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hello. i immediately wanted to immediately ask such a question, you know. in general, the interview of the zelensky president of ukraine in the washington post aroused great interest in relation to himself. and, of course, he made a number of statements there, which caused a mixed reaction. i would like to know your opinion, because many say that he actually directly contradicts what he said at that time before and after the start of the special military operation. and now he sets out a different version he knew when he knew. why didn't he act as he should have acted. here i hope you are well aware of everything about this. and you have something to say about this. and andranik, well, uh, to be

fair uh, there is a well-known saying. uh, when the war starts, then the first victim becomes true. er, well, you can't expect, for example, that officials will divulge information about their military empires. i mean classified information that they will give detailed lists of their losses. so what, they will generally say things that the enemy can take advantage of, but in the case of president zelensky, and here, let’s say, there is a discrepancy with the truth. where next he spoke repeatedly repeatedly in november in december in january in early february. what, yes he knows that there were warnings in the west and

especially in the united states that military operations could begin, a military confrontation for the donbass, but zelensky said this is all nonsense. this is all an exaggeration, and he said, we have our own intelligence data, nothing like this will happen, and suddenly now president zelensky is talking. yes, we had our own intelligence data that everything would be different, but there would be military actions, that russia would take some kind of military steps, but i could not tell zelensky to admit this, because otherwise we would have lost 5-7 billion dollars a month, which i did not understand how he supposed and from whom the recipient, apparently western partners, but under all conditions. he said that in order to continue. how to receive this money? he

misled the population of his country, and he misled his armed forces, uh, which could not adequately prepare for military operations, when the supreme commander-in-chief president told them that there would be no military clash , understand, uh, how some then the normal line behavior for a responsible statesman is very, very difficult. i agree with you. you know, she motivates there by the fact that if he said this, then people would panic, they could rush in different directions to leave, and then in the west they would decide that no one was going to do anything to resist the russian invasion, and then they would stop apparently to finance, and he really needed this money dmitry here is another very important statement was made, uh, by

ukrainian officials newspaper, new york times. you know that today there was an article about the terrorist attacks in crimea, and in this article some officials, ukrainians, say that, in general, if these people are partizans, as they call them, they will even use poisonous substances against russia, russian objects in russian people, there and so on, that is their legitimate right, they have the right to do so. here. what do you think, do they not completely cross the red line there, i don’t know, these are all thoughts and unthinkable features. organic thanks i'll add one thing first, if you don't mind what i said about zelenskiy's deception about

his information about the possibility of a military operation. it's not just about what he said . it's about what he did, a natural question arises. if he really knew that there was a high probability of a russian military operation , then what he did about this, and i can say what he did, he asked for more and more military assistance from the united states, asked for the types of weapons that inevitably had to cause concern in moscow and even provoke russia into some kind of retaliatory steps, and one thing that zelensky for some reason didn’t do was suggest who, well, start some kind of negotiations with russia over the russians. their requirements, especially. e, on the topic, not ukraine's entry into nato, if

zelensky had taken such steps then. i think that washington would not have denied him attention and understanding, and quite possibly no military operation would have been required, that is, zelensky, in fact, with his irresponsible actions, not only words, but also inaction on the issue of starting serious diplomacy. he contributed to the very conflict that is now suffering so much, ukraine. yes, i would say the whole of europe, and now about the a poisonings, what is unique in this article is that ukrainian officials are quoted there, they are not named. well , the new york times is responsible for its words and is sure that this is indeed an official official. provided for interview by the ukrainian government, and they say they were engaged in poisoning poisoning of those who, from their point

of view, are collaborators. i want to emphasize here. they do not say that they poisoned some terrible murderer of some person who, for example, is accused of torturing ukrainian prisoners of war. no, they say that they used poison against ordinary people who simply held some small posts in the administrations that were appointed. e russian authorities. but this is complete nonsense. i don't know who else would say that about themselves myself. and why is it important for me, and for me it is important, because in recent years, and there were several mysterious poisonings, and there were a few. situations where it was not clear. uh, who did what against, say, opponents of

