next, my good sing loved, when i was drunk was always loved five. yes , in general, and sang a lot, and basically something to say, in general revolutionary song everyone knows what they called me restless spoke. well, that's it, until 6:00 in the morning. we don't sleep guys. he will not give us everything, and this is not characteristic of many at all. for example, i can't drink like that. i fall asleep right away, and that's it. i also had a mediocre friend who

drank this and fell asleep. what is this to you? did you give any incentive? yes? well, of course, so to speak. i would like to to go somewhere, to yell, to dance, to sing, in general, as he remembers van gogh, in general, if you read his notes, he wrote, which means, in general, a weekly work , work of paint paint paint, and in the evening it is absinthe and brothel. unloading here after you parted ways with the ordi brothers. you began to earn well yours became. known. after all, the truth moved to the corpantia gallery. it's such a famous old gallery and i used to work there and get it for those things. uh, pretty decent money by the standards. i moved into a normal apartment. that's much closer to the lore, then in the morning you get up, yes, curtains and here and there the louvre and the king you then felt some such concepts you have funny feel like a king that we saw me right? i

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, he was familiar with all the local russian celebrities, he had admirers among the american public, who were able to appreciate his graphics of art and culture. a lot of the artist's work went to private collections, but after a while he suddenly felt that he had conditionally hit a wall created by the artistic mafia, a close-knit system of orguilers, art critics, speculators and art artisans. you understand probably therefore, so to speak, in general, i, and also in the western world, are not very recognized, because i go absolutely my own way. i still have the audacity to say that drawing is a very important professional thing. it is necessary, and today professionalism, in general, is simply not recognized, for example, the headmistress. ah, the whitney museum where

only american artists are exhibited. she stated that professional artists are very little interested in us, because we are interested in the dynamics of sex and everything that connected with modern modern technologies. is this art? well, you know, art is an eternity for today, an extensible thing. no, well, a jar of shark shit is cut and so on. here's what's on display. is this art. i personally saw lots and lots of bunches of bananas painted blue in london. and what is this art, or what? the new language is the message of the artist to any person to the viewer so that his consciousness wakes up. here you are looking at, for example, a painted banana. yes, what do you think

nothing, nothing, but the artist wants you to think, you understand? you are a banana that was painted blue red, well, yes, so do you think at all? what did he want to say? looking at a picture or a banana or even a pile of bananas, i should think about what message the artist should put in there, and he should form an artistic image for me. i have a feeling too at work heart at the end. don't you know, because it exists. the principle of enjoyment in a person in general, what we used to enjoy, and what was prompted by such bright thoughts in us, etc. color harmony. yes, there are drawing lines. it was one principle to date, the principle of enjoyment, and another. excuse me, what kind? we have in paris for 3 days such a colossal snobbish fiak, this is more than 200 galleries from all over the world selectively exhibiting what they work with. i walk,

so to speak, and look at the crowds of people who are constantly discussing something, so to speak. basically. this youth ticket costs 40 euros. it's pretty serious for a young man. nobody buys anything. there is a box on on the cardboard floor, sometimes there is either a piece of paper or some kind of rag, most often empty. so i stand aside and let sarah find out. how much does this box cost and she is immediately surrounded by dealers already trained young guys who begin to explain to her what kind of box it is. that's because at first i say right away, i find out is it just left or is it already an object for sale. here they are, almost with tears in their eyes, begin to explain to sali in general, what is the charm and what is the uniqueness of this box, which you can see here

find here. and it turns out that this box costs only 25,000 euros worth three plastic buckets red blue and green i tell sarah to find out. the red one has already been sold. the blue and green prices are only 45.000. here but this is a unique thing, because the artist is a promising sculptor. here's how we get to it. after all, your picture is not worth as much as it is a desert, not my pictures at all, but no, well, in my picture, let's say it costs more, but anyway, so to speak, of course, compared to what sold in the area. the so-called paintings, of course i have prices. uh, very modest you yourself said that everyone is watching and not buying anything from it. and if they buy, say, a cut shark, but it doesn’t go to the house most often of a collector, because, let’s say, no

bank will give such interest for 5 years. you can make money on the same boxes - there are special colossal rooms there with heating there with humidity and that's it. it's a job worth 5 years later the broker that works with you, who talked you into investing the money. here in this thing, he calls you and says, we now expose your life, we think that if you bought it for 5 million. today we will be able to sell it for 12, that is, 12 million. what happened during this time? and the apparatus that inflates the name of this artist works very simply. he's not one thing, let's say a shark. he also sells sawn into pigs, for example, uh, the same domain. hers , he sawed the piglet in half. well, this is the most expensive pig in the world, each piglet is formalin half cut with an electric saw 5 million and 5

ml. you'll only climb in if you put it together. do n't you have pigs here, or what? and the little thing? i just came with my pig, i said under my arm, i'll give you one more pig, not a damn thing like that will cost me so much. how much so we already have everything. we have certain people. you understand, there is a selection going on here, with whom we can work, who we rely on, who is not stubborn, and so on , this is all much more difficult, like a revolution of the young against stagnation in art, yes, as i understand it, this was a challenge to the bourgeois because france is very bourgeois europe, it just mired in e, bourgeois being, and someone wanted to blow it up and that's it. these were very fun times, and then the merchants have already made big business out of this.

evolution ends with merchants that 's right. yes, the revolution, don quixote makes use of her sancho pants. and what do you think will remain of our time? that's right? this is also a big big cast, very interesting , you know, for example, ilya, in my opinion, said that there would be nothing left except for us, except for garbage and shit. yes, a tavern yes, well, probably so say, if we now quickly end our existence with the help of new weapons or by destroying nature or ecological explosion and catastrophe? of course, so to speak, we will generally stop at this, but i am an optimist. i believe, so to speak, for the best. mikhail shemyakin sleeps for 4 hours a day, then how much he manages to do for the remaining 20 inexplicably much he draws, babbles , photographs. he writes librettos for ballets. prepares scenery sketches arranges performances and

carnivals, including in venice, what will remain of this in the future. yes, of course, today he will not say even himself, but that he outlined the profile of history is beyond doubt. information channel on the first continues its work time will tell artem sheinin. we are working live and today, august 19, is the day when we discuss events that, well, no one, so to speak. i think they do not leave indifferent. of course, i’m not talking about the fact that august 19, 1991 was, but a bunch, after which, by the way, many of the events that we are dealing with now, more precisely, with the consequences of these events in some the meaning of the word began or intensified and so on on august 19 and there were also many surreals, since we are also talking about a surreal situation. this

one, due to his state of health, mikhail gorbachev is unable to perform his duties, but of course, we are not talking about this. we are talking about the fact that , well, according to an amazing section of circumstances, there may be such a day on the nineteenth of august, when we also have a certain concentration of anxious expectations. and the anxious expectation of such surrealistic observations is due to the fact that yesterday our the ministry of defense said that e ukrainian armed formations are preparing to commit. eh, they are preparing to commit provocations in the area of ​​the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, and a possible date for such provocations was called, august 19, it’s another matter that, probably, this sphere is arranged in this way, that if we are talking about august 19 and let’s sort of understand that we generally ready and aware. well, maybe not on august 19, but the fact that they are preparing, this is for sure, and realizing that these guys who have been frostbitten to the whole head will not calm down. and

well, here is an idea voiced by the ministry of defense of the russian federation please. the ultimate goal of the provocation is to create an exclusion zone up to 30 km for the introduction of international forces, foreign observers into the territory of the zaec, as well as accusations of the russian armed forces of nuclear terrorism. as a conclusion from the above , we would like to draw your attention to the fact that if the negative development of the situation related to the shelling of the nuclear power plant in ukraine continues, the issue of putting the fifth and sixth power units into cold reserve may be considered, which will lead to shutdown of the zaporozhye nuclear power plant, that is, look. it's like a remote dialogue mediated, that is, we say guys. well, that is, if you do not reassure you will continue. but this is, uh, its own indecency. naturally, in this situation, we will consider the question that if you threaten the security of the stations with shelling, we will, so to speak, consider the issues of stopping, and putting the fifth and sixth blocks into a cold reserve,

and so on right there on the other side. and this is exactly the part of the schura that i'm talking about, right there ta side e through the mouths of their people who know how to speak clever words, not those who shoot, not those who blame us for this, but those who know how to speak clever words and who understand about nuclear energy. and this is not a joke, the following text says in response. shutdown of all power units of the zaporozhye nuclear power plant and the loss of all power sources can lead to failure of the cooling system and damage to the core of the reactor plant and the release of radioactive substances into the environment precisely in this way. according to the scenario, an accident occurred at the japanese nuclear power plant fukushima-1 in 2011. however, if the disaster in japan occurred due to natural disasters, then at the zaporizhzhya npp it could happen due to criminal actions and the intention of the occupying forces of the russian federation attention due to the actions of the troops the russian federation

will have a fukushima variant of fukushima, representatives of the ukrainian side say. whose artillery? for several days, it has been shelling this very station, and it is shelling, including waste storage and the infrastructure associated with the cooling of these units. and what do you think, what is it? and you understand that this is just some kind of surreal beyond, but still i don’t know about you, but, to be honest, i think so. well, here is the iaea well, maybe, somehow, the iaea has just arrived here. how are you now, something like this with magate. here they are , and like ours, representatives of international organizations say. ah that, like as something here is somewhere in early september. maybe they will come and and so it’s already kind of warmed up, something started to glow, and at that time, with a breath of wind, the speech of the general

