a recession will not develop to the full extent, and this is a matter of months or there are many months, well months, until it stops there, it develops, a real recession that will highlight and stir up all the internal contradictions, the incredible internal contradictions that exist inside the west and which are now polishing a -a political system. uh, there's a credit system, and so on and so forth, until the whole thing stirs up. they will be all these various projects. e, they will continue, so i don’t see a contradiction in different, but negative for also for russia options. i think it's a compliment. and as far as ukraine is concerned, you quite rightly point out that there is a change in the western position a and very significant changes in the really western position. you used to say that we want uh, russia to lose in this. e in this

conflict. now they say no. we want to strengthen the negotiating positions of ukraine so that it can worthily agree, it seems that ukraine has not lost, so that ukraine has not lost and could some positions are worthy of agreeing for themselves. yes, this is a very serious change, but for us it has no practical significance yet, because the means to achieve both the first option and the second option are the same, pumping weapons into ukraine and continuing the conflict , or, uh, freezing it, and now all this uh, it means the situation of all this all this abscess, so that either its transformation into a conflict of the so-called low intensity, which will drag on endlessly of its own, continues. richard hass in the same article. and for us, this is one thing. and the other is unacceptable, so come with

all those serious advances that are taking place in the west. it is very important for us to keep track of them. it is very interesting to track them. it is clear that in the west some politicians start running around like cockroaches when the lights are turned on. and here's what's happening. it really is as realistic as turning on the light. they suddenly realize a lot of problems, but in practical terms, nothing has changed for us yet. they pour weapons into this conflict and there are no options for its completion by diplomatic means yet, which, in fact, was confirmed by today's visit. e european, i would say european trinity, and macron scholz and dredge in kiev andrey, by the way, only shortness. maybe, you know, i er two remarks. i think a month or two months ago. we discussed the question of what would happen if the west really began to

relocate rather large contingents right on the borders with russia, and if earlier they talked about the rotation of battalions, then as the general said blazhensky, i quote him from our good friend , colleague and military expert, now we are talking about placing 40.000 40.000. these are four divisions , you can almost imagine what it is, but therefore i want to say that these 40,000 will not be from any pre-front. old europe will not just sit there. it will be the italians. it must be the germans. it must be french. and this means that we perfectly do not remember you, you are much younger. i remember those massive anti-war demonstrations that shook europe in germany in northern europe in france and i think

that this will not leave anyone alone. if it really is. uh, it means that the concentration of huge forces on the border will increase the threat of war. and i think that the europeans just won't look at it first, so this is a serious problem, alas. unfortunately, we did such a stupid thing in 1997, but now we are reaping the rewards, but two more remarks the first. it seems to me that it does. well , where to give advice to good people. if not with our program, i think that probably. it would have to be some very serious statement. about, by the way, rsz. after all, as a matter of fact, if

they shoot rockets, at 30 km, or at 40 km, but for god's sake, this is also bad. but we seem to know how to deal with this, but we need a strict warning, despite the fact that biden spoke about this, but we need them to give certain mountains. it is they who must supply missiles that fire at 300 km and 500 km, and here, of course, on our part there must be very a clear statement, if such missiles are delivered and they shoot, then, of course, we will have a symmetrical non-symmetrical answer. that is, as we have repeatedly said, according to the places where they are delivered from and how it is there, and so on. this is an important question in english, this

is called and game. this is what you were talking about. uh, that is, it is in the end, what though the west wants what? i very often agree with you, but i do not agree with you here that the west does not want to defeat russia no, they understand that if not to defeat russia, he cannot be made an obedient tool. they want russia to return to the nineties. i have a beautiful image in the nineties. i have written about this in many speeches, i have compared the situation russia usa yeltsin bill clinton by the way how in the boxing clinch do you know when in the clinch? both, if exhausted, of course, they just hang on each other trying to relax, but the situation was completely different. america

came - it's like don corleone said, keep uh friends close to you, and enemies even closer the americans pressed us so close to their chest that we did not even think. we can stand on our feet, we can’t say until, by the way, in 2000 putin restored the subjectivity of russia, we stepped back and did not understand. from what generally monstrous. e, in general, e level, we must raise, raise and create for ourselves. in general, the institutions of the army, there are many other things, and therefore, i think that they would like, if they win, here. again, keep us in the clinch and guide us, because they do not need the collapse of russia because they are afraid gutters is unknown. what huge pieces, where

they will fall. uh, well, enderling votrebovich, it seems to me, very correctly answered that, including germany, uh, and other western european countries will deploy their military contingents in the countries of central eastern europe, and this leads me to another very alarming signal. actually a tectonic tectonic shift that we are seeing in the field of european security. this is a revision of germany's foreign policy traditions, but because germany abandons its post-war tradition. pacifism. germany is rearming and substantially rearming. at least deliberately rearm and that germany crosses out the seventy-year traditions of its foreign and security policy, this is what chancellor scholz said in kiev today in plain text with these words. listen he must germany has ended a long tradition, we

support ukraine with arms supplies and will continue this do until then. until ukraine stops needing our support, particular. we are already training the ukrainian military to operate the most modern german combat systems, tank howitzers on order 2.000 and anti-aircraft self-propelled cheetahs. i also promised to provide ukraine with the latest air defense system and missile defense systems, which are capable of protecting entire cities from air strikes. well, in the short term, probably, the biden administration can take credit for this, because the united states has long sought germany to help ukraine more actively, including with supplies weapons. and in general, he strengthened his military budgets. but here's what it will mean in the long run in a strategic perspective. here on this account already. many european and western experts are sounding the

alarm. listen, for example, to the opinion that he published in the magazine foren offers. uh president of the european council on foreign affairs mark leonard very famous european expert listen biden administration hopes that the war in ukraine will strengthen the global alliance democracy, putting russia china on the shoulder blades. but germany and japan are gaining momentum, which allows them to be more focused on their own regional security, the changes taking place in berlin and tokyo suggest that a different relationship is brewing on the horizon, more balanced than the alliances created and maintained by washington in the post-war era, since as the relative importance of us defense contributions wanes and the cost of harmonizing them rises, washington is unlikely to be able to count on unconditional support. instead of this to the united states. we'll have to get used to more constructive and equal relations in order to achieve mutual understanding nikolay viktorovich do you

agree with mark leonard? i agreed with mark leonard and agree that twice in history the anglo-saxons armed, educated, pumped up the economy with diplomatic support to both japan and germany, and after that the world was washed with bloody tears, and the united states of america found itself one step closer to world domination, therefore, in principle, they don't offer anything new. they are they offer to repeat to themselves what, unfortunately, they have succeeded twice in history, but each time there is a risk that the cannibal dog that the actions are bred in front of their eyes in the end can close them down because hitler well, he practically destroyed, uh, the power of great britain and already looked at, uh, a future war in the united states of america and only a change in germany's strategy, in principle, saved great britain, so this is a game on the verge of a foul. this is a game with millions of victims pre-

planned. but every time they think that this the cannibal dog will still remain faithful to them and rush to the right place. and here is the andalnik, in general, i would like to return to what is a victory for them now, when they talk about the rearmament of germany when germany itself is already talking about it. he says that this is the creation of another threat to russia, so far purely theoretical, but terrible in its, uh, our understanding of what this has already led to in history, and again behind germany are the same ones who stand behind ukraine and talk to us. negotiate with us. and then this will not be a threat and maybe germany will not rearm and there will be no problems, perhaps, that some german leader will come up with to present territorial claims to russia, because the war must have some reason and we know that as part of russia is an integral part of the kaliningrad region. and when we talk about what germany

rearming is going to have. the largest european army in the conditions of russophobia and anti-russian hysteria is a direct threat to the integrity of russia, but they stand behind them and waving hand tattoo with us. negotiate with us. otherwise, threats will arise in the economy in the politics of military affairs. this means that it is impossible to negotiate with them. and also, uh, i think the conclusion that we can draw from what mark lionart writes. this is an interest in the united states in a global conflict and with russia from china, and at the same time, because yes, of course, japan, rearmed by germany, will objectively be inclined towards independence, but they will be more inclined towards this independence or from autonomy in conditions lack of confrontation. the presence of this confrontation will just keep them in the american orbit, so yes, the united states here again, we uh, make sure that they are for the

sovans in keeping this conflict, let it be a conflict of little and intensity. yes, let it be just a confrontation, as is currently the case between the united states and china, but they are objectively interested in this confrontation, they are objectively interested in this global split, because there are other ways to keep in their satellites in their orbit, moreover, they do not have strengthening re-arming satellites, and we will continue in a few moments. deadly, an outbreak of cholera in gais, infection of monkeypox in a number of european countries and that's it. this is against the backdrop of new frightening facts about the secret laboratories of the pentagon, this is a completely logical continuation of war crimes from the nazis of the time of hitler and the japanese detachment 731, already

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on the air is a big game today is a very important day for ukraine european union relations. i would say that even for the european union itself, for the future of the european union, which, in the light of the decisions and statements that were made today in kiev, are macrons, dredges. it doesn’t seem cloudy to me, but so and today the leaders of the three largest countries of the european union came to kiev; the train on which e, the euro trinity was traveling, and the bild magazine wrote that they explained to him that there was simply no place for him, yes, in a privileged train, in which macron scholz and e fights traveled, therefore, e johana got to kiev with his way. and , of course, the main topic of the negotiations. e. e-e

representatives of the european union with. e. zelensky - these are the prospects for granting ukraine the status of a candidate for membership in the european union tomorrow the european commission. it is expected to issue a recommendation that ukraine allegedly meets the criteria. e candidate members it is necessary to start relevant negotiations, but, but the decision is made by the council of the eu, uh, the totality of the member countries, and france is just today the chairman of the council of the european union, uh, following the results of today's negotiations, both macron and scholz and mario draghi said that they support granting kiev the status of candidate members of the european union that is, this actually means that with a high probability the summit of the european union, the european council, which

will be held on the corresponding status and is not hidden not by the european commission, not by the leaders of the countries of the european union that this decision is exclusively geopolitical in nature, it is openly stated that if there was no military conflict in ukraine, then there would not even be a question of granting ukraine a status candidates for a member of the european union, many countries of the european union openly say that ukraine, well, does not meet the criteria for membership at all, does not meet the criteria for membership at all. and even no prospect of its compliance. ah, no, macron, says that e ukraine and moldova must be provided. uh, the status of the candidates is precisely because of their geopolitical situation. but georgia, which in fact is more suitable for e membership criteria,

the very macron says that here is his quote, georgia has a different status in geopolitical terms, that is, it turns out that geopolitics determines in this case the decision of the european union on expansion, and after all, this is i want to ask alexander vyacheslavovich. after all, this fundamentally contradicts the nature in accordance with which the european union has been developing since 1957 with the signing of the roman treaties. european union. the european economic communities developed as a legal entity based on standards on norms, yes on rules, uh, and so on, and today he says that his decision is determined by geopolitics, because this is, uh, in fact , but a shot in the head of the european union itself is a change in its nature and if the european union becomes a geopolitical entity, huh? uh,

a regulatory question arises. and why does he in general then you need to have nato in the end? yes, and you can create some other uh geopolitical association. here is the european union. he, uh, generally understands that by making such decisions, he signs a suspended death sentence for himself. i 'm afraid, but look, there really is a growth stability pack that also limits the budget deficit. and uh, the amount of public debt and so on in ukraine does not meet these criteria, and the problem is that the west is waging a war on two fronts. and the first front is against us economic war. well, somewhere there is a hot war, but with the help of western weapons, and the second front of the war, which is waged by this information fund, and, unfortunately, it wages this not against itself, because having explained to ukraine, uh, and having created an understanding of some some other reality, torn off from

this real reality from what is happening, they are more and more immersed in that state when they can no longer make adequate decisions. and when you are waging an information war against violence, i explain to my own population that putin is to blame for the cost of gasoline prices, that famine and refugees are all russia and so on, then , like no other european country, a war on two fronts does not win. yes, especially since the second front. he is within himself, therefore. let's just wait a little wait, again, from those same problems. eh, italy also has debt, yes, and there is already a bond yield of only 4%, if there is 5%, then the debt, and the size of two trillion to 250 billion euros, but there will simply be a default and something will happen further with european financial ones. not to mention the rest of southern europe a where is germany going into recession? what will be its depth?

how is the crisis? let's see, and we'll see for a little more time, in general, the rest of the countries to join there, if it's just a territory of a crisis of constant crisis. and when they talk about the deployment of nato troops, uh, on the border. well, god be with you, but you understand that you are so much with your digital technologies. they made themselves vulnerable, that they would strike with calibers at a data center all over europe , what they would do, what they thought in the banks of the europeans zero, that e housing and communal services does not work, the store does not start products. there is no electricity, nothing, crowds of grants, millions of migrants and europeans, roll back over all 2,000 years ago and in six months half of the population of europe will simply die for food. and then you are placed, it’s just that this one will remain as artifacts, all this is your weapon, because there will no longer be anyone there and the surviving europeans. in a year i will

storm the swiss countryside in search of food that is not a member of the european union but in fairness, it must be said that the question of ukraine's accession to the european union, of course , is not yet an issue. and by the way, both france and germany say that granting the status of a candidate should not automatically mean the start of negotiations on ukraine's accession to the european union, at least the military conflict must first be completed, and scholz said today that the prospects for the expansion of the european union should be linked to reforms within the european union, i.e. in translated into russian it means never. yes, this is the first thing the european union must change the decision-making system, yes, decide. will it deepen integration or will it not deepen integration. here, then let's think about expansion, but even granting the status of a candidate to ukraine a. this, in my opinion , undermines the influence of the european union, does not strengthen, but undermines

the influence of the european union in the world. why because the european union has always claimed its influence its strength is based on its so-called normative force, and normative force, which in turn is based on the fact that geopolitics is a bad swear word that the european union has created within itself such rules, standards a and norms that are the best and most attractive. yes, and now he is moving away from this and moving on to geopolitics and making a decision in accordance with political expediency in order to give ukraine a certificate of its belonging to the west, and to create some kind of institutional link between ukraine and the west, and in conditions when the prospects for ukraine's membership in nato are equal to zero, yes, and indeed, it contradicts the normative nature of the european union and thus it simply attaches itself to itself, it betrays its nature. well, here's another interesting, and interesting

aspect - this is, of course, the question of peace negotiations, which, in theory, should have been heard today in the course. uh, during the talks in kiev between uh, the europeans and zelensky, many speculated, including me. ah, we were talking about it today. officials in ukraine that in exchange for the status of a candidate member of the european union, macron, scholz and dredges will demand that zelensky return to the negotiation process with russia . is this really true during negotiations or not? yes, maybe he stood officially, of course, uh, everyone and macrons, scholz fights, uh? willie that ukraine should decide for itself. yes, they are for peace. yes, they are for negotiations on the terms of this world . they won't be on it. but, uh, even

if they exerted any pressure on zelensky behind closed doors, the question remains. and how effective this pressure is, how much this pressure can act and can lead to some results. after all, we remember that both macron and scholz. back in january of this year, they really tried to put pressure on zelensky so that he began to implement the minsk agreements. uh, so that he refuses, uh, joining nato yes, they told him not even go to the munich security conference and so on, the schols told him not to it is necessary to speculate on the topic of nuclear weapons. the bottom line is, zelensky simply ignored such demands of the europeans, because there was a different opinion, another opinion from washington, another opinion from london, and today the situation remains fundamentally similar. yes, listen, what a statement, today is the day of the negotiations of the european trinity. uh, in kiev made the british foreign

