poorly clear, we are developing cooperation, we support almost all of your position without any reservations, so the americans have prospects for chinese russian relations. now they will not be able to knock down zero prospects. china from this course. moreover, we will not be able to calm down europe, which is now really worried. we put everything on the altar of the fight against russia a. they are quietly developing powerful cooperation with china there, and india there, and asia there, and africa, and these are the statements that were made by our president, especially the chinese one. they talk about being europeans. you seem to be losing everything that you can only lose absolutely. and i also remind you that recently there have been a huge number of publications in the west that the prolongation of the ukrainian conflict is supposedly. will it lead

to a change in china's position towards russia and that russia is supposedly becoming such a burden for china, you know? yes, the seat stump miscalculated. and now he will start to somehow crawl away, or something, yes, to distance himself from russia nothing of the kind current. uh, the current negotiations and the statements that the parties made have dotted the and but here's something else that's very interesting. this is what andrei andreevich is here. i am addressing you, and the most strategically thinking politicians are experts in the west, who talk about the need to end the conflict in ukraine as soon as possible and still search and find someone, and let it be confrontational, but not very confrontational, the fashion with vivende with russia is connected precisely with the chinese factor . that's about it in particular in his recent interview, and british historian niall ferguson. said

henry kinsinger, patriarch of american politics, former secretary of state and, uh, former national security adviser, listen to the old man. the question now will be how to end this war, in the end there must be a place for ukraine and a place for russia if we don't want russia to become china's outpost in europe , expecting china to become part of the west is no longer a credible strategy. i don't think china for itself is considering the concept world domination. but it may happen, so he really will become extremely powerful, and this is not in our interests. and the fact that russia will become china's outpost in europe is, of course, an exaggeration. but the fact that the russian chinese tandem is their partnership, which has no borders, but forms a consolidated greater eurasia as a single geopolitical unit, and the combined

resources, which obviously exceed the resources. china, it seems to me, indisputably, and this is precisely henry's geopolitical nightmare against which he constantly assumed e warned, yes, and he is right that, but if this tandem consolidates, then the question of world leadership. yes, the question of, more precisely, uh, the question of the world leadership of the united states will simply be removed from the agenda, and the question will be put on the agenda for something else. e global leadership. how do you think? i think that henry keysinger belongs to that generation of american politicians who, in a few copies, literally. now present in the political arena, and with its one could agree with the assessment if, relatively speaking, we made the decision for the united states . i can name these

people. he is invited to influential forums, most often in the form of a picture on a television screen, since he himself no longer travels. they listen to his assessments, but rather you know, like the instruction of such a master yod from the star wars movie, and you apply it to your life and understand that in that ideological trend saturated with emotions, value pumped up by american politics, what he's talking about can no longer be material for realpolitik in 1914, kesinger wrote a column on ways and means of resolving the ukrainian crisis. the central thought was that ukraine should not become an outpost. west against russia, it must stop with a bridge. we should not support its militarization and so on and so forth this column was drowned in a list of other emotional exclamations dominated and then the hawks who said that

on the contrary, we must provide worldwide support to ukraine and prepare its armed forces for it to return donbass, we see what it has led to. this is the kissenger line. there is a lot of speculation about china becoming the central actor in world politics. i'm from the fact that, due to its size, it spreads gravity around itself is the center of gravity for everyone else, this is already impossible to ignore, but in washington, many still have the illusion that you can somehow get to chickpeas or carrots affect this huge center of gravity, which is simply insensitive, but ignores these impulses. he no longer speaks this language even, and i believe that the theses that formed the basis of er, the russian chinese declaration. about the polycenter-multipolarity of the new world order of the ninety-seventh year, that russia, china is building a new type of relationship, not directed against

third countries on the principles of equality, not interference in internal affairs, respect for mutual interests. i assume this is a node? core center of a new design of international relations, which will gradually join other centers of power do not agree. uh, with this line of diktat on this ideological discipline, which is now very actively seen by washington. and unfortunately for the united states , people like an engineer’s brush could take a sober look at the international situation, and take the necessary steps and build communication in the right intonation as with russia, so to speak, with china, avoiding the impasse in which the united states is now, but they are not. yes you right, and uh, in fact, that is why the united states is pursuing the policy that leads to the realization of the geopolitical nightmare, kissinger, consolidation by greater eurasia and marginalization as a result of the united states, i completely agree with the

