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now we will discuss the current situation in us-china relations. in connection with the aggravation of their contradictions. uh, in connection with the recent visit of two american delegations and the

escalation of the conflict between these two states, we have, uh, our prominent sinologist participating in the program. e, yuri tavrovsky. that's what i would like to ask. please tell me how the situation develops after the first and second escalations. e, in connection with the arrival of us congressmen is escalating from the chinese side. yes , the chinese responded to the first visit with military exercises, in fact, a blockade, the islands and the air force, and the second trip too. called uh, military exercise. i think that in the near future we can expect some more decisive ones. the systemic actions of the chinese because e

ended yesterday or the day before. uh, chinese top leadership meeting at the annual seaside resort. i saw ah. and uh, usually after that, after a few days, some very important events for sure. escalation was discussed there, but on and around taiwan well, look at the actual fact, the chinese are distinguished not only by the movements of aircraft and ships. they distinguish the movement of billions of dollars. yes, uh already uh, the amount in the federal reserve, which exceeded a billion 100 uh, trillion 100 billion. it is already less than a trillion. this means that somewhere more than 100 billion were withdrawn. on friday, the five largest chinese e. uh, you left the new york stock exchange, where the

so-called listing took place, that is, here is the answer uh, china not afraid of divorce. china denies the possibility of a war with america china does not exclude the possibility of a counter-terrorist operation. uh, around taiwan its blockade and so on and so forth, but uh, china is running the long distance as always. they have a systematic approach. they have a goal, and they will go to this goal, uh, decisively and unequivocally you know, i would like to draw your attention and would like to know your reaction to the statement of one of the outstanding american political uh, thinkers patrick birkin. well everyone remembers his famous work is death. west even branches of the us until 2025. and of course, this was a man who worked with presidents nixon reagan,

uh, and was himself a republican presidential candidate. you know, e, he is already in general a middle-aged man, not so much as a brush. well, that's close. here he made a very interesting statement. uh, in the wake of the telas visit. he said that actually in this first confrontation. china defeated the united states, that is, the chinese organized large-scale military exercises on the island and actually blockaded by the americans. nothing could be done against it. and therefore another very important conclusion that booking draws from this but the countries of the region. they see it all

japan allies south korea australia and how effective will the us reaction if suddenly china turns its power to these countries, that's what you say about it. i think that the americans are confirming their reputation as a paper tiger, because it is quite clear that they themselves are not going to fight. they just suffered a year ago humiliating defeat in afghanistan and they remember well the korean war, they remember well, but the vietnam war is the only one. uh, what are they capable of now, a pushes the taiwanese into conflict with china, arm them, and uh, impose them. e. the catastrophic political decision to declare sovereignty. i think not the

japanese, not the koreans, nor the other participants. they don't count on american military assistance for such military blocs there, and, uh, it's generally unthinkable. it seems to me to imagine that there will be precisely a clash of america and china i think that on e for several years. uh, maybe even for many years. such a war would not be. it would mean uh world war iii, but uh, nonetheless. uh, here is the guarantee that this war will not take place in the fact that america is now fighting over the front against russia and some are not yet fighting against. yes and that's what putin said yesterday. this was a confirmation that he was talking about something, and putin was on the fourth of february in a declaration. yes, it's been six months. and with a new

by force. we confirmed we are together we stand back to back. you know, to confirm your words, i want to refer to the city of chemga, this is a senior researcher at the institute, haistan. i said a lot of things, but you have already expressed the most important thing. the us has no resources for the chinese front. but this is what we have said many times in our programs, remembering bismarck. yes, you cannot fight on two fronts in europe against russia and in the far east against china. i would like to turn now to our colleague. e vladimir sergeevich osipova here is an interconnected the question is here. what impact do we see on the economic situation in china and the usa after

this confrontation between these two states and the escalation of these conflict relations. thank you very much, the situation is very dangerous. in fact , we must remember. e. what damage to the world economy did the covid cause, when the supply of basic goods from china was, uh, under great threat, they were disrupted, and what consequences did this lead to, uh. complicating the relationship between the us and china, so to speak, is a confrontation. especially confrontation will lead to even deeper consequences, we must understand that the chinese economy is approximately 17 times larger than the russian one today, we see what impact the conflict in europe has brought to the world economy, and this is the energy crisis of the world is the world food crisis. this is a crisis in the supply of, uh, the necessary components for the production of chips, so, uh, 17 times the

economy of china than the russian economy. just for the world economy will be well, the most destructive are the most destructive. uh, of course, china's growth rate today is a little bit lower than it was planned. of course, this, so to speak, was reflected in oil prices. uh, so to speak today, but uh, it's all so to speak, small such negative phenomena, so to speak, which, so to speak, are incomparable with what could be in the event of a military conflict. god forbid once again i repeat the war conflicts between the us and china, china really. e acts e otherwise china is slowly withdrawing. as mr. turovsky rightly said, uh, deduces, uh, debt obligations, that is, funds from the us meadow obligations from the fourteenth year from one trillion 130 billion today. that's less than a trillion. quite rightly said , china is already responding in fact economically. uh

, what else is possible, uh, a break in the global value chains, when uh china, being the world 's factory, will cease to participate in certain operations. uh, there just won't be enough goods. and everyday goods will not be enough. uh, there, uh, there won't be enough machines. uh, glass is not to be missed. uh, equipment not to be missed uh, the most incredible things really. this is not to be missed, that is, uh clothes and so on the most incredible things can be. please tell me how possible. there was a lot of talk about this at the time. and now, all the more so in the light of the escalation of the conflict, how effective decoupling is possible, that is, the decoupling of these two economies, and is it possible at all and for how long? perspective can be expected that this process? maybe in general, you know the process before the drop, in fact, it is already underway. he's actually on his way. you have already said that it is

another matter that in general this is glocalization, the so -called gallocalization, when regional blocks are formed, for example, a block that will be supervised by the united states and, accordingly, european countries , and a block that will be supervised by the chinese, respectively, its satellites. that is, it is quite. this process is already underway. but uh, in connection with this, you both a very short answer a short question. you know, it's always said that economic deep economic interdependence is some kind of insurance policy against possible war. but this decoupling of the disengagement, as far as it can help, so that the parties feel more free. and in general. this would lead to an escalation. here is this conflict and confrontation. well, look here, dicapring, it leads, uh, to a decrease in dependence on china, for example, work on the american market and the chinese began to

actually this process from the first days of the stay in power. they had one. senchongtai, the new normal. when she said that we need to turn to our markets. they serve uh western and uh recently about three years ago. they developed a new concept of dual circulation of goods, that internal circulation is more important than external circulation in china per billion 400 million people. there are already 450 million in the middle class, and by 1934 it will be 800 million. imagine some kind of domestic market. well, then, of course, it will be possible tell the americans. automagniana really has to add to this domestic consumption - it is indeed a major resource for the development of the chinese economy. yes, indeed, it is, but it seems to me that when talking about the middle class, it should be remembered that gdp per capita in china is 12.5 thousand us dollars in russia it is about 30 and in the usa it is under 70, that is

talk about what the chinese middle class. akin to say so, even russian is not yet possible. and here, and breeding. here is this decoupling. it seems to me, again, this is a dangerous story. in fact, it's better to trade than to fight. quite obviously, therefore, uh, decoupling is a reduction in the very insurance coverage that you spoke about. yes, i agree with this, and it seems to me, on the other hand. still, it's a backup option for china, because china is not a small country, when the americans can say, and we close. serenki and go to hell, and they will die, and they will say, you know, we have a very large domestic market. he may not be as capacious as american, but we have a tendency to increase prosperity. e gdp moreover, according to the

prescription of purchasing power, they have long been ahead of the united states in general and in absolute numbers, and will not be ahead, and therefore, perhaps, this will be a deterrent so that the americans are not too insolent in their pressure. are you listening to us or are we going to strangle you? er, that's impossible. in fact, the us is pursuing a policy of de facto protectionism. under cover of economic sanctions under cover. so to speak some political demands. actually. this is a policy of protectionism. they are trying to carry out, so to speak, a policy of transferring their production territory. that's all. actually everything underneath it was a big game. good luck to you. the information channel on the first continues its

work, the program time will tell. i am artem shenin. you know, there is, i have a feeling that the number of news or the number of cases about which we are discussing. well, as if some kind of provocation is obvious. it somehow still today more. uh, condensed. maybe i have it. well, such a professional deformation, because i follow all this out of necessity. or maybe not. well, see for yourself, and what day we are discussing, and the shelling of the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant and we are talking about the fact that, of course, without the e-visa of the curators, and the armed formations of ukraine could not do this, we observe how it is covered and this story itself in the western media and the arrival, or rather, the non-arrival, there, and so on. that is, it is clearly some kind of prepared story, we are discussing this morning. there is news that there is

absolutely sabotage in crimea. and in dzhankoy, this is despite the fact that, well, we have said more than once that after all, crimea is one of those, uh, kind of red lines that curators, well in general, they meant, uh, to the ukrainian regime, that after all, there was no need to climb there. for some reason, i think that sabotage on the territory of crimea is also a story that could not but be agreed with western curators, and the word sabotage appears in the official department of defense announcement. that is, it is not speculation. and this is all a completely official story, moreover, and this is, uh, a definition, and it appears in today's, which appeared today in today's message from the federal security service of the russian federation, which says that ukrainian saboteurs were undermining for several days, and the supports going power transmission towers from the kursk npp do you understand what an opo is? the power line is the power supply of the station, and the power supply of the station is in general,

well, quite a strong bond with its safety, back to the first point. we are well aware that, all the more so, the sabotage activity of ukrainian saboteurs on the territory of the russian federation and in the area of ​​\u200b\u200bthe nuclear power plant this story, which could not help but receive, e.g., curators' visas. and what is the name? the cherry on this cake is that the curators themselves also identified some activity, which i would call such, well, quite atypical. more precisely, yesterday. it began as a typical one, when a british reconnaissance plane entered our space, but let me remind you this, well, yesterday. the air defense forces on duty over the waters of the barents sea discovered an unknown air target which was heading towards the russian state border to prevent violations of the state border from the air defense forces on duty, the mig-31

bm fighter was raised, which identified it as an aircraft of electronic intelligence and electronic warfare rc-135 air force great britain, an aerial target violated the state border of the russian federation in the area of ​​​​cape svyatoy nos, by the actions of the russian crew, the reconnaissance aircraft was forced out outside the territory of the russian federation, i specifically made a reservation. uh, at the beginning, saying about well , we always make such an assumption that we have professional deformations, that since we are up to our ears in this noise, sometimes we connect such chains of events, and here is this, which means such a filler, so yesterday, when this news appeared, we, of course, saw it. let's not discuss it, because let's be honest, this is not the first, nor the second, nor the tenth time. the story they happened and earlier and in general it is enough to knead it in the general one, well, we did not begin some kind of intense information flow. but today the news came, again from the ministry of defense, which is already something rather unusual. in any case, it is

