones lying in bed and crying about how
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everything was stolen from him, but at the same time, at some point, for some reason we stray outside. and suddenly his eyes light up, i would say with such a green and evil fire. and the dying old man is malevich 's monkey, a fucking monkey. well, what to do i’ll go to hell the sixteenth century in quotation marks here and they came from paris and the goat poet and writer and the goat offered him to move to paris with him
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wrote a paper that, so to speak, all previous orders. indeed, that sole heir is a goat. so, you see, a plane was flying away from the goat, and they didn’t call a notary to fix it for me, every step in this house was accompanied by notarial deeds . i understood that yes lies to me, among other things. responsibility for everything is this very meeting, and i had the right at one fine moment to prohibit something, and to allow something. there, some well- wishers said that he was surrounded by killers all sorts of things, this is vadim, like a gas one, i think he was inspired all the time that you should generally take it away. they will destroy you here. i kicked him out, of course. and here is my last visit to
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him in amsterdam, i don’t know what they did with him and gave him some pills, but when i came to him, he could hardly speak. but i managed to say what unpleasant people. here i am surrounded by a purely hardzhey phrase, the more they try to please. the more annoying they are. please note that hmm problem. so to speak, section some kind of inheritance of some money, and there is still blood there, which means that theft is such a hype. if i knew what it was in the face, of course, i would have jumped from the very beginning, but that's not the point. i could not these unfortunate people tamed by me.
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quit somehow. god would not forgive me, but here it is. died i exhaled. here he had these inmates, and there his beloved boy fell ill. his dad came. i’ll sit between him and there was this dad upstairs, sitting on an armchair with his back to him, nikolai ivanovich, covered with a rug. a voice was born. listen. in my opinion, he died, they ran upstairs, he died.
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some bright day was the bright end of an era around the perimeter were private detectives. around full of cossack robbers from the ministry of culture of the russian federation from distant cologne and crooked barns plundered the collections after the death of nikolai ivanovich khardzhev, people who were
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executing his will, a swindler, who is seen along with the bartender played his game. the day after the death of nikolai ivanovich, when i received what is called the crown, i immediately handed over this crown, hi. after that practically. i had nothing to do with this fund. they agreed among themselves to have a priceless collection that was unknown to anyone there, and the heirs except for defense. there was no oversight, that is, this collection lay to be robbed, and there were people who were
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happy to do it. they were already starting to bargain with some other candidates for men , they were selling 55 works from the collection for 30 million guldins, then it is now three 13 million euros. i'm the same woman's husband never never is not that no cases. not me, i’ve never even seen her. the only thing i can tell you is that i agreed with mike in the game that i receive compensation money that has absolutely nothing to do with this amount and he gave me what was supposed to be given, and i distributed it between those , which was supposed to be distributed to me, some part remained. trust me, if i wasn't doing hardji i was doing my job with my contracts. i would
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get more. the fund was created in order to legalize the sale of property. in fact, it was pure a scam that the dutch institute could well have investigated, but they didn't want to. the phone continues to exist to this day. we were faced with the question of how to avoid a very loud scandal and quietly resolve this situation, which she decided, in principle, by nationalizing this fund. because it
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functions. i don't really know how michael developed hi i don't know, i know he had some problems with the right know. i was going to leave for france for a long time and he lives there. i am soon since i left amsterdam i have been living in cambridge since i left here. i just had nothing to do with it. my investigation of the furniture had good consequences, because the sale and robbery of the collections was stopped by the fund, the bath was out of the hands of fraudsters and the collection was preserved and transferred to the museum.
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scandalous criminal, he did not contribute to contacts between the russian and the dutch side , new people came. and these opportunities appeared ; it was, in fact, nikolai ivanovich's dream that that after all the archive was concentrated in one place. i came to me with the idea that you need to publish a collection and moreover, you can even make an exhibition of the idea of an exhibition. i also came up with the idea that you can collect the same, and these same artists, the same names, but dogs from private collections.
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in odessa at the international conference dedicated to the centenary of nikolai ivanovich khardzhev, i met with representatives of the kharshin foundation and introduced us to alexander evgenievich parnis, it was there that day that the first words were heard about the archive which is kept in amsterdam recruited returned to russia in early november 2011. about one and a half thousand documents from the amsterdam part have their place on the shelves
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of the repositories of the russian state type of literature. which began almost 25 years ago , the use of a person who ended up in moscow in life. i believe that this is a unique event, because for the first time the collection of khardzhiev was shown to a wide audience, according to any stories, it was impossible to imagine the richness of the archive that we saw. a lot of things in my head nothing yet fits nikolai ivanovich i was named nikolai in honor of nikolaev a contradictory person, a complex person, an inadequate , biased person, and at the same time,
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art would have moved on without such people. culture, when i came there, began in the ninety-third year, there were no laws, there really were no laws, but private collections nobody wanted a criminal case on this matter, because well, there was an article in the criminal code providing for liability for smuggling cultural art historical archives values. i was summoned to the request of the fsb investigative department here. inquired about this matter. well, over time, all this was forgotten in the
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last interview of nikolai ivanovich, he calls them a gang. i don't even really care. what specific individuals does this gang consist of. at the same time, they did not care that this was not a collection, but a matter of life. just an old blind man, a grandfather who needs to be robbed. here he was robbed. i think they will be rewarded. it so happened that at some point , as an expert of the ministry of culture, i ended up in amsterdam and i were struck by the personal belongings of the harjis, because in these boxes with the archives, the harjis stored, in addition to archival materials, absolutely priceless. there are his slippers, some old
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ghostly kingdom she never dreamed of a day of medals , not of glory, life decided everything for her. at the age of one and a half, she was diagnosed with a malignant tumor of the eye. first, one eye was removed, and a few years later, when it seemed that everything bad was already behind, the second one was removed. fate constantly tests her for
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strength, but she knows for sure from any situation. you can find a way out. the main thing is to never believe in yourself. do not lose heart and do not give up alone with everyone three-time winner of the paralympic games in judo victoria potapova the moment is so difficult. i think, yes, fate was generous with the difficulties in your e life , and here is another of them, this difficult moment, since, as we all know, the international olympic committee decided they allowed the russian team to participate in the paralympic games in rio de janeiro. here. e, for us for the fans, this news has sounded. in general, as a feeling of some kind. well, the very last cruel injustice, as you perceived it in your environment. here are the paralympic athletes. only now
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i saw everything completely differently, someone, well , i perceived that, well, everything happens in life. this is another, like one test. for someone. maybe not very good, someone was very upset, because for them this may be the first last game. well, like all athletes, he achieves this, maybe he gathered all his strength in he endured and came to this, and they took everything blocked russia does not participate in the 2016 paralympic games due to a temporary suspension the paralympic committee of russia is such a blow, an unexpected psychological blow, i don’t know what it can be compared to, because i have a fairly long career, sports and i probably never experienced such experiences in my entire career. the last chance for russian paralympic athletes was individual claims from athletes, but the international paralympic committee did not change
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its decision of almost 270 russian athletes. they were supposed to go as part of the paralympic team to the olympics in rio de janeiro, and they all lost their dreams. when you go you go, you go to this goal through labor through sweat through pain through blood on the verge of already being possible. do you overcome yourself and when? when you hear such information that we are not allowed to the paralympic games, then some kind of emptiness i think that why all this was all in vain for the suspended paralympic athletes were organized, separate all-russian games, the opening of which took place on september 7 at sports facilities, moscow region hmm i can say that ours was removed, yes, when she is worth everything
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no matter the competition, but we will still keep an eye on what will be inferior to the wings from the first. and i understand that it will be painful for me to watch and profusion as they take away. he is my medal. we have surnames, after all, the times, which, uh, are not only known in russia but also known abroad even by vika potapov as a top athlete, respect her and all athletes. which in the world she did not completely take, through the athlete. she won her authority in her name. honestly, well, they took away the dream they took away. perhaps the athletes' medal news a little sad, because i invested everything in it, because it’s a pity that i paid less attention to
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my daughter and just lost a little time that i don’t know, i really wanted for myself. it's the best, how to give everything i can a little bit. that's what happened, it's sad, of course, and there's nothing to be done. i think we'll try something else. i want to quote you from one of your interviews. you said that after the disability that happened to you, you noted for yourself that a lot of people drink too much and i realized that if there were no judo, one could slide into some other level of life, not very good. that is, even you had some such situations in your life when you understood that sport brought you to some other line of life. well, yes, because how is it that a person graduates from school, if he doesn’t enter somewhere, study, we have only one way out to go to an enterprise and
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you can get into some kind of zhen that, if you don’t achieve it yourself, the article is around everyone must do something, well, in such a situation, you don’t achieve it yourself, what should be brought to you on a silver platter, put on a silver platter and say this this is for you, and you yourself will sit at home, at best, you will reach the enterprise, you will do something back home, well, there will be some kind of routine, such a constant and probably it sucks somehow i don’t know, thank god i didn’t get into such a situation. you first had artistic gymnastics, and then there was such a retraining in dudo. yes yes. and why is this such, well, a strange choice for a woman, it seems, as it were. why judo? after all? it pretty tough technique. well, this is such a dangerous sport, even, in a sense, but you have