importance, but this russian chinese declaration of the ninety-seventh year on a multipolar world and the new world order, the united states , in principle, ignore. and then this is a very important event, and not only russian-chinese relations. how much truly world order they perceive the russian and chinese approaches as a kind of challenge yes, as a challenge, as an obstacle to what they perceive as the world order, but the problem for them is that this is the emerging world order , an obstacle for which they are already themselves, united states but a illustrations. just what, uh, as you rightly said, recommendations to the kissenger recommendations, and today in the united states they are little heeded at the official level, is the continuation of their policy of pumping ukraine with weapons, thereby prolonging this fire the ukrainian regime of prolonging the ukrainian conflict, the further the better. i already said at the

beginning that the third one took place in brussels today. uh, the meeting of the so-called contact group on support for ukraine chaired there, uh, invariably uh, united states secretary of defense floyd austin, still unofficially. this group is called the rammstein group because the first meeting took place in german, more precisely american yes , at an american air base, and rammstein and i must say that this is the third meeting of the group passed very. ah, such, but pessimistic and even i would say, dejected by the psychological atmosphere, but, because at the official level now about, and the defeat of russia somehow already stopped talking on the contrary, a huge number of publications in the united states and in the west as a whole and a large the number of even official statements that ukraine is suffering a very cruel defeat that ukraine is in a desperate situation. a and. uh, in the

foreseeable future, in principle, maybe, maybe, here jens stoltenberg, deputy, general secretary. before the start of this meeting, he said that ukraine is in a critical situation. there is an urgent need for support. yes, if this support is not provided, then ukraine will lose a and. a. in this regard, many people in the west are wondering what to do? and it seems to me that he formulated it very correctly. uh, that dima, in front of which the collective west turned out to be a well-known newspaper columnist, the new york times, steven erlanger. and who said that the current uh, the continuation of the current policy, it is not going anywhere leads, but because the limited supply of weapons. actually, they don't change the balance of power. e at the front. yes, they only slightly prolong the agony of ukraine, but inevitably ukraine will lose and the west as a result suffers a serious political

reputational defeat, etc. here is the erlanger. he says that it is necessary either at times qualitatively. yes, but he said twice, but increase, but the volume armaments and military equipment to ukraine and thereby still radically change the position of forces on earth. at the front, either you need to force ukraine to start peace talks and go, including some kind of a and some kind of agreement with russia a in favor of the first of these two options, yes, increasing supplies. uh, it says that for not only russia but also for the west itself, uh, this conflict has an existential character, because the actual future between the world order is at stake, as we have said many times

and ah, if the west loses, then it fails in its attempts to restore. and today, the commander-in-chief, the chief of the joint chiefs of staff, spoke very clearly about his global hegemony about this about the existential nature of the conflict for the west itself. uh, u.s. army general mark milli, listen to the international world order based on the rules the world order that has existed in the world since the second world war in order to avoid major military conflicts, this order turned out to be today the war is under threat and we will continue to support the ukrainians. well, this is being done not only against ukraine, but this is being done against the entire world order and the world community will not tolerate this aggression from russia, it will not

go unpunished, we will not allow strong countries to invade the territory of their neighbors with impunity. well, the problem is that it is impossible for ukraine to qualitatively increase the volume of weapons, because, firstly, there is nowhere to get it from. eh, the west itself has fallen significantly. e your reserves, especially european countries, but even the united states a. secondly, such a high-quality build-up of armaments can lead to an escalation of the conflict, horizontal escalations. what the biden administration and the nato leadership are actually opposed to, and to compromise to force ukraine to peace. they can't for political reputation. uh, the reasons turn out to be a dead end, isn’t it, yes, but, by the way, it must be said that this is also an opinion divided, because literally today the former us commander in chief and nato, uh, said that nato should directly intervene in the conflict, and in addition to, respectively,

