that's it, will different countries be able to withstand the pressure, such as hungary, say, or someone else? this is a question of the future whether they will be able to or not, but the question is that such an attempt is being made, therefore, some kind of cocky behavior is intensifying, lithuania with its transit and starts arguing even with the european union about whether it is necessary or not, in fact it limit, so it seems to me that now there are no serious prospects in order to talk about the crisis of this confrontational line. actually, of course no. and what happened at the nato summit was absolutely nothing new happened there. after all, even before him, our minister of foreign affairs spoke, who said that russia became opponents a long time ago, of course, she just always was this opponent, even the moment when we kissed in the nineties, hugged and you, this very time they moved further east , just in case, in order to be closer to russia in case of anything and be able to strike at it what the goal of the united states is. line of russia and beyond

by creating more favorable conditions for fighting china, and by doing this, consolidating both allies and partners and trying to restore their global dominance is absolutely free, but, uh, what i would like to note here. this is that the instruments of this policy can change and these instruments can change depending on the costs experienced by the united states itself and its allies, and many say that even now both economic and domestic political and foreign political costs, if they didn’t come close to or even surpassed, but the benefits of continuing this policy, then they almost e came close, yes, and therefore that’s exactly why many in the united states are in favor of correction, and politicians and e, in fact, about about this and segabbard and about this a huge

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important decisions that was made today at the nato summit this is an invitation to the alliance of finland sweden and late last night turkey withdrew its objections, and having received almost everything from stockholm and helsinki, uh, parties adopted a tripartite memorandum, turkey, sweden and finland, and this melandom is completely reflects the turkish demands that were presented at one time to these countries. well, here are excerpts from this memorandum, for example, finland and sweden recognize as terrorist kurdish armed groups in syria, which, by the way, are allies of the united states in syria yes, the so-called ypg and güllenists, and finland, sweden confirms that the kurdistan workers party is a banned organization , and they won't interact with them in any way. ah, finland sweden confirm that there is currently no relationship between them

no national embargs on the supply of arms, but they were, and sweden is changing its regulatory framework for the export of weapons, and to turkey well, another interesting thesis in finland, sweden operational will carefully consider turkey's requests for deportation and extradition of those people who , turkey considers terrorists and already today the turkish ministry of justice demanded that sweden extradite 33 people to finland. yes, in addition, most likely, something will be given from the united states today there was a meeting between biden and erdogan and there have already been declared. and what about the united states is discussing the supply of f-16s to turkey, that is, in fact, the sanctions that have been imposed on turkey may already be completely or partially lifted. and for her disobedience, so to speak, when she acquired the russian s400 systems, ivan alekseevich, it

turns out that turkey proved that even within the framework of nato it is possible to remain an independent center of power, you can ensure respect for yourself and your national interests and pursue independent foreign policy courses. it seems to me that after all, this is a feature of the case, that is, to say, that she proved that it can be done. that is, it is not limited. do you think no, i believe that this is not a precedent. eh, i would say that even this story is not over yet, because after all the status of this document, but still the declaration is not a legally binding document that was approved by parliaments and so on and so forth, legally binding will be ratification of the turkish turkish parliament of transport kola entry into the filia of sweden in nato therefore, if before, they will not extradite now. i think, turkey is not really talking, this story is not yet

finished, especially on tv, how they will distort the multidimensional, because in sweden and finland - this will still cause controversy, there will be complex and political processes and social processes. and probably they will even go outside. there will be disputes in parliament and, most importantly, the legal procedure will be very difficult, extradition appeals, and so on and so forth, so this story is not over yet. and actually, returning to the essence of your question. it's straight changes in the rules within nato there is an independent state. no, this is still such a special case of turkey in very special conditions, because america is first of all, but also everything else means an american satellite. it was very necessary in this case to persuade turkey, therefore, they made concessions, so this is a special

case, which, well, most likely will not have a sequel. once again, even this story is not over yet. i want to say definitely. i remember very well, 2003, when the americans they wanted to invade upwards, they asked, uh, turkey, turkey, a nato member, so that through turkey exactly to the north of iraq, where the kurds, who are allies of the americans, whether yours, turkey, as usual, began to bargain there. and so i remember, we had meetings with turkish diplomats. this is just the charm of the americans. this is the commission on agreement between and so on. and of course, they are very offended by the decision on our these issues. they said what is happening in america, turkey. all newspapers and magazines depict how our president says, how

woman with low social responsibility. all the time bargaining bargained bargained, but he was not given these. all she wanted was for the americans to enter iraq through saudi arabia, there are other gulf countries, and now this is the usual turkish way of bargaining. and so, i think that most likely, it just won’t work for them, blackmail and here’s an attempt to put it. here, in general, to drive the great powers, a difficult condition. it just doesn't work. well, here, it seems to me that it is important to understand, firstly, bargaining is in principle, in the culture of the east. this is a bazaar. ah, but uh, the second thing, and it seems to me more important, is that turkey acts in its national selfish interests, and these national

selfish interests of turkey sometimes contradict the interests of russia and sometimes coincide with the interests of russia yes, so here we need, as it were approach is not that oh, how bad, turkey allowed finland sweden to join nato turkey is acting in turkish interests. yes, this is both bad and good. this sometimes causes our friction with ankara. sometimes the fact that turkey acts in its own national interests leads to the turkish stream project leads to the supply of s e 400, and leads to the fact that a partnership is built between russia and turkey and turkey does not impose sanctions, of course, yes, a nuclear power plant and so on and so on. the like and perhaps, turkey will become a member of the brix. yes, she has expressed such, such, such interest more than once. here's another, but a very important tool of politics, the hybrid war. uh, the west that he holds in relation to russia a

is an economic war, but lately . i personally observe changes to some of the toolkit, and further build-ups. this is an economic war, because, as the g-7 summit showed, the west is no longer ready for a qualitative increase in anti-russian sanctions , there was no transition to a qualitatively new level, and the west has already significantly exhausted its resource for increasing sanctions, having faced serious internal economic problems and exacerbate international crises, and which we observe and energy and food and others and uh, in in this regard, the west is moving from trying to limit interaction with russia to trying to limit the profit that russia receives from its trade and economic activities. and one of the decisions of this big seven itself is the beginning

of consultations, and the mechanisms for establishing some kind of external artificial administrative ceiling for russian oil prices and russian gas prices for russian gas, but at the same time, even in the west , many analysts. for example, a bloomberg analyst on the pages of the washington post newspaper writes that this is complete nonsense and implement. uh, that's not going to work. listen to us treasury secretary janet el he's actively advocating capping expert prices on russian oil sounds like a great idea. just don't expect it to work according to the delivery plan from russia if their cost is above the price ceiling, which is yet to be determined, will not be insured. moscow has already begun to create an alternative to mutual insurance clubs and offers to protect supplies through the russian national reinsurance company that may be enough for some

indian and chinese companies, which now account for the bulk of the russian oil market, a plan promoted by the finance minister. janet yen's us will demand that the eu lift the sanctions, which it just agreed to - not the most attractive prospect after a series of painful negotiations that the bloc has had to achieve their acceptance by all 27 members. i am not sure that many european countries were eager to negotiate such new sanctions that would allow the chinese and indian companies to buy oil at a significant discount, and their own companies. they weren't allowed to buy it. at all, vladimir dmitrievich do you agree ? and in general, is it possible to imagine such a global government plan, which, from the standpoint of the collective west, no longer dominates the world economy? i would dictate prices, you know, we have here, uh, such a one has already arisen at our round table. such a noisy heated discussion about the professionalism of the unprofessionalism of knowledge, uh, so to

speak, and our experience, as they say now unfriendly partners. here, hmm, in the process of passing through the seven a, in the frame of journalists, i got behind the scenes when the macron catches up with biden and whispers sensational news in his ear that allegedly not saudi arabia, they are the united arab emirates cannot produce oil, because it is on the production ceiling. here you yourself think miserably. yes, these people have been discussing oil price sanctions for several months now. all of them have these numbers, as they say, they should bounce off their teeth, and this should not be a surprise. there is not only that the macron confused the title, so to speak, of the head of the united arab emirates but the main thing is that he did not even understand the essence of what he was told he was told in fact that both saudi arabia and the united arab emirates would adhere to those agreements again plus which they so to speak achieved, but why am i talking about this, that if you look at this situation, through the prism

of this illogical mise-en-scene, you really start to think about the professionalism of the decisions made and the question of the price ceiling, it’s from this series. uh, as it is customary to say in economic, so to speak, in economic language, we are in the oil market. this is a seller's market, when supply is at best equal to demand at worst less than demand, therefore, in this case, sellers. in general, they dictate their terms. and as we see now, the idea itself, er, is to offer the world community to buy russian oil cheaper than it is on the market. well, probably any buyer will agree with this, because any buyer wants to buy cheaper. it's just how to implement it, so there are several mechanisms that they negotiate through the insurance companies. for example, so to speak, e increase the insurance premium to such an extent that the transportation of oil will simply

be unprofitable, the first option, the second option really collect. uh, pool, uh, shipping companies that just won't ship oil. if it is under the contract is more expensive than some. the price is already, i leave aside the question of whether russia will agree to sell oil under this a low price of some special, so to speak, somewhere someone has set the question even in another technical order in order to conduct this procedure. they must solve, firstly, the problems with the already imposed sanctions by the european union. and, that is, they must roll them back from carrying such a word back and adopt new sanctions, which will no longer say that an embargo on russian oil is being introduced there, but there is a certain ceiling, which, so to speak, but at the same time, oil continues to be purchased . this is the first second they have to solve the problem with others oil producing countries. at what price will they sell? so far, for example, the last decision with the audio frame was about raising, not lowering the price, and finally, the third point is the well-

known discount on russian oil for russian urals oil, which really, uh, in january there was about two dollars, then it reached the mark more than 30. now it has again slightly begun to decline to boiled thirty, that is, we are now selling oil at about $85 per barrel in terms of budget parameters russian. moreover, even with that stable exchange rate, so to speak, the strengthened ruble exchange rate. this is still about 40% higher than the oil that is included in the budget, so it seems to me that now these details that exist, they say that in general this is a beautiful idea, which, as it was rightly said, is almost impossible to implement, but we'll see , so to speak, again , returning to the political topic, yes, when you need to show a picture, probably. someone will portray and show, so to speak, but realizability this is very doubtful against this background. it is very

remarkable that they are even trying to set a certain ceiling for the russian gas price. with that said, that's because natural gas is supplied through pipelines. russia will not have the opportunity to quickly diversify, and therefore the supposedly european union can dictate here, but it's business. it seems to me that everything will end up with russia simply stopping, in this case, supplying gas, and this will be installed. e question. in general, the survival of the economies of such countries as germany, because officially admits, on so many levels, that they, well, can't survive without supplies of russian gas . in particular, bilt magazine. e, reports that if russian gas supplies are completely cut off, then germany's gdp will fall by 12 and a half percent. i just want to evaluate here the non-professionalism and non-professionalism of the searchlight, which today appear in multitudes as more annoyance and more damage to russia should be. it seems to me to evaluate the persistence of the

search and the fact that people are looking for these ways and in search process. they find some solutions that create problems. this, of course, is a question. to what extent is it critical for us? uh, we hope it's not critical, but the fact remains the state. the west today is largely preferred by the economic imperative to the political. yes , first of all, yes. secondly, will the german economy be good or not? somehow, this is not the united states of great britain. this is not the first concern about the state of the uk economy, e.g. germany, they may very well come from everyone with another. uh, in fact, the reasons, that is, the reason to weaken the same germany or weaken this very european union. following china, it is also an economic competitor, the global economic competitor of the united states,

which is why i say that the united states is in this situation the gainer, imposing the political rules of the game of the economy. and this, uh, someday we hope it should stop and should lead to some kind of uprising, well, in a figurative sense, against this dictate or some progress in order to limit do not let it. uh, well, for some reason, to be realized in full, but at the moment it is obvious that the palm is to achieve this damage, look for a way to cause damage to minimize russia's profits to minimize 10,000 sanctions restrictions imposed on russia, of course, is already physically hard to imagine what else you can think of, except for outright hostilities, but this is already a different experience. well, here i am just s uh, i would pay attention to a very important thing, which konstantin fedorovich said that politics determines the economy. eh, it seems to me that this whole

crisis, this whole situation is a confirmation of this thesis, and i cannot but mention it here. e a recent article by one of the very eminent american experts in international affairs, joseph naya. uh, joseph nye is a saa the author of the concept of complex interdependence. in principle, back in the seventies and soft power. yes, but in the seventies, joseph noah robert kahane. uh, they wrote a book of strength and interdependence, in which noted that e economic interdependence radically changes the political relations between countries involved in mutual interdependence, war is impossible. and, in principle, political relations are developing in the direction of cooperation. and recently, nai refuted himself, just assessing the ukrainian crisis. he wrote that no interdependence does not work. and it is politics that determines economic relations, not economics that determines political

relations. well, everything is in a complex here, but now and, of course, it is political relations, and prevail, so it is very important to maintain political and foreign policy sovereignty, but also i would like to uh, emphasize uh, very correct thesis. e vladimir dmitrievich about the quality of political persons. this is something we touch on very often. this also applies to sanctions decisions and decisions in the field of security, because indeed the quality of those elites who make decisions today in the west is sometimes simply shocking, and this is a very vivid illustration that confirms this state. uh, the political elite is, for example, a statement today's british prime minister boris johnson yes nuclear powers permanent member of the un security council that if vladimir putin were a woman. that military conflict in ukraine would not have happened, yes, well, how would one

hear this from a person who is trying to be like winston churchill with his military cabinet. yes and despite the fact that margaery thatcher was once a predecessor, u johnson in the post, uh, prime minister, of ​​course i list, but the mayor is starving. i'm not talking about hillary clinton condoleezza rice madeleine albride, who, uh, was much more in favor of the war than the men. well , nevertheless, johnson thinks so, and, of course , in this case, it is not surprising that turkish president erdogan, just on the same nato itself in the form of a joke, but as you know, in every joke there is part of the joke. yes, in a conversation he said that this comrade here is a disgrace to us. uh, pointing just to uh boris johnson. this one is embarrassing us. yes, it's a joke, a joke. calm down

boris more upset. it can be seen, meant that he, boris, has some turkish roots, so i think he wanted to compliment him, generally claims that he has russian roots, in general, the actions of the collective west and in the economic and military sphere point to the same problem, he still thinks that he determines the events, that it will be the way it wants , it is the west that wants to set the price of oil it wants. to determine the terms of peace in ukraine and the time of the cessation of hostilities, russia will not be at the g20 summit and so on. but this is not how the world has changed and has changed irrevocably. uh, western hegemony is no more, and this is one of the most important tectonic shifts that has been accelerated by the russian special operation in ukraine, get used to it, of

course. difficult, yes, because the west has dominated world politics for about 500 years. but sooner or later you will have to get used to it, and, uh, for the first time in these 500 years, the world will become, not only multipolar. well, truly global. it was a great game of all the best to you. hello program. time will tell continues to work in we will start broadcasting live as part of the information channel on pervy i artem sheinin today. well, in general, this can also be said to be reports from the front, because a very important part of the hostilities. this is the moral-psychological spirit. we have talked a lot about this lately about low places and very

low moral and psychological spirit. vsu for obvious reasons, and today we'll start with something else. well , as they say, and for the sake of contrast, it's nice, but they sent me just an hour and a half ago, right from there. i think that's just now there is a recently recorded video with our fighters, artillery fighters, who say hello, and they tell their relatives to you and me to everyone , including guys from dagestan in their native language and if i understand correctly, this is kumyk, if i misunderstand, let they excuse me. in any case, many thanks. uh, to the officer who wrote it down and forwarded it, because this is very important, here is the feeling that all of russia is together. we are so different, but nevertheless we are all together. let's listen. note. it to the question of what mood the guys have gone.