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chosen it for yourself. tell me that this is not the feminine form of what is translated because the soft way to the soft way. but for me, there was just a gap between gymnastics and wrestling before, too. and in general, what did i get into the fight? this is purely self-defense, because, well, there was a small, small -looking one, probably, she was there for 15-14 years. you had to somehow resist life. yes, yes, because he is the opposite sex. i understood that it was possible offend something to do and had to somehow defend themselves. and that's when i started wrestling. it’s just that some, probably, confidence appeared even that i’m small and not tall and i don’t see it there. it’s like it’s no longer a hindrance, because a person appears around him, probably, like this aura that he, well, not what will hit there, they are unlikely to fight just that you are stronger, how do you
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become? inside, that no one will suit you just like that. let's. we will now listen to judo professionals, coach of the russian women's team under judo vladimir degtyarev a. then we will continue, but to talk, if we consider the question, is it a little hard for you girls, huh? e in dudo then, i would say, so that, depending on who is pursuing what goals at the initial stage. it may look like a game. all this is all fun. it's amusingly interesting, but when will starts to be set, a serious task there is to win the russian and european world championships and so on. it is clear that without so there is such a word plowing, when, that is, a person refuses everything and lives only in this exhausting workout. e is being done. er, that's why it's hard here, of course. it is hard work. it is giving up everything from all the pleasures in life. this is the mode. this is the assembly of weight it is, while maintaining the shape of the development of injury and so on and so on and so forth. it
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's very hard for me, to be honest, these people cause hmm deep respect for people with disabilities and surprise. how is it possible to be limited in something and do some kind of sport, when it’s hard to do it normally, and people who are with disabilities, even more so, if at all we take people with disabilities vision. yes, when this is one of the most basic sources of perception of information, that is, how they can compensate. what resources these all moments have to stay in this sport is a big mystery to me. to be honest, i take my hat off to such people as a sign of respect, victoria has a three-time result, she is a three-time olympic bronze medalist. this is number three. it's very big in numbers. despite it seems that three, but it must be taken into account that the olympics are held by rav4 years and support for these 12 years to be better in the world
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practically, but to pass the selection to gain some rating and so on to perform. this is very this is a big deal, as athletes. it's simple. well, this is the greatest athlete who stayed afloat for three oli in cycles and also took an honorable bronze place at each olympics, like this. in general, words of admiration are your address, but you often say to yourself that you have no talent, sports that you only have perseverance, what is it? feminine coquetry or is it? eh, right? it's too demanding of itself. well i don't know it just uh, in due time, as the coaches said. well , she doesn’t have much talent, but she says, since she is so stubborn, persistent, she will achieve her goal. yes, a long time ago, even before the olympics so you were told, well, even before the olympics, only then, probably,
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a lot has changed during this time, it seems that after all , talent is present in order to really keep for 12 years, and to form and, so to speak, prizes. but vladimir rightly said that it really causes great surprise and, uh, admiration and big question. how do you compensate? this is the source of vision information, because this is a contact sport, in which you need to somehow understand how the opponent behaves, how you do it, so to speak, i don’t know out loud some kind of sharpened, maybe some kind of tactile, different susceptibility. haha. i don't know, it's just from childhood. we are moving and living. so it’s like we ’re not sighted here, they don’t say what i don’t see forever , i’ll watch, i’ll watch the movie, i won’t feel it, i’ll say the movie there, i watched it, i’ll watch it, yes, and how
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it is correct to say that vision is compensated by all the other senses. it just adds more interest. there is touch and smell. mm, the hearing gets very sharp, because when i came to school, i saw, well, i still had my eyesight. i didn’t have much hearing , i won’t say that it developed right to absolute, but it became sharper somehow, it began to hear more. well, more than something to hear such that others do not hear, for example. there on the touch of the hands of the legs, even the fingers of a person. well, as you feel everything, you feel it. yes there every a scratch on your feet is also just what sighted people do not notice. but we feel there even in shoes, if you walk, you feel which path you are walking on, paved on tiles, on cobblestones. uh-huh you're not from the fact that even there the sound is different,
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but here they are to the touch, well, you also feel very much with your feet, okay? you have such a tradition that after eda after a successful fight. you walk on your hands on the carpet. where did such a tradition come from and intelligence is contrary to sports discipline? no , it's already when there is a fight for a certain place. after that, you won’t go out to fight - it won’t offend anyone. it's just that your my emotion is such and once. i said that here i am, while the third one, i will walk on my hands. if i win, then i will try to do something else. that is, some other prospects were ideas. yes, yes, when i sleep, i often dream, what a feeling i get from defeat in sports, if a person
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blames someone for his misfortunes, he is a fool, three-time winner of the paralympic games in judo victoria potapova vic for some reason you do not allow their relatives to travel with you to competitions. why such a tradition? it’s just that i understand that at this moment i’m much more focused, you can’t approach me to ask an extra question, but i don’t really want to roar at them or something else and you lose concentration and you will, well, it’s already somehow different yourself lead. well, at least you call up your mother, when there are some serious competitions at least, well, so to speak, they won back and call. yes, i call, be sure to call everyone when i win. well , i get off the carpet when i have time, i call, i have even srapins took away the phone once after the last olympiad, when i won, and we were already
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waiting for the award, everyone was calling me. i called natar, took away the phone and said representative. how much money will this be? i say i represent, but this is one time such a victory. she should be truly happy. he us now here on the screen there were photographs of your meeting, on which it was written on the poster funtik we love you funtik - that's your name, uh in the team. why did they give you such a magical nickname? you know it when a lot of free time was driving from the competition, and the train there for 30 hours. this is especially before. that is, they even went to competitions. gotta do something. and now you remembered the cartoon about funtiki and distributed the video to everyone. here my roles remained with me, all other roles were forgotten. how about you ? this nickname stuck and so, well, it
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seems to me, surprisingly touching, so very gentle, and in combination with the fact that funtik we love you at the airport. it seems to me, well, yes, this meeting was also at the airport, they arrived there and three discharges. so who's coaching me now? guys with whom? i practice. here she does not know and relatives. there were so many emotions. i was very, very touched. it's great, in general, it's so great. and you generally pay often lately , and more often. why sentimental has become more. probably, we have already touched on the topic with you, what you yourself said that for some time, when you went to school, you saw, that is, from your birth, and you lost one class, yes, very soon. but then you still remember the outlines of this world. yes, i remember the colors and i drew everything even everything is perceived. even now. uh,
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to pass somewhere to present something. well, i have a visual, how the performance goes first, and then i even visually just imagine about the struggle. well, even the fact that you have been sitting for a long time, where you are sitting, as i also imagine visually and everything passes. so at what age did you lose your sight completely. it's somewhere around 10 years old. and now the operation at 10 has already been done. i am always amazed by people who do not humble themselves in front of some almost physical obstacles. are you, yeah we all have trials in life one way or another, but to your lot. they fell out so serious, that is, uh, and you were a child, which helped you not to break down, not to submit, or something to this situation, not to reconcile in the bad sense of the word. i don’t know, it’s probably the environment somehow, because i, uh, initially immediately entered an interdisciplinary school for visually impaired blind children and there were
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guys around me who had never seen at all. and so, how they moved themselves, they also behaved just as usual, as if for granted already, probably, and why do you entered gymnastics, although it would seem. well, there are different approaches, you know, it happens that when a person has some kind of illness, i don’t know. yes, they protect. no, don't go, caution, but sports and eyesight. yes? well, why are you suddenly such an impulse to go to practice? at gymnastics on the internet, they are small. children seven years old need to sleep during the day. and we who want to sleep during the day, no one wants, right? as a child, this is a big problem. yes, yes, that’s where the internet is, the coach just came and asked who wants to do gymnastics. and this just during sleep it was possible, yes, the alternative was either to sleep, or uh-huh everyone went, everyone who wanted did not want to. who did not want to sleep, everyone went, but
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stayed. well, there are very few who remained in gymnastics, and how did your mother react to the fact that you decided to do gymnastics honestly. well, i don’t even know, but i know that they are always with their parents, well, they signed such a boon that they are responsible, well, for vision, uh, well, the parents bear uh-huh, what if there is some kind of complication that parents without it, well it was impossible to do nothing, when the second eye was already removed, everything was abandoned. such pianos, no pianos, you will have no restrictions, do whatever you want and go straight to gymnastics. so she withstood it, because i had to say something, then immediately she was silent. after the operation , i immediately left and immediately sent it there immediately to the gymnastics back. back
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concerned that you should not be afraid, or something of this life, feel as little as possible. this is the limitation that has fallen on you. here more fate does not know independently moved around the city or not? yes, now i move by myself with a sprout. but that's what you did when you were a child, no. here the child even lived on the internet and my mother brought me. uh-huh monday morning for class and on saturday we were picked up. i've only been home for the weekend. well, for a whole week when you began to learn how to move around the city with a cane and in us a cane. this is when i finished school and hid in the subway. and so she walked without a cane, but returned to the subway. after all, in the literal sense, you fell fell, then there are such people in the train in the subway. here they are of the old model, which are very, very buzzing, very such a rumble, such two electric trains arrived from two sides.
