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evening. my name is timur eremeev on the air, the program is actually a studio in which it is impossible to lie at home, razbegnevskaya demands that the surrogate mother return her son to her. on march 3, anastasia isaeva gave birth to a child and since then they have been hiding with him from the socialite's lawyers. last minutes, preliminary polygraph tests anastasia isaeva 1.5 months. she categorically refused to participate in the filming of the beloved singer andrei grigoriev apollonov. tamara voropay said this girl kidnapped her child. no, the scandalous broadcast of october 2021 was planted on you, it was in our studio that tamara first admitted she and andrey grigoriev apollonov, who is younger, lover for more than 20 years will become the parents of their child, the surrogate mother is so happy. then anastasia accused

andrey's former lover and claimed selena mayer attempted on the life of an unborn child. this girl came to the house, well, to andrey and tamara nikolaevna in general, she brought a cake with tea at 2 o'clock in the morning. i had sharp, sharp pains. my stomach hurt. and they called me, they took me away soon, and now she herself was at the center of the scandal, having given birth to boys in early march, anastasia secretly left maternity hospital and stopped contacting 700,000 when it took root badly, they paid you a month and a half with lawyers and the police, and the socialite was looking for a girl and her son. will through the court she has a child and money to try. we will try to take back tamara says she rented an elite apartment for anastasia and paid 5 million rubles for the services. but now she does not think about money and wants to take her son alone from a

surrogate mother. where is approaching the studio she agreed to a meeting with tamara only in the presence of a lawyer, but she does not realize that a few hours before the shooting, the socialite found out the shocking details of her personal life. hey, worry about the kid. yes, of course, love andrew. i don’t know right now the loud revelation who the biological parents of little maxim are. good evening. today you are here because of the situation that has developed as a surrogate mother of your and andrei grigoriev's apollonian child. what happened to our nastya, that is, the mother who was supposed to give birth to a child, which we bought an apartment, which, as it were, was being courted all this time quite a lot, but before childbirth. she got a million and a half, besides, of course, a lot of things. they introduced

their money so that she could eat better, so that of course i would follow this. so i understand correctly that anastasia gave birth to a child. yes absolutely right. she gave birth on the third of march. she gave birth to a child, that is, the birth took place a week earlier, but the birth was very difficult. eh, of course they didn't let me in. she gave birth for 12 hours, that is, it was all the water did not break, and that's it, it was very very difficult for two boys. how you wanted gave birth to boys absolutely true, but according to my connections anyway, i found out that she was supposed to be in the hospital for a week, but after four days, despite the fact that it was very difficult for her to give birth. she left the hospital and, moreover, she didn’t go to the apartment that they bought for her, on volgogradka, but she left in general for the moscow region and didn’t even know we came to the hospital.

i came first, but she didn’t, that is, she left. she had to lie down. there are still 7 days to meet the completely fourth day of commission. absolutely right. she took the child and left. i understand, that you have access to this child no no, of course, you know, i'm just tired of fighting already, not that i will fight, of course, to the end for my child. but what happened is generally in no framework. yes, she is a child, she gave him her name, at least they wanted to call him vladimir, she already called him maxims. excuse me, as far as i know, the surrogate mother on the child's birthday immediately transfers it to the biological mother, given that, i say that 4 days, which means she ran away, that is, she had to lie. i was sure that for 7 days just saying on the seventh day, how would she plan to give you a child, as she told you absolutely right on the fourth day. she

just ran away right she did. then she ran away, because maybe she will grow up as a normal good person, because it is unnatural to raise a child in your family. this is generally the insanity of pure water, what you are doing understand, this is obscurantist, maybe, uh, her maternal instinct has woken up. that's what i think, and rightly so, and you need to think about grandchildren. you see, this is the most important pension. she already needs to think high. she needs to raise her grandchildren to eat, took care of this, froze the eggs, found a young husband, however, you didn’t play the wedding. yes, as far as i know what those questions are. is it an isolated case in our country or what? it is not necessary. your need to think of an adequate normal person. i have a young man , you understand, is this normal? denis tell me