secretary ukraine must win for the good of its people and to uphold the fundamental principles of sovereignty , self-determination of freedom and democracy. we never we will not deviate from our obligations, no matter how long the conflict continues. we must tirelessly deliver military assistance at this critical time. this includes long-range weapons and other vital needs, as well as upgrading ukraine's military equipment to nato standards in the long term. we must also support ukraine in the negotiations for now. russia has shown that it does not belong to the negotiations. seriously, we cannot allow ukraine to be pressured into give up the territory, which we ourselves would never send. well, against this background, naturally, zelensky is unlikely to listen to the euro trinity e, even if they put pressure on him, and in this regard, ivan alekseevich the

question arises. why are they at all? whether there is a? yes, if everything is so, then they signed. in the inability to provide some kind of strategic authorship of the inability to put pressure on ukraine once again, i emphasize that it contradicts the regulatory and legal nature of the european union itself, yes, but what was it all about in this case, this trip. it was an absolute equivalent exchange. here is the absolute equivalent. and it was the trinity that gave ukraine a donut hole a promise, uh, the beginning of the process of joining the european union, which will never end with anything; this process will not be ukraine in the european, of course, in the european union, so ah. the europeans brought in this one. a card that

has no meaning and in itself in itself in itself ukraine's elite understands this very well, maybe they will somehow show the population this propaganda that we are about to embark on the path of joining the european union, but this is a fiction, this is zilch and in return. they got the exact same donut hole that, uh, zelensky is not going to do any negotiations, so a lot of people really expected that there would be an exchange of something serious about membership for something serious about negotiations. and then there were the candidates. it nevertheless, seriously for the european union itself, i'm not quite that with this consent, that is, it is necessary to vote. first of all, it might not work. secondly, it does not oblige you to anything, even if

this decision is passed on a common euro. that level, but uh, that's why there are all these movements, because this is ultimately the question. the fact is that the europeans are in the trailer of american politics. here is an american steam locomotive, geopolitical and geo-economic they are carrying . quite obviously, they are. they don't like it uncomfortable where this american geopolitical geo-economic locomotive is going. they understand that they are weak. they understand that resources are being sucked out of them. and while this elite is absolutely loyal to the united states. all these people who came to kiev are an american asset in the end , but they understand that yes, not an american asset, but the population, then they will not have all the american asset. well, the macron has already passed through the elections. although the parliamentary elections were very difficult for his party, there are still elections to come it is the same in germany and in italy, and he is still in

france, they will be kicked by the population to them. what to do? they need to do something. they cannot sit at all and simply do nothing in this american train, so they are trying to perform some actions, maybe something will work out, maybe something will work, but it is quite obvious that for now the dynamics of the processes are set by the united states and uk and in this regard i do not quite agree. here are quotes from mark leonardo that germany is growing stronger, i see the extraordinary strengthening of great britain in europe and simultaneously with the strengthening of germany, this cannot happen . she uh, she kind of softens up. she loses her subjectivity. she appears to be completely deceitful. uh, deceitful and not consistent with the power, so maybe he will create all this. eh? some prospect of

a medium-term basis for revanchist sentiment in germany, because what is happening in germany now against the backdrop of the ukrainian crisis, the way germany is being treated by british diplomats , american and even ukrainian, who offend germany and german politicians endlessly. after some time, all this can be perceived in germany itself as a humiliation, and then revanchist moods will arise, and then , indeed, there may be something, but serious and dangerous, but now i see the strengthening of great britain and not germany well, you said about the fact that europeans are uncomfortable in the train that the american steam locomotive is carrying, this is true, and this , uh, is true not only in the field of geopolitics, but also in the field of economics, maybe in the first place in the field of economics, by the way, speaking, the american locomotive has already begun to change the discourse regarding anti-russian sanctions and this week the

deputy secretary of the treasury, usa more ademo said that american anti-russian sanctions may be excessive, yes, and this presents a problem for the united states because it increases inflation. now the european union. it seems to me that he can see for himself the redundancy of european sanctions. and with regard to russia, i mean the growing energy crisis. e in the european union, ah, ah, because really because of the anti-russian sanctions, and gazprom cannot get back er, the turbines for the nord stream 2 gas pipeline, and they are being repaired in canada in montreux. this is supposedly the only plant. well , today, it is really the only plant that carries out repairs of e-selected turbines. and as a result. uh, gazprom has already been forced to reduce and very significantly reduce the

volume of gas supplies via nord stream from 167 million to only 60 families, and this is combined with the fact that gas supplies through ukraine have been reduced since ukraine refuses to let gas pass through the territory of the lc. and then there is the accident at the american plant for liquefied natural gas. yes, and it turns out that europe is facing the problem of energy shortages, serious problems of energy shortages and gas shortages, and the russian ambassador to the european union, vladimir chizhov, has already said that if everything goes, the way it is happening now. yes, if sanctions are sanctions, nothing will be done, then supplies via nord stream. in principle, they can be stopped, and for the european union it will really be a disaster. nikolay viktorovich that is, it turns out that the time has come for the european union to either review its own sanctions or

say goodbye. with their production, with their economies, with heat in houses, and so on and so forth, but it seems to me that the europeans really played with these sanctions thinking that all swords would fly, only it was enough at our gates. it's naive if they think that the only plant that repairs the turbine, which is needed to pump the gas they need, is in canada, i don’t arrogantly return it. eh, throws up his hands. well, it means that the volume of gas will be reduced, and then just the second turbine, which you will also be surprised to repair in montreal, it has passed the e-e warranty period, as they say, the mileage between two repairs. well, here's a reduction of almost 40%, uh, this, of course, can bring the european elites to their senses, but let's remember that quite recently literally. well a few days or a week ago. they told us just as arrogantly, looking into our eyes, that we will refuse your oil from your gas. and

they even called some dates, but the problem is that due to their own sanctions, they may be left without russian gas, as they say, years before they could have prepared for it. well, these are your problems, your sanctions, your initiative is the destruction of economic, political, cultural and all other ties. well, you yourself and ditch your native german industry. this whole situation once again shows that the west has placed itself in an extremely vulnerable position by unleashing a hybrid war. e against russia the west did not appreciate the role of russia in the global economy, and therefore imposed sanctions that actually suffer the most and this is only the beginning, as the presidential press secretary rightly noted today. e, dmitry peskov and also the west did not appreciate the irreversible and qualitative transformation of the world towards polycentricity and about that is why he could not ensure the unification of not the western world against

russia but i'm afraid to learn the lesson and change the policy. the west is clearly not ready yet just yesterday after the all-important phone conversation between vladimir putin and cd-pin, in which china even more unequivocally supported russia and expressed its commitment to further deepen russian chinese cooperation in all plans and in all aspects in the united states state department yesterday. bili that china is on the wrong side of history. well it means that washington's global position continues to weaken, and russia will strengthen its position as one of the leaders of the large non- western world. it was a big game. all the best.

that they arrived on the train by train, that they have bad wi-fi on the train. in general, they are engaged in other matters. apparently, on the train, the guests really had no time for that, because. apparently they were constantly throwing off stone, paper scissors, how can someone sit down during, uh, this photographing? you can see it in the top photo macron won, and he fell out, so, scissors, and the scholtsy had paper, so the macron sits in the center and steers, but then did he say something? no, no, come on, we'll throw it out a second time and it fell out, which means scholz's paper, but then the stone fell out of macron and, accordingly, his dredge did not participate in these very ones. basically, it's okay. like this, to sit in the same place from the edge to the left, because, well, somehow it seems to me, both older and calmer, especially since he knows that in any case, she is not in such a bad situation as the president of romania, whose macron, at the last moment, seemed to decide to invite, but then at the

last moment it turned out that either there was no place on this train, or something the car did not have time. in general, he was driving, he was in a separate train. i didn’t get photos on these, er, well, how hard it can be life among politicians, who are remembered at the last moment. and what didn’t stop, but against the background of this visit, the kiev regime, as i said, shelling e hmm donetsk and here it is very significant that during the shelling in donetsk, as always, was beaten around the squares, but the shells were suspiciously close, they went to the same pre-trial detention center to one of the pre-trial detention centers where , in fact, are, uh, their own recent heroes, but i don’t know if they are azov or not azov, but here, as it were, their prisoners contained in this season. and this is very significant, because on the one hand. here, uh, this whole meeting is here, so, uh. here we are, here we are recognized. eh, european countries, it means that in kiev all this is pompously accepted, we are so

civilized, so democratic we see. and so it means to fuck on your own exactly the same thing was demonstrated in severodonetsk what? there are no such ones for them, because humanitarian corridors for the withdrawal of the civilian population have once again been thwarted in severodonetsk, which, uh, uh, heroes, have taken, as always once again now in severodonetsk, hostage. in general, nothing of this happens there, but everyone, as it were, understands that everyone is not up to it, because, apparently, the europeans have arrived. uh not for this, yes, but all the forces were clearly thrown ninety the fifth quarter to ensure that this whole meeting is in itself. well, there it must be said with the writers of the ninety-fifth quarter, which is now temporarily playing the role. ah, the ukrainian authorities. everything is not bad with them, because pay attention, how exactly the guys prescribed. here in the script for this event, and the air raid siren . just listen, listen

. attention is here. this is very revealing. i did not accidentally say that the ninety-fifth quarter, which, well, as it were, plays the role of ukrainian. and they know how to do it, because look at the shocking moment of howling sirens in kiev during the visit of the scholites. that is, it was in advance, as it were, well, such a staged moment. and, of course, everyone understood that everyone, that is, you understand, what picture and what intonation of perception, all this is received by the audience. this is the buildlife itself, that, in order to understand that you have arrived here, well, practically to the front line, practically to the front line. and before they had time to arrive, they were the beacons of european civilization. and then this mordor

of course, i began to fire right here. that's where these three colors came from. well 3.5 colors. shawarma, too, apparently, somewhere there, it's true since he got off the train. i don't see him anywhere, not in any photo. somehow i i even i even some moment started to kiev whether it was at you can say another place has arrived. well, i don't know, well, in the end. eh, god be with him, and so it was further thought out that this is all. you understand this. these are the messengers. this is very revealing. that is, here's what they hammer on the elderly city is that the civilians are not released. it's all somewhere out there, it's the lord, i'm wondering from the gentlemen i need to go out, and in such uh, in khaki colors, it means t-shirts, well, i must say that here, in my opinion, the scriptwriters miscalculated, because in the background all the gentlemen in these same suits. i think he won, the way he looked. well, as you know, when the owners come here to check how repairs are done in the apartment. here comes out. i think that's my point of view. it was necessary to

go out on the boss's leg in these slippers. and also here it is from a newspaper from a newspaper to put on such a hat, but, in principle, apparently, a move was also thought out there, because zelensky looks like, well, next to them. well, it’s kind of weird, but it’s actually not the avatar side, because it looks weird there according to the script. according to the script, the kuleba looked strange there, because, uh, the kuleba was supposed to collect on itself, according to the plan of the scriptwriters. that's all. you know what it's called, a designer spot. here, the design spot in this scenario was assigned to the cooler. i'd like him to sit there, well, just designer spot, because everything is somehow like this. well, even potions. here in this shirt. well, such, as it were, like a real soldier, he is sitting there. this is a sad sad creature, what is it about at this time. uh, the creature thinks i don't know the creature says there is truth with a broken leg from a crutch. i don’t know if the screenwriter did this, or maybe he ran into some of these same predators from the front who returned somewhere, and they all told him. i sincerely don’t know, but i know what he’s

thinking at that time. i know what picture is at this time kuleba was in my head. just uh, here are the signals we sent him these signals for a long time. and this is the expression on his face. here, here he is. he just knew that sooner or later it would be. here it is, he himself, at that moment imagined, but that's all, of course. these are all jokes and talk, in fact they are doing it seriously, because these are people representing, as i already said, some pragmatic european party, which i am now telling you what they write. uh, ukrainian publics that are in conversation, with which zelensky had two scenarios, or some kind of compromise. uh, agreement to some concessions and uh, as in some kind of uh, orientation to the cessation of hostilities, or the second, tough scenario. for what i bought for that and i sell. this is written by quite serious ukrainian publics that, according to their information, a press conference is now underway. it has

begun. here is quite recently the information that will fall from there, what they say there, but officially we will tell you. although i understand that all these words are all official statements, what was discussed there? i dont know. here i repeat again according to the information. uh, this press conference is still going on, what he tells them there. here, according to the information of serious ukrainian publics, they seem to write that zelensky focused there on, as it were, the second option, namely the option of continuing a tough confrontation. he even seemed to be talking about some kind of offensive in which they would move on, and this is already serious talk about, well, where is this whole structure moving now and can it move in in the near future, because, well, humor is humor, but this is, in general, hostilities in which people die. all in all, it's a very bad story. so this story, after all, lies in the fact that these are all a photographs at the table, and about which people, of course, all sorts of funny memes are drawn yes, memes are really funny about

how these people sit down there at tables and so on, but but uh, yes, well, today i pay attention, that is, the people are so uh, it means that we didn’t draw no, it looks very and in fact. here as it were, yes, that is, talent is folk. by, that is, that is, in general , those who draw these memes had an understandable attitude to these negotiations, but the question is that in these photographs it is quite possible that those on which zelensky’s actions almost completely depend and much depends on the action. here, as if these gentlemen are not in these photographs, and they are not in kiev at these negotiations, but surprising and i am sure not by chance. there, too, the scriptwriters are no worse than those of the ninety-fifth quarter, since the ninety-fifth quarter brings them paper and pencils, which means, uh, very interesting, coinciding with these negotiations of the european pragmatist party, and under them

several statements were made from washington. here, for example, one of them, please. we are not going to put pressure on the ukrainian leadership to demand territorial concessions. we believe that this is blatantly wrong against the norms. uh , right, while helping them means supporting them with a constant supply of weapons and providing intelligence, remember how i don’t i remember in what it was e in my opinion the movie. you can shoot at least a full film here. i have long spent the light. here you can talk there, about anything, but we believe that now now our task is to support their weapons. they ask as much as possible, and our task. that is, these guys, they say, guys. well, that's it. here you are, you can talk. i understand that you have scholz there, which means that everything is somehow already there in germany, not very good for the economy. well, it's good for us that you're doing well, and you're there macron today is very good. well, that's great, so we are still considering the supply of weapons and

synchronously. well, as if quite by chance, is it passion? well, our favorite girl on the tank? e made a statement in about the same tone, that ukraine may be obliged to win great britain will never leave. well, and that's it, that's all in this doha. yes, it means that president vladimir putin not only has to lose this war. well, that is, that is the old europeans. they come to kiev to try something there, mm anglo-saxon, they are told, how it says tailwind in the back of your train, we will supply we will so provide they must win. and for me personally, i don't know, maybe someone will argue with me for me personally. this is a signal of that. something about which he speaks today in arakhami i think that it is predetermined that it should continue at least until the autumn, but he says david is very arakhami. well, in general, such

scary things, please. every day , up to a thousand ukrainian soldiers are killed or injured in the donbass in eastern ukraine, on average between 200 and 500 killed and many more wounded, said a senior ukrainian official, president volodymyr zelensky, said on june 1 that between 60 and 100 ukrainian troops are dying every day. last 2 weeks. this number has grown significantly. well, here this edition turns cancer a little for a stone, because david rochami does not conduct any negotiations, just does not conduct with russia and, in fact, schultz with a macron from the dredge came to zelensky to try to somehow negotiate with him, so that maybe they could start some kind of negotiations, well, the anglo-saxons, whom i gave you to listen to, they gave quite clearly to show that they made it clear, that they do not imply any negotiations. and this means zelensky will