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and i was still in a hurry, i was late for classes and there was a lot of peak now, there were a lot of people and just the crowd pushed my shoulder a little and i was off course with i turned the straight path and how the direction changed the usual ones in such situations, i stopped and waited for this one until everything calms down . well, type i won’t stop and entered between the hungry and stepped there with the platform for the first second, i didn’t really understand what happened, because i landed clearly on my feet, and then i realized that i turned around on the rails. i wanted to get out, even wanted to get out themselves. yes, i wanted to get out. she heard the train that was coming, and i grouped up. just lay down. well, how did she sit down, at first she tucked her head between her knees, and then lay down already, right? well, there
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is a very long stopping distance, and as the first car passed , listen a little, well, this is an incredible endurance. i 'll tell you, that is, so orient. this is all about sports. this organization is also a person. this is how he will manifest himself in some situation, yes, and then she behaved calmly enough, you know that vic probably, but i don’t know, there are a-a percent of 80 healthy people, if you had such a story with them, but at least for some time you would be afraid to go there by metro. or maybe even be at home, would sit and not go out. well, that is, as if the fear to overcome oneself is very difficult. you, as i understand it, the only change happened in one thing, that you picked up a wand. not well, why it was very scary, by the way, to ride the subway. i just made it the next day. i didn’t even the next
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day when e, was also taken away at the department, until after didn't come to me. they didn’t let me go anywhere and i just changed at home, because the clothes were gone, they washed very black, i changed clothes, and i just packed up and went, because i knew that if i didn’t go out, now it would be very difficult to do it later, that is, you on the same day went to the metro well, yes, these are already days. what helps me not to lose will in life is kindness beauty, what i think of a person who complains about a stalemate . it just doesn't want to live. if someone thinks i'm worse than others it means nothing become a three-time winner of the paralympic games under judo. victoria potapova what do yours say about you ? friends and acquaintances say that they could
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never have thought that you have such perfect cleanliness in the house. that is, you also somehow manage to manage it, you have also put it into such a strict regime for yourself that the house should be perfect, clean. this is already tibet from my mother. it's like they say disease wash the floors. yes, such entertainment no, well, it’s pleasant, i just like to walk barefoot at home lie on the floor sit on the floor when it’s clean it’s nice much. let's now listen to an interview with your cousin. that's how she is very kind she is, despite the fact that uh hmm limited in terms of other people's possibilities. although it is not. it seems to me, perhaps serially limitless. yes, but she doesn’t, and she is very adequate. and these are probably the two main features that are inherent, and she is a very live loved one. well, she always grew up, as usual, a normal full-fledged child. well
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, really, yes, mom does. maybe, in fact, that is, she always, that is, she always she was brought up as a full-fledged person, and she never intervened that she was disabled. in general , there were a lot of problems against this background. yes, because it was very difficult for her to fit into this disabled environment. and from the point of view of work, for example, and when she already went to work, because at one time she worked at a factory for the collection of lamps, and it was very difficult there, because she was always the first and they always left disability as an example. always simply did not accept it, because a completely different person. she is not inherently disabled at all and you have always wanted to have a country house. they just sold the land. uh, here is the moscow region and bought it in the eyes of those times. there's some really funny money in there. well, there was a period of inactivity, then they decided that they really want to build a house there and there was always something big to see,
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so that the whole family would gather there and when they thought, what should it be like? she just said, i'll take everything. and i collected it from lego, that is, really, here is the photo that is. eh, at home. yes, that is it what she assembled with her own hands, like mock-ups, then, therefore, to the mock-up, they designed the project and actually built the house, and as she says at home with big eyes, so that really large windows from the ceiling. and well, that's exactly what she always wanted so amazing that they put together a house. this is what you need and this is what you wanted so much, yes, so that, as you can see, this house is realized. it 's just in its time. i would like to be an architect. here. well, there must be some data somewhere. well, they know how to do it. it's on
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the level of feelings, because it is so inner. there are people who have professions that they live by and somehow know. everyone is interested in this, just like i really liked to draw a drawing at school - this is for me. well, it wasn't hard for me. we had an agreement, as in a class, they decide for me, they write all the geometry there, and i'm the whole class. hopefully drawings. yes, yes, it was like that. well, i don’t know, i just really liked it, and i wanted to, when here in the moscow region, we wanted to build a house there. i have it, well, in a different way designed. there was supposed to be a wooden log house in something different style. when we managed to buy in sochi often, so i came up with several layouts, this one, but with big eyes. this is my sister now. and that's what the little sister called. dasha is another one. i don't know, this is a dream come true. yes, your sister
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said that you absolutely could not feel yourselves among the disabled, because you essentially do not perceive yourself as a disabled person. she is right in this observation. i'm just trying to do everything i can to try to do. all for this many, probably, so if you want to live spinning. what does it depend on, is it such that you are forced to feel this way, or is there some kind? well, is there such an inner spiritual mood? well, something depends on me. this is how i will treat my life myself, this is how it will develop. yes, this is probably most likely internal and that's education - i think that everything is everything that happens to a person later. it after all, it comes from the family, how they treated me not
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as a flawed person. here, as usual, i also believe that if you want, you have the right to live and you yourself will apply yourself to this. nobody owes you. you yourself, if you bring some kind of joy or something else, such a person, and you get even more from it. well, that is, can you say that, uh, there for some things you are grateful to your mother, what can we say there, she was, maybe, something tough once that she was you, well, how about a puppy thrown into the sea of life and said, orient one yourself, because you live in this in this world. well, as a puppy is not thrown away. yes, she said, what if i'm not here , what are you going to do it was and well , of course, it offended me, i say, somehow. well, you won't be. it just shouldn’t be, in fact, but it should still give such an impetus, and you do 3 years ago, incredibly happy events happened in your life, your daughter was born,
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and you gave her a very unusual name stephanie is it part of someone or just like that liked this turned out. oh well, not that accidentally i chose and chose me under a different name, and then we went to sergius lavra here, sergiev posad and there. here is such a mosaic icon of st. stephen, so i don’t know, something such an intuition came to my mind that she would be stesha stefaniya, in general, the decision to become a mother was also like that for you. ah, one more step. uh, that's the side of life in the sense that, firstly, you had a sports career. there it was necessary to somehow return to the sport. again after having a baby. secondly, in general, well, so to speak, the birth of a child for every woman. this is such a very serious milestone. i've dreamed about this all my life. i thought, they even asked for a very long time, if, well, you knew
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that 100% of your disease would be transmitted, you would give birth. i say that, probably, i would have given birth anyway, because this is my own. i don’t know, it’s just that. dark some, probably, over fish. god didn't do something like that. well, he wouldn't give it to me, probably handed it out. this is my this, well, something like that. yes , this is, uh, such, probably really rare again the test that fell on yours. a-a share that the seated turned out to be? yes that she inherited completely your disease. and when you were pregnant, when you were waiting to sit, or maybe you were going to become a mother, you consulted with doctors , you found out how much there is a great percentage of what could happen. we always say 50 to 50. well, it's actually something
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like this, but many are very late in determining it. well, it turns out very sadly, but in your case, when stesha was born, they told you, that she is completely healthy yes, they said completely healthy, and it was your mother who realized that something was wrong , but i don’t even know about vision, this is my mother. she was kind of afraid. you can say, i don’t know, the neighbor simply came and said, why, well , the child is so interesting. eh, well, the eyes that they reflect like this. well, i don’t know, well, this is a symptom. here, when well, the eye shines, uh- huh, so we climbed into the internet, she climbed and, well , find out, that's what it is. there was something like that and here is a movie for you. it became something. well maybe be the biggest test of your life. by the way, they went down a lot. well, sho was like that, because
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i still hoped to the last. who is this? well, it’s not like that, and, probably, this moment would be my sister, i don’t know what would have happened, because she probably acted quickly, promptly somehow at that moment i even had a few days when i turned off, just like that -the process there is so everything quickly spun. thank god it all ended well. well, that's it, it quickly spun in the sense that you operated on i'm sorry, but as a result, at the moment she still lost one eye, yes, but one eye was saved. yes, it was saved. and now we are constantly watching and driving and i hope that, well, the improvement will be like, well, the vision will improve already, as if there is such progress because now she focuses more vision, as she uses her vision. so i hope everything goes well. and
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why do you say that there was a moment when hands dropped so much? here's the one you overcame, ah, that's a life hurdle. you can share you know how to navigate in this world? what to teach her? even if such an accident happened. well, they just gave up because it was scary. well, how strong is it, well, this progress is strong at what stage already, because there was a very big risk. why did i have to refill odin's eye because the tumor has spread so close to the optic nerve that it is a very big danger. and there they were already walking and what was on the clock. time was already just passing and therefore it was scary. here. eh, as i understand by the way, you collected money for the treatment of cooling down, what is called the whole world, including, uh, the viewers
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of channel one had to do with this first, when we were sent it was generally collected by people. i don't know if there is such a possibility. now it's very big . thank you all, because, well, i don’t know at that moment they were transferring money and i’ll tear my grandparents. yes, even people with whom i have not met for a very, very long time. they are. well, they helped and it was embarrassing even when my old old teachers, they even, well, how they gave money it was inconvenient to take, because i know that they live in retirement or something, but they still somehow took part in this , it was so much. well, such a shock . when we left for treatment, then we joined later. well, my sister was doing this and got involved, the rusfond was already connected, because the sums had already gone very large and, uh, it was impossible to collect such amounts. so you yourself
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know what i'm thinking, and vic, because hmm, there are some people who claim that the world is cruel and turns away and is not ready for help. and there are people which result in a completely different experience. that's what it depends on, right? yes, how do you feel in this world? he is cruel to you or in fact hearty people are ready to respond. anyway, there are more good people and i just say to me that i am lucky in life, that surrounds me and people come more than kind and good people. here in the environment , too, i try to attract more good people. my biggest achievement in life, when i retire from sports, i will try to be a good mother, if i regained my sight, the first thing i would like
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see. coupler three-time winner of the paralympic games in judo victoria potapova now she will grow up more and i will ask her what she will do, but she needs to be quite athletic. it seems to me that she pulls herself up, hangs wherever possible and climbs everywhere on playgrounds, we don’t forbid it, and then, on the contrary, i supported her at first. now she herself climbs everywhere with her in all these, where the ropes are all these ropes. we climbed with her, grandmother, she says, go climb there with her, it’s not useful. vika she knows that her mother is actually a champion. i don't know yet, but how much she understands it. i think they know everything and understand everything.