unusual in the public space, because we have either not heard about such actions before, in any case, we did not discuss them, please. great britain filed an application flight plan for the flight of the british reconnaissance aircraft arsi-135 along the route, including the territory the russian federation considers this action as a deliberate provocation to the air space forces of russia, the task was set to prevent violations of the airspace of the russian federation, all possible consequences from this deliberate provocation will lie solely on the side of great britain. everyone is familiar. i'm already very much where, well, that was my first thought. i always check myself now, i read. uh, so to speak, uh mass media telegram channels, well, where do i know that they always provide balanced

information and even quite balanced people. everyone says that this looks like a new level of provocation, or rather an application for this new provocation. now i have a question. does it look like this for you, that this is some new new level of provocations in your opinion. is it worth considering this condensed provocative, and the activity of either the curators or their, respectively, subordinates of these last days in other words, literary expression, what would that mean? it's a no-brainer, literally speaking. well this fat is not just repulsed so exactly. i would connect these events with what is happening in taiwan, because look. note. first , mix in this pot with honey. another and another tiger of our western partners, they act as a model. and if in one place somehow some events happen quite according to a certain algorithm, then in another place almost always such a law is the preservation of

nato structures. uh, who's elsewhere, they operate, according to the same model in taiwan, they flew and hid. now the congressmen have flown further, then the germans will fly, then the british, perhaps, will fly, and so on, and china is conducting the exercise, everything is standard. everything is regular. and so on, accusations are exchanged. perhaps, already ahead of the ambulance, sanctions will begin to be exchanged and so on. the same thing is happening. uh, in another part of the dactic. this is a zone sensitive to russia, the british are great at it. damn, and the action in the arctic council and now it's very the tense nature of britain the us is trying to form certain pools to uh make the northern sea route accessible to everyone so that russia doesn't dictate how they say their terms to those who go through because russia recently took stringent measures to ensure that all uh, passers-by must have the appropriate permission. well, and so on. these are all really related things. and i think from this very disturbing and very nervous nervous situation. the

chinese comrades and i must make certain conclusion. so why should our alliance be not only strategic in economic terms, but also military-strategic in nature, only in this way back to back. sorry, i'm quoting. yes, uh, our chinese comrades. we can in this regard. uh, even uh, not only compete and successfully compete with our nato partners, because if we continue to talk, what is called crackers in their corners. yeah, we don't cook porridge. yep , look now. i was listening to you and thinking, so i imagine, well, there are chinese comrades and now we speak chinese comrade, you understand, here is a chinese comrade. well, as if ukraine, you understand that this is not all about ukraine, but about this, but here we are talking, we are comrades , this development of events is happening. you now think that only you then you understand, here in the area we are with a holy nose, and we did not start flying. and here we need to strengthen the ranks with you like this. i don't

know, chinese comrades, how to explain it to them. why this is so serious about the holy nose has nothing to do, really, but if our actions are of a coordinated nature militarily, first of all, the exercises will be carried out where they are conceived, including in the caribbean sea for a second. remember , we talked to you, yes, they haven’t canceled it, while there are many exercises in the persian gulf where these military exercises will take place. i think that this kind of action, er, will make ours old. in partners, beware a little and not give such provocative applications with an obvious, what is called such a mockery of what happened and what can happen is clear now, see dmitry georgievich you are a member committee on international affairs. that's what i suspect. uh, what do you have, uh, with your colleagues now, but it is quite a big difficulty with the fact that international affairs, the way they lived before. they don't go anymore. and apparently it won't go on for quite a long time and maybe

never, that is, roughly speaking, all approaches to what international affairs and international relations are. they appear to be. well i don't mean to say the word is broken, but they are very strong modified. and these are some completely new conditions. these are the applications for the overflight of reconnaissance aircraft. oh, shelling. we discussed this with colleagues yesterday. well, listen back there a few months ago. it was unthinkable to even discuss regular shelling of nuclear power plants by artillery, or now sabotage. it seems that then it will not be power plants, and we all understand that this is the curatorship of our these things, so some new approaches are needed. yes , new intonations here it is. well, first of all, uh, that means, in a word, the system of international relations that has been habitual for a long time, taking shape, polished, is really happening is happening before our eyes. hmm, but i belong to the number of those political experts. who believes that russia in this case should not try to play a race and be the first in the word of

international relations, on the contrary, but when this system was being formed, it was being formed in a situation where there were main players and there was the rest of the world, which was happy with satisfaction. watched the world it becomes safer, and when certain agreements were reached in the second half of the last century, therefore, there was a lot of interest in maintaining some kind of semi-stability, which was guaranteed by that system of international relations, no matter how old, yes, but there was a lot of interest. people, if russia continues to advocate the preservation of this system on all diplomatic and any other political platforms, this will add weight and authority to us in the international arena. this is one part of the questions, the other part of the question, when, uh, everything more and more provocations. i agree with this assessment of yours. and i think that there is no professional deformation here. i have just returned from buryatia, where i was for 2 days, the population also appreciates this. that is, it is not only professional journalists who assess

the situation this way, but also a huge number of people. we still had a lot of meetings there. what to do is the first question. this means that the answers can be asymmetrical or symmetrical, as if to these provocations related to our territory and our security, strengthening ties with china is, as it were, a symmetrical answer, but understandable enough, because hmm i think that beijing is well aware that it is not always that the zone of tension for them, organized by washington, will be limited to the zone of taiwan, this zone can arise. the time is anywhere, because in majuria and in this situation it is better to have covered borders with russia a. better yet, think about how to build a collective security system, turn it on. yes, so this is very promising. why does this turn out to be a response in beijing my forecast? yes, because in beijing heard well what was said at the last meeting of nato countries. after all, they used to be, as it were, a regional bloc. they ensured their own security in europe and the

euro-atlantic bloc in america. and now, when they formulated threats, they called not only russia for nato, not for the united states for us, but china also figured already. as a threat, the degree of threat. they discussed it among themselves, but china heard all this. china understands that it is ceasing to be a regional bloc. or or hide behind it behind this screen and for china is a real serious threat. everything that the natoptsy will carry out against russia can turn around. you are in china so let's draw a line under this part of the reflections, but the prospects in my opinion, to implement this project, but the joint opposition to the west is not only political, not only diplomatic or economic. well, the military, of course, she appears. well, and one more thing, that means, here are the prolocations, yes, the assessments were made by the ministry of defense. yes , they are right yes, what to do shoot down, yes shoot down break i keep this question, so that's because, i understand that when i read in this, the

statement of the department of defense, that all the consequences. well, roughly speaking, we leave it on their conscience yes. here are all the possible consequences of this deliberate provocation that will lie on the side of the uk. these are not spoken, but the words that the type of guys, well, that is, if it’s below perfect, the military formula is worth shooting if i stand, they shoot, yes, yes, yes, yes, it's about it in your opinion. this is about it and it is necessary, so that the words were under the deeds there were very difficult situations when very difficult decisions were made. i think everyone remembers when yuri vladimirovich andropov was the head of the state party, we had to shoot down a south korean battle, where there were civilians , but boeing performed the task. in the interests of the western intelligence services of the west, in the interests of people with shoulder straps, this decision had to be made here, we are not talking about the civilian population, but civilians . here the choice is much simpler. you perform military tasks. this directly violates our national interests, therefore, on our land, what is important on our land, therefore, it is necessary, firstly

, in order to put a potential aggressor in place and secondly, in order to explain to our population that we are really ready to defend our territories, our borders, our interests until third. what is the interesting question, what if we go to well, chess terminology, we are obviously substituted with a piece? but we know from chess, even who does not play chess. i don't play them. i love talking about them, i play very well. even worse than so-so i know how a horse walks, in short, so, well, we are all even those who do not play chess. we understand that if a grandmaster substitutes a piece for you, then his substitute piece is included in some combination in which he knows why he substitutes it for you. he knows what is wrong, if alexei alekseevich filmed me, this is this, if you play with a grandmaster. and if you play, remember how in this very ah, gentlemen of

fortune. well, this is right there, yes, this is right there in what is the question. we should treat this like a grandmaster who deals us for some reason, substitutes a piece for us and means to calculate, or we proceed from the fact that this is the uk where the minister was brought on september 2, in general, it can become and this is like a hamster instinct, just something like this to grab. here it is ugh. so you understand the national misfortune of russia in that we have a lot of smart people, and we start poking around all the time, which means that this is what we start to think that if it’s still yes, that everyone around is too smart and that everyone around is building multi-way complex plans. we are so afraid of them, by the way. and when we see, uh, a moron who undertakes some kind of action without any sense, and a moron, by definition, only makes things worse for himself in this way, that is, they can really bring down and it is still unknown. will there be something in this situation. they, maybe, as if they were not ready, they might have

calculated how a very nasty chemical game you thought that she had an analyte tank, but she didn’t have a plane yet, it would be interesting. here, therefore, uh, here, when you play it is not clear, with whom, as it were, they say that they put a board on their ears, it is impossible to calculate. what is the correct step to take? just what you want. here i want to shoot down, but on the other hand, why, well, flew away. eh, a similar situation arises when we are discussing here already, what day is it in this studio in other studios, what did the americans do there, everything is mixed up. uh, how the witches fly flying to taipei, and uh, how much is this ten-story complex plot from three conspiracy, that is, one group comrade. whose are the republicans and democrats in congress who want to transfer taiwan to the status that used to be in afghanistan by the way, this is a significant ally outside nato, just substitute it under this very status there, it’s legal to pump weapons, it’s legal to provoke

these chinese and, uh, it means to pump up your ratings of the two-party initiative , the second, means a group of conspirators opposite, the working side. these are the military, oddly enough, who understand that stirrup chinese aircraft carriers that are in this zone there, in this region, the americans will not have enough strength, at least in order to perform beautifully. uh, and there is also a group of people who are still working in a third party, and everyone knows about it, they gradually write about it. yeah. so here's how to play with such grandmasters. this is actually a big question. well, i would say that if you really need to shoot down, if you can’t help but shoot down, this is one situation. and, if he just flies in the form of a provocation, but you might think there you can somehow just there slightly there, then lower it down, there and to press to the ground, why here, uh, why knock down a fool? i don't know why beat the fool. yes, then what kind of answer is needed then, because the chinese, but have built a system of answers in connection with the provocations that

are organized around taiwan, are throwing very strong efforts at their military presence in this zone. this is their answer. it was all ready. well , after all, with this plane, it’s unfortunate, in your opinion, is it a surrender of a figure or is it some kind of brownian movement or what? this is a test of our protection system of our protection system, purely technical or or this is our readiness, starting from the political level of the military level, and the technical level, and so on. this is system testing. this is what it's about. from the very beginning it was clear that we have a big country. and of course, sea, border, continental, border, and so on. this is one of the eternal problems of russia, because the eternal problems of russia are not fools of the road, but the large length of the borders of the

continental and sea and the population shortage in order to keep it, but i won’t do it now to develop this idea, but this is a fact that was noted even by such a story as sergei solovyov of the last century before last. so they are testing this system , you understand, that is, if we are conducting a special, limited military operation in ukraine, as at this time, what state are the others in, and points a, yes, that is, roughly speaking, security, and they will test. it 's in a variety of places. and uh, the question is not to shoot down. actually a technical question. well , planted, of course, planting is better than knocking down. at the same time, let's look at what they have inside. yes , that's how raikin said. eh, of course it's better.