continue to puff out his cheeks. and this means that where this whole situation is heading depends not only, uh, not so much on those who came to kiev today, but not only on those who did these statements, but depends on those who continue to do real, not scenario, but real combat work. today, the russian flag appeared at the entrance to severodonetsk on this inscription, and this is the most important issue. and which today with all that yes. you can, of course, joke, looking at these gentlemen, and at zelensky in slippers and so on. this is the most important question, how do they balance around what, and the scales in this situation, what can influence them? where will they move, on what does it depend on whose plans? and what ambitions and etc. where are we now? and we are now in the middle of these scales, because you are absolutely right. all

these european voyages and anglo-saxon statements, of course, depend on real combat work , the current world politics are determined, in fact , what happens on the battlefields is by no means the other way around, but hmm, even well, let's imagine. yes, they arrived today. uh, frightened european patriots, so they persuaded the zelensky type to say so, come on , you want to do something, and he says, i'm ready for negotiations after he declares it, so on the front line there is a certain movement that the military makes. and all his statements hang in the void there, the engine and the locomotive yes, tell me, after all, when arachamia talks about such losses, and then you need to understand, either rachaemia for some reason increases the scale of loss, or the scale of losses is such and then it arises, and he, to mine, in

general, such a really rather big one, even when you say that some kind of movement is being made at the front. you want to tell me that zaluzhny wants to continue to fight further at any cost no. as for what was laid down, it was not in vain that the commander of the armed forces called himself a general for a mile. yes, actually female forces. yes, and it was not in vain that he was a general or called his mentor openly, but the general was a mile. he is the head of the chiefs of staff committee, usa. that is, he is a military man there, like the military appointed here is not the secretary of defense and, uh, the mortgaged educated pro american educated military in general, in fact. he knows in general that most people are going on here, even from those who write to us. they do not understand what is happening in this theater of operations, but i can reveal a little secret is happening here. uh, the victorious invasion of the armored columns of the soviet union and the warsaw pact into

nato territory, that is, into the territory of the federal republic of germany of the sample from the seventy-second to 84 years. that tactical scheme, which was spelled out by the americans and nato members, was then implemented here without flaw without flaw. even even our armored columns too were in stock. i'll just give two examples. those developed strategies and a very interesting conclusion. e country between germany and ukraine today. uh, for example, it was assumed there that, well, it was called by her deep defense, the concept was called opposed to armored columns by infantry spturs. uh-huh, saturated with infantry birds in small groups, nothing resembles someone , which means that the columns were supposed to hit from all sides. uh, let the columns get stuck, and then it means that all their forces are being pulled up and

counternal is also similar, so, uh, this concept. uh, the strategic one was rejected every year then, unlike the scholz. the germans had the right to vote was denied by the german government. for one simple reason, now it will be even more familiar. they talked. are you stunned? this is our earth, this is our people, we will not give it. eh, i forgot one part. the strategy of deep defense involves the creation there and was called the islands of resistance. and now we call them fortified areas, which are located in the villages of the city and so on, and the germans said that these are our cities, and but we don't want them to be destroyed. but for ukrainians, these are not cities, these are not their people, and they agree to this, but those who live in these cities do not agree with this in these strategies. it's just that nobody asks them. well, naturally yes, we ask. uh, it means in these strategies that there

was another very bad ending, because back then american strategies considered the option, they lost, now they don’t count it anymore. they just don't have it now. they don’t even lose it, but then they played this staff game, according to at least, so, if then in those 50 years ago, in fact, if it was obvious the strategic defeat of the defense on the territory of the federal republic of germany that germa also blocked no, and now nothing arises, no associations arise, chernobyl zaporizhzhya npp performance in munich is also some kind of echo. here, although now, unlike that time, given the speed of delivery of our missiles to the united states and them to us.

now they know it, so it's, of course, categorically know but those educated military men who learned from these strategies. they see what 's going on here. they are for them cards on the table. you're telling me that these educated military people want to continue this, you know? formed no, zaluzhny solves operational problems. he has no strategic powers. but the germans, the french, who are now coming to kiev. they understand what is happening and offer that very draw. stop let's stop where it will get worse now. in fact, the macron brought the last word, kiev minsk three. it can be seen from his texts, well, about the fact that scholz macrons in different forms want to somehow bring it up. e to kiev minsk-3 - this is a long time e understandable, but e the fact is that minsk knows how to tango t-100 e yes tango dances together. and here it

is still the most important question, especially in the color of this described military scheme. and what are the options and chances of the development of events according to one scenario now? well, there are some progress towards kiev's negotiations, considering that the anglo-saxon, when they make it clear that there is another scenario, that before november why until november, because apparently they are doing joe well, no, there is nothing more to write off inflation and prices. and that means november. but, in fact, i will start with the informational background, and i am deeply convinced that the informational process is political in europe, despite the fact that there really is some kind of liberal diktat and fascism. they still show influence on politicians. who make the decision. now i will just quote those media that are not advanced. that is, so to speak, the media of the second echelon, because the advanced ones are completely controlled. on what background is this happening? this meeting means american national interest. important experts say it's time for kiev to think about

territorial concessions in moscow further, germany to germany questioned the adequacy of zelensky, he demands crimea and weapons. ugh french. they say that putin cannot be isolated, he is still not alone. that is, in my opinion, what he was talking about, we, dear senior comrade, really europeans are trying, a using blackmail. in my opinion. this will most likely be blackmailed to force kiev to start thinking about territorial concessions. this process. look, the very fact of negotiations is also very important - this is the beginning of the process, the british and americans can interfere in this process for a very long time, but the fact is that the closer autumn is. the closer the energy, food, political and other crises in europe, the more often european troops will stop coming to the territory of ukraine, where do they start? here now, again, in the same ukrainian e-telegram channels. uh, there was information that zelensky was voiced, and the plan of the dredge that he

provided, we remember the united nations organization there a couple of months ago, very briefly to explain to our audience, what it consists in is that the controversial issue of belonging to the attention of donbass remains and crimea even donbass and crimea so against this background, if you can solve the first question, well, of course. first, the ceasefire, then the issue of donbass and crimea. at the same time, if you agree to some kind of autonomy for ukraine, it seems to her, as they even promise already 100%. this is not membership in the european union, but such a confident candidate for membership in the european union and so on. uh, that is, in fact, even this negotiating position of europe is absolutely unacceptable. well, firstly, for our country. i artyom speak with your permission. i want to say it again, that, well, a significant part of russian society. i don't know, again as a percentage. she, of course, here with a fight with my permission, and with my warm approval winces every time we hear about

negotiations. are you the way you know it? excuse me , artyom grigoryevich. well, i just blurted out the truth. well , yes, well, be afraid, because every time the europeans come, this is a sure signal that we are doing everything right, that the situation on the ground, that the situation in terms of warfare is as positive as possible for us, despite the fact that terrible shelling of the donbass, which has not happened since 2014. of course , they bring out emotions very strongly and i really hope that a person yes, the goal is very simple, but actually there is no withdrawal, troops and so on. so, i will finish, of course, against this background, which zelensky says again, the society in ukraine is politics. experts vsushniki natsiks are so warmed up by themselves that these theses about some kind of world and ukraine will not be taken into account in any way. even despite the fact that they are 100% dependent on the west, on finance, on weapons, and so on, and in this regard, in my opinion, the situation is excellent for us, because the

more often european troops will come there. the more clearly it will be clear that these are the goals of a special military operation. at least those that have been voiced they are being implemented and they are very unnerving to the west in these in this context. in my opinion, at the end of august, what we talked about artyom grigoryevich or there, by winter, the situation will radically change, and if zelensky chooses this second scenario, which you talked about raising rates. give us weapons according to the lens. in general, we will win back, crimea and, uh, donbass, maybe we’ll go. we are in the kuban. this suggests that by the end of the summer these comrades will come to us to bargain for the preservation of the ukrainian state. the only thing i wanted to clarify with you was when you said that you literally think they came there with blackmail. blackmail comes in two different forms. this is blackmail, uh, roughly speaking with a whip, but there is blackmail, uh, gingerbread. that is, that is, roughly speaking, this is bribery. here you go. well,

actually, after all, blackmail is a threat to something. or is it a bribe? well, here are the ukrainian publics that i quoted, they write something what the european visitors are putting pressure on is, as they write, it means nishtyaki under the conditions of joining the european union means some kind of financial and so on and so forth. yes, but the problem is that the declared assistance of four dashes of 5 billion months for the maintenance of ukraine does not come. yeah, the declared loans from international organizations do not come. so maybe you yourself said the word blackmail , maybe that's why they don't come, that they want to do this. here it is in the discourse. see. something that sullivan actually said, but when a representative of an american study throws this question into the public space. it’s like we don’t put pressure on territorial concessions, this is the case of ukraine, but the very fact of uttering the phrase territorial concessions to such high-ranking american officials suggests that the americans, who really want

at least some. it got to ukraine, however, the ukrainians want half of the american arsenal, yes, and they say, well, four things, we will give you and so on. this suggests that and sullivan in my opinion. they already perfectly understand that kherson is an exceptional case. and it seems to me that zaporozhye is no longer limited. and here is the root just. here i am now i was talking continues. this is, uh, a press conference, but which here gives us, well, sort of information, in fact, in the continuation of these conversations on the one hand. this means that the members of the european union of ukraine and moldova came out in favor of granting the status of candidates to the issue of carrots, but on the other hand , to the question of in exchange for which i am not very understandable, because he immediately stated that we support ukraine in protecting its sovereignty and territorial integrity, financially, and in the humanitarian sphere. and this is actually a very revealing statement. germany has broken with long-standing state traditions, and we also support

ukraine with arms supplies. this is actually a statement in general, which, well, you should pay attention to it, that they have broken with long-standing state traditions, and we will continue to do so. so far, ukraine needs it. our help and second statement macron stated that ukraine should negotiate with russia itself and i don't understand how to take it, as if russia is already saying, come on already. start negotiating with me and not france, not germany, will not do it. instead, it’s like you read it all and explained it, well, firstly, to serious diplomatic negotiations, which still end with a very serious study, but further actions. hmm, they don't go in crowds, so this is a demonstration. in any case, four people, zelensky these t-shirts, and so on. this is a society with that is, while the ninety-sixth carnival is the first. so second we are all good. it is known that

after all that has happened, moscow is not open to any negotiations with today's ukraine and with this leadership, but serious ones. i mean, negotiations on any territorial issues will not enter into this in order to reassure our population, because here they are the drivers, and suddenly an agreement. friend agreed, i say, and today i read a whole lecture to the driver who drove me, this will not happen. and they know that our management will not go for it moreover, we now have strong cards and i remind you once again that all these arms deliveries will not save the fathers of ukrainian democracy, and in the ninety-fifth quarter hmm at the same time, well, it’s profitable for us to grind e, nato arsenals. well, it's hard. yes, this boring work is very discreet by and large performs. eh, kanashenko in such a, well, not very

dull enough with dim tonations. there he begins to enumerate. i tell him how much to order, that is, there is nothing catchy. yes so boring going. such work, boo-boo, so much amazed so much amazed. he lists it all. however, this all sounds to this listens to everyone. cement, as i understand it, now the subjectivity of these guys, in general, one can say, is zero, the fact that ukraine is trying to board the titanic e where no one is even fighting for the helm, because either nato or the eu yeah, by and large , because that’s all e , already outgoing nature. well, something else is interesting, and something else interests me. i'm finally here, uh, in deep thought. suddenly i realized the following with your own considerations. you understand the entire west , including serious ones, uh, analysts and americans

are also considering the current economic and political crisis, and this is becoming ukraine, yes, the very drop in which this is all visible, they perceive this crisis as cyclical structural , but it is systemic. uh-huh this is a systemic global crisis. they don't understand it, so here are these poultices, like a visit of three. eh, moreover, you can imagine how the polylogue goes. yes, that is a conversation. uh, uh, with so many people yes, a multifaceted dialogue and they are, well, conditionally 2 hours, the translation always goes on. well, somewhere synchronous somewhere, well, usually negotiations are good, sometimes even sequential, so that, uh, the counterparty has time to comprehend. yes, it's porridge, it's just about nothing at all. that's why it's really a month only to

us about that we are ready to show the whole west and uh, just leading the situation, and the anglo-saxon americans do not show that they are ready. sorry no, americans. they are playing. eh, good and evil the investigator, you will notice whether the british declare their rhinestone there, and they cheeks, you understand, we are terribly against americans, we are generally to the end and all that. here good investigators appear in the person of such, er, good europeans. insomnia often wake up selson. you can fall asleep in 20 minutes and sleep soundly throughout the night welson bad sleep is no longer scary. welcome to the marathon of ozone summer discounts all week, discounted prices for buyers easily every day new discounted products from

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americans, who at the same time say that they will supply them with weapons. they seem to be, as the indigenous people tell me, they have everything painted on bad and good cop and so the americans just puff out their cheeks, say no, no, no, americans and british, we will supply weapons, what is it like they have such a design, because they all feel that it is hard for them. and now they will put pressure all together, it means that ukraine should compromise somewhere, and we are doing such a systematic, combative work. and we don't seem to notice them at all. and that's all. here, a blissful picture, but there is one moment in this picture that confuses me personally and i i want to share with you embarrassment that politically this whole scheme sounds, well, convincing. but there is one link for me that causes some doubts in me, whether it fits in, whether it is possible to fit it into the political schemes that are logically understandable to me, because it’s even not a matter of that, but of today’s ukraine, which, as it were, has a carnival character of politics has always been. we

emphasize this more than once, and not only in order to offend, so to speak. and it's really a fact that today's ukraine is ruled, even formally, but people who are not politicians manage everything that you told me here. this is about politics, about negotiations about some schemes. and these are people with a completely different brain structure, not to mention the fact that they are still ukrainians, who are people in both a good and a bad sense of the word. well, let's put it this way. uh, untied. i remember from afghanistan, the guys from ukrainians or khokhlov, they didn’t take offense at that then. but these were guys, what is called who, if they already started, then they went to turn his horseradish, if he already has something for himself and what is called in battle. and not in battle no, i'm not talking about the nazis. well, they are fighting there, not only what i need. see what causes my doubts. so, yesterday we listened to zelensky, who was asked a question by uncles. and here you are asking for a weapon. well, it was he who spoke to the desperate, but they, on behalf of the entire west, are asking us for weapons. but what if you

suddenly hit russian peaceful territories in russia. here he answers them. listen to him. we are not interested in shelling civilians. we are not terrorists to fire on civilians quarters, we are normal healthy people. this is a weapon. we need to free our state. imagine that in most of the cities where our troops are concentrated, the distance to the groups of the russian federation is more than 100 km, somewhere 100-140 km and more, we have a large country in terms of territory, the largest in europe, so how can this distance be reduced? we need the right weapon. we work on our land in our occupied territory, not in the territory of the russian federation now look, well, firstly, he says that we are healthy people, not terrorists. and this is said by a man whose troops ironed the peaceful quarters of donetsk and stakhanov before that. well, in general, the schools of the hospital of the maternity hospital ironed a lot of things with all these, including already