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sometimes they just can't tell. and well, because her grandmother makes her goblets dust off. so, he probably knows whose cups these are standing here. in general, uh, athletes, even m-m in most sports not in the paralympic team, after 35 years, are already leaving big-time sports. and you have already stepped over this age bar for a long time. and in this sense, you go against fate and you continue to be, so to speak, but a big sport, but you will prepare for the next olympics, i will try, because, again, everything is a sieve. here are the selections. everything, everything, everything, as far as age allows. well, we have a vid. still, this is the look. this is eastern wrestling. the farther, the
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wiser the person and, accordingly, his struggle is wiser. you understand that it's physically much harder for young people to compete, but it's still the way of war. he is older than the warrior who he is wiser, respectively, there are some other things that you can win, how would you comment. that's what our paralympic team was suspended. i think that they say, so that there are no things that are not punished by some. this is who made such a decision, who is to blame for everything. it will simply remain on his conscience. these people of this person, i don't know who came up with it, made such a decision, and absolutely, in my opinion, amazing, uh, irina viner formulated. she said that it was a sin to make such a decision and that those people who accepted it, if
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something bad happens in their life, then let them not be surprised, and because the law of the boomerang works. let them know what, well, as it were, what they are paying for. if suddenly, god forbid , something bad happens in their lives, most people in our country agree with this opinion, because , of course. with all our hearts we are with our paralympic team and, well, we are amazed at the courage with which, so to speak, these athletes fought for our country and are now holding this unfair hit. and i know that you are from our conversation and there i know your biography in detail. you are a person, uh, who is not afraid of the difficulties that come in the thick of life and you are not afraid to ask for help, but you are a beautiful fragile woman. sometimes
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you may need help. e, and there is no one nearby, and you know, we give you, and from our transmission such an electronic cane, the so-called, which gives, uh, a signal, if there is an obstacle in front of you, it can be there 3 m away from it, uh, but it can sense and signal and warn and allow you to bypass. that there is like an advanced gadget. i would say fashionable and advanced. which i think will help you to continue to cope with all the difficulties that if suddenly be in your way, but there is no doubt that you will overcome them. we wish you good luck and a big hello to your wonderful family and your wonderful stephanie who are your main achievement. thank you very much vika he is
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only 7 years old and has already won the hearts of millions of chinese after appearing on local television in an entertainment program. gordey knows the dialect of guangzhou city knows by heart 555 chinese idioms masters the difficult art of calligraphy this miracle child speaks and writes in five languages has a second level in chess sings and plays the guitar perfectly. his biography so far fits in one sentence. born in moscow and brought up in china, where his father evgeny kolesov has been living with his family for almost 20 years. evgeny has four children and each child develops his or her abilities through a home schooling system, individually designed for each father today alone with all the little child prodigy gordey kolesov and his
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dad yevgeny kolesov zhenya hello, but somehow we didn’t really introduce you, we introduced your son to a greater extent, and the viewers of channel one have the opportunity to watch you in the china opening program yes and uh, before how to talk about your unusual parenting style. uh, i would like to know about you in china you skidded. i was 14 years old. i wanted a bike. in the summer , boats sailed along the amur to china. and they told me that in china everything is 2 kopecks. worth and we are so many we think. i took some money with me and went to buy lesoped bought five pieces, really 3 kopecks. they cost. yes i had very little money, i counted one, but a good one uh-huh mediocre. well , five and so i brought four of them and sold them for 14 years. yes, yes, i sold. i had a great bike. and
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so, i it was in june, uh and the remaining july. august while i was on vacation. i went, uh, to china, turned into the smallest shopkeeper, probably from the entire young delegation. that's how i liked it, china i realized that here you can turn around. well, now let's get back to the pride, which made an impression not only in china but already on a million internet users, so to speak in russia is your project, but if the son is a project, then yes, he is my project. well, as if his every step is actually, when we first posted the videos on the internet. i received a lot of letters in order to post more stories, at least 100 people that i know began to learn the chinese summit even more with children, and they all send me questions. how to move. like what do? how are you doing? why are there no guards? what happened to him? where did you share it? they didn’t
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take him away, there are chinese triads somewhere out there. that’s why i’m posting. it's probably more today it's more motivation for other people well, and what are the opinions most often since the internet the thing is, so to speak, anonymous, but to a large extent. uh, you heard about gordey and yourself after such a stunning popularity that has surged. well, not the most partial, maybe some kind of envy present, of course. eh, the kindest of them dad childhood. ugh t-shirt. it is necessary to save the boy knows five languages, and the boy plays chess. at the boy. there is no childhood that you answer or do not go to the answers. well, what does a vitamin answer to this person . go to the doctor, let him make an injection. and gordey, how does he cope with the surging popularity, he doesn’t feel it at all, he knows that to him, where we are going. there the airport is something else there, shops are suitable for them to be photographed. he's used to it, he smiles. he knows he needs a smile on duty pull, and do like this, some are asked to
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kiss and hug there. he says, no, he is called to all sorts of shows after this exit and the victory. and in this show there are about twenty proposals. we got all of them denied. why? well, because it's time. hey producers. it was the first chinese channel, and it is difficult for them to refuse. they found phones. they came. they arrived right at the front door. until then, we need this wave. i need him my son. yes i spoke my project uh-huh and told them. i have copyright and yes, but that's all anyway, when you look, it's a performance. uh, gordey , it seems that, well, this is some kind of light drill, of course, so that here is the 550th region. and they are light serious, of course. try to get your child interested in something. and how long will it last. it is necessary to constantly nurture him , constantly guide him in some way. tell me, please, women, so that a child of 6 years old knows 550 idiotic memory, we develop memory. why, because
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it is needed for languages. why are languages needed? this is the stupid chain that is now built, which means there are seven languages. why do they really why chess also does not need a rubik's cube, there is always some kind of perspective for something. yes , there is development. this is the intellect. this is a human skill. the biggest memory is logic memory and e, building and interrelationships of memory is a quick solution. well, that's all, well, how to say the same thing, it's all connected with a quick reaction. yes, why did we introduce the cube, and gordey really likes to play blitz blitz is when there is a minute or 3 minutes for the whole game and you need to think very quickly and quickly with your fingers work, and he says, like dad, i can’t work quickly with my fingers. so i say, let's try the rubik's cube, motor skills are developing very quickly cool and so he began to learn how to collect a two, a three, a four there. you choose god and why? by the way, how do you explain the question that
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is often asked, i also have to ask, although it has been a while since gardeev spoke, why didn’t he blink, there was such a feeling that he was a little over zombified. he's just very collected. uh-huh and when he concentrates. he really can don't blink for too long. well, plus there is also special forces equipment when you know, snipers can not blink for 30 minutes, so you also learn well, i’ll say no, i accidentally found out i opened the book i read it to me well, you have a very strong military theme. maybe you are preparing for some serious military action. hmm all ready. you personally, as a family, i personally, as a family, and personally, as a person myself, always ready for military operations, for example, motivated him to know many languages, because he said that if all of a sudden, if i'm behind enemy lines, then as a scout i'm here and they never tell me how russian i don't know. i think it's all made up. we watched the movie
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just war and there the guys in german uniform approached, they spoke german to the same guys, then all of them. uh, they shot down and that's it. and he says, papa, who is this? i say it's a scout. i say i want to be scouts. i say they know many languages. let me also know many languages. i say it's hard, it's not necessary. come on than imposed. the most important. yes that's the whole thing. yeah, why are there so many competitions in which gordiev takes part? well, competitions are coaches who insist on chess. uh, andrey anatolyevich baichuk, the seven-time world chess champion, came to train him. among the disabled, there is a very powerful grandfather, and he says theory in chess is one thing, it's all worthless without practice, so competitions are needed. you must stop first . i do not insist on the first place. i say it's aspiration, but you get upset definitely definitely. i say that if you participate in competitions, you must make every effort to be first, second, third - these are places. but what about parental praise, and i
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praise. i praise, i say, well done. you took. third place. it's not exactly shameful. that's not bad. this is a good medal. third place metal. we don't have much in the house, so it will come in handy. and this is for a year. i brought him this love to the first place. here we were at the competition. for example, the first place is crying. it was a long time ago, maybe a year ago. uh there were also some competitions. he literally deflated there in the final, playing at the first board , there were important competitions. so he was blown away and went out and i look at him, i say, what is it? and he has some such eyes in a wet place, what is called you want to cry? no, i say, cry, it will be easier to cry. i directly provoked him myself, he cried and hugged. i asked him to approach this man to remember his face in order to show him where the crayfish will be in the next competition. i want us to be with you now
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got a little distracted and listened to anatoly wasserman because. he was also a child prodigy, and his parents also discovered his abilities in childhood. i myself was the status of a child prodigy with all the difficulties that follow from this. chief among these difficulties i never learned how to work. for a long time, seriously and stubbornly, one and the same among those geeks whose biographies at different times caught my eye very many could not go from the miracle of children into the miracle of an adult, it seems for the same reason, because they were not ready to work seriously and for a long time now. i can give any child prodigy
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only one piece of advice from my own experience. it is very difficult to pass from the miracle of children to the miracle of adults, because adults are always expected to do more than they can give, and in order to meet this expectation, one must, firstly, be able to work not only on what happens by itself. secondly, do not be frightened and do not break if some expectations are not met. bravo well , as a matter of fact, but these dangers that anatoly speaks about, you are usually aware of them a child who is taken care of, who does not go to
