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let's go to sleep. i'll sit down for a bit. i'll make my bed on the veranda. we need to get divorced. you
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won't have the best sex of your life. where were you? please forgive me for coming, i really need to talk to you. something has happened. no, i actually thought that dasha was with you in a nightclub. dan dan where are you? it seems to me that they want to kill each other again, who are they, well, who did they take, because lyosha took a revolver and left
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to stop. please quietly, quietly, quietly, quietly, quietly, sit down quietly, quietly, quietly, quietly, quietly, quietly, quietly, quietly, let's
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shoot. roulette is fair. who will simply leave the level, no one will know anything. tails fate where did they go? i don't know if they kill each
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other it will be your fault or maybe you will be to blame? it's their business. they themselves will figure it out about the officers option. if something happens to lyosha, i won't forgive you. i will not say. i ca n't say it won't be fair. you can't tell, you don't understand what's going on, please man. will you show me once where they are? i will leave you. i am not kidding.
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what are you doing what are you doing? let go, please let go of the gun. how tired i am sveta, i'm tired of living every day. i mean, you don't love me for 17 years 17 years. this thought, it haunts me , it eats me from the inside, too. yes, i did not live at all, and so i deceived myself. and you deceived your own, unless a
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sinner told a lie before your wedding. i came to her. and he lied that you yourself asked for it in tajikistan but for the sake of the ranks, she believed. a complete act is such a nasty act. well what to do love is a war in a war, like yourself, you know that in the war? and what did you do lyokh you were offended and left. and if you truly loved her, lyosha, you would have spat everything came, stuffed my face and took her away. i went after you, lyosha went, but you disappeared. you evaporated, where you were for the third year, where you were next to it was good, because i was for her. it was for everything, because i loved her svetka svetka as i loved you. i love you. i loved you, the fool was waiting for you to
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look at me at least once in your life, as you looked at him. let's go home. forgive
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me. good evening on the air is a big russian game a special operation in ukraine is successfully developing , the territory of the donetsk people's republic is gradually being liberated, where the armed forces of russia and the people's militia of the dpr and lpr. conduct offensive operations in two directions at once. these are the avdeevka direction and the artemov direction. and the west, meanwhile, continues to use ukraine as an instrument of a hybrid war against russia and continues to supply ever new
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weapons of military equipment. just today, for example, nato secretary general ens. stoltenberg announced the need to quote a constant stream of ammunition heavier weapons better weapons for ukraine however, behind this facade, and in the united states, there is growing talk of dissatisfaction with the ukrainian leadership and president zelensky personally, as well as the united states is taking actions that would seem to contradict the rhetoric about the need for supplies. more heavy weapons to ukraine, for example, a newspaper columnist close to the democratic establishment of the times newspaper. thomas friedman is the one who proclaimed a flat world at the end of the cold war writes in the new york times today that there is deep mistrust between the white house and ukrainian president zelensky and that, in private, u.s. officials are much more concerned about ukraine's leadership than is
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publicly reported. in addition , united states undersecretary of defense colin count recently stated that the pentagon would not yet send new himovs multiple launch rocket systems to ukraine, contrary to kiev's insistence and even contrary to the initial american promise to supply only 20 hummers. now they say that 16 for ukraine is enough, and now the united states is saying that they will only supply ammunition to the hummers already delivered. there, it must be said that russia has already destroyed part of the hammers, and today we will talk about the facade and the content of american policy regarding ukraine on how the facades of the content correspond to each other with the president of the center for national interest in washington dmitriy symom dmitry good afternoon. dmitri hi so, here's how the situation is, uh,
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what thomas friedman described really looks like from inside washington and is there really growing dissatisfaction with zelensky ukrainian leadership in general and the way they behave? tom friedman is a very good, knowledgeable columnist he was once an excellent correspondent for the new york times in the bluff east he gradually evolved to feel like a prophet. and almost all of his prophecies, which are like, but flat earth and countries will never be at war with each other, because they are united by coca-cola and one the internet. all this turned out to be nonsense. but when he speaks like a reporter, and in this case he is giving information about what is happening in the white house more widely in the administration. he usually knows what he's saying and does it, uh, quite
