dirt is compared and fixed with a special plate with screws. here it is a plate and in fact this is the essence of the operation. and can i ask you to show us this plate alexander gennadievich here is such a plate, it is so small, it is pre -curved, that is, it repeats the shape, and the bones, which allows it to be accurately installed and fixed, but considering that the patient of 68 years old can already be left . although it is made of titanium or some kind of trim, but medical metal, in principle, uh, there is no allergy to this. that is you can leave if the patient asks you can remove it. yes, you can take it, all scooters need control. these vehicles are dangerous, like everyone else. the rest is enough. take a look at dr. gundelman. thank you very much alexander gennadier. that's all for today, dear friends. it's time for us to finish, and finally, just one word,

please, it was good for you and me, let it be great for you too. hello, on channel one, the information channel program continues its work. time will tell. i am artyom sheinin. today, of course we will talk a lot about an important event connected with the whole situation around the zaporozhye nuclear power plant, especially since yesterday we discussed with you that our military made a statement that the ukrainian armed formations may be preparing some kind of provocation there yesterday in sufficient detail we discussed this. and one of the confirmations of this is that the ukrainian military also stated that there might be

some kind of provocation. well, of course, they, as always, blamed everything on us, and about all this. we we’ll talk today, because the situation is really difficult. really alarming. and it’s not just about the nuclear power plant itself and what may or may not happen there, but that this example, and it shows that this is what many habitually called ukraine as a state, it proves to us more and more that it does not exist, and its character is more and more clearly manifested. well, how is this absolutely, acting according to the laws of a terrorist entity strongly implicated in more and with a totalitarian sect. this is the worst. this is the most terrible combination, because the totalitarian sect is always sure that only it is right in everything, and always it, and the terrorist methods that are taken. uh, in this regard, they, uh, actually

have no borders in arms. and this is very important for the conversation that we will have today and in general for assessing what is happening and will happen in connection with this confrontation. because here it is happening on the ukrainian bridgehead. we must very clearly understand and drive what we talked about for many years, but i get the impression that we talked about it for many years, but everyone did not fully believe in it, that the ukrainian so-called state and tourism education is not a mantra, a journalist or propagandistic, this is a reality that this education confirms more and more you do the action with these methods, even not only in the shelling of a nuclear power plant. well, obviously in nuclear blackmail we are being blackmailed for one thing, and the west is blackmailing us with these threats for another for money for weapons for something else, it's not just that. well, look, why is this attitude so important last night. yes, there was another surge. here is their semi-sabotage floor. uh,

informational fake uh, activity was triggered by air defense in kerch yesterday . immediately, uh, it means that ukrainian publics began to throw in some videos that something is right there, that’s on fire to understand that we are dealing with a terrorist formation and, as it were , information-terrorist, among other things, because ukrainian publics immediately began to shove some kind of video of some kind of fire. and many people began to write to me, what is happening there? what is there, what is there, what is burning there? i say, well guys, let's check it out. no, there is already a video there, it burns, it burns very strongly, he says, that is , literally some time passes and reuters comes by the way, he also wrote about this, referring to the ukrainian public, yes, yes, but nevertheless it passes a little time comes official information, please. recently,

according to preliminary data, an unmanned aerial vehicle was shot down near the belbek airport with no damage. no, no one was hurt by dill publics. i already see that they have begun to disperse preparations for their successful attack. i ask you to keep calm and receive information from trusted sources , you understand, yes, and the video that they shoved everywhere and which they even started to share true with a link to them, uh, share and the reuters is an old video that which is a lot of time, but why am i once again making this emphasis, we are not dealing with the state and not even with state propaganda, we are dealing with a terrorist organization that operates according to the methods of a terrorist organization, which attention can do everything and which acts, regardless of any rules about nothing. the main thing is that the main thing is to produce an effect. and if you made an emotional effect on the audience, it doesn’t matter what

later it turns out that you terrorist organization does not matter, because the spoons are there, but the sediment remains, to which i pay so much attention to the fact that this is my talk about the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant and should be treated. as you understand, uh, terrorists are any terrorists, and the fact that they are now so active around the zaporozhye nuclear power plant and with this they pick up all sorts of shelling and talk about the fact that they will shell bridges and so on, to which we will return today. pay attention to any terrorists who take over hostages. they start talking about shooting hostages, when things get worse for them, they begin to mine the buildings in which they took over, when they get worse, we are dealing with a situation where this terrorist formation is on the battlefield. everything is bad and it won't get better. this is not to say that it

will be very easy. for us. no. it will be hard, but the chances are on the battlefield. they don't have. and the better. it's clear to them and their handlers who tell him guys, but you can't there, come on, like somewhere else. and this is where the processing begins. this is processing. and this , after all, manifests itself. it is very important to remember this in everything now, when we will discuss the zaporizhia station and other stories, you understand, and for this reason they do not behave like a country. i’m not even talking about that, i talked about it yesterday, how, uh, zelensky dresses in lviv anywhere, not there on the front line, or even in kiev, which, at the very least, was somewhere near the fighting. he meets with world-class politicians. uh, dressed up, well, as it were here are pants in a t-shirt and so on and so forth. that is, he violates these rules. he does not break any rules, he does not consider them right for himself, because he is not in the state, he is in a terrorist gang that can do anything. just like the same gang can, uh, well, that's the

story. e, ours, it means some kind of there, what is the name of the figure who has been living in kiev for a long time and tried to leave from there. they punched him in his passport, a citizen of the russian federation some, there blogger schmogen or some activist of the pravosek, these are ukrainian border guards in the passport bangs such a seal, moreover, they have it ready. she's been carved out of them. and now in all these discussions. i say no well, stop it anyway. we are talking, here, as if the state is what we are talking about, and this is what the state should do. no , this is very creative, very coronal, but this is a dash sect terrorist organization. there were creative people there too. it's all very important to me that you have in mind yes and and and and these are just flowers, but there are still petals that this terrorist sect throws not

only at donetsk, despite the fact that the petals are prohibited by all conventions. and yesterday the governor of the belgorod region said that these petals are already covering the regions of the russian federation with these petals, but again i repeat, my friends. yes, it's annoying. yes , it infuriates, but the more important for us for all to understand. we are not talking about a state, but a terrorist entity, this is exactly how it should be discussed exactly, and this is how we will begin to discuss it immediately after advertising on channel one. on the occasion of the 80th anniversary of muslim magomayev magomayev, the love of life came to us. tamara ilyinichna sinyavskaya, have you ever fallen in love with a spoken voice, that's why it's so amazing for me. and the