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school, that's all, that is, these abilities are there. for every child, of course, of course, just any absolutely i build my system on four pillars. this is a dream. food, this is love and discipline he is accused of all mortal sins, the father of the despot of the boy. it is necessary to rescue the boy knows five languages the boy plays chess. at the boy. no childhood he has his own method of motivating his son to win, and i praise, i praise, i say, well done, you took third place. it's not exactly a shame. but it's good for him son hunted by chinese journalists. they came right up to the entrance, he says we need him, as he and i need a project evgeny kolesov you have, what kind of legal education did you skip
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classes. i was more interested in going to second grade. we have announced a competition for the collection of waste paper. i once walked with my dad, which means that it was in khabarovsk along komsomolskaya square, in my opinion, he showed me the building there and says, it ’s something to build citizens there. the project says a lot here. i say what are they doing here? he says he produces waste paper. it was several kilometers from the school, probably six or seven kilometers, and i remembered about the waste paper, and they gave a box of ice cream to the class. and i'm always the captain of the star. no, i was the leader of the star class rep. i lacked a little brutality at that time. so i went collecting waste paper. i took caretaker. i came i say, hello, i am the captain of the star, and we collect waste paper you have, they said there is at the state farm, i took a wheelbarrow and with a wheelbarrow, so i went loading. and just like that i went like this for a whole week, i skipped classes, but i collected 2 t 100 kg of waste paper alone. and what else
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can you remember from the maximum results from the maximum from childhood or already from the creator, but whenever you like, let's go through these notches in your life. let's go to the institute. i did. i do not know to tell, although 10 years have passed. yes, i was told, then, to 10 years. i didn’t talk about it, so i’m acting as a scout. well, as you say, a scout, he is a scout, so i'm doing it. i. or rather, i made a decision to go to china and my dad says to me, you will go to china, but there is no money for a fee, so if you want to go to china, you enter for free. you go to the south through the competition. here i go for my exams. we had a professor, in my opinion, lanchakov in the department, which means that i am taking exams in his office, two asperantos are sitting, and he is at the table. so i'm for you. well ticket three questions. the first i know, the other two do not. so, i am answering the first question. i
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’ll answer answered brilliantly and i’m dragging it out on purpose the second from the call a phone call, lanchukov takes the corpse. hello, luckily i had a wife. they were about to go to the country. so, now there is a scandal, who why what will go, and i began to sculpt just nonsense. it's just, uh, with another completely different answer , i began to answer and i hear the edges of his ear that he is there, he says so two or three meters i control both his conversation and these two comrades. and they have such things that they do not understand what this guy is doing. he hangs up. i say, this is the answer to the third question. they look at each other at me. about them asks how he answered. i think, well, just tell me something. say it's great. say this guy is great. they say complete answers okay? this is a five. it turns out that you have an
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amazing talent as a combinator. and yes, that is , they remembered where the waste paper was taken from the wheelbarrow, as it were, yes, and so they collected 2 tons. well, that is, you are very enterprising, but this is not knowledge, why would you suddenly, yes, you had such a crazy idea that you should be proud of being the best in buildings. well, i'll tell you one more here is the moment. uh, when i studied in khabarovsk and graduated, uh, and in china at the same time. i then transferred to moscow. i entered the university and in the same year and a year later, i became the laureate of two all-russian competitions for scientific works. hmm, yes, that is, i went into science, i liked it. i dealt with all these cool people there, you are not engaged in science. now you are in business. it is better, yes, to say about children's education, yes, and about children's education, one spy novel and one business book. hmm, three at once, what’s already small, how
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calculated. your program for 5 years for proud of what he should achieve in these years hmm means, well programs, as such i will say some such. here is her unshakable. no, these are most likely landmarks more landmarks, but we must approach languages with a good base for professional study. yeah , since 12. well, now we are learning five he. well, he needs more japanese with italian time is not rubber. i explain to him he wants. well, probably to seven, probably will be uh-huh that's how you need to approach this period with a good base. well, in chess, i guess. there will be some achievements he has something there at the level of a master of sports. you will probably already play so we had plans to do judo, she says she wants to do judo. hmm he likes all these somersaults all sorts of grabs fooling around. yes , in everything you need to be the first, because if a man's such a position. that is, if it's your something you get
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involved in, it's only so it's a responsibility. it is respect for oneself, for one's family, for one's country. if you enter into something, you must die, but make the maximum result. here exactly. you, as a scout, talk like special forces. you know, the main rule of special forces. you don't have to die for your motherland, you have to live for your motherland. let's wean a little now with the pastor andrey balchuk, who trains just, and proud in chess literally from the first minute. that is, we began to communicate, and i tested his chess ability. and in general, they turned out to be above average without a doubt. he did everything very well . he grasped it very quickly, he liked it, that is, he immediately increased his total self assessment. and i did not notice that there was some kind of pride. a special noodle. he's just a very smart kid. and well, i liked how i
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understand that the game itself. this is my talented lady on the key. it seems to me that i don’t see a limit or ceiling for a child’s development at all, especially since parents invest very large intellectual material efforts in russia , therefore, it seems to me what to talk about some limits, i think in chess he is able to achieve the greatest success. i'm not a prophet, i can't say if he will become a world champion, but i have there is no doubt that he will become strong. the idea of home schooling for all children from the logic of more efficiency. yes, you know, we sent them, sort of to kindergarten, but they, uh, they were like there for six months, and all six months they were sick. hmm, i didn't like it. i went to the kindergarten. looked at them there terrible conditions. it's cold there. uh, they sleep there in clothes. i took them. i think okay, i will prepare a
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home program and start studying at home. i looked it up very effectively. it's expensive, yes, that is, you write out the best teachers, well, cubed rubik's world champion. yeah we had the chinese last year in chess. here you go, blue red. okay 12 years for example, or a little earlier, gordey or other girls, they tell you that papa will tell us everything well enough. more. we go with pride to come to competitions. why was he six and a half, milanochka is his younger sister. so, says dad. i want a medal too. uh-huh, i say, well, play tennis there. you are taking. no, i want chess. obviously let's play chess, you definitely like the step - this is a dull boring game. she says i want. let 's get them started. she worked out somewhere together four. coach says it's tight. i say,
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honey, let's leave chess. they are so uninteresting, no, i want to. and so i say it, as if we will deal with it. she comes, says, dad, i no longer want to deal with girls, in general, in principle, a slightly different look. they don't have to be the first to be smart, beautiful and good at cooking. so the girls now how much i remember now. 5 4 one and a half nothing didn't mix it up. yes, and what do they do, which are five and four and a half. i think to a lesser extent, while still knowing the languages, the girls are engaged in milana with agata for him, their main sport is tennis. so they draw with languages unconditionally. the same as the proud chinese english french spanish, and they have separate teachers, that is, in chinese, each has a separate ugu in
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french. they work together ah. english separately, that is, two girls and pride separately and also spanish. why not? his educational system is built on four pillars. this is sleep, food is love and discipline. he believes that you need to win everywhere and always it is a responsibility. it is respect for oneself, for one's family, for one's country. if you enter into something, you must die, but make the maximum result. he finds a way out of any situation began to speak to answer. they look at each other at me, he asks them how he answered. am i saying complete answers okay? this is a five. and my mother is with
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you, i mean, your wife agrees with everything , or sometimes she whines like that and says, children, my the poor and unfortunate are tired of this. no, of course there is no such thing. in general, i consult with her. still, the children are only 95% mine 5% of hers, so i listen to her opinion. yes, what are you saying? and so it’s from what you calculated that the ninety-fifth, and not yours, it seems, that is, not 50 to 50. well, of course , that is, what kind of deal is 50? ha-ha should be clear clear benefit clearly and clearly mom's place in the house mom's place in the house is very high very good. you do not think that our mother does not have a word. mom we have authority, even dad mom sometimes afraid there can be no questions not passed. uh-huh no crocodile ride no questions. i always listen. it's about teaching education. i always but the children know that
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i am generally a moderately severe person, so i sometimes ask her to talk there, as the mood. do you like this teacher? what is he doing? so what's wrong? i myself ask, sometimes i try, but to explore something when it doesn’t work out. she asks, in general, she supports me in all these issues. and what does she do work wife works gave birth to you four children and evgeny works what do you think, i will say the argument of such yulia, she will not tell me so. four kids and you make your wife work scoundrel all over the country spit it out well it really works. well, four, children, of course, well, listen. surprising and surprising mainly, because it was in china that i
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met my husband, i met my spouse and on the first day of my arrival in china i met there. for me, of course, it was fateful. i immediately knew i would see this man. i immediately realized that well, i’m probably going to fall in love with him. children visit our relatives in russia, unfortunately, not often, but once a year we try to take them. our children do not have enough communication here with russian children. and when they come to russia of course. for them there, expanse when, of course, i see pride on the screen and only how he enters the stage. or just as he begins to read poetry or he suddenly won some kind of competition, here, of course, it’s not overflowing through me pride and of course i understand talented child. and it may even be that i am the mother
