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that's all. that's all, and no leningrad literary authorities mattered to us young poets, because we knew that they lived in the city. anna akhmatova i was struck by such an unprepossessing house that rose from the maple at the door. she andreevna led us to her room, and some poor furnishings caught our eye. she is probably behind her and the electrical wiring is, you know, gone. here is a portrait of models, although there are a huge number of her portraits. i will try to convey my own feelings. she seemed to me. although an older woman. yes, it may even be almost old, but beautiful. and the upper lip was somehow smaller, the lower one. that's the hump on the
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nose, but this is not the main thing, no. the voice of such a voice. i never heard until then. it was some kind of special voice, as if created for poetry. this is the only amateur shooting of akhmatova, which was made in the summer of 1958 by her literary secretary, a certain glenn, in the golitsyn house of writers near moscow, we are showing it for the first time. think about what a careless job. this is living listen to the music something and pass off jokingly as your own. and after listening to the forest, a silent man will suck in appearance. while the smoke screen of fog is everywhere to the left,
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i take it to the right, and even without guilt a little about the life of the crafty and all the silence of the night, the famous akhmatov cane was presented to her by this arseny of tarkovsky, with whom they were very friends. it's such a special relationship. it was such a beauty duet, he is an incredible chivalry of delicacy anna andreevna igrunya, and akhmatova's friendship was with him with the writer viktor ardov and his wife nina shefskoy began in the thirty-fourth year. they were neighbors of the mandelstams and lev gumilyov stayed in them. their boys alexei batalov misha and borya were hellish and when they moved to the ordynka. this apartment was her moscow home already after i was expelled
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from the moscow university for my friendship with parsnips. someone told them that she probably would like me not to come. she very often came to moscow spent. there may be even more time in moscow, at least in her easy months than lenin then begins from this time until her death. we met a lot, but i can say that it was one, and with people close to her. i read it in several european languages, uh, and it was wonderfully interesting. uh, the interlocutor she was a friend of nadezhda yakovlevna mandelstam. so some of our meetings were with akhmatova and mandelstam, in particular, in our house on lavrushensky on the eighth floor in the bushkovskaya apartment in our house. even the dog treated uh,
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she stood up on her hind legs right away, and since ancient times, when she came to moscow, she lived with the ardovs and it was a stone's throw from lavrushensky nadezhda wished we had her, she brought her to us. it was very serious and could not be missed. and take her somewhere. in some dubious family , our family was undoubted, and there was a feeling that a miracle had come to andreevna, and that was the pen she was holding on to, but by the way, it was there that everyone, friends of shklovsky, held on to it. and as you know, handprints remain forever. nikita was six years old, she said, well, of course, you don’t have time for classes there now, and he suddenly turned to her and said, anna andreevna
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, a woman will always find all the time for you. nadya took my hand, and we went with her obrushinsky past the church of all grieving joys to akhmatova nadymka past the mansion in which there was an orphanage and past the broken dark fences, one turned into a narrow entrance littered with junk, an entrance hallway room in which there was some kind of table and sat on andreevna, but it was the queen, like once i was, when they sent her a little book made on birch bark , in which someone wrote from memory, there are poems in the akhmatova camp, i said that there is something to learn. pushkin in his behavior. namely, that pushkin supported all the young poets, and then
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brodsky appeared as a poet, whom she appreciated, and then he became friends with me and somehow, too, uh, it was intertwined. uh, with akhmatova from her friendship with a small circle of young leningrad poets there were three friends there. all of them studied at the technological university itself. uh, then simon dima bobyshev and zhenya rhine, they were not only friends with students, but also poets, then axis met them, brodsky was obvious to her. it was very important. these are four young talented people, except for, uh, joseph, who was then still, as he himself said. e did not present himself very well. who is and who is akhmatova and i wasn’t sure at all that she lived, uh, of course, these three of them. uh, very well-read uh in a poetic sense, folks. uh, knew who
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they were dealing with. anatoly naiman was the first to appear on the shaggy red cavalry, soon he will become her literary secretary and close friend until the end of her life in may 1961 evgeny rein came to her, she was preparing to move to another apartment. she asked me to help pack the library, and he brought dmitry bobyshev. and in august, the sixty-first rhine brought brodsky to her booth. this photo was taken at the time of his acquaintance. with akhmatova well , a booth is akhmatova's word and very much in her spirit. this is the house where akhmatova spent the last years of her life during the summer. neither her house, he belonged to the literary fund, that is, the union of writers. we are here they came with naiman, if they bought it in the evening, a bottle of vodka, akhmatova drank very beautifully.