it's just that in all respects this is better, and yes, the pilots actually pierce their own, and even though they are always on the other side of the front. or even during the great patriotic war, there was something like that, even sometimes they staged duels. yes, well, why shoot down? when can you plant, then, eh? but he was only escorted, but here i want to say that this one has been warned for the time being, but just for now. we talked to you. i don't know dmitry grigoryevich, maybe you heard these notes in the voice, in the course of our conversation, to the question that they just added a phrase at the end of the statements of the ministry of defense, which, well, the metal rumbles a little. yes, it rumbles a little. and who is very sick. now and now i don’t have official official confirmations, but now information has already begun to appear that a british reconnaissance aircraft has turned around, and according to this flight, radars and so on and so

forth, that is, testing is possible, about which you say, as you really said at all levels, it even starts with what kind of wording, that is, kind words, kind words and colt. that is, it will be up to a kind word . , kabura, so he grew up a little , in principle, that's what he did. instead of defending after it, it was a little bit so it did not get there to swing. yes, we just holster you so just a bit like that, that is, testing, even at this level, now the most important question is, when they tested, so if they turned around and turned around, now the question is understood that it didn’t work here or there will be some next level. yes, and it will be uh, that's it, that's what i wanted to say that a is the task of the same experts. well, of course, not like korena alexandrovna, but military experts, but also political scientists, by and large, look at what

points this may arise, i have a suspicion that they are considering several points, and quite obviously they are connected with the post-soviet space, a very complex region of the caucasus and uh-huh, and very difficult regions are tajikistan afghanistan kyrgyzstan here. these are the strings, i mean , here, and this, as it were, lies on the surface, this is what i, as an orientalist, for example, can say, that is, preparations for provocations are already visible there. i can see it and track it. i monitor what is happening there, and i understand that this does not mean that it is inevitable. this should happen, but it's high. probably i want to say this, but i'm ready to disagree with our esteemed deputies. and let's not agree with him in detail immediately after advertising advertising on channel one. you've

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operator, when acute pain makes you climb on the wall, the staff of the big red pack rushes to your aid, the staff is charged against pain, and the program time will tell, we continue to work live. in fact, in the first part of the program, we discussed, well, one of today's main news, that the british, which, in general, is quite a new story, and attacked us with a certain request for a reconnaissance aircraft to fly over our territory for a minute, but it already sounds from them to fatherland but such an anecdote something not very funny. it seems that while we were talking, he turned away and dmitry georgievich said that, in general, it was necessary, as it were, to shoot down and show, then you wanted to argue about something or object about what i mean about something else. i believe that the system of international law is law, as always, but naturally very conservative, therefore it is quite obvious that reality has become so divorced from this legal reality that they simply begin to contradict each other

, it is clear that some kind of on-duty, legal reality in the new conditions and it must be discussed. i am not saying that it is necessary to break away from legal reality and carry out fights without rules , many things must be indicated. which, by the way, in some of the e in many of his speeches, fortunately, the supreme commander-in-chief does, but this must first be introduced into the international field. at least in the formats of those organizations in which, while russia actively participates, what is the old system. now it does not work anymore, because it is completely occupied, by the same united west. and we were shut up there. roth, look. we are with you. in general, they said about it that breaking its ability is really not worth it, add add add some new ingredients to it is worth it. well, it seems to me that what we have just discussed is that, how to introduce such formulations into it, slightly newer well, how would you, of course, fly. and you know how this is the famous odessa yes. uh, humor that they

never say, don't put your hands and head out the window of a vehicle. there, they say stick out stick your head and hands out of the window of the vehicle. let's see what you will stick out tomorrow, what is the statement of the department of defense. it is precisely in line with the preservation of certain prevailing conditions of international security. yes, and so. uh, accordingly, we understand perfectly well that all these people are a provocation, there is a provocation. there we are studied and so on, but the central place where we are studied so fully on our reaction and so on. this, of course, is this ukrainian e, bridgehead, there is the main bridgehead military. now we have dmitry steshin , a war correspondent, komsomol special correspondent of komsomolskaya pravda, who, as far as i understand, has just returned from coal mining, so my first question will be about what, in fact, is happening there in our opinion. i will explain my question. we have different points of view here. someone who

writes about it says. well, at the front. here, as it were, er, it means, a viscous calm. well, someone is talking. no, it's not viscous, calm. it's like this planned military work. actually war. it is only like this now, maybe in your opinion from what you have seen, you know and think what is happening now on the line of contact. a viscous lull, wild showers of guys, there in forest plantations waist-deep in pits, with water they sit to them. even on mtlbacks , more showers sit on the belly. there will be 2 more days. and i didn't like it. that where i was, and i was where i saw, uh, with the naked eye, this coal miner, the unfortunate four streets. i didn't like that ukrainian aviation works there. the car had to be hidden here, at first just a camouflage awning, then a camouflage net on top. this is how everyone does it. and the houses do not go out onto the porch, so that it is not visible,

and the sentries are also under some kind of sheds. that is, well, not everyone, it turns out that helicopters and planes were shot down. well, not as often, of course, as ours, but they exist and they are considered as a military factor. yes it is. it's so-so, calm. what yes, what is there, what else is going on there? in addition to the fact that they have aviation, by the way, judging by the fact that they have it there working. and they don't have much left. this means that they consider this sector of the front as important for themselves. and so we see it , we consider it important for ourselves, so what is it all about, well, allies of the battalion. the east advanced under an angle. progressed so well. but as if not the whole front is moving, separate units, by the way, today the commander of the east just spoke about this, this. eh, how would we stand

side by side. uh, the battalion is under fire, if not the entire front moves, but some parts like it so figuratively said such bubbles grow. come on, the enemy immediately starts this bubble, either cut down or grind. we can keep throwing at this bubble, which means that reinforcements will also grind them non-stop. that is, well, as if in the end the report, of course, turns out to be beautiful . our progress has been made. yes, well, it doesn’t look so pleasant for losses. well, yes, our uh, advanced ones are sitting, well, enough problem areas. that is, well, for example, i can’t say much. e not even a jeep can get there by any car, only on the armor, then a certain number of kilometers running and even crawling, i don’t remember this for a long time. yes, this means that everything is very serious, ours on the edge, well, now we are waiting, when the showers end for a couple more days. but now i’ve closed it in

donetsk, it just floods everything, and it dries up a little , and i think the offensive will continue, because no one is going to stop, no one is going to take a break. let's understand. and accordingly, i understand that when you, uh, go to the front, and when such things happen at the front harsh deeds, well, on tons of the front, about which you have now told us so in general, honestly. i like it very much. and yet. eh, you still say something, but somehow they follow what is happening. that's outside these areas of the front. here we started discussing what is happening, uh, in the area around the zaporozhye nuclear power plant, and in any case, the people who live there nearby. they say something about it, they think something about it, because we all have it. as you understand. she is here for me such a psychological phobia, when we hear nuclear power plants, and we hear about shelling and

about something somewhere in the depths. the memory of the eighty-sixth year begins to stir. it doesn't matter if it's justified or not. and what do they say about it there, what do you think about it, how to this, that is, i worked in melitopol in those parts, i was interested in the fate of the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, i spoke with competent people who are waiting they won’t wait for the mmt commission, but it doesn’t go, because ukraine organized. there's fighting magatek. as far as if i'm not mistaken by the charter outside policy, yes the work of the commission, and together in the place where the fighting takes place. this already means interference in some a political processes. we are ready to wait impatiently there, because at this station they found, and they found those radioactive materials that should not be there at all, in principle, i assume that this is some kind of uh, weapon-grade plutonium made, but here these domestic reactors. and this is a very costly procedure, dear, but

few ukraine parted, who knows that she painfully parted with nuclear weapons, that is, first papers were signed that ukraine was disarming. yes, then . as they usually do. yes, just like the west. so they changed their minds. for the example with ukraine, they took out the last warheads by planes, which was strictly prohibited by security rules, but by land. they would not have been taken out of there, they simply would not have been taken out. and now i think the whole world breathed a sigh of relief, yes, not seeing bandera with an atomic bomb in their hands, by the way, the atomic disarmament of ukraine they probably already completely forgot about it financed, united states warhead disposal, challenge and so on, and actually you said a very interesting thing, uh, which i want to clarify, did i understand correctly, huh? you said that in connection with the planned visit of the iaea, ukraine staged hostilities there. i'm very interested in clarifying. so it was first planned to visit the

iaea and then the fighting began. that is, the iaea should have arrived there before and regardless of this, and the fighting, shelling - this is not a cause, but a consequence. they should have been there to come, immediately in early spring, as soon as the station came under our control, but they waited and tried to dissuade, then it means that the situation there somehow calmed down. uh, the front has stabilized. they have already gathered, if i'm not mistaken, they were supposed to arrive at the beginning of july, and then we immediately see a blow. that means two drones somehow collected from garbage and plastic bags. yes, but for a nuclear power plant, despite the fact that the reactors that are located there were calculated for the fall of an aircraft weighing 20 tons from a height of 1 km. yes, ukraine i mean, uh, that there are hostilities, and i realized that there is no public scolding. she won't get it. well, now, for a long time

from morning to night, artillery at the nuclear power plant, and no one notices it will pull up. no one is worried, as if everything is as it should be, it is clear that we need to figure it out on our own. there is only one way out . i understand you correctly in the picture that you, uh, describe shelling of the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant is not intended in any case, and not some kind of defeat there that is not disturbing. shooting is nothing. this is just creating a situation that prevents the iaea from coming there, who will see something there that they would not want them to see there, not even the ukrainians themselves, but their curators absolutely right. and well, that's all. this is against the backdrop of a media storm , and, how did you notice, how did we all notice? yes , they habitually turn it inside out. yes,

what about the mine-petals that we ourselves scatter in our donetsk, to have our children, yes, and we ourselves are also shelling a nuclear power plant. and basically, well, western society believes it. yes, it's normal for them. they don't have any. doubts in the head does not arise in this case. thank you very much dmitry indeed. you know what happens when you put a puzzle together from pieces. here is what you told us today. here is the sequence for me. at least. well , maybe i'll slow you down a bit, but for me this is a very important puzzle. in this picture, we started yesterday about this is to say, but for today you have put very important things in their places for me, that the arrival and not the arrival of the iaea and the ukrainian shelling is in a completely different connection, that the shelling is so that we are ready not to come. thank you very much for these clarifications. thank you very much for this story and about what is happening under coal and for this situation with the zaporozhye