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we continue to work live on august 19 power plant, which they already shelled for a long time, that is. uh, provocation is something even more serious than shelling or shelling, uh, another different level. we started yura to talk about when we talk about the kiev regime. we must understand that in general, such a terrorist organization operating by these methods is absolutely untethered, therefore, all the ideas that there are some conventions there are norms of laws, that well, no. well, they can't go for that, because, uh, i'll add

some more in parentheses to me here. no, well, after all, these are not exactly terrorists. yes they are supported international garden. well, listen, and that bin laden herself did not have an american agent, so that at a certain moment now now, since you happened to, uh, after all, well, more or less a little better than we imagine. well, how would it be what was there at the beginning a few years ago, when you knew this pretzel, yes, i knew how you think. this is a creative terrorist sect. she can take some outrageous actions, or, in your opinion, she will rather remain within the framework. here's a whipping informational noise. well, uh, to be honest, everyone i knew there, uh, and everyone i didn’t know, but i watched these years, they are cowardly cowardly to madness. they are terribly afraid and tremble for their skins. maybe that's why the same azov people began to surrender in azov, they stood to the end, it can't even be. this is most likely why, that is, they will, of course, whip.

of course, they will blackmail everyone, but to guarantee that among them there will not be some crazy fanatic ready to arrange something grandiose and catastrophic, this guarantee cannot be will give. nobody to you. uh-huh yes. there is a fanatic can't handle it, you need organized channels. agree. yes? well, in general, of course i agree. i am very pleased that this consolidated position in russia has been worked out, that there is understanding. how to treat our enemies. uh, and you can call enemies who used to be russians there. yes, they were brothers, and today they became and began to kill us. that's why, ah, really terrorists, really, they are headed by a terrorist, moreover, when we knew him, we even talked there 10-15 years ago, but nothing said that out of this man there was a fairly popular walkie-talkie. quite right. everything can be compared with a name,

so there is no point in negotiating with them, which means that they only need to be defeated and destroyed, defeated and destroyed, i am very worried, the situation around the zaporizhzhya npp will never be the same there, when the free operation began the world had already changed. we have changed. yes today, if god forbid they they will try to build something and arrange some kind of nuclear catastrophe. and i just want to remind you, i myself survived chernobyl, yes, i was in the hospital with radiation exposure. i can tell you. if you want, the symptoms, what is it? it's when you vomit terribly, i was 10 years old. i think on may 12th i was then taken to the hospital in uh 1986 with radiation exposure, or i was lying there, as if they were treating me, that is, after that, the chernobyl disaster. my father died a year later. mom works quite a connotation to chernobyl, they actively use it. i mean now, when you start talking about it and share your personal impressions. you are, in a sense, involuntarily. well , you work in some of the same trend

that they are counting on. you remember how it was, but imagine now something like this will happen, so let's go. you will start talking to us with ukrainian terrorists. and i think in another i say not to stipulate. can they be needed? how can you destroy and move this key because it makes no sense to talk to them, but, but here the question arises that it makes no sense to talk to them, we have been watching what they are doing in the donbass for 8 years and listening to these conversations. remember, this is it, this is a model for this whole situation, you promise to hang anything, then instead of the word hang , you can substitute any word here the question arises. why did they come to talk to them yesterday, the un secretary general a spoke for a minute and in your opinion, this can change something for the better or rather it will give them even more confidence in what they say. i think that, unfortunately, this will not

change anything, because and those with whom one could potentially talk were behind the scenes behind the brackets, and it is clear that zelensky is not independent in his decisions in his behavior, but he simply relays, let's say the program that was put into it on the eve of the negotiations. here are some red lines flags. this is what you have to say. you don't have to say it, so he reproduces it all, and he will reproduce it. exactly until the moment some other team will go. but those puppeteers, they are not in the meeting room. they are somewhere far away you know, but some, but some believe there is such a version. and yesterday it sounded in my studio , there is such a version that, well, it's a separate matter. but that erdogan brought him certain conditions, certain proposals. or whatever it is call that of course. he entrusts zelensky, who does not

decide anything, but this zelensky broadcasts to his curators the question of whether he can change this if you do you agree with this version? i think that while this will not change anything, but it is clear that erdogan is playing his own game, it is clear that erdogan's initiative is unacceptable for the west, because for the west, speaking of the term, erdogan himself is not acceptable, this cat that plays. i'm a little bit and those who talk about this version. uh, they say that the erdogants met with putin on august 5th. and that and that erdogan came there, also as a person who met with putin quite right and roughly speaking, erdogan, in addition to his interests, which of course, there is grain and four ukrainian corvettes that are being built in istanbul, bayraktars and so on. it is still possible, according to some, broadcast. well, that is, it is a translator of sentences, well, on the other hand. oh , very good of you to mention that. and i just yesterday carefully understood this and and i saw a statement during sex. vladimir putin, dmitry

peskov, who, in fact, decomposed this situation into atoms after the meeting in sochi yes, he literally said the following. well i don't have quotes, i retell close to the text. we see erdogan's effort. we appreciate them, they are positive, but now we do not see any conditions for negotiations, because there is no subject for negotiations, and as long as he said, the ukrainian side left the radar of negotiations until it is done, draft work at the level there are no negotiators and there is no subject for meetings, probably at the highest level, so we are grateful to erdogan. let him try, but we have our own position. that's all, but erdogan has something with his stubbornness. thought, what else needs to be pushed. here's another way to say, to talk, i agree, as if you understand the magical position of the ski, you understand, with all the great respect for the work of dmitry peskov well , what did you want the president's press secretary to do? the russian federation said, yes, we sketched here.