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she somehow throws a small glass of her head into her beautiful one. here i am somehow overturning myself. nyman speaks for the happiness of seeing you. she speaks for my young friends at this event, when it was necessary to walk anna andreevna in komarova, she invented so many things for herself just not to go out. if only not to go down the steps glad, but as soon as she appeared in nature. he nature ran towards her so on this plot. she was picking mushrooms, she was a stick and pointed out, take it no one ever picked mushrooms except me , because they weren’t there, and when i didn’t have direct land, damn it, the boys built a bench on the lake streets so that she could sit down and talk, were carried out on the veranda, when the eagle did not walk around the radiance - this is an absolutely amazing attitude of them to each other between them for 50 years. there, fate led to the fact that they suddenly
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interbred in this life and turned out to be necessary and peers to each other josim photographed her here remarkable photographs of anna andreevna akhmatova taken by him. there in the mosquito. joseph took a photo of the table. anna andreevna there is a window with this holey curtain, and this window looked out onto the street, and she could see those who were coming towards her, and she, uh, always made her hand a or yes or stop so komarova became the center of akhmatova's attraction , young informal poets were drawn there , writers, directors, and her old friends. there is a special intellectual circle that accompanied her all her life in winter, she often lives. creativity of writers komarova is always in the same room, which was kept for her by the tramp queens. as her friends called her, we went to her, because she set our souls in motion, she would say, then brodsky's little book
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came out in new york. i opened the photo book. she is sitting in a white knitted scarf next to the trees, and she says to me, well, you will see them. i like it very much. here i am, how i can fit, here are birch trees. now the cows are coming. they will say to the mind of russia she was witty, she was wonderful smart from such komarovsky booth things, well, first of all, days birth. falling out on the white nights, moscow always comes to the house of creativity and always at a birthday party. at anna andreevna's they gather and always burn bonfires. when anya andreevna turned 75 at
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lavein's anniversary birthday, ranevskaya had a lot of wonderful people. i was there first thing in the morning. who came to congratulate anna andreevna were alexander prokofiev, the poet, head of the union of leningrad writers, and his replacement was mikhail dudinn. they came of incredible beauty and not the coverage of a bouquet of peonies. every time we go to procops walked past the dacha, and i strove to steal at least one pioneer, so, here, he brought everything tied up. well, it’s joseph, the links in the norinsky trench started this very thing, didn’t say no, but unfolded it. and here i am sitting somewhere on a stool. anna andreevna sits absolutely motionless. and these two people stand in front of her and say the address of some kind she does not say a word. and they carried these flowers. she told me
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, era, if possible, some bucket for these flowers. i represent a bucket of water. and this was a luxury. here they just left. she adrian to throw in the trash. akhmatova has the opportunity to see each other more often, what is what, which she knows from a young age. here he has a dacha, and in the summer he comes here from moscow with a born pet. he misses the bay, his leningrad friends, the komarovo air, he is the first in music. she was the first on the train, both knew the great glory and the bitterness of humiliation were trampled on by the authorities and retained their dignity. it is to him that she will write to dmitri dmitrievich shostakovich in whose era? i live on earth sometimes the akuma asked me ride a bike to shostakovich's dacha and find out whether he
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came to shostakovich or not? i escorted okuma to shostakovich. we set off from the booth. i remember the road very well. these are sunny komarov pines, when we approached the dacha, he went down the stairs, kissed her hand, offered her, and lean on his hand and uh, helped climb these two-terrim steps leading to the veranda, and then to the dining room, where akuma took it out of her purse in mine without a hero and read new pieces to him. for him, the sound of the poem, its musicality was in tune with his inner musical mood. in the autumn of the sixty-first year, akhmatova moved from the red cavalry to lenin street, which in her circle they continued to call the pre-revolutionary name shirokaya , here they
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were given a separate apartment to the newly built writer's house with irina punina and anya kaminskaya. it will be the last apartment of anna akhmatova. the apartment essentially lived in two rooms, here in this room, in which we are now , and the second room in the back behind the door, on which you can see the dragon, and in this room andreevna received guests. when she came not to anton alshevskaya, she stayed here in this room. there was a large dining table, uh, that extends lengthwise. here. here is a huge mirror that she got from this olga afanasievenko, when yes, in the twenty-fourth year, she left for france, this room overlooked the windows . yes, parallel to the street, lenina, and poplars grew here. and when we moved in, then about whom
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she said that this room is very reminiscent of a fountain. she panicked coming out of made the calmest person the most balanced person. she was panicky excited when she had to go to the station, and then it was she who put on not shalov's coat yes, they led her under white hands. she took valerian. she asked all the time there, they didn’t forget. this concerned medicines, because this sciatica was stuffed, firstly, with letters, and secondly, with medicines, as they put me in a car when she left for moscow. this is a scene from ostrovsky, she didn’t have a things bag, when they and the famous suitcase, which she always carried with her, so that god forbid nothing happened. and this suitcase was filled with some of her notebooks. you know, she left behind a huge number of e-notebooks.
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received free service forever tinkoff he is so alone these are akhmatova's notebooks simple notebooks that anya kaminskaya bought and gifts from friends in exquisite bindings. the first is dated fifty-eighth then she led them until the end of their lives. now, when everything is behind us, even old age, and only the decrepitude of death remains. everything becomes painfully clear. people events actions irina tomashevskaya, who worked at the publishing house, presented her with a copy of tom lermontov for recording, where parts of his poems were already typed, but blank pages remained. so the expression arose to write in lermontov in this thousand and one nights she she kept a book of her life, but to see without dizziness, the 90s of the xix century from the height of the mid-20s, it was almost impossible to write down panics
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of steel and general alexander alexandrovich beautiful bows. akhmatova reading poetry was recorded many times on a tape recorder, but there is only one recording of her everyday conversation, she was made in may of the sixty-fifth by her friend ivan rozhansky, without the knowledge of akhmatova, she was even angry, but thanks to him this priceless conversation at the tea table from those who were then in the house of the rozhans today, only sonya bogatyryova remains i remember very well what it looked like. eh, she andreevna was sitting at the head of the table, and the table was long, eh, oval, and ivan dmitrievich was almost so
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obliquely from her, but closer to the door to the office. he got up and left several times. apparently he checked how the recording was going, but we know that akhmatova was a serious pushkinist, a speech about pushkin began and in the middle of these two names akhmatova , who we saw, who spoke. oh pushkin raised this evening to that spiritual height that is remembered for a lifetime, then one good thing is everything it was read in the thirty-seventh year, when there was a big anniversary, then the commission was established to remove the pushkin monument. we have such streets there more than death. she wanted me to read an excerpt from pushkin on tv. children, this passage is oh insightful, but something immeasurable has happened. children playing in