nuclear power plant, as always, our uh, huge hello, and uh, our prayers to those with whom you will see on the front line. thank you very much. we with you. well, it’s interesting, in fact, for me now it’s like a puzzle, uh, it has developed. as a matter of fact, in line with what we were talking about. literally yesterday, this whole media storm, as dmitry so beautifully put it, is an attempt to prevent the iaea from coming there. and this is not about weapons-grade plutonium itself. do you know what that means? this means that russia was completely right when it launched a special war operation and when the president said that ukraine was a direct danger. e for russian federation, this means that ukraine has already violated international law already, uh, was ready to make either a dirty bomb, or some kind of bomb, and so on, that is, zelensky’s words were said at the munich conference. e that

ukraine plans to regain its nuclear status. it had to be taken seriously, because western actors immediately said no-no, it’s all not but now, if uh, now it’s clear why they don’t want us to be there, because we now have iron evidence that we were in in my own right, yes, and now yes, yes now, but when i say that this puzzle is thanks to this conversation with dmitry, i finally have it because i asked this question yesterday. why are they hammering here for some reason, this one here , that they are hammering and will hammer for this very reason, in order to create a situation in which the rich cannot formally come there. it is very important, and then all the news on this topic, which have fallen today, fit into it. well, the fact that all artillery shelling residential areas, energodar that is, it is now, as it were, it is clear why they are leading them, they are leading them. because if there is formally there, fighting , the mkt just can’t go there, this explains, remember this conversation, when mikhail ulyanov, our representative of international

organizations in vienna, said that, well, no one can now say when this will happen and it’s right away fine picked up and russia does not want to. that is, it means that mgt. until hostilities stop, he will not go. and that partly explains it. uh, well, in general, now he fully explains, and the words of general mezentsev about what they brought to nikopol. uh, it means that the ukrainian armed formation of 1,000 people means some kind of troops of this, that is, they simply wind up. and now i really liked this phrase, this media storm, therefore, about zelensky whom you and i listened to yesterday, but i will remind him, because now his facial expression and here is anality and what we roughly picked up there, yes, it is, as it were , explained why to him, and more precisely, to the curators about what? as a matter of fact, they are so a point. please bodiki, any radiation incident at the zaporizhzhya npp can be a blow to the eu countries and turkey

, and also to countries from more remote regions. everything depends only on the direction and strength of the wind, if a catastrophe occurs due to russia’s actions, the consequences can also hit those who are silent for the time being, it is necessary to move from discussions and calls for new tough sanctions against russia against rosatom. if now the world lacks the strength and determination to protect one nuclear plant, then this means that the world will lose there is still a chance to prevent this loss. i noticed it yesterday. that is, they told him, that is, they told him hey, if, if god forbid, they get there and find something there, how should they find it. well, just like that, now it’s clear why it’s them, and the regional administration is pumping it up. this whole story here about the fact that if there is a comrade, why will there be a comrade there? it is incomprehensible, that is, it is a media cheat, when it is said that they will have to be evacuated there and 400.000. well, let's just, well, in order not to

waste time, yes, the head of the zaporozhye regional military administration. yes, the situation. dangerous, not only not in the zaporozhye region, if you take 50 km, this is said by a person, as if someone other than the ukrainian army is threatening. this is now clear. what he winds up, which for me is not entirely clear in this design. this is what macron suddenly entered into this situation, because he spoke to zelensky about nuclear terrorism of the russian federation on zaporizhzhya. although, of course, this is a ukrainian wording. we don't know what the macron is about spoke, but in any case, against this background, he came to talk potion, maybe not in this vein on the phone. okay, that's it. well, i've arrived. i mean became a fantastic guess. yes, that means, well, let me remind you that the first strike on the zaporozhye nuclear power plant was carried out by a border, right. they showed it to us, they showed us its number,

yes, which means that it is clear who pointed correctly? yeah, this is american, covering up the traces , they said, you are not ready for everything except weapons-grade plutonium, which the ukrainians themselves may have turned out. and there is something like a weapon plutonium produced. ukrainians and sealed in appropriate containers with appropriate markings, and i had an assumption there was on this basis that this is weapons-grade plutonium from a deposit in africa, which is being developed by the french company areva. yeah, this is not german, this is the piece, and which they are now rapidly losing this region. but this is a separate topic, but it happened somewhere, if i'm not mistaken, at the end of the twentieth year in december of the twentieth year,

when i received information that some components from this particular deposit sailed away somewhere. uh, aside at you to the northeast. here, there, in short, to europe, yes, i will not name the countries now. in short, as i understand it, if there were only weapons-grade plutonium produced by the ukrainians themselves, then this would be a local task, and we are ready to come and say some kind of ah-ah-ah, everyone would have been forgotten and occupied, but this is someone's stigma there in the cannon is much more serious, but something is stored there. that absolutely should not be stored there and this means the crossing of such red lines, which, in principle, will cause a big scandal in the united states because this topic is for them. well, while they are still sacred distribution, yes, that is, you proceed from the fact that these are someone who is his conclusion to them.

thank you for what you told. i didn’t know that the macron called, then it’s all the more clear to me that the assumptions that and the information that the conversation provides has nothing to report, that is, why, against the background of this story, macro- and in this sense there can be ukrainian national news and don't lie. that maybe he really discussed it with him, he just doesn’t lose it, but he said, vova vova, something needs to be done. vova are standing there. everything else is up to you. here they stand and until the morning. this is not supposed to be, yes. so i would break the previous fundamental thoughts about the current features of the world order about what happens when everything that was impossible, and now you can have a similar case 100 years ago, when somewhere in the fifteenth year in 1900 it turned out that a million people died with all parties. it seemed completely unthinkable. and then they ate nothing. so, after that, the germans used some

strange chemistry. yes, some gases against the french, and other combatants there. and it was impossible. well, this has never happened before. can it be applied? ah, civilian aircraft. e, against e, hefty, means a skyscraper. yep, they couldn't imagine it . and now we can speak it. naturally, a nuclear power plant is used for a media storm, but other options are possible. can they really arrange chernobyl uh, the real one is it impossible? yes , that's unbelievable, but everything happens for the first time. yeah, that means 100 years after uh, this very first world war. yes, and in fact, the second one was also built by structures that banned all this. yes, it means that chemical weapons have survived oh well. there is such an office. we remember her, according to our conversations around syria, she became a felkin's office, uh, which works for one of the parties. it's just that even already. yes , that's right, the organization of health care has become a felkin's office, which works for one of the parties.

as the chinese did not try to crush it there for themselves. and now we see that, by the way, i’m rich, but i don’t know something, of course, formally, they may not come, but in conscience they should have at least some kind according to their conscience, they conscience is what i ’m talking to you artyom, no, we’re with you, but you’re talking to me, we can enlighten you to talk, we say that even here, well, rich people. there are different people there. there must be such neutrals there. idea so uh uh they would not want to believe that i am a bogatyr left. you know what's the matter. you say they are such people there, well, there is no conscience there. do you understand? this is all here again to the question of what all this is like as amity international i am sure that you will contribute international there are a huge number of, well, ideological people. and when they, being ideological people , did what they have always done and said that ukraine is engaged in deploying equipment, that

they said to these ideological people what was unthinkable for some time they said, your rapuziki step places. here, here, what we will do is to carry the international, which seems to have always been quite like that. here i am to me now international we were all wrong. sorry, they told the ukrainians that we caused you to fight a spectacle. you just understand, this is again about the question of what we are talking about, these wonderful examples of what, and much of what previously seemed unthinkable turns out to be conceivable, if we are talking about the twentieth year. now it's starting to pop up. it begins to become clear that the mechanisms that are not invented for this. they either don't work. in general, they either work for one of the parties. which again suggests that they do not work. that is, that’s all. again, some kind of cracks in this building and now it’s not clear whether they are enough, or the crack is strong and in different senses, because what yesterday hmm zelensky said is evidenced by a very serious cracking in the head, or him or in those heads on which he counts

, because, if he says, then terrorism. and the russian federation in relation to zaporozhye and if this is complete absurdity, this is the territory that we control. now, if we were talking about, with which somewhere there are the westerners of kiev. well, maybe hypothetically, people who don’t have cracks in their heads, who don’t have heads. here to crack. this is one important point. that is, it really is. e made in the expectation that no matter what nonsense he carries, those people who fueled the winds in various media storms are responsible . they will say everything that needs to be substantiated by themselves and do this propaganda work for him. therefore, i think that these are, as it were, strikes on the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant really have their purpose in that they are the arrival of the iaea well, and something else, because it's no secret that the western man in the street. this topic of ukraine has become tired, especially against the background of the fact that many different troubles are happening in europe itself and people are somewhere there and elections are taking place and people want to discuss their own problems. and

now, in order to excite the topic of ukraine , again draw attention to it. the nuclear power plant is best suited, therefore, not only about zaporozhye, if we are talking about, well, about kursk, about that, uh, gangster raid, which was e carried out in relation to the kursk nuclear power plant. uh, the western layman is so uh, everything. he quickly forgets that it is very important to cling to what he still remembers. and why would they remember about chernobyl? this is a kind of horror story for them, they have already made feature films based on us. what was not around this topic, so this is really a media storm but wider. only in order to prevent the iaea from coming, but also to justify the next injections into the kiev regime in front of their own inhabitants or their own taxpayers. by the way, just now you were talking about the fact that here is a western inhabitant. i've been sitting down on my thoughts now, but i understand that this is probably already somewhere. i'm so driven slowly, but look, remember when there was a story with violins. we talked about the fact that in order to make it better, the western public bought, and the whole story with the

poisoning of the violins took about six months. before that , the series was shown with almost the same content. that is, roughly speaking, there was an informational substrate, that is, they show a series and then events happen six months later. and now you were saying, i thought, after all, this series is chernobyl , which was literally quite recently. he also stirred up the plast, which, in theory, was already more or less forgotten. and now they are fresh again. this is all a little bare and it hasn’t passed, even one and a half to two years. and here's nate again. that is, these stories about nuclear power plants can again be steered, but nevertheless, they enclose everything. sorry. alexei puts a straw to himself to pay attention that the germans, when the story happened with the patient. yes, they said that he was poisoned with a military, poisonous substance. i asked my american colleagues, why did the germans set you up like that? here aha all with a zapatom. why framed? i say, excuse me, military, poisonous substances and a substance

of mass destruction. if they said that he was poisoned there by some substance of the individual , this is normal. and for some reason they said, this, that is, the germans spread straws for themselves. they said deliberate absurdity. is it really only i who paid attention to this, but you know, in fact, these same puzzles you see how interesting it is for me. it's only now that it's real. or maybe it's a pure coincidence, but western viewers. he has these wide screenings of this very chernobyl. you know how the contacts were preliminarily cleaned with sandpaper and now he has all these stories about zaporozhets. do you remember how they were frightened by chernobyl. it's literally in february. uh, in uh in march. yes, the chernobyl branch, but i remind you that the situation with violins. as you said, they varnished the real death of a real woman, who, a month later, allegedly found something there, a bottle of some kind was splashed, and that's it. hello that is, in principle, the