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responsible, and i've been talking. i thought it was some of the people we talked to there and i also heard, if you want disappointment and annoyance. and president zelensky and his inner circle, but i want to immediately warn our viewers here from understanding that there is a difference, uh, between uh, disappointment and even with irritation on the one hand and a willingness to change american policy towards ukraine , i don’t see such a willingness yet. and zelensky, if i may say so, using the traditional american expression by them. uh, in the white house, a lot of people think he's a son of a bitch, but he's our son of a bitch , and he's not just a son of a bitch, but he's uh, scoring references to he, uh, a son who has
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acquired a certain morality, if you want advantages over white home when e at the beginning of a special operation. uh, the white house was ready. uh ukraine as they surrendered, afghanistan and this, of course, for the biden administration. it would be a very painful political defeat. and zelensky , as it were, resists to the last ukrainian. and if you want, he allows the united states to have just such a division of duties, in fact, of course, it's not even only the united states - it's nato, it's the collective west that is waging war in ukraine but for certain world order, but in this war. uh, zelensky is proving to be very useful because he is ready for this war.
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give the territory of their country without protest. and if you want, not just your own armed forces, but your own people, that is, a person who is very useful. and to lose or even publicly quarrel with whom on the eve of the upcoming midterm elections in november would be an extremely unsuccessful administration. there are republicans in congress who say that the united states is too tied to zelensky, but i think that even if zelensky would have been abandoned by the administration, even they would have become it against the administration to use, that is, in the administration, there is a growing realization of the serious problems of zelensky's rule and his personal leadership style, but not yet, so far, there is no readiness
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to significantly change something in american politics. as for the weapons that dmitriy supplies, but here i tell you completely, but i understand the administration, because zelensky's advisers are constantly talking. so they need some incredible amounts of weapons for which not only they have no ammunition yet the united states does not have the opportunity to supply the amount of ammunition that is not required, let's say for stochheimers, but in general there is none, but there are people in ukraine who have such an amount of this very sensitive and demanding weapon. could use the foreseeable future. i mean, sometimes i even ask myself a question. does zelensky really expect to receive this weapon? or is he just asking for it to tell? whatever he would be, vladimir wins. now, if all his
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desires were fulfilled, they know in advance that they cannot be fully implemented. well dmitry, i completely agree with you. uh, the united states can't. they have neither the impossibility nor the desire to fulfill the wishes of his ukrainian leadership, including in the supply of arms and not only in this area, but i also agree with you that fundamentally american policy towards ukraine will not change regardless of any then fluctuations in mood and relations in the white house and in washington as a whole personally to zelensky and e to his entourage, because the united states needs, and this anti-russian foothold. they really use ukraine as a tool and do everything to ensure that this tool is not lost, but the midterm elections are coming, and you already mentioned, but the positions of the republicans, and many republicans say that given
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those problems, that wave of problems, uh , which the united states is facing and the recession and, uh, inflation record for the last 40 years, at the same time write standing checks, and the ukrainian hand. especially without any understanding of how this money is used and even as a weapon. are used, by the way, the united states also more often began to raise the issue that many weapons may not reach the front line. and so to speak, they are stolen and it is not yet clear where they will surface. in what markets and in what theaters of war is it so, but it is quite obvious, and that the republicans should win a decisive victory in the midterm elections, recent searches, and in the estate of trump maraga, which lasted 9 hours, an absolutely unprecedented event for the united states for the first time in history usa the same was done for a former president and probably a candidate in the next