here we sketched out to erdogan a certain list of our demands, partially ultimatum. well, he will voice it there, and then we'll see, well, peskov is doing his job, he must do it. here, look. yesterday after all these efforts. after all negotiations, zelensky came out and said no negotiations are possible until they are returned. now all the last nails. look, of course you imagine. contradict. why because, if you say that zelensky came out and said, and this is the solution to the issue. you contradict yourself zelensky voices what he is told to voice at the moment, it is clear that if he was brought some conditions, as some people think, he will not come out, he will not say, you know, here i was kind of offered. i will now think and so on. to him they told me to play this game. you are cool, you are, as it were, frostbitten, you, as if in pants and a t-shirt , you can do everything, as if standing on your own , you understand that bargaining is a synonym for the word cake to the question of that. did something affect this and , in fact, what was the point of these negotiations, who heard whom, what will not be said

publicly. i say again, i don't want to look for confirmation not for not against, but one interesting thing. i personally, uh, caught my eye. well, look, zelensky's interesting wording yesterday after these negotiations. and about who is everything they want. and who is still shelling, and what about the stations with these shelling? listen, this is important. russia must immediately withdraw its troops and stop shelling from nuclear power plants in southern ukraine carefully. note zelensky says on august 18 after this meeting that russia should stop shelling from the nuclear power plant. when i heard it, i double-checked it four times in all languages. he says, that is, a version appears that russia someone is shelling from there, but just a minute, starting from the fifth of august. i will demonstrate this to you now . the version of the ukrainian side was directly

opposite, the version of the ukrainian side was. here is such a directly lifted. let's follow now, please. the russians fired on the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant twice russia should be responsible for the threat to the nuclear power plant, this is the largest nuclear power plant on our continent and any shelling of this facility is an outright daring crime of the actor of horror mining the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant and shelling of this object, the occupiers have all the signs of nuclear terrorism on the part of russia, the whole world must unite in order to prevent a catastrophe by shelling the territory of the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant. russia can achieve certain goals, smoke is important to them and the picture is necessary to say that supposedly ukrainian troops are shelling one of artillery strikes of the russians, damaged the first block of the pumping station of the workshop, thermal and underground communications. and another arrival led to the partial destruction of the fire department responsible for safety. zaporizhia nuclear power plant russia is hitting part of the nuclear power plant where

the energy that feeds the south is accumulated. ukraine's goal is to disconnect us from the ap and obvi. in this, the ukrainian army is constantly shelling a nuclear power plant, which is carried out by russian invaders. this is a provocation and a game on the nuclear nerves of the whole world. from august 5 to august 16, persistently every day , with the support of the ukrainian international objective independent press, the logic went that the russians were shelling the nuclear power plant and suddenly after this meeting i don’t say that after this, it means in connection, it turns out that the concept is still changing, and they demand that we stop firing at them from the territory of the station. i'm dmitry. i don't want to see too much in this manifestation, but nevertheless this is one of the reasons to discuss the issue. and did this meeting change, what kind of meeting was it , in your opinion, will it somehow affect these plans. if it affects what because it was what and so on. this is especially important to discuss. today is august 19, when it is not clear

whether they freak out or not freak out. erdogan already once carried out a deal on grain, despite the fact that, as it were, there were different positions on this issue. that's one of the rather serious benefits in turkey should be noted erdogan chose next year. he is trying to strengthen his position by the fact that the negotiations took place only 40 minutes. this does not mean that there was no proposal in those 40 minutes presented. yeah , the question is how zelensky reacted to this, it's just not open either. in fact, of course , he reacted. this is how he should have reacted. this is a negotiation process. not now. this is a crown process for the future, because you are well aware that in the horizon for about a few weeks, the next, as it were, there will be a plus or minus position, respectively. plus or minus, respectively, the ukrainian side will accumulate on kherson, it still accumulates on kherson cannot attack, because , accordingly, as if part of the russian ones have been accumulated near kherson, therefore, accordingly, how would everything rest against this uh contrast who won't really like us all we understand very well. here but now, as it were, such a stalemate. well, as a last resort, this

week, and in this case, as if everyone, of course, are waiting, as it were. time timings everyone understands perfectly well that in the long run, that is, and this is the so-called confrontation of mutual attrition. here is the prospect, how ukraine is very vague, to put it mildly , here it is necessary to buy gas, gas will have to be bought, most likely at 2,500. these are quite large volumes, the same applies to the european union, which, as we are here, is fine we are monitoring how it is in a very difficult, how happy you would be, that is, in fact, if the situation lasts over the winter, uh, the terminal consequences of this for all parties to this conflict with a rare exception like china, india will turn out to be very serious, so this proposal over the horizon. this offer is not next week. your version is whose proposal? so you say the offer has been made. well, let's put it this way. this is to some extent an interpretation of the erdogans to some extent. natural offer, but in the end account. we can say that this is, as it were, the first step, but towards the negotiation process as a whole, because it is not going at all now, with the exception of, as it were, the economy of the exchange of prisoners. this is war

direction. here, accordingly, how would the countries come out of the sentencing process. here, as if it is not going to. there, as if nothing to move anywhere , the question is different, that the negotiating positions have changed over these few months, what is fundamental and what, as it were, in the spring is no longer now. uh-huh here and there like the government the problem lies in the fact that zelensky’s situation is quite difficult, as we all perfectly understand, as it were, and accordingly, the rating is not very declining now. naturally, he tries to look skinny. here, therefore, if now he makes such a decision, how could the issue be followed, therefore, from this point of view. he couldn't make that kind of decision right now. naturally, he advocates that he will return there to the crimea, before everything else, it simply lies in what the negotiation process will be like with a horizon of a month or several months, what will happen after september? that's all the most important question that stands aha, here it is. i remind you that, as it were, the identification of all processes can occur, it is the responsibility of first leaving the green, that is, well, look, yes, after all, when we say that this is not even negotiations about negotiations about the theoretical

possibility of negotiations. yes, just a suggestion. you're kind of suggesting that maybe there could be negotiations about something. after all, i did not accidentally start this situation. that is, when we have dealing with uh, an entity that behaves absolutely according to patterns, as if terrorist. yes , once violated the agreement, yes, which more than once violate the agreements and it is clear that they are absolutely incapable of negotiating, but nevertheless. um, like in any situation where terrorists take hostages, there are still negotiators who must negotiate with them. and this does not mean that the terrorists are going to let them go there. excuse me and so on, then two parallel processes raises the question, what if it's horizon there months or a month and a half, then the question arises, if , within the framework of trade, the only thing that terrorists have is to whip up information and not only information foam, the question arises: what else can they do in order to strengthen their position in response to something that were they offered?