media storm, it turns out, it can be quite artificial. yes, some years ago , uh, during a show, they discussed uh, the situation that arises in europe uh, but uh, they said that well, it can't be, because there is no leader who would do it. i am hinting, of course, at hitler, and for me the historical parallels are now very direct. why because look , zelensky's european american politicians' infatuation is now reaching its climax, despite the fact that there are signs that yes. charm and so on. i'm now getting especially excited, because this is separately a very interesting moment the funding is unrestrained. and it seems to me, by the way, that these 11 12 billion, which ukrainians are now saying before the end of the year - this is the last funding, because it will be difficult to explain further, why all this is happening, and hitler was inspired by zelensky's territories inspired by money. eh, it’s difficult to offer something here, but, nevertheless, with money, and

zelensky is absolutely russophobe, that is, the anti-russian anti-russian orientation is obvious here, that is, you see direct parallels, but this is still not up to the fuhr. hmm and me it seems that e americans are europeans when this project was launched. and this is by all indications. the same project that was launched at the beginning of the thirties of the last century against the bolsheviks is in soviet russia, but now it’s time x because now this man is zelensky. he can get out. from under control like hitler came out uh in the last century. and so much of what is happening now is monstrous inhuman, such as the bombing of the nuclear power plant there to threaten with nuclear blackmail. and so on. all this already indicates that a person is getting out of control, now attention, guys. how will you control it? i don't believe he is crazy. i can see how outwardly, uh, he has an inner world. he is already external

coming out he is reflected in the look is reflected facial expressions are reflected. basically. he became some other remained completely different made others i don’t know became and did. here, it seems to me that the degree of control over zelensky by our western partners. well, not ours. yes, it is greatly exaggerated, this person is already entering a phase when he has a bite to do, when they begin to blow up power lines already on the territory of the russian federation, when attacks begin on and so on and so on and so on, and this situation is now x and it is necessary. in my opinion, demand from our western partners, either withdraw your dog, or show that you control him. and if you do not control it, well, for example, we will figure it out ourselves. uh-huh it's like how there we will explain it to our partners. and they won't listen. advertising on channel one care

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one subscriber operator megafon and low prices can simply be said. yes, you can lower them. check out the low prices for one and a half thousand items in pyaterochka we continue to work live. by the way, today we started talking about this british plane, which they said that it means our military will fly through our space. it means a little. they said that like guys, well, better

not, he turned around. now, my editors, anyway, found out that it turns out to be this plane, and it has been flying along this route for 4 days. that is, he flew across europe over black. sea, turned around. yes, what, what, what , as i understand it, he flew on the tenth. here it is flew on the twelfth. that is, roughly speaking, some kind of story. eh, it's not that it's a one-time idiotic thing that they're working on something like that there . well, here, these are just screenshots, what is called now, they did it. i mean, it's not , uh, it's some kind of story in progress. well, some kind of plan is another matter, that after what alexei alekseevich said to me, that in general, well, i caught myself thinking that, in general, there are some parallels. uh, it’s another matter to draw parallels for everything , but in general, the cultivation of ukraine and zelensky, uh, into such a kind of similarity, but this one crazy, e furet and and and and gradually with slutsky’s waving ukraine there are many parallels, and

here the question arises that and regardless of whether this is so or not, the forces that are interested in this just as in the thirtieth year the forces were interested in growing hitler they go very strongly questions arise. and who is with us? well , you were talking about the post-soviet space of the knee. yes, that is, it would seem like space, which, well, is our very best. in general, here we are in opposition to these forces, on whom we can now count on, well, roughly speaking, from the army and navy besides yourself. you said there the transcaucasus central asia and there, in general, everything is more likely, whose will be in your opinion. well, with each country, after all, separately, because in most cases, especially in the south, we are dealing with relic and rather ancient ethnic groups with such a concentration. yes, that's focal perception. actually. the history of ethnicity

identity and so on has passed 30 years. there is no soviet union which is the russian empire, which developed, as it were, this imperial attitude and so on. all who supported the empire ended up in the capital or in large cities of the empire. that's why there was a negative selection. don't let people take offense at me. not in the sense that these are some stupid bad people, but that is precisely why the principle, so all these 30 years have been happening here, well, each one needs to be dealt with. the fact is that here i have breaks to all the structures that are so lynch provided, but as it were. this is the whole field of interaction in the formats of the cis yes, uh, csto and so on. mida, well, it doesn't work it's all. so you need to understand that it does not work. for example, now i'm quite obviously and in georgia,

in armenia, and clearly quite me, direct information, just fresh, just how much more active. and russian russophobia. in these places, they went there, a systemic position that hates russians more than any non-russian russophones will lead to this local population. here , uh, russians who came from russia, because there is also a backlash. they are fed up, that is, their activities in the same way as ukrainian refugees, with which they are there in place, but interact, but, they still work and a drop of stones is a point and at the same time, we need to deploy from my point of view, of course, lyalya will not work. although culture. this is very important and i'm all for and so on. we need to develop infrastructure projects. we are with

georgia despite the absence of diplomatic relations. we supply electricity there. through georgia, communications go to the same armenia, which, after all, is there on the territory. our military base and the supply of peacekeepers, mainly goes through armenia and not through azerbaijan through azerbaijan, too, but less. that is, the way we interact with georgia works in georgia. our company interval. well, i must say that all the time the special military operation, the georgian leadership was surprisingly attentive to this. yes , they did not impose sanctions, and they not only did not introduce them. they are well articulated. they said it wouldn't be quite right, so there are new chances. you have to work with this. we must see. what companies work there. and if they're bad they worked, but they did not work well, because in the same inter rao that announced the construction of, say, five transformers, and 15 transformer

stations built 5, but here in moscow no one even checks this. this is a medical fact. i am a poor man, please, i have this information. do the locals see it? ugh you understand. well, why then put those or leave those people who work there and just like that. well, i'm sorry embezzlement, okay but tell me please, this is specific. you are already in direct, i am i assure you that everything that is here, as it is said and sounds, is everything. here is dmitry georgievich, yes, yes, those who have been working there for a long time, because they are in complex trusting relationships with the former elite, mainly saakashvili's. oddly enough , partially repainted and in people this all raises big questions. and what does russia want already? a. i will return to this now, but i do not want to pass by one topic that just sounded

also within the framework of the program. this is about zelensky, who took a bite of the case, you understand, it seems to me that on me meaning and seek the answer to the question. so he bit the bit or is he controlled by the west? yes, the whole point is that the west needs him to have such a snack on the case. he doesn't mind. zapada bit them. he bit them against us, it will be very profitable for him at some point in time. it is possible to imagine that all this is the result. that zelensky is so frostbitten, and i do not rule out that someday we will pretend that we agree with this, that the point is not that the west incited him, but that he was so frostbitten, because what otherwise, it may well become a matter of a third world war. so here's how he would have a bite to do. well, you say, it seems to me that the issue is already underway in the very hybrid forms that we are talking about there, but still there are hot phases of the war. so far, it has reached conditionally, because while it is localized for us, it is, uh, too fateful to seem universal, but sorry for

the big world. it's still a regional conflict. here it is necessary, well answer questions, to be honest, the feeling is a huge amount. on post-soviet space i agree, i'm just naming two names. eh, zurabov and chernomyrdin, everything is like ambassadors in kiev. clear. what a huge number of omissions were made on various contracts, but nevertheless it says that the dcb did not take place, that this organization has not been performing very important functions for whole years, i would not agree with this dcb. in my opinion. good perspective. by the way, the events around kazakhstan - it was known. well, i'm still expressing my point of view and trying to defend yes, the existence of this organization and i repeat it. i think that its prospects are more significant. than even the experience that i have accumulated today, well, since cooperation, a relatively new person works there yevgeny primakov was our colleague on the duma committee for a short time, though on international affairs, but you know with

such budgeting. what kind of growth of cooperation is ridiculous to expect from them, but serious results in solving the most serious problems. therefore, if we want this organization to open up. so these are again questions or assumptions, either we are working, either we are depicting work, or progression. this is just one of the examples. ugh good. i understand how small the budget of rossotrudnichestvo is. we have huge organizations, registered in the ministry of justice, all sorts of communities of the very countries with which we cooperate, they could have cooperated for a long time. at least it could conclude some interesting agreements with them. they could create a fund, into which they would pour additional funds in order to carry out certain programs. good? understandably? yes, as dmitry georgievich said, this is a regional conflict for many, you know? he, of course, yes. he, of course, may

be looking at us regionally, generally speaking, the whole world. this raised questions about who they are, so our allies are potential and not potential , you understand if you have a small one. the state is not at all ashamed to sit under a snag. as long as possible , because uh some big ones can fall over, yes, small ones sit and watch, but uh, enough time has passed to already see but at least the first reaction is that they look that russia, uh, holds on once russia is a country that does not give up its two. this is what i am talking about syrian history and draw conclusions. in the end, it means, uh, well, i'll say the obvious. here are our maneuvers with the chinese military, which you should start to involve 38 states. well, there is someone, a little bit, someone seriously, this is india there and venezuela, and who only does not take part there. let it be symbolic. well, and finally, 70 countries that are now represented at our military exhibition and at subsequent conferences are also in

allies. but it is those who are actively watching draw conclusions. good? yes? yes, but not partizans, but such sympathizers, but such sympathizers, but, which partizans are you like, well, like we are for you, well, let's see what you are there, well, then it's normal. yes? here we are for you later, yes, that is, that is, first the chairs, we see, yes, we did it first and in this sense, you understand, this is another very important question for me. and here is what you said about rossotrudnichestvo and what you say that everyone is watching and looking closely. it also puts on agenda. well, every day it raises, but on different occasions, the question is that when they look at us and wonder. who are you and what do you want? and what are you doing? this is also the question of , and we are completely inside ourselves, yes , we figured it out, we understand who we are inside ourselves. here is the situation, well, this is yesterday's news. it is developing today. here is russia today, which organized a series of poetry evenings, and the

poets who were supposed to read poems about a special military operation that was looking for this site. in the city of moscow and in the city of moscow , several sites refused, and no one told them. guys, let's you hang banners there z, let's you yourself collect someone's program. there is no support. all that was required was that on their site other people organize this poetic story in support of their own. there were sites that refused. well, the guys got scared, what, and the guys got scared, what about oh, look? yes, these are very important words to say, that is, if we have guys who are here in moscow for something they are cowardly, refusing to have poems read on their platform by the support of our military. this also suggests that everything is somehow very well, well, it doesn’t say anything, what are they cowardly about. explain to me, alexei alekseevich trusit most likely. well, i think it's, of course, the owners of these sites, because they are afraid of sanctions, uh, sanctions

are afraid, damn it, of culture, and it doesn't matter, there are horns and hooves that are afraid of sanctions. i mean you as the owner, or the shareholders have real estate, they have assets. you understand? yes? spend it there a special operation or a poetry evening and you will be interested in the corresponding yuseiji embassy. it hasn't gone anywhere, they are vigilant on the territory of the capital of our motherland, moscow, they work. people for whom, for whom, someone canceled. well, where did he not go anywhere, and now they have been put down. here in different cargoes, there are the baltic states and so on. where did they go? they returned to moscow quiet boots returned to moscow everything. they are already in progress. they say they're quiet, but that's the kind of thing they don't play. this is immediately visible. it immediately lacquer paper. and this is how it comes about. i have the following question. this is a litmus test, and we should treat it like this, well, from the series they cut the forest. chips fly, of course, that is, this is a natural process, that they will be and we, as it were,

well, not well, especially since, as i understand it, i already wrote there that when this story became known there were dozens. venues themselves began to offer. and this is such, you know, an accompanying story. or we should somehow . well, somehow, i think they're on their own already punished. that's it. such behavior. they have already punished themselves, because their attitude to this has become obvious to everyone. so i don’t know what kind of face a number of ours have there. uh, representatives of show business, culture, there is a song, damn it, go back. i don't know how i will turn off the tv. just when they will perform, the organizers of the projection did not apply. they definitely did not apply, for example, to the yeltsin center, because they would definitely not be allowed in there. by the way, not only continues to work, but are also going to open branch in moscow so we have, you know, with the fifth column, how everything was not bad. so it's all good. this is worth it today, therefore, when we make claims to our potential allies or sympathizers there