supply military weapons and other hawks there, for example, they saw the example of poland, yaroslav kachchininsky also said that we should intervene. well, it’s more understandable that the ice is a dream to seize the territory of the eastern kres, western ukraine, and then western belarus, but at the same time, eh. there are more, uh, let’s say sensible minds, because those who speak out against this are the same jens stoltenberg, and even more arrestovich, and ukrainian politics are aware of the truth yesterday gorko admitted that the most likely position. the west is no longer about inflicting a military defeat on russia like 2 months ago, but about forcing russia to an agreement, but in certain weak positions for russia, and here to a large extent. i think this is due, but to the military-political successes of russia in recent days, because the world loves it very much. and even china waited for some time, and only our latest successes in e, during a special operation in ukraine, plus what we managed to capture by taking

to put part of the coast of ukraine, including kherson , under control of the export of grain, and, among other things, to add more food tools to their fuel tools. this has largely caused such pessimism in the west. and also the fact that china also ran with us. e hug, because after all, the country also pursues its own specific interests. well, you're right, er, in the west, there are indeed voices that call for the direct involvement of a military conflict. uh, this is yaroslav kachinsky. yes, he has never idea. yes, and wesley clark is the former commander-in-chief of the nato allied armed forces in europe, the same one under whom he led the nato bombing in yugoslavia in 1999. and, by the way, to say, in the summer of 1999, i gave the order to knock out russian paratroopers from uh, the pristina airfield, when they, uh, captured this airfield, that is, for wesley clark, uh, how to give orders that could lead to a

third world war, this not the first time not the first time, yes, but thank god now if clark is not, but an official, a and yet such a point of view is considered absolutely extreme and radical even in the united states. yet the biden administration at all levels, including the highest level, says that well, it is completely unacceptable to start a third world war. yes, you know, you very correctly said dead end dead end among the americans and their accomplices. but there is a third option to force uh to negotiate. not for the sake of negotiations or the radius of the position, but the radio of an operational pause, that is, to propose to start and at this time try, uh, raise to your feet and the whole mode. strengthen the supply of weapons, maybe some other means. well, in general, let's give it a

rest, because it's right, as everyone here says, uh, the situation is extremely difficult for the uh ukrainian army. and here is such and such an idea to slightly freeze slightly start negotiations. and there we will see it will be clear leonid petrovich really has gained popularity in the united states now. these temporary freezes of the conflict openly wrote about it. e. david ignatius. e famous washington post columnist yes, and the idea is really to give an opportunity ukraine recover under save up describes the korean scenario. yes, exactly, when an immense agreement is divided into two parts of the country, north and south korea, but it is just obvious that with such a division, the west is clearly from that stub of ukraine, which it will get to try to do again. uh, a russophobic project, which will then have to be knocked out on the basis of something and that for russia such a scenario is temporary and frosts are absolutely unacceptable, and not only because

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have never watched the voice. i say, i don’t know what to do there, the musician’s dad has a beard. and how does it come and how does it quickly go? premiere of basta my game on friday on first on the air is a big game we talked about that the united states is now in a very difficult situation, when, on the one hand, they cannot afford to increase arms supplies to ukraine so much that it would lead to a qualitative

change in the balance of forces at the front, but on the other hand, they cannot afford. a-a to exert political direct political pressure on ukraine and so that she makes concessions to russia, including territorial yes, and therefore, apparently. in the meantime, the biden administration rather prefers to go. ah. according to the principle. do you know crocodiles they fly, but not zenka, yes, that is, to continue the same approach to increase arms supplies to ukraine, but not at all so much that it changes the balance of power qualitatively. well, uh, so that someone from the west exerts political pressure on kiev, but also not a very short remark. you know it is very similar from history to help the entente to the white movement. when the entente supplied weapons, but with delays and not so much that in the end the white guard won. so i just removed the tongue, this is a very vivid analogy. yes, well, and we know, e even