please. yes, if there were sitting here, a man of the same age as tamara, who would have been born child absolutely right, you would tell him the same thing , she needs to think about retirement. this is what i always talk about. children. this is the lot of the young, you know, they need to play the cossack robbers to go down the hill. is it really in her old age will the cossacks robbers play age. it 's a quote, dummy. sabina needs to educate her grandchildren and pass it on, wait. i don't agree with you, because she says everything about the fact that egg donors can be anyone, a married or unmarried woman, like any married or not married man, and in at will, provided that the surrogate matter for-e is a written voluntary consent. we'll go through

the terms and conditions. today, i think. seriously, tatyan yes, of course, this is an emotional outburst about grandchildren and great-grandchildren, it’s all nice, but there is federal law 3 2 3 paragraph fiftieth reference number one, and the fact that in this particular case the kidnapping of a child can be regarded as a criminal offense this time, but second, stop against. in what case did a woman give birth to a child become ruled by law she is the mother of this child, despite the fact that it is not biological, mom remains. well, according to the law , she cannot take her own child after giving birth, but it is considered to be a bet, as far as we know now, lawyers also connect a surrogate mother. even if she is a surrogate mother, she can keep him at any time after the birth of the child, as far as i understand no , and the fact is that in the legislation of the russian federation there is no special law that regulates

surrogate motherhood. and only individual the provisions of various laws fixed in one way or another regulate this, for example, the fifty-fifth article of the family code tells us that in order to register a child for biological parents, a written consent of the surrogate mother is required for such registration. if there is no such consent, then the biological parents can not write down this child for themselves . she understood, felt my maternal instinct woke up. i didn't want to. she give it away absolutely with natalie agree. there is no law that can have this child with her. but as far as i understand, this is the case when the surrogate oil, which she planned to give up her child. at some point, she sees this child, yes, and that’s all for the 9 months she was carrying.

feel at one with him. yes, i'm a man, it's hard not to talk about it. yes, we have specialists in the studio today, yes, if by dna think if it is confirmed by dna, what exactly tamara is the biological mother of this child, what prospects for this business? in this case, natalia is very, very vague, because, as i said earlier, there is no special law regulating it. the fact is that if tamara goes to court, she has such a right, and the court will consider various nuances, including the violation of the terms of the contract that was concluded between tamara and the surrogate, one of the grounds for the decision to leave the child for the biological mother may serve as the fact that, for example, a surrogate mother, violating the terms of the contract, demanded additional payments not stipulated by the contract, and so on and so forth , it is impossible to say unequivocally what kind of solution it brings in the fact that the russian federation is one of the few

countries. which allows e surrogate motherhood, but there is no single approach to this. i can only say that the prospects are very, very bleak specifically for tamara, i already felt it in the end, how much money was given to him, say she received 1.5 million, and then let's because a million. she got here before giving birth, but peoples yes, then i'm sorry received this money. yes and you did not conclude an agreement with the clinic for no, there is no support for childbirth, we had an agreement. and since nastya is such a good girl. it's not that i'm sorry, some kind of bold that i'll interrupt. she is good, we heard from you, one and a half million. peoples. this means an elite book of sprues that went through childbirth. i understand correctly. well, yes, of course, what else after that, she received another

3 million 800. what about treatment for that health? yes , to what happened to her health. yes and something else issued. i no longer remember andrey there, here he is later. i'm not in the past program. you just supported her, as if a month ago you pledged an apartment, yes, well, as if we agreed, we take everything from the child and that apartment, which has long been registered for her, that is, anastasia understands that she will not receive this apartment, but still it is important moment is not ready to give you a child. well, you somehow communicated with her, you mentioned that you came there with the police with lawyers with lawyers, but directly dial the number somehow blinks. she keeps running away. she she me with i didn’t communicate with her, so that those same four days here

at lana’s home, you are calmly waiting. e, when 7 days come, i didn’t know where she was, so i’m waiting, they started looking for her, which means i’m waiting in one place. we arrived at the apartment. i was sure that she was not in her apartment there. she has her own somewhere in the moscow region. there is an apartment there, that is, people connected it, like how it is like this, so she left and sat and waited. of course not, but what do you think happened? why did anastasia suddenly change her mind about that maternal instinct? you know i think yes, what does she have it? yes, as far as i know, they don’t even give children to surrogate mothers, and they don’t show a newborn child, so that you don’t avoid, just the same manifestations of this magic, so that they don’t breastfeed, so that yes and a please tell me before the birth itself. you didn't notice. well, you know someone, how they handed out a pregnant woman there, here's something like that. no, absolutely exactly absolutely everything is calm. why was

