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good evening, the big game is on the air as the russian offensive in the donbass develops successfully, the tone of the united states approach to the military conflict on the edge in ukraine seems to be changing, of course, arms supplies, including multiple launch rocket systems, continue and the allocation of a 40 billion package of assistance to kiev has not been canceled either , but in recent weeks, there has been no talk from representatives of the biden administration about the victory of ukraine and the strategic defeat of russia; on the contrary , the thought of completing or at least freezing the conflict through negotiations that the conflict should end with negotiations, and not with the defeat of russia, president biden himself wrote in a recent article in the new york times, and then he repeated. the same thesis, at the end of

last week, in response to a question from a journalist, cnn reported citing numerous sources. what is no longer shared the united states is discussing with allies in europe quoting a potential framework for a truce and ending the war through a settlement reached over negotiating table. moreover, representatives of ukraine emphasize the same cnn and they do not participate in these consultations, contrary to the approach announced by the united states, there is nothing about ukraine without ukraine and, finally, washington post columnist david games, who is considered by many to be one of the most informed journalists and knowledgeable interpreters of the white house policy proposes to look closely at the experience of the experience of the korean war of 50-53 and freeze the ukrainian conflict approximately, as it is almost the conflict on the korean peninsula has been frozen for 70 years. in all these materials, the same

idea, namely that the costs of continuing the conflict in ukraine for the united states itself, not to mention their european allies, begin to prevail over the benefits and further prolongation of the conflict will only aggravate the situation, and therefore. we need to look for a way out about how serious this turn is, how the policy of the united states can evolve further, how russia will react to this, we will talk today with the president of the center for national interests in washington if dmitry simons is leading the big game and leonid petrovich reshetnikov, former director of the russian institute for strategic studies, leonid petrovich good afternoon. and dmitry well , although you, uh, have been in moscow for the last 2 weeks but nonetheless. you are, of course, in contact with your american colleagues and friends. and you read what's going on there. so you agree

that the tone in washington is really changing, and if it changes, then how much does it change? seriously. she's changing. that's a fact. you have very precisely formulated the tonality of how much the essence of the american position is changing. it's like they say in such cases, we'll look at this issue a little more complicated, and now okay, have known david ignasheva for many, many years. and sorry for the memoir. you will now understand why i am doing this, and the year 87 was such a year 87. i was already born at that time. and david, who was then in charge of the sunday edition. uh, the washington post called. it seems to me that he just checked out an article and he says dmitriy is a good article. actually. i have another idea for you. before that, he never

approached me with ideas, as a rule, the process was different. i offered him something. he says, would you like to write an article? how should reagan propose to gorbachev? opening the berlin wall and ogly is actually a very good idea, in principle, it will certainly not be easy to implement in practice, because gorbachev will certainly want something for it. and uh, he germany give no going. see how naive i was. in general , they wrote and, uh, a few days later, ah. reagan delivered a speech in which he said mr. gorbachev to him here the word master, gorbachev those, yes, he said, yes, tear down this earth, this wall, and uh, an impression was called. how smart david and i are,

but then i was told that david made another phone without a call. what a wonderful article came out of someone. yeah pay attention to it. and how could the president be interested in doing something about this, that it's very important here that nine people are very knowledgeable, but besides, if i may, a little bit of an activist, and when he gives out such ideas, you don't have to think that he was called to the white house and given instructions to him. this means that he probably has a very good sense of the moment. he thinks it's for this uh, for the approach that he proposes. eh, the time has come, but this does not mean that he had a house, therefore, about this path, but he will fully go, because e negotiating with russia is a little more difficult

than to negotiate with washington journalists. and uh, from my point of view, there are two points that motivate not only david igneishis and there were articles, by the way, very good in the new york times, one of their reviewers motivates people two points the first point that motivates them it's what you said that changed the dynamics on the battlefield. and at the moment i am, unfortunately, decisive in determining negotiating positions, at least in the collective west. public opinion polls, these are the people who in the press in the scientific community are beginning to actively discuss the possibility of more. well , how to say a restrained, yes approach to the conflict