from the memoirs of white generals. that the entente, uh, great britain yes, france, the united states, uh, substituted uh, white, not at the wrong time and in the wrong volume. yes, and this really reminds us of the situation with western arms supplies to ukraine, so here are the results of today's meeting. uh, in the scope, yes, and president biden announced a new $1 billion military aid package for ukraine, which includes shells for multiple launch rocket systems, two anti-ship missile systems, a harpoon, 18, howitzers 777 calibers, 155 mm, 36.000 ammunition. ah, and so on. yes, this is in accordance with official information from the pentagon. well, the washington post also writes that, most likely in the near future, the united states will transfer eight more

highmars missile defense systems to ukraine in addition to the four that have already been transferred, that is, there will be 12 in total, and the rszo system on the one hand. these are, of course, new arms deliveries, which will certainly prolong the military conflict and the agony of the kiev regime, but on the other hand, this is not at all what is required ukraine yes, just like this, uh, the entente gave dinin. ah, and uh, another leader of kolchak. eh not that, but they expected? yes, but what ukraine requires yes, let me remind you that the head of the office of the president of ukraine mikhail podolak, but put forward the following requirements. yes, just before the meeting in brussels of 1,000 howitzers. not eight, not 12, and not even 18,000, 155 mm howitzers, 300 rczo, not 12,300 rczo, but 500 tanks, uh 2,000 uh,

car broilers and 1,000 drones well, of course , this is absolutely unrealistic. yes, moreover but uh, this 300 rszo - this is half of all american stocks, and thousands of howitzers - this is the entire arsenal of the united states, yes, that is, uh, ukraine is actually asking the united states to collapse. yes, completely disarm. uh, for the sake of support, uh, ukraine and to give more volumes of qualitatively more volumes, the united states , of course, does not intend to talk about this directly today following the results of the meeting in brussels, but the secretary of defense in the united states austin said. listen, with a clear conscience, say that we give ukraine everything, what do they need about the number percent. this question is not for me. you can clarify. this is from the one who said it, but i can tell you, so general mile and i, this is not the first time we

have encountered a military conflict. and i'll tell you this, people always want to get more, there are never enough weapons. therefore, i perfectly understand why ukrainians say this, and for our part we try to do everything for them to the maximum . which in my opinion is boorish, especially in relation to the european countries of france and germany and e position united states on what we will substitute, but not as much as you ask. i think that on the first question, ukraine is primarily a normal post-soviet country, a country that lives in the logic of russia as much as possible, maybe you will get what you need and i would beware. right now, according to the information that we have, to judge whether it is enough or not enough of what the americans give, judging by what is happening on the ground, judging by what is happening on the ground, the ukrainian army

really lacks weapons military equipment and ammunition. but exactly what quantities this shortcoming is described by those that the podolak named or those that were called miles. i think somewhere in between. ah, that's why, in my opinion, we don't need to look at these deliveries now as something of little importance, because it will still fly to our people. there are 12 of them or 10 of them or 100 of them - it flies at our people. and it still drags out the conflict and it does. uh, possibly diplomatic regulation. by the way, please note that now at the very deed, and western leaders and western observers who talk about possible negotiations. they talk about the same thing about what was said there more at the end of march, and then they were, as far as

one can judge, they were categorically against any agreements. any negotiations, and it seems to me that from the point of view of what is happening now, after all, when they announce these deliveries, they address these words not only to ukrainians, they address them to us as well, therefore, on the one hand , kachin’s clarke should appear, waving shout with a sword. let's send troops there and, as i think clark put it, we will order, we will order russia to turn military operations, and on the other hand. uh, there are these really, from the ukrainian point of view, supplies are limited. that is, they show us that here we have radicals, but we still keep everything moderate. we try not to get involved in this conflict directly. actually a problem. it's just that this is the line beyond which comes direct involvement.