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the park around the monument raised such a roar. what did you have to call the right person and ask what to do? answered. leave them a monument, it can be said with full confidence that a good half of these kids no longer had dads at that difficult time. many mothers. but to protect pushkin they considered their sacred duties in the sixty-fifth year, oxford university awarded akhmatova the title of honorary doctor of philological sciences. this meant international recognition and was important to her. we were traveling together, we got on the train in moscow and drove to brest where the border guards are. uh, kakumiya came with books for her to sign and the akuma
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was completely shocked by this when the belt came to london about whom we met a lot of correspondents photographers our embassy english club pushkin the crowd was and when the godfather saw them all. she said, why didn't i die when there was a small oxford ceremony somewhere it was beautiful and solemn us a large, semicircular shaldon theater. first, the rector of the university spoke, he read latin, then in english, then he gave the floor, and not about drevne and anna andreevna in a robe climbed to the podium from ours there was a very unexpected arkady raikin who at that time was in london and learned about the arrival of anna andreevna he was very well acquainted with anna and came to this ceremony in june, akhmatova returned to moscow on her birthday. as
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it turned out, the last victory was reflected in her every word in every gesture, her friends at the station recalled that lyuba met her with the majority of the word friend from pre-war st. petersburg and after the horde took another akhmatova moscow house to her in sokolniki. so, the fifth floor we have, as i remember now, 110 steps, any pretty andreevna took it and came to sokolniki. and she told me, take a chair. and you will not be refused, she is andreevna on every flight stairs. have her sit down. she drained and rose to my proposals. i did not agree on any floor and not on one span, and so i got up. i'm with an empty birthday chair. anna andreevna is 65
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years old. i went to the preobrazhensky market and bought some. she andreevna is a bouquet of pink red maples. i took the camera. came to a big room. emma grigorievna kern was there and nadezhda yakovlevna andreevna was either in such a company, and when i took anna's photographs, i can see a piece of this table with peonies and see that secret. on the same day david made the last recording of her poems on a tape recorder. 6 love listen. anna andreevna wants to read poetry. i put my rebellion on the table. dnepr village andreevna i sat next to him. she took the book the run of time and the run of time began to read, as if the far hair were the ground, and around no one
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would put anything in this good warm land and do not drive him, do not bad him ah and turn on the brain flooded zoshchenko passed away in july fifty-eight. akhmatova died on march 5, 1966, on the day of stalin's death, which she always celebrated as a holiday all autumn and she spent the winter in the botkin hospital, came to moscow and immediately got there with a heart attack for the fourth in a row and in lermontov wrote down the history of her illness in february, she was released by the cards to ordynka on march 3. they left with nina eshevskaya in
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a sanatorium near moscow, domodedovo, on march 4th. she made the last entry in her diary. on march 4, i visited akum for the last time in domodedovo. oku asked me to bring the bible and ariel's magazine . she was extremely interested in the kumrad manuscripts, which were discovered not so long ago on the next day 5 march at 10:00 am. i left the ardovs' apartment and crossed diagonally to the gate. i met the storm. ardova who was going to her home. he came up to me and said, the old woman died. to be honest, i didn’t even understand who he was talking about, i continued to walk further towards the gate when i realized that i had to decipher this phrase. i say what it means, who died he says, but
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akuma, what don't you understand? of course, it’s not difficult for me to talk about this very moment, because it was like that and i took a taxi and went to domodedovo this is a luxurious holiday home sanatorium. when you enter the big huge sun-drenched lobby? there is immediately such a hanger, this is not a wardrobe with numbers. and here is a free hanger. where do you hang your coat and go to the right room. i went to this room. at that moment, when the orderlies were filming who exactly the body was about, they were shifting the stretcher. on wheels and i
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caught the last breath of akumen air. i don't know it. what was? they took it. her body in a laundry closet and i sat in that closet for hours . sakuma. because as if you were supposed to, and most importantly, it was necessary to hide from everyone living in the sanatorium. that anna andreevna akhmatova died, then
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a special car arrived in which i left for moscow with akuma sklifosovsky morgue the sklifosovsky institute of the former strange, the foster home of the sheremetevs, became her last moscow refuge, as she lived, she lived under their coat of arms, and she lay dead for 3 days from -for march 8, women's holiday, the funeral was postponed on the morning of march 9 in a small hall at the sklifosovsky morgue, moscow said goodbye to akhmatova further a lead coffin chipped with boards was taken by plane to leningrad by many friends. it was almost the entire plane was familiar. i had
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akumen notebooks with me. volodya medvedeva saw us off. this is the artist who designed the last book for the passage of time. about who. i told him that if something happens on the plane, i have my notebooks with me. but we got there safely . is there a newsreel? how are we? unload as we unload from the plane. i filmed an employee. kgb is the same filming of the fifth department of the kgb for combating dissidents, usually operational shooting. after a while, it was destroyed as unnecessary. well, here they even understood its value
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and the film survived. the coffin with the body of akhmatova was brought on a regular flight, so at first the camera captures just passengers, but then those who flew in to say goodbye to akhmatova appear on the ladder, anya kamenskaya comes out, followed by anatoly naiman, followed by nadezhda mandelstam and emma gerstein . going down the ladder, limping arsenii, tarkov lens is aimed at the operator from the aranovich group and who is filming without hiding themselves they are filming with a hidden camera from cars. the plane taxied close to the terminal building and the meeting leningrader was allowed to enter the airfield. some of them recalled, as from the luggage compartment. how a terrible box floated out of the hold and was hoisted onto a truck. from the airport , the kgb operator followed everyone to the nikolsky
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cathedral, recorded the samples of the mother in a vacuum-lever, ran through the crowd, caught brodsky, but he quickly disappeared from them among the people. it was not possible to agree with the authorities on a place for burial. finally got permission for the cemetery in mosquitoes, but i was sure that the grave would be dug in time and since my father gave me his car, then straight from the church and brodsky and i went to komarovo to follow. is everything in order here nikolsky cathedral, lead groups were filmed there, and they were not found in the church. no knife no object to take off normally. uh, they opened it with a concert knife. and that was an ordeal for us, the flow of people, which is just unbelievable churches. there was no place the crush
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was so scary, someone still got me promoted. i don’t know who and i turned out to be a grave, but the coffin stood on the goats and the coffin was moved for years nikolayevich squeaked everyone to shoot, attacked and just broke one camera. the rumor spread around the city in a day and 5,000 people came to st. nicholas cathedral. the film preserved this general bitter confrontation and the unwillingness of the authorities for akhmatova to be seen off by the people of lev gumilyov, who perceived the filming in the temple as blasphemous fuss. they convinced that they were filming for history near the bus with the coffin . hope mandelstam recalled that there were old contemporaries in the crowd, but more than young strangers, a civil memorial service was held in the house of writers, also the former sheremetev mansion, there was a