with russia, as a rule, people who sympathize with baidu, or at least sympathize with the democrats and who are very afraid of donald trump, and they look at just public opinion on the topic of the war in ukraine where it is on the list the priorities of the american voter. 3%, of course, 3%, of course, and it gradually becomes obvious that, who at the beginning exposed himself almost as caesar the winner, yes, the suppressor of russia , president putin, who in general is starting to look more and more like a person who, if you want, due to fundamental american interests due to inflation due to the production chain, which in america is very much destroyed, and due to ah growing shortages of a

significant number of goods. well, if you want, ah, it turns out there is no money to control the american border. there is no money, and the american voter says 40 billion dollars. yes there is for ukraine and as a result. i think e there is a desire among people who are democrats to say, no, we are not so carried away by ukraine that we will sacrifice others, especially our internal interests, but i was very interested to know the opinion of general reshetnikov with your experience and intelligence in the analysis. it was very interesting for me to know your opinion, do you think that this change in tonality, which we think, as it seems to me, both dmitry believes is taking place, does this mean that another appears approach to the agreement to the essence of the agreement on

relations with russia to lift sanctions, you know what you said and dmitry started and you uh, there really are these changes and they uh, the underlying reason for them has already been outlined by you. but there is another version. on analytical thought, uh, because uh, changes in dynamics, as you said at the front on the battlefield, it leads. uh, politicians, including american ones, to the fact that the frontline can collapse in the donbass russia can go to the dnieper izo dnepr and even further, so isn’t it better to offer now and work on a truce on some kind of treaty , stop somewhere, freeze it for good reason. you are very cool, you remembered the korean version of the korean war. yes, yes, make this

korean version, because russia will not gain anything from this. we don't just need territories. yes, we are not fighting for this, but a large part of ukraine will remain if it is so agreed according to his plan, which will continue to play the role that it plays the role. now such a ram is in the underbelly of russia. here it will be like south korea under the control of the united states of america, this is an option, like a fireman, just in case , in case russia breaks through this situation. it is close to this, and this will also be preserved, if possible, one more question for clarification. a. and here, i also heard it this way, as i think, like you. eh, i thought. i, in general, this is an idea comparison, uh, who mentioned it dmitry comparison of david ignashas with south and north korea

this is an interesting comparison in general and maybe the right one here is one question of david rottenness, talking about, uh, what a phenomenal success it was, then uh, uh south korea well, first of all, i'm not sure if it's so undercut a little. ukraine will be able to repeat something similar. but the main thing is that, and russia is offering the option of becoming north korea, but isolated under sanctions. here. this is it, this is it. uh, the new positive tone hides no, well, i think that there are people, and you yourself, who are really in favor of a more restrained attitude towards ukraine without planning. here these are options to leave part of ukraine and so on, but there are people who are in the united states in england uh, between these two countries, which such an option does not exclude and does not

exclude, it is still an option in case x when russia will enter the dnieper and such an option will be offered, what do they think. er, will they keep russia under sanctions isolated? well no. well, recently, someone said that the west is birdskoni, so the west turned out to be isolated, because there are other huge territories continents. and we like to isolate. yes, it is not very difficult to isolate russia, i think that you know the united states of america better, but they are overseas and it seems to them that they can be isolated. and we will limit our interests. uh, from europe they remain, they do not go anywhere, and the same germany, the same france and the same neighboring countries of ours. i think that this isolation will collapse we are not we are not the soviet union yes, uh we have uh! uh, now

we have different approaches, we behave differently both in the world and within the country, therefore, it will be very difficult for us isolate. uh, like a country ready, there, uh, some kind of establishment of communist regimes or so on. i think this is a food security issue. it very clearly shows that the isolation of russia is impossible. in principle, attempts at this isolation lead to a global crisis of colossal proportions, as for the korean version, i agree that it can be attractive to the united states. but, of course, it is unacceptable. e for russia, and even the point is not only that north korea is isolated. i remind you that south korea is officially an ally of the united states on whose territory there are american troops in a fairly large number. yes, a little less than in japan, but this is the second largest after japan. if i understand correctly, a negotiated decision is important for russia, and not only is it important. let's put it this way,