secretary of this very one, he is from the words, which i understand that no one is going to decide anything and has no idea how it all is, or it can be solved simply. listen to guterish and understand me. the un secretariat, in close contact with the iaea , has concluded that in ukraine we have the logistical and security capabilities to allow an iaea mission to travel to the zaporozhye nuclear power plant from kiev, subject to the consent of russia and ukraine. savior well, that is, saving here is the color at the end of the tunnel. and as if grtr says, listen, we have everything ready. in principle, in general, it's a matter of garbage, it's a matter of little. well , just to russia ukraine agreed. so wait, sir, or whoever is monsieur, so the whole problem is due to the fact that russia ukraine cannot agree and do not agree and ukraine does not need it. she needs the exact opposite. that is, you speak, as it were, words in which there is no meaning. you talk just to talk and

that leaves me so disappointed just like that of this little hope, which is then un international law. this is not here, and sergey ryabkov brings us back to reality. they say that reality is arranged a little differently, no rich people, no un, no all these international stories or not. and there are them as the only guarantee that these peanuts do not fuss further, that's what the kiev leadership has lost a sense of reality on the issue behind s and is ready to arrange a second chernobyl, the presence of the russian military at the nuclear power plant, a guarantee that if the chernobyl scenario is not implemented, the establishment of a demilitarized zone around the nuclear power plant would lead to a further increase in risks. russia is determined to ensure that the visit of the magathen mission takes place, which means that the ukrainian leadership has lost, and he clearly has. well, he wants to speak

simply, to say something, the problem exists, why the ukrainian side needs it. we all understand perfectly well, because the lack of real successes at the front, but it makes it necessary to create the appearance of some other, but successes and where we are getting further in this in this i mean, we can move and move. and whether we move, of course, but we, of course, do not move anywhere. in any case, we see a blocking position, and even if we imagine that the mgt mission will reach zaporizhzhya, of course, we understand everything very well. well, she can't see. even these fragments of highmors or whatever they fired at her to say, yes, it was the american artillery volley fire installation there, and this zaporozhye with just like if they were some kind of commission, he would get to elenovka and unambiguously confirmed seeing with their own eyes what it means to be an american installation, they will say anyway. we

remember this from the osce mission in the donbass. yes , artillery shells from an unidentified place have not been installed. unfortunately, we cannot verify. where they flew from saw this repeatedly. that is, in this sense, there is no need to have special hopes. although, you still need to use every opportunity to attract. attention problems, you see, they won’t be shelling so insolently. and you know when we hear the statement. here these e figures. here is yesterday's meeting with guterish zelensky said that once russia is shelling zaporozhye. we won't even ask. what the hell. yes, here, here. uh, russia would have fired at that station, where the russian military is located, one more question does not arise in this regard, if our task is to arrange a nuclear catastrophe on the territory of ukraine, how zelensky convinces the international community, not only ukraine, that we will not get a hangover from rivne s. that would be

more logical, yes, but zaporozhye is closer, right? well lord they can reach there. we showed that it is closer to us than the clouds flies there to europe yes, and accordingly, but it is better not to ask this question. and the most important thing. here is a note. this is what struck me most of all yesterday, the mayor of the self-proclaimed. here are the cities. poplars e fedorov e, which the city of melitopol is under our control and says it is necessary urgently because of this coming catastrophe, which russia is preparing at the zaporozhye nuclear power plant because of the radioactive cloud. uh, already now it is necessary to evacuate the inhabitants of melitopol, he says, sitting in zaporozhye yes, controlled by ukraine, which is, if you are on the map look much closer to zaporozhye with twice as close. actually, no one in melitopol, fucking 90 km to zaporozhye 40-45. i have already penetrated the manganese, which on the other from there no one needs to win. well, what the hell are you

watching with him, vladimirovich, you conclude, describing really this, including a paradoxical surrealistic situation, that they really sit there themselves. well, you said an interesting phrase. you said that if anything, attention should be drawn to this, because if draw attention to this, well, like, i mean serious. uh, it means powerful people, then maybe they are so insolently shelling and will not. and i immediately thought at that moment, they are not the other way around , we are dealing with people who have an altered consciousness, that attracting the attention of the world already and the un and everyone else to this is not this or a reason for what they are even more interested in will become. this is a brazen shelling. we are dealing with an altered consciousness with an altered logic. no, i'm everything. i still. i hope you don't know to such a degree, then they can pguter that, of course, fuck now in odessa or wherever they go and say that this is russia, but still , to such an extent, they have not stooped, because there is still, you know, someone the one who beats them on

the hands from time to time. well, everything is less willing, but it still hits sometimes, and this is actually one of the most interesting questions. if someone who beats in the hands, or, uh, only directs them with these hands, and the question is that they can fuck and hit the font, that he is not at all like that funny and even, that's why our people talk so carefully about the beginning of september, because in order to do it all the same. i went there from the iaea. it is necessary to somehow make sure that u means, uh, the bow of the ukrainian formation. in the same place, they don’t fire at something and don’t write to us, but here is an interesting question about the influence. look at this small moment, but nevertheless, starting from august 5 and until august 16, all the rhetoric of the ukrainian side was that we were shelling ourselves at the zaporozhye nuclear power plant and they were doing the main emphasis on it. well yesterday. when i arrived there, when erdogan also arrived there, who, according to

some, brought some, well, so to speak , proposals for reflection, at least a little, but zelensky’s rhetoric has changed since zelensky said, that’s what, well, with sound we wanted to give it with sound. it didn't work out. we have everything that russia must immediately withdraw its troops from the fifth object and stop shelling from a nuclear power plant in southern ukraine . you see, that is not to say, we are not shelling. npp and we fired from it is the minimum minimum nuance, but nonetheless. so, after all, someone is hitting them on the hands or can someone hit them on the hands, but we are some kind of negotiations there, so we hope, or is this the situation that they rule themselves? well, of course, they obviously get hit on the hands, because ukraine is not an independent country, our country today. it is all in debt and it is obvious that

it is highly dependent on international financial institutions, so we are not talking about independence here, i have to. ah. in fact, ukraine has quite difficult situation, because by and large she has no allies. she has fans. yes, that's right. quite right and accordingly, the kiev regime is now trying to get the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant for it - this is the last opportunity, the last window. quite rightly diminishing in the sport is called organizing an attack on the opponent's goal. you can say so, yes, involve make turn the fans into your allies, that is, involve, uh, the international institutions of nato, the european union , and so on, into this conflict, otherwise the end of everything known. that is, this is actually the last opportunity for such a knight's move, an attempt to make a knight's move . i hope they won't let him do this. that is, that is, you are talking about the fact that in fact they are not particularly controlled and not particularly

restrained in this situation. and as they say, guys, well, you look. you claim to be violent. well , here's what you can, how violent you are absolutely right, and my conviction is that, after all, the kiev regime has not yet completely gone crazy and is not interested in blowing up nuclear power plants but to catch up with the fear of horror is this, that is, to create some kind of incidents next to a little scare the international community. it's true. it's in his spirit. that is, fear and horror to catch up with, as it were , potential of their own, who, in their opinion, are not completely. quite right, because in fact, if the radioactive cloud goes, it’s not only ukraine and russia, it’s moldova, it’s romania, it’s bulgaria, it’s even turkey and even greece and macedonia plus it’s the dnieper and the black sea. yes, our defense ministry did you talk about it all yesterday? well that is what you describe this logic. e, hold me three, otherwise i can not vouch for myself. yes, yes, you can say that, and then the question arises. if here

hold me three, and then i can not vouch for myself, but among potential sovereigns. well, there, whoever is gutyrish does not pull, stoltenberg so-so, and all these wonderful ursulas, wunderlying on and so on and so forth, are also not very about americans. we don't understand what the mechanisms are. well, not exactly control, but at least resolving this situation so inflicting on the enemy it is unacceptable for him to strike others with death. we are with you we have been with you now for 8 1/2 years, we look like whose children come to the zoo and start talking dogs with monkeys with tigers, uh with insects, if their tomorrow there is such a problem. the fact that in 8.5 years the smallest child grows up and understands that it is not necessary to talk with a monkey. well, if you want, you can even throw bananas breaking the rules, talking to her to no avail does not understand the conversation that the

monkey understands. power outage, i'm weird this i say, just a blackout, i don’t understand at all. i'm talking about ukrainian just i'm talking about ukrainian fascists. you know what's the matter, it's very strange to say this, but i agree with the baltic authorities. yes, i agree with their crazy rhetoric, which screams that russia should stop supporting international support for terrorism . you must stop supporting zelensky's terrorist regime because we provide uninterrupted power supply to terrorists who are trying to arrange a nuclear catastrophe. by the way, uh, actually for me this is also an amazing moment. i don’t understand much, in these mechanisms, perhaps it’s necessary that way, after all, and the armed formations of ukraine are shelling a nuclear power plant, accusing us of creating a danger to everyone, which feeds them with electricity, including themselves in the first place. you understand, the liberated part of zaporozhye does

not need to be turned off, yes, therefore, a completely attracted power plant is only as a last resort, when the energy transition is made from the territory of russia and the occupied part in which article we continue fix good done this then it turns out, which means they get this electricity themselves. they themselves hammer on this station, they all try to increase them, and then in your picture it turns out that here is a monkey, which is from an aviary. so the monkey starts to rush. it loves with nu corresponding to its substances. and how would we approach her in suits and jackets with all kinds of badges. well, let's discuss it anyway. no, we spoke. well, you think, why would yours still have some guards, lower the curtain, and that's it. she can't throw anything further. look at this map. here , please, look at the gray area of ​​defeat. she closes transnistria. this is another real danger for those people who are there in the western hall of the garage of the russian

federation. the last one i just want to say, sorry. saying goodbye to the decision-making center of today's world, they are not in america, but in london, but in london, so here we are in the kaliningrad region, i'm just used to scolding our bosses, but here i can't no, do not say daggers three three sets of daggers. i'm just interested to see. it will be the mi5 building, as in a james bond movie it will be london bridge or mintsevsky, you know , londoners wake up in the morning, but there is no bridge. yes, our conspiracy theorists will be on the other side. some conspiracy theorists argue that the queen of england has long since died, but it may be worth putting an end to this discussion so that no one has any traces of legend. let's do this, and since we all understand, and i think that no one argues with this, that all these dances around the nuclear power plant, they, among many other things, are inextricably linked with what is happening,