there no fear? eh, that is, they reported to me. i would sit near the clinic. there you just had contact the nurse was with one of the doctors. yes, they said, how she behaved, no, everything was absolutely normal until these days, everything was adequate, when she gave birth they showed her a child, of course, to show, of course, they probably. in total, you agreed on something connected with this, when there was no agreement with the clinic that the child was not taken away , but it seems to me that this was your total mistake. as far as i understand, these difficult births also played a role there, because she had to be left in the hospital for a while. yes, in the hospital they were waiting for her to come out on the seventh day. she got off on the fourth and left. there was very much there was a child. uh, just told me he was panting he was blue acting. that is, he could suffocate to die altogether. uh, anastasia took the

baby. this is the child of tomara or anastasia. it doesn't matter how i understand it for the legislation. especially. she is now keeping the child in some apartment and does not allow tamara to see him. she is absolutely right. yes, we understand that before litigation. yes the fact is that yes she is legally parents of this child no a. from the point of view of the criminal code, there are no corpus delicti in relation to her, if the case, if the case does go to court, i can say that the court will take into account the fact, which is very important. why the surrogate mother refused to register the child for the biological parents, including, of course, will be considered, and the situation, as you say with maternal instinct , is perhaps the last question for natalia before the next heroine appears. i want to know if

that tamara is currently not legally married. this is of some importance to her, because the law says that parents can resort to the services of a surrogate mother, well , persons who wish to have a child, both those who are legally married and those who are not more than that, tamara did not have would andrey as her actual husband still even. she would be a single mother. it would also not matter who promotes fornication, like this lady. can become the mother of a child, and then do not think that psychological trauma in a child for life goods let me spit wanted. i will invite now to the next heroine. especially without her. uh, dialogue further is simply impossible, the goods you insisted on meeting with this person. you were looking for her and i think you are addressing a huge number of questions to her now , but anastasia isaeva has set the condition

that she will not appear in our studio without her lawyer, therefore, i invite anastasia isaeva and alexandra benkin to us good evening. for the first time in the history of the transmission, such a double exit, in my opinion, no, but i think that you are, despite the fact that you are a lawyer, anastasia, as i understand it. eh, let me speak. i do not want to start with the words of lawyer anastasia, please comment on the accusation. well, i'm being accused of kidnapping their child. looks like this, to be honest, it 's my child. after giving birth, i realized that this is my child. nastya is not a kidnapping. you don't say a word. you follow me, no one showed you kidnapped, you know, my girl, my dear. we'll talk now, tell me. follow. they are trying to look for me, can i ask a question

to me. i just heard. this is my child. i understood this after childbirth, specify. it's literally your child, or it's the biological mother's child, which is tamara. this is my child. it was i who gave birth to him from my husband and understood. i'm only after myself. she gave birth normally. you understood god for god's sake, you can figure it out. anastasia , one question for you, please tell me, tamara received money. yes? yes, the answer. yes, the truth, thanks for the truth further. how much did you receive tamara money? i got enough. no, this is not an answer. how much was the sum here? i want to check your veracity. hmm, more than one and a half million rubles, a figure, more precisely, 3 million. or maybe five no, five no, four no, three 800 no, the answer is no. you know there mark says 3.800, nevertheless it is good that three have already been recognized as a plus.

that's like responsibility for a second. i will continue my question. so get this money, why did they get it for beautiful eyes? no, i get them their child, that is, it turns out, after all their child will never be publicly recognized. please explain how it gets that you were carrying their child, gave birth to yours, explain when i was in the hospital for treatment. you were also present when we took the tests, they told me that i have a yellow body there. perhaps this is before menstruation. e, as if e, either this is pregnancy, it was already initially warned me about this, but nevertheless. i was implanted with their fertilized eggs anyway, then according to the da i will finish my thoughts and keep in mind that in sousa, in addition to everything other things there will be frames from this program, where you admit that we have their child - this is the time they took for this amount. i declare that it is 3.800. yes? they took nothing for it. so, yes,