uh, fixing some kind of dividing line, conditionally the thirty-eighth parallel only passing through the territory of ukraine, it is fundamentally important for russia to agree on a final settlement, which is unconditional should assume a neutral status of ukraine and a very serious limitation on the nature of the ukrainian armed forces and their, uh, degree, uh, power and on the intensity of military and military-technical cooperation between ukraine and the west, but for russia this is fundamentally important. here, uh, i conclude. i also fully agree. with leonid petrovich , two options are actually being considered in the united states now. yes, the first option is a protracted conflict, and we are talking about what is already ceases to be beneficial to the united states. specifically canoe. well, specifically canoe. well, moreover, both the foreign policy and the domestic policy of the external

poly unity of the west is splitting, here is italy's initiative regarding the peace plan. yes, they didn’t support it, the united states and russia didn’t support it, but nevertheless, the fact that italy came up with this initiative suggests that it is already acting separately than the united states germany talks about arms supplies, in fact, does not supply these weapons to the maximum addictive france wants the conflict to end as soon as possible. that is, every day the unity of the west is cracking, the political situation is even worse at the seams inside. yes, therefore, the prolongation of the conflict is for the united states and personally beaten. on the eve of the elections is bad. by the way, i will note dmitry. in confirmation of what you said that biden is being attacked from the right and left, because on the one hand, uh, the republicans are trumpists, and they do not support the allocation of such a lot of money, and ukraine, in conditions when there is not enough money for the mexican border in conditions,

when there is no money for baby food there for many other things, but at the same time biden attacks and left the initiative of elizabeth warren senator elizabeth warren former. uh, this is a member of the senate from massachusetts from massachusetts , who was impersonating. e for a partial indian and used it that she was allegedly a minority and demanded career advantages and she is a former presidential candidate from a participant in the primaries. uh, by the way, it seemed pretty good at the democratic primaries. here she is. e, put forward a bill, a and demanded that the pentagon has reported and the white house has reported on this forty billion and it has been stated that if this report does not suit, uh, congressmen and senators, then they will not give more money, because again. yes, there is something to spend money on. so, this is one option the second option. and this is generally, uh, russia is decisively winning, but ukraine is going much further. then it will be to the dnieper. and

maybe every day for the biden administration, it will be just a disaster, so, of course, the biden administration. i think will try somehow resolve this situation now. that is, it seems to me that after this and this change in tone, first of all, there are changes in assessments. and after a change in assessments, changes in politics can already follow . then e price changes. here i completely agree with this. what i don't know about is whether the biden administration has the political will to go. that's some serious concessions, because to say, well, uh, let's limit our ambitions in

this conflict a little and not demand a complete defeat of russia and they said that it should be so complete that it should be obvious and humiliating, except for the humiliation of russia and so on. yes, that will agree to return irrevocably. well, now it’s clear that, in general, it doesn’t look like this is going to work, therefore, well, there is a share of realism. what is called glory to god well, if we talk about real concessions, if we talk about any settlement lifting sanctions, maybe gradually, but reliably and not some peripheral sanctions. and those who, as it were, consider russia to be the most serious for themselves, again, i’m not sure about this, and i wanted to ask him both the situation that you mentioned to dmitry about food. just a few days ago they were talking about how evil bad, russian criminals are robbing

grain in ukraine and trying to make unfortunate people in africa and asia starve to death. russia is incredibly, and noble. i would say, even almost philanthropic position. they say we are ready to allow ukraine to do this without any preconditions. i will tell you this as a person. uh, thinking in the schools of realist politics, i still think that we are russia, but something else wants to at least remove some really practical restrictions on the export of food fertilizers from russia. it's not banned on as you know, it's made very difficult by the insurance of the cats that are refused by sudan who want to transfer. okay, so i thought such a gift from side of russia to the collective west, not just africa, and suddenly zelensky says no. no, we won’t do it through belarus, we won’t carry it. through

mariupol by no means, but what about through odessa and russia seems to be saying that it will not interfere with this. putin said, yes, we will let it through, yes we will. ah. erdogan said he would send his warships. and this still needs to be finally agreed with russia, but it would seem that turkish ships, they would provide, but so that there would be no provocations there. and suddenly that says ukraine no. how do we know that putin will not use this to attack us in our odessa, but i have a question. if you are not ready to accept even a gift from russia, how can you negotiate and how seriously you can take it under these conditions. willingness to show minimal flexibility in negotiations and dmitry in one thing, i