salaam aleikum. chisel salam alaikum from dagestan salam alaikum to my people to the lower tae who lives in the buynaksk region. salam to all, we are here, in short, we are holding on normally, everything is fine with us salam, in short, it will be fine. everything is fine. we beat the enemy. nobody will leave us. we will punish it all. who is here? all sorts of nasty things will be here, who is heated here, we will return home, everything is fine. my name is magomedov republic of dagestan city of makhachkala assalam alaikum in dagestan makhachkala to all russia, our homeland, salam to all, all the best, all the tasks that i will transfer ahead and

why we are here and all our orders of our main team will still be completed, the tasks will be completed , and we will come home with a victory to hurt. wishing you all good health, good health, and so that we all return home and to all the guys who is at the front ibragimov assalam alaikum, dagestan here you understand the tasks set. we're all right, we're all right. thank you for your support for experiencing all this we feel. we will fulfill all tasks. thank you very much, dagestan buynaksky district chikent. hello everyone alaikum. don't worry about us. we are fine. we go all the way to the end. i want to convey the whole of dagestan a huge

assalam alaikum. and we will hammer and finish and go to the end. don't worry about us. we are all fire. thanks to my father for this character, which is for my upbringing, and he told me to the end, or not. thank you all, brother, and we will move on. salaam aleikum. i want to go home, i want to finish it all to the end and go to my relatives. well really fire, really fire, really will go to melt. everything, it is clear that the guys have a mood. this is actually what our army is like, as an extremely fighter said. yes , a simple guy from the village, all tasks will be completed. thank you father, not a step back. well, actually. and

including their mood from their combat work from their success depends on how things will progress on the fronts. how will it progress? that same genocification, and that same demilitarization of ukraine, in fact. here i am i think that the reason for the guys. maybe they didn't see it. now they will see and for the good mood of many of us nudification can be visualized. now i will show you a photo of what denocification and demilitarization look like in one bottle. this is one and the same person before the demilitarization denocification and after the decification and demilitarization. volyn is the same famous one, well, the former famous one, and now, well, as it turns out, well, normally a person used brings in the national economy, in principle, here, it seems to me that this is the way

in many ways, this is the path that many heroes have to go through, and behind the predator, as a result of the work of which ordinary guys from our villages in dagestan and buryatia and the ivanovo region and the kaliningrad region and yakutia work anywhere. notice no evil, they have no evil, they have no hatred, they do n’t have, and so on, all the hatred is on the other side and , in fact, the results of the work of these guys are very important, including for what will happen to head with the mood of another country? i am even now it’s not about the ukrainian and kyiv regimes. now i'm talking about those who you sort of raised him, spoiled him to the extreme and support here in this very, so to speak, brother of a murderous war, and about how he raised and how he spoiled. well,

i'll let you listen to zelensky, that same gutta-percha boy, who has been spoiled to the point that he already really considers himself the arbiter, judging by the world. and at least in russia, here he is turning to the security council. he, who, of course, you understand, was going to in kremenchug in donetsk, they had no time, in gorlovka there was no time, a little poise, no time for no reason, but in kremenchug where everything is very clear, they immediately gathered and let out greens. well, let's burn the potion, please. i suggest you. i urge you to deprive the delegation of the state of the terrorist of the powers of the un eugenassembly, it is possible, it is necessary, it is fair. it's honest russia has no right to remain in the un security council if we act consistently and show political will, then this will be the only logical solution to the un charter worked and was respected by all members of the organization, it is necessary to give a legal assessment of the concept of state terrorism. at the un level,

all actions of russia should receive legal assessment and global sanctions for the fact that russia is destroying the world legal order. he sniffed something inspiring and, therefore, very confidently appeals to the world community; he appeals in the bush in the united nations to respect back and forth, this is if who has forgotten a person who pretends to be the president of a country that has been on the eyes of the whole world violated the resolution of the united nations because. if suddenly someone is not aware of those same minsk agreements, and these are not just minsk agreements. this is a un security council resolution that includes the same minsk agreements. if anyone has forgotten, i reminded you yesterday that since january, all representatives of the kiev regime, including this very showman, have been saying that they cannot, they are not able, they are categorical. uh,

not at all able to fulfill these german, that is, the country formally at the level of his leadership. more than once, not two, not 10, she stated that she refuses to comply with the un resolution, and now the person who is still heading this one, which means this state calls on everyone to be punished. uh, russia, uh, they call non-compliance with something. it does more than that. this is based on a certain video, which in his opinion and the opinion of the one who provided him with this video. and you know how schuler works, that is, this is supposedly a video that should convince everyone that the rocket arrived yesterday, and the day before yesterday kremenchuk was in shopping center. it's not for nothing that i make such an emphasis on the fact that zelensky is a showman who was in the circus. you understand, this very often happens when an illusionist. hands show something that makes you believe that you see what you see,

despite the fact that in this video, in fairness , this video does not prove anything to either side or the other side. this, well, in principle, this is not proof, but he demonstrates it, out, being sure that at least part of the members of the un and the members of the security council, namely representatives of the western bloc. they are the ones who are true, not him. uh, that's how the illusionist distracts, and who are happy to be deceived. why will you tell me? on what basis do you say this, but on the basis that yesterday you flew from this very ukraine that he represents, for example, flew to new kakhovka in a residential area. a child flew into a residential area, a child died, three people were injured, someone else remembers this, someone collects security advice on this. i'm not talking about arrivals in the dpr lpr. here, just look. if summer is new, an open

window is calm, a playground. ok military facility or what? no, not a military facility, yasinovataya is treated like this, almost every other day, i'm not talking about donetsk, i 'm not talking about donetsk as they say, they said a million times, no one sees anything. and against this background, the scribes are no longer zelensky’s scribes, who represent these western countries, continue to write such texts, addressing them to the leaders of these countries, please. a war crime committed in kremenchug, an attack on a crowded trade center is another sign that russian aggression against ukraine has turned into an all-out war western regime sanctions sluggish arms shipments are unlikely to deter putin or suppress his desire to subjugate ukraine over the past

4 months. putin has violated all the international rules of war and it seems. he believes that because of his hesitation and uncertainty. the west will not enter into conflict and will limit itself to supporting zelensky let's surprise him. and now the most important thing, let's surprise him. yes actually what here, look at roger boys, in principle, already surprisingly, but okay, the illusionists are a showman a showman, zelensky is for this to play a role in this show and they appointed and chose and pay. and roger boyce. well, i don’t know, it’s as if he writes all this from the heart, or he also works out something like that. well, spit clicker. well , i have another question. literally today, that and this is clearly not zelensky and it can’t be only zelensky, it can’t be just this, this is the times, this is roger fight all that so influenced, in the teenage language, the greyhound of western leaders. why are they suddenly so overwhelmed? and why did such a

frank switch suddenly go? well, they have gathered for this nato get-together. and that's what they said there they call me questions. is it just zelensky, is it just the times? or is it something like that. well, let's start with the fact that they adopted a resolution there, in which they write in black and white that the main threat is the main threat. this is the russian federation, the most important and direct a threat to the security of allies to peace and stability in the euro-atlantic region. we will continue to respond to russian threats with hostile action. uh, so, uh, in such a united and responsible way, but in the key, as it is written here? yes, but that's okay, resolution by resolutions. yesterday we listened to sergei viktorovich lavrov, who says that not today, not yesterday, and not the day before yesterday. long ago they designated us as the main threat. there is nothing surprising here, but here is the tonality and i repeat once again, this one is off scale

some. and some kind of self-confidence bordering, in my opinion, a little bit on madness. she surprised me today. well, let's give a few examples of a tanker, a favorite character in our program , part-time litrestr, the british foreign secretary, you can expect everything from her, but nevertheless. well, this is very revealing, please. it is very important to ensure the defeat of russia in ukraine, this is essential for the existence of the security of freedom and democracy in europe and this is the only way we can achieve. long-term peace in europe, some say there is a possibility of negotiations. while russian troops are still in ukraine, i think that this will give us a false peace and lead to further aggression in the future. we must learn the lessons of the past minsk protocol. i could not establish a lasting peace in europe and i insist that you first need to defeat russia and then negotiate. here comes the question. maybe he rolled over on the tank again or hit there, this is the staging of the image. i understand that she does not know anything including that

she does not remember that in the fifteenth year the minsk protocol came into being. eh, well, as if not when there was a balance in hostilities, as a compromise. it was a tearful request from germany and france to stop the republics. well , listen on. and one more, as if the figure, it seems, is not a fan of riding tanks. a and well, in general macron, listen. japanese, i think that one can applaud the courage of the ukrainian president of the ukrainians and their army. as for zelensky's goal to end the war before the end of the year, then 4 months of war have passed. the end of the year is far from being signed by anyone that the war will end in the coming weeks or a month. i very much hope that this will happen by the end of the year with confidence, i will say that russia cannot and should not win. and it also became somehow belligerent to say with confidence that russia cannot and should not be hers, that such macrons, perhaps, will stop? well , for some reason he says this, i understand that the environment affects his environment. it

influences a lot of people there, because, well, okay, there great britain what they are, but a nuclear power. okay there, france is a nuclear power. and, well, there is a lot of things in the anamnesis, such as the empire and great france. well, here is the prime minister of spain, for example, spain, please. today we are sending a strong signal to putin. you will not win, the international order based on the rules win ukraine will win peace will be achieved. and i want to tell him pedro where are you pedro where are you going? why do you need pedro sanchez why do you? what are you talking about? well, drink this border of yours or something do you drink there? well, yes, maybe, by the way, this is the reason that in general it’s already a little hot in madrid , so i don’t know, i don’t know what happened, but

okay, even pedro is ready for this. a belgian is a belgian who has ever heard anything about the military successes of the belgian army. unless in kong, except perhaps in competitions and then this is not accurate, and nevertheless. you just look at it. well, when you listen to it, just think about what is wrong with them all, please. the best way to end all this is to help ukraine win on the battlefield. at we have no other choice. i prefer the diplomacy of diplomatic consultations, but this requires someone to sit. opposite you at the moment. we are talking to the wall, he is talking to the wall, and do you understand someone, but he wants to help ukraine win. and now i have a question for you, as a military expert. as a political scientist, whatever you want. well , i’m the version that it’s just hot in madrid, i’m her well , because if people swim like that from the heat, then you need to change your job, after all, what, in your opinion, is

the reason for this, here are the aggravations of these militant moods, or it seems to them that the war that is going on is quite viscous in the places where it is now going on; these same people, none of them understand or imagine what multi-day assaults are, e.g. multi-level reinforced concrete fortifications that were built for 8 days and no one you have no idea what it is. and, perhaps, it began to seem to all of them that since it was all so long and viscous and not fast, it seemed like everything here would get stuck somewhere, and therefore the greyhound or the second version scaled so much that they no matter what will be accepted here. indeed, not just a resolution, but some kind of collective decision, roughly speaking, to transfer this conflict to a level, well, of some greater complexity. e outside ukraine and so on. that

is, to transfer the confrontation to some other level, or do you have your own version artyom, when we started discussing a special military operation, when it all started here, i said more than once that what is happening in ukraine is not the interests of ukraine, these are the interests of europe the united states of america had to be united to put together a new military-political bloc for europe, ukraine was ideally suited for this. here is the strategy that you voiced what they are now you it happens on the basis of no strategy. she was preparing before the special military operation in the nineteenth year, the working group was headed by jens stoltenberg, and in this strategy, which they are now adopting, it was already written that russia is a military adversary. and everything that they are now voicing there. it was written there. it's true alexei petrovich well, look. i understand that it was all written down. it was written. they've said it a thousand times. well, look, i don’t know, i don’t have it at hand right now, this is the map that the germans made by drawing. this one here is the front line. yes, two and a half thousand

kilometers / h. i can't show you this map right now, but oh, the size of which european states we already control. but after the start of a special military operation, everything that they wrote and said before i understand it, they were under the illusion that they were the winners of the cold wars and so on, but now they have been seeing for 4 months and their intelligence services cannot but report reality to them. about what fortified areas are being taken, in general, about what has been taken, mariupol, about what this line of defense has been cut from severodonetsk to volnovakha and so on and so forth, they cannot but know this. they can know this, that is, the strategy on which they didn’t stake, they already imported the situation, weapons were trained by these uh, ukrainian brigades, by the way, a lot of money was spent on this. that have they prepared. they were preparing ukraine as a taran that was supposed to hit russia, and now this ram is crumbling into dust