and here, because it's not for nothing that i don't have a child. yes, none of your business. wait for the money, you took it , the girl took it. thank you so much for helping me bear my child. i’m all for you, my dear, that’s not what we are talking about now . i gave. speak the microphone turned on the doctor found. you are a doctor. he warned you that maybe it's pregnancy. you closed your eyes to this some ads. this is my sister, anastasia's own sister, you are all for that. closed you knew it to the last, you sent money to you, and no one gave a 100% guarantee. why are you now claiming that it is your child who will make dna and everything will eat lobster she was told by the doctor that there is a yellow body, she was present at the doctor you were present you came there are opportunities

far from gynecology obstetrics there are spa specialists, they tell make dna possible whether to plant it? uh, pregnant women, tatiana says it's impossible, but it can't be done. yes, yes, it's possible you're talking nonsense. uh, what 's the deal with a doctor who does this, he won't go for this surgery, you know, no. you need to get a boss, at least an elementary medical education, in order to lie like that, excuse me, but i beg your pardon. and you have children before this pregnancy, you had children, it was tamara's condition when she picked up a small comment from the point of view of her enemies to mothers legislation. she does not have the right to be a surrogate mother, because the law clearly requires that, with an enemy mother, there may

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moscow region her. she was just hiding from me. tamara never managed to meet anastasia and she still hasn't seen the child. even if she is a surrogate mother, she can, at any time after the birth of the child , keep him, as far as i understand, no, there is no special law that regulates surrogate motherhood. is it really marya and andrei who are not destined to become parents? i will fight, of course, to the end for my child . anastasia agreed to a meeting with tamara, but she set conditions for her to enter the studio only with her lawyer. she has already stated to the editor that she gave birth to a child from her husband, but why then did she refuse the dna test and what shocking details anastasia tried to hide during preliminary check? what documents were signed? this is a dispute to the household, how do we

usually say money? you want to get money from her, she paid you that you are sitting here, if she had paid me, i would not have flown in. that's not the point, nevertheless, the goods. i also paid attention, do not waste your nerves. money. next, let's talk about the contract. still, i noticed that there were a lot of these pieces of paper ; i even then i thought it was strange, i didn’t think about it and didn’t tell us then yes, there are my omissions, but it was such a girl, simply, which is built on the relationship of the parties on decency. and the relationship of the parties in this case, now i do not want tamara to pretend

that she does not understand. what are we talking about alexander quite intelligible things, he says, he accuses you of the fact that the contract that you signed several contracts. it's just answered he said by a lawyer who don't have any legal force, and which is only aimed at intimidation. uh, his clients in this case, when a person is afraid of these contracts. we are not in a similar situation yet. you were well aware that you would not have any special rights, and because of this, they began to bombard her with such a pile of contractual documents that she signed , they were intimidated, or assuming that they would later work in your favor. that's what was read, and you perfectly understood from the beginning. that your attitude is wrong, you know i'm trying look at the objective situation, and sort of prove that she took you money. well, in this case, you

are wrong, in general, look at everything. there's another listen, please, i'm sitting and proving that i'm right. i'm not saying yes. she took, i'm talking about something completely different, as she took, so she will return. look, we don't say no here, but i'm talking about something else. you say we hired people, it already smells. let's figure it out, do my questions. that's right, you can come here in a completely different article. that is, some have already begun that, please stop. stop tamara. i noticed. even a notary. now the lawyers have a certified document, according to which, if i’m not mistaken , anastasia was obliged to give up her roman rights to the child on the day of birth, e in favor of tamara from begnevskaya, as it is in general,

a notarial document is legitimate, in principle, you can write everything that is not carried out mankind legislation of the russian federation the notary certifies the person's signature. he beasts the fates consent between two people he dob- agreeable both consonants both signed. and today these are documents you have to check, uh, this contract for compliance with the law is that everything is in order. i already have one child, and so i can the notary will not request. she has the birth certificate of her first child, and so on and so forth, but because she has no first child. so, according to the law, she would not have had the right to be a surrogate mother, any transactions aimed at surrogate motherhood can be recognized tamara has these transactions. will answer already the laws of the civil code, who

did they say some feelings here, you understand? here please anastasia, i see that she has maternal feelings. i can see that she loves this child any judge will take our side. wait, i don't mind we'll talk in court then. if you say, please, make a statement to her, because this is tamara's poster, if it's about the fact that she will send people and so on, and then there is already a bumpy persecution. thank you very much tamara, i'll tell you, the following you deliberately pull in the direction of feelings, because you are soberly aware that you falsified. these documents feeling is certainly very important in this situation, but we are now talking about documents, which i will repeat once again you are false. they quoted anastasia dot over and whose child it is

