an ambulance has already been called and as soon as he rejects his eyes, we must immediately give him a drink. that's right, well, don't be afraid at all, like unconsciousness. i think i'm out. yes, very beautiful. get up my dear. i want to ask one question , to whom the bath is contraindicated. reply as a cardiologist, see the bath is contraindicated in any patients with severe chronic diseases of hospitals, severe heart failure patients are severe without disease, and lung hospitals renal insufficiently ill with neurological problems as well. i do not recommend the bath in the hospital a singer to children, of course, these children of younger age up to three years are generally taboo, especially in the first year of life, when their fontanel has not yet grown. why because just overheating of the brain happens

unequivocally, maybe it is in the liquid in the cerebrospinal fluid. moreover, the brain. it is also open when the temperature rises, not even the baby’s body itself will heat up, but the brain. and this is already a danger of convulsions right there right there and it is very difficult to help such children. i want to say separately that when you are in a bathhouse in the country very often there is no medical there is no help, so here we showed you such an elegant ice bag. never mind. what kind of ice will be a piece of meat and a freezer, everything that is oil, that everything that is from the freezer got everything that you can get directly from the freezer. we must definitely use again the places that caused us so much laughter and noise. where you should put the cold is the places where the large vessels go sleepy times here, uh, the femoral arteries, and here is such a chic artery of the artery. these are the best places

right here and there. and here. do not put here necessary. this is wrong, understandable, but in fact, this is all that we wanted to tell you today. and, as always, let me remind you that you can watch our programs on the first channel website 1tv.ru. i want to say that andrei petrovich and i have been using telegram for a long time in all social networks, but then they joined us. yes, dmitry mikhailovna, my children stuck everything in me, yes, so we are with you on social networks, maybe germashevich gives on social networks. as long as he has this social network. no, as always finally. we were good with you, let you live well.

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cinema one tv presents virtinskiy we continue to work live, let's start with a summary of the urgent message from the people's militia of the dpr for this war crime that happened over the weekend, otherwise it is impossible to characterize. so it was reported that during the day, ukrainian troops fired about 700 ammunition into the dpr, including from the hurricane rocket launcher. and the city is in full swing. what's up there?

why is it so called bondarrio? nazis, but, judging by what is happening, it’s just that the nazis have been hitting the donbass with special frenzy for the last few days. yesterday, donetsk was under heavy fire. this is the shelling of the most powerful for the entire time of the conflict, rockets, hails of hurricanes, shells of various calibers and cannon artillery, including, by the way, what is important, nato flew without interruption as a result of shelling, according to the headquarters of the territorial defense of the dpr in donetsk, five people died, including a child, another 39 civilians residents were injured, but, accordingly, they tried to do everything so that there were as many victims among the civilian population as possible, for example, they hit the market of donetsk where at that moment there was an active trade, where it was full of people, the market was located, which is also important, in the center of a very large residential area of ​​​​a residential area 100 meters away. a large orphanage was beaten in the maternity hospital in the center. donetsk women in childbirth. evacuated to the basement and only by a miracle. nobody died. here is what they say in particular. we

went down even lower, then we are still sitting, and we know what is there, and how long ago did this happen, right? burn in hell, you, of course, are the bastards for all this. uh, again yesterday , the most powerful shelling in the entire conflict killed five people, including a child 39 civilians were injured. and here are the correspondents of the ridovka edition, he visits us quite often on the air of kirill, mashev. i heard that they didn’t seem to be shooting anymore, i thought that standup decided to record this lull on the street, but after a couple of minutes i came under fire. that's how it was. we walk along the kiev region, which, like all other regions. donetsk was fired upon just for an hour, it was considered that more than 100 shells had already been

fired at the city. here he came out of the hallway. such tails are lying around . pay attention to the center completely peaceful city. this is not a military unit and so on. by the way, we were now waiting for the inclusion of cyril and masha tried to establish contact with him, but we did not succeed. i hope everything is in order, i’m sure that everything is in order, but just that there are some problems, we’ll put it on the air now with us in direct contact with a war correspondent from donetsk pavel kukushkin pavel hear us. yes anatoly good afternoon i can hear you

well. tell us, please, about these powerful attacks. uh, they say the most powerful for all the time of the conflict, please. yes anatolia absolutely communicate well with the locals. this was an unprecedented shelling, the most powerful in history. here, according to the already confirmed data of the order, and 86 rszongrad, 14 hurricanes and 32. e 155 nato shells. barrel artillery caliber was released only yesterday. i took this piece with me. uh, this is a fragment of a 155mm nato. eh, projectile. i found this on the spot. and the shelling of one of the districts, well, hmm, so, it turned out that, by coincidence , i ended up during the shelling in may market area. yesterday. it all happened before my eyes and the very market that was shelled, yes, the may market. absolutely right. that picture that you see behind me now

is what is left of the place of arrival. and here they beat with hail. it's already confirmed here died. well , almost in front of my eyes, a mother with a boy, and at the age of eleven, this is a terrible terrible picture, of course, it was here. ah. well, it can not be expressed in words throat rolled up. uh, but i had to help drag the wounded. there were also fighters fighters tags, with whom, uh, in the arrangement, which i am, and they helped the wounded here. we took them out. uh, more like an ambulance. by the way, it should be said that services and firefighters work very quickly here, and the ambulance arrived very quickly, despite the incessant shelling, they work under shelling. this is also heroism. uh worthy of a memory absolutely yes it's not a figure of speech absolutely absolutely. i say, understanding what it is about, when all the instincts of the most conservation should be kind of like all these people, on the contrary, on the contrary, run in places of shelling and, uh, pull out the

early ones, try to save them. well, unfortunately, not everyone was saved yesterday. yesterday, they died. i repeat again. mom with an 11 year old boy. this is a terrible tragedy. i saw a father and an older brother who arrived. i did not take them off and i intend to, because this is grief, well , terrible, yes, and because i simply did not raise my hand to take it off. and it was you who said that we talked with the locals to me, well, so to tell. they not only gave tactics and technical characteristics of this unprecedented shelling and so on, but they also have some kind of personal, i don’t know, emotional attitude to what is happening. it would be very interesting to know what they think, how they react to it. well, how, how can civilians react when shelling intensifies so people die, well, people are in shock, yes, people suffer very much, but uh, how to say? i've talked to a lot of people and they're all, uh, talking about the same thing when this is all over. and when russia e,