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that we are firing at her from there. ah, many, many, many other things do not. and now there is such a feeling, you know, how the country is a country of liars. uh, gianni rodari where the cat was called dogs. and ink with milk, and so on and so forth, there is a feeling of some kind of sulfur. and if you discuss this sur, well, so to speak, without interruption from what is happening in real life, then it seems that this is really just some kind of thing . well, that is, here is the growth of this lie of these fakes of this madness, what is it? well, just some kind of nuthouse really, as soon as you look at the map of hostilities. you understand that all this has very specific reasons, and uh, these reasons are called the situation at the front, and for which they have been pumping up the promise of an offensive on kherson for a long time, which did not take place and, as many people think, is unlikely to take place, and in general everything that will happen in this plane, surah largely depends on what is happening and will happen on earth alexander beard, and she

curled up from there yesterday, please listen to you carefully. well, it so happened that i had to drive back to the village along the entire front line and back. yes, i really dragged on this one for a long time, in fact. yes, the number of units of the union of volunteers of donbass is growing and growing, respectively, geography used to be mostly raisin. and now the kazyum has not yet been added, respectively, zaporizhzhia, north of takmak, a detachment is working for us, respectively, khersonin has been added. but in the area of ​​\u200b\u200bnovaya kakhovka he works in a battalion, i must say hard work. well, the nikolaev region has already gone akin, the russian spit is a historical place, by the way, to say where alexander vasilyevich suvorov won a convincing victory over the turkish troops uh-huh russian alcohol alexander vasilyevich suvorov who liberated this territory aside was ukraine magical yes, simply because ukraine as a subject, as state where existed, right? or the word is, in general, was a

polish term. and i designated it with my own term. ukraine denoted, in fact, their eastern possessions of the outskirts. this is the famous polish song and zakol. everyone is probably well-known beautiful, by the way, there is a good uh-huh. here, so to speak, their heart aches for ukraine along the polish way, otherwise yes, they got them against us against the russian empire, if you remember under the slogan. give us back our halov, that is to say, slaves. in simplicity of mind. the poles' hearts still hurt a lot about the ukrainian colds, which they want to get back, so in kherson they are already climbing instead of their suckers, the colonies are already somehow sagging morally and physically, therefore accounted for by the polish unit. e units, in what form? in what form and how far and on their heads they climb, and so the ordinary polish infantry is already marching. the infantry seems to be disguised as a chvknu, they say that the polish special forces of the thunder are directly working, and

there is convincing evidence of this that can be voiced or there are documents. there are documents. they don't get there or what, yes polyakov us not fish brothers, right? yeah, such is the story of the lord, they fought for 2 days, then they moved out and gave way to the nazis, and the nazis already, then gave way to the vushniks. well, the dryers, respectively, fell off very quickly. when you say that, uh, the offensive is announced, and it actually happened. we just didn't notice here. yes, well, it already was. at least, it was in the kherson area, well, really. they crossed into the forest there, went forward. the battles were just such a near, the nature of the distance. 20 50 m, that is, they were cut directly into a straight line, quite a serious unique case, we had one fighter

destroy a hand grenade there, which, in principle, in modern combat, of course, is almost impossible, but the ukrainian tankers fled into the hatch, he just threw a grenade into the tank, the abandoned crew yes, no , well, they broke the dates, uh, they destroyed it, and so they are like you, you say, they sat down as a result of this offensive. to be honest, they really went for a walk, they managed to do it at some point, transfer a couple of villages to the gray zone, such as andreevka right there in i am grateful to the kakhovsky district. yes, indeed, it was like that, the battles really were of a heavy, fierce character. i don’t know our losses there, frankly, i only know for my battalion 29 killed 86 equal in 12 days of fierce fighting. that's a lot, i'll tell you very little. this is very little. well, all all who remained are presented with a state award. the whole decision of the army commander. wow, that's the story. and so, yes, there were fights and serious fights, but now, in

general, the situation is stable, and so is our defense actively. i just can't speak any further. yes, so to speak, so worry. in my opinion , it is not necessary for the kherson region. it's just that our opponent is engaged in total disinformation, because on all ukrainian sites. and when you arrive kherson ukrainian internet starts to work can you look? what do they write about? well, they write that the street is afraid. are they, they've already borrowed millions. well, i ran out of rockets there again, yes, everything is over with us. we're running, we're just running like crazy, they're already running . kherson was also occupied with poplars. they were not occupied; it is not clear why they were not occupied at the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant. yes, because melitopol is significant. well, apparently, yes, there is some kind of cunning intrigue. so, in fact, we are still slowly slowly, but we are advancing , our offensive is going primarily on e, the territory of the zaporozhye region. we are just here from the tokmak in the north, we are slowly advancing quite

successfully more. sorry, i can’t say and the offensive is on the territory of the donetsk people’s republic in the past we are talking about solidarity and glebar. there, the north is south, roughly speaking, this offensive for the coal was caught on until they took the solidarity, they seem to have entered, but this is news, the truth is literally today. and, when i was in those places, not yet entered the hard question is no, because really. modern, primarily artillery systems, give us a lot of anxiety and it is expected that already heavy systems against air defense, that is, with air defense, will appear at the front, and this, of course, will not be very pleasant, because aviation quite efficient. i myself was convinced of this, so to speak, it works well, but, unfortunately, the air defense system can interfere with this somewhat, and the most problematic section of the front. in my opinion. for us still. this is the izyum section where the front is standing

there the front is standing. and unfortunately , the enemy artillery is very active, so many air defense units are changing. we have to constantly deploy. yes, yes, many parts of the units are constantly changing, because the former ones are being destroyed. that is, i just wanted to clarify this when you say that there is in the izyum direction of the front, the front is standing still , not precisely because we are not moving forward. because they don't let you move forward. and in general, they hold quite tightly and do not stick yet. they are holding tight , moreover, they are preparing a counteroffensive there. well, i will not again voice the dates. although they are more or less known. so this counteroffensive can be expected there, at least based on the fact that during this time i remind you, they were mobilized, four waves. they still have cannon fodder. even if it's weak motivated, but still lacking. yes, they have left of what we consider to be professional soldiers. well, that is, those who were in the service before the start of the special military operation remained

really percent. well, 10 is hardly more. they really have sergeants in command of the company, sergeants are ordinary ones who were before the sfo, about them they already occupy officer positions, and they are often small, but nevertheless, cannon fodder itself in the mass. it is present, especially since there are practically no other ways to make money among the modern population of ukraine, therefore we are simply forced to go to the male part of the population, to feed the family, respectively, there is enough cannon fodder. they formed six new brigades with nato weapons, fully armed 100%. where these six brigades will appear absolutely exactly. i don't know, but we're obviously quite expecting. well, we see, then the rotation, of course, it refers to the fire defeat of the often castling units. just foolishness, as it were, they don’t reach the front. yeah, it happens, but i must say that perseverance. ruler more precisely, they are not going to occupy modern ukraine with a guilei, that is, they are going, apparently, to spend the entire

population of the people that they have at their disposal to the last person. actually, apparently, this is the strategic goal of the united states, and in our country many western politicians say that the planet is resettled, overpopulated. so they apparently decided that, first of all, it is necessary to achieve a reduction in the population, and belarus must be successfully said with our help, in some way they are somehow not sadly reducing this population. throw it at us. a it says that well, if we have, uh, there everything is quite complicated, and uh, everything is there, uh, let's just say i am why i ask you about it in detail, because i know that you are, well, like a person who regularly visits there and a person who is regularly forced to look into the eyes of those who may die tomorrow, and then m.a. you are the last person who will say some things, everything is fine with us. we will pray for everyone there, and so on and so forth,

this is a very realistic look at things that relate to what we discussed about the zaporozhye this is the station, as if from here from moscow they say so, we’ll wave our saber there, we’ll wave our saber there now, we’ll cut it off there. we will cut it off there, then, yes, and, as it were, we wave and wave well, and nevertheless. and that means it's all for the long haul. and the question is that for a long time it depends, that's what, huh? here sergey ryabkov, deputy minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation, said a phrase that for me says that, in general, where we are now. this is not even an extreme level yet, you oppose all the time saying that well, we understand. we do not oppose ukraine, and it is not us, and more precisely, it is not us that it opposes us , others oppose us. but it turns out there are many more levels. here are the levels. and what they might be. let's talk now. this is important, and it depends on what will happen there, please. we don't want

an escalation, we want to avoid a situation where the us becomes a party to the conflict, but so far we do not see a willingness from that side to take these warnings really deeply and seriously more the deep involvement of the united states in what is happening in ukraine in terms of countering our special military operation, in fact, puts this country on the brink of turning the united states into a conflict. and this is where my question arises. i understand perfectly well that these are diplomats of such a level as sergei ryabkov. they, well, if they say something, then this, then this. well, some serious significant things that somehow change the angle of view on what is happening or what will probably happen, but still i want to understand, changes, as a matter of fact, a facet of turning the usa into the side of the conflict. and where is it, that is, now they are not a party to the conflict, but a certain line will be transferred, and they will become a party to the conflict, and i wonder, and many viewers are in favor of that. well, so

what? here, what can change after they cross this line from our point of view and become a party to the conflict, or something depends on it. i want to say here that i saw his entire statement, so to speak in context. he answered the question about the article. here in this one in politics, uh, which is widely recognized. here is the fact that the americans are using, well, they are leading the khaimash and then good for ukraine to strike at russian territory, a fairly commonplace. uh. here and here, respectively, he said that it would really mean crossing the line, what is behind this? i don't want to, of course. as a deputy of the state duma, to call for a missile strike there. here uh, hint good hint state blows. i thought i stated the possibilities, this is a hint. here, uh, so, uh, striking in the london of america and the