. what should they do? of course, the map about which yes, that is, people understand that now that front line, about which we are talking, is the distance from lübeck in northern germany to messina in southern italy. but is even strass able to understand this figure, but uh, look what happened. the thing is, when they put the guns in there, they thought it was enough. it's really. there are a huge number weapons. that's what our guys are there when they take the next cream areas, they find warehouses there. yes, we can every warehouse there battalions partisan detachments to form a whole army in a format, that is , a lot of weapons were brought in, but it did n’t work, neither weapons nor training, nothing, but at the same time they faced such a, uh, let’s say, a fact that they have now angered russia, they, based on their coordinate system there, are afraid that russia will not forgive them for this, but in order to, uh, she does not forgive, you need to somehow

form and group. by the way, this was one of the goals that the united states of america pursued when they poisoned us in the fourteenth year, russophobia was started, just for this, and now they are from the fact that they will have to pay. they even sanctions do not work, nothing works, but they are running out of resources. wait. wait now i'll explain. this would be an excuse for them to have a borzometer somewhere in the other direction. started this russophobia out of the blue in 2014 . now the stakes have reached the point where everyone is asking the question. and the next step is the beginning of the third world war. so i’m leading to this, that is, they have brought them to such a state that their officials , where they are leading alexei petrovich, i see where they are leading to the next conflict to the next conflict, because this conflict that they started, he pursued one thing. he was supposed

to hit us hard to destroy our economy as much as possible, because they believed that our the economy is weak. ok then. they now proceed from the fact that they succeeded or not. they assume that they can't do it. they assumed they could do it. this and they have nowhere to go in this conflict, and we have nowhere to retreat to. they closed all meeting rooms. eh, as they say possibilities. they say that they are talking to the wall for them to retreat. nowhere, but they're not retreating. after all, judging by their rhetoric, they say that they are going to attack. that's what the conversation is about and i have therefore, the question arises for people that i agree with that had one plan, and now that plan hasn't quite worked out. well, how could there be an option, well, a little to dampen the rhetoric. well, and somehow there is something they inflate this rhetoric. i ask, accordingly the question. this is inflation of rhetoric. or is it really already voicing plans for the transition to another level of

conflict. in this case, i’ll express the original version with mad respect, the tougher the rhetoric, the more they are willing to negotiate , i explain why it’s so well, alexey petrovich in general about, yes, now indeed, the situation is not developing according to their scheme, there is a strategy to plan and so on. and now what i heard, for example, when the macron spoke, is about the following russia but please stop by winter. some tasks will be solved by the end of the year. but if you do not stop, the end of the year before the end of the year, we will not try to impose a negotiation process. everyone understands very well that if there are no peace talks, no delegations meet, then our goals are a special military operation will be carried out. i think already somewhere in the third or fourth stage, my assumption may be wrong, and in this sense, this is a signal, as trump has always done. in this case, in this regard, they really look like a trump, he always screwed up the stakes before the upcoming interests,

then, when they sat down at the negotiating table. he didn't say i'll leave everything for broke. he says, here's what i screwed up. i can lower the degree a little, but in response, please, here it is. and in this sense, this is what the macron says in my opinion. yes, this is a direct call to the fact that we will not conditionally pump up ukraine with weapons there so that it can stretch there further than before the new year. so in this sense, again, i could be wrong. this is a russian signal to us. if you don't stop by the time there is december 31, 2022 , then yes a new outcome of the confrontation. we can also threaten you. we attribute you as the main threat in our mean strategy. e security, yes nato and so on. that is, it is just a symbol of the fact that they are in state of frustration. but what the spaniard says here, again, i am not a great specialist, but this is megalomania. this is nonsense of grandeur, because when a spaniard says this, who, if

you look closely from the point of view, again, the military potential in terms of assistance to ukraine and so on, is somewhere in the second ten countries, then the army in europe, in my opinion . this is a herd instinct, when an informational one is created, it means a space where you can not come out with sound ideas before i finish. how many hours he talked with our president 100 he is a blessing, a lot of this is not enough. he spoke of my calling for peace. let's there and so on. let's lay down our weapons, try to solve the level, and so on. now, at the nato summit, they cannot afford peacekeeping rhetoric, but in fact, what they are now declaring is their willingness to sacrifice the territory of ukraine in exchange for the fact that russia just does not go further. an interesting version. actually. you partly develop what alexey petrovich says when he says that they had this plan for a long time and, and they began to implement this plan a long time ago. now they seem to have a little bit of everything, and then you and alexei

petrovich will get sick, because you say that by raising the stakes in the form of rhetoric, they limit it all to this territory. and they show the temporary space until which we can solve our problems. but then, back and forth, alexei petrovich says, a completely different thing, that they, given that they didn’t go very well. it 's not very vulgar here, then they, jacking up this rhetoric move to another level of conflict, expanding its geography. and this is the most interesting thing for me, despite the fact that there is also an alz, which demonstrates for me that they are well, rather, he speaks for your version. listen to his reaction when he was asked, well, like we are, yes. yes to him, it means that russia was defeated, ukraine, and here the scholites ask. well, what is there, how is it about guarantees to ukraine schultz, do not only listen carefully. how much you observe here is more important than facial expressions and gestures.

mr. chancellor the big seven, promised ukraine security guarantees after the war. could you elaborate on what that guarantee is, yes? it's all. do you understand? why did i say facial expressions, izhevsk is just a meme, you know ukraine how to give security guarantees to a country that after some time may not exist, and it seems to me that they were just discussing this on this site. here's a look for me. in fact, schultz is also very interesting. why did i say both facial expressions and gestures, maybe, but you are right, nikita sergeevich. that it was something out of his head that they they discussed it there, but it still brings us back to the next question, if obviously many of them discussed something that led him to such a reaction, like the guys guaranteeing guarantees of ukraine well, yes, he

showed everything, then, here, this is a link between understanding what -something realities and inflation of rhetoric is clearly not only about ukraine, but more widely. there is some kind of paradox strange for me in this, which needs to be discussed, karina will start discussing it with you right after the advertisement. what to expect from them. don't switch. this is an advertisement for vtb and it's time to speak frankly, there are things that our experience accumulated over decades, which helped us to become stronger and survive all crises, will not disappear anywhere

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complete all the tasks and return home, everything will be fine good and so on. i don't know they're watching. they are now our program or not. well, these guys will give them. and they are also probably interested in that circle and, let's say, the horizon of tasks that our army is currently solving, taking into account. what are the objectives of our opponents. i think it has long been clear to all these guys there that their opponent is not the ukrainian army, by and large the ukrainian army is, roughly speaking, well, uh, infantry and cannon fodder. they perfectly understand who opposes them there, and in this sense, when we talk, what’s in our heads those who oppose these same nato members, we are starting this conversation. it’s something that didn’t work out for them in ukraine, and they are now swelling up for us. that's how scary they say. well, let's finish everything by the end of the year, otherwise, we or they say that the guys, well, ukraine is just the beginning,

we will now, so to speak, arrange kuz'kin's mother, because we are married. and what are you, there, as if russia . these are two very important and different lines of thinking, or do you have your own. well, you know, i generally perceived this meeting, and the first meeting in madrid, you know, for me, this is generally the apparatus of naked kings, because the cartel that arose, and on the ruins of the soviet union well, the world order, when i am now the soviet union and these guys dominated, and he covered himself with a copper basin, in fact, this is the outgoing nature. and what is curious is that i understand that there is also a counter elite, and even it is already felt anyway, i, as an expert, have reason to observe that little by little. this counter-elite is preparing the demolition of these very naked kings, and moreover, they are already

they just stop anyway. they are not so stupid people it is the frontman, in fact , big-big politics. it is clear that someone is behind them, they lost, they created a critical absolute situation and they are not today. tomorrow, one way or another, they will demolish it, and we even talked about it with you. uh, the same macron and so on. they lost so much. they've screwed up so much that there's nothing left for them to do. where do you say they lost, where they lost they lost with their own economy, they lost with energy generation, which will not allow the west. now nowhere in europe, not in the states, to produce weapons. they lost the geopolitical ones in the middle east and in africa they lost everywhere these weak attempts to create something like acoustics. wait for it. wait one second. so you say these weak

attempts to create august okay, aucus, here you are, eh. those people who said that they all lost and even they themselves understand that they will lose. here is what they say in terms of their strategic plans. here is our stoltenberg about nato eastern borders, please. i would like to clarify with you regarding the deployment of 300,000 rapid reaction forces, who will send them, where they will be deployed. what will be the composition of the command, and when they are already approaching the front line, then just talk about the entry of finland , sweden into nato, so when will we see troops on the borders? as for the expansion of the response force, i expect it to be ready next year. we will make a decision now and they will be ready next year. such a plan is the forces will be paid and organized by their own nato countries, they will be deployed in their countries, but will be designed to defend specific territories, in addition, a

large number of heavy weapons and equipment will be deployed. as well as warehouses in these territories. here, then, he says, but now now now now now now there is no. no. so you say, these people lost everything. they already mean nothing. they are none of you. wait a second, so first of all, he's talking about it. second, they are there. about it. we'll talk separately later. they have already actually brought the matter to the point that sweden will be finland. uh, as if in this very e their e nato and we say, here they are losers they have everything so already, as if it fell back and forth, but with the inclusion of two of these territories, look at the map. yes, yes, in their military bloc. it seems to me that it doesn’t seem so, and by the way, stoltenberg confirms what i think about what nika and him like that seem to be completely different. he doesn't talk like a loser. listen to him. accession of finland and sweden to nato

important for themselves for the alliance and all the baltic countries , just look at the map and you will understand that their membership in nato will change the whole situation in the baltic region. they will cover the baltic countries estonia lithuania and latvia and will also allow us to strengthen our presence in this part of the world. this is a signal to president putin that nato's door will remain open to new countries. this is the opposite of what he wanted when he proposed a european security agreement in january. he wanted less nato at the russian borders, but now he will get more nato you want to tell me that this, that he speaks with words and this, that we will soon be able to see on the map, that this is the type of rhetoric of the losers, who say all this because they are the losers. well, somehow you know, i really want to believe you, but i would like some kind of, well, more solid evidence, let's say they don't have the resources to do this, therefore. randomly answering the first

question. he says that it will be next year. you understand what will happen in six months. you do you understand how events have condensed now? no. i know that you understand and now you will tell me, i don’t understand, well, a lot of things will happen in these six months, and the whole reality will change, the whole geopolitical reality in europe will change . they will not be able to arm. they can't arm her. they won't be able to because they don't have power generation to produce weapons. right now, the arva company in france is on the verge of bankruptcy, that is, france is turning off its power units of their nuclear power plants the same thing happens. they have 100% depreciation of all power plants 100%, they were not able to modernize them, they were sitting pears. sorry for the expression, they were hanging around, they didn’t do anything, i’m sorry i should have apologized. you said what they were hanging about. and you just said that

they how to hang around like that. i will no longer be so possible, and then i will add. but that is, they simply cannot do it more than that, well, one of them may understand that they cannot do this, and stoltenberg, in general, is the same as saying it his new assignment. he takes it down, that's all. i want to apologize to the turks and the only person who is not the naked king. this is the eradon in this company. we will talk separately in this construction, and that's it, and more and by the way, he got everything he wanted. it’s true, lev 35 he will be supplied with the truth and so on, but in a sense, he is already very separate from nato and the press already writes about his junglegrade that they have more, but we’ll put erdogan still just, well, him positions are very interesting. everything is like only erdogan rene sounds, uh, impossible. yes, we will

talk about erdogan, and by the way, i agree with you that in this situation he is not the naked king. can we like it or not? today i just wrote in my telegram channel today. that's about this very erdogan, what they say, well, he bargained there, knocked down the price and poured out in the comments. he is such, he is so and so, he is not like that and bears. he wrings out his interests from these and we have said this a thousand times to the studio that he is just a future politician who might like someone or don't like it. he solves his problems, but for now, let's put him aside, anyway, talking about these naked kings, as karina says, who do not have the strength, in fact, to arm and supply such a front with personnel, as it is supposed when we go to the version of nikita sergeevich that they puff out their cheeks and with the expansion of nato, yes, too, but here is the key point. he said stoltenberg and these troops will be deployed in

each country. yes, that is yours. the armies of which you will finance and your own wallet and will be a heavy weapon. but, when he started talking about heavy weapons, about complexes about warehouses, against the background of the fact that the military-industrial complex in europe is very bad and not in all countries. it is, well, in many it will not be soon. yes, the only one who can boast to fully provide for their troops is france; all the rest live on american handouts for years. we talked to you before the broadcast, but here we are talking about the fact that the americans have achieved the most important thing, that this will be security provided with american weapons, but at the same time, but at the same time, it turns out that the americans cannot pronounce weapons, because those capacities that are called the military-industrial complex. for example, i'll tell you. here they have three state shipyards, where the most powerful fleet in the world was supposed to be created. yes, they

have recently upgraded. years ago, and we have so many versions we don't have them anymore, we don't say the exact number, no more and we don't have them anymore. we have a whole corporation of them. yes and we can produce. now the ships, both near and far sea zone. that is, we are upgrading the fleet until 2050. we'll get everything new and nice and we'll discuss it in 2010. here, as it were, i will definitely come here and say i have already been invited. yes, but here the question is how is this happening against the backdrop of the global crisis that is now in europe and people, uh, pay a high price for electricity for these gasoline there for food and so on. here they are told, the main thing will simply not be safety, so you you will still pay for the army, by the way, in contributions to nato after this as a strategy, they will not be 2%. and three well, in general, trump, in my opinion,

started about four. well, yes. forward, that is, now you have created a situation in which the europeans can no longer brush aside. this is the counter-elite about which they talk about rooting and ask a question. why the first? from which pocket of yours because the russians will come? yes, the russians will come, but the russians didn’t say that you’ll come anywhere, but the counter-elite says, so go fuck yourself, then we ourselves agree with the russians. they have a lot of problems when i said that there would be another point of tension. i meant pribalochku about, about which also now yes, there are a lot of interesting things. maybe we’ll also talk with you from the root, but nikita sergey, look, in principle, everything that my colleagues tell me, but in general, they fit into what you, uh, as if they told us what the guys designate for us, that spectrum of problems , which we may encounter if after some time, like by the end of the year, we do not start, stop negotiating and so on, now only the only question that remains is

they puff out their cheeks. or they have something behind these cheeks, a phrase appeared ambiguously. okay, two words passed. yes, we return to your question. i will now try to explain this construction of the image of victory - there is a basic scenario in which they declare themselves winners. what is it? see putin asked something about security guarantees. i wanted to move nato at the time of 1997, we told him, and instead we gave him sweden and finland about ukraine words. further, there is a non-basic optional scenario, the image of victory, this is the so-called additional, say. so chips, roughly speaking, yes, for example, ukraine remains on some scale. it remains to preserve its statehood conditionally for them, the ideal option, of course, is that they are now trying to lobby with all sorts of trains to kiev