will come to their aid. well, let's say so, when she intensifies. he will increase the opportunity to increase the pressure, because everyone is waiting, and everyone wants an offensive, in order to, uh, pull this artillery as far as possible from donetsk from peaceful donetsk, a and anatoly how did you notice correctly? uh, there is no longer a division into listeners into lawyers. the so-called these are all large-caliber installations. they are all in the subdivisions of the armed forces of ukraine and on the avdeevka board. fifteen guys know this, specifically, 25th, airborne brigade. this is a division. short say that what is happening in donetsk now donetsk does not stop shelling. so while i was waiting for the broadcast. ah, the air defense worked again, they shot down again, whipped up, ah, ukrainian missiles, it rumbles again, the kalininsky region is still rattled. e, shelling has not stopped for all 8

years. and specifically, the may market, which is located in the budyonnovsky district, the locals here used to playfully call malibu the local malibu for relative calmness. there have never been flights here. here now and flew here flew. so yes, civilians and, worst of all, children died. the worst. what, well, yes, to him, and not here, pavel needs to be explained simply to our our viewers. e, if someone, although i think now we all have become e in all these nuances and subtleties of the conduct of hostilities. it must be emphasized that e air defense works and air defense works against, well, against missiles, for example, against all kinds. check and so on. but let's say volleys. if i understand correctly, cannon artillery, they cannot have any air defense. so say be prevented. therefore, therefore, unfortunately, like this it is simply impossible to absolutely correctly shoot down missiles. ah, but air defense is powerless against uh cannon artillery. this one here is 155

nato. and they hit quite a range. they are quite serious. and this evidence that it flies to those areas that have not flown before, it says, it says that they brought it up and this artillery is working. i mean, uh, friends. the west is actively helping them with ammunition and artillery. this is very good emphasize, so to speak, it is important to show everyone once again, i articulate it clearly. here is what you showed. show me this thing again. this is a fragment from 155 mm nato. eh yes nato, so to speak, weapons. here it is. and this is also what zelensky podolyakovich is grateful for to the endless carrying them, uh, partners. yes, for this and for the fact that you fell behind behind your back. yes, for the may market, yes, yes. it's hard in the hands. here is my face. and when it flies at a wild speed, well, protect yourself from it, it is practically impossible, that is, if this is an

arrival, then this is death, and this must be understood and realized. this is how the shells weigh pavel well , like. specifically, this fragment weighs a gram, probably 300-400. here. yes, no, even more. i keep like that, probably half a kilo. it definitely weighs, this is not the largest fragment that i understand, i just imagine how these half a kilo are flying at absolutely terrible speed, knocking everything in its path . i'm talking about people, about the building, and so on, he can, well, he will cut this fragment of course, if we talk, or maybe one, this particular one oskol and such on such he scatters hundreds. well, thank you weapons thank you dude. thank macron soviet thank you that he is there something neither here nor there. oh hard, who noticed the words, yes who want to stop. well , but at the same time, stopping the war, as they say, in words they supply, but they do not quite want to stop the war. they want the defeat of russia what we have been told many times. all pavel thank you

very much. thank you. pavel kukushkin was with us on direct communication from donetsk now you see alexander matyushin picks up. uh, picks up, so to speak, this dasha and what is the name, the inclusion of a correspondent military correspondent, as i understand it, now at checkpoint a at the checkpoint between the dpr and russia yes sash i understand correctly, hello, this is the border of the dpr and the rostov region. yes, for the time being the border, as we see, excuse me, sash, the cars are behind you, this, which is in the direction of russia, respectively, this is in the direction of russia plus. here all the parking lots are packed with people. so, wait your turn. here they stand the other side of the road too. and, that is, people are waiting for their turn to leave after yesterday's shelling, the number of people who want to leave, but forcibly age has increased. i was already 8:00 in the morning at the checkpoint itself and already the queue stretched for two kilometers. well, it's

predictable. this is understandable, listen, but, i don’t know, it’s necessary to choose the words here, of course, this is panic. it's just, so to speak, anxiety, that it's a measured decision to worry people, many people. i myself saw they were crying and did not want to leave, but nevertheless they are leaving. but escaping from shelling. i myself am not a timid ten and constantly advanced. yes, but yesterday, in reality, i already kind of signed to all my friends and asked for forgiveness next to me, next to my house, where i was, the house on fomin street caught fire , cars were on fire, and it was burning practically, but next to me. in the meantime, i was moving along the street during the shelling. i just went to the store. yes, and the shelling began next to me along matrosova street, and for example, yes, earlier the guy himself was a little jammed. and i, as it were, well, that is, yesterday, that is, really, that is, i it was as if i was saying goodbye to life, and strangers

let me in just into the corridor. they say, run here. and here i was sitting in the corridor and already writing to all my friends. ah, the pro-pro asked for forgiveness if i did something to someone, not bad in my life, although on the front line, in principle, like 5 years of right, and now i am constantly on the front line. here i am, like, well, save your forgiveness. i hope, i hope for the future. and tell me, please, did you manage to talk with someone from those who well, from those who travel to that side of russia. i'm very interested. to me it seems that this is the most important thing. the most interesting thing is, of course, the reaction of people. and i talked to people with children and adults. i saw the military who are helping to evacuate people right now, just at the border and they even give a ride for free, despite the fact that they spend their gasoline there, and at one time they bring people up and people don’t want to leave, but at

the same time they say that, as it were, they won’t fly to live in conditions of constant fear, and many houses in the center of donetsk were built back in the fifties, therefore they have wooden ceilings, and even basements. well, they can, well, it’s hard to call them a bomb shelter, in my opinion, in a direct hit on the house, and the shell will directly hit the basement and people are hiding. this is understandable. this is the largest, so to speak, departure from donetsk for that time, then it says 5 years you have been fighting for the time that you are a witness to this conflict. this is the most massive, and they also called me back, they said that we have an even longer queue for irinovka, this is a marinade from your side of kuibyshev yes, and she’s on the azov highway and again, but there is a rather long queue, and people are trying to leave in the rostov region, having the opportunity, but they come there by way, and they see, then the queue turns around, they go to some other one, and at another checkpoint, that is, go through there and again