the russian government, and the question arose. and why would the russian authorities need to deal with these people, when they did not provide any real threat, and various experts, including those in the american special services, spoke about the possibility of what is called a false flag operation, that is, an operation that is, as it were, attributed to one, but actually performed by others. and uh, that's why the recognition of u people associated with the ukrainian authorities, but in what they organized, and the attack on their political opponents, using poisonous substances, poisoned them. this, of course, leads to very serious thoughts about what else ukraine has been doing in recent years, which could

be a serious factor in the conflicts between moscow and washington dmitry you know, while you were talking about this, uh, i still remember it is not known who poisoned the ukrainian politician president yushchenko, but i think, but if they admit that this is a legitimate means, they indulge in it, but why don’t they poison yushchenko, you never know, it means that there is some kind of ukrainian tradition in the political, but only such thoughts come to my mind, but i'm now danik i don't want to accuse anyone without evidence. they like to do this very much in kiev. and i want to refrain from this one while in washington. i just want to say. what, when the ukrainian official persons not named in this case say that they poisoned people who, from their point of view

, were dangerous people with people who went on a collaboration, but in general, not nothing, monstrous, not doing any war crimes accused, it seems to me that such confessions of people associated with other zelensky, as they say, absolutely speak for themselves, but dmitry. here is one more, probably the last question about ukraine, you know, just recently, the minister of defense of ukraine reznikov said that they receive a variety of e systems american weapons systems. and in general, they believe that they have the right and they can apply these systems. aiming. not just now in this front line where the fighting is going on . but aiming at the crimea and deep into the donbass

you know, that's why i'm asking this question. it seems to me, don't you think that in this case they actually raise to another level the possible confrontation between russia not with ukraine today, but with the united states, because this is an american weapon, if using american weapons, they can get to the crimean bridge to sevastopol, in fact, don't they understand that russia just because it can't be ignored. the fact that the united states is supplying ukraine with weapons is a fact that no one disputes that the united states is providing ukraine today with more weapons and most importantly more modern weapons, including, uh, multiple launch rocket systems, this is also a

fact that no one denies in the administration boisterously. however, they are said to be, uh, trying to be as sure as they can be. you you yourself don’t control something that these multiple launch rocket systems will not be used on the territory of the russian federation, and this is where the question arises. what does the territory of the russian federation mean? if we are talking about the donbass, then it is clearly not , at least at this stage, part of the territory of the russian federation and american restrictions, apparently, do not apply to uda donbass, crimea i think for washington a more difficult question, because with on the one hand, the united states does not recognize crimea as part of the russian federation. they claim that, uh, crimea part of ukraine but on the other hand, on a practical

level. i have not heard any expectations that crimea will be torn away. e from russia and returned to ukraine in some not only close, but some any real perspective, and everyone proceeds from the fact that e peace agreements, which one still wants to hope at some stage will be reached by no one in them no one does not assume that these peace agreements will include the granting of crimea and ukraine a. if so, then it is very difficult for me to imagine that in the administration where there is and at least. it always seemed to me, sensible, cautious people, that they would look with approval at the attacks on the crimea, where there are such central objects for russia as the roman bridge to sevastopol and the black sea fleet , i think e in the baidn administration give themselves

that the strikes like these objects, whether someone likes it or not, but they would inevitably be considered in moscow as attacks on the territory of russia, moreover, on important russian objects. and that would be a significant step in the escalation. i understand why in washington they can do not want to publicly refute the statement about the minister of defense of ukraine, but i really hope that these statements will be taken into account and explained , uh, to the ukrainian wards, what? the user of american weapons for such purposes would be inappropriate, including, if they want, in kiev, and getting sufficient support from washington with such things from my point of view is impossible to indulge. now do you know about america? i know that

in a year it will be 50 years old. uh, from the time you moved to live in the united states, you you know, this is a long time, you are more than 25 years old , who, in general, received a good education, had a certain knowledge of the experience of our country, the soviet union, but why i ask you this question, because many times i have one other person, the famous american patrick buhler, with whom you have one thing in common, at least he worked with president nixon. you u worked for president nixon. at least with his blessing, they created the nixon center, which is now called the center for national interests. he speaks many times in his books and speeches. i do not recognize the country where i