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push at the door, no one was allowed inside anymore, the coffin was buried in flowers, the largest wreath was from shostakovich, then there were mosquitoes to turn not onto the bridge that in komarova and as soon as the driver turned the bus to the left. there were exclamations into the mouthpiece of the police that they should not move, only to the bridge, and my mother wanted to drive up to the fountain house to dip the coffin stood a minute. and yet akhmatova was brought to the fountain for the last time. then we drove onto lenina street to pick up a wooden cross and brought it the day before and put it in the corridor on the chest of the judge alexei batalov, he then filmed three fat men on lenfilm and ordered a cross on her grave in the fake workshops and
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a funeral cortege stretched. in komarov, taxi driver buses are police cars with friends, and my mother noticed lev gumilyov not idleness, the kgb camera captures her last road past the sestroretsk cemetery, where zoshchenko rested, from now on they would lie for a century next to him in sestroretsk, then they entered komarov from this main alley, then turned around here carrying the coffin in their arms. well, the coffin was standing somewhere around here, surrounded by people on all sides. and i think gender. this is a deer. it was also busy with people. and the pit was dug where now the bench was already getting dark it was very cold official speech from a piece of paper read by sergei mikhalkov piercingly spoke arseniy tarkovsky her graves were those who spent my life next to her friends, there are few of you left. then they had
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to live without her nearby, because he was in a very bad condition. and there, at the wake, he went out onto the porch. i witnessed how he kissed the stairs. he thought that he was alone, and i went for water and a mole to bring medicine. and the one who is appointed cannot help kissing the air trail, i saw this very much from the cemetery. her closest friends went to the booth to mention her. mart was standing there, the booth was not heated and frozen, they wanted to kindle fires, as she loved, well, the fires did not flare up. here he is me
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survive. everything, even the decrepit starling trees and this air, the eternal air, which has made some flight, and the voice of eternity calls the floodiness not from here, and on the blooming cherry radiance we pour the cold moon and it seems so easy whiter. in the thicket of the emerald road, i won’t say where the creatures there are more and more like an alley of a pond. on
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december 25, 2016, on the eve of the new year holidays , a terrible thing happened, a plane of the ministry of defense crashed near sochi, a plane crash claimed the lives of 92 people. the special aircraft flew to syria on a humanitarian mission to congratulate our servicemen, who are there with the new year and pass on the essentials to those who need medicines. to the last, elizaveta glinka's relatives and colleagues were surprised that there was no hope on board, unfortunately they did not come true in the mournful list of elizaveta glinka, the famous doctor liza
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, public figures, the director of the fair aid in russia foundation, so stop it elizaveta glinka or, as she was more often called, dr. liza was the leader charitable foundation, fair care palliative care doctor philanthropist well-known public figure members the board of the faith hospice assistance fund. just a few weeks before the terrible disaster, she was awarded the state prize of the russian federation for her services in the field of human rights and charity. i can’t help but say today about my colleagues doctors killed the day before yesterday in syria medics of donetsk and hundreds of children killed during the shelling of donbass and from thousands of children buried in syria little
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fragile brave kind, she was always where her help was most needed and where no one could give guarantees of safety. she refused ceremonial receptions. for the sake of being somewhere under the bullets among the hungry and the wounded, she put their interests above her own. their life is higher than their own and always came to those who were waiting for it, those for whom it was the last hope. and even now, after her death, these two words of dr. lisa continue to warm hearts. after the tragedy, relatives and colleagues decided that the best memory of elizabeth glinka would be the continuation of her charity fund, fair aid was headed by her colleague journalist ksenia sokolova
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today alone with everyone, dr. liza's husband, attorney gleb glinka, and her friend, head of the fund fair aid ksenia sokolova good afternoon, ksenia thank you very much for coming to our program today to talk about dr. liza. i am in the fund, which she left us all. i would say so, you know, i was once amazed in my childhood when i saw how a military funeral takes place. and shocked me. well, such a detail that after this sad event occurs, the orchestra always plays the military march, and i hmm better a small child does not understand there asked her dad. why is this happening there i was looking for, because this is the affirmation that life goes on. it 's sad, but life goes on. it seems to me that the presence of the fund, fair assistance and the continuation of his life in a sense, this is such a military march, such a metaphor for continuation. mm, dr. liza
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ksyusha, you took, so to speak, the place of ah elizaveta petrovna, as i understand it, uh, at some point they said that this is a temporary situation, do you still relate to what is it so to speak? you temporarily assumed these responsibilities or intentionally continue to do so for a long time. well , uh, this case is characterized by the phrase no, nothing is more permanent than time. it 's literal. so it just became clear that ah, really came. i'm in order to help the fund survive and live for some transitional period, but it turned out that we just need a person who will be responsible for everything. and somehow everyone gave me to understand that there are simply no other options. and what if i take it on then well, for some long enough time on me library responsibility. i know that you hmm were
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among those people who insisted that ksyusha continue, and the work, and liza, why was it so important for you that it was she who took on this work, well, several reasons, but first of all i want to note that e ksyusha decided to stay. this, of course, is all in the order of things, because it was natural for elizabeth to recruit people for kindness in this way. uh, and she fell for this hook, but more seriously, and the translators they were very close, and hmm, the second moment here is that xenia, uh, condoned with her in a very difficult moment in her life, when, e, the internet began to appear, well, unthinkable nasty things. they are. well, in my opinion. it’s just some kind of devilry, and it’s just that ksenia fell in love with her with words with her pen with her pen
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, and uh, and was to some extent even uh, handed her over to this, uh, is very interested in having someone else. it was very strong, but for her it was just that she was crying. i heard that petrovna even, in a certain sense, entrusted you with the fund, that there was some kind of conversation between you that if you have to do it. it’s not like that, there was no such conversation, and somehow i never imagined that, well, let’s say, she would die before me. that is, for some reason i had the feeling that here she is and will be and should be here the second person who plays a rather important role in the fund. and it is obyalovo and as before. they were talking, what she was doing she was doing continued doing the program and uh, talked about it shortly before her death touch, you know um. hmm how to say
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some stories of elizaveta petrovna, the history of your acquaintance and how, in fact, as a result, she became what people who heard the combination doctor became. lisa many learned what she does. many thought that she was not married, because imagine what would be a woman who is here, who always has a phone available, which is round. he is engaged there in helping the homeless, and, so to speak, the most unfortunate people, on whom society has already given up . well, of course, she did not have a personal life. it is clear that it is invested, so to speak, all as much as possible. in her e work, how did she manage to combine such vigorous activity such an incredible help, perhaps to various people and at the same time be the mother’s wife on vacation every year, e on weekends by the way, she is the only case when she didn’t spend the weekend at home together or where something on the spot. this was the