pentagon, but you know, when we say that the american satellites are in charge of these hymers, we say, and they do not hide it, and they have not hidden it lately. more and more often. they confirm this, now, i think it's time to declare, at least that in this case we consider the satellites hmm uh a legitimate target for, to put it mildly. yes, the deputies of the state duma do not interfere with the work of these same satellites. i , you know, served in the soviet army in rocket and space defense. eh, that was the last millennium. so i think that i can already give me secrets to give to her. but what do you know then, he was signed to demobilize you for 10 years, everything was hello, come on. well, i post everything. everything, so we then already had the opportunity to create , let's say. so softly such interference. now i'm sure for these there, uh, a third of a century that has passed. well, we have

a lot more of these capabilities. and that's when we really understand that these satellites are aimed at our soldiers. not just targeted, but really apply to the manpower of the russian army, then i believe that we have all legal grounds for, uh, well, at least. i do not let them work, to put it mildly, again. so, i think that this line is meant, for but, but look, they crossed this line a long time ago, i remember, we, in my opinion, discussed in april that they openly said that they supply ukraine with all the intelligence information that information. yes, but here. i 'm already talking in fact for the blows. uh, for drawing blows use you what question and acting in your proposed logic formulated more accurately, but nevertheless, well, well, so, if we are talking about the line in the sense that here are the guys, well, if we cross this one.

more precisely, if you cross it, and for us you become a party to the conflict. we can start, for example, to shoot down your satellites, then we must understand that if we start to shoot down their satellites, then that they are. notice i did not use the word knock down consciousness. yes. excuse me. i honestly tell you. i am just remember how we do it, how we did it. this is at the time why i immediately apologize to our chinese partners, then they were not quite, but partners, but i am a simple sergeant. e, for sure, caused damage to the chinese space industry at that time by significant amounts. we didn't hit anything. you interfered, and here it’s something like this, which means that we begin to interfere with their satellites, but, at the same time, we must understand, speaking about certain facets, and confrontations, that they can respond to this, because then we should have an understanding our next departure. i understand that we are all with you. even those who at one time served in this industry do not possess, but all the technical information, but from a political point of view, yes.

so, firstly, let me remind you, otherwise we forget it all the time, that when, as it was explained to us, the americans directly approve all targets for the hummers, yes, this means that , including the united states of america, further the command to apply attacks on the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant to the fact that fukushima threatens, if you believe again, yes the second means why ryabkov now? why ryabkov spoke of the possibility of escalation is not only because you understand, probably, because the united states is not only a country of terrorists. sorry, this is also the state of a thief. a lot of money was stolen from us, and a thief, firstly, like a terrorist, he is convinced of his impunity, if he is not beaten on the hands, he will steal and kill further, like a thief and like terrorism, and on the other hand, a thief is very happy when he stole and everything is in order. but when they

start talking to him, dear. now flip please, here he starts to freak out, therefore, you need to do something first and show a real threat second. guys. we are doing this now in response to your aggression. and if you do not stop, then there will be the next stage, the next stage, such and such. i think yes, if the americans believe that there is not enough scrap metal on the territory of the former ukraine, then we can increase its volume, so to speak. or you can not increase due to their satellites. just silencing them. but, as if the final threat should be such a cancellation of all property in the united states of america and any firms affiliated with the united states of america о first of all, intellectual property in russia is pointless to refer to the mind, it is pointless to call conscience only to the pocket, only the wallet further. eh, you will probably object. in general, i heard these arguments, they will object to you that

in the case here. arrest or there all this own and so on the question arises, and their economic response will bring us more benefits or more time they have already used against us economic analogue of nuclear weapons that they no longer have the next levels. they have some next levels. here is the threat of confiscation of their property, excellent property, including intellectual property, which will automatically turn russia into a zone of free not only software, but engineering creativity. yeah, this is a threat that for them is absolute . this is an interesting posing of the question, because this is the story with the fact that well, you direct your, uh, artillery systems, uh, ukrainian armed forces through their satellites to ours. well, let's, in the end, remember the vietnam war, after all, when our fighters sat behind the vietnamese systemic air defense systems. the americans, of course, pointed their own

and, uh, the southern vietnamese army at them, and still it was, as it were, even at that time perceived as, well, not a direct clash. but as a proxy, and here is an option, and you are our pilots, our pilots flew, they shot down our pilots and ours, therefore, in general, we have already gone through all this, but here another question arises. and here is this option, yes, that we will really start to hammer, and on them, but here in your opinion. well, through or somewhere, he generally has some prospects. and, that is, we can through this e channel, and not canceling, as it is the creation of interference, their satellites through this e channel in some way. uh, something to achieve some damage to them. well, i think we can either way, it's better than, uh, a head-on collision or so to speak. such unbridled rhetoric, yes, that is,

when the masks are torn off and people are all called their own names. still, it seems to me that it’s better not to get to that, because at the moment. well, you know, because uh, no good in mine. well , in my opinion, there is nothing good in a direct collision, yes, not for anyone. in this case, you are now talking about a situation where everyone calls everything by its proper name. yes, it's worth it. uh, you know, maybe already and i suspect that this is even possible, sooner or later it will happen, given that america uh allows herself antics in taiwan america allowing herself days off count you yes, in my opinion. now is not the time. well, yes, because closer to us than ukraine, but you know , here's a direct collision. it seems to me that there is nothing

good in this, but in my opinion here is my conviction. yes, that is, you still have to try to the last. uh, find some solutions. it may be to make some move with the knight, yes, which describe the horse. here american michael offers here himself the property, excellent intellectual property. we must become absolutely invulnerable to their influence. and for this you need develop our industrial this is understandable, but mikhail it won't happen, not tomorrow, not the day after tomorrow, and so now. uh, the main thing is not to earn a horse income in 500 days. in my opinion. this is discord. uh, within the european union in the first place. yes, as such, that is. accordingly, see what's the matter. now, what's going on, because uh, the european union they don't have unity about further pressure on russia , that is, why not? yes, because everyone understands that winter is coming and other sanctions that protests are uh growing, uh, in european countries and so further, and the leader wants to sit there to stay in

power, respectively, if, uh, if, uh, russia somewhere, according to the west, crosses the red line, yes, that is, for example, use some kind of chemical biological there or god forbid nuclear weapons were already accused then of chemical weapons, then they will rally, and they will have conditionally speaking, that is, we should not do anything so that they do not rally. i believe we are first. should not provoke uh, instruct to exist and then not exactly about it. i say and you and me i'm talking about, uh, a calculated uh move. yes, but about the fact that, uh, this direct collision became an extreme measure, when without it it is already impossible to go anywhere. i understand, now let's continue the conversation. i just want to say as a small remark that it seems to me that just the internal alignment in the european union is a very useful and joyful side effect of this confrontation for the americans and the british. that is, by strengthening the internal discharge in the european union, we do

not inflict any damage on them, we only do what they also think of as a side effect. very much ok, but let's continue now. the most extreme needs for the sake of all of you i sold you into slavery. i saw the butcher brought. you get meat every day the best wines on the 85th anniversary of andrei konchalovsky, the premiere tomorrow on the first program

time will tell, we continue to work live, which is interesting, that one way or another, these are the conversations, arguments, reasoning and reflection that we have now had with you. but how far, how quickly and to what extent do we need to reach some next facet of confrontation, and there even at the level of rhetoric announce their united states from the side of the conflict, in general, how deeply to get involved in this, where it may not be in a hurry to get involved is the most surprising thing, that, uh, more precisely, not surprising. it is natural that there, apparently, the same reflections, reasoning, conversations, and so on are also going on. but for me, this is a manifestation, for example. uh, a publication in the forinfers publication, which some people think. i cannot claim it. in some sense of the word, it is. well, not just a mouthpiece, well, such a branch of the state department, but the united states in any it is very interesting to listen to what they write, please. the us intervention scenario could come true if the ukrainian army starts

to fall apart russia wins a major victory in this case, the united states could try to turn the tide directly by intervening in the fighting. ukraine may launch large-scale attacks on russian cities and towns. i hope that such an escalation will provoke a massive russian response that will finally force the united states to join the fighting , the final scenario of the american interference will entail an unintended escalation. himself, unwillingly, washington will be drawn into the war due to an unforeseen event that will begin to develop incrementally, i will leave it out of the picture. there are some ears of the state department in this or not, there are no worse than the state department in this. nevertheless, it is quite interesting that, on the one hand, it begins to argue about the scenario of our intervention. he's so not real. and then so at the end, but generally it is not necessary. and how do you assess this prospect, by the way, from the point of view of and here are the possibilities of their real participation in

hostilities, especially when it is quite real and quite serious. quite to itself all to it also goes. by the way, i want to say that i always have an analogy with the first world war. then, too, no one was going to seriously fight because of some franz ferdin because of some kind of serbia ultimatums. everyone was furnishing with diplomatic notes, everyone said, no need, no need, everything will be quiet. well, except perhaps that in germany which was ready. yep, germany was ready, everyone else was not. australia say no too, and the result is a war. still, it started. here we are moving, only more slowly in the case everything is about, because of the same scenario, we need to understand just inside ourselves that there will be no return. we 've got a part of our establishment, anyway , she always hopes that something like this will happen that will give us the opportunity to go. to some agreements, well, they won’t let us make any agreements, and we must already tell the truth, finally learn at least ourselves