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presidential election. all this consolidates the republicans and strengthens the popularity of trump, who is already the most popular republican politician. so the republicans really should win today. midterm elections like this uh, in your opinion will affect the policy of the united states towards ukraine but to begin with, uh dmitry i would be very careful. uh, predicting the results of the midterms at the latest, what i love to do is predict the results of an election on the eve of an election, because something unexpected can always happen at the last minute. for example, uh, there was a supreme court decision on abortion that changed the political dynamic in favor of the democrats, because the majority of women are against uh, the abortion ban and when the republicans kind of, kind of looked
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connected to that policy. it didn't help the republicans. i just showed that democrats could do better than before was supposed to. but now, this situation with a special, uh, tramp, it, of course, mobilizes, fills with energy without the republican electoral base, this will contribute. e trump, although, of course, in this case he does not run, but simply supports the candidates under all conditions. uh, i think the republicans have a good chance at this stage, but not sure of a good chance of taking control of the house of representatives, and for the senate, i think that the republicans are still preferable, but they have a couple in republicans are weak candidates, so i'm, uh, afraid to make any confident predictions. but here is one prediction, i will make kohl soon we
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are talking about ukraine and the republicans are divided in their approach, no one is talking about ukraine. let 's capitulate in ukraine now let's give russia a victory. let the united states, like its afghanistan, once again look like a beaten dog. these are the republicans. probably very few, if any, but there are republicans who i would call populists. nationalists, not globalists. and these populist nationalists are increasingly saying why we actually forgot in ukraine why should this country be, if you like, the defining theme in our foreign policy should determine american relations with another nuclear power. in this case, from closely. e is with russia and it is well known, and i know it. personally, that trump from the
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countryside does not like does not like the people around him and when e trump says that the presidential election was stolen from him, and the twentieth year. he believes that the ukrainian leadership is with the logic of her campaigning, she helped decorate the election of president trump. therefore, i think that if the republicans seized control, at least over one house of congress. you already talk to ukraine would become a little more rational and there would be more members of congress who would publicly ask those questions that are now being asked about zelensky only on the sidelines. well , if trump became president in the twenty-fourth year, we know that he was not always able to spend his life in the way he wanted during his the first term, but i'm sure that if there hadn't been a second term, well, frankly, his heart
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would not have hurt about zelensky. and he would try to find a quick solution to this crisis, again not on the terms of american surrender, but here is an endless war. uh, with russia because of ukraine, it’s not like that, what is it? this idea does not appeal to the president. dmitry it seems to me that if the republicans win the midterm elections, but still the economic situation. e, contributes to this particular outcome favors this outcome, and it seems to me that the economy traditionally determines the outcome of american elections to a much greater extent than other factors. although, of course, it is incorrect to put them out of brackets and absolutely agree with you, but nonetheless. at the very least , the biden administration will live much less comfortably, because, uh, as we know,
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it is the majority party in the us congress and in the senate and in the house of representatives that determines the agenda, and the work of all committees and the entire chamber of all chambers as a whole and initiates the investigation and administration of biden will definitely succeed on the part of the republicans. a whole series of investigations, including, and about those oba. which now e were held in a-a trump residence, including, and about hunter biden, who still remains, well, as if inaccessible to american justice, which causes very serious irritation among the republican, e, establishment, while i completely agree with you dmitry e, that the republicans are divided in their approach regarding both the ukrainian crisis and russia as a whole has republican realists who believe that while considerations of great-power policy of strategic stability are much more
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important, and precisely here. e. the united states should have top priorities. and then there are republicans like lindsey graham, who just recently said again that the united states should recognize russia as a sponsor of terrorism. and what if the biden administration does not go for it, then congress will go for it. ah, here, what do you think, what group is inside the republican party inside the republican establishment in the coming in the medium term will prevail and also ask you. uh, as a washington insider, although on the one hand, washington is a city where the vast majority is pro-democrats, but you dmitry is close to the republican establishment, how about uh? what is the reaction? what's the attitude, what's the intentions what 's next after these raids after these nine hour searches, and at donald trump's residence