and so on, so that zelensky will automatically recognize the republic of the dpr of the lpr, to forget about crimea, i’m sure that it will appear there soon because of zaporozhye and kherson and and so on, but let's say the rest are points on the map of ukraine that still exist. in this case, this is the ideal scenario for them. but what we hear is an attempt to construct a reality in which, no matter how the situation in ukraine ends, they have already designated themselves as winners. yep , about our answer. here in this regard. i think it's important to ask this question. it seems to me that our image of victory is being constructed before our eyes, but it is not, and this is our image of victory that will significantly affect their perception situations. it is in this sense that we have not yet outlined our other goals and objectives of the special military operation. there the third fifth tenth stage. in my opinion. it’s just that they are the most nervous and that’s why this puffing of the cheeks is happening, because they don’t know, understood,

that is, odessa understood lviv baltic states and by the way, what dear native aleksandrovna was talking about about other combat points and actually. uh, aleksey and taiwan is also appearing so, here you are, we started approaching this scenario, that they have, uh, there is an opportunity and there is i have a feeling that they are moving on to this, but to creating another point of tension. namely, you said the baltics, namely in the baltics, this is lithuania there, though strange things happen, because from one to one. let's listen, uh, lithuanian president. well, he, too, gives cheerfully . let's listen. the region needs the military on the ground. we can no longer depend on the alliance's commitment to send additional forces. even after the start of the conflict. there is a threat that russian and belarusian forces will block the move of the allies into the region through dump corridor. this is a corridor that russia can use geopolitically and

strategically. we must close it first of all with a strong forward presence. you see, yes, that is, that is, he is already translating this conflict, which began, as it were, as an economic one, give us troops, and he is not talking about lithuanian troops. and about weapons. he says that we need more forces to close the suwalki corridors and so on. there, the truth is against this background. that's literally an hour ago before our broadcast came, uh according to reuters interesting news, which reads as follows, which means a compromise deal on confrontation with russia over kaliningrad is nearing a denouement trade through lithuania with russian kaliningrad could return to normal within a few days they were told. how would their sources. now i have a question that, perhaps, all this is forced by the lithuanians. this, so to speak, such insubordination, even the european commission. we will block the transit they tell you, hello, some kind of transit this is a transit from russia no, we are lithuanians, not like that. we we will never go for it. send e military here,

and, as it were, more weapons and money, of course, e money. what could be this new point of conflict that you are talking about, how do you see it? it is clear that it is more indigenous in this regard, but there is such a thing that all these three baltic states are quasi-states. they are all subsidized not in europe they hang to us. no , the point is that this level of subsidies has been decreasing every year, but as soon as the level of subsidies began to decrease, they began to rise in the degree of russophobia. they shouted that they were being attacked by the teachings of the west 2017 20 21, and they threw something at them, they calmed down. they say let's build more bases. they tried to keep. that level of funding for their remote personnel was discussed here, but the fact is that they ate before, and now they can throw it in and think

interestingly before starting a special military operation serious sources there. we run discussed the issue. what if we get rid of the baltics altogether? her here is a piece of wool for the european union, the americans. well, there is a suitcase without a handle, a weight without a handle, there and so on, but no one eats there, although it is very tasty, if you remember, the first test balloon was made by the bbc company when they started making a film that russian troops entered the river daugav, yes , they all gathered in the game bunker with a hammer and a nuclear missile. say, no, let's give diplomatic sanctions there, russia will be put in place there, but in short, they already then began to surrender the baltic states, because, uh, in fact the whole idea with this baltic states that they did not think that it would allow them to somehow influence our policy is annoying. and this, of course, is a direct threat to our national security, peter and next. yes

, kaliningrad is nearby, and in general we have an exclave, which depends on many things, yes, we can establish trade routes and so on, but there is a signed one. under this transit, he said that we signed there in the nineties to recognize this lithuania there if the eu signs that there will always be transit. they are but all this is destroyed, and they understand that something needs to be done about it. and then enters the uk what does she say? let's create a union of a new bloc of the baltic states of poland and ukraine and that's it, when they said ukraine i've already spoken of the knee. and this is ukraine - this is a state that will soon disappear, the point is to create an alliance or some kind of military bloc with a state that will soon not be on the map, i understand, that is, this means in the absence. yes, but still root. here alexey petrovich says that you are there some other nuances. that's what happened anyway. you said that they would create a new point of tension, otherwise you began to

tell me about how they would surrender the baltic states so the point of tension. and artyom they won't bring it to us on a silver platter, and no one will understand him. and the surrender of land is necessary through conflict, yes, it wanders. well, here, pay attention, it means that at the end of the year the long-term expires, and the agreement between warsaw and moscow on the supply of oil and gas. ah, and as i understand it, snoskachinsky and kachansky's resignation is connected with this, because there are no people in polish politics who could negotiate with moscow. well, this is quite interesting. poland is an agent, well, or warsaw is an agent of london not well, london is so relatively a subject, as it were, yes. here after erdogan. well, hmm, erdogan is more of a subject, but nevertheless, london is active and has its own. uh, developments that allow him to act out.

uh, different combinations just as well, given their intellectual background and experience. uh, action. on this in such fields are very interesting. here. uh, in fact, warsaw was an agent of london and then warsaw as vassals and younger brothers. patronized. the same baltic is, of course. yes , we see that the processes have already begun in warsaw, because the poles turned out to be much more sober than they were. and we even assumed, because after all, we somehow assumed that the polish cavalry would jump on our tanks. well, apparently. they somehow took into account their historical experience. and then sprinkled, too, there are different ones. i want you historically, that as the leadership of the political leadership of the baltic states are people with the american ones. passports, we talked about it. yes? here they have the hereditary communist princess

and there they have the american ones. here they are completely calm. the one injured touring. they are a circus on the road such a chapiteau liquidation commission, or what? of course, of course, and people have long realized, because what is there, for example, and i have said many times that well, it so happened that, through old connections, i knew perfectly well these dissident nationalists. uh, baltic uh, late soviet era. i know what happened to them and already 10 years ago, their only concern is that the russians will not talk to us, because we have been so rude to them, done so many nasty things that they will not sit down with us at the negotiating table. they hate these touring people. these are the same nationalists who, but these same nationalists who demolished the soviet union, they are, in the situation of this confrontation between

ours and the nato bloc, they, well, as it were, might not they really love the notebooks that all these guest performers sent us, but they come back here, in general , much more sober, and that’s about it. i said, regarding the impossibility of energy generation, normal connections are burning, in the event of independence they are ready to collapse the nato bloc and what is happening in reality they understood they seemed to be sober, that is, you want to tell me that the fate of this whole springboard. she can decide. uh, well, like he's in an unexpected way and that's it, but hop, that's all. this does not pass to us. it all becomes something. well, kind of the remnants of the very ukraine about which, because, by the way, if anyone has forgotten, poland wants to profit from something here, because it wants to, and in principle, there is something here that the poles in general. in a sense, there is a lot of interesting things waiting there. now i’m myself, i’m just myself now, you know, i’m

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the way, in the subject, what is there under chernigov, and so just on this topic about bro and we are standing with kolya in the erdogan field, about which the turkish president promised to say secrets before advertising at a meeting with the us president on the sidelines of the nato summit in madrid on wednesday today, that is, he expressed hope that the expansion of the alliance, which is being considered at the meeting of the top, which we just talked about, and we said why are they expanding it, what they want to tell us will contribute to the settlement of the ukrainian crisis. nikita sergeevich directly according to your what is called according to yours. uh, so, logically, uh, mtv was broadcasting the case, and the meeting was closed, but still. i hope diplomacy will open the gates for grain exports from ukraine, he added, and now a very interesting situation arises. it means that stoltenberg says that putin wanted to remove

nato from there, and now we are going to sweden and finland and erdogan, who some time ago said that you don’t even dream about it. just don’t dream even in finland with sweden, because you are there, erdogan ruled out the possibility say yes, you know? what did he say for nothing and just forget about it he said, and then suddenly he bargained something for himself, and then he said 10 points in something, he scored 10 points for himself . and now he hopes that this will affect the resolution of the crisis. in ukraine, moreover, he looked out 10 points. i read that all his demands were met. yes, that sanctions have been lifted in connection with the purchase from 400, that is, america has washed itself, and then ah. erdogan, respectively, gets everything from sweden to finland as regards kurds. so, probably, they will extradite this or that,

other personalities, as i understand it, even he already demanded this, and, all the more so, the organizations of the jacket are closed, by the way, sweden it was one of the central ones in this sense. it means that erdogan put forward these demands and someone put pressure on sweden , finland, which was not going to do this, so that they would fulfill his requirements. did he only have requirements for them, that he still spoke of himself there? i'm telling you, removed. males are f-35. he'll get it all right. here you will earn he bargained for the consent of the membership of finland to sweden for himself, including from the americans. and this suggests that for some reason this expansion is very necessary for nato and the americans. we just discussed before the ads before the ads that everything was fine. they can't. they puff out their cheeks. they

are trying to scare us. so it's still in your opinion. are they trying to scare us and stop us here, or are they planning something, what for? do they need to hover? already, here, in your opinion, i must say that what is before the start of the military operation i spoke with my son, who, as you know, is a professional military analyst, yes. means being in active service. and when we started talking about the possibility that russia would start a military operation yaz. i said that uh , uh, immediately with the answer of the west will be. uh, the creation of a military permanent military base in lithuania latvia estonia and the accession of finland sweden to us. it's just a logical move. this is what he asked for. he agreed with me. that is, we have come to a common opinion, therefore, in fact, this is the situation. what, firstly, uh, in any case, american analysts western analysts understand that it will not work to keep ukraine in the form in which they wanted to keep it until february 24 or even until 2014.

they understand this. of course, at the grassroots and middle levels, it is certainly good news. you brought us. well, when it comes to management. there they begin to correct the analysis from a political point of view. but that's another matter. yes , well, they understand it. so, if you can't stop russia in ukraine, then you need to put up this wall following the example of the times of the cold war, when there was a clear line of confrontation between the border of the gdr frg and there further the border of the warsaw block of the nato border or, accordingly, the berlin border, if it is in berlin and this process of building this wall is now taking place, only it naturally occurs much closer e to the borders of russia than it was the borders of the ussr during the cold war. here's the simple thing. do i understand you correctly , or how you broadcast to me. eh, here then, as these analysts say, when discussing the building of this wall and the creation of these bases and overhanging here more over us. and they proceed from

the fact that everything will work out for us in ukraine, and they build it all so that we do not roll further, and not, as they say, in order to defeat us. uh, it means to transfer there, as one newspaper wrote here, to transfer the war to the territory of russia, and this is a fundamental question. they defend themselves or threaten attack. and you know, there is such an elvelu, as they say in hebrew, both. now i will explain. uh, the fact is that there really is no unanimity in the community of military analysts of political politicians, all the more so. eh, what is it. this is the most everything will turn out from the point of view of russia, well, they are guessing ukraine. what is it all, as he said? nikita sergeevich in general, we are also, in a sense, always not. both are possible, the kremlin deliberately left this question, sure that let's see how it goes and then we will narrow down more specific goals here. what is di?

rack demetrization specifically, in what way it is expressed this is actually still a very general concept, so they do not know what exactly is meant, and how far russia will be able to go. uh-huh, the first moment, so naturally on the one hand , defensive actions must be taken to minimize this very thing that russia will succeed in, but on the other hand. eh, it is necessary, of course, to create a threat to russia in order to create, firstly, political geostrategic pressure and, accordingly, divert resources and deplete russia's resources in the course of a military operation, because any war - it is resource depletion. although i will emphasize on the other hand. any war is also the mobilization of resources, the rise of the economy and military orders as a historical parallel. perhaps i'm sorry, considering. before that, i was talking all about the power generator, but there is no energy in order to produce weapons. with whom in the united states do you want to say, both in the united states and europeans, the united states may be able to cope, they are modernizing? no, you are talking about

time, they need two years. how is it right? yes europe problem, united states i agree with you. look right there ladies, the united states is an energy exporter, but let's say today came out, uh, data on oil reserves in the united states came out, they went into such a minus, there is zero with something minus zero with something there was a forecast of minus two with something they went out. that is, it becomes a serious problem let alone energy prices plus. naturally. uh, they give weapons to ukraine. well, why give four highmars, for example, they are 80, which one american general said should be given in order to ukrainians were able to neutralize the firepower of russia , well, because the capacity of american military production. they are also limited at some point. well, yes. you can’t give everything 80 there, they have 100 something there, if they give 80, and give their four, they can be produced quickly. right agree here they object to these issues. yes, well, you understand that they will try to decide, and the economy in the

united states still has a lot of potential for production. although it has. but for this, mobilize. then look it turns out an interesting story is that they are already in trouble. e with the volumes that ukraine is asking for. and we are talking about the fact that they, in order to, with e, designate a threat to us. they are still gathering. they need to, accordingly, saturate military bases with weapons lithuania latvia estonia now also finland well, because finland has an army. of course there is, and well, of course. yes, that is, in order that it not in words, but in deeds, poses a real military threat here. there is a lot to be done here as well. you need to upload it there as well. gotta keep going pump in and so on, and then the question arises, first of all, their strength, and secondly, we move on to another important one. in the war and in the politics of questions, and as a matter of fact, when they kind of oppose us, they do oppose. in

fact, not only us, but there are few who stood shoulder to shoulder with us and said, we are against you together with the russians, but there are a lot of people who stepped aside and told the west and the states, but we are definitely not with that. here you are, twitter ah chinese e, diplomat. yes, here you are, please, when next time he addresses nato, yes, a the next time they talk about the international community. you know what they meant and he says, excuse me, the population of the drix countries is 3.2 billion people, and the population of gs7 is 777 million people, and china has been leading this rhetoric from the very beginning. what about ? well, how would nato members feed on blood, we have all seen these and here the question arises. this is also rhetoric. this is also a kind of bargaining under which china imagines something. well, how would we situation with erdogan just with you. this is the same or