to ourselves, because something that all the time we hope that we will leave some default figures. and somehow we will behave in ourselves too divisively. this is what puts us in a vulnerable position and under a shock position, this only makes it worse for us. we must understand that a total war has been declared against us, and we also need to introduce, on our part, absolutely adequately and stop playing delicate and leaving masks. that's all the masks are now actually torn off and you just need to finally look with a sober look at your real real enemy. because if we do not do this, it will only make things worse for us, and seriously worse, including the time. frankly speaking, to transfer our industry to a military footing. this is long overdue. do you think it is still no yet no far from lethalization of the industry. this is the magnitude of our industry is still de-metalized, although

militarize it. in principle, it is possible, because the advice is that those backlogs that remained of the soviet era, they have been preserved, you know, and the first departments in production. somewhere else too while there is, and you understand that crown factories very simply begin, uh, to be reorganized into line cartridges. this is so, for example, actually a lot of things can be rebuilt. we are unmetalized yet. the enemy is completely militarized and will continue to poly-electrify, and behind him there is a huge one in particular. you are the best resources that he will use western of course. yeah, for now, that resource, which, by the way, pushes their economy forward, because the united states. if you remember, climbed up economically, the rest the subject of politics is precisely at the work of their vc that during the first world war, when they entered, but the latter were already at the very end. yes, when everyone else had already shed blood on everything and the same thing happened during the second world war, when they all, including us, were supplied by fox criminals, the eighties

russian federations of the zero should have remained. yes, absolutely right. we stopped paying for world war ii supplies , and world war ii in the 2000s at twenty-first fair distance stopped having fixed the payments, that it was paid for with the blood of a soviet soldier, brezhnev already paid a piece, and there is no talk of gorbachev at all, but the transfer of the economy to a war footing is not, first of all, the re-equipment of pasta and pencil factories. this is about, first of all, a reduction and restraints so that military plants can work for themselves, and not for a banker and a metal oligarch. yes, respectively, the form of ownership at least time. naturally boys who are just noble factories they own and sit at the same time in london. yes, they are. well , firstly, all offshore companies must be either

confiscated as ownerless property or re-registered. here, this is the first, the second costs should be reduced due to the fact that the industries that produce the base industries, all enterprises of the basic industries should be changed, which are nationalized, as the british did after the second world war after the second world war, england was in ruins and not at all. was bankrupt, after 5 years england stood and was cheerful confident. why did they nationalize gently culturally neatly, not like in 18, we, and not nationalized the basic industries, reduced costs and everything flourished due to this, and we still can’t even make credit available even and no one even dares to hint about it. a. well, look, when these conversations come, what is it really, uh, i don’t know, there are a lot of people or someone, but it’s completely obvious that there are still some expectations, that it can somehow do everything here it will resolve and return to normal , if something somewhere is a funny moment, general.

many of us expect winter that we have roughly cut off the economy now, and ukraine, first of all, the economy of the black sea ports, in fact, they are not working now odessa near nikolaev, god forbid we are in the near future. uh, russian banners will explode over odessa. knock there. yeah, yes, closer to the tree, yes, yes the most wooden part at the moment is so very i hope so, and everyone hopes that many hope that in ukraine there will simply be a complete economic collapse that will force us to negotiate. yes, i have concerns about this. about, yes, there is already a collapse there indeed. it exists, but we know what happened in the winter of 14-15. we also expected the same, frankly speaking, yes, in the winter of 14-15, but we didn’t agree, it didn’t happen, they were pumped up with money, weapons and organizational capabilities. and i'm afraid that this winter will be exactly the same. yes, it will be very bad in europe. it's pretty obvious. but the united states will

continue to pump up pain in one way or another, and in fact, and in fact, these two circumstances. and here are the ones that alexander has now brought in, and those that alexander and mikhail said that after all, this is an idea, that in the first place, what if everything somehow resolves, because they also have doubts there. is it worth it for them to get involved, what if they don’t fit in, and if they still don’t fit in, and in winter ukraine will crack and europe will crack and everyone will crawl and sit at the table with us, husband, as if nothing will happen. let's have a little more patience. this one. i think those who say let's get nowhere just yet climb up. they are like that, look, i , of course, uh, i agree, there will be no return to the previous relationship for the next few years, or even decades, or even never u need to have this illusion about this, and at the same time, the idea is close to me about what needs to be done maxi

diplomatic efforts, to avoid an outright world nuclear war, as far as possible? why is no one arguing? well, well, we heard a lot now and such shandars are heard, we are not nuclear bombs on them. why do i need to understand that you really want children lived and grandchildren to babysit. well, i really want to, well, they just have to understand what in the west, by the way, many no longer understand that a global nuclear war will lead to the mutual destruction of everyone. now, thank god , publications on this topic again began to appear in the west now, because they actually spent a lot of resources on convincing the public that a nuclear war was not so terrible, that it was all fiction kgb brilliant operation, carried out in the seventies, when they came up with nuclear winter and etc. well, now, thank god, they again began to talk about it and publish it, but about this e idea about the fact that we should not enter into direct conflict with them. after all, we must understand

what the united states is doing now with the hands of ukrainians, of course , they are constantly probing these red lines , remember, yes, well, a little over a year ago. actually, at the beginning of hmm last year, we were told that, yes, we began to supply javelins to ukraine, uh. even though we said it's a red line, then mind you, but they won't be in conflict zone. they will be in the west of the november range. will never appear. there in the past. in summer. they calmly notice long before the special operation. they have already begun to be used in the donbass well, as things unfold, we see that we will put highmorses, but we will prohibit hitting the territory of russia and crimea is russia well, we don’t know, yes, now they are already crimea ukraine so you can hit. tomorrow, of course , i will say that it is possible there in russia, after all. we need rockets for 300 km. no. well, as long as we don't want to such an aggravation, or there airplanes yes, no, well, it will be a direct collision. no, it's clear

that they are waiting for us to show that, in addition to talking about a strike, a possible strike on the decision-making center, some real retaliatory actions will begin. and here we must understand that the further we hope for diplomatic negotiations. uh, these red lines are gradually moving away, moving further away, that is, in any case, we must undertake something to do in practice, not on uh, not at the negotiating table, but on practice so that they understand, here is a really direct clash, therefore, of course, diplomacy of diplomacy, but this is a probing. uh, the patience of the russian federation must eventually be stopped, so that it really becomes clear that all this has nowhere to retreat, by the way, it’s very curious, while we were discussing here counter us, so as not to counter us, so that today the editorial article of the magazine behind icons with just a brilliant edit.

they counted the magazine for an icon, there are couch experts on equity. no, it is not necessary now ukraine to start counter offensive. here we do not record the earth. the earth hasn't frozen yet. and most importantly, most importantly, and we ask the western, which means the masters of ukraine yes, while maintaining this composure in kherson, do not rush ukraine, next year it is necessary to launch a counteroffensive due to, among other things, general frost , general winter, but and so on. here, notice they are sitting. there they make up strategies in the journal of the conor make up strategies. how to fight russia when you can attack and when you can’t, as you can see, they are ready to fight for many, many years, they ready for the next year and then for years in the fourteenth year. i said that the guys are the only place where there will be money in ukraine. this will be the army. this will lead not to weakening, but to strengthening the ukrainian army. now we see it like

this. if this winter, next spring , the only, if the only place where there will be bread in ukraine will be the army, this will lead not to weakening, but to strengthening the ukrainian army of a colleague. let's not forget this, of course, and our policy should be very simple. here look, the liberated part of ukraine. there is work here. and you only have death electricity should be only in the liberated part of ukraine in the occupied part of ukraine electricity should not be television. i understand that popularity is declining, but still, on television here, and television should be only in the liberated part of ukraine, first of all, it ’s something that is declining, when i say, including in this studio, that the preservation of ukrainian television in the occupied territory is crimes are not answered. come on. don't turn. what is the meaning of it, and so on and so on and so on, it’s clear well no, yanin

is russian they say, it’s hard to argue with that, it really is, yes, and moreover, i agree with my colleague that at some point it’s necessary you need to hit the horns unconditionally, then click on the nose so that people understand what kind of moment it is at this very moment, let's say. yes, guys. everything, yes, the main thing is to calculate the consequences. well, as for the general of winter and so on, yes, and in general i don’t know about the involvement of europe, i have a feeling that europe does not want war. here is my feeling. again, this can be seen in 1914, alexander also said he did not want everything to be like that. well, again, yes, that is, this is all external support, a handshake, the arrival of visits to zelensky and so on, that’s all, but you understand some ritual actions, that is, financial support from the european part is declining, but the united states is really on it, but the united states is overseas and they are used to fighting by proxy, no one is something. well there, what kind of

the difference is that the first war, which is the second by and large ? yes, now here is the third one, which means that it was the way it was, yes, so i don’t know, i have a feeling that we need to take some sort of verified action, and hopefully. well, not what he hopes, but to take some steps, uh, which uh, after all, common sense. well, it's been exactly 85 years . this is a very difficult question indeed. in absolutely right. yes, we had time to think, but we have time to think, now we will have a little more, because all the time before each action you need to leave yourself a little time for a pillow. program time will tell we continue to work on the air it's funny that when we wonder. and that's why we would seem. well, one way or another, it would seem logical steps, we don’t take or we don’t do it right away or we delay more. what would it cost

if they were adopted? the fact is that i think that when it comes to such a, well, global confrontation, and when both sides of this global confrontation. it is still within the framework of the capitalist system, where profit, and is considered a measure of effectiveness, and everything else then both sides are in this situation. well , look in america, partly the same suffering. there, of course, there are forces that are within the framework of their ideology and their ideas. many of them. i am sure that people in this game do not believe that russia can and should be declared a sponsor of terrorism. i wonder the motivation, why it turns out they do this, maybe not worth it yet, yet, but not worth it, please. state department, cautiously makes clear to the us congress what it fears call russia a state sponsor of terrorism if there are fears that this will jeopardize a deal allowing grain ships to leave ukrainian ports, it took months to work out this agreement,