maybe very indistinguishable maybe very thin. and americans need to be reminded of this. as for ukraine's speeches to germany and france well, in my opinion. this is a completely ordinary style of ukrainian diplomacy, suffered through 30 years of independence, and here one can only be glad that this is now not our problem, but the problem of germany and france . that a characteristic feature of ukrainian diplomacy is the absolute absence of shame. oh yes. it's absolutely exactly. yes. uh, because uh, very often even official representatives of ukraine allow themselves to say that they would like to use

obscene language against their western donors. yes, but they don't test it. in this regard , there really is no vision and conscience, so to speak. well, how can you test for vision, well, short what's not? yes? again, historical sharply, if you remember, yes, when will the second world war end, a number of western politicians, uh, issued a plan according to which the anglo-american the troops were supposed to attack the ussr and even use, among other things, the formation of captured germans, but this was reproduced by the military generals because of our allies, because the red army in the forty-fifth year was the strongest army in the world. they're not really guys. we will not play with them, because it will result in huge losses, so the situation is the same here. that is, the more peaceful it will be. eh, now russia will be even more so. there is a high possibility of direct nato intervention and vice versa. the stronger will be our military and political successes in ukraine, the less will be the chance that someone will dare to intervene directly, not only with military supplies, but also with their own military. well, i agree, because

uh, really uh the rhetoric of the west uh and precisely the policy of the west has changed significantly uh after the undeniable successes of russia uh in the donbass and i also agree. with nikolai yuryevich, which of course, well, we do not need to underestimate the significance of these supplies in any way, the united states is deliberately betting on the escalation of the military conflict, but the biden administration. i would like to limit this escalation to the borders of ukraine and in every possible way prevent its escalation outside ukraine. they believe that, uh, such a restriction on the volume of deliveries, and the refusal to implement all ukraine's requests will help to avoid this escalation. but i also fully agree that the line is very thin and when the united states says that they will not only supply even more missile defense systems, but is this information that will be used to

strike with these rcds when the united states openly says officially that their military is conducting offensive cyber operations against russia. yes, we understand that we are very close to this line, when we can really get, unintended for the biden administration, a direct conflict between russia and nato but really. uh, here are the arms deliveries. this is just a tool, but a tool that should pursue a specific political goal. moreover, this goal should be not only in relation to russia but weakening russia exhausting russia but also the goal in relation to ukraine and there must also be an understanding of how much the goal of weakening is. e russia is realistic. as for the purpose of western policy, it seems to me that very serious faults have already formed here. e within western society and within the western community and within western states. well,

here, and for example, uh, the reuters publication with the reuters agency says that only in europe today there are three groups of countries that have been formed, but which u are promoting enough different approaches to the ukraine conflict listen as western governments grapple with rising inflation and energy prices, italy and hungary have called for a quick end. this fire may help ease sanctions and end the blockade of ukrainian ports, which will exacerbate the food security crisis for the poorest segments of the world's population, nevertheless ukraine poland and the baltic countries. they warn that russia cannot be trusted and approve the termination. fire will allow it will gain a foothold in the occupied territories, and will also provide an opportunity to regroup and launch new attacks in the future germany and france are still ambivalent. they are more likely not to let putin

win than to win over him, but at the same time they support the introduction of new sanctions against him all this time, and stanislav pavlovich, but it seems to me as this conflict drags on, and thanks to american policy and and as the europeans will experience more and more. economic difficulties in both energy and area of ​​food in the area of ​​inflation. uh, in general, uh, these splits within europe, they will become, only deeper, i'm right. well, absolutely right. it's like if we in the military sphere know about the tankin incident. yes, that was before the start of the vietnam war, when they also didn’t want to fully get involved, they thought slowly, and then, as a result, they got involved in the same thing in the economy. at first they thought that there would not be a full-fledged economic war, but it is becoming more and more large-scale and despite the fact that it has not yet entered into force. sanction decision taken. there on the corner. it will be in august for oil in six months and for oil products in eight months. and already now the problem is very much and already now there is a split.

there is an understanding in a number of countries that, well, as if further into the forest there will be more firewood. and what to do with this inflation, it is not clear people are used to living in a completely different psychological and material way, as if the climate is not the same people who remember the second world war or relatives there. remember this is not the situation of the seventy-third year, when people knew it had been even worse recently. already now people are accustomed to living in a consumerist society , discussing which people are better to buy there, i don’t know the products, i don’t know some clothes or some kind of electronics, but they need to be discussed here. uh, how to live in conditions where you can not only go to war, but also live in conditions where gasoline is expensive for any transportation, expensive in the world, the largest diesel crisis is underway, a lot of mistakes have been made in their energy in the field of energy transition. that is, now we have to to turn the opposite side for several years they were told that it was necessary to close all e, own deposits of power plants operating on traditional fuel. now we have to go the other way in a number of countries - it's just some kind of clowning. for example, when the examples of spain first sign documents that actually