in the sense who his father is, my husband of this child at the moment when the egg was not implanted, there was already a yellow body, and you, like no one else , knew about it, because you listen to qualified owners . they said it might be. well, it shouldn't be. based on this, i come to the conclusion that you don't give away as a child. intend under no circumstances for money, ever. no. i, by the way, have this argument that you cite about the fact that you were already pregnant at the time of replanting. you didn’t talk about it at our last program, and this suggests what it is? well, here's a last-minute trick. tell me, please, your child's birth certificate states that his mother is fundamentally. well, i have questions for you. nastya, about whom few people know, but we will find

out the most, please tell anastasia please, what is your last name? yes, now a little later timur and there is some evidence that the child is hers from her husband. you know what dna wanted to say, look, if alexander's law to you is a question on your side on your client's side, even if she is wrong, why even if she is wrong, why but even if she is not , he prevails refuses the dna procedure which if you were her child, this is the fetus that she climbed out. why do i explain dna, she does this simple procedure. and after that, if it turns out that this is really her child with her husband tamara forgets about them forever. to do all this, even if you are something like a tamarin child by dna

, there are still no, well, there are no legal mechanisms to force her to return, then even more so, i understand that there is no legally you are right, but let's take a picture. let's make this tension tamara's dna will calm down and find out that this is not her child and everything back. what is tamara here tamara did not know anything at all. i think i will explain. i think the yellow green one was the ovum. i should explain. i think that you will calm down if you know that this is not your child. you will demand it. if he is not yours, i will not, i gave birth to him, this is my child, my mother. i understand that you gave birth, but tell me, please, when you came and were ready. why didn’t i know from the pddr, what they put on us, damn it, and you didn’t know, there was to understand, she was born, as they say. i didn't push her. i didn't force her. it was her choice. she

i have to understand, i'm not really talking, let's say so roman has already stated about your husband. i am said that we will return to this topic. let's get back. you yourself have repeatedly mentioned him, you know, it is precisely with your husband that one thing is not afraid of this word, a strange circumstance. let's now invite andrey grigoriev apollonov and continue this topic. andrey good evening, tamarochka, well done what a good fellow. you know, to be honest, there are no words at all, no emotions. here. and here, please, find the words of emotion about anastasia's husband, what attracted you to your personality, can you? what's wrong there? look, i'll start with the situation, firstly tackle, like, why didn't we know gaps in the legislation , motherhood knew such problems. naturally. tamara found us through friends. we found nastya nastya was in her own financial situation

, there was simply nothing to eat without her. and now he is sitting with alexander with one of the dearest lawyers of our country, as she took him, where is the money i have a question of time borrow surrogates from my mother through acquaintances. yes, you did not follow the law of the path, without a tripartite agreement with the clinic, you do not have any right on this one on this questions money. this is what i'm giving money to. still. you were the person who insisted on this topic and paid attention to it . so what's wrong with anastasia's husband. and with her husband they are some kind of february twentieth. you shared the birth of a child in two weeks, our child says 29 days, or something, in 12 days, as the

wall suggests on the surname from the husband’s puck, the name is andrey isaev, also, according to my information, they are surnames yes, to those who marry in 12, as he said romance of the days before the birth of the child that i felt unwell nothing from him that came out at that time. and most importantly, what is it at all, does this person exist? we can't even check it with the police. maybe some sort of fictional character. who is andrey isaev and your brother, sister is now a question that answers. this is a childhood friend who generally has a family and another child 12 days before the birth of a child to marry his namesake. tamara, how bad is she? how does she generally

behave badly? lord, everything is two swindlers. shut up, we worked together with him. yes? i am i've been walking with him since the beginning. we met for a very long time were a free woman. he said i had nothing to eat. help me, yes, you're here the studio said something like that. it was i was not so strong, well done to come to moscow to get there. what are you talking about on camera? listen, do you know where she gets the money from? you didn’t sing me for my birthday either for free. thank you need. what alexander andrey pays you for let me, for god's sake, contact you. it seems to me that i will not get an answer from anastasia. it was you who advised your under protective to marry 12 days before the birth of the child in response to her