a queue is created. yes, well, at the same time, many residents of donetsk, despite the fact that there are shelling , still remain at home, in particular. i here yesterday offered, and to acquaintances. i apologize in our life i will interrupt you, it’s just that i’m now being informed that at the moment, right at this fired for a second. yes, no, if they fired about 30-30 shells on the cotton wool of makeevka from hailstones, uh. right now, while we are talking to you. this is still going on for now. i was driving to uspenka in the morning, the district had already arrived, if it ’s new for the panteleimonovka of the gorlovka district. thank you very much awards. just the day before yesterday there were more than 500. yes, we told 700, to be exact actually, uh, thanks 700 ammo and hail and hurricanes and so on. thank you very much alexander matyushin was in direct contact with us war correspondent of the uspenka checkpoint from the dpr , you see this line of people who go to russia for these attacks. thank you very much sasha,

and now we need to understand and discuss with you. and what are they striving for? well, if you are not, so to speak, abstract general philosophical, such as to sow horrors. you have some specific task there, a specific goal vasilich how do you think they have a specific goal based on their position of their understanding? well, excuse me for that term. yes, he did , unfortunately. lately very so used to smear, that is, to take revenge. these are for them people who in the fourteenth year chose freedom from nazism. and as soon as they have at least some opportunity to do it, it hurts them. they do it, that is, there is no military sense to make it a nightmare, so to speak . i'm here as a man, a military soldier, i don't see the aspect. did you hear excuse me here, as he told us ah, who said it? pavel kukushkin yes

that no and or sasha yes, and it doesn't matter to you. he said yes, and so many people say what they say and ask, they demand that russia hit avdiivka, so to speak, and so on. it seems to me that in this predictable desire of people there is, maybe a secret meaning, maybe they are trying to demoralize. defenders of donbass, both our military and the dpr lpr, but they definitely won’t succeed. they can only do more. what is called the most calm and reserved person in general in the world. yes, my fists are clenched and rage, i just don’t know what kind of demoralization is the worst, that i’ll repeat it once again , but it’s necessary to repeat it, they are doing it now. with the mediation and direct assistance with the help of the west that is, they were supplied with cannon artillery. yes, she absolutely must immediately understand that this is a biden, struck

at civilians, including. yes, it’s good for pregnant women that you said yes, and i hope that this sounded quite clearly, let’s repeat it again. this is a biden of his supply. all this is his rhetoric. they killed these people, including the child happy with jones, please all the american elites who signed up for this, because if someone thinks that biden, he will leave and america will say. there is. moreover, it was decided by the president or europe would say, and if we had nothing to do with this, the americans, we were forced to do so, it won’t be so by everyone who supplied the french and italian americans, all the more, who most of all set in the first place about the goals, of course, there are also military targets, about which you spoke. namely, attempts to force russian troops and troops of the dpr to advance on avdiivka and put people there. well, our other goal is that we are systematic, we are systematically clearing the territory, and they want to throw us at the powerful fortress of the region so that

we can go faster faster absolutely correctly, in addition to this there is a big political goal, because one thing they want from us they want to inflict retaliatory strikes on decision-making centers in kiev and how where now? a large european delegation is just arriving, consisting of heads of state. uh, italy france, germany, and, uh, zelensky, in order to bring these people to some destroyed building of the sbu in kiev, i don’t know. look, the russian barbarians did it, he provokes us by shelling donetsk, they all believe that we should follow this provocation , but the high command, as it were. well, yes. it is very important. thank you for saying. let's do it again, but let's repeat, yes, so the first, then lure us. lure to avdiivka, it is a very powerful fortified area. this is the first second. and the second. here we are when we say, yes, they still have pr for them - this is still very important. it's not very harmless. you understand what pr is, yes, on the eve of the visit of european leaders, they hit donetsk so

frenziedly. think about it, what meanness what cynicism? yes, so that we strike back at kiev so that they have a picture of smoking ruins, so that they walk around means that with these tragic faces of theirs they show, look and this intensifies the supply of weapons. this is again a new round of consensus, and so on and money is money. here, what is pr guys. this is not just a harmless blah blah blah from an arrest officer. this is what this pr is. bloody people, for whom human life in general means nothing, well, it’s, here ’s what we’re talking about now, here’s kirill and masha in which we mentioned the report we watched, but came out with us direct connection with the correspondent of the online publication, ridovskaya, kirill listen to us reception. we were yesterday. rather, we were witnesses. as you, so to speak, actually came under fire, but it's scary. tell me, please, about these blows to donetsk as a witness, one of which you get steel. oh yes, hello. yes, you know,

yesterday i was generally planning how to sit at home and work and sign the text, but it began. that's all, as if all our correspondents had dispersed around the district. i realized that i also need to go. but before that, i wanted to get my friends to wash up, until the water was turned on, i called a taxi. ah, the taxi driver dialed at ease from more precisely, inflated the wheel already in the center. something started to pop up. we sat down and went to the kirovsky district, where we are comrades live, and i arrived, they were already there. that is , right next to it, something was smoking. i went to their basement and we spent an hour there. and i think, well, it’s possible already, like, a lull, as if i went to write it down, i’ll work on stand-up and it started again. in general, shells were flying there for about 3 hours without stopping. that is, uh, i’m already counting, there are more than 500, as it were, different types in kiev, 7. 700 reports the headquarters of the

people’s militia of the dpr if it is so, yes, yes, but everything has been restored. we just heard you through the word. now it seems to be, yes to finish, please. in the kiev region, there were obvious traces of hurricanes that fired, you know, emotions. what i experienced i felt that i was again in mariupol and when i saw these people in the basements, when the base was filming teleportations, the man goes and tells how it flew into his house, how they were afraid. here, there really was a feeling that in mariupol something was constantly shooting, shooting, shooting, damn it, as if it was definitely to torment yourself, but in mariupol now, on the contrary, it’s calmer here, just such an atmosphere in donetsk yes you said, uh, that you saw the tracks from the hurricanes , right? i am quoting you. what do hurricane tracks look like? not traces from hurricanes, namely tails. that is, as i understand it, it was precisely the downed missiles, that is, our air defense was still

working, and these were the missiles shot down, because there were no traces of the arrivals. that's it shank collapsed through the streets okay kirill take care of yourself. thank you very much cyril and masha , the correspondent of the publication ridovka was in direct contact with us. well, and now so now is the most interesting is what vasily yuryevich began to talk about. yes, it means, well, these intense shelling. we talked about it. let's repeat once again, yes, including the city center is not easy, including mainly residential areas, markets and so on. this means that they began after western countries began to supply ukraine with heavy weapons. ukraine, accordingly, is fighting bravely, and against civilians, especially and effectively, so to speak, and we are all witnesses there, that means, out, as if we had not seen anything like this before. well, everything some kind of bulka is not so common common conciliatory common humanitarian bulka is not un, but yesterday unexpectedly. they called on the parties to respect international humanitarian law and protect civilians. so she called on all parties