do not 100% agree with my opinion. when he conducts consultations with ukraine and consultations before negotiations with russia, this is what he was talking about, that there will be no negotiations on ukraine without ukraine, and this is not is happening, as far as i know, and when it comes to what were the negotiations between the allies, from which the second zelensky demands almost more and more gifts in the form of the most modern weapons that threaten to search for a conflict, it would be very strange for him if the western the allies did not talk to each other, at least about what weapons and under what conditions they would supply in ukraine, and dmitry is a brilliant question, but i will start from the first with the thesis about sanctions and freezing. i don't think it's a coincidence david is now writing to her about the freeze scenario,

not the settlement, because the scenario. the russians are settled. that's how you precisely formulated it, because the scenario is a freeze and not a settlement. allow the biden administration not to lift sanctions. allow the biden administration not to make concessions. for what? of course, there is no political will, especially on the eve of the elections. yes, and then he will say, well, the conflict is not resolved. russia is occupying, allegedly. yes, he will use this word part of ukraine, so everything sanctions will remain, maybe even increase sanctions, but at the same time, the conflict, and from the point of view of the interests of the united states, will be frozen. that is, they want to freeze it so that the situation does not get worse for them. she won't get better, but she won't get worse now about, uh, food. and, firstly, vladimir zelensky showed the whole world today that he is not

interested in resolving food. problems he is interested in getting weapons, because today it was announced at many levels and russia and turkey that a preliminary plan has been agreed, how to withdraw ukrainian grain from odessa yes, and turkey well, in accordance with this plan, turkey helps to clear mines, accompanies ships to neutral waters in the black sea, further russia accompanies them to the bosphorus yes, everything is fine, turkey guarantees that russia will not try, uh, to use it to attack odessa and at the same time, that, uh, weapons will not be delivered to ukraine through the port of odessa, which is also opposed by russia it would seem that there is an agreement lavrov is flying to ankara the other day, finally, so to speak, finishing touches, uh, already put. yes? well, here it comes out zelensky says no is unacceptable. and we

won't allow it. we need against. strong missiles only anti-ship missiles, uh, will settle chris well, i think everyone understands, yes, what is it, uh, talking about, and who really cares about food security. and at the same time, russia, by the way, to say, yes, it plays a big role, a much bigger role in the world food market. rather than and ukraine and about ukraine, we are talking about 20 billion-million tons, russian export potential is 50 million tons. yes. and at the same time, the baytan administration says that no, we are not going to lift sanctions against russian ships, which yes, dmitry, you are absolutely right to make it difficult, in general, they make logistics difficult for the delivery of russian russian grain, and not to western countries. as for gifts, it seems to me, dmitry, that this is not a gift from the west. and even more so, his gift to me, of course, is a gift

from africa and not from the west. middle east countries and one of the largest importers of russian grain is egypt, and for russia, in the context of the collapse of relations with the west in the conditions of the hybrid war that is taking place now, relations with africa with the middle east with asia are of paramount importance, of course. russia positions itself as a responsible player. uh, in this area dmitry is brilliant and convincing. i didn't specify who the gift was for. well, here, uh, of course, again, being, uh, a representative of the realistic school of politics. i would still be in the place of the russian leadership. yes i would say something to facilitate all these agreements. you will ease the situation for us with the export of our food fertilizers, which, in general, is very easy to do, even without lifting

formal sanctions, it is very easy. i want to ask you. well, you know, in this whole concept that we have just dismantled, there is still one, uh, link, and which, in my opinion, as i imagine it, raises suspicions our leadership has a degree, after all, uh, of independence and independence zelensky with such statements. i still think there are some hmm, people, some center, to which zelensky tells how to behave, may not be a biden, nor his closest entourage. we know what a center is. no. hmm, well, i guess where i used to serve i know, i guess that's what i meant to say. i guess that's how i don't serve now. and i think our president also takes this into account, that we already know that zelensky does a lot on