question. uh, consulted her, let's say. so, if you 're interested, interesting, at least for the money consultation about what yes? a marriage is concluded. so the laws of the russian federation, one who is married as a slain, he is automatically recorded from his own birth. right. it didn't have to get married. be sure to look alexander wait alexander you are now a little. not for a birth certificate to be recorded, this or that person as a father is not necessarily married enough to become a father. well, why was it enough for them to sit there, putting up responsibility, and so that it disappears, you can and that’s enough to get married. why are you picking up? like a pro. see. i understand correctly that

even if, by some court decisions , pressure, persuasion, threats, it doesn’t matter, and anastasia is deprived of parental rights, then the parental rights to the child remain with the father of that very husband parental rights, it is almost impossible in the family. not a drunkard, and so on in order to deprive mother of parental rights, now. it should be just something from the category of fantasy, and here is another reinsurance that in any case the child remains in the husband's family. even if it happens, science fiction and anastasia will be able to persuade the child there, hypothetically some malicious people, that they will put her in and it will turn out that they will deprive her in any case, but set her up? anything, maybe? yes, that andrey isaev remains a dad. and by the way, speaking, a legitimate illegitimate

prisoner he was on anastasia andrey as a father the child has nothing to do with it. he cannot conclude such an agreement, that is, the force of law, which tells us that the father of the child is the person who is recorded on the birth certificate by mutual consent of these parents, regardless of whether he is a child or oh, a father or not . he gave consent and that means the law recognizes him as a father, but i’m thinking, why do they need this and here you are talking about the fact that what if they deprive her of parental rights, and then this andrey isaev really remains the father assume that they did this in order to protect themselves from the return of funds, or vice versa, so that it is impossible to negotiate with this andrey isaev. and i have a crazy version. but what if this

namesake is generally a fictitious face of relatives. and now we later why was it obviously necessary? this is obvious. uh, obviously an absolutely effective marriage, somewhere a relative of some closest one quickly concocted the case and became a husband and that's it. well , it's obvious, but it's obvious to anyone that something is present. it's impossible to find a man here monophasic. what i'm talking about, there , some unimportant thirty-cousin was discharged with the same surname when he arrived, in general, people with the same tradition, and so on, andrey's namesake is very conveniently convenient damn, who is actually the biological mother of anastasia's child we we'll find out right after the ad. at the studio tonight , vladislav tretiak, one of the most ingenious great citizens, there was a large cohort of fans

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yourself to dream dot bank for entrepreneurs and enterprises on the air, the program is actually a studio in which it is impossible to lie at home razbignevskaya requires a surrogate mother returned her son to her march 3 anastasia isaeva gave birth to a child from then hiding with him from lawyers secular lvitsynskaya said that anastasia isaeva, who was carrying a child for her and her beloved singer andrei grigoriev-apollonov, on march 3 gave birth to a son and ran away with him to the end for her child anastasi today. she agreed to meet tamara face to face, but only in the

presence of her lawyer alexander benkhin. this is my child. it was i who gave birth to him from my husband and understood. i only did this after i gave birth to him. fine. did you understand the novel styuzhanin is trying to find out. how much anastasia ended up taking from tamara for her services, and at this moment the girl makes a reservation. i received them for the fact that i was carrying their child. still, this is their child in public. you admit it, we'll do dna and everything will be clear, but anastasia categorically refuses the dna test and is ready to give tamara the money spent on gestation and childbirth. i will not give up the child. all this is heard by andrei grigoriev-apollonov, who is waiting for his exit backstage. he spent his own investigation and is ready to present a shocking compromising evidence on anastasia that she so diligently concealed from tamara from the very beginning. i want to say that tamara does not give the impression of a person who

just gives away a huge amount of money he has no opportunity to consult. there is a very strange story here. as for the psychological component, in my opinion, tamara initially understood that she had no rights to this child. otherwise, she would be all the time with anastasia, she experienced such a difficult birth. she would support nastya, all the more, as she said, a warm relationship did not work out. she would have collected all her behavior tamara let me say one more thing tamara's behavior says that she already initially understands that she has no rights to this child. i argue. i will tell you this until the very end. i wanted to be with anastasia, including in the clinic, just anastasia’s condition or, as she