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of a future star; girls, of course, like russians. there are no questions here either. i once asked him. you like m-m chinese girls. he tells me not very much, i say, why, but he says? well, for example, you compare here you are or our security guard at the entrance, a chinese woman. who's prettier. well, of course, you're an invincible argument indeed. well, if you compare, then there are eyes, who is more beautiful, mom or a security guard in the stairwell? well, you know, that's still special children unusual abilities are the first in everything. they are also very selfish. eh, parental amuse pride. well, well, i'm doing my duty. i develop my children. i believe that raising children is the responsibility of parents. i do not want to hang
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responsibility on the kindergarten of our school. i don't want to come to the parents' meeting and blame the teachers there for something that they didn't do well there . we are his son there or his daughter there or something else, i see my responsibility. in that. this is the main thing, my mission on earth. yeah love the motherland and love the whole family. when proud, he took part in the competition, and we asked him where he was going to stay to live. he said in china, you even commented on it, said that well, of course, he is a sly one, he understood that in order to win the competition, well , strange, you can say yes, and what he would like in russia, but you, here you live in something china is 15 years old, who are these all. well, now, who will get all these magnificent results and fruits of your development of children? the great page we plan to return to russia uh-huh yes, we literally event will take place in the summer. i hope we return. i give you more. we really were about to leave, and at that time we should have already moved. uh, channel one, here we are
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filming a project, they say ergo speaks in kafka tai, i understand, but we have already sent things. uh-huh, you know, we already have things ready for us here, the apartment is already everything, everything, you are coming prepared. live here, continue homeschooling. uh. yes, yes, there will be an external student. we're about to finish e in china . and that means that gordey is working with us at the embassy. so let’s go, we’ll set everything, we’ll get our document for the second class and, in general, we’ll continue, so russia will certainly get the fruits at the end of may, we’re going to the russian championship with pride until 9 years old, he’s seven, but in general he’s not afraid of anyone, we are preparing hard very seriously. he wants to win the world championship. first there will be europe in the fall in september and the world in october. he has good goals. i think i will support him with a battle anthem. he wants to sing the anthem. i taught him. yes , he knows the anthem of course, he knows how to sing it, and he
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says, dad, and when they sing like that, what should i do to sing hymns? i say you need to win the european or world championships, he says, you need to win a lot. patriotic, because there are also girls with very rare names agata milana and yeseni. yeah why are they so rare, but we choose such unusual as a wife a little bit exactly the same, as it were, originality. it is present in every choice you make, from name to name choice. yes , we had a slightly prouder situation, such a difficult one, he was born, by the way, the chinese. uh, chinese he is considered. uh, generally a unique child, because he is an eight in china is an amazing number. he was born on 18.08.008. here for them it is, of course, a magic number. he was born on the 18th. it was monday, i think. a week later, my mother called me, she said he was born, and a week later they called me and said he was dying in intensive care. i
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got ready. we had a joint decision with my wife that she would go to moscow to give birth. they were all born in moscow. so they tell me, i flew here on a plane. he's in intensive care such a blue lump, all in these needles there, and we are still going to come in. well, doctors, they are all cynics to some extent, their work is difficult, and he is, uh, a doctor, the head of the department tells me. what would you like to name the boy? i say, why are you leading me where? i got a little scared. uh, well done there to be here i say, and why does she say this is a slip of the tongue? i say, well, i stipulate. i tell you, she is proud as i say, gordeev in honor of the phrygian king. she was not like us. i say they will. here we come. i looked at my white wife. she no longer speaks there, we went in for some amount of time. i say what's going on? i
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say, why did you spread such a panic? well, yes , the child is in intensive care, he was tired unusually here. uh, well, eats little, eats badly. everything will be fine. i say what kind of pale faces, and the doctor looks at me and understands that i'm playing, that i'm starting to create energy, like dynamo and i are talking about spouses. you look, he is full of strength, but he closed his eyes. but it's okay. i say where i am arrived, if you want to tickle your mother's nerves, then why should i? you look at me, he has already become a gray-haired head because of your tricks. let's finish this quickly, which means, in 2 days, to go eat a boob, in 2 months i'm waiting at home, and they were in such shock, and i stirred them up so much. although i myself was trembling like that. and you know he got better. well, he got better, that's all. and i ate and two months later i had to, everything turned out
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very, very well. and let's look at your girls, look at agatha and milan at the older ones. how old are you? five years? my name is angar, what is your chinese name? my name is irina , how old are you? four what language do you think? in english i think, in chinese my favorite food is soup and noodles. i like to eat meatballs the most. mom, mom cooks delicious food. i love potatoes best knows how to do the best
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. chess and solve math. and who is your best friend? what's the name of your best friend? and china is hot so big. well, they are unlikely to become blondes, so to speak, in terms of intelligence, but really blondes, what a luxurious daughter you have thank you for envy for envy, but i wanted to notice, look best friend. gordey is milan's best friend
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, that is, this is a closed world against each other, and homeschooling always raises the question. next i'm moving to russia now, so to speak, homeschooling . continue on the one hand in children who achieve luxurious results in education, even if they are in school, in general, they study, that is, there are always problems with socialization, and socialization is sorry 50% of success in further adulthood right? yes, there is no socialization, what to do? why is there socialization? and we go on weekends. we will go for walks to play on them, often on a hill, there with the chinese it is another matter that russians and chinese are different and individuals. they have a different sense of humor. uh, different, mentality, kids, a little bit different. i noticed. i watched him for a long time. but uh, we'll come to russia with us. i think that the same program will remain. uh, they will go to the art studio. they'll play, uh, tennis, and there
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there will be kids to run with. well, we talked for so long, looked at the girl, and we talked for so long. oh gordeev i want to see him. so let's finally call him to this studio. come on, he has an opinion about what real women should be, not to be smart , beautiful and cook well. he never shifts his worries onto other people's shoulders. i do my house. i develop my children. i believe that to develop children. this is the responsibility of the parents. he has a clear purpose in life. this is my main mission on earth. yeah, love the motherland and love family everything evgeny kolesov we talked for a long time about your incredible abilities of the most diverse, which you managed to show you, how does it seem that every child has such abilities, or are you still
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special? i feel like i'm more special more special, which you can't. everything works out for me, well done and you get tired, in general i never get tired like that, but all people get tired. you are a robot, i guess. yes, i will touch you. you are real. you quarrel with dad, no, i never quarrel. and even when he tells you that it's not won first place, second. what, uh, what is this? you're not the first, you're fine, right? it's normal to win first places. yes, why? well, what happens to you? when, for example, did you win? so i don’t know when you won something, for example, what was the last time you won. probably i won the candidates for the master of sports, so what happened that day? this was some kind of special day. after i played this tournament, i returned home and had a rest,
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swam in the pool, played with my sisters. and that is, nothing of the kind, somehow, especially the fanfare in i didn't hear your address evgeniy why is that normal? did mom kiss him? this is the most important reward for him. and mom, you are proud of you, she says that i'm done. do you have any plans there? who do you want to become, for example, there are some who are digging a profession for themselves? they have already planned the chess world. this is not a profession. he himself, in shock with a rubik's cube, also took part in the most different championships. can we solve the rubik's cube here, yes? do you know what i propose while gordey collects the rubik's cube to give we will see him another story with irina polyakova
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, also a person with unusual features that manifested themselves in childhood. let's listen. what a feeling at the age of 2 i learned to read at the age of 5 i read the collected essay of jules correctly. then i went to school at the age of 5 in the zero grade, then such people just appeared at school, it was boring. and i just began to do all the tasks from the textbooks forward. uh, thus, accidentally finished, uh, the program of, say, the third grade in six months for the second six months of the fourth hmm in the summer. if so accelerated. uh, she finished fifth and immediately went sixth, which was then changed to 11 years. tired seventh jumping to school ended 13 years old. i entered my head at 14. all the time i had a-a problems that i considered myself an adult. ah, let's say, if i studied with him, i'm 3 years older, i had 10 years - that's 13. i felt like i was almost thirteen years old. yes, because i
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constantly communicated with them. i had interests at the level of this age and mental development. yes, i quite coincided with them, maybe this excelled, but for others. i was still a 10 year old. yes, and how it turns out that you are big to study, but go, uh, take a walk on a visit and go there to the dacha to your peers and small. and this is the feeling of some kind of total injustice. yes, and the fact that and you have duties, but rights? no, yes, well, everything remains for a long time. and there is another very big problem. it seems to me that it comes already when childhood ends, prodigy ends, and then you grow up and suddenly you realize that yes. you quite a successful person. you have a good career, an apartment, a car, a family, no, some. yes, and who is more fortunate? well, you didn't become an
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einstein, yes, you didn't discover a cure for cancer, you didn't fly into space. yes, that is, some of your achievements. they are not of this, but of a universal scale. i would like to wish e not to miss all the opportunities of childhood, not to exchange it completely for learning achievements. because if it ends so quickly. about what irina told us so that i don’t like what she said, firstly, i don’t understand why at 10 years old you go to 13-year-olds if you went through the school curriculum. in general, e of its class. well, go to the expanse, there, natural science according to the teachings a little bit. get some language. well, something that doesn't bring you in. at the age of 13, moscow state university does not push you into this adult life why when you can get around on time with
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everyone, and you know this time to use the horizons for development? this is some stupid rubik's cube , it's not designed. i can see that it's hard for you. let's drop him. please tell me how looks like your happiest day, a magic wand in your hands and you say, i want tomorrow to be my day. here is such a 9:20, my english is like that. then we just have fun, play, there near the house. with us, from 10:00 to 5:00 pm you have fun. well, first you need to have lunch, yes, have lunch, it is very fair that you reason correctly. you are like a real man some entertainment. if i didn’t call you, i had lunch and went to play again, yes so and then what spanish and everything, everything, two lessons a day, lunch dinner breakfast entertainment. this is how your happiness looks