tips or yes, who, after all, dmitry and i’m not such a big americanist, but it seems to me that the united states can conduct such a double game. e, with one side. talk about looking for a freeze, a truce, or something like that, and on the other hand , zelensky. and you do it like this, you know, uh, leonid a lot of years ago. of course, you have already been born. i was a consultant to the national intelligence board as well. more precisely, i made a reservation of the council of national intelligence fathers. it was then the highest analytical body, not the intelligence intelligence. we had such an absolutely wonderful person who was from the office. yes, that's what it's called. how to say. the main analyst

for russia is a former colonel jochkov. and that's always intellectuals gathered there. there were a lot of all of us outside experts there, and you know everyone knew. what should the united states do? and what should the cia say, uh, to the president? it was the first borscht. and george always spoke. where is your evidence? and so i have always been very careful since then that i express an opinion that i myself cannot document. i don't know how exactly the interaction is done. e between zelensky and an american. i don't know, i know one thing for sure, that if the united states actively did not want zelensky to make such statements, he would not, he would not make them. yes , that's for sure. that's for sure. this is what we are convinced of.

i think it's very important to be told that the russian leadership understands this, and i would like to hear from you two as parting. so what should russia do about this? russia must fulfill the goals. this is the gennessification of the demilitarization of ukraine and the part that remains ukraine if we do this. and i think that under zelensky, who became the personification this trend of militarization and nosification. yes, we destroyed azov mariupol. he is now in kharkov . this is not a detachment of the regiment, this is a system. it's just a system. ah, the nazi system. yes, many of us are confused. many consider as a nazi. uh, zelensky jews, he can’t motocin can nazism that nazism was direct him against the jews, against the slavs

against the gypsies and this nazism. here it is directed against the russians, there is nothing like that here. uh, we have ukraine, as they say, first of all, right? well, dusse, and while we zelensky zelensky negotiate. i am i think this is hmm impossible, but on the other hand, and unacceptable for russia, changes should take place there, people who are really not only unconnected, but critically condemn. it is this nazism that condemns cowardice, condemns this line for an attack on russia, the creation of anti-russia from ukraine. this is what started it all. e, i'm sorry. you helped or even led the creation of anti-russia from ukraine, especially after the fourteenth year after the coup. but personally no. you no, of course, absolutely. no, god forbid, if it was more americans like you, i ca

n’t let dmitry, but let you not finish this conversation, uh, your opinions, because for our viewers, maybe it’s unknown, but besides, you are now someone you now a tv presenter. in addition to teaching a very important educational institution, well, in addition, you are advising the russian government and have recently prepared a very important and attract a lot of attention, including in the government, a report with recommendations on relations with america. i understand that this was before special operations and much has changed, but still your opinion, and my opinion is that russia, firstly , needs to complete the special operation. secondly, uh, russia needs to be strengthened even more, and relations with the non-western world, not only with china, but also with india with the strange brix with the strange africa with the strange middle east and both. they will further

strengthen the situation that we spoke about today, that the costs of the current american policy will exceed the benefits. and thirdly and this is very, very important. it seems to me, at least implicitly, since their trace is not possible today, but negotiate with the united states according to certain rules and red lines, because, nevertheless, the threat of unintentional escalation is quite high. and now i see certain positive prerequisites for this explicit agreement, or at least mutual understanding, like er. and what these red lines may consist of, dmitry, you probably noticed that vladimir putin in his e, in a recent interview with pavel zarubin, he reacted very calmly to the supply of american missile defense systems to ukraine. yes, he said that this does not change. e the big picture. and that ukraine makes up for losses and, well, actually russia takes this calmly. and most importantly,

that ukraine does not shoot at e. using this rszo on the territory of russia a. if yes, then there is something, what does this statement say that we saw the willingness of the biden administration to adhere to certain restrictions not to substitute long-range missiles that hit there at 300-500 km and russia, too, respectively, yes, well, i didn’t see any hint of escalation in the current situation in putin’s words, but he didn’t offer to drink champagne either , but he didn’t offer to drink champagne, and he said another very important thing, that if the united states will supply long -range missiles, but then, uh, russia will hit targets that it has not yet hit. and now this is a direct containment of the united states. yes, such an implicit understanding of the red lines is extremely important dmitry leonid petrovich

thanks a lot. for this very interesting conversation and see you again dmitry thank you very much, and the big game will return in a few moments. it is already very difficult for her to resist pressure from such a large country. she is the leader, since the united states can easily appear there, anything and a missile defense system and new bases. and if a new putin strike complex is needed, a film by oliver stone today on the first impression that in order to formalize one's existence, one needs an external enemy of communication actions for wanting to call. now