, first, we must really develop ourselves within ourselves. here is venezuela, she rushed into the arms of mr. baydonu, despite the fact that signals went from there we will buy your oil, how did they respond to these curtsy in relation to caracas from washington and they were an ambassador who worked. here in the russian federation carlos frio. summoned to caracas and appointed minister of foreign affairs. in venezuela, everyone knows that he is from a communist family and a great sympathizer of the russian federation. this is the same signal. these are people who do not have a large potential for economic nuclear weapons. such things have taken a very serious position. you need to be able to appreciate this truly friendly position. good house of pioneers. actually, a very good house of pioneers. well, there are other options. this is a good house of pioneers. but then within some. well, we do not like the word within some coordinate system and system of values, someone has to say, you know here with us now, as it were, that we are not on our way with this. let there be a house of pioneers. no, the house of children's creativity. good house of children's

creativity. but it still has to be decided by someone within the framework. something is the same. this question was posed by the state, which is true, comrade stalin called one of his bosses . listen, you say, built yourself a good cottage. thanks a lot. it will fit very well there . house of pioneers. everything and no one is nothing will say. political will is called political , it’s already necessary yes, political will, and this kind of it , uh, relatively speaking, is due to the fact that, well, the process is no longer avertable, but you are sure that everyone has an idea that the process is inevitable, because this is the story that so many are waiting, that everything will somehow still resolve and return as it was, but it's there. and that this is their hope and this is the christ of the country. these are their phantom pains. if you want to. you yourself started the transfer became. they said everything

will be different, not back, as before, not will be. that's all. that's a great verdict, you really need to uh, learn from it and move on. and move on. it means doing bold acts of action that lead to the fact that we used to be embarrassed to do it. and now it's not necessary. now you don't have to be shy. you just have to do it otherwise it will have the opposite effect. after all, people. this is exactly what most of you are waiting for. the population is not what we will appease, but those who hesitate, leave, come back and forth, militarize people expect that, on the contrary, there will be assessments and they are given uh relevant and we will indeed move further forward something. well, this is a very important story, that people are waiting, people are waiting, and they can get tired of their expectations. not only people are citizens of the russian federation who have constitutional rights, who have a guarantor, but you understand that you will immediately be told by other citizens who do not agree, who want to distance themselves. they also made a choice. they left. all those who returned the summons to them in

shumerlya are nobody in this. remember. yes, the choice has arrived. yes it's good. this country is different well. get in. well, look here, as soon as we start talking about ourselves. clear. that's as soon as we talk about adversaries about flight radars about international systems. everything seems to be so clear and understandable, as soon as you start talking about yourself. you do not understand. here, like here, like here, uh, how it would be necessary to put pressure, and you think, is it necessary or not necessary for our people. these are not our people. they don't agree, but they still know now. how do you define ours or not ours. here, here, you know what it is or not ours. what is the criterion support or not support of one's own no but what about the people who walked the same roads with us, but listened to different music and communicated with other friends. perhaps, just imagine, if you are any normal person who has a circle of friends, there, well, 30 people are more difficult to withstand, some have a wider circle of friends, if he has a wife,

children, two friends in the saddle, then all measurements are against the war for the west, then this person you have to make a feat to get out of it all. this is our man. e from the concept of how a feat, of course, not good, but i want to wait for him to do it, look, because, uh, this whole story, uh, with visas. well, that's the one we're discussing with you last. after all, these are stories based on the fact that they want what they want, 95% of the citizens there. it’s not so important that if we find a needle that we prick there, two or three percent, including those fired, there are visas for the stakes, i don’t know, what with real estate cheats, and so on. these two three five percent. these are the percentages that hoo what percentages. parties see the point is that the act with visas - this is an act of nazism - this is discrimination based on ethnicity . this is a sign of nazism. this needs to be voiced. it is necessary to present this to the countries that are acting. they are silent with a rag, as our foreign ministry does, forgive me for the expression, understand all of yours, this is not a problem at all, in general,

because this is a restriction. it's illegal . everything they do. but this is illegal on the one hand, and on the other hand. they answer us. and even in a sense, you decide you are either on your own and you have your own values ​​and you do not care about the west, or as soon as you decide values. you immediately start to get angry. you decide very expensive. this is their very big one. uh, science is very short. here, uh, in the conditions of the operation. i see how, judging by this controversy, in general, how painfully the national elite is born. yes, i didn’t have it in russia. i exactly about it who? am i straight? i'm not talking about individuals. citizens who understood something were adequately characterized, and there is one more point that i would very much like to touch upon. you see when such abrupt situations arise, such a polarization on a patriotic theme is also wanted by various m-m graphomaniacs. uh, sit down, you know,

so, of course, it's very serious. this is generally a state matter, a state matter. show me the way out. leonardo is unworthy of his creations of other orders until you finish the tomb. i will do everything myself i do not need assistants for the

85th anniversary of andrei konchalovsky i create beauty for depraved tyrants and murderers. the information channel on channel one continues its work time will show. i am artyom shenin, and we are now starting with the news that we started with in the morning, but it has a development. remember in the morning we started with footage from the crimea a with explosions in the dzhankoy region with a message that sergey alexandrov had gone there closer to dinner a statement

from the ministry of defense appeared a in which the word sabotage appears. and in which the word sabotage appears in relation to infrastructure facilities, moreover , after we went off the air, another message appeared. in this case, the fsb which also exists, uh, in which the mention of sabotage also appears, a and it is already said specifically, because in the first case it was said sabotage, but it was not very much to the end. it is clear that this is sabotage with the help of some kind of apparatus or with the help of saboteurs. it is already specifically stated here that ukrainian saboteurs blew up power transmission towers coming from the kursk nuclear power plant. and, as i understand it, there were several such cases, and uh, we have already begun a conversation. e, even before the messages from kursk and now i want to continue it, because it seems to me that this is quite a reason for him that somehow a large number is again observed. the intersection of the next some red lines

, or maybe this is no longer a red line, maybe this is already a red line that remained behind and the question of the reaction of options in two is very important, or, roughly speaking, we are discussing some kind of raising option feedback, and then you need to discuss some kind of and we say, well, you understand, this is such a complex conflict. we have, as it were, understandable complex opponents even more complex even more understandable. e, the curator of this enemy and therefore each our answer. eh, it's kind of good for them . well, there is also such a version that if we begin to respond symmetrically, that is, the enemy hits civilian infrastructure, and we begin to slowly increase the response, then, well, we play into someone's hands, but on the other hand, and not also impossible to answer. in general, it is not very clear to me what to do with this, but some kind of intelligible position needs to be worked out. yes, it means

that we will definitely not answer them symmetrically, that is on their nuclear i emphasize sabotage. we arrange nuclear sabotage against robinsk. with and so on suits are not going to. we do not need this, we will respond, but seven, yes, we must, we must respond asymmetrically, but the tougher they act in general, the tougher. we, if at all, have set the teeth on edge, and the phrase has been crammed with blows to the decision-making center. but if we arrange a nuclear trade, we should do it, will it play into the hands? well, ukrainian propaganda and western propaganda can, of course, this story play somewhere. plus, the russians are hitting our heroic president zelensky personally there, and so on. yes, for god's sake, let them win back, but those people who sit in the general staff, who sit in the hut in the ukrainian ministry of defense. they will realize that they are no longer invulnerable. this will be a kind of deterrent for some intersections remaining on the red line. for them. you are my opinion, you should proceed from the fact that they are independent in making decisions. here

i have no doubts that sabotage groups that worked on the infrastructure around the kursk nuclear power plant could not work there without receiving a visa from non-kiev curators, not those who sit at the bank and sit in the general staff very briefly literally. they are not independent in making decisions, but they can be independent in the initiatives that they put forward by their sponsor, and this will make them much more careful in these initiatives. yes, it's a completely different story. look at the united states of america, they are very actively took part of the management under themselves, only part, but most of today belongs to the british, the british. very scrupulous. they have a very clear every decision means that you get the money. you must definitely fulfill my will, then you will receive the money, everyone is working out the plan. you understand what 's the matter. they did reflex like this pavlov's dog money in exchange for saliva, if it went money

went so today it's power lines look every time interesting too, what is called facility infrastructure. after all, the task is very simple, remember in 2016, maxe analyzes how many good and worthwhile interesting objects are in ukraine. she counts them, and also counts them. why did they need it. how much does a major overhaul cost? how much does restoration cost. and how much does maintenance cost, and why was it necessary in the sixteenth year of mackins, a good company, they know how to do it, they conduct an audit. and they do it with children so that they can continue to play this big war. and now you understand perfectly what they expect from us guys. well, fuck off come on, come on, come on, come on, come here. you understand what's the matter. this is purely such an anglo-saxon approach. you understand, i don’t understand it, but understanding, and it’s me then, in response to this, well, the logic i understand, i say ok. and we say that they expect us to make a mistake and answer. and they have already calculated everything, and they

only expect this from us. and then i ask you questions. many ask a question. that is, what we say. not guys, we are not being led. we are so smart please do what you want no no no no, we punish them through others you can't punish a dog without punishing the owner. well, you understand, well, this is nonsense. well, the truth is, you're talking red lines. yes, there are no red lines, they are behind the back of the red line. we need to get these red lines out of our eyes to understand, well, a simple one can still turn off the valve quietly. you can limit friendship a little. you do not want to buy guys under friendship. well, you don't need this pipeline, please. we can, with the help of simple diplomacy, hit very hard. again we ask question, but in the logic in which he proposed it, which, roughly speaking, are our actions with which we will punish someone. or maybe they will hurt those whom we will punish. yes, we will bang someone there in the bank or in the general staff. we will turn off the valve to someone in europe and you first. listen . you told me that it was the americans who transferred part of the control to the british, but

the fact is that our closed valve, not to the americans, let alone the british , gets the british out of the british, and the british are quite decently they took our gas through holland yeah, so these british people get the blocked gas. not to mention the fact that the world markets i apologize that i interrupt one thing, and if there is less russian oil in europe, then it will be russian oil, then oil. not russian will be more expensive for everyone. i understand about oil, about gas, we'll talk more. that is, accordingly, you agree with the version that it is necessary not to conduct. on what they pull us out we raise the stakes, yes, but to raise the stakes and enter from somewhere, you know, i am often asked, when the special military operation ends. oh , how i understand you, i also have an answer. it will start in a year. after it ends a year after we start it for real. yep, full force. we are now thinking what uncle peter will think and what aunt wyden will think. and what will she say about us, mrs.