well, look at them already at the level of quite a state er people, yes, danilov himself, maybe an idiot, and soon he takes, but he takes a public position in this terrorist formation. hear what he says yes. it sounds like absolute show-offs are so cheap, but not only cheap show- offs. let's start with danilov. regarding the question, to what extent is the restoration of borders the goal of ukraine is only complete deopation to the borders of 1991, any territorial compromise with the kremlin, this war, postponed to the future, today is a chance to break the back of the russian callus on clay feet, you understand, yes, and roughly speaking further on this yesterday, air defense worked near kerch, it is clear that they will begin now conversations, and we will and many of them already had them. yes, we will hit the bridge, and we will hit here and there. we will beat. now the question arises. this is trade and verbal churning information.

how fraught, what can go in their case, in some kind of confirmation of their words. we are all interested in this. look, i just think that the counteroffensive on kherson, which failed in many respects, became, uh, the reason why these sabotage periodically arise, because they heated up public opinion inside ukraine. public opinion there on those curators who sponsor, at least some victories did not work out, but you will agree now the focus of public attention. at least in our country, it has shifted, and we rightly ask ourselves questions about when the line will be redrawn thanks to which, because of which, more precisely, a blow will be struck at the center of the movement. at least in kiev yes, many people are wondering whether they are not overeaten or this feature is no longer lonely, and you will agree that they succeed, that is, on the information agenda. these here are conditional mosquito injections, which, of course, do not affect the course of the entire special operation, but which make us think, the second moment works. i treat my colleague with respect. i

don’t want to start from a month and a half, and why is the change in zelensky’s rhetoric a. look at the statement right now. after this meeting , the same gutersh, he said word for word that the territory of the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant should be demilitarized. all equipment should be withdrawn from there, no troops, there can not be located it says. the secretary general of the organization of nations and zelensky actually speaks with him in a pair in conjunction. that is, if earlier they were constantly talking about the fact that the russians were shelling now. by the way, as far as i know, they are being made, and attempts to establish such monitoring with the help of drones yes, with the help of drones, to show that if it arrives on the territory, energodar itself, from somewhere, then it’s definitely not from the territory controlled by russia, they have kozyr get out of hand. what are they doing? they say okay. we will not disperse the topic about the shelling. we will say that the very fact of the presence of russian troops. it's unacceptable there. we demand their

withdrawal, we demand the full establishment of full control over the zaporozhye nuclear power plant by ukraine, and this is what he says, that is, the united nations, see, fully solidarizes with the zelensky regime, in other words, in my opinion. again, this is purely, my version has undergone such a reformatting. here this informational tactic failed to convince that the russians are so stupid that they themselves want to create a nuclear catastrophe, therefore it is very important for them to create a precedent in which, thanks to the international community pressure, there and so on, the russians will back down. and once it's done. yet again. i guess it won't be done, very much. i hope so. the natural will go back on e-e under pressure from the un and under pressure from and under pressure from the west and look and under pressure including other countries, which are also very important, but are closely watching what is happening there at the nuclear power plant. naturally, they won’t succeed, but the very fact that guterysh

repeats a word a word, and zelensky’s quotes about the need to withdraw troops, that the russians are supposedly trying to concentrate multiple launch rocket systems there, what exactly is the presence of the russians, who are actually actually ensure the safety of this nuclear power plant? yes, it is a threat, that is, in my opinion. this meeting is this is another bulkhead, otherwise the information strategy that they are trying to. in relation to our country, use it so that our country still seems to be as toxic as possible, but where it is not possible to prove that we are allegedly shelling, we immediately change the agenda and say that we are guilty already by the fact that we are this territory control. it seems to me that this is the case. it's true, but look, and we're with you. uh, discussion - they are very much connected these two tracks that we are discussing, but in fact, people who are now they sit in front of the tv, and they, of course, are interested, but from the point of view of such general erudition. here is this information war, stuffing fakes. and where do they crush with fakes, where do they beat? what kind of foam people are watching, of course, but i will just give one example

to people, of course, this is also interesting. and this is very useful for them, because the more people follow these fakes. the more. they understand the methodology of this terrorist formation, which, it must be said, is of very high quality and professionally uses the information sphere, all the better. well, i'll give you one example. well, here, for example, uh, it means that these talks about the fact that we are concentrating equipment on the territory there. this station, in fact, these are the shots. here in this notorious dust of ukrainian intelligence, under. well, as soon as i hear ukrainian intelligence, i immediately understand, you know, here we bake ourselves and sell the invaders at the zaporozhye nuclear power plant. they deployed military equipment and ammunition. yes, there is a person who is in the subject, and this case debunks and debunks like this way please. my god what dill degenerate. i was in this car in the hall. personally, i myself saw everything there, the last photo. i did it myself, climbing onto the crane. this is not military

equipment or ammunition of ordinary russian guard trucks . there’s even a typical russian guard tarpaulin gas-3309, it costs white, the military doesn’t have such a thing, the russian guard. there it guards the perimeter in the control of the station, no tanks, guns and other things interfere, there is not even a trace of another stupid dill video superfluous to that proof. so it's good for our people? is there a question here? in what who saw the first line, and who will get to this, because you understand from the other side, like this shaft-shaft, it's me again, here i am all the time, the farther, the more i draw these parallels. well, that is, remember, when it was in force, this igil, banned on the territory of the russian federation , remember what a wave of discussion played, each of their videos, how they filmed them in hollywood studios with hollywood directors. there was great director director, picture, and so on and so forth, a huge number of people experienced this emotional impact. then, in general, it turned out that all this. well, a beautiful picture, behind

which there is something, but not really there. but it will be later, and yes, people are watching this for people. this is interesting and important, but for people it is much more important, another track is an attempt to understand, this is their activity in the information space to what extent? associated or unrelated to the possibility of real actions in confirmation what they are talking about? yes, you can say, well, of course, they will shell the bridge there, now they won’t dare there, who knows, in your opinion. you, in fact, are analyzing the connection, as if whipping up informational foam. yes, i don't really understand. i'm very interested to hear your analysis. to what extent does the amount of information foam affect their real readiness, in your opinion, did something like that? in confirmation, because if we proceed from the fact that the curators demand results, like nikita sergeevich said that, in general, the curators can also say at some point. waldemar you are infinitely talented your guys make such