china has seriously decided that it is not in the bloc where the united states is inclined to think that china has seriously decided - this is due to the fact that , firstly, the united states is under the trump and in another form of biden. uh, they practically unleashed an economic war against china, this is the second time, which means that the taiwan problem is exclusively acute now, american analysts believe that it is extremely likely with a high degree of probability. china uh, will try to liberate taiwan as the chinese comrades would say or uh, invade, as the americans would say, for at least a year, maximum three years, and china is preparing for this. so, accordingly, china understands that the united states is absolutely not going to put up with this. moreover, i will gladly answer. yes, there, it means that now i do not bother you, please add one point. due to the fact that biden said today, biden is very today and tomorrow he will continue this topic will press very hard on the topic that russia and china together

are a big problem for nato now this is rhetoric, as it has been called, is not just rhetoric. in my opinion, it is for the nata of the west if suicide is needed on the territory, because the biggest nightmare for the united states and nato will be if the friendly relations between russia and china, through the cooperation of russia, china will turn into a military-political alliance, which will have joint resources on them. just some absolutely gigantic scale, to which they are being pushed , including such statements not only by biden, but here you are telling nato and the united states, here you are toltenberg, please, we are disappointed that china has not condemned russia's attack on ukraine, that china is spreading false reports about nato and the west, and that china and russia are now closer than ever. we realized it was in early february when president putin and president fiz. or that their partnership is boundless, at the same time china for the first time so clearly spoke out against nato and nato expansion, and this is the main question. they

make such statements in a sense, they seem to want to tear china off, but in fact it they are pushing in our direction, but now i still have a question about the current situation and against the background of these statements, in your opinion. china has decided, or china in a sense a little bit, like erdogan, who made a statement that he never before finland until sweden then solved all his problems and changed course a little. i believe that china made up its mind long before the special military operation. we, i even know what an example i will give in due time, the united states of america offered g2 barack obama then made a voyage china and just about said the following there dear chinese comrades. let's divide the world into two. yeah, it didn’t work out, they said no for two, roughly speaking. what china is doing now really depends a lot on how, uh, how soon and how effectively our

special military operation tasks will be solved. i will explain why, when we look at brix and the g7 development of unified approaches to the methods of specific mechanisms. well, brix is ​​very far behind. the same. ah. i'd really wanted to really see together said, at least for a start. let's translate our calculations in trade relations into the national currency, which happens there conditionally. and by the way, you know that russia is coming after the shooter again in this situation, what is the uniqueness of brix in that they are, in principle, ready, but not all together, but only when one country succeeded, here is a country that could in this case, yes expression there is a guy who could do it in russia even now. see what's going on brick 100 wants to join iran argentina that is, in this case, our country specifically military operation sets a precedent. see you can become. fortunately, an organization that will soon, not only within the framework of isolated cases of some precedents, as russia does, can change

this geopolitical reality, you can become part of the community that will already start this transformation now, as for china wait, i believe there will be many say that china seems to be going to start this year, uh, a military special, apparently operation against taiwan, but in my opinion. china will always not run in this case, because i will explain why, because in the case of taiwan. in my opinion. he can enter into this global package deal. by the way, i do not rule out that this rhetoric regarding china is approximately. it boils down to the fact that let's still give you taiwan please, no strategic alliance with russia, there can be no decay. and i think that the americans are overheating this situation and conflict between taiwan. mainland china is quite strongly invented, i remind you that, for example, in the top, the military elite and the military leadership, the

generals of taiwan, in principle, take a pro -chinese position and give politicians. there are statements being made and so on, but this is more of a spectacle or than a reality of real ties between taiwan and the mainland. china means more complex , deep and well-established. than it is even in the personal interpersonal terms. how this will help someone may seem. here is what we see above. now is it more allies than or potentiality? yes, look here that the second picture is a descending nature. you see, this is a passing nature. this is ascending, the nature leaving is more united. and this is coming, yes, that is, the winds are completely different, this is rising. she is still probing her possibilities, and she is also waiting for this one who is leaving, who clings to the old

reality and tries to hold it, and the one who holds it, as you know, loses. that's why here. and here is the lookout. here is caution. it is the restraint of behavior in cold water not to jump there yes, because it is a difficult thing to formulate. yes, the world order, how we will negotiate, so i will not be surprised. if i even talked to you about this topic. as you remember the new ones, yalta and who will sit down, and how does he know? let's take an example? this is a very complex thing. it takes a long time to formulate this. it in itself understand, just here is an example. right now, argentina and iran have filed an application, which means they want to retreat. well let's take argentina, argentina has the world record for defaults nine. you see, it means, yes, the last one was, it seems, in the twentieth year, by the way, a couple of years ago, that is, you understand, such a country enters brik , which means that, accordingly, all these things should be spoken out and thought out. and as a country with such a

situation, or let's say iranism. she's heavily sanctioned. yes, russia is a country you understand very well, yes, even more so. so how are we going to interact. how are these sanctions? again, these countries? everyone not only russia will bypass, how how, that is, you understand, this is a difficult question, so i absolutely agree. it is not something that will spontaneously arise, but it must be done gradually. carefully thought out. they immediately let 's write now. charter. let's now we will do everything around and no one is going to do it right and will not and will not succeed. we will go gradually slowly with breaks for advertising advertising on channel one . dim, i'm here at mts bank. what are you , help me there, so as not to wait? refueled me such a cashback came. sasha is enough. initially

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vladimir putin is meeting with the president of iran ibrahim of russia, i think that these meetings are precisely the meetings that have such a serious perspective. i don't know if we'll know everything about what was discussed there. i believe very important things are being discussed there. and this is the question of who our potential. partners, uh, allies are those with whom we are together, well, we hope that this world will be more just, at least not so unipolar. in terms of dominance. west e dominants. he appointed himself this west, despite the fact that yes, this is the outgoing nature. it will not be fast, neither tomorrow nor the day after tomorrow. and in this sense, you know, here we are talking, here the west means, there they are ukraine, which means western. and here i am looking at the background. that's all this global confrontation. here zelensky zelensky just listen to him. well, we gave a line-by-line there, but it seems to me that everything is clear and visible, the main thing is everything. i

tag myself in another third year teaching at the university. i had forensics, and we included in practice massacres in a folder of rubber bands, criminal evil ones and there you were already just understanding yak mind. are you an alludina, do drugs and have a skinny and persha reaction, when you say what is human and screw tomorrow i will seem not a drug addict, for what you say, a wine addict alcoholic for in hd quality a serious church, says he will tell must and must in detail like this i'm sure you've seen the food before the comparison

and should in detail. and the wines on the food chain he has a learned look. and this is a very telling picture. it is immediately clear that a person here at this level he understands exactly what he is talking about. here, as it were, here he is in the subject and we expose this, this, all this to us, as you know, this one is the enemy of russia, we are all for him. but those who exhibit are also very revealing, please. if putin were a woman, which he obviously isn't, if he were a woman, i really don't think he would start a crazy masculine war of invasion, violence the way he did, if you want the perfect example of toxic masculinity , that's what he's doing now in ukraine you see, if boris johnson was not an idiot, he would never talk nonsense

he spouts leading a country that claims to be what he claims to be, but he spouts it. and this is what you understand, this is from the series we are discussing. here is the west of britain back and forth. and then you think that this is us, so this is a specialist in how to recognize a drug addict, and i don’t know to this one, well, that is, these are the enemies and we assume that we can lose? lord, give us worthy enemies, because if there is a prospect lose to it, then there is something to fight for, but it is not there. the information channel on the first continues its broadcast program. time will tell . lieutenant colonel of the people's militia of the luhansk people's republic andrey vitalyevich hello how is the progress in

lisichansk, how what percentage of the city is under our control? because the fights, as we know, are already going on there, i wish, well, as they say, everything in order. first i would like to tell you information about past 24 hours, two shellings were recorded by the armed forces of ukraine on the territory of the luhansk people's republic, using rocket launchers, american -made m142 havers and bm-21 grad . uh, employees and six employees. uh, got hurt. those who restored, say, cellular communication in this locality. uh, also one person is missing without a trace. here, in principle, in brief, probably, it illustrates the situation that is now developing on the territory of the luhansk people's

republic, e.g., with regards to the conduct of a special military operation. we have, uh, a number of successes, uh, i want to say right away that now, uh, there are, uh, successes in the direction of the lisichansk oil refinery. it is located at some distance from the settlement itself. well, i can also already say that in this locality there are my street soldiers, that is, our military personnel and servicemen of the russian army entered this settlement. i can also note that the main supply arteries are between e, lisichansk and artemovsk. they are already cut are under full. control and but there is, uh, a number of some dirt country roads, uh roads, along which ukrainian servicemen are trying to evacuate, or to flee. eh, that would be more correct. uh, their situation is very unenviable, uh,

the ministry of defense of the russian federation has already published, uh, data on the lugansk oil refinery. there is one of ukrainian prisoners of war says that only 30 people remained from the entire battalion. such a sad fate awaits those who have not laid down their arms and are still trying, uh, to resist, say, our troops. uh, i would also like to note that we have a sufficient number of prisoners of war who talk about the crimes that u commit, say, on the territory of ukraine. u i don’t know technically . i know you have. one of the prisoners of war and this is technically possible, now we will find out while telling. uh, now ready. this, uh, given prisoner of war, he is an israeli citizen, and here, of course, it would be better

to hear and see once. eh, than to talk about it all, he says absolutely terrible things. e, for example, that they are, in principle, caught. there, in general, indiscriminately, he is an israeli citizen despite this his right on the border. he tried to evacuate from ukraine e. his family, let's say, was mobilized and sent to the conflict zone, and moreover, he talks about the real state of things. big some of them never served in their lives, never held weapons in their hands, but at the same time, they were immediately sent, as they say, to the very front line. the weapons that the government of ukraine claims that they are being delivered to ukraine may be delivered somewhere, but they saw single copies that they did not even know how to use. this is about the combat readiness, let's say, of some units that are

right now in the lisichanskaya severodonetsk agglomeration. now our troops are crushing let's say those military personnel who are from severodonetsk in the direction of severodonetsk. e. we have the entire right bank under our control. uh, also in some areas of the terrain we press down closing the ring around. eh, lisichanska. uh, well, planned combat work is underway. eh, success and obviously we have already entrenched on some. e, let's say bridgeheads e, occupied some dominant heights, which allow us to say that e operation will develop. and quickly quickly, but here again, it is not necessary to engage in capping, because. ah, the last fight. it is the most difficult here in lisichansk, a huge number of e-nationalist -minded radicals, ukrainian militants, have accumulated. uh,

resist y y they do absolutely terrible things. including they remotely e, mine. uh, the area around uh, lisichansk and the suburbs of lisichansk, uh, prohibited anti-personnel mines, the so-called petal. eh, moreover, this is all accompanied by information stuffing. uh, because. uh, the so-called local gauleiter declares that we are allegedly minimizing. ah, the area. and so, uh, let's say we're violating every convention possible, how can the military tell you that, well, that sounds crazy, because uh, absolutely everything. technicians, and so such strategies of military craft, never advancing forces defeat the terrain in front of them. that is, they create a mine barrier especially for themselves. this is generally obvious. it should be. but

uh, at the same time, uh, those people who are not aware, uh, in such nuances and subtleties, they really believe in what we apply cluster munitions, which, moreover, are prohibited in the hospitals of the city of lisichansk, a huge number of media people already have explosive injuries that were blown up by these anti-personnel mines, but the situation is really very difficult and humanitarianly difficult, and now ukrainian militants are deprived, who have lost , uh, the delivery of provisions. they literally crumble. there are the remnants of provisions that civilians have. uh, in principle, the situation in the city, uh, is very complicated. thank you very much andrey viktorovich a couple with us in direct contact. we hope tomorrow you will tell us in more detail about lisichansk and tell us which part of the city is controlled by our allied troops, and now let's break for a short advertisement, don't switch. further it will be interesting. you have

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get the most effective protection against spam and the machine. he is so alone, we switch to donetsk with us in direct contact with this city, the commissioner for human rights. in the donetsk people's republic daria vasilievna morozova daria hello knowing that you managed to communicate with representatives of the un monitoring mission and how did they surprise you? yes, good afternoon. really. we had our first working meeting with the head of the mission yesterday. he is a matildogner in ukraine. this is the first meeting since the beginning of the special military operation. we managed to discuss the current situation in the donetsk people's republic with her. i informed her that almost every day the city of donetsk and other nearby cities are being fired at, and this happens in a chaotic mode. eh, without any general understanding, because no, no military installations nothing was very surprised. why don't

i hear a reaction from them, let's say about the shelling of our maternity hospital named after vishnevsky although here in the city of mariupol yes, let us recall when they fired, supposedly there was a maternity hospital. such a panic on their part was a proper reaction, but, unfortunately, so far, in our situation, we have not seen comments on these remarks either, in fact, these remarks are not new for her at the beginning of a special military operation. i wrote about 80 letters, and to this instance he is on human rights, but, unfortunately, there was no feedback. i, naturally. i asked yesterday why this situation is happening? what was the answer to what? well, it goes without saying we take note of this information, but as we would like, naturally feedback, because i do not understand. i don't understand which letters reach and which don't. and again, there should be a report today. e for the last quarter. uh, from the western side, the

last six months from the un side, and as i understand it, after that we will already see that answered. we did not have this organization at all by video link. yes, they want to come to donetsk. they saw everything with their own eyes. we discussed this point, that is, at the moment we have notified them anyway that we want to show them all this. we wouldn't mind. well , then there are already logistical issues and we will already discuss, that is, we are waiting for an official appeal from them. i think that they could, of course, be taken to mariupol and show the drama theater and see for themselves what happened there and that maternity hospital show, and most importantly, in the districts of donetsk where there is no infrastructure for them to answer, but in general, here are your inner feelings from a conversation with them. well , anyway, well, i'll tell you, the next one can watch the presentation for today's report on rights in ukraine and i'm already, as it

were, certain of her phrase is already like this. to put it mildly, concern, therefore , of course, i would like to see the text and it would be very interesting to see how they describe, uh international human rights organizations of the united nations, those events on which you were absolutely right. they don't attend. i wish you patience, because you can imagine how it is to communicate, sort of like with a person, sort of, when for a living woman, but at the same time, who refuses to hear and see some completely objective things. thank you very much daria vasilievna morozova is in direct contact with us. we are not leaving donetsk, we have a direct line of communication andrey vasilyevich , a military lieutenant colonel of the people's militia. dnr andrey hello. what is the latest information that shelling is taking place in donetsk, can there be new information from the very monitoring mission to throw up, which they say they take note of and that's it. hello ruslan sorry, i can not time to give you and other people who