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last time she went to syria. almost no one knew that she was flying. yes, i remember that it was a long time to find out. could she be yes, yes, fly this plane. well, is it possible to say that her activity, so to speak, was not a perfect mate and perfect. that's how i said it, but she really is. you know, sometimes it's even difficult for me, because these are two different layers. that is, it is public or advice, which, well, i know, i thought in the basement, then they then it is purely private. uh, so 30 years sideways, while i really was like that, yes, and the mistress of the house and sometimes taking care of summer cottages, please, well, russian, dad, she loved to dig the ground and love to grow things cook e kids with kids spend time. you
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met in the mid-eighties and met at an exhibition. as petrovna said or for this yes , it was so interesting that yes. so, well, as far as i understand, you pretty quickly decided , so to speak, to be together. that's what you have here is very intimate. yes, in this uh, well, a week we we already knew that we have been sewing together the intuitions of your couple all our lives. you understand what to explain, you did not grow up in russia although russians a and e, you had such an idea, let's say that you need to marry a russian woman and find this ideal version of elizaveta petrovna, i'll flog, i would be a bachelor by nature. i was sure never for it is very difficult. i am a bookish man, i am a man of my desk. you are as a result, because the work was
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connected with america. as i understand it, you have moved, it is impossible there. it was petrovna who gave birth to her first son there, which made you tell her to go. here's a sorry holiday. it's ok. well, as i understand it. it was your initiative to suggest to her that there's a hospice out there near your house, and that she should go. your attention there, although you could put your wife at home. well, for the first time. we want to naturally stay. that is, i wanted to stay since childhood and until and i should have looked at me and said that you are crazy. you won't survive here, but it was you know it, yes. uh, and i because we hmm went to the states, uh, and there i had such anxiety, because she is really very very talented doctors. this is not an accused part of her hmm essence, but hmm to help such
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way and fortunately. eh, mice are not far from us in very remote places, but not far from us, for god's sake, i thought you might like it, of course, she immediately got off like that, and this one liked it so much. well , because at that time. for example, she participated in the foundation, and hmm, of the first moscow cholesar. yes, and she was very close as millionchikov, also quite a heroic personality, uh, it was an ideal combination, because she was just very pleased. this is an opportunity to accompany someone in the end, you can somehow relieve and some kind of joy bring. i it was very important. she successfully combined work and personal life, she was a wonderful mother, a wonderful wife, the only time she didn’t spend the weekend at home together or somewhere together, it was the last time she
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went to syria and many were jealous of appearing, well, unthinkable nasty things about her, then eat. well, in my opinion. it's just some kind of devilry. the main thing for dr. lisa was to ease the agony, the dying one just made her very happy. this is an opportunity to accompany someone in the end you can somehow relieve and some joy or it was very important the right to life dr. lisa i understand that you ended up in moscow as a result because , uh, you got sick. mom always wanted to return and i for a month. well, like russian emigration. it was my environment and she made me laugh. glinka has been sitting on suitcases for 10 years. mm. well, it’s just that you had the opportunity, uh, to work and support your family, it’s all the same, and
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even moving to moscow was following you, following your family. well, she's not exactly mom. she was just getting on the plane to return, she arrived. to visit my mother here, and my mother had, er, a very serious stroke, and she ended up in a coma. uh-huh, and elizabeth took care of her. it is also very typical for elizabeth. mom was in a completely full room in budenko, that is, she was convinced that she responded with a finger, but the doctors say that it is impossible, and she does every morning. in the evening she bought some very expensive meat, which mother loved every morning. she, uh, through some kind of terrible apparatus, very noisy, worked through this meat. well, so that you can feed through the tube and then brought it. this is uh hmm burdenko and fed her twice a day. every day everyone came and
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said. and this will bother her. she doesn’t care, for some time i was tired of every day, but the main thing is here, but she is a doctor, she perfectly understands that she has no sense of taste. and why isn’t it every day in general it’s amazing that petrovna can’t see it. i cannot disagree with me, and i am struck by the fact that petrovna is here with her life , i don’t know everything that she did. e, demonstrated that this brother is all of us we come up with some methodologies for how to exist. how to break through walls, how to organize a business, uh, and so on and so forth, but it turns out that her uh hmm simple actions led in the end, because people accumulated around her, those projects arose, about which she dreamed and thought that this impossible. well, let's say, here is the house of mercy, which arose as a result, yes, when you were there, i don't know, back in 2010. she said, but it probably
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never will, but i still want it to be. can we find out that it happened? yes, that is, and although it cannot be said that she was some kind of genius, so to speak, there, well, managers. yes, she moved, everything is exceptional. i don’t know with my sheep’s authority what you will say to ksyusha about this, how do you say why these circumstances developed around her, although she was not a manager. no, of course, she was not no effective manager, but she was so hmm, so to speak, unusual precisely with this kindness of hers, that she, uh, made a stunning impression on people, moreover absolutely any. that is, those who got to know her closely and who generally had some kind of human resource of their own, in order to perceive this, people simply followed her, because, well, in general, it is difficult to imagine people like her. and when you understand this is in front of you, and in front of you is
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a person. that's really absolutely piercing kindness that you see, it's with your own eyes that you understand what is really a person. and your joy, uh, the joy of other people. eh, pleases more than his own her own. and this so atypical. it's as much as to say. well , not in such ordinary human nature. what 's amazing about that? is it possible to say that this kind of her kindness and such unusualness allowed her to, in a sense, step over obstacles? well, that is, uh call easily someone who has power and say, listen, let's help. you know that firstly, and i must say that it was not easy, because i saw, for example, how she fought for the same mercy house. and uh, don't think you've come. lisa lit up everyone there, it means their extraordinary kindness, and they gave everything away, and some building in the center of the city of moscow was
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absolutely not like that. it's been years. here, and there is just a struggle of persuasion. there, i don't know what, well , that's what you said, she really, she was absolutely convinced that if you are engaged, if you are an official. and you're sitting here to help people, and so i'll call you, even at night, even during the day, and even though i'll tell you what to do with a different voice, you'll do and really. this is her conviction. she in as a result, i broke everything. that is, uh, she left at the peak, that is, uh, further her possibilities would have clearly expanded significantly. that is, she laid this tunnel, and indeed she makes her authority with her charisma, the authority was not in the fact that she knew how to knock with her fist, but in the fact that people simply understood that in front of them a person of exceptional quality quite often observed these reactions to her . that is, at first it is total disbelief. that is, everyone is looking for some kind of benefit. what could be, what could not be, yeah