vids. we just, well, maybe something else, because it doesn't work anymore. but all these stuffing is a game in the moment when right now you are throwing out for the first time all the people who do not understand the situation are such aha wow, kherson offensive. we just entered there and all the people who are there think, but do we need to find it. who should we support, uh, these are all fakes, throws this game with the population. yeah such games where you choose and all those guerrilla movements. they are warmed up by it. yes, smart people will see. wow. this is really the national guard. and those who are not very aware of the situation will think so. wow, the russians really find the eu for the powder, after all, uh, the games are psychological, as in principle, the entire ukrainian regime can be described with a very cool saying. see yaroslav, we will continue now. what do i mean, i do not really understand what we are dealing with watching. here uh, well, i don't want to take a real example. well, we saw there there are a lot of films about terrorists, well, these situations are

from somewhere and in vain is one thing, when the terrorists for the thousandth first time, if our demands are not met, we will now shoot someone there, bring a person to his knees on camera. he is crying there, this is saliva coming out and so on. he holds a gun, then lately it means so. to warn this once is a class, but another thing is when it’s real, well, relatively speaking, there in an hour you will get a head in an hour you will get a head, in your opinion. we are with what kind of terrorists are we dealing with those who are only able to escalate and are imprisoned for this, and i won’t go further, or with those who, as they bargain, can embody part of their e, threats, and on the rise. i think this is something in between them, because after all, they have not yet come up with anything so grandiose for us, but all sorts of terror of the population, such as petals to undermine partisan movements. they

can do it, but it is precisely serious actions, like , uh, in contrast to khersons, beloved, who in general it didn't happen it won't happen. so, it's something between terrorists and terrorists and twitter, who just write, but sometime a person is like that. yeah, i support, i'm the twitter terrorists and they'll go with them, but it happens. this is very rare, which is why they are more such terrorists on the internet. why am i asking you, because e is objective. yes , i understand, i myself said about it that the worse they are at the front, the more their words will be, the more they will puff out their cheeks and speak. i am everything i understand it, but look on the other side. let's take it. uh, there's a period there 2 months ago. after all , no one could imagine that they would shell a nuclear power plant, no one could imagine. that is, more precisely, there were people who said, listen, as soon as they have the opportunity to fire at something like that. they may well start doing this two months ago. i think a person who

would say about a nuclear power plant, everyone would say yes. well , okay, you're good at intimidating the population, like, no-no. annoy the people. petals that fall asleep, donetsk now i'm talking about the fact that, well, it seems obvious and yes, the petals that fall asleep, donetsk, which are prohibited by all conventions. well listen a month two months ago. we talked about shelling. we talked about this terrible everything, but the petals. we simply couldn’t imagine, because if the shelling has at least some military justification, then this is just a purely terrorist story, but they went for it in their development, that is, roughly speaking, a month ago, there 2 months ago. they didn’t scatter the petals, and then me and the people who sit in front of the tv switched to this, they are interested in the trend, what we are dealing with, it is going crazy more and more, not only in words, but also in actions or me. here, very briefly, there is such a concept as the level of tolerance, not sociological, but from the sphere of medicines. yes, that's the case with

this nazi regime. in my opinion. uh, there was one big assumption on our part. now i will say such a critical version. yes but me it seems that this is important. at that moment, when the cream was immediately collected at that moment, at the moment when on april 13, our representative of the ministry of defense of the kanashenkos, after the shelling of belgorod kursk , announced that such a practice would lead to the fact that we would hit the center make a decision, including in kiev, that there are wise men who begin to say that you will hit washington there, no. we have performers who are sitting in kiev one way or another and paralyze the system of government. who would not me you can talk for a while, if there are no specific performers in the form of zelensky prime ministers, and so on and so forth, despite the fact that all of them, of course, under their supervision, uh, puppet as they want. so here is the level of tolerance. artyom is right, you noticed from the point of view of the trend. every time it rises, see first the shelling of kursk belgorod, then the drg, then outright terrorist attacks. now crimea is very important, what did he say,

rhyme undermining the power lines of the kursk nuclear power plant, what did he say? we promised americans. we were asked not to shell with the help of rso heim from the territory of russia, but america does not consider crimea the territory of russia, respectively, we now see what is happening in crimea and in this regard, the shelling of a nuclear power plant. and god forbid any other incidents on our territory. this is all a consequence of the impunity of what is at a particular moment. in my opinion. this level of tolerance had to be lowered as much as possible, because at some point let's carefully recall the situation in march and april, they were afraid delegations of lviv to come. in general, zelensky said that i am now going out in public , this may be my last appearance. now this is the impunity of the theoretical regime. in my opinion, she provokes them, you know, i will say very much now. just a little, maybe too much. uh, vulgar and youthful there is such a meme on the internet. what will you do to me? i am in another city and sends another person.

the same thing is happening right now, because these petals. and these acts of sabotage, after which, i'm sorry, this is also very important after our announcement that there will be an answer, but there is still no answer, they provoke them even more at this level. yes, check this red line, in my opinion. the trend should be stopped, i do not agree, but i remind you that in march, in fact, the troops were standing next to kiev and therefore, accordingly, there were questions related to how much it makes sense to be there. after the first phase, the situation has fundamentally changed fundamentally, the other question is red, the line, of course, these red lines are present, so they have to be built, as it were , too, and i partly agree that it’s impossible for representatives to hold them separately. let's be fair. that is, as it were, respectively, when heavy equipment was transported. i said that it is necessary to disassemble the piece of iron, at least, respectively, as a station, so as not to simply give accumulation. all this was not done accumulation happened, as if we understand everything perfectly, this made it possible to overtake, respectively the same searches for tanks safely under the same

kherson, by the way, that's why they are physically there, there are about 200 something. here i am modernizing, but anyway, here, that is, how it all happened. it's just something else . let's understand now. right now we are in the situation we are in. ah, respectively, the first, of course, all questions would be removed by, respectively, military operations. well, as a matter of fact, if you took everything now, the kramator with inglorious no problems of course, it would not have happened with the energy-gift, of course, naturally, you understand, yes, that is, the problem lies in the fact that what i just think is that if they took kramatorsk, slavyansk, the problems with the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant could be even stronger, because they would also need this loss with something. as they say, there are issues of information loss. and there are questions of several concentrations of weapons, that is, the problem is as follows . naturally, it is the process of breaking a very long, long, long time. you do not create a situation in which, accordingly, the answer starts for you, respectively, of this particular type of action, it is clear that they are even more conditioned not by military components, paradoxically, but by the economic component they have a problem in economic timings precisely in winter with everything