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the park, because an apartment is now bought on m yard. on the air of the big game in the united states , not only the tone is changing, but their conversations about how to deal with the ukrainian conflict are changing and assessments of the prospects for this conflict, and more and more voices are heard that ukraine not only cannot win . uh, this military conflict, but most likely doomed to uh, military defeat. here is what he said just the other day speaking at the council on foreign relations. this is one of the most prestigious american think tanks. uh, in the area foreign policy and international relations steven tweety is the former deputy head of the us european command. look

, i think the danabase war is turning in favor of the russians, they don't put a lot of combat power there with infantry and tanks. they got their artillery and that's how they succeed. russia has a hell of a lot more combat power than the ukrainians and there is no way the ukrainians will ever destroy or defeat the russians. i will say more ukrainians will never have enough combat power to kick the russians out of ukraine well, how will the end of the game look then vasily borisovich you agree. and yes, you can agree with this, you need to understand that it’s still very difficult, and for a long time the struggle is a war of attrition, but as it happens doubly at attrition. it already indicates an advantage. we see that the ukrainians are sending uh to the front, uh, weapons coming to them from the wheels. here. usually the interval between shipment and

appearance in the donbass is a matter of a week. we see that fighters are sent en masse territorial defense, which is not the best prepared for this. uh, we see the recognition of large losses, uh, from the ukrainian leadership. zelensky himself said that in the donbass from 60 to 100 people were killed and up to 500 wounded per day. losses, that is, and this already means some fracture. this does not mean that it can be ended militarily quickly. uh, it's a heavy conflict, uh, but uh, ukraine is not visible at the moment. where could she get additional reserves. e, nevertheless, yes, it is launched the machine of such mobilization, but ukraine does not have the demographics that the countries that fought in world war ii had - it is a country with the lowest

birth rate in europe and, uh, large human losses will be hard to endure by society. they are much larger than ours. it seems to me that it is very important to understand here that if we are talking about a war of attrition, uh, then ukraine has already been exhausted militarily and is rapidly depleting in demographic exhaustion. yes, she abandons recruits. she throws terbats, and on the battlefield, but the collective smell is already depleted. yes, in europe there is by and large nothing to send ukraine and we see e with what delays? with what reluctance, for example, germany, uh, supplies weapons to ukraine yes, and, uh, politically yes, not necessarily militarily, but politically, they are depleted from the united states, this is what we talked about, uh. literally before the break, that the costs

of continuing the current american policy begin to exceed the benefits that they receive, that is, they are politically, a deplete faster. i mean the collective smell of what russia is depleted of precisely in political terms, but you know, if we are talking about arms supplies, we must look at their current problems. beware, they have problems with small stocks and limited production capacity, which they will now begin to expand there in a few months. eh, different types of technology in different ways. this may start to bring results, but the problem is that these weapons are not reduced to weapons. there are questions about the state of the ukrainian economy and infrastructure. there, the ukrainian leaders named various figures for the monthly budget deficit. but it is there from 5 to 7 billion dollars a month, which they simply need to give out in

order for the state to function, because the economy has collapsed, the real costs of initiating this war from the outside have collapsed. they are even more of the west, that is, it will obviously be more than was spent on iraq, for example, together with afghanistan. it will be strong there more than a hundred and 120. i think there are billions of dollars a year plus. uh, conflict is strong pretty factor. rising prices exacerbate economic problems in the world. well, within ukraine itself, uh, mass unemployment, impoverishment of the population, a food crisis, uh, the sowing campaign was carried out in a reduced strong volume due to the fuel crisis, the fuel crisis is a little stabilized there, but the blow to the economy is serious, that is, the supply of weapons and military equipment, which are supported in such a way or otherwise, it is difficult to shut up some of the problems without it. ukraine would not be able to fight at all, but hmm, a lot of things