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where where where is she, that she is being pursued, so where is the button. here further it turns out that nothing benefit. she does not pursue a and further hmm bewildered surprise, a further. yes, she comes towards the person. therefore, we will now listen to irina svirkina, commandants of the house of mercy. i then continue our conversation first with the mushroom with her husband. here, then petrovna met us very sociable, kind, sympathetic, she was always like that at first sight and always was like that, but gleb understood each other so much she treated her like that, but i do it, petrovna always supported her with understanding and support, always, always. that is, i think that she always. here you saw his face as a person who will always help and support. even when she
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was already in a hot spot, she went, yes, and to ukraine , it would seem, what kind of husband would allow his wife to go under the bombing under pain. but he always speaks, because without it she cannot do without it . this is what i always support her. i don't know when i agreed to go to work here. i am said that i probably, i don't like people that much and i guess not. i have so much spiritual kindness and warmth to treat people the way she treated them. she told me that we don't need the people who live here and with whom we communicate, we don't need to love them, we need to help them. it turns out, one without the other
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is impossible. if you help them, you start to love and nothing else, wait. that 's why i don't want to be interviewed. i can't crawl through the throne to speak. well, a really amazing phenomenon is, yes, what she said, you don't need to love, you need to help, and then everything developed by itself. well, here is your first meeting of ksyusha with elizaveta petrovna; by the way, she was such a frequent case between people who become loving spouses or closest friends. first we need each other. some nasty glamorous
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thing just can't be tolerated. and you thought about realizing petrovna that she was such a little hysterical, so it was charity. that is, you were also looking for a catch. you understand, i went with my friend into the basement. and there it is semi-dark, here is some kind of table and people are sitting around it and everyone is watching. so on a this little woman, uh, who is broadcasting something to them, but it looks like this is absolutely a meeting of ade of some kind of sect. yes, i understand everything, yes, a sect, because you had some kind of work. you came there as a journalist. i came with my friend, who was friends with her, and it’s clear to convey to her or i won’t ask for something. i went with him. and then how it happened that they started me there instead of next to her. here she is, looking at me. suddenly takes e a pack of cigarettes terribly smoky, because everyone
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smokes, but i don't smoke, and she gives me like this and like that. i understand that i have to smoke. wow . here's what some kind of here is some kind of exchange going on without words, but with some important gestures i take a cigarette and light it up. that's what i'm talking about with them. so, at first, they successfully passed such a test. yes, well, it seems that elizaveta petrovna passed the test in general, despite the fact that, again, there. we like to think in stereotypes about what a person is. if she is like that, then she means, well, there here is a bad wife and a bad mother there or not married at all. also, uh, there are stereotypes there, that for sure a woman who so means gives herself. e work. well , she probably doesn’t have time to think about herself there, it’s not true, she, uh, loved to dress up and hair and take care of herself, so to speak, but i think that you were still such a
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representative for her, well , absolutely some kind of glamor of such glamor, because you were engaged. a certain kind of journalism i think in a certain way, they held themselves, so to speak, served. it seems to me that this was not close to her, how could she, well, consider you in you for all the uh, tinsel of our outer armor, which we each dress up hmm who in what yes, i had armor . be healthy and in fact, no one could almost see anything there. what is behind them, but she did? it's instant. she had some kind of optics such that it was generally impossible to deceive her. here, that is, here, and she just instantly somehow cut through me. i also saw quite an unusual person. here's, uh, which i just really liked. so i realized that i just want to be friends with her. she never gave up even in a seemingly hopeless situation most of all nonsense. oh joy, she was born like that.
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here is her character god so woolly. she stopped at nothing on her way to her goal. she had an absolute conviction that if you take up the cross, if you are an official, then you are sitting here in order to help people, she was well versed in people. these were healthy, and actually, no one i could hardly see anything there. what is behind them, but she did? it's instant. she had some kind of optics such that it was impossible to deceive her. the right to life, dr. liza ksyusha, i want to ask. and what can we finally say to you? well , it brought me closer and made such friends like this, there was some kind of, say, i don’t know, a click turn, when it became clear that this was the person of my life. well, at some point we just got close enough to her. i mean, that's when we became friends. and, well, we just saw each other sometimes.
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i came there to them something brought something did. here and then uh. well, for me it was probably some of the most interesting one of the most interesting let's say. so, if not the most interesting woman who brought me to meet here simply by her qualities, because really, but absolutely and ease of communication with absolutely everyone. that is, maybe there really is, uh, a homeless person there, who smells terrible there, i don’t know, all in iranians, there is something not in worms, she is calm. uh, smiling, well according to the situation face she will bandage him, calm him down, she will do everything there, she will send him with her own hands. if this homeless man gives him some advice, he begins to smile himself. uh, there's one of her charges from the train station. she said that she was talking about elizaveta petrovna
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. when she arrived at the station, i had a feeling that i finally, uh, came to a normal doctor somewhere in the clinic and it was very valuable for them, because there is absolutely no one with them as with people doesn't talk. and she didn't make any difference. and i really liked it and just you with her communicate. and when you go to someone, you are discussing doing something important to someone, something is up to something and asks for something. always it's nice it's always comfortable a little hooligan with humor and so on. that is, i just enjoyed spending time with her and it was nice to be friends with her. it's very nice to help when i could. that was the case and the person who was really pleased to help. that is, it's not like never was a sense of duty or there, if not, then too, that is, those who were around, it was nice. yes, here this is the russian folk we pull the strap. we mean we help. we refuse everything ourselves,
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she refused nothing. really. she would have had great family relationships there. and, by the way, i told her, well, because there will remain a saint of many nationalities. i say, i don’t know what kind of saint you are. well, you can definitely have a saint that endures everything. and by the way, it seemed to you from the outside that gleb glebovich had to give up, after all . i now like a thing some ears will say, but there is such a rare type of man the husband is called the queen this is the rarest absolutely case when, therefore, she is the queen, here, and the husband, as it were, firstly endures, the royal schedule. secondly, it means a little in the background and so on. and but the main thing is that this degree should be generosity and some kind of indulgence and the ability to forgive the ability er, to make existence comfortable. yes, yes, enough to say so, but the conditions are not easy. here, and here it seems to me that indeed gleb is a rare representative of this rare presenter. here, and me