arrestovich, and so on. this is all nonsense. this is the learned syndrome, learned helplessness, which is very characteristic of all kinds of slaves. we have three tasks three three first deal with owner. quite right. to do this, you need to stop the supply of all raw materials, without which they cannot live. this is for the states of uranus for the world markets. the chips are sapphire substrates. not he and e for europe - this is gas mineral fertilizer for everyone else - this is the first now. that's just the first point then the question to the second third i give a question, if we act on the first point conditionally speaking, given who pulls the thread. here are these idiots who are sitting in kiev, the number of attacks on our infrastructure and the weapons that will be handed over for this will grow or shrink. why did one of the hypotheses shrink? why have all the volume of deliveries to weapons been reduced? well, all railway facilities are crammed with

red pencils, so that our red line is crossed out, which endlessly helplessly holds. here, uh, about kiev freaks, you understand? yes, indeed they have a conditional reflex and the muck made the money received, that the instinct of self-preservation works against this, of course. they say that the scientists of rosnan made a coffin, in which the stolen can be taken with you to the next world, but russia is likely to export these coffins. at the very least, ukraine will not be in the foreseeable future . died decided to die for the tenth time to tenths with the swordsmen. it won't come any other way. yes, you understand, it’s like with the drug trade, if the trade is not shot on a large scale, then it will flourish, because no considerations other than death work at a certain level of profitability. ugh everything. this is what as far as respected ukraine is concerned, some, as for

us, i am. i will finish very shortly now. and you see, we always forget about us, love us. yes, we are now going to import iranian cars after iranian drones. iran showed us that it turns out that it is possible to develop from pain with tough sanctions, than we are now and it would be nice to start developing ourselves, because yes, of course, we can think about when we are done with ukraine and that the west will go somewhere when we are done with ukraine it will settle down, we will have friends there, how we work, and no matter how the european caliphate, he will not be our best friend. uh-huh, we don't prepare shots for him. yes, you don’t have anything to prepare now, a social, military operation. the talk doesn't end here. for me, in a broad sense , these special military operations have no borders either. it will end, but ukraine and our war with the west in ukraine has not ended, therefore, we

need to have a very powerful industry. and in order for it to be powerful, we need to reduce costs within the country to provide cheap credit to provide normal protection of our industry with tariffs to stimulate the export of processing, manufacturing industry everything that you say is fair and correct, and so on and so forth, you know what is the difference between the first and second parts we we their speeches the first part is about west we have been talking about this for 11 years. about what is needed, so to speak, to kill the killers, we are in relation to the ukrainian nazis. we talk about it for eight minutes, well, the active phase is six months. we are talking about it we are talking. and about the fact that if we do not develop the country, but if we destroy it, then no one will reckon with us. we have been talking for 35 years, everything is clear, but i say that i am here with this kind of strategic statement of yours about what needs to be developed. i agree with this, but now i’m still interested, because there is this news and it needs to be turned over. we need to recode an entire people, which we can disenchant for our needs. and for

this he needs to show the image of the future. now they say, guys rather than your oligarchs differs from ours a little less blood, like on bones, here is further on the bones that's what that's just to the fact that you found a very true image, that we need to recode or disenchant enchanted and the whole people the image is actually not even the people but part of them of our people and a prototype of the future. here the question arises again, returning from the beginning of our program about tools, since we understand that this people is now bewitched and in a sense they are driven, that is, well, it’s like arms and legs, like them, but in fact we understand that those who have bewitched them with legs and arms and move and further the question arises. if we hit on the arms, legs or even on the heads, then in fact. we hit the doll. and because who pulls. won. we have it here, the pictures are not in vain all drawn, here, but to the one who pulls the strings it’s not a fact that it

harms, and maybe even helps, but the destruction mechanism and now the question arises, but the mechanisms for destroying the mechanism. this is economic okay, we are not talking about sabotage. here just a simpler and more human, frankly , question that i get asked regularly. eh, when i'm there. and when they come to me , people write about it, whom i know, whom i don’t know, they say, we are for them. and we support correctly that we started the operation. well, we live in donetsk, and somehow, before the start of a special military operation, we had shelling. well, they were, well, for 8 years, we live under them, but now somehow there are slightly more of them. but that's okay, we are ready to endure, because we are adults, we understand war. but we say they don't really understand and somehow you have to explain to us. here we are sitting under increased shelling. okay, we understand, but when we see that at the same time in kiev in lviv and in odessa beach parties are

swimming season. and this is all that we now see, as if on the screen they say, we don’t really understand, that is, if we kind of started to deal with it hard, then why are they dealing with us hard, and there i have this there is no answer to this question. i'm trying to tell them. what do you understand, right? as soon as we create. that's why, right away, we seem to become like them, and, perhaps, they expect this from us and other arguments will appear, and so on and so forth, but for me this does not always sound convincing. you know , for the last third century in russia, at various levels , such a syndrome has been constantly observed before its not forty- first year before june forty-first. and all of a sudden it's a provocation. yeah, let's not, but let's not make waves. and let's see this. it is born by different factors, but in principle, it is

such a desire to minimize actions or inaction to pretend that nothing is happening, justifying this by the fact that, what if someone provokes us at the beginning of the forty-first year. yes , provoked in self-provoked. yes, when even on june 22, in many parts they did not know, but this is a provocation or this is a war, therefore, all the same, in my opinion. the main point is to overcome this syndrome. this is the first and the second. here the second concerns how to overcome this syndrome the second. there was such a woman, she was art. studying mass society, in particular. she concluded. but she is there totalitarianism tried to explain that in a mass society the center of attraction for the manifestation of power is the one who shows power, that one causes attraction to himself, the one who survives horror, that one arouses sympathy. yes, in this regard, in the first year in september, what

borscht did, it turned around and turned it on to anyone. it was here. it's not that afghanistan had nothing to do with skyscrapers at all. here the thing was that he showed that we do not hesitate, and we are so powerful that do not come close unless we hit the real it doesn’t matter to the organizer, because if we hit on those who were not involved, then it doesn’t matter, like a manifestation of force from this point of view. why because when one side blows up the skyscraper? b or e lines transmission vector, the main thing its task, in addition to causing material damage, is to show e, we can, but they are powerless. they don't know where to answer. they think that the one who thinks for a long time loses, because in the political struggle , among other things, is important. the reaction speed of the blow, may not be very strong, but quickly, or maybe not

strong, but delayed, and then it's much worse, therefore, it's with the cities of western ukraine i'm not a supporter of turning khreshchatyk into ruins , my father is from kiev i'm ethnically ukrainian in general, but the laws of war are as follows, either you show strength, or you start to think, that this is impotence in this regard, of course, we need strikes both on the performers and on the organizers, which are different in this case, regarding what will cause damage to each of them, but a blow to it is important in order to wean the performers from performing what is from you now look sergey felitovich. i want to be with you. well, not just to play the game, well, to simulate the situation. see. right now we'll go out there in a couple of minutes to advertise. so i went to the advertisement, as always, took the phone. and suddenly they call me on this phone saying, hello. we are right here. you have such a wonderful person on the air right now. here is an ethnic ukrainian, chernyakhovsky, in my

surname, and he said such wonderful things there, but you did not let him finish. this is how he correctly told everything about the blows and the percentage of reaction. and can you ask him now what to do? here here now here ask him. here, well, just so that you ask me, i, as it were, go on the air, the advertisement has already passed. this is generally such a genius for such nanotechnologies. and i'm telling you, sergei branch office called me here. where should you call and ask. what to do, and you will answer . i let them invite. tomorrow i will talk to him, they invited me well, everything was dragged out. i am they, i am talking about her, crimea will be discussed on the air the technical side of the issue, but she will all you want me to say is to bomb, the brooklyn bridge, well, actually, or make it blow up. they made it so that the bmp was torn down. for example, you realized that it was not necessarily m. and this is not

important. well, what can i tell you one thing, you proved to me that you are indeed an ethnic ukrainian. we continue to work live. we are talking about the fact that in today's news there is a statement by the ministry of defense of sabotage in crimea and the federal security service about the actions of saboteurs, and against the infrastructure of the electric power of the kursk nuclear power plant. we actually started to discuss the essence of the matter. well, not so much technology. how much the ideology of retaliatory strikes, that is, from what, based. we should not even retaliate , but reaction. yes, based on what we should act on, that there is this ukraine on pupae, with the help of which some curators. well, we understand that these are some american british curators. ah, who with the help of it solve

some problems and every blow, which is this here, so to speak, is a doll, a, which strikes us a doll in the interests of those who pull the strings and our every blow. uh, the response that we calculate. which we inflict on her, we must understand, and shock worn by this doll, it is beneficial to those who pull the strings or it harms. when you tell me about what exists and so on complex i'm with you on the one hand, i agree on the other hand. i open the news and understand that the curators have already there are some problems with raising funds for the management of this doll of those same money which, by and large. they must have some problems in it, and then i wonder if, among other things, some next line is being crossed, so that calls that ukraine

needs to be helped with money again acquire some sound. now i will let you listen to a certain polish report, listen to you a certain polish report, which for me is evidence for me that they have these problems with money and motivate them. those donors potential them becomes more and more difficult. listen. here. listen, listen, ukraine will need more and more military and financial support from foreign partners and the importance of us leadership will only grow, but at the same time, the dialogue camp led by germany, france and italy will gain more and more influence, putting pressure on ukrainian authorities in order to resume negotiations with russia , moreover, in european public discussions, especially in germany, one can increasingly hear that it is russia that needs help in overcoming the current situation. the polish analyst says that the next thing for us is that it is increasingly difficult for us to mobilize everyone to help the russians. we have already formed

a kind of relatively speaking camp, to help the ukrainians , we have already formed, he says, he is a kind of camp that is not even sure is it worth doing and at that moment the shelling of zaporizhia begins, and sabotage against the kursk nuclear power plant begins i like sabotage in dzhankoe and so on and so forth let's say we somehow harshly answer, and they it becomes easier to collect this money logic weigh logic so that it becomes harder for them to collect, for example, because they will not have this money , but then it's not screaming. no, no, i started, i didn’t start with christening them, but it’s about khreshchatyk, more precisely, about the sbu in kiev, the sbu in every ukrainian city, the general headquarters of ukraine and all other targets that for some reason we don’t hit, that is, emphasis. this is a question about the performers, when will the conditioned reflex command the west fulfilled and died.