, all parties to the conflict in ukraine, to observe humanitarian law, well done. this means that early in the morning it was reported that the shelling of the maternity hospital, and there was also a certain maternity hospital, violates international law. but it's just i don't know, it's this, i don't know where they got the courage to say that. yes, let's see what's there. there will be some result. uh, let's see if there will be any, so to speak, of these of these all of a sudden. e unambiguous statement, he is some kind of exhaust, but at least, dmitry, these are the formulas that sound. how do you think it is? well, such a sudden and one-time kurtosis, or this change, maybe there is an understanding that it is impossible not to notice. well, there were such statements before this of a general nature, and now they are also of a general nature, that is, he is already a specific maternity hospital in donetsk and i remind you, they asked comment on the hospital. so they told in general about the observance of the humanitarian situation everywhere again a general phrase. that's why, as it were, from this

point of view, as if the situation is informational plus or minus the same. this is how it will change. the problem is that almost everyone understood that the supply of weapons would lead, respectively, first of all, to attacks on infrastructure facilities , they worked on the infrastructure long before the delivery of weapons, but on civilian infrastructure. and, accordingly for power plants for social facilities for everything else, it was all still working, as it were, points at so he said that if, accordingly, the piece of iron remains in its current functioning , it will reach there, respectively, first of all, weapons, it will work on civilian objects, which happened works piece of iron. works bridges stand. the problem lies in the following problem lies in the fact that how would it be understood, it was planned, how would the question be that how would this particular next red line. here's what will come of it. eh, there are, as it were, two two strategies of behavior. the first strategy of behavior comes from the fact that there is a task, relatively speaking, to

bring the situation slowly for a long time, while receiving enormous damage. infrastructural is the main reason is not ah. if it were just a bully of intimidation, they would only hit the social infrastructure facility at all facilities. they want, that is, the task is to inflict maximum damage on recovery. and. that is, it is already objects that will pass the task is the scheme, the expressed field of mariupol your task is to translate to give ruins well, that is, look now, that is, it turns out, it turns out billions of dollars. yes, yes, strikes to restore the future says that they are generally not even in theory to say so. well, that is, these territories were abandoned. let's take a look at everything from the blows going on the railway bridges, for example, now the territory, and directly the dpr of the lc. moreover , the blows that go deep into the iron bridges. that is, as if they were coming, respectively, strikes on power plants, infrastructure facilities are being hit, respectively, on the roadway. that is, in fact, there are some territories

that everyone understands perfectly, no one will take back, and there is simply an attempt to maximize damage. here we all understand it. we're just very important that it's completely perpendicular to the kievan rhetoric, we'll definitely be waiting for one of these days. now he was addressing their donetsk residents and the residents of luhansk yes, we’ll be back, well, some former all this, he drove his ridiculous cart. but this is rhetoric. and look at this, and this is action action. what to destroy in order to make the subsequent restoration as difficult as possible, if the ukrainian side believed that the subsequent restoration would fall on its shoulders. clearly, the logic. it would be different and the actions would be different, that is, everything. they de facto refused. and this is their territory , there are no people, nothing changes in the war of attrition, in which we have moved yes, according to slow actions, respectively, the question is. who will cause more economic damage? who is bigger will be inflicted, respectively, the shock component is, as it were, including other countries of this conflict, so the problem lies in the following problem is that the

longer this process continues, the more, respectively, as if there will be an attempt to involve it as much as possible, as if the costs that are now imagine the maximum, in short, an important point, which is as follows, that if a from this side will go, a total war will take us, respectively, the destruction of infrastructure, and c. the other side. you will be a military operation. here are the exact steps accordingly. as a result, this leads to the fact that the costs of some will simply cover these girls for others. this is the key question really. this is the key question. let's listen. here is the statement from yesterday. denis pushilin and discuss it, please. the enemy in the literal sense of the word crossed all the brink of e, prohibited methods are used. during the war, sleeping areas are shelled. the central districts of the city of donetsk are also under fire now, while other cities and settlements of the donetsk people's republic, in this regard, an understanding was reached that all the necessary additional forces of the allied forces, primarily the russian federation, will be involved. so, accordingly, all the necessary

additional forces. this is a very difficult, very difficult question. in general, he is so he is terribly complex. namely. yes, you and i, uh, understand that we have, well, if you agree this is a concept, and they are lured to avdiivka, a fortified area, so to speak, serious and with a very large grouping. this is the first. yes, uh, they methodically, so to speak, uh, absolutely civilians, in order to call, well, of course, also, as they say, so to speak, e dmitry to make a nightmare and so on, yes, we understand that we really, of course, he has some forces from the purely military point of view. let's try to rationally reason about the fate of the military. this is completely wrong. this is this, so to speak, will weaken our strength. we shouldn't react to it. but it's hard not to react. and that's what to do, that is, the military point of view. if to abstract from certain emotions you need to endure, and with a human it is very difficult to endure that donetsk is the hottest spot and these shelling and

these shelling. unfortunately, they will continue precisely until we push back the armed forces of ukraine to that distance. wherever they could do it with that. eh, especially since it will be much harder to do now. why because there is an intensive supply of weapons that allow you to strike at a long distance, in particular artillery, howitzers have already been said and so on, but i here agree fully wanted to say that the responsibility. this is a war crime. responsibility should be borne not even by those who carried out this shelling, but even by those who made the decision to supply these weapons. uh, the same thing as this, probably, here i agree about how you can cause maximum damage, uh from an economic point of view, because everyone understands perfectly well that i will never be on the territory of ukraine they understand everyone perfectly well what to restore will have to the republics themselves and the russian federation because the west will not