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eugene how often does a proud day plan like this ? what his real day looks like real day looks like everyone 20 get up wash, exercise exercise 8 hours from 8:00 to 9 chinese 9.20 english 10 40 tennis at 11:30 chess. until 13:30 lunch. after that again chess 2 hours 2.5 from 17-15 to 18 and 15 spanish 15 minutes. we have a rest break, then an hour of english then calligraphy to wash and sleep. well we want to say that you are definitely friends of course the incredibles thank you thank you families to give a small gift from
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our program. family pole become please. let's put this super cape on you. blimey. look, that means you have this, by the way, from the rain, of course, this is a super raincoat for you. and here is the letter k. a. here, here are more raincoats for all your girls, because the family is where mom and dad and daughters are, and everything is super. super. thank you very much. thank you. what
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happened to this family does not fit into the usual stereotypes. julia is married. for many years, the couple dreamed of children, but a serious health problems left them practically no chance. the doctors' verdict was disappointing, either adoption or surrogacy, which yulia and her husband could not afford, were saved by their mother yulia elena at the age of 54. she became a surrogate mother of her own grandson, bearing and giving birth to a wonderful boy, kirill alone with everyone elena snegur and her daughter yulia sokolova hello dear julia elena is glad to welcome you to our studio and would like to thank you for what, in general, you decided uh, and share this with us, uh an unusual case, but i understand that up to a certain point you didn’t just hide
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it, but didn’t really advertise it, as it were, such a situation that arose in your large family. we didn't hide. we are just those who were interested, he knew. yeah those who were not interested, of course, didn’t go to me and, well, they didn’t shout to every corner that this is the situation we have and mom. we have a child with us. uh-huh and that's why, in fact, such a decision was made. it was an exclusively financial issue that could not be resolved in any other way. it the problem was mom's suggestion, lol. and how do you like that? in general, it occurred to me, to offer myself as, so to speak, a surrogate mother for my own grandson or granddaughter, then it was unknown. well looking at how they want kids. and you know that i have health and i bore my children without problems. i thought that i could, but still, you know, there are very different impressions, so to speak, but there is age, it seems to me, there is some kind. well, i don’t know, there is an unspoken threshold, after
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which the idea is fixed in our society that well, where to give birth? as they say, well, it's too late. and you were so-so sure, you were 54 years old, when the replantation was 53 more, you gave birth already 54, where was the confidence? well, i don’t know, maybe there was uncertainty. vera vera yes, everything will work out yul and how long have you been trying, so to speak, to carry out your attempts to become a mother, well, 3 years, but let's say very intensively, yes, and the idea of adoption in your family, so to speak, was it discussed or not ? it was discussed when we went through the school of adoptive parents. we collected the documents. so far, we have agreed that we will adopt anyway. uh-huh that is, now kirill will just grow up. and well, a year or two, when he will be, we will already look for and back to collect documents for the adoption of a girl already. why then did you not resist, say, your mother's
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proposal, after all, did you also think that nothing would work out, or what? here, mom at 53, you agreed when mom said, let's try to make mom fall behind or something, or uh, no matter how much i didn’t have vera at first when was the first. he is a transplant, well, i think they will put my mother in jail, how would mom if it’s good there, then well, let it be good, it would all end again. and if it doesn’t work out, maybe mom, as it were, would decrease, that, well, how would she stop offering , she’ll stop having such an idea, but you didn’t scare yourself that mom was still be healthy, the biggest fear is that mom can't take it. yes , this is why i refused, so i was not very much in favor of this idea. then, when the embryo had already taken root, there was already a very big fear on for eight months for the health of the mother and for the
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health of the baby. well, they survived. didn't you have fear? for some reason, i never even thought that something could be wrong with me. no, there was no fear, absolutely i was the fear for the child, so that only everything would be fine, so that he would develop correctly in his time, the only one. what i was afraid of. here, so that everything is fine, and i take an analysis every month every week, and every month there are others. well, i went for an ultrasound every month. yes, it was an ultrasound. yeah, that's it. the week went well. i again began to worry again, then i waited another two weeks and again went for an ultrasound so that only as soon as they told me. well, everything is fine here, everything is fine. it was easy for me again. yeah, mentally it was hard. but you know, in principle, it seems to me, there is a topic of surrogacy and motherhood. she. well, not so long ago , i generally entered, so to speak, into the discussion in our
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society and there is another such stereotype that, well, people resort to it, but there i don’t know broad views. rich people, perhaps who are not they can solve their problems there. but in general there are many more prejudices. and hmm, it's just like that among the people in your small towns. you didn’t fear that the information that you were carrying, so to speak, a grandson. well , it will somehow be subjected to some kind of moral pressure, as someone else. will you turn something? of course, i was ashamed of my state of my pregnancy. i was shying. well, what do people think i am for myself, and if, well, someone met, i immediately explained that it was for my daughter. this is not for myself. this is not my stomach, as it were, yes, but this is actually my daughter's life. but in principle, as i know, we now have some restrictions that a surrogate mammoth can become
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so an outsider up to 35 years old, for your sake they made some kind of exception. well, when the conversation came up about what i want, yulia agreed, i called the center and the director. hey, head doctor. she explained to me that 35 years is the ceiling. well, i asked, i never got sick. i had no problems as a woman. maybe let's try then, she said, well, as an exception, we can, if your health allows, i started drinking hormonal drugs, which provoked vitamin hyperplasia and a little bit. of course, i had two more minor surgeries. yeah. then they already did replanting in october for me the first replanting. that's when the drugs started, when all these people started like that. preparatory measures there was no desire to say so, well, or there suddenly thought that oh, something, i seem to have overestimated my strength. no, i didn't doubt it. only help. now
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let's listen. just your personal doctor, yulia mikhailovna, what she told us, when elena appeared and put forward her candidacy for the role of a surrogate mother, so to speak, of course, they were skeptical about this and uh, one might say reluctantly, they considered her candidacy, because the age of pregnancy - this is such a kind of test for a state of health, even if a person is healthy, but without pregnancy, then during pregnancy various complications can occur in the body. may fail, and at the age of 50 above, of course, these risks are very high, given that she is her age at the time of getting pregnant. you are already 53 years old, even if she is absolutely healthy according to the results of the examination. there are still cardiovascular risks, that is, during
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pregnancy, problems of the cardiovascular system can occur. an exception was made here, because here, probably, see or they use. why was it done? well, if she were frightened, even for a minute she expressed some doubt that will it be bad for me or what? i would immediately refuse, we took a kind of risk, so to speak, took responsibility for this particular patient, because the cases are exceptional and they had no other choice to teach that they could not afford commercial surrogate motherhood. we went for it, but that's how they will come to us. tomorrow. let them say, i want, i want, i want. no, of course we won't. yul, well, we are all talking about you in the sense of how you
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reacted to this, and how did your husband react to this, when you said, you know, my mother wants to give birth to a child for us, she wanted children so much that he said, if she can, if she really wants to, then m let her try, if god wills, so it will be, and your spouse is a newly-born, who does not how long have you been married and happily married? but in general, he always supported this idea, as it were. i had to thin my blood there. he rode and collected 20-30 liters of birch sap, brought it and froze it. here, so that the blood does not thicken, it was necessary so for health, then here he is. this is it, he helped a lot in during pregnancy, than he could morally that some folk remedies that could help mom
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hmm carrying a pregnancy. he is the whole thing. all he could do, all 54 years elena endured and gave birth to her own grandson, looking at how they want children and you know that i bore my children without problems. i thought that i could before becoming a surrogate mother. it didn't take long to prepare. i started drinking hormonally and a little. of course, i brought two more small operations, yulia's husband did not mind, that their child would be born in such an unusual way, he wanted children so much that he said, if she can, if she really wants to, then let her try alone with everyone elena snegur and her daughter yulia sokolova and len i know that there is also a
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brother yulia, uh, your son, and he has some health problems with his joints, here we are , uh, programs, you said that if i could give away my joints there, if only my son was all right. i would give. here is some kind of, uh, maternal sacrifice. i would say some which is all that is possible right up to enduring grandchildren. come on, give the joint ready too. it is clear that there is one. well, what a common phrase that a mother is ready, there in the life of her child to give it to her is pure, it’s true, it’s like a maternal instinct, it’s the strongest, but still, it’s not too much to be ready to sacrifice to such an extent . all for the sake of their children. i don't know, i think, probably, any mother would go for it. that is, you feel your duty, right? i owe, if i can, i owe everything i can. but as
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you met your husband, how we met, well, we met a long time ago 40 so 74. it's 42 years already. yes, we studied together at school odnoklassniki in the same class. yes, then i left this city in the tenth grade and went to my grandmother in another city to live in birsk and in the tenth. i no longer studied with my class and at yulia's graduation when his daughter also studied with yulia in parallel classes. and then on social media. when he registered, we also began to correspond with him. and he confessed to me that he had like being in love as a child. we even
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wanted him with a classmate with mine with one e one woman wanted to marry. yes, they were also needed. i haven't been free yet. ah, they weren't free yet. so we wanted to introduce him, but he refused. he wrote to me. no, i'll be waiting for you then, so i thought about parting with my husband, with whom the desire is very, of course, by that time it's good and it turns out. as a matter of fact, you know that you refute the saying that at the age of 40, life only begins for you, it somehow after 50 ranula in all respects. well, you are some kind of actually, a brave woman, you are sitting such a modest mouse, in general, courage is your car. let's listen now. how did you react to your decision? eh, your loved ones, your spouse, your close friend, and