moreover, the country on the blacklist of terrorists among such countries is north korea syria kubo and iran suffers from comprehensive sanctions, and this means that the united states is actually cutting off americans from participating in business relations in these countries, you know, that is, in fact, in a sense, although it will sound strange, but in a certain sense sense, perhaps, one of the fuses, that as long as the parties still continue, well, as if in an ideological dispute and confrontation, while talking. no, okay, well, after all, if we do this, we'll lose money, well, don't go there, it's me now, finally, understand? why wise? well, this is such a surname, but wise, it means the deputy minister of justice of ukraine. and i quoted this one yesterday. i now understand, finally. why is she saying this? she says exactly the same thing. which, of course, russia would have had to declare everything long ago as well as a method of terrorism. and i'm like for well, we'll lose money, but as if money is more important, maybe it's a fuse, something like, and let's go here , let's do something, we won't do anything. we just lost ours. for us, it

should not be a grant. i remind you that ukraine was credited by russian business, almost all of which is where this money is, and not lost. they are lost as well as the money that is ours. actually the gold and foreign exchange reserves, which also remove the terrible sense of losing with the west for us nothing to lose. we are not for grandmothers. we are for the country and more, but for the time being they sewed up money for their sleep, lobbied for their interests. yes, even more interesting. yes, they lose money, the current current day, but they are small, because the task is. they know very well that money brings power and the main source of money is power, so their strategic task is to destroy us without any illusions, firstly, in order to take away our natural resources and secondly, if they destroy us and will take control of our natural

resources. they are guaranteed to kneel. china and india, and then they will be very good with money. that's what we see here, this toxic versus strategic consideration that always loses. if these considerations worked, they would steal money from us from outside. and by the way, i also wanted to steal from you taking the opportunity. an interesting version that one of the experts here at the studio voiced to me the other day, which turns out to be, and back in 2016, the mc company conducted a certain cost audit ukrainian infrastructure. it would seem that. why in the sixteenth year? well, the very infrastructure that is now slowly ceasing, as it were, to exist. how do you rate? here. well, the idea that in general this whole war that should go. they also need more, purely from a commercial point of view. well, firstly, this is causing damage to us, because we have to restore part of it, and

secondly, this is providing a market for american engineering firms. yeah, because it's a market. yes, the turks claim a significant part of the work, but all industrialization, at least in russia in our country. they were carried out with a very large participation of american engineering firms in the world no one will have money , but industrialization will feed them. this is a strategic task. that is why it is necessary to grind all of ukraine into fine powder. so that no one gets it, because if then life starts up there again, then the americans will earn money on it, what do you mean by grinding into a fine powder, grinding in a state of complete the destruction of the infrastructure of buildings, well, the scorched earth that they are trying to use in the donbass is the nazi tactical population. they have already achieved to a very serious degree, to be honest, our opponent. forgive god, this is hitler's

tactics and hitler used her desperation, but for american business. it was the preparation of the front work. it is understandably interesting that there is one more moment that , within the framework of this confrontation, including from that very europe about which we spoke, does not give me rest after all. i don't fully understand, but they this confrontation who they consider us to be. but don’t come, right there, well, when they come, there for all sorts of forms, they don’t count, which until now nothing is necessarily about the americans. i'm even talking about well, look, uh, a man is. uh, who is he there to beat the speaker, in my opinion, uh, the bundestag of the german parliament. listen to what a brilliant idea he expresses out loud, cubes his last name, well, in a good way. here, just listen, this is a brilliant idea and imagine saying it out loud. who should he consider us to be, please. we must launch

nord stream 2 as soon as possible to fill our gas storage for the winter. there is no good reason not to open it. improving gas supply should be a top priority for the federal government. it is for this reason that the operation of other russian pipelines does not stop. but as soon as germany manages to fill all the nord stream 2 gas storage tanks. will be closed again. you know what i'm saying, it's just considered. it's just that it's not even that there is something in response awakened there kuleba about the fact that every time as a drug addict. eh, if you want, it means one more time and jump off, what you want to say to kuleba, you understand kuleba, when, as it were, to jump off one drug , as if to you, but it's not about this sieve to me, that is, a man, here. that is, he says, let's get russians. and let's deceive the russians, because because, maybe

it will work out, but listen, he has somewhere in my head from somewhere came the idea that it might work. we supply him with punishment. we pay for the terrorists in ukraine. good lord, what a great idea. well, yes, uh, let it be with this sauce. let's deceive the russians and open nord stream 2, and then we'll close it. well, we just open, then we quietly. now let’s talk about nord stream alone, we won’t open it later, in any case, if you want, we’ll say it quietly to each other. and who should return whom first about this ? you wanted to ask, what could it be? a subtle attempt to deceive us americans, a subtle attempt to deceive their democratic liberal crowd, including explaining to ukraine what they want, but really german business is dreaming. to open the nord stream two. do not forget the participants in this nord stream, the

germans, such as the same german business, if it deceives anyone, then they will eventually, but you know, when they talk about why this is all for the west of america, of course, they are not interested in ukraine . absolutely. i don't doubt it. and not even their market is the one that has already narrowed to the point of impossibility, of course, they are fighting against russia and of course, they are ready to use ukraine as a resource for as long as it takes to completely destroy it, that it joyfully provides itself in this capacity, we want to at all, then what will happen to this ukraine with this ukrainian fields. and you know, when i hear an argument that, well, a congressman is actually now voicing, but listen to the fact that the grain deal will fail, listen, well, these are two great. let it break, even if you believe from 20 million tons, which in odessa at least everyone has already forgotten everything, but this is such a trifle such a penny. but nevertheless , you know, they understand perfectly well that in the

state department, at least, what is a permanent member of the un security council a sponsor of terrorism. what will happen to the decisions? and they, on the basis of ideas, can't even discuss with us the most, well, all resolutions, that is , that's the point. they understand perfectly well what russia is in this system of relations between the world economy. they are already our three presidents. they say their economy economy is torn to shreds remember biden. yes, he said speaking in warsaw when the special operation had just begun, everything was a ruble. uh dollar, 200 rubles each. everything is torn apart in parilles, but, but understand, when they saw the consequences now, it turns out that they have wheat for gasoline, somewhere the voice of the world. just let me remind you that germany is also a state. thief. they also stole money from us, yes, and we supply gas like slaves. including through ukraine, paying for the killers,

they are all thieves, the principle by and large, they live on that, but i have been all my life all the ages, although to be robbed. be patient, but don't don't, as i say. continue to what, because in fact, they saw already convinced. even those who believed in what can be torn to shreds and forget how e no problem affects their property. and of course. then they are just the same, just this cube with the idea that let's open the valve, fill the storage, and then close it. i think that he has such an idea in his head, and then we will start to close, and the russians will say, you know, we are stuck, you see, well, no closes. and well, since today is friday and i still want to go out for the weekend with some slightly better mood. and in general, in any confrontation, without a sense of humor in a good sense of the word, it is impossible, especially since this is within the framework of our

conversation. here are some mutual confrontations of some kind of jokes, trolling, and so on and so forth, but you know these misadventures of the turbine of this our simensky siemens, which is now her there and then her here now. she means she has arrived. now she is with the germans siemens really does not know what to do with to do this. well, we must pay tribute to the germans , their sense of humor does not fail, they published a tweet. here is the content. our well-known turbine is still not where it should be, standing alone on our site in mulham. let's support the poor thing by creating a playlist for her. what songs will be there? we offer the song so lonely by the group police and you are so lonely so lonely. yes, but, but gazprom must pay tribute to the guys from gazprom heard. this one, by the way, is not clear, because that's who the germans are trolling - this is a big question. here gazprom is sensible and

tasty from the trolling of the germans. that's the way, please track. it's breaking the law breaking the law. here, well, there is a very interesting situation here, that gazprom is really trolling the germans, but the poor germans do not know, that is, they want to touch someone, because they are sick of all this with terrible force. yes, but they are, as it were, trolling somewhere. right there in space. well, god bless them. good luck. maybe somewhere from outer space they will hear them and let them go. or maybe not. information channel on the first continues its work time will tell. i am artyom sheinin. we have already talked more than once or twice, argued and discussed how it is possible to influence the end of support for the

ukrainian terrorist regime. and what is the motivation of those who do not stop it, and will some of our tougher actions affect this in terms of strikes at the decision-making center or the destruction of certain figures, but they argued , including recently here in this studio they argued. actually , in this situation. will it lead it's only to the fact that, well, now they gave 800 million. e, the americans. well, it’s not that the americans are what kind of force, in america which needs to keep this going, but it pushed through 800. well, it means well, if some experts say, well, well. here we are, as it were, under their rates, but they will not give in 1800, here, but there, one and a half billion and frightened at 800 million. some decision makers at one and a half billion will, as it were, break down. well, then there will be three and so on and so forth. so every time they can give them more money. well and how to slip, as in this case, the policy to carefully slip the following goals the following bars. the next options for raising rates, as

if on behalf of ukraine, in fact, on behalf of our opponents, please. it seems that the washingtons of the european capitals have agreed that kiev will decide how long to fight. and that no decisions will be made without the participation of ukraine and that kiev did not want to. the united states and europe will give it to him, but washington must act in the interests of the american people and not give such decisions at the mercy of foreign governments. washington must define the limits of its support and end goals. keith can invent any goals for himself, but america and europe are not obliged to support their appetites, it will grow that if tomorrow kiev announces plans to invade russia , annex st. petersburg and seize moscow to force putin to make peace. will washington and nato give money and weapons for such a plan ? for ukraine, it did not reach the frontline and disappeared from the site without