invest a dime or a cent there. it is precisely the restoration of these territories that is why there is a maximum destruction of these social, including social civilian objects. and i think this is one of the agreements between the west and ukraine in the way the west is leading, uh, huge sanctions on the economy of the russian federation so that you, too, are kind of. yes, in order to load the russian federation as much as possible from an economic point of view. that's exactly the restoration of these territories. they say we will give you hatch weapons left and right. inflict damage on maxim, and we will cover you for international resuscitation , that is, look, that is, three aspects. first. so, you will exchange us for avdiivka the second aspect is the same pr - this is the very picture. yes , because the smoking ruins are there, look at whatever it is in kiev, what they say, faces are all that. this means that the third is a kind of sanction , the continuation of the sanction, and why is it really not on civilian infrastructure, on bridges on roads and so on

all represent a fourth. in conclusion, i would also like to say e of this thought, because when we ratified the agreement between the russian federation of the dpr lpr agreement on friendship and cooperation, because when we ratified, we perfectly understood that everything that was happening in these territories. we take it upon ourselves, too, because no matter how the west will not understand money there, so to speak, indirectly, let it be absolutely correct. also the fourth. well, so to speak. e, as they say, the englishman las-bat. note sheet latest by so say by enumeration, but not by importance. this is the north donetsk direction, in fact there is no north, according to the british monoliths. we will now talk with our analysts, but according to the british there, in fact, the most combat-ready and most powerful grouping. uh, ukrainian donbass, i read the british yesterday. they write about the thousands , about the forty thousandth group, they also write that this is the most combat-ready one, they write that the loss of severodonetsk will actually mean the end , i quote almost verbatim the end of the battle for

donbass that is this direction. so to speak, it is difficult it is difficult to overestimate its importance. and yesterday, the ministry of defense of ukraine confirmed that they had lost control over severodonetsk, moreover, after the bridge was blown up, the remnants of the apu turned out to be, in severodonetsk, in this industrial area, they were blocked. well , respectively, the division of the people of the militia of the lc. yes, uh, systematically, from the industrial zone of that same severodonetsk, they themselves saw that they fell under it just like that almost every day. tense can be heard now at the moment and arrow by no means, in general, large-caliber mortars work and plus from the lisichanskaya work of the sea bream periodically. oh, call sign midshipman, let's

get in touch and talk with lieutenant colonel of the people's militia of the luhansk people's republic andrei marovich. andrey vitalievich hello. thank you for coming to us, hear us welcome, hello, i wish you hear, i understand well. andrei viktorovich what first let's talk about the general situation in the lugansk people's republic well, first of all, the representative office of the million people in the jcc over the past day settlements in the lugansk people's republic, first of all, at 8:20, the settlement of gorskaya was hit with a mortar on the settlement of zolote. e, at 17:00 from the direction of the upper kamenka, a blow was struck at the settlement of the criminal. moreover, the criminal one is again a recently liberated settlement, but at the same time, the ukrainian punishers with this e are

also not considered our forces at 20:50 from the direction, artyomovsk, a missile of the tactical missile system point u flew over the settlement krasny the beam, if we draw a straight line, then this is more than 60 km from the line of contact. this is a deep you of the lugansk republic, i want to note that e repeatedly armed formations of ukraine tried to strike at this settlement with a point at e. we would have already shot down about five missiles over this settlement. eh, what is it for? this is just a continuation of what you anatoly discussed. uh, in this locality there are critical civilian infrastructure facilities. e, in if these facilities are destroyed or damaged, then a humanitarian catastrophe may ensue on

the territory of the entire luhansk people's republic. i don't specifically mention what kind of enemy facilities these are. uh knows, well, at the same time , i will not expand on this object and with regards to, as they say, severodonetsk is now at the moment. all the three main bridges that connected the settlement, severodonetsk with lisichansk, they were destroyed. e actually. e. now the entire group, which is located in the industrial zone. she found herself, uh, surrounded by a retreat. it can not, since the seversky donets river divides the two into synchronous points, which blasphemously believes that the local gauleiter constantly insists that there is nitrogen on the territory of the enterprise . now they can’t evacuate people from there, i want to note that this is a blatant lie, uh, for

a long time. we kept. we even discussed logistics in the studio. we specially controlled the bridges in order to the population could leave this settlement , plus there are, e, roads that lead. on the territory of the lugansk people's republic , uh, and people can be evacuated, uh, to these settlements , but at the same time, the ukrainian command has aimed all its artillery and there are a number of sections along all these roads, uh, which they just constantly inflict fire damage, this is done in order to to prevent us from evacuating people and delivering humanitarian aid. tell andrey vitalievich. by the way, this is an important aspect we know how often they are. well, we have mariupol experience. and how they speculate, uh, on these very civilians who, for one reason or another,

ended up, uh, in the industrial zone, according to your data, there are civilians in this very pro zone. and if yes, then they have the opportunity to leave, or rather, so you provide this opportunity. we constantly provide this opportunity. the fact is that the city of severodonetsk is divided into two parts. all of our troops are already on the outskirts, the industrial zone. uh, periodically through open communications, we we are trying to contact the ukrainian e-command with those who are at this enterprise and say that we guarantee the safe evacuation of people from this enterprise, but in essence. now there is a group of armed formations of ukraine which, in fact, turned out to be between a rock and a hard place on the one hand. uh, the people's militia is crushing them. uh, moving forward, but on the other

side. e, with the direction of the settlement of lisichansk, there, where it was just possible to transport people, there are so-called barriers units that do not allow the retreat of this grouping. they are held hostage only. uh, let's say the right way is to lay down their arms, and we guarantee their lives, but again, the leadership of ukraine does not give them such permission. uh, for primarily a political reason. the fact is that the settlement. e, severodonetsk - this is done as the center of the luhansk region, and they associate it politically with the center. that is, if earlier, before 2014, it was lugansk , then temporarily, as if all administrative buildings were moved to settlements, severodonetsk, and with the loss of this city, it will be possible to say that the luhansk region does not exist, and they, uh, understand this very well.