block gas production in all the territories of spain, then in a few months exactly the opposite steps must be taken. but and so on, the impression is the absence of a strategy. and here also during the fighting action situation is changing. they also weigh wrote that, in fact, ukraine can win? remember, of course, and so barrel said, yes, that ukraine must win in the theater. yes, but now, in the absence of this very strategy , it is not clear, so what is victory? formal indicators for production hit or inflation for devaluation, so that they could be counted as a victory, put a tick, there are no such results either, china or indies should join the economic war against russia, this also does not happen russia in 3 months. it jumped from tenth to second place in terms of oil supplies to india, and it is obvious that india does not give up its strategic independence, but under china, we already spoke at the beginning of the program. i hope that maybe during the st. petersburg economic forum. here are at least some hints made about the acceleration of our new pipeline

projects to china i hope that at least, if not a contract, at least a movement towards a contract, would open siberia 2 unequivocally across the amur bridge. quite right, and the oil wire. here are three that should be started to be discussed, taking into account the ve-taiwan case that was mentioned. i think this is all the more relevant for china, because otherwise this is all oil and gas supplies, it turns out to be at risk for china. i think that there will be many such moments, especially when they start discussing stories related to food with metals. uh now in america, it means that some kind of panic has gone, that, it turns out, there is not enough enriched uranium, and they did not deliberately exclude an enriched wound, where russia is one of the main players. it is not ordinary on the market, probably just enriched. america closed the enterprises that did these things , while i need volume, and they excluded the enriched role, they excluded fertilizers, which means there were rumors that there is some kind of unofficial energy diplomacy that negotiates with the russians, which means our export fertilizers walked, because now in europe they do such things. it's just not economically viable. russia

is now just actually opening up a huge niche that just needs to be filled. i mean the fertilizer that is made from gas and that the whole world needs now, given the impending food code. and it is also connected with migration. well, that's all. rest. well, we will talk about sanctions in more detail a little later, we will talk about changes in the american approach to sanctions. but here's the position on the settlement ukrainian conflict, then yes in europe we see a lack of consensus and several points of view in the united states yes, and the situation is also ambiguous. on the one hand, at the official level, the american position remains unchanged in the form in which joe biden formulated it recently, and in his article in the new york times, and it is that, well, no pressure on ukraine yes, no pressure on ukraine let the ukrainians decide when to start negotiations. what is there to say? and uh, what could be the final deal, but by the way, uh, joe biden did not mention the territorial integrity of ukraine in this article, yes. that is, he left here,

indeed. many say that russia and ukraine should be ready to make territorial concessions. naturally. it means, yes, yes, this is, but this is the official position of the united states as far as the unofficial positions are concerned. in america, too, it seems to me from the point of view. hawks who are still with i agree, yes and the point of view of realists, who so far remain in the minority, and among hawks, for example, hillary clinton yes, who still believes that russia must suffer a military defeat, that e macron, who says that russia should not be humiliated, is wrong. yes and here is actually a quote from hillary clinton and many others, but official former officials, but uh to me, uh, returning to what you said, but about what victory is yes, that’s the most interesting point of view well-known

american expert of polish origin andrew mihta, who works in the center of george marshal a in e. in europe, yes, but american uh, political scientist on why the united states needs to continue to help ukraine why the united states ? you can't make any compromises with russia, so listen to what andrew mikhta writes. the defense of ukraine concerns not only its national sovereignty and territorial integrity, historically two fundamental principles of democratic governance, but also the eventual expulsion of russia from europe , ending its three hundred years of imperial expansion. the independence of ukraine and, accordingly, belarus , since once ukraine defends its sovereignty and territorial integrity, minsk will not remain long in moscow's orbit and will put an end to russia's claims to the role of a key