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, what do they say in republican circles? well at first there is such an american expression, dmitry is good at it. you know indze spirit full descloser. it's called, uh, in the spirit of full disclosure. yes, on the one hand i live in the washington area, but on the other. i live, uh, in a county in north camel that traditionally vote republican. this place is very conservative and uh, when uh there was an election, uh, there were a lot of trump slogans around and there were practically no uh biden posters. and so, when i look at this category of people who, uh, in general, feel that they only brings, uh, economic ruin, and not only drags america into an unnecessary war in ukraine. yes, i
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'll tell him. here's dmitry here with this is already at the level of primitive sensations. these people have a growing feeling, at the moment already a firm feeling, that not only biden do not like people like them . well, in general, what is the task of his administration to braginalize these people and not just marginalize them today, but also to conduct such an immigration policy in order to guarantee that for decades to come, and people the traditional view of people of white skin color, and people who, uh, are not globalists by nature, but are patriots of america and want to pursue a very muscular policy, defending american interests, but they do not have messianic instincts. they have the feeling that they
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are biden, but globals. such forces, uh, international corporations are against them and therefore, i think that they will try to oppose biden very actively . and if you want to be a successful republican senator, you will have to reckon with these forces, especially if trump shows perform well in the upcoming mid-term elections and demonstrate what electoral victories and the last reason can bring to his supporters. you know, he was the closest, and supporter of mccain, and was in some matters. uh, more radical than a, but uh, when trump became president, he began to actively support trump , including softening his, uh, very exterminated positions on many international issues, including russia, therefore my prediction. worth that
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if e trump will look stylish, if he will the feeling that the republican party is ready to rally around him, then even people like senator graham will take this into account. well, let's just say, they won't rebuild like that, but they will change their style a little bit and look at ukraine through more realistic eyes dmitry, what personally worries me the most in this story with searches at uh, trump, this is what is outside depending on whether they dig for compromising evidence or don’t dig up on him, whether dann will go to criminal prosecution or not, whether they will leave him at large or not leave him outside depending on how the november midterm elections to the congress are held, the american society as a result of such actions and the american political system as a whole will become even more divided, that is, an internal political
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crisis. the tripolitical confrontation will grow in the united states, what in english is called the partisan chief will intensify, yes, when you support your own, because they are yours, because they are party members, and not because they are right. uh, in fact the opponents are wrong hostility in the relationship between progressives and conservatives democrats and republicans will rise, ah and uh, what happened in maraca is very serious, a step towards this american escalation into a political crisis and split. and that means american politics will continue to be in a fever in the long run. and as we know foren polo systed. home yes, i will say one more thing in english, that is, the foreign policy in the united states is to a large extent. of course, it is not a continuation of the internal one, but it is greatly influenced by internal political layouts. and if american domestic politics
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will be in a fever. even more so, the foreign policy of the united states will remain very, provocative and irresponsible, but let 's hope that in the end both of these crises will be somehow overcome in any case dmitry many thanks, as always, for an exceptionally interesting conversation and until we meet again. e with you, and the big game will continue in a few moments. this famous bridge across the dnieper, along which our troops entered kherson, i've been waiting for this for 30 years, as you experienced in the basement. honestly, i didn't look out. now i am a target for the ukrainian authorities, which interferes with the establishment of a peaceful name for life. they themselves left the kherson region. if you left, why will you not come back forcibly. this wire burns such was the temperature. here was the
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there is a big game on the air one of the priorities of american policy in europe is undoubtedly the further expansion of nato, and in particular the entry of sweden into the alliance in finland and no further than yesterday. uh, the president of the united states, biden , solemnly signed the protocol on the accession of these countries, and to nato this does not mean that they have become members of the alliance, because not all countries of the alliance, especially turkey, have yet to ratify. uh, this decision was not signed, the corresponding protocols, but biden made a very loud statement at the end of this ceremony, listen, putin believed that he could break us, but we showed determination and instead he achieves exactly the opposite results. he sought the finlandization of europe and instead he achieved the natoization of finland and sweden, well, in fairness it must be said here that the nutheization of