else, then there are chains of varieties. this is all and the european council, which is starting to roll back , as it were, from support. all the rest of the money they are now accumulating for themselves, accordingly, they are thrown off 800 for fuel, and they need 15 billion problems. this is not the military component, if now the military component were fundamental in all directions. naturally, a principled wife. we discussed it differently in this studio, we didn’t guess, most likely, if the situation is different. the question is now the following, that against this background, there is naturally an attempt to remove as much as possible in the information component and the task is be saved in the information box. have them not happened. by the way, due to the fact that there was an accumulation, including under kherson, respectively, contour. it’s just that it would be very meaningless, but how would they say, in this case, how would the last very important moment be very serious, but suppose for a second, what would happen if god forbid, respectively, we fucked up, for example, because there, according to zelensky. he would become a banner, the next would be a mortgaged still deep question, how would someone be more dangerous you know, if it became a banner that would be buried at a depth of two meters, then there could be

such a banner and the point of view that it was from the point of view. count even more. point of view, this is an excellent banner, respectively, this is a martyr. this is an information field. everything will warm up. immediately despite the fact that the main operational control of the mortgage came, damn it, the hostage who, of course, would immediately take everything away and would hold it for a long time, would not experience everything for the problems of the severodonetsk, an arc with the entire northern donetsk loop, that is, the problems lie in next check the clock, but if you want to inflict damage and thus limit various actions by this damage. so you choose sensitive areas that can really affect it. if for you, look at the european one, what is the factor itself in your economy, you have caused this damage to the people. naturally, he immediately reduced the supply of heavy weapons and came up with economic support, like in canada, the united states, so they are supplied. it’s clear where your points are not always located on the territory of ukraine, i understood, but look at deed. yes, actually, uh, here. eh, where did we go to that you partly didn’t reveal us? this is really. again, returning to the fact that we are dealing with a terrorist entity

that behaves outside the frame, as a rule, but countering it. you need to always look for a balance where you remain a state, because we say that there is a terrorist hornet's nest. we are a state concerned about our security. we are solving this problem, and then the question arises that terrorists will always behave like terrorists, and conditional law enforcement officers, which in this case are we, they have a much stricter framework. listen, well, any terrorist until the moment he sits with the hostages. he is the target. and i ’m sure that every sniper just sharpens his teeth to take it off, but without an order he can’t, yes he can’t, because there is no order, but exactly at the moment when they took him and put him with his muzzle in the ground of a terrorist, terrorists become, whom a terrorist becomes a procedural, means an object in respect of which the rights must be respected rules and so on in this way the state differs from the gang, and in this sense. i emotionally agree with a

lot of what nikita sergeevich says. but our complexity is absolutely agree, but our complexity. it turns on from here i agree, but 100 i'm here. yes, i say, our difficulty lies in the fact that we have to behave like a state. and when we listen to what guteris says about the fact that the iaea will come to control something there. we, as people, understand that this is called gur informational noise, which speak? when there's nothing to say? well, just listen to him. the un secretariat, in close contact with the iaea, came to the conclusion that in ukraine we have the capabilities in the field of logistics and security, so that the trip of the iaea mission to the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant from kiev would take place, subject to the consent of russia and ukraine, you understand, that is, the kuterish says in fact, but he is the secretary general of the un and we can tell ourselves a thousand times sitting in front of the tv what kind of nonsense he is talking about. what is the consent of ukraine and russia between ukraine and

russia does not have a negotiation process, there are no points of contact, and he says, that is, you know, in principle, uh, you can save the earth, uh, if you find water on mars well, well, well, well done, handsome and there are some other versions ? well, no, i suggested this one, like, act work, but you need to do the same. eh, we need to do something with this, uh, well, we still have to deal with this situation and, as it were, yes, we will coincide with the un, and so on. here and from this. ah, closed situation. i don’t understand how to get out that we just watched this story, because that he explains a lot, in particular. what is the difficulty in combating this terrorist entity, as we are talking about, it seems to me that of course, despite the fact that it bears all the signs of a terrorist entity. we need to understand how this is different. and there is a fundamental difference. i will now explain from that terrorism under the sign of which the 21st century actually began in our country on september 11 , alka, and yes, then the islamic state. then you understand, then he gave a mandate to

fight terrorism. and now actually splicing has occurred. you see, the coalition is a terrorist organization and a terrorist coalition is recognized, then there was an anti-terrorist coalition. now a terrorist coalition. and this is a much more difficult task. you understand this fundamentally. i agree. so, in this fundamental difference there is an additional fundamental complexity, that is, because the roof is everything because on the one hand , they must act as a sane state, which is a member of the un and un cooperation on the other hand. we see that he is in this situation. well, as you put it, but if you put it that way , then even more so to me. eh, god himself ordered to cover this story, or at least flirt with this ukraine. yesterday i brought this situation up well, namely the roof. and you are like this. look, i brought this situation up yesterday. yes, imagine, amaze from this history of ukraine ukraine because of the zaporozhye station. yes and

we do not recognize this whole conflict. take it soon north korea does not recognize south korea north korea considers south korea as a regime that occupies the southern part of them, so to speak, in the communist kind, which means that there are nuclear power plants in south korea. you can imagine a situation in which north korea says something to us, these southern cinnamon, and the most interesting thing is that their cannon artillery shoots. wait for it to be shot there . northern cinnamon will be hammered at the south korean nuclear power plant and the whole world will say something like that, you need to go talk with kim and kim jong irr. yeah, it’s necessary, yes, and where does north korea say, this is a south korean, they fired at themselves? uh huh, they are like this you can imagine that in this situation someone will go to kim chen, which means that kim chen will sit there for something. here it is in costumes kim jong yr will come out, which means that in some kind of kimono, it means that cigars are impossible to imagine. you know, in zelensky’s case, this happens,