sympathize. yes, there is no people's republic of donbass. in general, shelling continues. unfortunately , the ripe esotericism of a large caliber continues , and the jet system is also used. but the curtains, including the reactive systems of the zapovogo. large caliber fire is a hurricane system, artillery is used, either 152 mm, 155 mm. mostly today. uh, most of all, a hayish makeevka and the district hills are being shelled. areas also continue to be shelled. uh, prefrontal areas. donetsk is a district, kuibyshevsky district, kirovsky district. petrovsky e-e also recorded separate shelling in the south from artillery of 122 mm caliber, and changes to either 120 mm. in general, of course, there is a slight decrease in the amount of ammunition. that is, if previously there more than 400, uh, units

of large-caliber ammunition were produced per day, in the direction of starting points in the donbass, that is, well, in recent days we have been fixing in the area from 200 to 285 and only large-caliber ammunition in this way. some decrease. there is, of course, however, the shelling continues anyway, and anyway, well, it ’s impossible to say that there is some kind of significant turning point in this part . to donetsk we haven’t arrived yet, because you said the hurricane is hitting, and the khaimar is here in lugansk for us in the lugansk people’s republic by e, their territory is a civil byud, and in the dpr if the blows are haims. so it’s precisely the direction of lugansk that there are already confirmed facts of the use of high-profile rocket systems delivered by the west about the direction of donetsk. well, the last days the rocket-firing system has traditionally been working,

grad is 122 mm and the rocket system is 2.5 hurricane. produced from 10 rocket hailstones. well the hurricanes usually releases, there are 2-5 missiles. uh, in the direction of large settlements there. uh, by uh, west-delivered rocket fire systems uh, in the direction. donetsk so far, that i cannot confirm these facts, it is necessary to additionally, let's say, uh, work out this issue in the direction of luhansk yes, indeed, such questions, such moments have already been recorded. thank you very much andrey vasilyevich boevsky is in direct contact with us, lieutenant colonel of the people's militia of the dpr let's discuss alexey petrovich here is foreign weapons, which are so, uh, reverent. requires zelensky was delivered, they showed active use literally within 5 days and now they have stopped. at the same time, the western press writes that the vaunted american weapons. those very three sevens howitzers are not showing themselves in the best

way and are now in service, according to the american press. no more than 30% of what was delivered, the rest were either destroyed or under repair. what is it connected with? this is due to the fact that the west did not particularly plan to supply high-quality weapons to ukraine, but because the weapons that are not supplied and was most suitable for us for colonial wars, where there is intensity. uh, combat use is not that high. here we see that uh, powerful, but artillery duels are going on. uh, counter-battery combat, when you need to use these weapons very intensively . e, that is e enter. uh, hmm, you can say hours of shelling, and it turns out that foreign technology is failing, but not only foreign technology is failing, but this training program, which, uh, the americans and their allies there carried out with these calculations. and yet at

they have a training program that takes several months and was trained on accelerated courses, but in order to how long the program should go normal, even fast how long it was, but german howitzers. this is the curriculum. this self-propelled artillery mount was supposed to take about six months to prepare. and this is how they have it in the army, but they trained ukrainian specialists. in 36 hours, it’s not clear that these 36 hours are a lot. you don't prepare you teach how to unfold? how to roll like charge? how to aim, but will provide, for example, fire support, and the troops of ukraine who constantly complain that this is fire support. no, they can't, so they use it

. the offensive process from our allied army, it has accelerated has accelerated. and this fire resistance is fire duels. we win more often and our fire support breaks their defenses, therefore, this bet on uh, uh, is frankly a war crime. it loses its value, but at

the same time it must be understood that a part of military equipment, of course, it breaks down there, but some of it still settles in other places and we will ask the commander of the special forces akhmat drunk nachal vuddinov from us on a direct line, how will he comment? hello aronic. uh, how do you rate the quality of western military equipment supplied to the ukrainian nazis? good afternoon ruslan but we have already expressed ourselves more than once about this military equipment. i will tell you that, firstly, we must understand that ukraine is supplied with all the junk that has been lying around for a long time in this entire nato bloc in all these countries that wish so well for this ukraine, and therefore they send everything there that is old, which, in principle, is no longer suitable for anything. this time. so, the second thing to note is that this equipment is weapons that

are sent from there in order to be able to use them. people must undergo special training, and in the conditions of hostilities, when all this scrap metal is thrown there. in principle, there are very few people who know how to handle it, so we can say that, in principle, from this hmm, all weapons there are a total, in principle such. zero can be said to be an activated person, where akhmat special forces are now performing tasks, this is severodonetsk, or this is already lisichansk, or maybe we have already gone further. at the moment, it turns out that we are already, uh, well, in principle, around the north of danetsk, in total, together with units, and the second corps of the lpr of the russian ministry of defense so it turns out. we are now already engaged in lisichansk itself, already directly in lisichansk . here is what we were told that the battles are taking place directly in the city, this includes special forces

ahmad is there. no no, it's not true, the fighting is going on in the suburbs or now, and around it, of course. this is an important clarification, because there is a lot of speculation on this topic. we still need to be as objective as possible, and a lot of information comes in that the nazis are throwing the so -called therodefense in front of them, and they themselves are moving away in the direction of seversk, including foreign mercenaries and they say there are about 200 polish mercenaries there. can you comment on this to confirm or deny? i am i can say that for all this time of hostilities. here's what time it is. i am here , where it always smelled of fried, this tetraborate and all these vaunted troops of theirs, which we, as they say, are driving all over ukraine, all over the donbas, have always been thrown there. they essentially always ran away, leaving them for a place

of cannon fodder. and in essence, we fix here that messi's poles are here, we fix foreigners. well, as soon as we get to them. i don’t know what we are, uh, we immediately send them in a bandel, and i will say so. they run very fast, leaving in front of them. here are these poor, disabled men, whom they collect all over ukraine, and yesterday, you probably did not read the western press. there it is called a professional tactical retreat. but you know, i 'll answer this question in this way, read the entire western press. i don't have time for this, but for myself i'll say, uh, the rhetoric of, uh, the opposite side. so, if you remember step by step, it turned out such a picture that we have all the time, uh, we are artificial in order to block and counterattack, they

launched into the north of donetsk, then we were counterattacked all the time on the pages of a magazine on the internet, which means that in the end it turned out such a picture that we, in one jerk, when we captured the north itself, donetsk then exactly the same as says. uh, having made such a maneuver that it was possible to pull out alive the civilians who are on the territory of the industrial zone, when we squeezed this industrial zone and with one jerk, it also occupied it turned out to be such a picture, what turns out to be guided? ukraine gave the command to ensure that someone retreated from there, in fact. i'll tell you this. they resist to the last, they throw the last moment of terror in front of us in order to keep us with them, then in the end it turns out that they did not hold back our onslaught, as they say, they run away and in the end it already looks like, uh, exactly the name specially

invented special operation, which will soon bring them to kiev and praise the almighty that they do n’t have enough brains for anything else, and in the first us a new point on the map appears interesting, which many people say seversk - this is west of lisichansk, where those very foreign ukrainian nazi mercenaries retreat - this is the place where they cook. a new line of defense or is it just a staging post, what do you think? you know, well, here i can recommend you one thing at all, do not react to these new points on these new lines of defense of theirs. actually. i'll tell you this. uh, they can regroup wherever he wants, as much as he wants, we who moved today with places in such a way that she began to grind. as they say, all these three mercenaries are theirs,

and that's it. it's put together and can't be stopped. nothing. that is, it will essentially be another next step, where, as they say, we will step over and go again. then we have no reason to worry that we might be detained somewhere or that we might have some kind of snag, if you remember, severodonetsk was told that this would be the second azov steel, that this is the second mariupol will be zelensky himself he said that severodonetsk was deciding the fate of donbass, that is, uh, in essence, they can call new cities to roll back to them. and we will just go and grind everything that is in front of us until our enemy says that he is surrendering. so it doesn’t matter to us at all, your calmness is conveyed to all our viewers, first of all , a big request from us, if one of the foreign mercenaries, then suddenly be captured by you voluntarily, but wants to say to the camera that

ahmad strength. russia mighty donbass is invincible. please send us this video, because i think they already know all this. thank you very much aronov was with us about the body. surprising body start. dina was in direct contact with us, the commander of the legendary i can already safely say so, the commander of the special forces akhmat sergey severodonetsk chernovich, correctly said he was called zelensky as the place where the fate of donbass is decided and for some reason abruptly forgot about him. well, because it is unprofitable to speak from a propaganda point of view about those obvious defeats that can no longer be imagined as a victory, well, you see, when when there is black there is white, it is impossible to swap them . that's it, and only if you're talking to total blind people, we underestimate them they can nonetheless. well, you understand, well, when we talk hmm, but about the same arms deliveries, and here mr. leonkov explained in great detail, we analyzed all the publications, but i pay attention to the fact that this story has everything

besides, actually tactical -technical characteristics, in addition to the military component, there is two key components are advocacy and political and here we are asking a question here. how is it that the wrong weapon shoots the wrong way, it can’t do anything. why so stubbornly, yes, and at the same time, at the expert level, at the media level, some critical voices break through even in the west. why doesn't he see it point-blank? why does the black and white chorga change places and here, if we pull this thread, then here a whole chain of meanings is revealed one after another, look, but there is this one the reality that we have been discussing now, yes, the dynamics of hostilities and so on and a completely different reality. and uh, zelensky’s speech at the nato summit in general, everything that was said around ukraine, how many times the defeat of russia was heard there, still sounds, right? that is, you understand, here are these chains of meanings? that is, if we say, if they imagine that the defeat of russia is not easy, perhaps, maybe

even inevitable, then you can’t question that, you understand everything, then need to continue. they have already burned bridges for themselves , you understand, they have burned bridges for themselves, they need to go to the end, so there is such a cynical calculation that this is fire and inertia. it will still take some time. and during this time they will be able to say so. here well, you know, they can't make this time offer. discuss in this studio anatoly kuzichev olesya loseva, together with our experts, continues the nato summit in madrid, which is more like a trial, where russia has been appointed the main accused nato summit adopted a new strategic concept of alliances, which russia called the main security threat. and it is against this background that a statement is made. e that peace in europe is possible only

after the complete defeat of russia and for this every european. you have to make your own contribution. this is the call made by elizabeth trass, the british foreign secretary it is very important to ensure the defeat of russia in ukraine, this is important for the existence of the security of freedom and democracy in europe and this is the only way that we can achieve a lasting peace in europe, some say that there is a possibility of negotiations. while russian troops are still in ukraine, i think that this will give us a false peace and lead to further aggression in the future. we must learn the lessons of the past minsk protocol. unable to establish a lasting peace in europe, i insist that you first need to defeat russia and then negotiate. i will not even dwell on a large number of logical inconsistencies, first win, and then if negotiations question why uh-huh. you know, in the forty- fifth year we were convinced of such things. now we will negotiate. this is nonsense. no michael's new intonation. elizabeth track. she, as it were, leads to some reflection, and you her dream of

complete defeat. i think it's too far- fetched dream, because a complete defeat - it 's like a return to the status of qual before 24. it 's not bad. they are a complete failure. what is this compromise? it's this and the macron to talk about it, that you still need to give the territory of some kind of ukraine it is necessary, but some, that is, that some part of ukraine is given to russia, this is called the incomplete defeat of russia, but it sounds very good, of course, this is, well, what is it that you understand in his politics now? i don’t like it, ukraine is so patient because it’s not fair. of course, this is aggression, of course, but for that i call the sour relic a relic. this is impossible, the offense of the enemy is the aggressor, so the most important thing is to reduce the loss to the fireplace. here, i understand you friends, everyone

agrees with this. sorry, please add. yes, in the peacemaker immediately after that, such monstrous statements. yes, friends, how does everyone agree with such an interpretation with such an interpretation of words. elizabeth runs and prospects, so to speak, russia in ukraine because it seems to me, well, i don't know, perhaps, really, so to speak, a good mine with a well- known game. maybe, or maybe, the intention is true, maybe everyone understands this semyonov, please. yes what that the outcome is predetermined? no, it's not predetermined. i believe that this phrase is a complete defeat. maybe, better in a very different sense. and now we are already seeing a discussion that is starting and practically all other controversial actions around the kaliningrad region. e. well for e. western partners, er territories with russia it is quite probable that yes, i suppose an exchange of such a kind that there may be the emergence of new points of tension and under complete defeat. perhaps, understood,

we have a variety of configurations for solving these problems, and the kuriles around which the second world war does not calm down. we have a dispute, uh, a different look, of course there are different views on the russian estonian border and so on. that's why it's a complete defeat. and this is not specified, yet. eh, the concept of and it is likely that something else will be put into it. well, coming out interesting is ukraine's notion of disputed territory. now everyone is investing. well, it has its own meaning. it is enough to listen to the statement of the deputy of the lithuanian mathos maldikis, here. what post he published on twitter in response to russia's claims regarding kaliningrad and demand full access to traditional lithuanian lands smolenskaya through this land corridor, # smolensk is lithuania, send to some kind of

polyansky peace treaty of 1934. for god's sake do n't be in a hurry. i think it does n't really matter at all. as strange as it sounds. here is the very essence of this agreement to study does not matter at all. he said it wasn't because the treaty mattered. it wasn't because it was such a challenge at all. it was such a challenge. it was a spit in the direction of russia, it was it was such a formula that guys, but seriously, you yourself are strong feel? well, here's to you from the lithuanian parliament hi. we convey you understand, mocking absolutely boorish and, but, apparently, apparently, someone is standing behind him or what? or what, that's why there are these stories here? yes, but because , nevertheless, a certain uncertainty and a certain illusion still remain. the idea among those who have gathered today in madryn that perhaps some sort of defeat of russia. you spoke about potential points. yes, these tensions, you can talk about it, but, but i