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europe is not what is happening. now this is a long-term policy of the united states, which was proclaimed by the clinton administration immediately after she came to power, but under the slogan of the so-called strategy of increasing involvement. this is the ninety-third and ninety-fourth year, and since then the united states has really stepped up this natheization of europe issue. however, it lies in whether europe is capable of pulling this notarization and acting not just as a landsnecht under the american knight, but as an effective and combat-ready landsnecht under the american knights. and here. it seems to me that the rhetoric is a bit at odds with practice on the one hand. here at the level of rhetoric europeans continue to express readiness to support ukraine to the very end. just yesterday , a telephone conversation took place between french president macron and outgoing british prime minister johnson and where did they proclaim, huh? uh, the need to support ukraine, so to speak,
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as much as necessary. and that fatigue cannot be tolerated. west from the war. this is on the one hand. this is rhetoric. on the other hand, the practice is that europe has almost completely exhausted. e their military reserves in terms of the supply of weapons to ukraine and a. american analysts, on the other hand, are increasingly skeptical of europe's ability to be an effective ally of the united states a in the fight against russia , here are the opinions of two senior american retired diplomats michael k faller and david rendel, which they outlined in newslik magazine. listen, the united states is counting on its european allies to counter russian aggression against ukraine, but there are several reasons to doubt that support can continue indefinitely. approaching its biggest economic crisis since the 1930s, the eu government is in trouble italy's prime minister has already lost his in the netherlands germany poland and spain farmers and
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truckers have been protesting for weeks a wave of strikes has swept through the important aviation sector as these events unfold in europe millions refugees fleeing similar problems in africa and the middle east are likely to move towards european borders as food fuel problems rise and migration, all governments in europe will face increased unrest. many of them are also likely to retire in the next six to eight months. as the euro falls to parity with the dollar and the continent's budget deficit soars, europe's willingness to share us wartime outside of europe will become increasingly questionable and the eu once a leading proponent of renewable energy. now admitted his need for more gas. and even coal ivan alekseevich well here, uh, do you think europe is capable of playing the role of at least an effective cannon fodder instrument of american policy? and even she will not be able to cope with this, as american
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diplomats suggest. yes, of course, america does not look. now as a powerful knight. maybe, like a knight of a sad image of such a don quixote, well, and europe , of course, at best, on sancho panza, pulls, but really the mood in europe is such that we want to continue the old policy, but we can’t and it’s completely incomprehensible how they will from this from it's hard to go out in europe quite rightly. this is noted by uh commentators. but can the current european politicians go beyond the course laid down in the united states, my answer is no, they cannot. uh, in that sense, american politics is the politics of their european satellites, it's a dead end. they'll pull this string until they lose the election, until
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they face serious protest. e inside their own countries, but to stop these protests and discontent within their own countries. they dont have no possibilities. they tried to flee to the middle east, somewhere in north africa well, in general, to those places where it might be possible to find a replacement for russian energy resources, and they got it everywhere. eh, quite honest answers. their no one will be behind the nose said sorry. here is the power. there is production, and in the end there are obligations under the custody deal. plus, for your sake, we won’t e. we won’t betray the agreements that we learn from ourselves to the detriment of ourselves, so this is the result of your their own politics and break out of the trap into which european politicians have entered they cannot. they cannot change their policy, which
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means they will pull and pull the strap, but as much as they can. the commentators say they won't be able to for a long time. i think the people in the white house are responding to this in the following way. well, nothing lasts forever. here's how much they can empty. if you have any good suggestions. how to help them pull this strap a little longer, let's take a look at them. well, just like ukraine though they understand that the collapse of ukraine is absolutely inevitable. no one saves ukraine, ukraine substitutes some crutches, they give it into service , they say, well, as much as you can even further. uh, hold on, uh, we went through it ourselves, like, for some kind of long-term restoration of ukraine, ukraine was promised money, they give practically nothing, that is, the position is this. well, come on, that's how much you can be a hero, or rather, or rather, perish the relationship of the ameri. to europe, it is about the same, and