which means that the un in this situation is not the un. you know, i have been to south korea several times and i know that even in south korea they don’t expect such things from north korea, because the united states really represent north korea the irresponsibility of the detachment of terrorism, but nevertheless , in north korea, with all the specificity of the north korean system, there are still, well, responsible politicians who understand that there are some things, yes, a peculiar form of government and ideology, but i did not have time to say the state. here we asked a question. why did you ask the key question, why even we are here it would seem that nothing can surprise us. why are we surprised yet we did not think that a month ago 2 months ago this could happen, but let's we will be surprised that the reaction to this is not at all what we expected, that is, it actually supports. uh, nikita spoke about the fact that there is tolerance, i would say in a simple

way, just the brakes on the car failed. i once found myself in a situation where i had brakes. i was horrified, and these people have failed their brakes, but they get some kind of masochistic pleasure. from this you understand, they are rushing into the abyss, they are o well noticing. it 's important to say, well they didn't listen because of them, for example, a car with failed brakes is correct, but the fact is that zelensky in his slippers and in a t-shirt knows or at least believes that he is not driving a car without brakes , but he is a stuntman. and when he goes into the abyss, there will be boxes or an awning will be stretched, but all the rest. yes, god bless him yaroslav in this sense. eh, really. here is a very interesting topic from the point of view. well, here are our ideas about what is possible, what is impossible what, well, how, how, how what do you react to. well a lot work with information, and so on. yes, in this sense, in your opinion, we are changing or we need to go somewhere. i have a feeling that we

have many people. here's to this fast-paced. this is not ready for informational madness. and you can prepare for this. well, to say, the guys there, yes, you really are now here are the flowers. but there will be berries. there are none, you can't prepare for it. all this has to be understood by man. bye. and it won't bite you personally, it wo n't hurt you. and you will think that why are we in general, it started like this, for example, i myself am from belgorod, and it was in belgorod that is, while somewhere there was shooting far away everyone thought, well, what about the ukrainians? well, everything is bad, when i flew in once, belgorod is very strong. i was on this mass shelling so very hard and in belgorod everything absolutely changed people's understanding changed they say, yes, we were wrong now we need to do just that more, what is happening it confirms our correct intention that we did it, but does not prove it comes to information is changing very quickly, very accurately and not i all follow her. and that you need to be in time enough to delve into. oh, and here, after all, another question is

that not everyone is in time and not everyone wants to be in time. so you said, you need some, but some get bored, some get bored, and some did not want to take. i’ve been here several times during my trips to the dpr, and you’re paying attention to the liberated territory of ukraine, including through your region. well, the closer you get to the border, the more you have the same cars with convicts in the belgorod region at the border, it is impossible to see a car without a z at all. no, it’s possible to see a car without this on it, or it’s impossible, you understand, and in this sense, but perhaps zelensky can afford to drive like that, because they are using the right methods or the wrong methods. they are at home. here is this degree. well, let's say information mobilization and they could do it, as it were, and therefore he seems to be lying, what is called not redder? yes, and he understands that they will buy their own, because he brought his own people to this situation

, they are flowing, because they are roofing. well, here we go let's hear one more statement, please. no, there are no objective barriers to prevent the magot mission from getting to the zaporizhia npp today, with mr. guterish , we discussed the details of this mission nuclear blackmail can't exactly be the transporter of any such missions. russia must immediately and unconditionally allow representatives of megate to the station and also immediately and unconditionally to withdraw its troops from the territory of the station, the world has the power to ensure this. spage here, you understand? in what history is the same story when we talk about terrorists, that the state is limited by laws, rules by some of these same terrorists are not limited than in the information space. here yaroslav is some of his own material when he writes, he should check there to double-check to think about it, this is this sculpts just humpbacked from his shoulder and

again the question arises, what on earth what is he information space, how to replay it? well, that is, with an absolutely confident look, given that he has a large percentage of the population there, which means a saucepan, which means he will do everything russian, and i imagine. and what, well, there are a huge number of people in the west who also believe that, well, many cannot imagine, and here we really will win, well, i’m asking the question of how the truth will win, the truth will win, because in any case, according to what some of these suits, of course, first of all, here are the military economics is a military movement, but teachers, philosophers, journalists should come in, that is, people who work mentally in the mental field should come in. uh, this, by the way, is also about what they created. you know that yesterday they opened a criminal case there against one of the citizens. and irpenya is near kiev, uh, cities there for the guys, yes, yes, who on the phone,

yes, who on the phone told her friends that in fact, when there were russians, there were no horrors here, nobody he didn’t kill and didn’t throw him in jail, so they sew a criminal case on her because she told her friends over the phone that it actually happened exactly like that, and not like how to tell on ukrainian television. this system works there exclusively through punitive measures. eh, well, the authorities, most likely, yes, that is, as soon as you stutter in the direction of the truth, as soon as you express doubts, they instantly brand you and throw you out. well, listen, but then again . are you so surprised at this, well, you are not surprised if we say that this is arranged according to principle of a terrorist sect. that's right, that 's how it should work. so, as a result, what should happen, when we liberate the territory, how much we will liberate now, i don’t know, but in any case, i think that in the future we need to liberate as much as possible in order to remove all this threat and clean it up, of course, the decision is for our soldiers, of course, therefore, now everything that everyone, that, can help the guys from the other

side in the liberated territory, our administrative resources are entering our managers, who have experience have relations without russia well, it will not rise in any way. yes, our journalists should come in, i repeat, philosophers, teachers who work with consciousness, new programs should be carried out. psychiatrists are very important. why because i, for example, uh, well, studied quite a serious experience of identification, which was carried out in germany yes, so carl yun how it was done yes, one of the main mechanisms. it was just an exposure and show the crimes that the nazis committed, and in this case it is the nazis. terrorists, but for now, well, the key is definitely our soldiers. yes, i'm sorry colleague. i am really like a senior cotton who will repeat that carthage must be destroyed , look, but the problem is in the sequence. if indeed we all think, i think this is true , and the current terrorist regime. so let's still draw the most accurate analogies when fighting terrorists. yes, they are fighting with cells, they are fighting with fighters, but one of the main