large nato calibers. yes, it means, uh, ironed, the second. he says that we are on our own land. so your name is not with russia further. you imagine them, for example, crimea is their land, and here an interesting product arises, because , of course, the same blinky has long been said. no, no, we give them weapons, but we are confident in the guys. well, let's hear why they are confident in them . regarding the weapons systems provided, the ukrainians have given us guarantees that they will not use these systems against targets on russian territory, there is a strong bond of trust between ukraine and the united states, as well as with our allies and partners, that is, you see, in political science schemes, zelensky says the europeans. what are you, our earth we are healthy people, and do not nod. yes, yes, so blinkin says? yes, that we have a trusting relationship with them is vladimir. he never does anything back and forth, now the conversation turns to the fact

that today's sullivan, whom i gave you to listen to, says that we will continue to supply them with a weapon system, and they are doing the right thing what is asked and we will kind of watch and right there on the background of these conversations. we hear who we hear the ukrainian general, major general , acting, who, with all directness and frankness, tells us that, damn it, there is simply nothing in this life. doesn't understand trusting them we listen. yes, the ukrainian war will receive the promised weapons. this is also a little bit already there to the issue of crimea , there is an american european one. here, uh, the kerch bridge is one of the goals. yes, this is 100%, well, it’s not a secret either for their military, not for our military, or for their civilians, not for our civilians, this will be the number one target to defeat. and so here 's something. it doesn't look like he was joking, and that he played

an evil cop and a good one. okay, let's say general. well, after all, major general. well, there he said too much became a colonel. well, he minister of defense minister of defense of ukraine who yes , you can say as much as you like, what is he there, some kind of talking head, and so on and so forth, but he is all those who are going to sell. eh, rather give them this weapon. he does not hesitate to say, here is the text. us weapons to help ukraine retake russian-occupied territory, including crimea and donbass ukrainian officials say they will not use weapons to attack the russian federation however, ukraine does not consider crimea to be russian territory. we're going to free all our territories all including crimea crimea is a strategic target for ukraine because it is ukrainian territory, but we will move step by step to the question of whether the return of crimea by military means would provoke even more russia, which considers crimea to be part of the russian federation

reznikov said that this was not considered . it doesn't matter, because the russians will see it in kherson, they will see it in zaporozhye, they will see it in mariupol but these are ukrainian lands. and crimea is also ukrainian land , no matter what, on the sixteenth of june. it say you think it's right in the first place. i think it's right to get a proper funding and some armaments. which, for example, i was very strained by the harpoon, which, and the americans are going to, therefore, i thought about it like that, to be honest, but, how would i be a purely civilian person, but i understand that the west has some kind of plug, and with military logistics with these supplies and military logistics, and it is quite difficult to supply, firstly, all these weapons, which in general with one way or another success. the russian federation can

grind, therefore, these losses for them can also, but seriously affect them. i think that we, too, that's why, in fact, many argue, why did we move away from the hostel? i more or less understand why it was necessary to take this place, and subsequently withdraw in order not to stretch the front line. this is also clear to me as a civilian. century, what are we going? this is how it is clear that we are going to odessa in transnistria, in my opinion, no one hides this. like this, breaking everything take the logistics. they cannot crimea, crimea is an impregnable fortress now, which is fortified in such a way that it is impossible to even go there and reznikov cannot not know this, but you understand that both reznikov and this general marchenko they do not say that while they are going go somewhere. they say the more long-range weapons. we will be given those with a higher probability. we can kick them over the same

kerch bridge, and the kerch bridge is excuse me. well, as if in the most that neither is crimea is what the conversation is about. and here's what we're talking about. and that's what i don't understand. yes, to what extent everyone in these political science schemes, negotiations and so on, but appreciate or underestimate the factor that these are people with whom they have never dealt. here are the people who are now in power in ukraine, well, and in general this mentality, this confuses me a little. and you, karen georgievich, are within the framework of what we are dealing with and where it all goes further. maybe we are embarrassed to start. well we have with this case, what you have to be embarrassed to analyze the situation and look. what an opportunity, in principle, they can shy away. i apologize for the parliamentary expression. i think that, by the way, this is not very beneficial for the americans; in fact, they are actually conducting actions, since to a certain extent this is how it is. revenge for vietnam , they are from afghanistan well, in vietnam, the soviet union

supplied all types of weapons to the vietnamese, but they did not work on the territory of the united states uh-huh, they worked on the territory of vietnam and south vietnam that is, it was kind of like that so i think it's well, that it is not very profitable for them, but strictly speaking, uh, on the one hand from this audience. of course, you can expect everything, actually, but, well, on the other hand, uh, actually, the style of ukrainian ukrainian ukrainian politics, that's boisterous. here it is, as it were, but i think that judging by everything, the westerners, in fact, the americans in the first place, that they supply it, of course, they pose a threat, but judging by the fact that this cannot bring ukraine, then from this i i conclude that in general their interest is to prolong the conflict, this is the most and in general, if you take their point of view. here, i would do

the same. so they dragged us into the war. the longer the war goes on, the more profitable it is, but if it ends, it's actually not profitable for them, but it's not profitable for them to win. ukraine is not really on our victory. it's beneficial for them. this is a permanent state, as it seems to me, as you understand. uh, when you say dragging out the war is beneficial for them. in which case? a group because , of course, there are also different groups in america, that is, there is this, but now the authorities clearly to say such a thing that is called hawks is to say imperial preoccupied. so to speak, to defeat russia, to weaken russia as much as possible, in any case, this part of the elite, which is biden. in my opinion, it is more profitable to drag out the conflict, so it seems to me that they are not supplying weapons to us, not to him because, in my opinion, it cannot fundamentally resolve the issue by military means. but

you can drag it out, but you say that it is beneficial for them in terms of domestic political, and in america is always foreign policy. this is a continuation of the internal policy that it is beneficial for them to drag it out and they supply weapons in a dosed manner. well, so that it doesn't tip the scale anywhere. you see, get away from what they control or think they control the process. and i’m kind of asking about the fact that, uh, to what extent can we be sure that they control it with their own clash, if you are asking in a metaphysical sense that these are different things, this process of war in ukraine now in my opinion , none controls. so she went into a state where no one controls him. we, by the way, are not americans, not europeans, not zelensky, but this is so philosophical. this is the part of the conflict that began, which she knows how she is, like the steppe.

she knows burn burn. she, she will burn it , this, this, has already gone beyond the human will , so imagine that at least one leader can now stop doing this in some way. this is naive. i think that this whole event has very serious consequences, which we still we do not understand. in my opinion. these are revolutionary consequences. they are revolutionary for us, because look, in principle, in russia, the economic model that has been in the country for 30 years has been abolished , but i call it compropriator capitalism. he practically ceased to exist. and somehow it happened just like that and disappeared. well, they just blocked the banks and everything is gone. but this is actually such and such a revolution, but this, well, the same thing is in the west - in this respect of the world, what is happening to them. this is also a revolutionary process. well, such things are not controlled, so imagine that

it is possible to somehow now e predict the movement. it seems to me that this is impossible, but another question is that all countries and all participants have interests anyway. they try somehow in this. it is worth it, so i mean that it is beneficial for the americans that she continues this longer, in order to weaken russia as much as possible, to inflict as much damage as possible, militarily and economically. by the way, within the framework. uh, this uh hmm what you started talking about, and for it’s just really for me, that’s the most interesting thing, exactly why i used the word sensation, it’s not analysis, because, well, a lot can be comprehended by analysis, but there is still the question of sensations exactly, i also remembered you more than once. uh, when we were here discussing in court. this is the tone, and the western press, including the american and british and european. but the tone of the last three weeks there, probably,

that, uh, means, uh, the russians are starting to win, we failed them ukraine failed to break them, uh ukraine has big losses ukraine i. eh, even here i said such a phrase, you wouldn’t decide in front of you. to say it, i’m just quoting myself then that at that moment stanislavsky didn’t turn on for you and i, as it were, didn’t really believe in it. you probably also hear this tonality of theirs that has appeared. and here you are, as it were, with your flair. uh, well creative. and how do you interpret it? here is this conversation of people who said a month and a half or two months ago that their task is to strangle russia, which i completely agree with you sets its own task. strangle her further and suddenly they started talking. oh, nothing works. something ukraine is weakening and so on. i have a feeling of being tricked. how would you interpret it. well, i think, listen, we are a friend, he says bluntly, they apparently regarded it, apparently, there was a certain amount of truth in this, that the operation

did not start very well for us. she was, apparently, there were miscalculations in intelligence, so to speak, this, well, you can’t erase words from a song. so apparently they had some feeling that it really could be, but now it is obvious that russia yes, this is a difficult war, it must be admitted, it is a lot of hard and did not teach. they did not take into account the consolidation of ukrainian society. they didn't take into account what they were. yes, they have become a nation to a large extent. they are motivated. we always say that we are one people. well, we are not the only people. they they they did it, well, this is how people fight when they are highly motivated, mind you , there are no political forces that would be on our side. that is, as they say, well, nevertheless, uh, still in the long run. it is clear that, well, in russia it is more powerful economically in military terms. therefore, therefore, it seems to me,

they felt that this e pere.

and that energy and food you can’t turn off such a country, its industry is still quite complicated for all the problems, therefore , it seems to me that all this affected them and they began to understand that russia can win and should win, but in this case , disaster for them. if this victory will be in kiev they need then i think they need to start some kind of system of negotiations in order to prevent us from coming to kiev and , in general, how to cancel ukraine. now, i think that's what they will do. now they are late. here biden goes to the arabian peninsula. ah, the saudis are too late to rebuild their scripts. this is actually, this is one more of the most important topics, which actually follows from what karen georgievich said that it really is. but we

all understand very well that we are discussing political science cx. we are fighting negotiations there actions, but we are now a witness. indeed, as you said, not a cyclical, but a cardinal e, some kind of change in the systemic systemic crisis in civilization in general, that is, all the foundations on which all this was built, both economically and politically and military in the end . it's all changing. and now the question is who are these changes. and well, more or less will begin to control them. uh, what can influence this, is it really the key question or what will happen here? and what saved it will be then, but we're moving on. it's to this now it's this nobody can, because you and i are happy witnesses of, uh, crisis, 500-year-old civilization. that is, you and i are witnesses of the dying of capitalism, and no one knows what will come to replace it. and 500 years of dominance.

west there is this agreement is a little bit there. in general, the west, by and large, is their main, yes , such, well, a breakwater of western civilization, and the crisis is not only in the key economic, but also all the mirrors of capitalism, all these liberal democracies of human rights and something like that, that is, even western culture, as a model for the world, that in fact, you know everything, here is the impression that everything is somehow like a husk, or, like clothes from a king, everything is so chik-chik-chik- chik-chik poured and that's it. so again naked have become good examples, because i have an impression in relation to my country. well. it always happens when our country starts a war. that is, it’s as if they’ve hit the country with a huge drain and the dust, rags begin to crumble. all this is not real and from this appears something completely different, something that i like, for example, but with your permission, i would

touch on two topics on two topics that georgievich spoke about, and beer about ukrainians and ukraine, eh. hmm, i do not agree that ukraine is ukrainians, how did the nation take place? why because, uh, this whole economy, which they got, uh, almost by chance, as a legacy is still uh, first of all, a fragment of the empire. and this territory did not grow from within. she just fell off them, this is a fragment of our empire. and this is the territory. she fundamentally a lot of people religiously and so on this territory and lays claim to it. uh, turks, uh hmm well, in this case, it is the tatars who bring this to our territory, well, i mean about the peoples who live here instead of the turks, this georgievich, as i understood him. he spoke about how the population of ukraine is behaving at the

moment in this conflict. this suggests that they are self-aware of something. we may like it or not. it can be done and it is definitely done by suppressing the last eight years, so to speak, everything, but they behave like a single whole. let there be insane frostbitten parts in parts, but as a whole they go about themselves, as a single whole. we have been talking about this for many years, that people who live here in western ukraine who consider themselves ukrainians with driven cracks, more precisely, with a look, that is, the quality of ukrainianness is not a sign of a nation, however, and they consider everyone else to be strangers, not theirs what nation. split not only for 30 years, but much more approximately along the line, kiev odessa they are the same they fight, and they have a right reason to fight, but when we ask, how would the russians of those whom they consider correctly. so rightly they will not fight agree with this. i have already given examples of people

who burned people who burned people, not people, people in odessa on the second day were not ukrainians. there were russian jews there. in general, the whole conglomerate that lives in odessa plus visitors from dnepropetrovsk and not from lviv, and when our veteran football fans came to talk with those who burned them, we meet, there are 30 people, and they are all russian and we are speaking. what are you doing? you fools are burning yours. these are the russians, and they are responsible. no, we are not russian. we are russian europeans. and here you are there, horde rusnya, this is moksha and so on, this is you there. and we are russian europeans. but what does this mean, we have a new nation appeared russian europeans who behave like nazis in our country, russian europeans behave like nazis in relation to us, as occupiers. in fact, including tv, tv channels culture is an information space and

not only because of this, this is a heterogeneous space. and those, what do we take prisoner, when we asked them, and no one, and not as a rule, not ukrainians, not russians. and he says what you are fighting for, and we tell him about everything for our country. this country has no definition, they have no pressure, if a person is ready to go into battle and die for something that has no definition. so this something ephemeral has become something tangible, you understand? here, if he didn’t have a country, and if he had some kind of invented one, like a saucepan on his head, he would n’t go into battle for it and die among people in the donbass were also ukrainian. i agree, but listen, people in the donbass also had ukrainians, but we're not talking about a passport. this is an advertisement for vtb and it's time to talk honestly. there are things that will not go away our decades of experience that helped us

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live, if something that is said before advertising and discussed before advertising in advertising, the experts continue, without stopping discussing this, which means that we are all together on the right path, on which karen georgievich you led us with these, with these words, not on purpose. i understand that it’s not on purpose, in fact, this is the most important conversation, and since there is political science there, economics, which you can talk a lot all the same, there are actions and actions depend on how they will develop, and when, so to speak, these two forces will collide and breaking one another very much depends, and so the question is what makes ukrainians fight. you said that they have become a nation, and therefore they are fighting this is the most important issue, because if, uh, they have become a nation and are fighting, then you need to understand what, in fact, they are fighting for as a nation, and can she synthesize what he said karen georgievich what sasha said and karen

georgievich what is possible? let's synthesize. see why they fight so well and here sasha is absolutely right. this here is a residual, venerable genetic level. uh, imperial consciousness, eh the second is what karen georgievich was talking about when they tried to mold a nation out of this with ideological ukrainianism, so by and large. you know, they don’t remind me, but religious neophytes, who are very much here that they defend. they are now their fire, this one is very bright and it is really completely irrational, because they behave according to the psychology of a neophyte , they never had statehood without russia, including without the soviet union, because geography was their destiny. they have always been a buffer between moscow and western europe therefore, well, that's what

they gave birth to - this is not for long. there is no need to be afraid, this will not turn out to be a state that can hold the entire population for a long time. now, uh, i wanted to, uh, object, so to speak, but now i see nikita sergeevich and i don’t agree. with which we do not agree. i will explain why this question is so interesting for me. this is the thesis, but because, uh, if you are fighting someone, you can call it a special military operation limited contingent war. uh, there are soviet troops somewhere, if you fight someone until you understand what is the basis of his resistance. and what do you forgive me for the cynicism, what do you need to break in order to defeat him until you understand what needs to be broken , you know, so, as it were, i am now rereading kipling. ricky tiki. china he knew for sure that the cobra needed to cling to a certain place on the neck.