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this is actually the policy on toys. here finnishization policy. it was a policy of peace and development, and the policy of notation is, uh, the wounded are flawed all in battle. how much can you pull? apparently, this will all drag on until the election cycles. more politicians will follow. well, what you are talking about, in principle, indicates the inevitability of a new serious crisis in transport relations and that the current consolidation, which the united states is very proud of nato consolidation, the consolidation of the collective west is purely temporary, because new politicians will come in europe with different approaches already from more national elites, and not homo atlanticus, who are more committed to the united states. rather than their own population and in the united states, too, the inevitable political rotation, the republicans must win the upcoming midterm elections sooner. they will win and the presidential election of 24 years is
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inevitable, american foreign policy will become less respectful, uh, and the rhetoric will become less respectful in relation to europe, that is, on both sides there will be preconditions for a new serious crisis, and transatlantic relations and, after that, natheization may be to some extent and will decline or instead, as we say here before. stream globalization, globalization globalization, then added d-globalization maybe here on the atheization of the short-lived civilization of europe, the denatherization of europe i generally, uh, in my opinion, have already said in your program. i personally think that we will see each other in our professional life a completely new phenomenon that we have never encountered before. this is not a phenomenon of the entry of new countries into nato the phenomenon of the exit of a strange gray-atlantic alliance well, i think that dan this my one of the possible forms of the de-netization of
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europe will be the accession of at least part of the european countries to a large eurasia that is being formed, consolidated and becomes a really very serious unit global scale. and here is really either-or and continuing your thought. greater eurasia is a world of development stability, and notarization is conflict marginalization and economic decline, but nevertheless the united states continues to consolidate anti-russian and anti-chinese blocs in asia the united states is doing about the same thing as in europe strongly reminiscent of, and for the trization of europe, here we are talking about the expansion of nato and we have been talking about expansion over the past 30 years. they should now begin a new discourse of expanding aus. uh, the asian tour of the united states deputy secretary of state to andy sherman is now underway and she
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visited new zealand yesterday and, uh, in the course of negotiations with the prime minister of this country, she said that new zealand is a-a. maybe, and well, with the filing of the united states, apparently, it should, but join the auxus. yes, a bite. let me remind you that this is a military bloc of the united states, great britain and australia, from the outset aimed at both confronting china as a whole and creating a nuclear navy, and australia as well. i want to ask e nicholas nikolaevich in general, how will china react to such trends, after all, it is unlikely that it will sit idly by, seeing this desire of the united states to consolidate and expand anti-chinese blocs, but china has always been famous for reacting preventively and trying to predict development situation for a decade at home, and when the cylinder came to power, there were announcements. it is a large-scale program to create a navy. now it is approaching in
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size in terms of tonnage. yeah it's important to stress under the knife not everywhere. china surpasses the united states in technology, but the fleet of the united states of america is being commissioned in terms of tonnage, and a third aircraft carrier has been launched into operation . soon it will be fully operational. it will take about a year, that is, what are we talking about for the reign of graying, the economy of china has doubled means from 2012 to 2022 and now it actually exceeded the economy of the european union is approaching the economy of the united states , it is logical that no one will tolerate the second world leader in the economy. and then it was already clear that all these augusts they were then in the air creating the containment of china and balancing, which was still under obama in the pacific ocean. yes, china has already made this strategy for it. the answer is the military answer, and so on. and then, by the way, the movement began with the russian federation as the most important strategic north. because you understand that not a single power, either china or the united states or the russian federation, is able to