goals of all special services is the elimination of leaders bandit formations is the elimination of those who, one way or another, are a banner on the ideological level, but on the managerial level and on the financial one. see. now i will try to explain in logic. here is a colleague, rightly, says the version that zelensky can be a kind of symbol. in the event of its liquidation, it is fair, but the question is , please tell me, what do you think is the level of fatigue from ukraine, yes, even despite the hypothetical, for example, absence. now i won’t say there the liquidation of zelensky, it will be thanks to this symbol, but decline if they do not have gas, if there is still the same inflation. yes , in the same way they will forget this zelensky. yes, they will try to design a new leader with information technologies because of a false one from someone else, but look also at a very important point, no one will. uh, again, uh, to challenge the fact that the special services, again, by virtue of their activities, with the help of agents of other different

tools, have communication with the leaders, sometimes, especially the american ones, they are definitely here with me no one will argue and agree mediated communication. with this leader. it never shows that, if this leader of the formation bank violates these red lines, then the next leader, even if, of course, the network- centric structure remains in the case of the terrorist state of ukraine, it will also remain, but at least the desire to cross those very red lines. the new leader will be smaller and the second point is very important. let's remember. why was ben lad liquidated at some point. which already from the point of view of its influence, as it were, well, worked out and but at the same time he was important, just this is what is in uh in a counterargument. he was an important symbol. see nothing to touch you live, so in my opinion. the story about the fact that zelensky will become a symbol will become, but the information agenda. it is

updated so quickly, including in the west, that it is a symbol after some time, maybe it will adjust for the last time. now look nearby. i remind you that the leader of the igil was carried out, respectively, feet first. and that after that all the organizations stopped working in in this case, the meaning of the network organization, the question is that in their rules it is subject to political components, so it was necessary to raise their rating of responsibility. he. naturally. you are not in another spare part, as far as this country is concerned, the formation was exactly the same. once again, this is a networked north caucasus, like the situation with isis, was resolved after you stopped ima, first of all, replenishment, the system works from the point of view of external authorities. that's good. let's say now you have a pumping of heavy weapons, which they are produced in ukraine, where it comes from, it comes now from the usa it comes from canada if you turn off the financial taps, if you, accordingly, incur the same damage as they did, for example, in the economy of the european union, then their own population will begin to squeeze out, which is their now the rating is falling is in third place. at the first place. although laid in second place, the arrest officer remains in internal sociology, you want, which, by the way, says a lot about the current ukrainian society, if zaluzhny okay, i don’t argue,

but at least i understand, that's what's in second place. by the way, it was the arrestovich himself who said that the consciousness of the ukrainian people is ideal for working in politics. there, like, instead of brains, an ideal gas, because you are something and that this is a question, and yet the second, how this system works gradually save you insert it, start grinding pass pass pass pass, that is, shoot it and you now want to take it up . and if he survives, he will now be a man who resisted aggression, who it survived. and after that he knows just know me the second, i don't know. how corresponds will affect the actions laid down in the full degree. for all that, as if the main part of the luke is engaged in the main part of the data is derived from the external period, if you want to take, of course, seriously influence these decisions. you either economically crush the color, or militarily, dota-crush, that is, the problem is as follows. now this is from the point of view of domestic consumption, it may be relevant, because retribution is necessary for what is happening, but here she also understand, corresponds to where specifically. this retribution must be inflicted. and another very important point, these red lines. they are built in

other directions as well. if you say, initially there should be a supply of heavy weapons, and these heavy weapons are coming and you do not react to this in any way. this is the problem, the problem lies in the fact that weapons are now increasing, respectively, for example, the training of representatives of ukraine in the uk, they will be ready around january. yes, by january, what will they be ready for, what have you done to tell you to soften it. they will still come in january. that is , your main task is to survive the winter. but one does not cancel the other. well , well, you must admit that one thing is different, which is possible and economically, as it does. i work in the military at the same time. one can question the effectiveness of these measures that you confirmed this to the economy, respectively, already now everywhere it completely changed the situation from the test after it changed this picture of the world from the fact that you, as it were, from the test, exactly began to disassemble separately taken, for example, commanders. they say what happened in the beginning. who now recalls the question of the effectiveness of these measures. we have a limited amount of resources. we need to choose measures that will really affect the situation, and not expertly good now. we can throw all the cities there, what will it change? mm, of course we didn't do any of that. you see, when we spoke here is a point colleague.

please tell me from the first twenty here representatives of ukrainian politics tell me who we liquidated, who became a symbol of this, no, this. no, not in the information space. this did not unite ukraine and the second moment. artyom grigorievich spoke more about the sect. yes, the theoretical sect. yes, that's for example, every time you need to destroy the sect. they start with the leader, they start with the leader, the cell falls apart, or it is sent to a colleague, or the analogy is false, we do not say that this is a theoretical sector, or we say that we simply do not have tools in it liquidation. do you seriously think for a second that from the fact that zelensky is walking at a low rating , suppose now he decides to leave or he will be liquidated or something like that, the position of ukraine will change from this. i think that the red lines that we once in heavy weapons need to be done, of course, so lose i play colleagues. it seems to me that in your dispute between the beautiful and the good, i support the good

press. yaroslav what do you say i will say very interesting. ah, you can’t make ideologists out of the ukrainian regime. that is, if we even kill, at least from someone, for example, it will really be an information war. this will be the symbol. you don't understand how much information there is in ukraine - it's all they don't know the real situation; every day since eight years they have been investing the same media twitter facebook instagram contact. they have steps everywhere to influence people, and therefore any murder of a person precisely in power will lead to the fact that here is russia of aggression. she kills him, will it be like? eh, because he's right, right colleagues? sorry but without this is not there, and without this we are occupiers terrorists. there, the last seven words are not counted. why should we go? and without this, our prisoners in relation, in general, russians do not happen. you see, every time they speak, they are like that. you look at what they do with

people who have russian passports, which turns out to be wrong, wrong, neutral , and that's where it all happens. and we are still talking. oh, you know, if we do this, it will be even worse there, yes, there already, but we need to understand surnames and you, by the way, dmitry, i don’t take a draw in this dispute, i’m interested in both points of view are presented in the information space. i think now in front of the tv exactly the same, as if the dialogues and disputes arose. yes, and for everyone, i’ll just give you a few names, and dzhokhar dudayev shamil basaev when they were destroyed in one way or another, yes, for some part of the bandits they became inside the bandit sect, well, some kind of internal sign, but from the point of view influence on the situation, of course, the destruction of dudayeva and

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