was born, and many of my friends and acquaintances with whom i am in touch. in general, i returned in the sixteenth year already now they tell me, andronicus you will not recognize. uh, manhattan every day, we're going through a lot of changes here. i would like to ask dmitry if you compare america in 73 and the seventies and today's america, what would you pay special attention to in the sense that they have changed qualitatively. here are such and such such things. well, andronicus, when you are talking about a period of 50 years, expect serious changes. it is natural. this is what must happen, otherwise it would be, i would even say abnormal and sad. not only do i not recognize america, but they recognize the country in which i was born in a

country called russia russia today there has been a serious fundamental revolution. so i want to fill. here he is armored. here is the armor. thank you for this note. in america, too , there was a serious revolution. only in contrast to it was not announced to russia. and uh, not in general. it all happened gradually and no one really. at least from those whom i know, even when these people made historical decisions, they did not understand where. goes, for example, in the late sixties. it was before i came to america that senator edward kennedy proposed, uh, legislation that would allow. uh, to be guided in exile not by the principle of attracting valuable specialists from those who were especially needed for

america, but those who had relatives, and this actually opened the door for mass uncontrolled immigration from latin america and kennedy then asked if they would have such a result and he categorically denied such a possibility, all this happened and no one can say about it now that, in general, the radicals changed the demography of america either by miscalculation, either uh, conscious deception, of course, has changed a lot uh, if you like the american ideology is an american approach to basic things. one of the things that struck me when i came to washington in 1973 was, when i read an article in the washington newspaper about how uh position in uh a suburb of washington called arlington, how they broke into houses, uh homosexuals, uh, and uh, they were detained in the wrong place

, it seemed that it was somehow incompatible with american investments to private life. and now, well, now we're celebrating. uh, alternative sexy style. we believe that if we do not introduce children to him. and when they are 10 years old, then we deny children some very important aspect of education, and er, if earlier, it would have been considered that america was a melting pot. and uh need here when people come somehow to instill in them ideas and skills. e. america now america looks more and more like the balkans when people come who have no interest in democracy. they come simply to live better, to be closer to their relatives. uh, and here in ukraine they ban the russian language and the united states at least does not

mind it, and in america you know very well that in big cities there are whole blocks, and where they speak spanish in other languages, and it's more and more becomes the language of those languages ​​that are used in official life all the way to production, a, and so on. and finally , the america i went to was also a divided america, bluffing the demonstrations because of the vietnam war, the white house would have been besieged. america was extremely polarized, but it was polarized. that's why one. a very terrible issue of the bloody war in vietnam in which america was introduced by the president of the democrats and when the presidents are republicans. in this case, nixon wanted to get out of this war without defeat. it caused a rage liberals. e. this caused a special fury of

the students, who were called up for military service. and in general, the country was going through a very serious shock on one very important, but still to some extent isolated issue. and now america is polarized. but if you want to about your identity, about core values, where and how should america go? and, of course, about america's role in popular politics. if you look at the american establishment. you in general, there is, if want, well, almost a matter of common sense. happiness is that you support the idea of ​​american global hegemony, and for this we are ready, as we see in the case of ukraine, to go to very serious international upheavals and huge expenses, including for the united states. but if you look at the main population of america, especially new emigrants from latin america them. here are all

these questions they are up to the lantern. and when e them. uh, as it were, they say we will go through the world and establish our order. and it's not in your life hinder, a short run. even you will help, the population does not mind. that's against such a course towards global dominance. but if it starts out costly, if it attracts, uh, american troops in situations where american blood will actually be shed. it's very difficult for me. uh, to believe that america, with its current course of development and with its current demographics, will be ready to support this, therefore, from my point of view, there is a fundamental contradiction between the unrestrained globalism of the american international establishment and with all others more populist, more

limited if you will, by the desires of an ever-increasing mass of dmitriy's american voters before going into advertising, i can't help but react very briefly to your one remark that you had a revolution and we had a revolution, but in my opinion. we will discuss this with you later, our revolution. it was emancipation and we went from communist uniformity of unanimity to pluralism to pluralism, and your revolution. unfortunately today, according to so many american analysts. commentators on fox and on others, america is moving toward unanimity. and this cannot but upset us. and now we will return after a short advertisement and discuss the situation on the fronts of the special military operation. goodbye. dmitry goodbye. i didn't finish, i won't let you in.