clearly short. tell andrei vitalievich your understanding of your interpretation. here are these attacks on donetsk. well, this is a scorched earth tactic, which i spoke about earlier. both on the territory of the lugansk people's republic, it is used by the armed formations of ukraine and on the territory of the donetsk people's republic, the main plan is to inflict as much damage and destruction as possible in order to weaken the economy of both the republics and the russian federation thank you very much. andrei vitalyevich andrei marochka was in direct contact with us with the lieutenant colonel of the people's militia. uh, dnr means, uh, meanwhile, the westerners themselves. the media write to us that the ukrainian army daily. but let's see, by the way, this video is very interesting, how would it be, this is a war from the other side through the eyes of the enemy. these are the ones that are blocked. well, show us a little more. these are the very blocked ones, which means that the banderia of the industrial zone in the industrial zone, severodonetsk repeat. it's on the other side, how would it be a war?

here are the eyes. this is how it looks. this is what the zone looks like. this is what they look like so to speak, and their actions. something like this, we return back to the british, the very ones who wrote that actually. uh, this may be the last last, so to speak, battle of the ukrainian armed forces. and here deguardien informs, that all this, can translate. well, to put it delicately, the turning point in the conflict. accordingly, there will be no pseudo may be the last one. let's do the last battle for the vefoushnikov. yes, yes, everything is clear. uh, here you need to understand it will not. and what else do we need for this vasilyevich is the main battle, but, unfortunately, she will not be the last to tell e quite a powerful garrison in the area. according to the british 40.000, or rather, it is from 40 to there they

fled. now i'm not talking about the loss, which they treat so here too. please note that from 600 to 1.000. that is, they consider ukrainians to be packets of packets. here, but they are experiencing that the war to the last ukrainian, which was not started, approaches this very last ukrainian and they, what is called in the ranks, the chest of this last ukrainian already see the last. what to do next is not clear, but we certainly do not need to relax. we understand that this is far from being the last battle of a special operation that powerful areas are organized. here. eh, it's very difficult. now the situation is unconditional, near kharkov, too, it will be necessary to approach it very precisely and very competently. driving nikolaev odessa there historical buildings unclear. we are not them we always remember the humanitarian component, and again. well

, now vasily is what dima said, listen, one side is waging a total war, and the other is a special military operation. uh, well, we can’t do it any other way, because, firstly, we protect the civilian population of soldiers and they refused the territory. they are hitting someone else's territory to burn out the facts, they refused to restore the normal ukrainian authorities on the territory, which we will give the opportunity to choose a topic for the ukrainians, who will purged of profanity. so understood. we will continue georg for sure now, it’s just that semyon pegov, the head of the military commander project, is directly communicating with us. you can say already legendary or too early, if you say hello. but why such big words agreed? okay, where are you? please, and tell me what you see. because we move from front to front. until we get better, to be honest, it’s like our

location for now, what to invite, given the specifics of actions, including vile, but ukrainian neo-nazis, and we sit carefully and work of our team works in the slavic direction. for us, this is one of the most important areas, because it was slavyanskaya that was famously marked by the russian spring in the donbass. remember, and what this city meant for many of us for the same motorola legendary for the same vohi, and the second battalion commander with a desk, who died heroically under the wave, and we all, of course, do not read back there. i was one of the last to leave this city, and i left, when the unit actually left the city fields like you remember was in a complete environment. and here is the pain that we then experienced and er, having lost this symbol in many respects russian spring. that moment, of course, she's here all 8 years old. e didn’t give

rest to any of us even now when the troops, e people’s militia of the dpr of the luhansk a-a people’s militia, also, of course, our russian troops are already coming , e, close to slavyansk. uh, we think it 's right to be somewhere along these lines to work there. and what about the situation? here, not so long ago, i visited svyatogorsk, too, very a significant and holy place for all orthodox, and also symbolic. it has always been associated , including with the russian spring and, in general, up to slavyansk in fact. things were within reach and information that an assault had begun, but according to my information, this is who we talked to in the field. uh, who did we talk to directly on the line of contact to say that our assault units went directly to slavyansk to show that it’s too early, but outside the city they are really deploying beyond its suburbs along it e strikes at the ukre about the district apu in

the area. and pardon the tautology. there are many such names of paradise aleksandrovka district town. uh. here are the suburbs of slavyansk where? naturally vsu, as well as on the principle. uh, i ’m making direct associations with mariupol. i’ll explain why, because here, where the population in the donbass cities is as pro-russian as possible, we’ll talk about sold-air, basket and anti-e, kiev, let’s say, anti-maidan has always been strong in these cities. uh, when did these uh, in in order still in the fourteenth, in the fifteenth years? yes, these cities, they usually turn into fortresses, so that we have to liberate them as hard as possible and the population, uh, which is connected slavyanskaya, belongs to such cities, which you, uh, describe there is no doubt i have tea a bunch of guys from slavyansk here in those liberated

cities, uh , and well, a woman. they say. so, when, when, when you meet these people, you understand perfectly well that the population in slavyansk is really for us and initially it was for us for 8 years. i actually had to be. here are the shooters of the unit, but this is our city by far. this is a city, uh, russian city, russian. they think of themselves as part of russia, let me remind you. there the referendum was still held here it was in the fourteenth. yes, since then, of course, you remember how with mariupol. yes, as it were, which, too, in the fourteenth year of azov, so to speak, e crushed. azov, so to speak, along the paths of repression, absolutely hellish, so to speak, and now he did, as if his own yes, well, that is, this, so to speak, did not pass. a trace for this time, so to speak, of course, but nevertheless