eurasian power in europe in this way for the first time in modern times. this will force moscow to take the necessary political and economic steps to become a normal nation-state. andrei andreevich here it is. it seems to me, yes, here is the key wording ukraine needs to be helped in order to knock russia out of europe, which is completely contrary to the approach that said that it is precisely this that must be feared and this must be prevented. yes, and secondly, to turn russia into a normal nation-state, as andrew mihta wrote, which in american terminology implies that russia should not only give up some kind of preferential role in the post-soviet space. yes, but also stop in essence, how to be an empire, as mikhta wrote, yes, that is, to grant independence to all non-russian republics, but on on the territory of the russian federation you agree you

know, commenting on, uh, the words of professor miht, i hmm want to say that my children also like very beautiful soap bubbles when they release. they burst so figuratively and do not last long. i think this statement reflects. eh, more like an instinctively emotional reaction of people who thought for a moment that russia made a mistake , miscalculated that it does not control or own. and what, there is some distant chance that ukraine is, uh, the probability of winning and hmm such people in a fair amount in the united states , there are even more of them in poland and this line of thought is so anti-russian russophobic in something that denies our country its legitimate right to be part of europe to be the main, dominant in the field of security in the eastern part . of course, it is present and i think that these are all

the moments of cloudiness, when barrel and stoltenberg said that the future crises will be determined on the battlefields, and not at the negotiating table. they were guided. here are these ideas, but i suppose what's easy. forcing this point of view that this crisis will definitely be a battlefield will lead to the fact that in russia they will agree with this. and he will indeed be determined on the battlefield. and that offer is necessarily in favor of the west. of course, and of course, that offer is quite generous. in my opinion, with which moscow spoke in march and in april against kiev, it will no longer be the same, and at the moment when russia decides that negotiations are possible, it will not come there, with the same list of proposals and as i recently wrote in telegram channel in his dmitry medvedev in a few years, there may be questions about subjectivity. will there be a negotiating partner, but i see in these

words something more in the united states, even if they were playing to freeze the crisis, now it is still necessary to antagonize russia and europe in order to use europe as a source of investment resources in order to use as their fodder base, in fact, many relations with non-western countries are closed for them, the logic of us-chinese relations, there will be no more the former and here is the game in which everyone won, uh, victory, victory is no longer possible, and they will now be forced to essentially cannibalize, and those in what form are their main allies of the europeans, and for this, in the long term, russia in the eyes of the europeans, should be an enemy, so i guess no matter how the ukrainian crisis develops. what will be the borders of ukraine, where exactly will the capital be, who will lead it on the horizon of the next, well, at least 10 years, we will see this the logic of the united states devouring its

european partners through. uh, in order to force europeans to overpay for energy resources for goods from an american manufacturer. uh, by balancing courses, uh, by imposing military industrial contracts, and eventually. this will lead to more and more of this, the departure of europe to a secondary role in world politics. and i think that's andrew mixta's point of view. it is against strategy. also in the interest of the united states itself the states simply, but create the prerequisites for a deeper defeat of ukraine and, accordingly, a more severe defeat of their reputational and political ones. secondly, uh yes, they are cannibalizing europe but as we just said europe is already beginning to feel that it has reached a certain limit and is starting to resist and thirdly yes, the united states is working on a delimitation of russia and europe but from a point in the

long run . this decoupling is unprofitable for the united states itself, because it leads to increased consolidation of greater eurasia as anti well, or at least not an american project, which the united states. there is little to oppose and they risk losing. ah, dominance. yes, they are losing the lead. they will lose him more. faster if you continue. yes, henry keesinger says the same about these tendencies, but alas, i agree that while in the united states, in the expert community and in political circles, the approach of daniel fried alexandra mixta adhere to the hawkish position of hillary clinton and not the point of view of the exissanger and other american realists. we will continue in a few moments. in the forties, the