explanation, and the international eminence report on the use of a human shield by the ukrainian army offended kiev and the us allies and the allies should oppose it. accept ukrainian attempts to replace unpleasant facts with convenient fantasies. here i saw tan what did you want at the previous stage, how would you say that yes how much money do not give them, they will go to any, but nevertheless there is, right? come on, here it is. here, of course, is complete nonsense and distortion, because no zelibobuses have their own wishlist no kyiv has. these are all wishes of our esteemed british and american partners. naturally. and who has which of them wishlist and how they measure them with the state of affairs in their own countries. this is a completely different matter, but as a professional negotiator by virtue of the profession, i must say that the parties are deciding on what kind of decision-making centers there are bridges. there's something else there to hit. and what can it do in general, turn off the androids, what else can they, of course, measure

their resources, which are finite for each of the parties and the main task of any. conspirator - it is correct to predict. and what will happen if i do something, and how will the other side answer me and will i not calculate in my impudent manners? here's what will happen if, hypothetically, i turn off all of russia's android, what is the answer to kasperskaya, what is hypothetically, perhaps russia can answer, and maybe something will be dangerous for us for this. maybe we will be left without any neon there. maybe we will be left without any other series of earth metals. maybe they will stop supplying us with titanium. maybe some more if something happens, we will be left without an energy source, that is, each side calculates to the best of its ability to make correct calculations, and therefore, we can argue like this. and here, let's hit it there or let's turn it off, that's it, well, people are sitting,

calculating and quietly probing each other , and as you can see, they are probing deeper and deeper. and maybe really to the bridge. the water is being probed or even before something they don’t want, people immediately throw all their arguments into the furnace, turn something off and for some reason beat khaimar themselves or something else, and we're just in the process of the parties actually probing each other deeper and deeper. this is it. uh, the most important question, with all the importance of what is happening both at the front and in the economy and in this information confrontation, and so on, the most important question to which each of us is looking for answers for himself. we are collectively looking. as a matter of fact, at what stage is this balance of our miscalculation of them and their miscalculation of us and uh, this is the situation we are in of understanding how far we are all ready in this confrontation to enter and what we have and what we use or do not use now or for now, if we

talk about these notorious red lines, which it’s already a shame to remember, then kiev is for red or it is very far from them- and it seems to me, well, in general, this is how we behave extremely. be careful, if we talk about this military crisis, this is really a hybrid war, most of which takes place in the media space, but not from the point of view that the parties generate informational occasions that disperse, but simply believe that, well, here is the needle, which is in koshcheev's egg in the rear, will break the rear, won the rear, and you won the conflict, and actually these probings that tatyana said about, this, in fact, is an attempt in the hollow, as it were, or in the egg, where is there in the chest there, but interesting. and, if we do, this is what we will reach and or not reach, so exactly where they are reaching now. where do they go for us? and what, yes, they stretch into the depths of russia actually, as it were, these attacks on the belgorod bryansk regions in the crimea they have no military meaning. on in fact, they do not solve anything, but they

, in fact, are being taken out of full balance, and the citizens of the russian federation, who are generally relaxed. well, what do we have to worry about? already a special military operation. yes, on the outskirts. and everything is peaceful with us, but there are some difficulties, but we will overcome them, and they say, with these injections, no, you have nothing of your own. and now this is not yours at any moment, it can turn into a fire in a warehouse there, a blow to the airfield. do not give. lord there, what else to talk about, i don’t even want androids about which said today. but as for the red lines that we do not want to cross, this concerns precisely those moods that exist in the ukrainian rear, with which, in fact, we should also start working, that is, and the spirit of the ukrainian political people is high. many say that it is quite high. yes, they are not going to give up yet, and the terrible losses that the ukrainian army bears do not convince them of anything. well, i think it's a question. do they know about these losses, besides? everything else is also a big question. it seems to me that sergey is not one of them. by the way,

some time ago i finally did it for myself. understood? for a long time i could not understand why they are so reluctant to take their dead, who are already buried by the thousands and thousands and thousands. they don't want to pay. and secondly, while these people are buried. there are no funerals for them, there is no need to pay money, and it seems that they did not die. yes, yes, yes, they can decorate a lot of all military cemeteries around the cemetery, so far, there are not so many and they are so neat. they are these endless fields with birch crosses. but, if, for example, tomorrow three electric substations of the hero city of kiev or odessa burned down there, where people still go to the beach, and not go to the beach. well, they are the ones who are waging war so they don’t wage war, they come off on their own mines. i won't even comment on it. this, probably, would have made an impression on millions of people, not only on the inhabitants of kharkov or nikolaev, who yes , are under shelling there

. i am i think it’s not up to the beaches there anymore, and there, too, dneprokhan can also relax, but it’s logic. i'm fine. there. well, look, here, uh, in fact , this is a conversation about the fact that we have a mutual mutual probing going on. and here it is, uh, how would such a theoretical and semi-practical decent. here, if we and then they, that and here. uh, in fact, uh, when, in my opinion, they involve the zaporozhye station in all this and raise questions about the crimean bridge, and so on. they are still sorting out in the information space, like. well, what can be the answer now the question arises from your point of view. if we at least begin to raise this issue not only in the talk show studios, well, as it were, at a higher and more official level, indeed. i do not know about what it will be a plus for us. this will be our resource.

or you understand, we are too rational in general in this situation, just infinitely rational infinitely logically totalitarian sect, just like that sergei, uh, arguing that this blow is aimed deep. uh our country definitely right, but all their actions, they are exactly the same degree directed deep into, uh, their countries and deep into their political and financial establishment and these people. for them, this is a code for them, all these deaths, all these tragedies, all this pain, not counting the blood for them. in general, they still play big numbers. and until we artyom start to bring them pain. they will play them. they do not feel any rationality in this, and i will now recall the already

archaic, but historically inherited visit to pylose. to taiwan who won as a result won pelosi, who was inflexible, who gave a damn about all rational resources, and, at least in the short term, turned out to be the winner, so they will disrupt the zaporozhye nuclear power plant and try to blow up the crimean bridge, they will try to do everything without realizing it, without calculating the real consequences and stop them. maybe only our some kind of painful opposition is nothing else. but when you say you won uh, pilose or what in this situation? that's just painful counteraction. right here it is a separate question. what game did you win the pilose at? that is, given that she played chapaev, then, of course, she looks like her inner very selfish game, which, unfortunately, because of this, has an effect on and leads us all 30 of the world. here is the most

important moment. e you stressed that when we talk there about hurting. so that here they are, after all, we utter these phrases, we must do something to the ukrainian regime, so that they think, because this is a question of what we are this is nothing you are talking about. you think you rightly said that we assume that they are about as rational as we are and this construction works for them. approximately the same as our question is that when you are dealing with a sectarian, well, whoever came across, there are others who set goals in other ways, and when and when, based on your logic, you start working with him, he perceives it directly sometimes in the opposite way. and when we talk about some influences. we need to take this into account. we are here so here. i don't think that's how we are now, well, here 's what would hurt us, but the substation would hurt us. come on, let's burn a couple of posts with them, who knows? maybe they will arrange dances around these substations. they made a javelin hag,

a cult made an isheimers hag, a cult made from something else. and it’s with them how quickly it arises so quickly disappears, who now remembers who is nadya savchenko around whom everyone and ukraine danced for 2 years, you know what i’m talking about, it’s very complicated and not fully understood by us psychology is all the more difficult because we still think it, which means that they are about the same as we are, and they have not been about for a long time. and in general, they are not the same as we are those who fell under this cap, and we are dealing with this. so here a few points are important, firstly, and they are sectarians. yes, they are stubborn people. it is important for us not to turn into the same ones precisely so that we do not turn into the same ones we act. as you say, it is extremely rational that we do not hit civilian infrastructure, where we do not need it from a military point of view once, second. yes, they are sectarians, but ah, let's just say that in the leadership of ukraine there are not so stoned sectarians as not to appreciate. yes, they have interests about this

tatiana ska are sitting in the leadership of ukraine there, in general, another interest about this was said by one. there , roughly speaking, well, not 800 million, so one and a half irda, and that's it. they tell them that from these substations they, or something, they will have, and imagine, there will be nothing there, not even about substations, i say, they have like people with interests. i have always had a basic interest in life and a slightly less basic interest in money. and so, if they they will understand, that's what you're talking about, yes, act tough, yes, if they understand that their future lives depend on their actions in ukraine for which they receive money from the west, their own pockets to their accounts, which they may not save. this is what will affect them. you again lo and behold, see it someone resource today a group of german industrialists, turned to the end and said, do not kill the german industry. and that the trash will answer everyone. what are you doing im gone. you won't be rational that's right, because here is the quote that was quoted at the beginning of the broadcast. why are ukrainians inventing? these are such blissful fairy tales, crazy, and they

are indulged, because these are the same crazy. from a fairy tale, they are european, they are the same from ukraine, and together it is important for europe and the european leadership and ukraine to give birth to these victories, uh, yes, yours to give rise to victories so that europe explains to its own population. why do they keep doing it? great, we are talking about that georg how can we work with this in the form of ukrainian regime, but a totalitarian sect with which logic does not work. and we are talking about the fact that, in fact, all their wishlist, either bought or made by curators. so we need to somehow work with the curators. and we say, but let's create, as it were, a substation, and then and then nothing, and then they will be told in washington about the guys, crawl away. we are like, we need to work there as scouts and with ukraine. i already gave this example, because if you have a ukrainian puppet, you can break the puppet no longer