i think that we must agree that the situation around ukraine remains at the center of this confrontation, let's put it simply, and the ukrainian situation is the one that pulls all these wagons. it will come off the rail. these are all the stories that are being thought, because it will be clear. what well, it doesn't work. do you understand? found a scythe on a stone. look here . please tell me, then it will be sharp, if you definitely do not let it be impossible to lie. wherever it is, it does not know, so to speak, not i understand that we did not represent the opponents' plans correctly, correctly. therefore, let's proceed from this, as one of our experts did yesterday. exquisitely expressed. let's get into the slippers of nato, let's try to exile from the point of view, that is, try to understand, and so on, so let's get into the slippers of nato and try to understand why they are? a lithuanian deputy and absolutely, well, it’s clear what it is that demar in such a boorish manner with an emphatically

boorish manner presents some kind of agreement, and we can still revise the borders for this. if anything, lithuania still exists visibility. you understand this in amazement and other things, right? here we can, if you can understand something, of course, yes. how are you. how do you understand? here, uh, this is an aggravation. and why nato or maybe not? maybe this personal madness of lithuania is being exacerbated, but still i think it’s not lithuania there. no , of course, this cannot be an initiative exclusively of lithuania, but the thing is that no one can formulate anything specific from the words of the defeat of russia , as always, all wording. uh, drown in conversations, eh around the bush in some kind of tolerance in some kind of western culture of dialogue and so on. prompt us intolerant defeat. yes, not a complete defeat of russia is the return of the borders of january 14. this is an incomplete paralysis of russia and the complete liberation of ukrainian

territories, including donetsk and lugansk, and crimea. and here is the liberation there too. yes, but the most in liberation. in a sense, on the contrary, wait, and you call the return of the crimea donetsk luhansk incomplete. i don't remember the name. yes, what is the complete defeat of russia is, uh, the deprivation of its nuclear potential, the dismantling of its nuclear potential. so, respectively. this may seem to not know. how else only the reduction of external control. so, accordingly, the territorial-administrative layout of the current russian federation will start from kaliningrad or from what other regions it is still impossible to assume. this is the plan. this is a complete defeat. this is the plan. on this meant, is it a plan and is aware of the whole daunting task, well, in nato in washington, there and so on. i am

i don’t know, because when i talked to them about it, i was long before the pandemic. here they are talking about the fact that yes, it’s not clear what to do with this nuclear potential. and all of a sudden it pops up. and how to organize it all. and who will manage it? and who will be responsible for all this and so on. i mean, they don't have a plan. and i spoke, of course, not with politicians, but with experts like this, if this is not in the heads of experts, then all the more it is not in the heads of politicians, but in general the situation is like this god hodovka, as many hodovkas like now, but in fact everything is simpler. here is such a two-way. i don’t understand, yes, well, they said the question, you know, you know how we will win, bears look at the first nikolaevich so you bring him down to the ground. here i finish off saying, because the blame says so, well, it is. another tech questioning denuclearization, well, it sounds okay, and how do you do it, in 1991, no in

1991, 92. i think that such a chance existed now to no avail assess the situation. moreover, neither you nor we have a time machine, therefore, therefore, we will consider this plan to be poorly implemented. although, although, let's call it a dream. it doesn't really fit into the plans. all here are a number of circumstances, because they live. yes, so far there are no prerequisites even for the defeat of russia and the territory of ukraine by military defeat. further, as for the political moral defeat, then from my point of view. well, it has already come and there is nothing to discuss. well, there is just something to discuss, because that you suffer defeat in front of someone you know from someone a moral defeat. oh, and the term of leadership in the russian federation is completely different ideas about what is the world, and what rules the public opinion of the world. but now i see a lot of publications that there are

how many, lord, 7.5, there are billions of people yes, and so on, and 770 e millions this is how it is from my point of view of humanity. it's these 770 million opinions that you can prenet, understand? billion yes, here alexander nikolaevich, you yourself have stepped on a slippery slope, so to speak, e, as it were, which will lead you more steps and just to outright nazism, so i suggest that we, at least, not go to the studio, because people who can be neglected more or less stop. well her. well, do not go gifts. it’s interesting here, wait, but as for the claims of lithuania yes, er, they say russian territories, well, historically. let us return the territories over there, smolensk, that means the smolensk regions and so on, maybe they come from, uh, that plan, what do we mean, now we will make requests for land as much as possible, so that later at the moment of bargaining, and flow, so to speak, kaliningrad yes,

what am i talking about, well, today we tirelessly say that this topic is number one. yes, we will make more applications to us. let it be stupid enough in exchange for the south-east of ukraine, but it’s quite possible, i don’t know everything then these statements sound. leningrad is clear. whatever sounds, it sounds insulting , it sounds pakhansky, it is also ridiculous and phantasmagoric, and so on, but you need to understand that you, of course, is not the goal, kaliningrad is not the goal. this is a kind of means of a means of some more grandiose, as alexander nikolaevich puts it, a more extensive, more serious plan, you understand. and how do you understand it? i understand very simply the task of great britain and also the united states is to drag russia into a long and tough confrontation as long as possible, but in order for this task to be solved. e partners, doubting partners in nato in e, the european

union should be backed up against the wall they do not there should be no way to jump off this story. that is why unrealistic slogans sound in advance that the goal is to ensure a crushing defeat of russia there. great britain understands that this cannot be done , but when such a goal is stated, then intermediate options are there, like some world, they are immediately declared unacceptable or, as he says, well, yes, boris jones - this is a crappy world that must be discarded immediately as an option, so the countries of western europe must constantly get involved. here in this confrontation with russia , they should not even have any options there to talk about the topic there, uh, the approaching winter of economic collapse. is it necessary to dismantle, let's say, economic relations with russia so hard when this leads to the most difficult economic consequences of the european union, they are immediately beaten by this story, which means, uh, there is, uh, a

cruel war. uh, from the other side we are opposed. the barbarians there are really some sort of collapse in europe. well, you know, i'm not a supporter in order to immediately draw such quick conclusions, as many say, that they will not survive there, there, and so on. well, it is absolutely obvious that the de- industrialization of the european union is taking place, that many industries will be, well, really put on the brink of survival. this also applies to the chemistry of metallurgy in a number of other branches. er, of course, the european union has a margin of safety. i'm not at all pre-considered in the category, what do they want to create? yes, they think that we have already collapsed completely. so if we too we will assume that they will not survive one winter. we will also make a mistake. but the consequences are extremely severe for the economy and for the population. this is an obvious fact. these european statistics reflect and it is foolish to argue with this even in this situation, when germany begins to think there about, uh, how to replace 50 billion cubic meters of russian

gas, they tell her. and what are you discussing now is not up to it. now the fate of europe is being decided and our values. yes, they didn’t jump off the countries of western europe for greater persuasiveness, which means from pandora's box got the links made the following statement. question who is next for russia moldova or the baltic countries or poland answer all these countries we need about 5 billion dollars a month you know that? this is what is necessary for defense and protection, and we need to reconsider the understanding of the eastern flank of nato, getting rid of the gray zone, security can only be guaranteed together with ukraine, and indeed, it was sent to moldova or countries, by the way. i'll come up with or finland that as soon as moldova received the status of member candidates, first of all, moldova was told that it needed to join the

european union sanctions, and now and there already some officials said there was nothing to do, and then when the pride now starts a discussion within moldova, after all, and some say, the guys don’t, where are we getting into. what are the sanctions against russia and us? if lithuania is still, probably, there in ukraine they will throw these billions, then in moldova no one will throw them, but in fact, but on mine. of course, that's pretty. this is a rhetorical error my opinion. i don’t know if they will pay attention to it, because this formula means you ask who is next for russia and i will answer you , all this just sounds frankly stupid. no, yes, that uh aleksandrovich i beg your pardon for the main train of thought, yes, stoltenberg's statement. e statement. well, i don’t think that it requires such a serious reflection, but to dwell on it is probably worth the conflict in ukraine, he said, it will end at the negotiating table. it is clear that any such conflicts always end at the table . negotiations, but stoltenberg is sure that everything must

end, but in the conditions of ukraine, the point is, well, i want it at the negotiating table. yes, i remember, you know, from the old joke, woody allen says your fellow countryman. it was a colossal prophecy, that is, the piercing forces of the two armies would come together in war. or only one of them will win. yes, this is a prophecy of colossal power. hmm end up at the drinking table, bro. sorry we know that. we would like to understand, so to speak, how when you move the table, when you stop to force these people to die so that they sow already, finally, they have at least signed something. although i remember the price, so to speak, of a ukrainian signature on any document, it is clear that, uh, the price is a penny or a hryvnia, which is getting cheaper and cheaper. yes , sergey, what is interesting here? and here we are, and here we are being ironic, we understand, so to speak, the price of this statement by stoltenberg. but i would be interested. eh, i, time is running fast, and taking into account the fact that the situation is changing with telescopic speed, let's see when the next one will be

nato summit, he comes once a year. yes, it’s happening with us, yes, that’s what will happen to president zelensky, who is now saying this, yes, what will happen to the alleged victory of ukraine yes , to the world on ukraine’s terms, and how then it will be necessary to get out. i don't know how to change shoes in the air and come up with some other things to somehow illuminate. wait yet invented before us say what they say, they say, here you go, and you told us our humiliatingly small budget led to these disastrous results. so they are all conditions long-range conditions to think yes about yes but about the defeat of russia and despite the fact that it would turn out to be stupid, but here it is important that there is no time frame. that is, you understand, this is how the soviet people will live under communism, and the people in the west will live with the defeat of russia, and now a strategy is being adopted for 10 years. pressure to pray waiting for defeat. if so good. sorry , everything is very urgent today, but the series decided to recognize

the independence and sovereignty of the dpr and lpr, our foreign ministry reports. clearly, we are returning. let's go back. again can i have the old words no, no, but i don’t remember it that way, but there’s no feeling that it’s contradictory , as if i have a feeling that if someone got into some kind of crazy house on the outskirts, fortunately, that is, uh, it means , some say no tables no negotiations, only war. only the victory of another from the same gang in general, in theory , comes out and says, friends, in general, i must tell you that everything ended at the negotiating table, the third one. and so on, what's going on is not counteracting one another you me please today. excuse me, she's just in this, uh, seated on the road, yesterday's conversation of olaf the bean fits very well. watching at the g7 summit with a german journalist. the g7 promised ukraine security guarantees after the war. could you specify what kind of guarantee this is? it’s

just that i won’t even talk about state leaders alexander nikolayevich. you are a fan of germany in the broad sense of the word, how little it is absent, this does not contradict. that's this and that to each other that's what i call uh a situation where there is money, but the brains and determination of the political will. no, why there are no brains, then there are no brains, because, uh, the sanction regime that is being introduced today does not actually lead to a solution to the problem. and in any way that you described? in no way

through sanctions, with the determination which must be given credit, the government of the russian federation has a. no, uh, it doesn't work, so if they think that the deteriorating standard of living of 20% of the urban population is so of the so-called middle class will lead to some kind of performances by a change of power, then this is not so if they think that the russian government will listen to the interests of these 20%. then this is also not the case, so what they do. this is absolutely unjustified. so why is there no will? well willingly, no. strictly speaking, because at what pace and how it happens. uh, military assistance to ukraine because the reason for the manifestation. well, as the reason for the manifestation , the fact is that they are afraid of their german friends,

and not, so to speak, from political circles that you have they talk and they think, they say, and they think only one thing they are afraid of being involved in a war. that is, they are afraid to build. of course, if they close the sky over ukraine and start shooting down russian military aircraft, then they are afraid of a bomb coming from russia. yes, they are afraid. here are your friends along with them afraid of their government. these are germans. in this case, it is correct to say that zelensky zelensky, in principle, voices quite correct things, because repeatedly both in the studio and in them in the studio, and i heard the statement that in russia at any moment it can strike more than 2. in poland, there, for anyone, in fact, for anyone, and today. i believe that the

conflicts of the russian is watching our program, they hear the statement in the studio runs, so at the summit, the guys say this heard. you won't believe it, wow. you will die, no, it means that he is going to hit you in the face with statements that experts know perfectly well, on the contrary, i will not name the names of these statements because of the deputies of the state duma , the situation was prepared in exactly the same way twenty fourth of february. that's how it sounded for a long time decided on the suffering further in lithuania, in finland or in bulgaria, i do not presume to say for whom who is what is called, but the fact that a conflict between russia is more than likely. and what is this conflict? why it will happen is not clear on the initiative of russia in this, i am absolutely convinced that i understood, if transit to kaliningrad or a creature is covered up - this makes a conflict through the fault of russia that is,

if they are connected, let's discuss the logic already. yes, here or on the territory of lithuania, then this will be a conflict over russia's initiative whoever, whatever the provoked conflict says. no, it's important. it is important your anatolia, point of view, and we have one meaning conflict. uh, it was also provoked with ukraine, and the fact that ukraine, from the point of view of alexander nikolayevich, is your team. is not it so. this is absolutely not motivated, please. well, when they talk about doing something to russia, it reminds me of such a thing that they flew off a crow to separate the skin of a bear that was not killed. of course, there are different versions of how she will be defeated, how she disarmed and the feeling that they absolutely believes that russia is not a subject, that is, well, without his demand. they all agreed there the skin, not

the killed bear is excellent, at the same time. and when they say that russia will attack someone and deliver the first nuclear strike, this is to say that they do not know our documents, in which we have the defense doctrine. there is a policy framework for the use of nuclear weapons, where everything is clearly spelled out, and we act within the framework of our legislation. this is one, and the second, of course, this is a bunch that is now called there the madrid summit and the conflict in ukraine is a very unfortunate combination in order to unite europe around the task that was set even before the start of a special military operation. it was delivered for uh by the customers of this strategy, which was portrayed by young stonetenberg - it was supposed to appear as a single monolithic, a military-political bloc well, yes, which would be transnational. therefore, the rules for admission to the nato bloc must be changed, the fifth article of nato has been changed, and the national sovereignty of states

at the same time, it ceases, because there is euro-atlantic security, for the sake of which everyone should take it under the hood. you are great. think about the next, so to speak, part of our program michael the only offhand. do you remember how it will be in english to divide the skin of an unkilled bear ? erdogan signs an agreement with finland and sweden and tells them his yes to join. yes, in the meantime the press secretary, literally 2 days ago, said the following. it was assumed that when the cold war ended, such a picture would emerge in the new world order at the top of the pyramid there is a superpower under it 5-6 great powers russia china england france germany below the middle