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communications from the donetsk people's republic dmitry olegovich war correspondent dmitry olegovich tell us about the latest news from the contact department and how the military operations are going, and what could be of particular attention. and good afternoon. artillery is actively working in the avdiivka direction. today i was in the first slavic guards brigade of the dpr army, artillery, which supported the actions of the infantry. today they fired at the enemy's uncovered infantry according to the adjustment and tasks. it is worth noting the fire of their own units, and the fragmentation ranks of the air blast, and the enemy the enemy began to leave their positions

and retreat. uh, they exchanged the sight, switched to an enhanced charge and finished off the outgoing very large losses of artillery. e, in particular. so today i was at the 150-millimeter t-20 complex, which is actively working in the entire direction, but in general , work continues to break into the enemy’s fortified areas, if we talk about it. already responsible artillery strikes, which are actively works in a fortified area. the so-called republic is a bridge in ukraine. it is called this, and , accordingly, the bypass highway is cut, which is, and the highway to avdiivka. that is, there is an intersection and a large overpass, which they use as a fortified area, there are already battles for part of the air defense in kievskaya, this is an ant position, an anthill, one of the very large fortified areas, the mining division of the dpr army, which operates in the coal sector, also has success . they were able to move forward, there are

captured ukrainian positions, to which they entered the enemy suffered significant losses there. now the troops are already moving towards the city of gretara. left for him. uh, about 7 km. uh, already from those positions that are captured there is a direct line of sight. uh, in some places on coaltar. that is a little more and can start for the self directly on the inhabited. tell me, please, we have been hearing for several years that avdiivka is the main thing. this is such a fortified area. where does it mean they were kept under uh, artillery strikes? no, now, when they are still squeezed out, though not like that at a rapid pace, as we would like, but still here you are in donetsk in the city you can feel it. you feel some kind of qualitative change. that is, they just saw on the screen a video from

the captured positions under angle, and i will comment on this video today, army war correspondents filmed. dpr the press service of the dpr army provided it to us for broadcasting this video of the army, who had just returned from under the lidar, if we talk about attacks on cities and about the activity of ukrainian artillery, then how counter-batteries are destroying ukrainian artillery and their supply in the avdiivka area is becoming more difficult; artillery systems and hymars multiple rocket launchers. e. i. although the number of blows has decreased, but blows are inflicted every day e, including every day

let's get closer and there remains gorlovka, which also has an advance now from the long-suffering village of zaitsev, in which the fighting has not stopped since the fourteenth year. uh, the so-called lower zaitsev to the upper zaitsev under the neck. well , gorlovka also remains under fire, and every day and every day civilians die in all cities of the republic. for example, uh, and not only artillery is used, yes. for example, uh, using a practical missile system. panteleymonovka was fired at, this is a village on highway, donetsk gorlovka there is a giant funnel , too, a lot of damage. e, kuibyshevsky district. donetsk is constantly under fire and as the enemy is forced. eh, get involved in the cowboy. because of avdiivka, they still have the opportunity to drink in the kuibyshev district of donetsk, therefore, although the shelling of the settlements of the republic, although they have ceased to be so massive, civilian facilities for peaceful

residents. that is, we can expect that if we complete the complete cleansing of avdiivka, then the artillery strikes on donetsk may stop, or at least there will not be such victims that we see today in various settlements. of course, if both krasnogorov and the city are completely cleared, and the city is nearby, then the enemy artillery, school artillery, will no longer be able to operate, at least in the central regions of donetsk and will practically be withdrawn, its actions in all areas of donetsk a -a, therefore, here, just here, recruitment are important settlements in order to protect donetsk makeev, if guilty, which are under fire. and, if these cities are liberated, then they will be able to fire on the capital of the republic only with the help of missile systems of tactical missile systems and possibly haymart, and artillery strikes are constant, especially

light artillery strikes, which can still strike on the outskirts districts will be stopped. thank you very much dmitry olegovich but it only remains to wish that your information always pleases us. so good luck to you. goodbye. well, now let's turn to our permanent, military expert, who always gives a panoramic view of the situation on all fronts, but we are also happy to provide the opportunity yerevan what badalaki give us the big picture? what is happening on the line of contact? yes, good evening. well, if we start the panorama from the kharkov direction, there are two interesting points here today, the first one is the zolochev area, until now. there fights continues until tu information that gave