, even in mariupo. le, nevertheless, for us here. what do you want? what could it be? a certain kind of catch and high tactics that we must be prepared for, uh, there is preliminary information that some of the units from outside slavyansk are still being withdrawn. yes, but this may be a trap, in the sense that repeatedly. they did so on separate sectors of the front, they gave away one or another settlement without any special, not fierce resistance, as soon as for joy. uh, our assault squads went there, equipment, commanders came in, they drove in there, a massive arte raid began. in general, they were lured into such a trap. this is not my bag, and er, in general, there were quite a few such situations during all these several months of the military operation. and, of course, here, too, it is necessary to act competently for additional reconnaissance to understand where, if anything, they will be able to inflict these very

artillery strikes be ready for it. well, nevertheless, to fulfill our task, but we are still on. there is information on the track now, literally at night artemov, lisichansk passed me. actually, the grouping is so high, which is in lisichansk, hmm, now it’s blocked. i mean , and at the same time, this allows me to develop the offensive against slavyansk more successfully, too . 100 brigades. literally the day before, they made a breach, and in the defense they made such a march, a jerk 7 km long, the hundredth brigade, heroic, where they command. eh, kombrik wind. uh, a man who was wounded just a few days ago, and a brigade commander, yes, instead of staying in the hospital. e, left me part of

e to say, e just got into the car, went to the guys on the front line, led the offensive. brigades and succeeded. these are really such people, our armies are based on such people. and, of course, it's great to be told about it. i say what you need e began broadcasting with words about the string and said, e and you insist that we have a lot of such people and this makes us proud. and here is another name for the wind, and i repeat such names, and there are very, very, very many such call signs, and thank god and thank you. thank you very much semyon semyon pegov was in direct contact with us from somewhere near slavyansk. more precisely, he did not speak from quite rightly . well, you see, the battles are already on the way to this symbolically and historically and strategically important settlement. now. let's see a fragment of the morning briefing of the ministry of defense of the russian federation well, let's discuss, please, after the fire

training, the offensive of russian troops in the area of ​​\u200b\u200bthe settlement of novomikhailovka of the donetsk people's republic more than 30 servicemen 25. the 54th battalion of the mechanized brigade and the armed forces of ukraine decided to lay down their arms a stronghold in the fur farm area. ukrainian servicemen applied via radio to the command of the russian units to cease fire and provide a corridor for exit at about 22:00, the military personnel of the armed forces of ukraine with white flags began to advance towards the russian positions at that moment, their units arrived at the strong point on armored vehicles behind the ukrainian nationalist grenade squad opened on the military personnel of the fifty-fourth brigade of the armed forces ukraine, crossfire in the back as a result of this execution , 32 ukrainian servicemen were fatally wounded and killed. the incident, like many others like it, clearly show that against the backdrop of growing military failures and the demoralization of the ukrainian troops of kiev. the socialist regime is trying to

stop the retreat and the surrender of its units by the punitive actions of the legislators. the lives of ukrainian servicemen and mobilized fighters of territorial defense units mean nothing to the current leadership of ukraine. yes listen well, of course, it's horse- 32 corpses at once broads. i looked at this moment gevorg, when he heard this in horror, in fact georg shrugged his shoulders quite so to speak. well , tell me, please, they are not their own , not strangers. it’s just that there’s some kind of tin, because it’s normal. you don’t expect anything else from the nazis. you do not expect from them a humane attitude not to their own or to strangers for them all consumables, either for ideological reasons, because they hate us, or because they pay for it with a village. generously his boo - his future entourage from the quarter is here now i see it now now it is clear.

see how i understand myself. yes, maybe naively, a little, but still, okay, there are civilians, residents who can be interpreted somehow like this, well, damn russian collaborators. there is someone they call us there, uh, the colorados are monsters, but this is also but it fits into some kind of logical construction, so to speak, it’s good comrades. yes, well, those who have made the decision, so to speak, lay down their arms. yes, okay, and just imagine, here you turn your back, and i i shoot my back, yegor, or vasily yuryevich or dmitry or andrei genna, how it is generally very simple today, more and more privates and not only privates. uh, the armed forces of ukraine understand that everything is yes, that, yes, a special war, the operation drags on for a long time after severodonetsk will be slavyansk after slavyansk nikolaev after nikolaev odessa kharkov and so on, but the ukrainian regime is doomed. yes , just how long it will last, and naturally, people who are fighting for this regime do not understand what

they are cooking for. they want to be doomed with them they surrender, but if now a significant part of the vushniks learns that their comrade is surrendering in droves by tens of hundreds of fighters. everything will crumble and slavyansk will be much easier to liberate and nikolaev odessa, and so on, zelensky has a completely different task for him, his american regional committee clearly set the task of at least holding out until november, i don’t know until november until the midterm congressional elections, so that the democrats would go . yes, preferably longer, maybe a year can really be spent for exhausting the russian economy and making money in the russian federation, you say, i just listen to you and now i remember that you are saying that, as at the beginning, you said that you should go. we must succumb to this provocation. now i'm thinking, the more i imagine this, it means a mother with an eleven-year-old boy who died when i imagine, i'm not even them me when i imagine their father, who came to

this place with his brother, but imagine this scary to imagine. well imagine on give me a sec. i think to hell with this pr. let the whole world walk and make these faces around the smoking ruins, wherever the question here is not only together, not only retribution , here the question of the information component, if the russian federation strikes and destroys not the government or the cabinet of ministers to hell with them. let them sit in the building of the sbu, the building of the general staff of the building of the ministry of defense, you can’t hide this from the ukrainian military personnel if the ukrainian military understands that the russian federation has reached the handle and already destroys the building. it is where decisions are made that one must somehow run away and surrender, because the russian bear has already passed it all. he was really pissed off, he should be pissed off already. if now vasilyevich, tell me just to get a message that the third time in the morning. uh, it means that in the armed formations of ukraine, the dpr fired at the dpr, fired about ten e, missiles,

a system of citizens in the next. yes, these are terrorists, please, i don’t agree with you case, i also support striking the center to make a decision. i really want to see the destroyed building of the ministry of defense of ukraine along with the floor where nato employees are sitting with them , yes, and when they come and there will be a basement there with their tongues and clapping their eyes and showing the destroyed building. we will explain through all information channels what kind of building this is and how they say, for what, but about those who surrendered and who were shot vilely in the back. i will say one more thing. we are now and absolutely right the week of national battalions vsu, we don’t understand their varieties, but the people there are still different among people, some have different eyes. what is this regime doing, and they no longer want to associate themselves with this regime. well,

the third part. it is very important. let them be given. let this be what kanashakov told. sometimes it happens, but they decided yes in the back 32 corpses at a time. so antosha is a very important point. they are left with the choice of either opening their eyes or closing them entirely, and they choose to walk with their eyes open. the problem is that even if your eyes are open. you understand the horror of what is happening. you understand that, lord, whom the mother has turned into, the future artilleryman speaks of herself, who shells the market in donetsk and i draw your attention, i draw your attention to the fact that there are several conventions for war. it is always terrible and scary, but even in the geneva conventions, what is written is given. definition, and that it is impossible to violate the rules and customs of warfare and that war has its own customs, its own rules, its code of honor and so on, you understand, but customs, and these scum. so here you are standing and talking and artil only mom, lord, what have i become. you try to make unity right, an honest noble decision,