and when he eats it. after that, the image can no longer fight until we understand what needs to be broken in order to break the resistance. it everything can be flipped. how much? i personally do not really understand, you do not agree with the indigenous, please, i do not agree dear. i don't want to appear rude. yes, but here is the very thesis that they are fighting well. let's just dissect it. yes, they place, including multiple rocket launchers on the territory and hospitals, kindergartens. our guys handsome, our officers, our soldiers are jewelry, trying to move forward. and i have repeatedly spoken about this to our ministry of defense. kadyrov spoke about this. shoigu that the pace of a specially military operation is what it is, because they are trying to the maximum, and to do without victims of the civilian population, the second we do not kill. just so we capture even the most notorious nazis, who are

terrorists, which, well, in my opinion. again, not a professional civilian certainly deserve death. and the most cruel thing on the field is to be afraid of the american mercenary, who have just taken it. i took the third moment exclusively numerically, they also talked about it repeatedly by the way, western analysts admire this for the conduct of a special military operation and the offensive of our groupings in conditions when the number of opposition four is five times greater. well , in general, it has no analogues in the world. now, if again, based on this, here again, yes modulo. now, if there were the same number, if the ukrainians, as georgievich says, would really not be covered by civilians as a human shield. here, then it would be possible to fully assess the degree of their stubbornness of fighting spirit, there and so on and so forth in the current conditions, when they carry out these orders, and western instructors, when they

are told what to do, when nazi detachments stand behind grad, and to say that they have formed as a politically attached political nation, in my opinion. wrong is not the last moment. but we proceed from the understanding that the ukrainians. and over the past eight years, anti-russian russophobic propaganda has really been under pressure from this western propaganda. and the feeling the fact that we are anyone, but not russian and so. indeed, somehow here they consolidated, but i have a question in these conditions of consolidation on let's remember millions of europe, i just wanted to say 5 million europe sell. uh check out. uh, adult sexually mature men for tens of thousands of euros by the way, this is a political nation. yes, i just remember, again, the historical period is very difficult for our country, including for ukraine. and the civil war, then people fought against each other with such bitterness in the same way moreover, as we remember historically, a civil

war always ends with a total victory for one of the parties, even when hostilities end. in fact, the civil war continues and in these conditions, in my opinion. it is necessary to perceive what is happening in ukraine as the consequences of the collapse of the empire, the civil war, because, of course, our people there have different values, which they consider to be the most interesting, but in parallel. this is also very important this this is re-flashed to another ideology, but people found the basic artic. and this is a very difficult moment quite unexpectedly, dear colleagues. pride month has now been declared in the west. eh, this is when during the month it is very important during the week, and events begin to be held in support of the lgbt community of all kinds of innovative social orientations. excuse me nikita one second. you know that before the withdrawal of the army for afghanistan, a month of pride was being held there. i'm just ukraine

, despite all this total flashing, despite all this zombification, there was a huge amount of money that was poured in, not a single substantive real event. no, that is political. this is a zombie add-on , there is some kind of russophobic one. it is at the value level that is at the very base of the value level of the position. yes, it's still ours. i'm, after all, why am i so interested in this e thesis of yours, which is, well, controversial for someone, because who they have become and how who they oppose. well, some of them resist. now this is the answer to us not only to the question about the war about what needs to be broken in order to win. this is the answer to the question about the peace that should then come one or the other and who are the people with whom we will deal with after the end of hostilities one way or another. and

this question is insanely interesting, firstly, you do n’t attribute me to what i didn’t say, i didn’t say that our army is not heroic, or courageous, so to speak, you know, i didn’t talk about it already. although to be honest, if you say that our army is five times smaller, then me a question. and why is it necessary to fight an army five times smaller, if in such a serious struggle, why is it necessary, maybe necessary? or you understand other areas of tension, and then, maybe, it will be easier. but all my what i say is dictated by only one understanding that we need victory if you need victory you must really look at things you don’t need to deceive yourself. there is no need to deceive yourself. now, if you are because in order to understand who ukrainians are today - it depends on how fight in this war. that's the term, artyom fought in afghanistan, as far as i remember, so i'll give you an example. what afghanistan is is a

completely different nation than we are muslims, and for the most part very radical all over the world, nevertheless, we had allies in afghanistan. and why? because we had allies, they were there, maybe this way and that, but they were there, and moreover, it was an army, it was those there sometimes, they betrayed us. well, they fought properly and after our departure 3 years to check without us. why was this, but in ukraine, which you say, we are one nation, this is not. how there is no donetsk lugansk well, apart from luhansk donetsk, there is no more. we eat because, well, you understand, it’s easy to convince yourself that this is so, but in order for me to talk about it, it scares me a little. this is the attitude towards ukraine. you are right that this is a fragment of the empire, but you are wrong that because of the fragments of the empire, nations do not appear. listen, the whole of

europe appeared from the fragments of the roman empire; it was also the roman empire. they were fragments, then became nations 30 years have passed, i have passed exactly the same way as you have said many times here in this program, well, yes, ukraine 12. here is western , here is eastern, right now. i think i was probably wrong, we don't know something. well, you need to know this. and why do you need to know this for victory , because one is armed? it is not enough to find motives for this. how to contact them, how to conduct an information war, well, strictly speaking, if we keep telling people who today themselves feel like a nation that we will deprive you of statehood. so they will fight to the last, they will fight to the last. maybe it's not really. it’s true, maybe you need to offer people something, with what you need to attract them , some kind of ideology should be like in afghanistan, what ideologies attracted correctly, but

i mean that you shouldn’t turn a blind eye to what these 30 years in ukraine apparently i'm talking because it's not you, i don't really know, but i judge because there, because i see, i see that these people are captured and they say that we are russians, listen, well, this is such a thing in captivity and you won’t say something, you know, it means for these 30 years. having broken away from really from russia, they brought up, yes, under the influence of westerners, but they, apparently, brought up strong ones, but this is necessary, in general, no matter how we say it, but our military admits that they fight so much, it’s impossible, it’s impossible do not evaluate the enemy like that. this must be understood. and if we underestimate, listen to this when it ends badly, so it is necessary in order to understand with whom you have to do, so that to win you need to really understand the situation and you need

to understand who you are howling with, and how to address, uh, the people you are talking to, because it is important for us that they lay down their arms. it is important for us to somehow attract them with something, then this stream, then, of course, of course, well, how about this idea of ​​this idea, let's turn them all into russians. well, listen, well, as it were, tell me. yes, apparently, tell the people of dnepropetrovsk that they are ukrainians. well, i'm only talking about what karen geruch says. i'm even here i'll stand here because you told the believers to argue. and i agree with him. i want to add something else to what has been said, just about afghanistan, after all. you understand this. we have seized on the word nation, not nation, i don’t know whether they did it in the nation or not in us. i only know one thing, that the afghans themselves and the nation of themselves are not deserts, they treat tajiks very condescendingly, tajik, and so they are quite suspicious of the punic people all together. they do not consider the khazarians to be people, and

therefore the khazarians were our main allies, bellucci is there somewhere to separate, but, but in their case, the key point that we did not immediately understand, and it was a mistake key point no matter the nation, not to be lazy. there is a moment in their psychology that when people from the outside come with weapons, they forget the pashtuns. are they tajiks balochi or khazars? they join and start. it means, as if they are one with this, with the british or with the russians or with these, then, when it ends, they become empty again and exactly only at the moment when we this feature of theirs was understood by the year 86 in the eighty- fourth eighty-fifth. well, until the middle of the eighty-sixth, all that i served was the biggest loss exactly at the moment when we realized this feature of them, we will not say the nation. their team seems to be exactly understanding. this

started the policy of national reconciliation. we immediately had allies, immediately the armies began to fight differently, and so on. it seems to me that we are talking about winning the war in fact the war in fact. here it is, if not for yeltsin stopped, that's what we are talking about, this element is the most amazing thing in the fact that i absolutely agree with what koren georgievich says, but disagree. well, uh, the program time will tell, we are working for you. yes, paradoxical disputes are interesting conversations of deep blood. wait 18-20:00 second. previously, they imagined a second ago, wait, because when armed people, supposedly strangers, leave, then they begin to fight with each other. and here, too, we are now. here, i understand, in my opinion, now that why does my scruff tighten when i i hear the words that we have ukraine, there are ukrainians, because today is actually yesterday, and not the

day after tomorrow. we must answer a fundamental question for our military, and they are fighting with no one against the ukrainians, so this is what it is about. if a community of people, about which we do not fully understand everything, when it seems we remember what we entered into a special military operation with. i will not quote the supreme commander from his great article. there last year's summer and so on. here, for example, zakhab, prilepin is my friend. how does he calls our unfortunate enemy? why yes , because he is for them and i, too. we are worried about them. they for us, it's us, too, only now temporarily crazy, if we believe that we are one people. but this people and this part of our people is in a state of temporary insanity. we must destroy those who bring them into this state, that is, about the nazi

kiev bandera regime, and then we understand the difference between the basics and the heights. and if we are at war with the ukrainians, then colleagues, dear, no special military, and so on. it's war then this is a war between russia and russians and ukraine and ukrainians. that is, you, that is, here i understand what you are talking about, that the factor that creates a feeling of some kind of unity. this is a kind of nazism ukrainians, which is this one, well, roughly speaking, a unifying story that if you split, well, many countries, as if you yourself all contradict ours. if you share azov with everything, but we shared what we got as a result, because today everyone is already saying, well, you can’t share. azov is and he did not have time to live. sasha i'll finish you say damn, well, the president has precisely defined the tasks, denocification. demilitarization,

liberation of donbass, citizens are at war with ukraine special operations unusual bimlitarization of ukraine a. not donetsk luhansk kherson and parts of the zaporozhye region. in any case , i have not heard of the formulation of the identification of other tasks. i, too, only all the tasks that the president announced at the beginning of the game to say that we are one people. yes, where did the ukrainians from ukraine come from at the operational level, we are engaged in tofication ukraine precisely because for us it is an existential threat, which is either life or death. yes? what about patriarchy, right? the same, and this is the first second. and what tasks do we have here i need to compare with afghanistan. and if in afghanistan

, our task was nevertheless to keep the same united west from reaching central asia, and i was just in the seventy-ninth year, and i saw what was happening and i understood, i was not known that moment everything is clear. yes, we didn't agree. you do not agreed were in afghanistan if anything, everyone understood. so what i want to say. i understand that karen georgy is reading a very interesting question. i had a question specifically for you in connection with this zavoe. and the development before the military, as it were, the development of the territory is one thing, and holding it is another. you raise the issue of retention. i don't know if it's possible to sync the conquest along with the hold. is it possible to solve these issues of a socio -structural nature by the military? i think we will discuss this again. you know i'm right now

i thought about how the text with which i was going to finish the program today in any case follows from what we just talked about, and argued so interestingly, because it seems to me that this text, among other things, gives an answer to the question about what happened to ukraine, what happened to ours with part of our people under what is it? from bandera. not it's getting more complicated and the text that i prepared today in order to complete this program. he wrote about this text for a minute in 1893. about banderlog kiplings, they have no law, they don't have their own dialect, they use stolen words that they overhear when they peep at us hiding in the branches, they don't have

our customs, they live without leaders. they have no memory, they boast, they talk, they assure that they are a great people ready to do great things in the jungle, but a nut falls, it becomes funny to them, and they forget a lot of them. they are evil dirty have no shame. and if they have any particular desire, it is precisely the desire to be noticed in the jungle, but we do not pay attention to them, even when they throw dirt and nuts on our heads. but at the sight of a sick wolf. a wounded tiger or bear, the monkeys descend to the ground and torment them for fun in the hope of attracting the attention of the animals. they constantly throw nut branches at them, in addition, they howl, shout out meaningless songs, invite the people of the jungle climb up to them and engage in battle with them, or for no reason start fierce fights among themselves and throw dead monkeys where the population of thickets can wither these corpses. they're all going to choose their own leader. draw

up their own laws, come up with their own customs, but they never fulfill their plans, because their memory is not enough until the next day, in order to justify themselves, they composed a saying, what banderlog thinks about. now the jungle will think later and this is a great encouragement to their stupid chattering conceited creatures . they get bored with the nuts they pick up and throw them on the ground. they drag a branch for 6 hours. intending to accomplish great things with her help, and then they break it in half, they have no law, no hunting call, no leaders, nothing but stupid words and small pinching thieves' hands. it seems to me that this text, which was written by kipling in the jungle book in the chapter hunting, is partly about what happened to ukraine, that part of ukrainians that are beautifully described here in the form of banderlogs. she she this part temporarily took over

and for me this is the answer from what and from whom they need to be freed, you can call it nazis, you can call it nazis, you can call it, but you understand everything. what is described here is what happened there for the last 8 years. and in this book it is described that both the strong bagheera and the strong balu bear were afraid of them and could not do anything with them , and only the great one was calm and unhurried, who was in no hurry anywhere. he came and dealt with banderlogs. i think we will deal with those banderlogs that we crushed today ukraine and all the rest of us live there normally. well, not for nothing that kipling wrote for some reason. this is 128 years ago. so it looks like what we have been observing for the

last eight years, the information channel on the first continues its broadcast program. time will tell we are working live right now. we have the opportunity to contact the assistants to the minister of internal affairs of the lugansk people's republic vitaly kiselyov vitaly hello another humanitarian corridor. today they tried to open it from the territory of the chemical plant. nitrogen i again. it failed, as i understand it. what details do you have good afternoon russia good afternoon ruslan well, i want to say that this humanitarian corridor, it was open, i think, from 10.00 . from severodonetsk, the population to the rubizhne region and then through the filtration camp distributed them to the settlements of the luhansk people's republic mainly. these are elderly women, these are children and the disabled, whom our

servicemen help. eh, considering that severodonetsk itself lacks lighting, very little water and food. and uh, the city itself is under a lot. uh, sighting fire from lysichansk. um, well, it's hard to survive there and it's hard to watch just civilians die, so many times we met with them and said that you need a little bit who is, who has the opportunity to get out, those, in my opinion, who do not have the opportunity we provide assistance. i mean, maybe it's hard, lying there, our medical workers are working with them. and as for the general nitrogen. eh, the situation is generally extremely closed in the sense that no one comes out of there and no one will be going to leave azot either. why are they so hooked on him and are not going to leave, because even from the territory of azov they nevertheless became small groups for the first few days. that's

when well, before the full-scale evacuation, they tried to break through. yes, they are not sitting on nitrogen, yes, helicopters came in. we know about it. uh, at a low altitude, they tried to evacuate her to him and bring some ammunition and bring someone out. here is the situation. directly opposite due to the fact that there are still a large number of mercenaries on the territory, in general, severodonetsk. these are mercenaries from america - these are mercenaries from great britain from poland well, such a contingent, you know, packs of jackals who are trying, so to speak, to help ukraine at least something, taking into account the fact that the local population. which went back there, it is a hostage there, how many local people are there, but approximately somewhere around 1,000 people, but this is a lot. yes, unfortunately it is possible that, uh, people want to get out, but they don’t know how

to do it, those who were directly forcibly driven there. well, the nazis also went there. same. uh, there are police officers who fought against uh, our units. they just took their families from rubizhne and severodonetsk severodonetsk, they now strengthened only on nitrogen, this is the only place, and they just believe that the alleged kiev junta their government will give them the opportunity to make a corridor, especially since they come out with a demand not with a request for initiation. yes, in relation to making a corridor for civilians, no, in no case do they need it. they will be covered until the last moment by the civilian population. until the last moment they will try to somehow get across the river. seversky donets uh, there