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i really liked that she doesn’t have this heaviness , there aren’t all of them, which means some kind of clichés like this, uh, manners, like, so we are helping the homeless with flowers and so on absolutely. everything, of course, absolutely everything with a smile, absolutely everything is effective. at the same time, i was completely enthralled by this, and, uh, we were with her. found a common language. but already, when we became, really, well , somehow, well, really, very close , it was. this was the fourteenth year when the campaign against her started there in social networks. yes, in part press. and when i saw how deeply it hurt her, because i had never seen her. it's in such a state. she always held her own in the most difficult conditions and always, on the contrary , consoled everyone, yes, and then i saw that there was
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some one. indeed, like a blade in the back, which hurt this person very much, and i realized that the case when, probably, and i can help her and and i did such a big interview with her one here, and then i just told her, that i'll be yours like that, so until it's all run out. i'm like a press secretary, in fact, here, therefore, all journalists, all who are interested. the belt is in connection, which means the events being discussed, please, all come to me and i will talk to them and calm them down. this is the whole story and as happens often in such situations. uh, as a matter of fact, i had to sacrifice some of my close connections and friends, because they did not understand you, not from me, they directly did not understand at all. let's. now let's listen to elena pogrebichnaya , the director of the documentary film, which, uh,
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filmed the doctor's release and will continue. we met at the time of the agreement on filming, and i was some kind of dc where there was some kind of incomprehensible meeting. uh, we met there. hmm, we even went out for a smoke. well, she went out for a smoke, and i say to throw herself out. she says, well, let's start, and then we'll see, that's all. we started filming and made movies. he generally, it seems to me, you tourists. it was in a good sense of the word. naturally. in general, after the film, we talked often, because hmm, me and my colleagues. we did some shows dr. lisa's support for such big rock concerts where they took part. significant musicians there zemfira time machine, well, and so on uh, and we
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rarely saw each other in recent years, but periodically, because you know the film turned out to be quite prophetic places, because as soon as i personally happened, hopeless situations with someone close to me. it was clear to me that the only one to help me. this is she. when one of my builders was there, a man without russian citizenship, suddenly became from something to die, no one could help and only lisa told me what to do. where to take him with what to deal with? eh, or rather, where should he deal with what is happening to him. hmm, only liza, as it is said in the film, that if suddenly some, if there is a dead end, then you must not call. that's how it was and in all these peak situations in my life. we always talked to her, but she still said what to do. they won't pick up soon. call for parts. she can not take it there, they don’t put it, call there. hmm, these medicines don't help. come on, these
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yes, we were in touch with her, right? lisa is my guide. unfortunately, she died and well, it is very difficult for me to talk about this topic, because for me it is my personal grief that she died very strong. but, nevertheless, she is now and always will be my guide. a person who does his job, no matter what happens, no matter how he is interfered with, no matter how the shells explode, so that no one speaks, she does her job, which she believes in and even if there is no support, she will still do it. and i care what's in my life there is a landmark, i really liked to know that she was somewhere near me, and now i know that she is no longer there, well, the landmark does not remain for me. there is another plast here
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. i don't know how to define in words such a spiritual mystical layer, that is. she well , several of them, including scallops, hint at this. it seems to me, but she somehow managed not even humanly, but to cope with suffering and to alleviate and quickly enough. e such suffering in many different forms. that is, for example, you talked about the funeral of the military, but there at the same time there were funerals and purely ecclesiastical such orthodox me gone when i went for the rude, that people well, just like the 19th century. yes, the people on the right and on the left knelt down. there is also and this one i don't know how else to call it. well , such a mystical layer. you understand me, right? i
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understand. well, i want to explore how i came up with this . why help? well, that's what is called, those from whom, due to very different circumstances. we turn away from disgust and fear, just literally from the social neglect. well, we can name millions of reasons why it was them that the eye turned to? or thrum? well, the step itself was absolutely straight, because she was asked, and knowing that she, uh, here is such a good diagnosis, that she is fucking sick, she was asked to look at some kind of homeless uh-huh fishing line at the station. yes, she took a personal and went there to the filinsky station. look natural ted uh, homeless and see. so she saw that there were hundreds of homeless people, and it was typical for her. what i see is flying, and she, of course, uh. here is what gleb called mysticism. i think
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it’s right to say that he really had a very deeply christian correct idea that these are the outcasts and they need our main concern and they absolutely need to be helped, because this is trampled on and human dignity and it needs to be restored . she didn't articulate it. yes, that's christian dignity. yes, but she was so clear. this concept with all her behavior, that she as a result became with the person who is in this society in this city and in our country. he completely reversed this attitude. and here she is by what she does. this is the fact that she went there, that she fed, kept, treated, she did not not only lead it, but directly came every time with her own hands. she ties and feeds, and with her feet she goes to some main person in the government, knocks and says, let's
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do something for them there, so she did, both . that is, it seemed to pass over the entire spectrum , and as a result, it really changed how she would apply the vector because now we are doing what we are organizing, well, some kind of base for a hospital for the poor, which she really wanted to do and perhaps there will be some. what are the medical institutions for the poor ? now we are trying to understand what exactly is needed and we understand that there is a lot of things for the homeless. and then when she started there was nothing and what it is it is her merit. and yet it was again. here is not some kind of cliché , but a move that look at me. shoot me. i'm here, so homeless, hi she had it absolutely. naturally. even at the moment when she was bandaging or feeding, she was still instructing them. there you again lost your documents there. go there or something and that's it. so you see, go ahead, really, then someone went with them, someone gave her as a mother. and she tried everything. that's how to
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say something to send there, then she had an absolute fix idea. she told me constantly in different forms that you have no idea how prosperous you are at the moment, people are not far away. here from those who are without documents, who are at the station, and so on. you she says, i don’t have any professions there, musicians and artists and doctors and engineers and a journalist. me seriously one, too, i have there. that's it, she kept trying to say that this is the distance that seems unshakable to us, that we are safe in this, in fact there is no cocoon no, because in fact we are, well, so to speak, we understand well, if you think about it seriously, to what extent? our life is, well, convention, everything absolutely everything everything conventions fate unfolds in an instant. there
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's just any case, your life can unfold just in a radically different direction, these reversals. eh, i watched it all the time. she tried her best to warn. many considered her an outstanding person. the most interesting one of the most interesting, let's say, if not the most interesting women i was born to meet, that's just for their qualities. she believed that it was necessary to help the outcasts, indeed, there was a very deeply christian correct idea that these people are rejected by you and need our main concern and they absolutely need help for it, all people were equal constantly stated in different forms that you have no idea how well you are at the moment