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is expressed at the expert level, then in europe a. it sounds quite official and is expressed at the highest political level, for example, immanuel macron, uh, the president of france today. uh, while in romania, it’s true, then he already moved to moldova and tomorrow he might end up in ukraine, and today he again a declared the need for speedy negotiations between uh, moscow and kiev and the end of the current conflict, listen we want to fight to the bitter end end, but at the moment it must be said that we must do everything so that the fire ceases and negotiations resume. i told zelensky again that we europeans are dividing the continent. geography is stubborn russia is not going anywhere. russia was here yesterday , is today and will remain in the future, so i

never shared the approach, according to which today we will start a war with russia and tomorrow we will want to destroy it. well, that's even more interesting, in my opinion. uh, the fact that jose barrel is the head of the diplomacy of the european union, who just recently said that ukraine should win a military victory. today he says that he agrees with the macron, that yes, there is no need to humiliate russia and that russia and europe, whether we want it or not we want to remain neighbors, listen. how do you understand the phrase of president macron that we should not humiliate russia, this is not only said by emmanuel macron, this expression corresponds to reality. russia will continue to exist after the peace talks and will need to be clear. determine how we intend to coexist with it. this coexistence will be very difficult after what russia has done in ukraine, this invasion

, this aggression, this destruction of ukraine, we all saw it on tv every evening, and i myself was a witness. in place, but we still have to try to coexist with the russians on this continent nikolay yurievich well, uh, such a change in the rhetoric of the already official brussels because jose barrel represents the official structure of the european union represents the eu council the common foreign and security policy of the european union this is a change says that europe is exhausted, that she understands that she does not have the opportunity to lead the seventh. if she leads a package, then it will only be worse for herself, which she ran out of weapons. there, andrzej duda , the president of poland, said that poland transferred to ukraine the attention of all the tanks that poland had, just everything. and today poland does not have a single tank at all. and or is it some kind of sobering up and understanding that russia really will not be defeated; it will remain geographically, at

least in europe and, e.g., europe will have to somehow coexist with russia, in general. here is how you explain the similar dynamics of the european territory. well, they, of course, understood that e sanctions don't work because they expected the sanctions to hit them harder than they hit russia and uh, but have they changed their thinking about what's going on? i think that what is happening in what they say is not seen, first of all, a diplomatic game that is aimed at getting a ceasefire from us and drawing us into negotiations, that is, a freeze without a settlement. regulation with the possibility to arm ukraine during that time until the conflict is frozen. well, after that start over again. why do i think what they think? well, their way of thinking about it hasn't changed. you pay attention to this motif, which is repeated by so many people who obviously did not collude with each other. casey ger. we

must find a place for russia. we have to find russia a place. but we must order russia and macron, e we must there, as he put it. we must not humiliate russia, you know, you can humiliate those who are weaker than you. they proceed from the fact that they are the west, this is not at the rational level, it is at the level constructing a phrase literally. they proceed from the fact that they are the west and they determine who has what place in the world here, who is humiliated, who is not humiliated, i'm afraid that while they will reason in this way, that is, talk about, uh, based on the advice of unequal relations it will be impossible to negotiate anything with them. here. i think it's absolutely fundamental. yes, the west really proceeds from the fact that it still determines global development. uh, it still determines what place this or that

party should in this global world order. borrow? yes, and the west is very difficult to realize that the world is changing, in addition to the top. uh, will, uh of the collective west is indeed, a fundamental problem that absolutely defines the current contradiction further. look where he makes this statement he went. romania went to moldova and probably ukraine, that is, they calculate a lot. they understand that the southern direction of our actions is quite quite realistic nikolaev is coming after nikolaev nikolaev is coming odessa must mobilize everything that can be mobilized, in including romania romania is now secretly actively helping, yes, with spare parts for aircraft. where does all these moments of e and drying come from? here, romania through romania bulgaria through romania partially there moldavia old soviet aircraft and parts in a practical sense, this is the mobilization of those

who are in the southern direction, they can do something, so i completely agree with nikolaevich. these words are such a game. these are calculations for their public and for their population, which, in general, is also not all russophists say, far from all. here, on the other side. this is practical work, practical work with the future or current union chamber, we are not moldova, there is the issue of transnistria and there they will not let, uh, reunite. e russia from transnistria and so on, so trust these words here, e, macron and some figures like him, but it would be, but you don’t think that certain deeds and pressure on ukraine can follow these words, and now in what connection after all, the european union, and in particular the macron, scholz and dredge, which, according to information from western newspapers. tomorrow may be in kyiv and to negotiate zelensky they have.