are, unfortunately, brody places through which they can pass. but these are units of a unit, because under targeted our artillery fire. uh, the territory is controlled and before lysychansk there will still be sand through the forests, you need to try to go through open areas, so this is not an option, and today they are shelling severodonetsk and disrupting this humanitarian corridor. they thereby, uh, show both the population and everyone else that there is no way out of here for anyone. and you any any going out will be destroyed on tuesday. we talked, gave uh important information that there are about 600 foreign mercenaries there , this topic was circulated by everyone news agencies, but many ask interested. perhaps you have information. what is the nationality of these mercenaries? you know, mercenaries have neither a flag nor a nationality, a mercenary is one who will not be recognized as a

prisoner of war and those who will be recognized by our court and subject to capital punishment, but regarding by nationality. if that's the case, yes, we have information that there are americans there, we know that there are americans in the uk, maybe there well, there are not many of them, there are about 30 or 40 people there. americans in the uk are poles , you said, but most of all poles yes , there are a lot of poles, and also from the words from rubizhne, so i was literally the other day in the most milestone, again visited and talked with the local population. all this is confirmed by the fact that even non-germans were there two or three people. well , at least the speech, that was also what concerns the americans, the british say, uh, there were a lot of them here. they are very free here they felt and when they left, they were doing the same robbery by whom. what is ukraine doing today? nihera to himself that this is the population,

as if ukraine is considered, but they rob their own by and large, but in the percentage of these mercenaries it turns out on nitrogen, and at times more than their territory. the call of steel. well, at least they 're alive. at least since it is today we are through uh. hmm, we also receive our intelligence from intercepts. it turns out that it is, but due to the fact that we are in no hurry to clean up. uh, this this territory, because uh you saw uh, mistakes. we did not hide ours, and we began to azov, so all these mistakes are taken into account, and we will slowly move forward. they won't go anywhere. in any case, there are not so many places through which it will be possible to pass them in the seversk condensation, and they are already under the control of our artillery and our units of formations, and we will continue to cut this neck so that they have no opportunity at all there were shares now, so that they do not

reach, because our divisions in this direction works well and clearly. i think in the near future there will be just those who surrendered, maybe a prisoner of war, who will confirm my words about what is actually happening there. you have said well. fighters who do not have citizenship, nationality and flag, but we have a flag with you. today, i don't know, you know, you don't know, the flag of the russian federation appeared on the stele at the entrance to severodonetsk . that's exactly why i always say that all those who came to donbass committed crimes. and at every crime has a last name, first name and address, we will find everyone and bring them to the people's court. thank you very much for these words. and i join, probably, all of our studios. uh, vitaly, assistant minister of the interior of the lugansk people's republic, was in direct contact with us. viktorovich kiselev, well, and we antonchik are returning to the situation in the territory of nitrogen to the situation on the hmm fronts as

a whole. and uh, the issue with the mercenaries. let's pedal the fly separately cutlets separately first. well , no one knows how many of these militants are there, because for one simple reason no one read them. everything about the second time. i agree with the coming that now there is absolutely no sense to run an assault there. it's easier to surround the corner included now. and after that, clean up the rest of the whole thing. moreover, our troops in this direction are moving well, they are performing this task when we block completely from severodonetsk and now, in fact, the same thing on different banks a little bit. well, what's the difference, therefore, within the framework of this, i propose. i i believe i and watch what happens. now i understand that they are not going to take this nitrogen. i don't see the point, they are quietly grouping around the circle. these cities will methodically wait. and

after that, they will crawl out on their own. the leaders of the city will not go anywhere, but the front will go further, that is, the front will leave, and they will remain in deep labor, mariupol remained, and then it will already be possible to calmly put, at least the people who will deal with this matter, the rest of the units, go to the regional restoration of combat readiness. give it time to rest i will use people equipment, ammunition, weapons. well, and so on and so forth and calmly use it in other areas, because it concerns mercenaries. but, when he says that they came there to help ukraine well, to be honest, lucas came to earn money to earn it in ukraine, in papua new guinea , in afghanistan, or somewhere else. it's purely people who came for money. they don't have any morals . it's just that they're being paid at this stage, how are we then the mercenaries who came with the money to distinguish from the active officers of foreign armies, who are there under the guise of instructors, who are dismissed retroactively

, and we already know these cases, to carry them with their feet , to be honest, i would like to interrogate them first. i think, but we have greens in russia for everyone , enough for an immediate amount by and large , so the first thing is most important. here are these three children, who are two british and one maracan. they should be shot in public, or better yet hanged. after that, i beg you that everything the rest is the brothers half immediately empty . the mercenaries they came to die, they came to earn money and as soon as it is extremely clear that he will hang on a pole on a rope, he will be pecked at the gate. they will be blown away by the wind with a fly, so it’s not here that you don’t need to bother with these mercenaries in this matter, but to understand there they are acting, they are not acting. i assure you. we have intelligence agencies. they are quite professional with us, after all, damn it, not a ship, really, yes. honduras they figure out who's acting where the current one, i’ll tell you more, most likely, our

specialists. they know sitting here, of course, knows everyone. so they answer whom to take whom to take, therefore, when we took azov steel. well, let's be honest. there was at one time an information vacuum once something was taken silence spices will figure it out, information is needed not to be left not because it is not necessary for everyone it is necessary for some narrow circle so that it does not harm our future actions, including in ukraine therefore, i i want to ask you two things here first. eh, no matter how much you need to bother with the northern hitch, you need to eat the grouping now, the second. uh, the specifier will do their job, they'll sort. flies separately cutlets separately, who needs to show. only which ones are shown here, and with the rest, all other events will be held there . i agree. here the event is being held not only by us , but western politicians are also trying to hold their tongues to say that they arrived today trinity, three guards of the cardinal arrived. e

from france italy and germany went came to kiev was immediately sent on a tourist route to irpeya, they drove in with cheerful joyful faces, and all the happy happy ones don’t have any bulletproof vests on them at the station. this means there is no threat, respectively, most likely with our specialists. yes , they said, according to the godfather, the floor, it was immediately necessary to screw it up right away and everything was fine. so, there are some tasks. now, perhaps tomorrow they will be declared agents of putin because it is impossible to come to impose certain requirements, but they make a certain statement there photographed arrived in irpen as i said, huh? let's look at the macron's statement, the macron said that irpin is the place where ukraine needs to be able to support and gain an advantage. this is a macron in irpen said, he said this after he said that irpen is a vivid proof of the war crimes of the russian army, such statements he made, but

let's listen to the statement that the german chancellor and scholz made. irpin exactly like bucha has already become a symbol of the unimaginable the cruelty of the russian war is a symbol of senseless violence, the terrible devastation in this city is literally a monument to the war. and this war must end. nikita that arrived? well, what was discussed? two versions , there is the first version, that this is really an attempt by the europeans to convince zelensky to make territorial concessions, because before these statements, the macron, very very carefully , said that russia pay attention to the photos to cuba, uh. here on his face, if if the audience can take a close look. eh, something is somehow not very there sitting happy. and zelensky himself is like that, again, i'm not big, there is an expert on etiquette and diplomatic protocol, but look at this ridicule. yes, many people can treat european politicians differently. uh, absolutely fair, they are exactly the same clowns as for, but just look at how in what shirt this person

is sitting with what face, that is, so blatantly unprofessional . that is, look. i am also very important, because he also spits kuleba with such a look. the person of a high-ranking representative of europe who came to discuss something, so i want to return to my version that, despite the fact that they, in general, actually already demand that zelensky make territorial concessions, europe still helps them, but there is a second version and that one, it seems to me, also needs to be said that in the current conditions, maybe everything is at stake, in other words, zelensky will say well. we continue to supply you with weapons until the autumn. we will indeed be waiting for your military victories, but if you do not provide them, then financial assistance will end and military assistance will end, and in this case we will do nothing if ukraine loses its statehood. here are two options. in my mind, in my mind. the best option - this is the first option, because the europeans are already feeling the most severe

problem with energy, with inflation, with food, they always solve problems. they come to solve only their political problems. let's remember. like back in march. the same scholtz. the same macron and so on said that we would defeat the russians with weapons with the help of ukrainian soldiers on ukrainian soil, and then in general ukraine will go to recapture the crimea that now the rhetoric has changed dramatically, and this is important before the arrival of the macron, he says, russia is part of europe too. i’m surprised that after such statements, the macron was not hung up on the peacemaker website, because this is, well, a typical fight. now let's check if vladimir e. it seems to me that there are absolutely two versions, they are absolutely working, but it seems to me that there is a third one. e version, as if the continuation of the second they came, uh, to kiev in order to propose a certain truce plan, with which minsk will agree three or kiev-1 for the nose, as with one e purpose you

ask russia for a truce in order to give, uh, ukraine you in ukraine and the west to prepare right, they realized that it would no longer be possible to decide for russia. haven't understood yet. the fact is that they seem to me, now they are trying to impose this kiev in one and then in august-september to carry out this longed-for contraception, uh, which are either in or in the kharkov region, or on donbass, or as they promise, they directly promise both the butcher and zelensky and everyone else to kherson well, but for this, in order to excuse me, it was possible to bring up the weapons. that’s not enough for me in small batches, uh, from different directions. here it is to impose and deceive the tick. the first is obvious that the truce is some kind of completely unrealistic story sergey consider, and

not just a truce, uh, unrealistic. and what happened today. well, in general, he exposes this whole group of middle-aged men as just clowns, that is, the three of them came to kiev, i ask you to turn attention. four of us. yeah, uh, three of us came to me. this is the fourth one there somehow turned out to say, like the caliber was supposed to fly in. no, no, in fact , the whole of europe looks at the pictures of summer kiev and does not understand. and in fact, where the war, by the way, they promised war, we were told that 5 million refugees were terrible destruction. they walk around smiling at the wonderful weather, and in general people in military uniforms are recommended to go to kiev nightclubs for turnovers. restaurants, they say, everything works in full scale. well, according to the protocol, they can't, they wouldn't with pleasure. we would go like this, what happened today, and today, or rather, the day before yesterday and yesterday, and the throughput capacity of the nord stream fell three times, and plus a fire suddenly broke out at the novy urengoy field and gas prices for

supplies in july have already soared by one and a half thousand for 1,000 cubic meters. well, i don't know how to interpret it. i can interpret it in the following way. and this is the same blow to the decision-making centers, the main decision-making center in europe - this is the city of berlin, this is a blow to west germany on the most important. this is just the skeleton of the european union of its foundations. this is the most important thing, the industrial economy of europe will simply collapse now. and after that, all other european countries will fall down. and after that, given the size of trade with the united states. here is the chris who is untwisted in the usa after the rate increase, the whole world is in ruins. it's called the whole world. today, vladimir vladimirovich sergienko visited us a little earlier, he told us a unique story that in france it turns out that air conditioning is forbidden residential buildings, and less than 25 ° lower air conditioners. just to eat less electricity, and in berlin,

air conditioners are generally prohibited in the residential sector. that is, they are not there. that is, what happens next. it's a big, big, big, big question. victoria what, huh? well, that’s victoria , i don’t know what else to call these tourists, here we are helping the liberated territories, humanitarian aid was sent here, these tourists arrived. here are the scholts, they brought some suitcase of salt, what did they come with? i think, what is important to understand here. uh, a few of those basic, foundational things. the first is that there is no reason to believe the statements, even of official persons. eh, the west from the expediency of resuming any kind of negotiation process, firstly, they are already waging this war with those mercenaries who are now currently in ukraine, secondly. they are bombing with nato weapons. directly on the territory of donetsk, the third, namely the west, convinces kiev that it is necessary to continue these hostilities, but here what kind of, that is, he

the west is trying to scan this conflict, but even from the point of view of that. occurs e from the us byte position. well, what is he doing now allocating a billion dollars again for violation yes , definitely, but i think we will also touch on this topic a little later, that is, but there is an understanding that the success of the special operation, and russia, is going against the backdrop of a failure entirely. uh, sanctions, but the entire policy against our country against the backdrop of collapse is an economic system that has been formed, which will ultimately lead to the end of us hegemony and unipolar vera, perhaps tourists have come to finish behemonia, including, but today, nevertheless, explosions in donetsk continue and we are in direct contact with donetsk, deputy of the people's council of the dpr , chairman of the committee for construction and housing and communal services vladislav leonidovich berdichevsky vladislav leonidovich hello, tell me, please what's going on in donetsk how is the situation. good afternoon ruslan in donetsk, as usual, every day

since morning kuibyshevsky kirovsky and petrovsky districts were shelled, and at 4:00 in the morning a hurricane arrived, uh from avdiivka in the proletarian district of donetsk that is, there is not a single area in donetsk left that, uh, would not have been under fire and traditionally. uh, of course, gorlovka is traditionally shelled, uh, sovdeevka and hay, that is, the entire spectrum as usual, well, only the city center. pah-pah, thank god, today i have not yet come under shelling, but how is the restoration process going, because the guys who are engaged in the restoration of the builders of the ministry of emergencies this is just a hero , and here we are today in the state duma a bill was introduced to equate civilian professions with combat veterans who are engaged in restoration. uh, firefighters and doctors who work under shelling are coping well, look, i’ll just name the numbers so that the audience understands what we are talking about on the first

day of june, 32,000 buildings were destroyed, of which 5,000 are multi-storey buildings, that is, 5,000. here are ordinary nine-story buildings. if you imagine 25,000 private houses, and, uh, more than a thousand - this is a building, here are hospitals, kindergartens, some sports schools structures, that is, the amount of damage is huge, uh, and restoration - it’s now necessary to force the liberated cities. for example, mariupol needs to be prepared for winter in some way, and now it’s already mid-june, so the pace will now be, uh, people will work furiously in three shifts. and, of course. i think that they deserve to be equated with civilian specialties, really combatants that they build and work under shelling, unfortunately. there are a lot of dead and they hit the civilian infrastructure. we know that the coronazis have such a practice of hitting exactly where they are. where gas,

for example, is supplied with water, it is not by chance that we encounter this, but these shellings, which were on the thirteenth of the 14th and continue today, do not continue in the same way on civilian infrastructure facilities. yes, yes, that’s exactly how it is today, the proletarsky district is a dormitory, a vocational school hostel, where there have never been any military units nearby. well, that's all, uh, and i also want to note that there is a hit on the shelling there. uh, to the places where people left, that is, there is no one there. of course, they are not fixed, that is, that is the entire number of shelling. i think that the plus should be multiplied by 30 percent, because it flies somewhere into the milk. we can't fix it, but they have these attacks, that is, a very huge amount of ammunition. now the west has delivered to ukraine and ukraine already, without hesitation, fully begins to shell. those weekends were terrible. i hope they don't happen again. hopefully here's this one, which is infamous already known. unfortunately he already

works it managed to be restored at least partially. i think that within a couple of weeks, everything will be fully restored there. yes, it works glazing is restored. well, we have experience in such emergency recovery. so i think that everything will be there. well, literally next week already in order. thank you very much, if vladislav leonidovich berdichevsky, chairman of the committee for construction and housing and public utilities of the people’s council of the dpr, was in direct contact with us, work, of course, our guys will have a lot to restore and it seems to me that this is an initiative because it is very important to equate these guys with combat veterans. they are really under fire already now. united russia has introduced a law that those people are civilians, that is, real in military service, who work in a combat zone with a difference to combat veterans. this law has now been introduced for the first reading. i think within his month he will be accepted. i mean, it's already gone. it speaks to how we think about people. yeah i guess now we're special drive 'cause that we have and not only there, who builds civilian

personnel in the armed forces. those who are auxiliary support vessels. that the fleet that provides the snake they work in the war zone, and they will be overcome, including to the veterans of their actions with all these benefits, that there is a very correct initiative and now an international economic forum is being held in st. petersburg, at which our colleague, host of the first channel program. good morning. polina tsvetkova spoke with the head of the new people faction on aleksey nechaev and learned from her how our country copes with western sanctions. it was a very interesting conversation. let's listen. alexey gennadyevich at the forum talks a lot about changes in the economy, or rather in its structural part. now, speaking in simple terms to ordinary people, why wait for what to prepare for? and what exactly will change? first, no need to worry, yes, that is, the most important one himself. yes, do not fuss when there are big changes. the main thing is not to shine, but the structure of the economy will change a little. oh, we probably

less will be the contribution of raw materials and more will develop the domestic economy, what is called the word import substitution. blimey. this is good for the country. that's more jobs. it's more value added in that sense. in the long term, the country will benefit from this , professions will change more, that is, we will need to learn to retrain. well, it seems to me that our people are also ready for this time, when you mastered the profession once, then all your life you work has already ended. we are ready for these changes change, that is, the main one, probably to be flexible, but in matters of all changes and not to rush into hot, no decisions need to be made, especially now. and if we are talking about the professions of the future here are the graduates, yes, now, probably, the future of the graduates is especially interesting, where it is better to navigate. which industry may be more in demand. well, firstly, now a lot of it people have left us