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moment people are not far away. from these without documents who is at the station and so on the right to life dr. lisa the appearance of an adopted son in your family, who appeared as a result , too, in general, of the activities that were lisa because his first foster mother passed away and so it turns out that, well, here's the guy, he should have hit again. yes, in fact , the mother, as it was discussed in the family, or it was not discussed or uh. liza brought him and said, here's another way out. no. well, she said that there is such a child to his fate, i immediately understood. said means well, the whole conversation. well i do not know. what else
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can i tell you? well, how could it not be for him, if he really had a terrible fate, god forbid, what can i say a person lies here. eh, it needs to be understood true, you won’t pass by, but you don’t have to be elizabeth so that i can agree with you. although i can say that he certainly, so to speak. uh there, well, here's my mind, yes, he can come up with, uh, variations to look for another foster family for him. well, that is to find some good one. uh, the orphanage is here. uh, so i don’t know there in moscow, in the moscow region, to be patronized and so on, well, don’t take directly to yourself to cut down petrovna’s soul’s movement to another place, somehow i do. yes. i speak better. yes, thank you, although for me something. the power of goodness is absolutely victorious, elizaveta
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petrovna, but nonetheless. i want to find out. here is your view. that is, such a train of thought was not born in you either . if zayat petrovna said that we are taking to ourselves, it means that we are taking to ourselves not so much, because she said that we are taking, because she wrote circumstances in which it seemed to me that how else to act, but difficulties were or everything was smooth enough smooth and ilya is already an adult, and he already has his own children, so we talked with him. let's listen to him. i had a conversation the day before. with mother galya, what if something happens there or will be. call me. tell petrovna here, well, as i, in principle, did lisa's doctor say so, she called saratov with a stranger because, well, i can’t immediately come right at that moment, so to speak. here,
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naturally, they did not help. here and after. funeral the next day here arrived. came, mom, lisa comes home to me for me, we talked with her here. and she asked me if you want do you eat so that i can take you to live with me? here, well, she told there about maybe about children. here, let's say more in detail. what does here's a good man, i would like to, probably, most likely, she always called me. there is a son son. there,
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my child. you can say it. she regularly risked her own life to help those in need with her heart, she gave people , you know, it feels like he was ripped out a piece of his heart. so we do not believe until the last moment the body was not found. and that means an error. maybe it was delayed somewhere, maybe another help for someone. we we can't believe these people. just like that, well, they don't leave. she could not but want to put up with death everything, winning with her love with compassion and humanity. guardian angel, like i don’t know, like
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the dearest person. as a mother, i cannot tell you, she gave everything her love. today, alone with everyone, the husband of the legendary doctor liza, lawyer gleb glinka, and the successor of her business, ksenia sokolova petrovna, has been expanding every year. here, if she started with palliative care continued with uh, with the help of hmm people homeless and already combined these two directions, then here are the hostilities that happened in 2014 , when she got involved in them so actively, it was also something. well, like something new , why did she feel like she should? why did she perceive this object of trouble as her personality? well, because it was the object of trouble. that is, she, as she saw, here is some kind of object of trouble, so
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serious, she is independent of who it is, that it was she who began to help and actually. there she is in donetsk, donetsk region and lugansk region. in my opinion, at that moment she saw simply the most affected, uh, slip children, uh, who themselves have serious diagnoses and children from a baby house, and who are in a situation where not only have they already left, the doctors and around the war, then there are literally falling bombs. right here now and of course, seeing this. she realized that somehow it needs to be stopped and somehow it needs to be helped. at that moment, the situation was such that it was very difficult to do something for them, but she broke through everything and she did it. she became their take out just take. i mean, she found a solution. well, that is, of course, yes, in the middle of the war in e, or, well, this one began, in my opinion, a child, then
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the little ones are just literally little conscientious objectors. and then we have different others. children with oncology. children, straight to the heart and so on. that is, she saw that she could help. it’s impossible there it ’s impossible, therefore, it’s impossible to take it out alone, because they just shoot because it’s boom, because real military operations go on without any discounts at all, but she decided that she would go anyway and through these hostilities she would use this chance to get the children out, and she began to do this, but she began to do this. so the hostilities subsided while she was transporting children. you know, she said this in an interview. here, starting with this first evacuation. e from the baby house, so it tells, huh? it's just unbelievable. it's very hard to believe. what is she even done. she did. she saved those kids. here's the proof. and so
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say they are everywhere. is that how she did it? this is also absolutely fantastic. oh, i mean, uh, they could have shot, uh, and bombed all that ambulance. uh, at any moment, erratic absolutely fire. but she just went through him and took these children out of there in the summer of 2014. yulia kurenkova. i was walking with a friend in a park in the center of gorlovka, young people were about to leave when the first shell fell. a terrible roar of smoke, and now it is falling, the second third at the same time. they keep falling down again you can already hear them clattering on the asphalt, we are already pushing a hot wave at our feet, the only one of those who was in the square during the shelling remained alive, the girl herself was able to get to the nearest hospital and already lost consciousness there. the building was
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destroyed, so the girl’s first operation was performed in the hospital basement, there were not enough medicines and the doctors decided to go to donetsk, the girl called me and said that there was an opportunity to be treated in moscow and that dr. lisa would come to him. we are waiting for her the other day, and she only needs my consent to i said that i was saying, we have no money, we cannot leave. he said, it's completely free. let's wait for lisa a few days later she arrived. liza, she was such a small thin woman with big beautiful eyes. elizaveta glinka always took a direct part in all rescue operations. she took out sick and wounded children from the donbass under bullets so that they could get help in the best hospitals in
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moscow and st. petersburg. and when i went into intensive care, there the children were already being prepared for being sent to hospital. station, and the windows are very large, they were wide open i say. is it possible so? here, she says, it will be better if now from the wave of the explosion the windows can break and the fragments will fly into the children. a terrible diagnosis of a tumor of the brain stem divided the life of the moric family into before and after. in his native donetsk, little maxim could not be helped because of the hostilities in the city there was no unnecessary equipment, no specialists. maxim's mother elena turned to dr. liza for help. so, as always, she did not remain indifferent. us this year we she took us out for treatment. this man was.

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