said about it, she didn’t allow her to do it kristina bullshit tamara kristin, but it’s clear that vova's mother is now fighting alone for her child. how sure is she? what to do, the legal situation is a failure, as i understand it. well, i actually spent half a year in thailand, so i found out about this situation. just a few days ago. well, i'm in such a shock, because mom. well, she came to me, that is, uh, but we are talking, perhaps about yours, but to take it, but as it were, everything seems to be fine. that is, she was so inspired, that is, she came to me. we rested with her. that is, she i was really looking forward to, how would there, well, this child in general, andrey knows. and now, honestly, i can’t even comment on it, because for me it’s e. such a kind of shock, because i arrived 4 days ago for the mother of my grandchildren and so that she would already calm down. this is the most important thing sitting. timur, i

'm in any case, like, well, i'll hold my mother. it 's just that we haven't talked to her like that before. of course i will. well, how would you go with it to the end and support them. eh, naturally. thank you daughter. oksan conclusions, please, from what desire to have a child is a normal need of all people, yes, and regardless of age. that is, if a person feels himself able to raise this child, raise this child. well, why not at all? and on the other hand, hmm also we have a demographic problem, yes in the country and uh, surrogacy. this is one of the ways to solve this problem, but we understand the current conflict situation, that this problem is not resolved at the legislative level, and of course, the legislation requires regulation

no serious regulation and the introduction of a separate law on surrogate motherhood into the family code, or something or something - for some kind of registration in the family code. i don’t know how it is possible that these are adjustments to the family code, including, because today the family code secures, as it were, the right for a woman in labor to keep a child, and not for a donor, this is also tax legislation also requires adjustments, despite the fact that today we have not touched. yes , these, but moments, but in general, uh, it's hard to say that it should be separate rather not. but what adjustments must be made to be, yes, and i'm here for my part. well, i see that i will appeal to the deputies, and we will soon, well, hmm, this will be a dead point, when should it move? yes, you know, this is not the first time i’ve been watching you anastasia,

i know this directly deja vu is not a deja vu question, and i realized that this is my child and my husband immediately after giving birth, how great, how did you take the baby in your arms and understand that this is your biologically he is because he looks like us. and right you can right me here i am, right now, newborn children. affects looks like newborn babies okay. do you know that alexander can you please not speak in parallel? she took money to the last, then suddenly, 12 days before the birth, she ran and married an incomprehensible man after birth. why did his grandfather make every effort so that tamara was not present at the clinic, you know, and this does not look like spontaneous actions when she took the baby in her arms and suddenly felt something, it looks like a well-thought-out topic on a wonderful plan. ah. as

get money and as a matter of fact, i now give birth and get married and get married and arrange somehow in my life. but here, excuse me, money makes such an impression on me, including here, as you sit smiling, you know, and the look of the winner is roman now. i just want to say what really impressed me. i can't get it out of my head that in order for anastasia to be legally right even a dna test is actually. and do not need a law so inflicted. and this is hard for me to comprehend. here, although on the other hand. i'm sure that it really is your child. and this is not a scheme, nor a fraud, you would have made dna, you would calmly say. okay i'll do tamara today no, no complaints. and at the same time, you are there somehow, in some parts, to reimburse the money that

they invested in the battle to turn dna. why won't i say? i understand why it turns out, please, please tell me the question. you say that you do not need money, that is, they did not interest you. i understand correctly. well, initially. i needed money. that there is this time ok next question. please tell me, did you have intimate contacts with a man at the time? here, how would you officially uh, you still succeeded in this motherhood, right? and after that you had a contact. with some husband, whenever you had intimate contact with a man to answer this question is an important question. you know that you are already saying what they told me, and now i will say the answer was. this tamara

says that initially they wanted to deceive you, initially they led you by the nose. for now, that's all. thank you. you understand, in general, that you are the most expensive, like a lawyer, and she pays you with your mother's money or not, resources and my first third question was. no no. here was my first question. i say, you will return the money to tamara with andrey and when i return now, and when the mother’s holy topic, you are like a woman, my friends, i can only offer you after natalya says, why did you conclude that she pays the lawyer with her mother’s money, how did you identify them? and i will answer you. i to you on this question. she is sitting on me now and says, even today, right now, i can do it for you.