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win as much as possible if you focus on two directions at the same time, that is, china has made its preparations, but so far the most important means the point at which august has not yet entered, more precisely, the side that has not entered. this is japan and japan - this is the country that the american biden administration thinks the democrats are the number one power, which should be a battering ram against china and korea, respectively, for certain reasons, that it will fall under the rink, respectively, and the dprk of china directly, it is trying to distance itself from this conflict, but japan of course, the most drawn to this auction is that here new zealand enters. this is actually a definite defeat. sherman understands that what small countries are. well, new zealand additionally. no matter how much weight she makes to this association, it is very important for our viewers to emphasize here the overton window is expanding. we are all told that this is the base of the nuclear fleet, that is, nuclear-powered submarines, nuclear engines in australia, but we understand that today this is the base. tomorrow is nuclear industry. and the day after tomorrow, these are nuclear weapons
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deployed in the same new zealand, australia, and so on, which threaten south china, which has shaved. and most importantly, if the launches take place from australia, it is not necessary that china will respond asymmetrically to the united states. australia is not a pity, the desert, let it burn, yes, that is, we understand that the thirties thirty-fifth year is coming to this. and and for example, there is such a composite general stavridis-admiral. more specifically , he wrote a book, world war 2034, which describes in detail the scenario that due to the conflict in the south china sea, a large-scale use of the armed forces of the chinese of the united states begins and even then the american doctrine may undergo very large-scale changes. here is the conflict avoidance prophet. today the hybrid is in direct collision. with china now with the use of nuclear weapons. that is, and the bite is a sight for this world war in 2030 35, everyone understands where this is going, the same thing is happening with i identical structural situation with ukraine to create a big ukrainian conflict, a crisis, chinese ukraine is taiwan. so the same
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chinese. they live there only inspired in many ways that these are taiwanese and so on, not chinese, and along the perimeter of all other countries, using this threat, china means creating alliances around itself to consolidate. at the same time, everyone is well aware that all neighboring countries are their main trading partner. for 10 years now - it's china the united states is second in this region and east asia in southeast asia just like it is now in many ways. i will try to add what thought about finland estonia and sweden in many ways there is an understanding that within the framework of the recession in the european union within the framework of the weakening of nato but in the event of large-scale inflation imports of russian gas, despite all the louder completely , these countries of the baltic region will be in the hands of our economic influence right now. the elite understands that they need the same as in japan south korea is at the same time of crisis, china will
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help these countries in the same way as we will help the baltics of the balkans. we understand the rest of their leadership to be atlantic-oriented, that they have a chance, except to radicalize the agenda to join nato, build another mannerheim line to maintain power. no, this is also internally pushing these countries, and in many respects it is the same here, but here the situation is more deplorable, these countries are such kneedonesia. malaysia is not part of any defense alliances, or they are very, let's say, defective or clustered. yes, that is, situational and these countries understand that they want to generally distance themselves from this conflict and rather they are closer even to china a country like indonesia for example it has already switched to direct trading in the yuan in its trade in the philippines marcos did not come without the support of the chinese, respectively , comrades and so on and everywhere. now, if what robots even understand that it is worth getting away from the us-china conflict altogether. and no one even stay closer to china ready to sacrifice himself, so europe comes forward. oddly enough, less civilized. and let's say less, so weighted than the countries of southeast asia we still develop and grow to become a new europe, they
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understand this, well, of course. here are the recent summits. uh, the osian summit, recently the brix summit and the desire of many asian countries in the same indonesia to join the brix showed that they do not want to take aside in this confrontation the united states uh, china the united states certainly makes a long-term confrontation with china by the way, saying, uh usa this press recently stated that the cia will redirect its resources and personnel from fighting terrorism to confronting china zealand does not want to take aside. even south korea takes a very equivalent point of view. and this dooms the american strategy to failure. we will now pause for a few moments. and then we will continue the conversation about the american policy of his on energy relations between russia and europe on the occasion
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