, so here are industries and scientific developments automation robotics go there directly people are looking for very high salaries in this area of ​​it. therefore, you can safely go there? this is, firstly, and secondly, everything related to the creation of goods. uh, chemists are product managers people who have engineering competencies. this is also a very sought-after profession, people who have an entrepreneurial mindset, because now you need no time for a long time to plan something for a long time . yes, some imitate something now needs to be done, so people have always been in great demand and now, they are especially in demand. indeed, people have always been and will be in demand, especially in the situation in which the whole world is now and our country and the republic of tashkovskoye of the luhansk region in the forest

literally walked over the heads of civilians, they drove the civilians into the mine and did not let them out, knowing that our troops they will never shoot at crowds of civilians for real lives, but our guys managed to free them and let's listen to the stories of the locals. they didn't come out. you were blocked by the facts, and indeed all the roads along which sis, hello and where were you taking refuge? how to get to you treated? there is practically no take, in general they only persuaded us to endlessly take us to the side of ukraine. but as far as

they tried, they didn’t succeed, it turns out to go out with them, well, to the humanitarian corridor, and as they were called, 5 minutes pass us into stress . well, so to speak, they are pushing us. this story was told and filmed by news front correspondent alexander reko, and he is in direct contact with us alexander hello. tell me the details in all other localities where uh is located all the way. uh. these are exactly such crowds of people, as in some kind of mine, we would have a refuge, where there were people, this is the last area for which they hold on, because well, obviously people for them this cover was the same with toshka and here people. this was the last section. this is a settlement

where they still kept the vsu, which, however, is not surprising. uh, and uh, right there, uh, unfortunately, they were n’t let out, and only when you had already managed to get around the village from the flanks, did they fully understand that there was nothing to hold on to there. uh, gone turned out to evacuate people, but unfortunately it becomes much more difficult to do this, because artillery to shoot at places where mm the military understands that there are civilians and not just civilians, but their large concentration, of course, is impossible and because of this offensive often it stops just at such moments, uh, in general, uh hmm, honestly, the military and the lpr do not understand russia and, uh, the civilians themselves. why are they staying there? after all

, it is obvious that already, uh, here. uh, in particular, the gold near the fact that where it is already practically surrounded, ah, but no order to withdraw. uh, for some reason, the command of all forces makes them hold out to the last in those places where it is already obvious that there are no prospects. no more than that there are settlements. uh, such as borovskoye south of severodonetsk uh, which well have no strategic value. they are located in a lowland surrounded by a plantation or forest belt. and most importantly, severodonetsk has already taken. hmm, but nevertheless there are no orders to retreat, here the same thing was from toshivka and now it is going gold. ah, well obviously, uh, well, just like the military, who communicated with the prisoners, say. eh, there i put it and in all these terbs and mobilized. uh, everyone who is now

here in the donbass inspires them all, that you have to be patient just a little more and there will be that very mythical offensive, which, uh, the leadership of ukraine is constantly talking about well, of course. everyone is waiting for help from the west, i don’t know how much it can no longer be judged. and it’s not all real for us, but they hold on and cling to every site. and zaka it's all because they have to retreat. eh? actually failure, uh, already through the territory controlled by the lugansk people's republic, the same thing happened. here, returning to toshkovka, and the village was already taken quite a long time ago, but on one of its extreme streets, where this very mine is located, where there were people. they held on to hold on to uh save a retreat route from uh, and to

supply the golden spot the plot is small, yes. yes , yes, let's see. there are about 50 people from shakhta in the area, plus or minus i didn’t specify on two infantry to clarify. but decently around 50 for sure civilian people. well, the inhabitants of toshkovka were sitting here. these are the ones that were kept in the mine in the cellars there. now they have been taken out. with the help of our infantry there, with the help of the commandant’s office, they are now evacuating ah, if i’m not mistaken, either in kirovsk or the ordinary wars were silent somewhere far away from here, local residents who were sitting there in the mine in the basement, which covered the valiant ukrainian wars, so that we do not work on them, because if we understand that there are civilians

. we can't go there, it's very slow promotion. we can't work there normally with artillery, so that they don't hit the civilian population, they use it. therefore, there is always some kind of fuss somewhere. they try there people 10-15 minutes of people with them just, well, how ballast to hide behind, and that is, we understand that we cannot finish the peaceful people there with artillery. thank you very much, alexander reka was in direct contact with us with a wonderful report. well, how wonderful and reporting - it's like journalistic, good work. and here's what the events we are talking about. unfortunately, it's sad. thank you very much alexander for your work drives, mines and keeps people there, yes, and this is against the backdrop of, as it were, support from the west on the eve of the arrival of european leaders in kiev, er zelensky social with british prime minister boris johnson and us president joe biden following the results of this telephone conversation, joe biden,

promised ukraine and zelensky to help in the amount of $ 1 billion for a minute, and yesterday stoltenberg promised them new weapons. they are yesterday there was another meeting of ministers. uh, the defense of the nato countries rammstein 3 is the so-called and, in fact, these statements led some ukrainian generals to believe in themselves, who began to name the specific goals for which these weapons would be used, let's listen. if before the ukrainian military receives crazy weapons from them, this is also a little bit already there for the issue of crimea , there is an american european one. here, uh, the kerch bridge is one of the goals. yes, this is 100%, well, it’s not a secret either for their military or for our military either for their civilians, not for our civilians, this will be the number one target to defeat. and now,

today, the minister of defense of ukraine oleksiy reznikov said that a new batch of long-range weapons received by western countries will help to return the army, crimea and the rest of the territory. well, some people say how andrey viktorovich should relate to these words, do not pay attention, because this is, well, an inadequate statement, but someone says that you need to listen to the threats that there will be a strike on the crimean bridge that new weapons will allow them. eh, organize the very counteroffensive. as far as it is realistic, military operations are carried out with success when the enemy is assessed correctly and realistically. so i’m not at all going to armament, which is supplied by the west of ukraine; there is not a single nomenclature that would be able to hit the pokrovsky bridge, in principle, does not exist. and it’s just not, how do they hit the low-racial ones, they give missiles for 70 km, even

if well, this missile hit the pokrovsky bridge, it’s like drobina, to be honest, in range. well, what will she destroy. it's extremely accurate to hit. they have already said that they will give target designations, intelligence from the satellites of the american owners of the gps blocked there in the area. that is, everything is not as simple as it seems, since they will not be given a rocket for 300 kilometers. and if they give some adequate answer. and even if you are 300 kilometers away, it will fly, it clearly directs satellite navigation satellite navigation to track the guidance, it is possible to suppress it in the area of ​​​​the crimean bridge. everything is practically that’s all, if you go near the kremlin and turn on the navigator very close, it will show that you are in vnukovo about, by the way, the same thing will happen and there it will fly confidently to vnukovo, that is, you don’t need to here, you don’t need to be involved. uh, passengers of the airport, vnukovo will not fly, let's say you can do it. well, that's what happened. that's why then

such statements are not necessary, do not underestimate. well , no need to move, no need to exaggerate the impossibility. and this is purely for the internal public. after all, how can the internal public explain all these there, well, i remember, yes, the evacuation already broke the language to speak on all this. now ukraine i may repeat myself, i ask my colleagues, excuse me, but i ’ll explain for about three minutes . they gave the czech republic there, in my opinion, two poles are your americans, if there are three sevens, there are four reactive installations, then the americans. the british will try to give there. uh, three germans. that's all, here is the theory of centric troops, that is, reconnaissance equipment. space there was hoki, aviation the operational tactical ventura military

one gives all the information in real time in a single informational mode, and for example, i am a battery commander. i have these six guns. i can see everything on my tablet since someone appeared there. i am fire. they test all weapons within a single information space. moreover, nato is fully working, saying what it means to give intelligence yes, intelligence, the main thing in a war, as it were, yes. yes, these are the goals that need to be hit. now this is all happening. why are they helping ukraine? i beg you, they have already written off to ukraine. written off, they understand that sooner or later. we will still go there and prepare. yes, they are now predicting a war in europe because, well, let's try to understand, they can. they give us e. render her weapons to organize how she works the system. they are studying. what kind of defeat they inflict, they study, how we inflict defeat on them and take out a stone

with each battery, there is a nato instructor who writes all this after that instructions guidance documents and so on and so forth. how to fight the russians. now the war with the russians is rolling in. it was the same here by the papuans before the papuans. let's tell the truth, which they didn't have only in the artillery they didn't have, they didn't have anything special . and here everything is. and now it's running in, because, well, my friends. let's tell the truth, after all, you're only looking at ukraine well, ukraine is all this will not end, because for now, after all, the president, what he was talking about. here what he said, very much the president remembers nato at the border in the ninety-seventh year. i'm not wrong. no, i'm not mistaken. and until we achieve this, nothing will stop. this is what we should strive for. here is such a tactical one important point. uh, always. the west gives aid and supplies weapons. only if there are victories on the informational background, so that the informational background against the background of deliveries

is appropriate for ukraine. catastrophically, it’s not just that there are no victories for them. well, no, what are they doing? they live on credit. this is the promised help. byte. let's not forget. uh, this 1 billion is needed for what, in order to finance the declining system of public administration on credit, by the way, and what reznikov does is a promise on credit. if you give us, we have no victories now, but if you give us weapons, then we will conquer with these weapons, crimea is the second very important point. they are constantly here with these absolutely stupid statements, yes, which really look funny. they are trying to interrupt the information background inside, which they did recently. uh means head uh party servant of the people in the verkhovna rada arakhamiya during his visit to the united states of america, he went even further. he said that 1,000 people a day in ukraine, that is, ukrainian army soldiers, are either killed or injured there scandal. why because this informational yes, and

that's why it is at this moment that the most daring, the most deceitful ideas are thrown in, the third moment is very important about how we will stop the donbass at the st. petersburg international economic forum pushilin speaks, he signs, and all kinds of agreements with representatives, including russian regions. we will restore donbass with the whole world, for example, there, the moscow region, two districts on our own school road, and so on , it is important to say that every ruble invested in the house will especially return stories, because this is the most precious land for which and she is always very hard-working people there and most importantly, these are our people, but there are also not our people there, unfortunately, the russian military captured for the first time in this whole company of two us citizens who took part in the hostilities in ukraine, here are their photographs of their, uh, faces, if you allow me to call them that, the

telegraph reports with reference to sources and let's listen to how they reacted to this. hey rep . well the white house reacted let's hear it. i cannot confirm these reports, but have been informed of them we will do whatever is necessary to follow up on this we urge americans not to go to ukraine and not participate in hostilities. this is a war zone actions. if there is an irresistible desire to help ukraine, it is worth remembering safer support options, and no less effective. ukraine is not the place where the americans should go, it is potential. people who will be executed no, i think these are the first two americans that they decided to actually show. for some reason, i don’t have the slightest doubt that, well, somewhere like this in the conditional casemates of lubyanka, a certain number of them are sitting, but they are waiting, there they are negotiating the decisions of their fate. and this yes. this is part of the informational background

that all the parties involved create there. but since the americans have lost a very low pain threshold, this is a well-known fact. that is, when they lost during the withdrawal from afghanistan. how many are there 10 or 15 marines? it was the national ukrainians. they say that not a day a thousand people lose and nothing, in general, everyone is cheerful and hung. and it's not just losses. there are two americans here, two real white people. although one such not quite, white were captured. that is it the heaviest one. well, a psycho is an emotional trauma, that is, here, but an american myth, it has been built on exclusivity for decades. well, yes , in such flights. within the framework of we are for democracy for freedom, we are all together, but nevertheless the american - this is something exceptional, this is an absolute shrine. and here, two representatives of the greatest nation on earth are captured. well, they are worse for the papuans than the russian papuans are worse for the russians, that is, and now what do we do with this, that is, they need to be saved somehow. and how to save

vladimir has an understanding, how will they be saved with understanding? it seems to me that this is a request from russia that we also have an exchange fund in russia. and if they want to fight, then they are ready to fight, uh, with nato, and if they are ready to change, then change, and if they are all the rest, for all this public on the basis of a lousy one. eh, sheep at least wool. uh, clock at least, and if it succeeds, it will already be important, but i would like to remind you that they are really testing their weapons, because they are preparing for a war with nato julian smith here. with russia russia nato julian smith post before, the usa under nato has actually disvoiced the fundamental act of the ninety-seventh year, the act that russia is trying to return, and they said there is no this act, dispelling it violated itself by its behavior or the court. and should they be exchanged? everything is correct.