yes, then they can collect. how much money they will not work and the money will be stupidly stolen, and they will not give exhaust. in addition, you understand, in addition to the wonderful west as partners, they are still called by us . yes, and there are still there are two more things that we must understand, firstly, these people have stolen $300 billion from us, this $300 billion can be given to the fascist regime of ukraine at any time so that they do not give this money away. they need to be taken away. and to do this, they must be put in a stalemate, the second. we have objective tasks, in addition to polish analysts and the fact that it is blown away by polish analysts and even american ones in what they think, we have active analysts saying that we have difficulties in mobilizing allies to help ukraine, which means, in addition to the difficulties in europe in addition to the complexity in russia, as the complexity in ukraine is, there are objective tasks that we need

to solve. in particular. we need to free nikolaev odessa in order to get rid of the threat of destruction of transnistria together with our citizens that i'll give hanging home with a sword, how are we going to liberate, nikolaev odessa if we still have light in ukraine in ukraine there is television in ukraine there is everything that we saw, it's not a question of whether there will be pulling or not there will be sabotage work against russia, there has been and will be, unfortunately, thank god that we have begun to recognize. it was then that for half a year they were talking about pops, about smoke, about oh, we again had some kind of strange accident. who was born like this was not. and here again it will all be this a question for the secret services. how to catch it? but apart from that. if you want not to be beaten, you must wear such blows that

it would be scary to even think about sending some kind of drg to you, not only in kiev but also in washington, see, firstly, a firstly, yes, he gives a fitting, if the doll is broken, it will take time to either subdue or replace it, which is already in our favor, therefore, high-level performers must always be beaten. yes, 1 2 by type, we don’t need answers, of course de-energizing the whole of ukraine to create a humanitarian catastrophe there is against it, because it will always become easier absolutely correctly, then it will be easier to justify, but, but thinking against transport. this will be enough. let's breed up to the light in ukraine is one thing, but a strike on military-industrial facilities and a military-industrial center is another commuter train decision. no need to touch commuter trains that carry weapons to touch. is it possible or already it is also impossible to destroy the warehouses where this weapon is located, destroy the agent headquarters here too an important point, we are not in a different space with ukraine on how we distinguish between ukrainian provocations of the line, everyone else is

watching about the increase, which he is trying to arrange a blockade of kaliningrad, he is looking at the boa constrictor, which encroaches on transnistria, other countries are watching. if they see that's all we talked about, if they react. it’s categorically tough, that is, it hits, then the general staffs didn’t give a damn about everything, then they will be much more careful in these provocations, of course, in lithuania they perfectly understand the bonuses they are well aware that moscow is not going to attack nato to strike at the ukrainian general staff, the ukrainian ministry of defense will show that russia is ready for tough actions within its understanding and misunderstanding, or in two until it reaches estonia. well, it doesn't matter. i'll just tell you that. uh, as i understand myself, lithuanians and turkey and latvians, estonians will be the happiest people on this planet if we hit the general staff with everything, because they will receive so much more money

from the british and americans for this. how much does he dreamed because in order to be afraid you need to have the ability to make logical decisions. after all, nothing immediately gives the impression of horror, and with regard to fundraising in ukraine, you understand the funds are given to those who win. now, if they carry out, uh, provocations and sabotage, and we do not answer. they say, you watch how we do it. russia has exhausted a little more money. i didn't hesitate when the final whites realized that their, uh, fate was sealed in russia back then in that war. uh huh when im catching george said that enough guys. here you are sitting in your crimea but you spent a lot of money anyway. you couldn't do anything. negotiate with the bolsheviks, and then

it became clear to the wrangel of his government that now everything is over and wrangel ran to help, poland to fight with us. by the way, the national betrayal was on the part of the so-called russian army in rank. here, and will not help the one who loses. and when the draftsman in the forty-first year came to a meeting with stalin and looked at the meeting guard. he looked, there is determination to fight or not. and so they began to help us when they saw that we have the determination to fight, and we fight for real even when retreating. and when we began to advance, then they already brought troops, that is, they will help those who will win and help russia begin to restore order in ukraine when they see that this is the last way to restore order. there order is interesting, yes, you know? let's just be realistic. yesterday opened the largest forum army 20-22 today about the international conference on

security. yesterday i was at the opening in full, i saw almost everything with my own eyes, 72 states were present in the conditions of the complete isolation of russia a. look brix plus o dkb. you count 4.2 billion. the western world is a big big so-called collective west of about 800 million. but of course, they have a very good structure, because today's brix is ​​a club. he does not have. as such, the namorphic structure, we say that conditionally these guys are ours, but they are conditional, because this is a club community, but in same time. we say the red line when someone gets a hat. you know better than me how our guys dive, how cool the projectile is. it's cool, yes. and especially when there is something to sniper, that's how snipers are, because they beat these creatures very clearly and forget about them, and cash flows very simply. we must stop him. we do this successfully. i remember about 2 months ago a huge number of articles were published in the states when they smiled and

said europe yes, this is their problem. it's their gas. it's their oil, it's their coal. these are their energy problems. we are smiling for 8,000 km. and look at 8,000 km, how quickly it passes in terms of the global economy. i came to buy tomatoes for 2.90, then 4.90, then 5.90. i communicate a lot with a simple american, we write off , we talk, i say, as he speaks with you, you know, he says, well, earlier for a week, about 120-150 dollars was enough for me. i bought groceries. family, three people four people now $250 . and this happened in just 3 months this is not by 8%. it's not eight percent, because they tell us the temperature in the hospital, they tell us, you know, the average inflation increase in the states is 8%, no, guys, checks are sent to one person 120 the same goods are already 230. listen, this is eight percent. and they start voting with their pocket. they say, why do we need because of ukraine, which we cannot find on the map. we are now beginning to calculate the well-being in our children. what is the american dream? it's very simple, my children and

grandchildren live better than me. you guys than exchanging my grandchildren and children, and for the sake of what let the europeans exchange their childlessness with anyone. but the idea is already the same and the freedom that was needed becomes uninteresting, what we offer yesterday, what does putin say, for example, he says simple things. yes, we are not isolated. yes , we are a center that upholds traditional values. no. yes, we give you something different. we give justice. are you ready to give justice in a gayge in london what is your justice worth and when we hold a special military operation? yes, this is about destroying this puppeteer with dirty fingers, and i agree about creating a new model of justice. i have only one question for you. that's because you communicate and correspond with americans. and at one time i also talked a lot with them and i know that they are there, well, in their own way, but people are very logical. it’s just that it’s such a very such its own separate condo, yes, yes, yes

, that’s it. you feel they already have an understanding of this connection that a check for 120 and a check for 230 this is the result of the fact that those who control them have become these puppeteers. they already have. it is a logical connection that if this continues, then they will continue. here is very clearly my message from academia. these are the people who occupy a good position, a stable position. there are people who do not survive the last 100 dollars, but, nevertheless, successful professors. says a simple thing, you know? what's the matter? our salaries do not increase. today we understand that the democrats , with their course and mad joe, they have ceased to call there sleeping joe and so on. he says we are ashamed of him, we have never been ashamed of our president. we had a principle, a very simple president is the president. he is everything we are interested in, only our governor, because the governor is responsible for our policy, the white house, for example, god bless them, anyone will be there. for the first time i surprised you, they began to wonder who is in the capitol in the white house yeah, and it didn’t matter

. always they say, you know we never followed. so behind the choice of november 8 for us i wonder if these pallets are intermediate yes, intermediate elections, so that they take place on our terms. i'm talking to people from boston, this is massachusetts, this is democrats. i say they will kill you, the republicans will come. why do you say so? he says, you know, i probably want the democrats to get out already, because under the democrats, we began to live not just badly disgustingly. and this has never happened, but in fact, you say that the professors there are democrats and so on, in fact, but the tone of many articles, well, enough serious publications. it also shows that some processes are going on there, so to speak, fermentation seething and so on, but i’ll give you a couple to listen to, which, at least, are publications that show that this problem exists and it can no longer be ignored problems. well, i don’t know whether there was fatigue or an understanding that they were climbing somewhere in the wrong direction. well, by the way, i'll show you

a cartoon first. which, it seems to me, is not at the level of analytical articles, but at the level of such a more ordinary consciousness is very bright. i think that's how you described your professors. they understand about the same. yes, yes, and this is a danish, uh, tourist who depicted this united europe that zelensky is actually being pulled into the hole in which he is, yes, that is, a clear understanding. a very clear understanding. and here are two articles for you that illustrate what is happening both at the level of cartoonists and at the level, and there are more and more publications on this topic, please. volodymyr zelensky made it clear that ukraine will demand from partners $5 billion a month and in the future this amount may double as the conflict drags on, more and more europeans and their politicians will begin to doubt such investments . climate change, heat and fires

drought social demands of their own citizens crises in other parts of the world, high taxes and political problems at home. well, so that there is no idea that you know it there, uh, american. here you, perhaps that we have. well, let's give for the guardian . an uncomfortable even disturbing question arises. should ukrainians prepare to be stabbed in the back this winter, public outrage over the conflict is giving way to worry bordering on panic over the worrisome implications for valuable energy , food and the cost of living. this casts doubt on the resilience of the west was attached to delusional promises, she demanded that russia leave crimea and return to the borders that existed before 2014. sounding like a crazy generalissimo strass pecked, we will continue to actively oust russia from the territory of

ukraine, who is this? we are you and whose army michael is not you co-authored with the test. well, too, it's already sneaked in and comes in a large number of goals at the same time. i like the question. when will russia stop feeding those who kill our soldiers. it's true, so, that is, in fact, look at these here are the sentiments. here you described to the professor. here is some kind of press for you, that is, you know, what else is very important. yes, you always need to give positive perspectives to everyone, even your enemies cannot be pressed against the wall, so now it would be very correct to say so guys. this means that we will restore ukraine after its liberation with the involvement of such and such western capitals, which are now escaping with such and such indemnities . from the west, however, this is a small detail. to do this, you first need to start restoring your industry so that we believed understandably, yes february it was clear that our conflict with the west for ukraine would go like a war

of attrition, who will falter first, whose civil society will retreat first? but, as he wrote just the other day, the brush, the engineer said in an interview yes, and i had an adequate policy of the american administration led to the fact that we america we found ourselves on the brink of a direct war, russia and china yes, because the administration, uh, in washington misjudge the situation. and herein lies the problem. if it was just a war to exhaustion, it could be easy to exhale to assert, who is the first friend, well, conditionally exhale and wait, then the first one will drop. and here you have the most serious systemic errors, the crossing of red lines, no longer within the framework of russia ukraine, but within the framework of the traditional military periphery that runs between russia and the united states from the united states, this war of attrition can turn into a direct military a conflict that neither we nor the americans need, but it can happen.