-sized country over time, the whale economically quickly rose to the top of the pyramid. it suddenly became the second largest economy in the world. russia has questioned this pyramid, both geostrategic and military, russia said that after 30 years. we should conclude a new agreement on the balance of the country, who wanted to suppress those who dreamed of rising from below declared, then we will go on the path of conflict. it will never legitimize russia's invasion of ukraine. but judging by what has happened over the past 30 years, there must be a cause-and -effect relationship. we also object to such an unfair order. here's to my taste. hmm, it’s just, well, amazingly sound, and the reasoning and what is amazing because, of course, in our time, except from russia, yes, you reasoning is hard to hear. well, from ours. in particular, now let's talk with turkey on this occasion with us in direct contact with the representative of the bureau of international relations of the watan hussein party erman hussein hello , thank you for coming to us. invited. yes, tell me,

please, why is this how you understand it? why turkey lifted its veto, its categorical opposition to the entry of sweden into nato in finland let's take a look. um, why did turkey drive? it's it's originally. yes, the first goal is to remove this is to limit the interaction of these countries with organizations. and the third thing we must not forget is that against the backdrop of hyperinflation in turkey, there are economic problems. e rdgun. we need to fix the ratings before next year's elections. eh, we see that his rating is already at the moment not eh, it helps him to overthink and indeed today yesterday's memorandum. eh, signed. uh, the turkish media, uh, so, uh, how clearly the

diplomatic victory of erdogan, how am i on the heat carrier of the victory from the president of turkey that sweden finland made concessions and thus this fully uh, all targeted. for a fix. well, as for the ratings. uh, i think everyone understands, uh, but we need to figure it out separately. that's what's going on, uh with limited u interaction with theoretical organizations and uh about taking down the emp. so we know that historically. why does turkey already have experience? here greece in the seventies withdrew from nato and then, when she wanted to buy turkey first uh? well, i’ve limited their acceptance, too, we’ll impose, guys. we need to receive greece back. well, the united states somehow sold out, after all, that moment and erdogan uh here is hussein i'm sorry for interrupting you just look at us. well, but deep in the

ups and downs, so to speak, e here of turkish politics to plunge, well, it’s simply impossible, because you need to study too much context for this to understand what it is about and so on. we, if you do not mind, let's, here, how would we understand the general principle of the general general plot. well, look fundamentally, turkey had a number of fundamental considerations. it is clear there. and there were f-35s there. probably, it is necessary to list through a comma and there all and most importantly, that the workers of the kurdistan party and the kurds, who were supported there by sweden and finland and now it turns out they do not support. actually , the discussion in our studio today was in such, perhaps simplified, but nevertheless terms, who pushed whom, or so to speak, pushed the irdogan on this and stagnated him at this important moment. recall your veta to join finland and sweden, or this turkey has pushed everyone through. indeed, as you put it, erdogan's brilliant diplomatic victory and got what wanted to receive responsible finland and

condemnation and the possibility of 33 notorious. this is what turkey is called terrorists, extradition and in the 35th program and everything else, who wins? i will not say who pushed through. we need to take into account. it is indeed sweden and finland, uh, that have made concessions, that is, they and the workers' parties are represented, that is, they have confirmed that they recognize themselves as organizations. and what was important for turkey, uh, was the definition of their organization in syria and finland, sweden promised not to cooperate, but the only thing to consider is that it is possible tactically. how is it that the strategic victory was won there, we understand that in syria, for the workers' parties of kurdistan and for its offshoots of the united states, they still officially budget a billion dollars, and slide to these organizations, that is, strategically for turkey, this is a clear mistake, because well, yes,

finland sweden is not the biggest uh, in terms of the state will not support yes according to this memorandum, but the united states of america the main members of nato support none with them. pandu was not on this occasion, this is the principle erdogan. e was wrong. in my opinion, because yes, tactical yes, finland-sweden, recognition - this is a victory for one day, but the strategic expansion of nato - this is not included, uh, in any uh, let's say, no benefit, much less brings, because they continue to support the two microscopic americans, so to speak, the states withdrew, so to speak, renounced and issued, and most importantly, the sponsor. so to speak, i remain on my own, i understood your thoughts only directly from him in one phrase. tell hussain a lot of resources. uh, people the public shares a similar approach, that this tactical can be a victory but strategic

mistakes. it is absolutely true that the majority of the population was behind erdogan when he said that he was, well, unacceptable. this is our categorical decision, as long as it does not support terrorists. and in this he actually raised his rating a lot more. eh, it's obvious to everyone than when this memran was signed understood? understood, thank you very much hussein eman. a representative of the bureau of international relations was in direct contact with us. uh, the turkish party vatan tatyana semyonovna, well, it's not even a matter of terms, who pushed whom? although this is terrible, of course, it is interesting, but about the strategic strategic benefits. for each side. moreover , under one of the sides of this whole complex, so to speak, uh, to a tangle of interest, i mean russia and in the strategic sense in the strategic sense. over the past many years, we have probably been observing these turkish gambits for the past many years, or even fifteen, as we have expressed, and behind them there is, uh, certain logic behind these movements, namely, they want to be friends with russia,

and they do not want russia to remain strong, their only partner, and therefore, it seems to me, there is still a secret meaning in the removal of this century, and this meaning lies precisely in the fact that e i will scatter injections so that this bear does not sleep and understands that injections. and what kind of injections is the expansion of nato due to these two against not very large states, the approach of the borders of the expansion of the joint border of russia and nato, and this to a large extent, can be beneficial erdogan, because he will be aware of his new role in relations with russia and will, therefore, and the new role lies precisely in the fact that the center of gravity of this cooperation can be transferred, but to the black sea region or right now e, the caspian takes on new meanings. unlike what happened. in the north of europe

yes, i still don’t really understand, so to speak, this logic, that is, an ecologist, so that, well, in order to remain advanced, and among the friends of international politics, including this saying, and their, uh, representative about , yes, yes, yes, here, this is, uh, differentiation of countries, of course. it is unprofitable for turkey, too, they also dream of their global influence, and in the great, of course, and in order to achieve this kind of global goals, it is necessary to create possible conflicts, difficult conflicts, light conflicts with their partners, it’s clear now you know that i i know, it seems to me what alex alexandrovna planned to do with you, uh, little little one, i don’t know the epigraph. after all, pay attention that's all and sundry. always talk about values. that's who would not go out of his no one about a grandmother.

well, except for zelensky, everything. no, he is also about value. in fact, it just tells us so to speak, your value and you have to bear more and more expensive and support so the values ​​of the value of the value of the value. maybe this is the impression, so to speak, among narrow-minded people, that really all this is because of the value, but now not only because of the value. let's see. and what kind of dialogue, uh, very revealing, took place in the british parliament between the head of the foreign ministry, elizabeth, we have already mentioned by the british mps. saudi arabia is an important ally of the uk for the murder of journalist jamal khashoggi right i wanted to say that saudi arabia is responsible or not, an important partner of the uk 81 people in one day and you do not consider saudi arabia an authoritarian regime. i believe that our country must fight

the main threats to the world, the number one threat is russia, in order to defeat it, we must gain access to alternative energy sources in persian gulf countries. we do not live in an ideal world and we have to make difficult choices. it is important for me that in the uk there are natural ties with the countries of this region, if an authoritarian regime operates in such a country, then it is possible to cooperate with it, because it is authoritarian only towards its own citizens. right. listen, in russia, the regime is invading an independent state and is trying to create a great russia , create the ussr and china, too, will not go. not really, it's cool. no, it's cool that i use my hands, of course, very very very. michael love the stage. tell me, kurds. we will not throw, why? and last time they threw it, well, not really, but this time we won’t be good? come on, yes, yes indeed. she started

talking about values. this is what you all say. you are saying something about it, lord, my god, to call your things, you must call things by their proper names. wait. well, michael wait. i say trust the theater director. let 's call a spade a spade, no one has canceled the principle, you son of a bitch. well our why people? why are politicians embarrassed to admit it? i don't understand, i must say yes, why are people very shy? that is, of course, these are obscurantists, of course. it's autocrats, but it's a useful partner. you just have to admit. it's obscurantist too. well, this is useful for russia, lukashenka is also a general principle of world politics. why are these values? it's my beat that threatens your

values, don't you think? well, who is who, if values ​​are reapolitics, no one threatens, because your friends mean a fan who right now in madrid they are sitting there they called the russia-china partnership a threat to the values ​​and interests of the alliance it is said in the new strategic concept of the north atlantic alliance adopted on wednesday a lot of interesting things statements are happening that i say that he is only a crazy house on the road. i don't know how to deal with the statement. e bulgarian e, leader. he said that he did n't have any at all. uh, why does it mean that bulgaria is expelling 70 diplomats and technical staff of the russian embassy, ​​well, they don’t know, bulgaria is expelling, and he doesn't know. it's not there, it's amazing. well, let's listen, shall we? yes, there is amazing intrigue. this is what it means, the famous, famous prime minister who was overthrown

. according to him, they drilled, there are still russian ambassadors. suspicious little people from the bulgarians, on the eve of his resignation, it means that he signed this only and the president speaks the next day. he's just not up to date was saying, i hope, well, right, almost verbatim. i hope i say that he was guided by some sensible and logical ones. and also so to speak, well grounds and behold. well it true, here is such a so-called bulgarian intrigue. i think this is a political science textbook. well, god bless him with the bulgarians, i actually really liked it. i'm really, i'm serious and , uh, i'm really glad michael said. enough with all this nonsense. we spend time shaking out of thin air about the values ​​of awesomeness, and so on , it is clear that the values ​​are one value, one regular meal, preferably at the expense of others , and the guys are getting everything right alexander nikolayevich well, let's name things already. it is easier others. well na- well actually not quite, because the value is so, and the money is priceless, uh turns into gold and the toilet bowl. here they are, in

principle, meaningless. yes, respectively, i don’t understand very well, what everyone doesn’t like, saudi arabia and why everyone on both sides uh poke this saudi arabia, i can explain in a nutshell no, if you say remind me about kashogi. and about the fact that they worked there a lot even before the khashogs. uh, d- burns to the kill. still , it's understandable. i just burn always strictly not easy does not correspond perpendicularly, means the entire statement of all western after that western leader means on the background. i apologize for this image of the swinging corpses of hanged gays, which means that they came to meet them with their hands clenched. well, what do we have with prey with prey? here, what amazed everyone, you understand, she cannot say yes, if saudi arabia had such a task and if these people posed a threat, then they

did absolutely the right thing with them . i express myself extremely correctly for the ether, but it is not because what she can not say in order to be afraid she is afraid to choose, of course because in the western world. sorry, this is still there. eh, what's it called? michael, you taught me the word shnyaga and para-values. and here we come to the fact that the values ​​were initially proclaimed. incorrect, that is, initially, as it were, good values, such as humanism and so on, that now they have nothing, these values ​​\u200b\u200bare beautiful. i'm self-prepared. don't just share. i am their main carrier in fact , but at the moment when you recognize your values, the only possible and the only true. remember, this teaching is true because it is there, because it is true; it is omnipotent because it is true, because it is all powerful at this moment. it turns not into values, but into manipulation into tools and meanness, please, what else is the equipment

? but with the fact that the greeks are offended by this and see it as a threat to themselves. so now what concerns the workers' party of kordistan. i have enough time. yes they heard more. well, in my opinion, this is a leftist party, and therefore. it must be destroyed everything. this is actually a conversation about values. i think it's fundamentally important. why because i'm just amazed at people who call themselves liberals on mondays. they stand up for values ​​and say that well, of course, there is equality of rights, and on tuesdays, when they are backed up against the wall. they say, yes, of course, the relay will fly, what are you talking about, so clear, saudi arabia and all. well, uh, because, of course, we, uh, are pleased with michael's sobriety. but

in fact, such a point of view is not publicly declared. e in the united states and great britain from the stands. still. we do not know there, or rather, we guess that in the silence of the lobby there they are discussing at the nato summit. but if you really did, it would be publicly stated. that would make it very easy, because listen to saudi arabia. well, honestly, there really isn't much to say. take even the ratings that western universities publish saudi arabia's democracy rankings in all rankings significantly lower, for example, russia is in last place. in general, it is even recognized as funny to listen to the british foreign secretary and now saudi arabia is suing a war in yemen is waging a war. eh, and and here she is, and here she doesn’t even know the elementary texture, but here she is spinning, but this is really a fundamental moment. yes, we understand that in the icy barga on e, the russians don’t wake up on december 5 and they don’t know first of all, western europe

does not know what to do with this, and they already have porridge in their heads there, because they first coordinated the sixth package all may. and when they introduced it, they seemed to agree that there would be no oil from december 5 and they immediately said, but let's still introduce a different mechanism. we will have a maximum price. yes, you can buy. wait you just donate people by sea, why don't we? because it is categorically contradictory. all our ideas. but if the price of fats let's start, then it's absolutely the same, that is, at first they really say that we people in general are the oil of russian bloody oil, we won't touch it, because the russians are hitting our values. and now they say, well, actually, if that's the price, then you can have normally nothing. this means that it is already less bloody, that is, apparently, it is bloody there, say, up to $50 per barrel is bloody. and below fifty, not bloody, all the girls add so she says she drank, but in vienna she had time with some other oil, saudi yes, she already

in general, some kind of democratic becomes. it 's just amazing. well, it's just amazing. this, of course, is amazing. we we have long suspected about this. now just watch it. now it is on all the screens of the planet and thank god look, and about the value. yes, you remember there was a democracy themselves, canoe. yes, i just do not have this list at hand. but if you look at this interesting, this list is very interesting, because if you look at it, read it through and through, yes, and see who is invited, who not invited acc. so with the degree of democracy, there is a very interesting african example, and everything about saudi arabia has been forgotten. most importantly, these are the september 11 attacks. do you remember who did something, yes, who is like the saudis, and in america, mike was still there, and yes, and was hinted at many times. yes, against the monarchy, the saudis. yes, yes, yes, listen, and in america

an association of victims of terrorist attacks was created, and when they filed a lawsuit against the saudis, yes, how was it all put on the brakes? you understand everything, right? i remembered that instead of, therefore, the leader of venezuela, no one was called guaido, but when it was necessary, after the start of our spice operation, to negotiate with venezuela. for some reason, a goy before them in general, tikhonovskaya now the caspian summit is taking place and vladimir putin is present at it . confirmed not giving other countries their territory to commit aggression. this is said in the comm by witnesses.