i would not have become so right, it seems to me that here is some kind of unambiguous answer. at the moment we cannot receive it, but nevertheless we will adhere to the position of humanity, here too. in this case, from our side there is how we we are conducting this military special operation. can i ask about humanity, humanity - how is it? are we to execute them? we'll do it with less damage, or, uh, put up enough urgent news, urgent news, mayor. donetsk said the shelling of the city center is humane arrival recorded. not a central department store. unfortunately, there is a victim and we are in direct contact now. alexander voskoboynikov from donetsk hello alexander. well, these are regular shellings and we have another new one for the first time showing two prisoners of war, uh, us citizens, and here we are we philosophize. eh, what to do, but how do the people of donetsk

think? let me tell you that look what the situation was right in zmz - this is the entrance from the side of the city center. this is the central part of the city. at the same time, all morning, the kirovsky district and the budyonnovsky district there are victims every day in donetsk , i emphasize everyone, if someone is injured, this is how many children have died, a lot of children have died recently, a lot of people have died, now it will be just a genocide of the population. donetsk, and not just about any nationality there, no binding anywhere without reference to nationality, but simply to all those who live, yes, nevsky towns, it’s easy to kill them. what am i talking about, you know, people are in a bit of a state of shock. there was no such shelling for 14 years. and here i can tell you something that many people do not want to tell you, probably, they are somehow embarrassed. and i will say you need to make a critical decision. because if this continues further in donetsk will be. well, at the end of the operation, there will be few people left, i will say this, you understand, because you you are waiting for a non-political military decision, so that what you need to deal with those groups that are near donetsk because what

they are doing is what happened on monday the 13th in the entire history of this war. i never went out. nothing like this from donetsk. i did not see. it was like artillery preparation, as it will be this year, this has never happened before, it was not like that on monday. seriously, it never happened to you that there was a city on monday, what is the explanation for this, according to my information, the british gave a command to the cocaine dwarf, so that he gives the command to his beast to shell the city and so that the situation swings. the main task is, yes, of course, for russia to transfer its troops from northern donetsk from other places to donbas well, yes, no closer, but i think many here say that no troops need to be transferred, you can just lie a little to another, as it seems to people, because understand perish. children are dying women people. being afraid to go outside just like that is a very serious situation, and today the first natures were 4 hour of the morning. uh, that's why the hostel on nu is the proletarsky district, and then my friends from the kirovsky district called me. they just said goodbye to me, because it was shelling right next to them. the houses are on fire there. people in the shock of the hail can't understand, i mean, they just tear the city to

pieces and there is not a single place left in the mountain that would be, well, safe, you know, they show that they will kill. and this is genocide. it's not just there you know how the arrivals of this missed. this is a planned genocide of the population you remember donbass for 14 years. on all tv channels of the ukrainian colony, only one thing was said by the nationalists. such, as a rule, korchin, honored terrorists of the ukrainian colony. he said we should do everything possible so that people could not live in the donbass. they don't run away. you can see what their tv channels are showing live now. daily, how they mock russia's double slaps, how they humiliate what they say, we must make sure that everyone runs away in a few, because the entire ukrainian mission will live there only ukrainians, because they say it is to kill everyone there, we them them - ukraine 24, so you understand the tv channels, we are not dealing with the army, the army of the russian federation, you are not against the army, no, what are you talking about, they will come out against terrorists, who will notice that here is to ask any russian soldier what is most striking. he says we're hitting them. they

don't hit us. they will be civilian. look, what is here in donetsk, what is it i am here in donetsk what is going on, that is, they are systematically destroy only the civilian population, it is problematic for them to destroy the military, because this requires skill. they have this skill. not from the word at all. and therefore they throw every shell at donetsk, and every shell that arrives is well, almost 100% hit , some kind of life. uh, purl life or some kind of building. you yourself see this happens every day 24 hours alexander, this is not the first time we have been talking, but, honestly, i will say. for the first time i see, you have such emotions, it is clear that the condition is serious. hmm i explained to me some calls people. i, i, i had a program on monday on the tv channel. so we conducted this program for examination in the city center, you know, and when i go out into the street, or people write to me, they write to me . eh, donetsk people. they tell me, tell me. well, tell me, i say, well, what can i say? well, tell me on tv. well, tell me there, you happen to be on these russian tv channels. come on, tell them. also no more. i'm telling you, what people say, understand, the fourth month of the operation, everyone dies. people every day e remember what happened on day 11

june on the day of russia was the arrival. uh, one of the green plaques killed a fifty-year-old man. he had four children left, and his wife, who was next to him, had her arm torn off. you see, it was the eleventh of may, june 19th. here they are simply. well, for such a degree they scoff at the donchars for something like that. i just haven't seen what they do with a throat. this is generally a separate conversation. you see, this is why the situation needs to be critically changed here, because people well, people in the name, people really called you alexander, they asked what happens to be told to the audience. we gave you the opportunity to say this, we thank you all for your words , patience, but an emotional statement. i'm sure i know for sure that our military. i have this information and i know for sure that there is a plan on how to resolve this issue and i would like to believe that it will be resolved in the near future. good afternoon, the

information channel continues its work on the air, the program time to remember, my name is alexander gordon or not my name or not alexander i just start to really go crazy, because i lived 58 years. i didn’t know that neil armstrong turns out to be a big crest, because otherwise i can understand the logic of the kiev authorities who want to rename yuri gagarin street into neil armstrong street. i can’t, at least, because if he’s not a crest, then why gagarin probably also no, but ukraine, as part of the soviet union, took an active part in space exploration. that is, it must be their hero too. i’m gagarin well, they won’t stop there, a vote has been announced and the proposal there is such, for example. vatutina street can be renamed forest

brothers street into territorial defense street, lermontov street, taras street three forces, this is an etsman, an opponent of the commonwealth, who remembers him, but now lermontov will also be sure to please him. well, lermontov, well, really, well, he didn’t do anything like that. that's how it's turning everything on its head, this part, as peter tolstoy says, uh part of the carnival political culture, which in my opinion. at first the operation it should have gone already somewhere in the background, but no, of course, amplified. here they even offer to give zelensky the title of hetman. and his assistant, also an artist , alexei arrestovich, the title of koshevogo ataman, but probably deserved it, i don’t know. seriously speaking, today we have three historical figures that we must discuss with you and all

three. in varying degrees, traitors and all three heroes of ukraine let's see the plot. he became a symbol of struggle during his lifetime and after his death remains a guide for thousands of ukrainians stepan bandera, organizer of the ukrainian armed forces the head of the ukrainian people's republic is a hero. symon petliura maze corrected ukraine for 22 years and became an idol and an example for future generations to make heroes out of traitors in ukraine has become a tradition. the main thing is that this traitor should be out of favor with russia, and then it doesn’t matter anymore. how many inhabitants of the most independent. he killed or dispossessed his patriotism courage is not questioned the logic of historical facts and eyewitness accounts, no one is interested in the vivid example of ivan mazepa in 1687 mazepa was elected hetman of the left bank

in ukraine, mazepa served peter the great for a long time, was his close associate, was honored to become the second holder of the order of st. andrew the first-called in history, the highest awards of the russian empire, however, during the russian swedish war, mazepa showed that peter would be defeated. and that means there is nothing to stay on the side of the losers in 1708 , when the northern war approached the seemingly catastrophic frontier for the russian side, mazepa openly went over to the swedes. after this betrayal. peter set out in return of the order of andrew the first-called from mazepa to award him with another shameful insignia, so especially for mazepa in russia the order of judas appeared . today, ukrainian propaganda presents mazepa as a patriot and fighter for independence. mazepa was to unite ukraine, to do everything so that ukraine would not

depend on moscow or anyone else, but this conclusion is denied by the ukrainians themselves. even the nationalist alexander is dumbfounded. he admitted that mazepa did not fight for ukrainian independence, but surrendered ukraine to poland on the basis of an agreement between mazeta and stanislav leshchinsky. ukraine was to be united with poland as the grand duchy. this served as a foundation for russian government circles, starting with the manifestos of peter i to the ukrainian people in the autumn of 1708. to accuse mazepa that his intention was to bend little russia away from the russian state and such to bring another polish hero, an independent simo man , under the unified state examination so much for the slander that the jury acquitted and left unpunished his killer, it was petlyura with his troops who were the first in the history of ukraine to organize mass jewish murders for the sake of building a clean ukraine

. according to shengman's witness, the cossacks killed his younger brother on the street near the house, and then broke into the house and split his mother's skull. other family members hid under the beds, but when he was small, the brother saw the death of his mother, he crawled out from under the bed and began to kiss her corpse, the cossacks, they began to chop the child, then the old man, the father could not stand it and also got out from under the bed and one of the cossacks killed him with two shots. then they approached the beds and began to stab those who were lying. under them, one schoolgirl, they stuck a bayonet between their legs, and they shot them so they shoot and look, so as not to get fatal. how about yes? a volley and a race run to the still alive shot and grab from their clothes what before the volley each one outlined on his victim according to the most modest estimated victims of jewish pogroms. in ukraine , in 1918-1920, about 50,000 people became orphans, about 300,000 children remained. the next

nationalist traitor concurrently the hero of ukraine stepan bandera in 1939, he was recruited by the nazis. as an informer and in every possible way helped the nazi regime in the fight against the ussr in april 1941. in krakow , a congress was held at which bandera-led oum officially proclaimed a course of cooperation with the third reich, as well as the extermination of jews poles and russians in the village of mikhalkov bandera. seven local residents were killed. moreover, the secretary of the village council, the girl was executed before this by cutting off her nose , lips, and chest on the night of september 19-20. in the village of lubochek, the soldiers of the 167th division, privates kozin and kotenkin, were captured by bandera, the captured were subjected to painful torture. bandits at the red army. kozin's left ear was torn off, his eyes were gouged out with an ax, his jaw and neck were cut, his legs were burned, and his hands

were burned with fire, in the skoropets region. a gang of up to 150 people attacked the village on january 30 ust-green as a result of an attack by a gang, 23 people of the polish population were killed. here, the gang captured the detective of the nkvd lieutenant, whom nesterenko subjected to brutal torture and tortured, twisted his arms and legs and cut his stomach in 2018. the verkhovna rada of ukraine decided to celebrate the 110th birthday of stepan bandera at the state level with solemn events, special lessons in schools , television programs and an exhibition in ukraine, hundreds of streets of monuments appeared in honor of the new folk heroes, and the common noun is loopy or bandera has turned from name-calling into praise. photos until simon petlyura entered ukrainian politics, the word mazepinets was a common name for everyone. who set the goal of an independent

ukraine in the last century, such honorary titles as petliurists and banderaists appeared. well, at least i didn’t shout slava bondera and slava petliuri. now the notorious villains , criminals, traitors, would cry already on this occasion. heroes of ukraine when they shout glory to ukraine heroes of glory now i understand about what heroes are you talking about just now understood? no, i thought they were about those heroes who died on the maidan, about the heavenly hundred, about those heroes who are now weapons in their hands. fight against mordor. that is, it turns out that they chose us for themselves in history, after all, in this rich history, yes, three heroes, where there is nowhere to leave stigmas simply on each of them and simply idolize them. why do you know? to me? it seems that the main reason is this, if

calmly philosophical. statehood lies in the following and not developed, its own positive program and national law. why nothing? yes, it means that the state is being built from the contrary. as anti- russia, they cannot do anything positive of their own , by the way. she provided in her book, which in 2002 directly begins the chapter that, having become independent, ukraine will become rival. at best, until now, national thought and energy is working to find even anthropological differences between russian and ukrainian. e it is proved that ukraine has always had some special, political, moral cultural even linguistic inclinations, and therefore, any doubtful ones are naturally selected from the whole history. but

i'm speaking so softly. and even criminal disgusting personality. uh, but uh, according to the criterion, they hmm were somehow hostile to russia, what can i say about mazepai, let's talk? what did i think, then we have eh? in the late nineties and early 2000s , there was also such a tendency, a political tendency to live without reflecting. here the stones of history fly us we either turn away from them or give an answer. yes, that is, we did not reflect so much that when you ask some person who is in power a question. what is our idea? where are we going, there was no wording. we have passed this stage. and it turns out they haven't started yet. they don't reflect everything. eh, you see, it’s not surprising that the second largest country in europe, the most industrially scientifically developed republic of the soviet union, does not seem to come out

of the diapers of national childhood. this also speaks of inferiority complex, and some of this one. well , if you want, backwardness, because well, why self-sufficient internal? the nation is to engage in building from the nasty mazepa, by the way, nothing, the hetman who did not distinguish himself, according to statistics, is a very large impoverishment. he robbed his own people very much at a time when nothing went to the moscow treasury. this is only after catherine a little bit. taxes have gone further. was a letter found that at the same time from the service of peter he was paying double tribute, dan to the turkish sultan just in case, then there is this one, this one, you see, some kind of fraerskaya. this is such a factor, which means the essence, that's the e of ukrainian politics. that's when mazepa appeared, by the way, anathematized out of sixteen bishops, 15 were little dews, and reported,

and his betrayal was an outraged little russian. there is a spark colonel on wikipedia, you can read petlyura he was not even so much anti-russian, but it was an anti-semite. my father who e, an orphan, er during the civil war, we were already 12 years old. he says that in their house in the attic constantly hiding, then the jews from the petliurists, then the whites from the reds, then the reds from the whites well, the jews from the petliurists. i remembered it, but it wasn't petliura 's fault that they were walking there. there were their own figures who give, and they entered the courtyard and asked the jews to mine, ukrainians are normal ukrainians. they said it was our living ones, so don't touch it. get out of here and it was, yes. well, i agree with the main question. ca n't ukraine really find more worthy heroes for itself, but they do exist, why isn't this the outline

of the forest? ukrainian? why not? of course it's creepy millsky also created the ukrainian data, but this is a bad example, because, uh, behind him, too, is the most terrible, that is, not the best, uh, figures, but there are germans who are preferably not involved in pogroms and genocides, and at worst there is also vyacheslav koftan, a political scientist, if there are no others, uh, well, i think if lenin is khrushchev and yes, by the way, about yes, about the glorification of criminals. a you see what's the matter, that a i don't know how you personally feel about it, but he is a positive figure. this is not this is not the one glorification of criminals ukrainian state,

personally, i do not see the difference between, uh, petliura in their atrocities. between loops. unless i'm sure he killed borscht. let's look like this. i say again, we all understand that it is impossible to remain clean in history, especially. if you are trying to make this story, but you are absolutely right, you should be more grateful to lenin than at least for the fact that he created this state, not ukrainian. he has a notic people alexander. i'm just saying that you are constantly in this studios. we always find fault with the fact that this is a street named after pylori or bandera and in russia there is a drop in the city in every village there is a lenin street there is a monument to lena lord, his corpse lies on red square. and you get out to ukraine it seems to me that it would be better to get rid of your villains. first, then find fault with

ukraine, you know again. i will repeat what i said that history is not made with clean hands. it 's completely understandable, but when you make a story to confront someone and kill just because that these people are your enemies on a national basis on a religious basis. this is one thing, when you really make great sacrifices, create a huge number of difficulties, but at the same time you create a state that then existed for more than 70 years and then split into a state that did not exist what tajikistan is please tell me ukraine where was ukraine without the soviet union where yes nowhere or no? bohdan khmelnitsky is tiny. uh, so to speak, from the eastern center of ukraine without kiev between yes, but she though she had a point of view. ukraine has made you

big. well, a few actually, but what we are talking about is a big political mistake. they had to start their history of an independent state, well, from 91. in the extreme case, somewhere in the middle of the 80s, but not from kievan rus and not from the ancients, because everything else looks somehow not a very convincing attempt. uh, to compete, let's say, with moscow for the primacy of kievan rus , maybe it makes some sense, but obviously not propagandistic and not historical for everyone. here the fact that the ukrainian nation and the ukrainian state , in their attempts to become, has always resisted three forces, and here it has always tried to get rid of the muscovites, the jews. and polyakov but this is an

objective fact, and just now i was listening and thinking that everything could sound the same. uh, in the event that we were standing in a studio in warsaw, the poles could say exactly the same thing about the story with the registers and registers of the cossacks and about treason, and so on and so forth. yes, now in poland he behaves like this, duda said here the other day. we are it already discussed, as if there is no nazism in ukraine now. we understand that this is another political game. yes, but also not possible. no, well, duda understands perfectly well that there is a certain political alignment. and here he is pursuing a policy in accordance with this alignment, it is impossible to conduct a policy, and in accordance with well, let's say so with what they say at sermons in the krakow church, which is dedicated to the victims of the volyn religion. they all talk and bring flowers and still remember, and all this happens, but e the point is that the poles in this

case are guided by a specific situation. and that's why i don't see anything like that. now, with regard to lenin, it means lenin e, achieved that the russian empire collapsed as a result of the collapse of this empire, a similarity of the ukrainian state was formed in the form in which it was formed at the line below in the twenty-second year, and there the bolshevik was established. she returned to where she returned to become part of the soviet union, which means that if ukraine began their history, well, relatively speaking, there are a lot of books, my ukraine is not russia, then, probably, then it would all look logical, uh, looking ahead and a little off topic, the second mistake, but there was, of course, anticipatory pressure on the russian language with this had to wait.