can’t be solved by this aleksandrovich you agree, that ukraine in its current state from an economic point of view is not wealthy. and how much money from the west will it take to keep it afloat? well, we can already see from the tranches that ukraine receives from the european union and the united states that there is a decision to support economic ukraine , and i think that this support will continue to be another conversation about what to turn dollars into euros. uh, so to speak, in some way to finance some goods. it will be rather difficult to maintain the economic situation, including supporting the social sphere there, because this requires power resources there, the same opportunities for providing the country, for example, you speak with materials, which is now a big problem, as we see and in principle, of course, it is clear that money does not

solve everything here, that is, it is material resources that decide. and ukraine has big problems with this now. i fully agree, but nevertheless the hybrid war continues, and it continues in many environments and one of those media, and a very dangerous environment is, uh, cyber ​​sphere a is the most such gray area in international security, because there are no rules of the game. and no, understanding the red lines, a and c. at the same time, this area is already being considered as a full-fledged theater of operations, but only last week. we discussed, uh, the statement. uh, general paul's sensational statement on cassone. this is the head of the us cyber ​​command and what the united states is doing, in including offensive cyberpirations against russia and these are military offensive cyberpirations. and today, he is an ambassador-at-large. uh,

special representative. russian federation on international cooperation in the field of information security andrey krutskikh actually accused the united states of cyber aggression against russia he created an army to carry out computer attacks against our country an attack using information and communication technologies on critical infrastructure facilities. in russia, they are constantly increasing. in such conditions, we have no illusions about the administration's readiness for sound pragmatic negotiations on international information security; however, we do not recommend that the united states provoke russia into retaliatory measures. the rebuff will certainly follow will be firm and resolute. however, the outcome of this mess could be

catastrophic. after all, there will be no winners in a direct cyber ​​clash of states. leonid petrovich it seems to me. this is a very important statement that speaks of the seriousness of the situation. and, because with the help of cyber-means it is possible to cause strategic damage to the state. many uses of cyber means can be perceived. how is the first strike? well, for example, an attempt to blind the satellites, yes, turn off the missile attack warning system. i don't know where to produce explosions at nuclear power plants, and after all, a cyber strike may be followed by a non-cyber strike. and kinetic strike. and so, when andrei krutskikh says that there may not be winners in a collision, i immediately recall the formula, and about nuclear weapons. why, in a nuclear war, uh, there can be no winners, therefore, it cannot be unleashed, but this is a very tough statement, and it, apparently, reflects the real situation,

indeed, the united states and their allies declared cyber war on us and they did not declare it, they they just say that such a high representative says that blows are being struck and in the plural on the most important ones says that apparently we are you and we will now answer here what you said with ames, uh with dmitry savims. uh, red lines. no, we did not agree on cyber security. so far nothing has worked and uh, we are talking about international information cooperation in the field of security, but there are no agreements, so the situation is very dangerous very dangerous and uh, i think that we will have to answer very seriously. otherwise , they will be able to strike us with long-term

consequences. e, but again, e in all our reasoning should return to the battlefield, the more successfully we carry out the operation, the more likely we will achieve results, of course, without throwing people at the machine guns on the tank, but, nevertheless, competently acts by that. uh, perhaps it is impossible that the possibility of the us desire to start another cybervan with us will continue and will, uh, slowly change to go down, that is, uh, it's important here again to return to this battlefield and the war of attrition in ukraine, we must keep in mind that we are fighting with small forces, our uh, viewers, our people sometimes forget that we are fighting with very little force, uh, on this territory and we achieve such results and uh , depleted primarily after all,

ukraine is a war of attrition, they are russia. although there are also problems. but we need to decide now, of course. uh, donetsk to find a solution to this, so that the shelling of donetsk would be stopped, it is necessary to find a military solution, the real solution is here, but again lux with cyberwar it will be easier if we solve problems on the battlefield. well, cyberwar. uh, it's really very dangerous, because there are no rules of the game or no front. no, there is no line and front here, indeed, and also actions performed in cyberspace. they are characteristic of both the situation of war and the situation of peace. that is, it is an absolute absolute gray zone even in the current tension. you don't know anymore, do you? is it military as well?