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your mother, as a matter of fact, there are also other people who react. what is special about the members. overall, he is an amazing person. she is quite. i think she was made for family life. i saw in this man a responsible responsibility when i announced this in her desire to help her daughter. and of course i was shocked. 54 years old is a serious age to carry a child. besides that, she had other concerns. her son denis underwent several operations. it was pointless to dissuade her, of course, she shared these emotions. she says i understood intellectually. that i should give
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this child away, this is not my child, but my heart did not let go, because in fact, you know, she even talked to him, she learned to talk to him when he was still in general. yes yes mother's grandmother's mother, she put her hand on her stomach and somehow a little bit somehow. here he was patted, and he reacted to these claps. for us it was, of course, well, in general, it was not quite usual that we saw and did not see with our own eyes. yes, of course, it's risky when you sometimes watch on tv. how many different cases are there? what dies or the mother's child? and this is what i was afraid of all the time. here she is for you, who is the heroine of the victim, who is she for you lena well,
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the victim, she probably sacrificed, after all, she could have left. okay ok, they did it all. she was seen lying in it, how to say for the preservation. she was on medication all the time. that's it . it's what for sometimes for health, it's not really good? mom, actually your grandmother, your mother’s mother, naturally, also experiencing her own maternal instinct in her turn, was worried that, thank god, everything ended well, but it could end and not very well could be. you didn't think about what it is, well, selfish enough. in general, and the relationship of readiness, mother who speaks but let me help you, maybe i should have insisted that well , now, of course, some kind of hypothetical, because
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, thank god. there are living healthy beautiful. kiryusha was born. mom is absolutely beautiful. how old is kirill now 4 months old? this is what a woman looks like after giving birth. it did not think that well, maybe somehow i went over somehow with the readiness of my mother. well, mom is ready, but am i ready to risk her health like that. i was not ready, initially i and the decision that we they accepted that, yes, my mother would put me up in january, when they put kirill in, he succeeded very hard with tears in his eyes, but my mother called me, you decided. well, here, i can i feel that i can consult with my husband. my husband says, well, why are you so worried about something? i say, well, what if it's scary already. hmm, we'll lose embryos. we can lose our mother there, anything can happen. he but
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if mom says so wants trying is not torture. well, how would he support me. well, not that he supported, he prompted me to say, yes, well it was still very difficult and i didn’t fully realize and didn’t think that how everything would turn out , the embryos would take root, that my mother would have to give birth. damn a. how did you feel? how is the pregnancy going? i was ready for everything, and therefore for me i almost now believe that i easily brought this pregnancy to her. i was not there, there were no toxicosis, as with my children, and with kirusha , there was nothing of toxicosis. the only thing that has been hard for me lately is to walk for a long time. well, if we talk about the moral side, i did, there are difficulties, so say, physiological, which one way or another you overcame with the help of medicine, so to speak, various modern e means, but this is hmm how
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to say, it seems to me, because the lord god also put this mechanism in us, that when we take women, it’s so different recover, this is the connection with the child. and how is it to understand that this is not my child, that is. like you are mine, but he is actually my daughter and actually i have to give him away and actually, that's how you talked about, patting your tummy about. i'm with him right away talked. so, when it was already more than 20 weeks, when there were already movements, then, uh, i woke up and said, kiryushenka well kiryushenka baby, i said in the tour baby, well, i’m getting up, we’ll get up, and he somehow moved like this. i was at ease with him. everything is fine. what to give to yulia. uh, well this is also with his wife and grandson, so love for his daughter. eh, there was no doubt that i was
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carrying a grandson and i would give my daughter so that she would be happy, but when i saw kirill in the hospital, i, of course, had something motherly about me. straightaway played. i was very worried. how will i part with him, but this is for her, as i still understand that this is for her, as a big part, like a son. and secondly, as a grandson, she loves him very much. she is very attached to him. yeah, you didn’t expect this, when you went, so to speak, didn’t expect this experiment, didn’t expect it. but, when i saw what it was like after birth, when i was still walking, my mother, pregnant, i saw how she treated me, i realized that it would be hard for her to part with him even after. especially after resuscitation, when we were in intensive care. it
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got harder for mom. it was noticeable and was, in general, a burden on your soul. the decision to risk the health of her mother was given to yulia very hard, they say. well, what are you so worried about? i say, well, suddenly it's scary already. we can lose embryos, we can lose our mother there, anything can happen, despite the fact that elena was carrying a grandson, she treated him like her own child, when it was already more than 20 weeks, when there were already movements, uh, i woke up and said, baby, well, i’m getting up, we’ll get up, and he somehow moved like this. i was at ease with him. everything is fine. julia saw the experiences of her mother and felt her connection with the child, i still understand that this is for her, as a big part, like a son. secondly, as a
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grandson, she loves him very much. she is very attached to him. alone with everyone, elena snegur, and her daughter yulia sokolova len passed like a mouth. childbirth planned, well, in advance, as i have a gray section. it's always at 38 weeks uh-huh and so i reported to 38 weeks and arrived for a planned caesarean. ufa you also went, yulia did not, they took her. but she herself did not let us in, they said that it was impossible. why yes, well, you can’t, they don’t have it. in this hospital, in their practice, there are no partnerships of partner deliveries, so there is none. and where were you, my we were at home sitting on pins and needles all this time, until my mother called and said you became parents. and
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when the caesarean section took place, were you conscious or not, yes, that is, you saw right away yes, you didn’t do the final anesthesia, i heard the child. i am i heard that he was screaming, even i heard that he seemed to be screaming in his stomach. he began to scream so that such a muffled sound was, uh, a voice, a voice, then stronger, and then they took him away. uh, to another room, they showed him everything, as it should be or not. they didn't show it to me. they didn't say that, look. here is the boy. no. although i was conscious. i thought everything was as it should be. i thought so. so they took him to another room. doctors were already waiting there from the children's department and took him to where the children's department, ends up in intensive care. why did they bring babies to everyone in the evening? well, in my intensive care unit, i also
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remained in my adult adult and they brought children to some, but they don’t bring me to others again in the morning. i don't have it again. i already asked a question. why i don't have it doesn't show. e, with and a doctor will come to you, he will tell you everything, i began to worry. yes, i've gone crazy. i think so now, yes, then they told me he was in intensive care. you can call there. i called me and they said the child is not breathing, that he is developing pneumonia. well, then, of course, i already had a tantrum yulka. how did they find out that kirill was in intensive care? mom called, she said we talked the night before and everything was fine with the child. everything is fine. i am good. uh, the child is no longer allowed, they are not allowed. mom is also in intensive care; she also does not know what is happening with the
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child. but everything seemed to be fine. and in the morning, uh, my mother called us and said that kirill turned out to be in intensive care, he had pneumonia. ugh, that's not so good. as you would like, as well, yesterday we assumed. there have already begun attempts to undertake and in resuscitation. started calling every day there, you know? what every hour, if you call it will be useless and only doctors divert from their duties. moms to calm down, because mom just had a very real feeling at that moment that mom’s attitude had changed, or something to the child, that for a long time there the mind tried to control feelings, and she said. here is my grandson. this is for your son and stuff. what about the minute the child was born, which in fact and the concept mixed up. and what is it that she can’t really distinguish, is it well or is it still my child
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who thinks, she understood this when it became obvious, when we ran into her in the very intensive care unit near kirill. and uh, i saw him, and my mother already, in my opinion, came up for the third time. it was then that i saw mom ’s attitude towards the child, how she stood crying, and how she was shaking, and i understood that it would be very difficult for mother to mother without kirill and i give him and she is more than m-m more sensitive than grandmother grandson. and what did you experience with these kirills? this is my child. all i have will be no thoughts. he will not recover. everything is fine. they do everything that was all right. this is my child, and you cried. i am such a person, i very, very rarely cry from unemotional emotions, especially in those when there is a person nearby who is also feeling bad.
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yeah, seeing my tears. he will be even worse, so we must hold on. well, thank god this story, lenochka you are crying all the time or or memories and happiness that all this is over, thank god everything it really ended well, and here is kirill's mother. earlier, earlier, lena was discharged than kirill, or at the same time, and that is, you still continued to go to eat sterlitamak there 120 km. wow, that is not every day there is all day through the day. and when i was discharged, it was something like me on the day of discharge. in general, i was waiting there, for a whole week, how long i lay, i was all flowing, and when they were discharged, i say, why? well, because they were afraid , no, kirill is sick, yes, that’s what and when he
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was discharged, i think how can he be left like that little tiny one in this maternity hospital. i didn’t understand, in general, for me it was something, the moment came, i had to leave the hospital, and we yulia came for me, and we immediately went from the hospital to the church, wept and asked, then asked everyone at each room, they stood there they begged that everything was there so that he would recover with kirill. uh-huh well, after what time kiryushka was discharged, well, first they discharged him for 12 on the fourteenth day for 2 weeks, and then another week we spent with him in the children's department for the second stage until at home. i'm with kirill. and already exposed already lay. yes, you were waiting. yes, i've been waiting. i already called too. she sent me a photo already. and how did you decide among yourselves, who will lie with kirill when when will my mother see?
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