the internal release. well, i didn't get the final result. i mean, the fighting is still going on. i don't know the final result yet. but what is known is the evening reports of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, also russian troops, have already begun to actively begin to actively try to move in the chuguev area, that is, here it turns out. communication group of so-called brave. this is kupyansk izyum, because in the area south of izium, a big attack on the operation begins. here comes a very powerful attack. very powerful artillery treatment. no one is in a hurry, but the processing of artillery, aviation is very powerful, and there is also information that, well, how would we occupy the bogorodichny settlement, then they left it. now it has been taken away again. he was black. well, as it were, in the gray zone, the so-called, that is, we are moving forward again, and closer to slavic and

i understand that in the coming days we will also see some significant acquisitions here. and the same solidarity. here is an offensive operation. after they took bakhmudskaya, uh, both in solidarity and in bang and artyomovsk. and here we have already gone to the north. that is, we previously entered the eastern outskirts, that is, we occupied a fairly significant piece of the eastern district electricity. industrial zones. now information has gone that we entered from the northern part of the bahnut. and, that is, here, too, to step on the operation. it will continue follow her. listen, well, i don’t think that a big city will go down quickly, after all, you won’t take it for very quickly. and if we move further south, now we, dear colleagues, reported that along gorlovka, tank battles are going beyond the northern part of the hare, that is, this is the key point if we are crossing. zaitsev’s river is fucked up, then we begin to cut the enemy between toretsk and dzerzhinsky and artyomovsk and try to go to the fflag, and then to the rear, to the city of baku, which will naturally make

it easier to take him and messages also came today confirmation from the ukrainian side in the evening summary of the apu on our successes in the experimental area. this is a settlement a little east between the water and avdiivka here. e. our troops have taken several important fortified areas and are trying to break into the enemy's second line of defense, which is lined up along the line, experienced water pervomayskoye nevelskoye and beyond. well, it rests on krasnogor, then very active hostilities are going on here. and even the enemy recognizes our success here on marinka. yes , an offensive is really developing on carbon direction. e. well, i think that so far according to the plan, because about 4-5 km have been covered in a few days. for current times. these are very good paces. well, in the southern direction in there, while the situation is relatively calm, our troops are trying to periodically attack the enemy, so to speak, to keep them in good shape. well, for now, all this looks like we are just trying not to give them, uh, to transfer

strategic reserves to the main direction, most of them, of course, have already been transferred to me, but we are trying to keep some of them groups in this direction. although there was a wave in nikolaev, panic among ukrainian employees. e that in the coming days, without expecting almost a storm, nikolaev again this is such information from their side, i cannot but confirm or deny. you know, there is information that yerevan is in yerevan, that there is a certain contradiction or that these contradictions arose between president zelensky and the founder, as far as you know about this or what you could say about this, these contradictions arose long ago and were caused. they always one, the same zelensky as an artist, he is very conceited. and naturally, he does not want anyone, especially in wartime, and to be more popular in the country than him, taking into account the fact that , when they say, a hostage, uh, a one-man theater

. here, apparently he is from this series. well, yes, he has always always been considered the best comedian, and now the best president. well, now he is the only one who wants to be a significant political leader of the country and, of course, the mortgaged rating, which has noticeably increased due to these mistakes, which zelensky implemented, he is now, of course, putting pressure on zelensky. well, that's not even the point here. artistry has nothing to do with it, but zelensky is great. not even so much zelensky as his entourage, which is completely tied to zelensky , understands perfectly well that gradually the west is forming. well , such a situation that it is more profitable for them to write off zelensky. well, you know, there are a lot of problems associated with the conduct of the war. yes, that is, there is a lot of corruption, a lot of failures, and you need to find a scapegoat on whom all this can be blamed and continue the war. please note that the number of weapons has sharply decreased. the money supplied to kiev is not given to them, and vice versa, the west will show with all its might that this is a scam. they