namely to lay down your arms so as not to examine civilians , and these bastards shoot in your back and infect 32 people like that, no one bothers them shoot the troops, then hand over just a couple of words. here, in continuation, uh, replicas i agree completely, but i would like to pay attention to what else against this background, when kiev gives the order to destroy those who decided to surrender against the backdrop of this americans. they say we are 1.5 billion dollars monthly. we will pay the salary of the ukrainian authorities. not this money goes to the maintenance of the ukrainian authorities. and this money goes not to solve some humanitarian issues or to solve some problems of the inhabitants of ukraine, but precisely for the maintenance of power. but it actually says it, well, we're already here in this studio retaking something to be surprised at. but that's one more thing. so the cynicism of the cynicism of the ukrainian authorities and

their western partners and patrons, you understand what a significant part of it is, yes, ukrainian where killed, they are missing, that is, ukrainians receive billions of dollars for their salaries, but they do not give this money to the relatives of the dead ukrainian servicemen, such as went missing, so as not to pay. yes, but for the government. yes, so to speak in power. of course money, one and a half billion is fine. so now friends. excuse me, this is donetsk on a direct line from the donetsk military correspondent rostislav marsov. hello. thank you for visiting, what is happening in donetsk now continues or shelling, what exactly is being subjected to them is good, but good afternoon anatoly yesterday i arrived from the front line and witnessed a terrorist attack, otherwise you can’t call the shelling of donetsk because about 600 artillery shells flew towards the peaceful city, hitting it with a tornado like a hurricane. these are reactive systems behind the fire, which works in squares

; it is literally impossible to conduct any aimed fire from them. as i arrived, i had lunch in a cafe and witnessed how people threw food, people stopped in cars, ran out to the shelter in the shelters, the entrances were women who would both be afraid, their hands were shaking, someone had babies who were also afraid, stuttering from what was happening on the street, because it constantly flew in constantly whistling constantly constantly arriving explosion, and we literally our film set the group had to fall to the ground and together with the grandmother, whom we interviewed. eh, well, take cover with a shell. and now what is happening? rostislav and now, in the morning, arrivals were also heard, so far, the information is being specified exactly where it was, but in donetsk is still unsafe, and because of the defeats in the luhansk direction, the ukrainian authorities come to the method of terror terror of the civilian

population. and so i talked to the soldiers and asked a question. for what they are fighting, they are easily responsible that they are fighting so that their houses are not shelled, so that the place is miners, yes, the miners said that their houses were destroyed from the artillery strikes of the ukrainian army. their mines are also destroyed. thank you very much. uh, vyacheslav mars was in direct contact with us from donetskskaya from the very center. well, how quite rightly noted the deputy for the spread of russia with e, with he - it was such, so to speak, bitter bitter, irony and a rhetorical question also filled with bitterness. and where are all these i'm quoting his tweet almost verbatim. and where are all these bbcs of yours, where are these all your raters, figurines and so on, which you remember, which are already worn there. well, do you remember that in the bucha they were a whole brigade photographing a cat against the background of destruction, that in mariupol, as you wrote, how they sobbed over every article, how she has all the newspaper sheets. there were even on the internet. so, buried in

tears. at least one bastard. at least one word about it about everything said correctly the answer do not think no, only he, so to speak, e in such a correct style. e, therefore, shared the idea that it would be good for all parties to the conflict to collect , so to speak, humanitarian law, and also not to violate it. and why do i mean that all the same, blows in the forest do not remain unanswered. the ministry of defense showed the work of multiple launch rocket systems. a tornado of fire, though not on buildings, about which gevorg and vasilyevich spoke. well, after all, in the warehouses with weapons and ammunition of the all-union, you see on your screens how this happens? ah, in addition, the crew of the frigate of the black sea fleet, because of which the black sea carried out a salvo launch of four caliber cruise missiles at the military infrastructure of ukraine, and glory flew. to god, our ministry of defense also showed footage of the destruction of the stronghold by k52 helicopters.

look. with god well, and most importantly, in general, water in all this means that ukraine continues to ask for weapons from west why do we need that very picture of the ruins smoking there? whatever it was in kiev well , including for this, the adviser to the head of zelensky's office, mikhail podoliak, on social networks, listed what, in his opinion, the kiev regime should receive from the west a thousand thousand 155-mm howitzers 300, but you see on the screens rszo 500 tanks 2,000 units of armored vehicles, a thousand drones, etc. dmitry a-a. in your opinion, firstly, how

realistic are these demands or requests? i don't even know what to call it next in order to train the composition for this type of weaponry, it will take quite a long time. here are 1.000 drones, just the question of which one? like a drone is needed with this, in fact it is important aspect, but in general with howitzers in general in the number of such in the european union, there can be very big problems in them. just pure composition as well. states, as it were, will not give their normal ones. naturally, they are now giving away european ones, and as if let's give european ones, uh, conditionally, the picture is here, if we are talking about about the meaning of this very pr, it’s not easy to enjoy the sight of the blood of civilians. if, indeed, this picture of smoking ruins in kiev could intensify these deliveries, i don’t know, thousands per 500 windows of opportunity so that you have the main part of the sanctions impact. it means to act in the horizon for about 6-8 months. well, before six

months, the main part of us is fundamentally armed, that is, preparation, as if to finish right within three to four weeks. here, indeed, is, as it were, the composition, as it were, of the weapons there that are now taking place in the baltic states, here, but serious deliveries even there, taking into account everything else in this horizon for about a few months, that is, what will be done in time for the summer campaign? so here we must also understand that, accordingly, no one absolutely needs military actions in the horizon of years. it's very important to understand, it's very important to understand that we have timings, we have them. we are slowly grinding, but there are timings, and in 10 it will be, of course, of course. we simply determine the terms in advance so that it is clear, 10 years 5 years, 2 years is also not very ok, so the problem is the following , the problem is that now, before the corresponding autumn period, it is necessary to maximize the negotiating positions, including who will achieve their goals during these few months, including within the framework of the military operation. what is a goal? ah, the goal of ukraine, respectively