seem to support, and i absolutely do not rule out the situation, given that zelensky’s entourage, or rather zelensky’s personal guards, are guys either from the united states or from great britain, then they can simply write him off and multiply by zero. uh, of course, blame russia and continue to bring in someone else plastic, to whom they will be more supportive and will help more. this one. i think it’s not even zelensky himself who is afraid, but the entourage of zelensky, who understands perfectly well that at the same time zelensky can be multiplied by zero and they themselves are yerevan. short short question short answer. uh, today maybe zelensky mortgaged, because i saw a list of a large list of people he fired at the ministry of defense. or is it not under his power yet, yes or no, if i if i were in place, i would have done so. thank you for such a detailed detailed analysis of the situation, we forced to break for a short commercial break

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you know, e. i came to this conclusion yesterday, and i can't help but share it with you and ask you a question. what do you think about it? i quoted yesterday. uh, patrick bikinin, who said that the first round was left to china. but i didn’t even know how seriously this round was left to china , because i read a dash where they say that after the arrival of pelosi after the arrival of the second delegation, the chinese actually achieved very a serious change in the balance of power around taiwan and in general, the situation in this region they changed the status quo. and if there used to be some kind of dividing line between taiwan and china along the sea, the chinese, as if they took it with an eraser and, thanks to the pilos and american congressmen, erased it. now

they control the whole space. and today. i saw an indian tv channel that showed two chinese warships in this. eh, what's it called? uh, the median line in the aga strait of the taiwan strait, and on the other side are two american ships. and of course, uh, in the opinion of many. teak chinese dominate on this space and the americans have nothing to oppose. is it so? what do you think, uh, the visit of the pilose and the ensuing another visit of congressmen, and led to the creation. the beginning of the creation of a new normal in taiwan's relations with the outside world. and now look now there are reports that by the end of the month another

american delegation, supposedly parliamentarians from several countries via a network from europe, intends to come to taiwan, that is, the international status of taiwan is rising. such visits are becoming, as it were, a new normal, well, a new the norm. and all this is pushing, of course, the taipei authorities to declare sovereignty, the chinese are responding. naturally they answered e. hmm, a visit from the pilot to the fact that they had a rehearsal for the blockade of the island thanks to the exercises. uh, now after the second visit, uh again, groups of chinese ships of chinese aircraft entered. e. here. this is , uh, the space they never went before was an unspoken agreement between tai-bei and beijing what is there, a kind of median line that bisects the strait in half bisects the air

space and the chinese will not fly over and enter by ships. these lines have not yet been completely erased, in fact, but they intersect more and more often. and i think that in response to the creation of this new norm by the americans, the chinese will now create some kind of new norm, what kind of norm it will be. i do not know how they always act systematically. and after this meeting of the politburo, which took place the other day, i think that we will literally very soon see a tightening of china. uh, military component the sixteenth is very interesting after this meeting. the supreme commander general secretary of the communist party and the president of the people's republic of china in one person xi jinping visited leoning province,

province. leonin is the northeast. it borders china as the korean people's democratic republic and along with it. there with a meeting with the working leaders of the province. he visited the korean war museum. he carefully looked at the exhibits, and then met with veterans of the korean war, but clearly. yes, like this. uh, thin a hint of the thick circumstances. uh, the war went on for 3 years, the chinese lost 380,000 and uh, they stopped the americans, who had a huge military advantage in technology and so on. well, not without our help, of course, but they stopped the americans. this is how the chinese will react, what will be included in the new normal, except for military e, some kind of action other than erasing these lines here. well, i think there may be several of them, for example, financial yes,

the outflow of chinese money from the federal treasury will accelerate. uh, maybe, uh speed up the withdrawal chinese firms. uh, from the new york stock exchange. now the five largest farms are gone, but there are still 250 more to bring out. maybe, uh. hmm, the advance of the chinese yuan and the displacement of the us dollar will accelerate. and that, especially for you and me, some events may occur in russian-chinese relations, some new developments. here. uh, volodin is our leader. uh, the lower house of parliament has already invited lijanshu leaders of the chinese parliament, and to the eastern economic forum. i honestly hoped that sidimping will arrive, but the situation in china is now difficult because of the coronavirus, because of the economy , it’s obviously still lijanshu. uh, and uh, this is politi.