will work. they have a year curator to replace one puppet with another to line up new handles at night, but that's the time. for me, it was a revelation today that there is the second place in the ratings of arrestovich. why not? not? why not? that is, that is, that if you break, e.g. zelensky’s puppet, who somewhere in the anamnesis once had at least some something there, and instead of him they will buy arrestovich arrestovich from you, but actually cooler than zelensky cooler professional is just the conversational genre and everything else we caught on their hook, discussing their ratings, which here we will galya scolding will not be green will be lyusya caramelka that's what i'm saying. i'm talking about this, that discussing the impact of pain or some other. we all the time, as it were, are turning to the source of our problems, but the source is not here, and then a question arises. and we can act on those with which we can act, we can act

with threats, drawing a red line with a demon. we will punish. well, i again return to what i was talking about, that is, if we drew a red line conditionally, if you attack the territory of the russian federation, we hit the center to make a decision. so we need to hit the decision -making center in kiev. yes we are again. look here. you again say in the center to make a decision in kiev for a person who is sitting in london or in washington, there will be only these arguments, these are these mini-buses that run there somewhere in this center, to make a decision in kiev , he is generally everything he will be happiness, as if from this. you understand what is not, therefore, again the question is how we can influence those who oversee the whole story on the puppeteers, how often they will tell, but before that, your things. it seems to me that here it is necessary to divide all this cumulative e, and the mass is understandable, and and and for ourselves to define that this is one front and in this e and our enemies. it's like not only those who are sitting in

kiev, for example, and the deputies of the latvian seimas, who have counted. the country sponsored by terrorism, the nationalists die, and what were the deputies for it, than they risk nothing at the same time. and nothing but but latvia lithuania estonia - these are republics that are 30%, even still economically connected through various lining structures. e with the eastern market, so we must create a service, like a mincent at the us department of the treasury, which will identify these assets and arrest them, they must begin to pay economically and even physically. now answer my question. as long as no one hears us. do you have an explanation why , after six months of this whole story, we are not even talking about previous years, when all these jumped, so, uh, the balts, we still have n't done it. do you have an explanation is it because we are overly rational or because we are overly kind or because we are overweight

i have some bad answers to i love bad answers to this question of yours. yes, and you are absolutely right that this, of course, is not the story from 24.02. this is a story with sorry, 19-91, yes, but because unfortunately part of our elite. all these 30 years. uh, solving their business. uh questions and evolving inevitably dealt with the nationalist elites of neighboring states, because they are these nationalist elites. there were power. and if russia brought in or drove resources in transit, there are fertilizer metals. they inevitably dealt with them and inevitably had benefits, and this situation is being reconstructed extremely slowly. and so already how much time has passed is not provided. even a banal translation into foreign languages ​​of all sorts of

interesting videos that people would like to watch is written to me by a whole bunch. here are our people who sitting everywhere in europe talking. oh, but you can translate this or that video into the languages ​​​​and countries of the peoples we are located. i say i do n’t have it. for this, this needs to be dealt with centrally, someone should be responsible for this in a complex for the entire information policy for working with people who live in the west, who are not at all enthusiastic about the policies of their governments, who understand that their government is corrupt and handed them over to the american military-industrial complex, with these people. nobody works. but the west does not forget work with our people. i’m not talking anymore, but there is an abundance of liberda that entrenched itself in moscow in st. petersburg and so on, the last story, when a man was not allowed into a restaurant in beaches for his mother’s birthday, it’s generally something beyond, i just have moscow here i read the news people who transferred money to some kind of

ukrainian fund. got a warning. that is, they were not imprisoned. they didn't close anywhere. they received warnings. but you don’t sponsor everything anymore, what can you even talk about? this is the little things are the little things in life. and you are talking about catching some western scoundrels and hitting them in the pocket in some different ways , elementary does not do. just elementary. it’s surprising for me that this is not being done, because we still haven’t harnessed up yet, or for some other reason i have given these examples that you gave. i can multiply them already, they also talked about the venues where they used to refuse to go there and it means to participate in these poetic evenings and about the fact that somewhere else it’s something, as if not to us and about some poetry collections in which they publish poems of some girl, who are there, as it were, well. why the economy and so on? explain to me, sergei , after all, this is some kind of our lack of assembly so far.

or it's getting worse, or it's already like this, well, as if the absence of actions is what actions are. and everything is much worse than 30 years in russia with charm. well, you're like, it's okay. no, unfortunately, yes, i have nothing to reassure 30 in russia, they built an economic system with colonial policy. here it is multi-level. it permeates the whole country. here just at the request of anyone to change it. impossible change started yes started. how much time it will eat up they have no idea. that is, it will really have to rebuild the whole country there , questions that can be asked, or there you can ask quite specific entrepreneurs and officials, but they are meaningless, that is, the whole logic. the whole motivation of the whole system. here are all the hundred thousand families that stand at the top, they were imprisoned for what they were, that they were part of the global economy, not nationalistic states, and global there. which doesn't matter

what the latvian says absolutely through the latvian port, because this is the story that was built in 30 years ago, the business is doing. eh, you live by your own laws, don’t interfere with ideology and business, and now we’ll see everything, when for pure ideological purposes, they can destroy their economy, their business, their countries, and so on and so forth, and we have grown a whole generation of managers, who grew up in this paradigm that capitalism lives on. here's what i'm talking about today i say kaspersky. listen well, after all, when she and many other specialists walked around the offices of people who spoke for it. you understand that in general, sooner or later, all this software. they can simply take it in the west and turn it off, and it's not just about the androids with which we all go around here, but it's about many of our important industries. i'm sure people and i know it's that many out there. well, who laughed, who smirked? and this is what it says. yeah well, you're crazy just never. capitalism is not on it

will go, because they will lose. this market is floundering on the reserves of russia. it is impossible to arrest anton siluanov. that is, we have now learned a lot about how it works, in fact , the only question is, you just said, it's all the same. we started this movement. it's just that it is more complicated and longer than it seemed to us, or we are still just getting off the stove. just not no, we started, because the operation in ukraine is what the nation state does to protect its national interests, regardless costs, not counting the price from the business point of view, there is not the slightest sense in this operation. she is profitable. it is deeply unprofitable, nevertheless, russia went for it and will bring it to the end. whatever it costs, but then, following this logic here, that russia is above all in the good sense of the word. we will have to rebuild the entire economy, all the political elites, the entire system, change all the parties cleanly, at least in the fact that

they have a national interest in words, everything starts from it and everything ends with it. but the price is not matter. it cannot be unprofitable to national interests. it's not it's an illusion. this is not unprofitable, any restoration of production, any saturation of the market with national goods, as if with services, this is just a profit, this is an increase in export potential, because there are 85% of the world's energy. yes question. in what horizon do you understand that if for 30 years we lived in the idea that we have oil and gas, and we will buy the rest even today from different social strata, there are different relations. uh, k- to a special military operation. here, a comrade came from orenburg, he says, moscow is not at war, orenburg is at war. at the railway station there is a military band, they see off and meet the military, you understand, as if the wounded were in the city. eh, i made a few. uh, uh groups,

like kirov uh, thousands of messages people donate on friday came the salary. i lost 200 rubles. do you understand? why are tears welling up for her? yes , you know, why this is exactly why you and sergey are talking, because orenburg, kiev there is gorno-altaisk, belgorod - these are places where this is ideology that we spoke 30 years ago. it didn't seep into it that way, people there are different, they live differently, but in moscow and, as it were , in large major cities. here, of course, the concentration is ideologies, so it will not be fast, but the fact that it is going on and, as colleagues tell me and as i understand them, is in a sense its own special military operation. it is, as it were, such a support, which , among other things, will not let this healing process that has begun. yes, it will not let it go back, because, well, how would have already started drinking borjomi. let me start. yes, it's already late, that is, the beginning. you can't say,

you know everything, how would we stop like that. and now this is a very important point that is important to understand when asking questions. why? what for? why could this be more global than we can now understand for ourselves? yes, artyom, first of all, i work with, let's say, with the youth, yes, with the liberal -minded part of society. i myself can agree that indeed, in the course of our students. even those who were initially critical of this are becoming more and more it is properly cracked and cleaned precisely thanks to the absolutely inadequate actions of ukraine and absolutely double standards. west they understand that if they had any doubts about what we are doing now, they understand that we are doing the right thing, look people, what we are talking about with colleagues is that the whole picture of the world in which several generations have grown , she at least began to crack, but, but it is very important when we look into the abyss not to give without the impossibility of looking into us, because it is impossible to turn ourselves into well, yes, that is, in

moscow we had a whole series of actions with a country of people who did not support our word of banning the concerts in which you spoke, and so on and so forth. there are two distinct segments to be distinguished here. the first illegal, contrary to russian law, actions of supporting ukraine then it is already a fine to act according to the law. most importantly support opponents. yes she excuse me if people are collecting for nothing. yes. this is an article. this article should be an article, not always. as i understand it, the article is sponsoring terrorism. sorry this. you are now calling me an article, and i am telling you about the application. well, vladimir vladimirovich signed a new provision in the criminal code a month ago. there you can sum these actions under this provision, but on the other hand, the expression of the private point of view of a private company on this. there are the same platforms there for a-a arti and so on. the state should not be directly punished for this, because it is by law that they have the right to do so, but i

i’m not saying that no, no, yes, i’ll agree now, but people should punish, because when it is spread in public, when it is talked about, then, accordingly, people stop themselves, only we need the civil society to clean up these algebras and stables, and society itself, but where the state can clean it will figure out. remember this story in the crimea where, but the car service refused to service. uh our car, uh with the military. remember this story, how the state reacted to all this correctly. them they just didn’t close them according to the law, they did a check, they found a violation, and then they closed it according to the law, and not illegally. these are different. how do you describe it so-so, according to the law, of course, why is it there? well, because honestly you don’t want to serve not only the laws, respecting the russian federation if you oppose our special military operation of the ukrainian nazis and at the same time do not comply with russian law, if you support the official military operation violates whatever you want also does not violate, but it is you who violates - you support

ukraine, but at the same time you do not violate russian law. you have the right to live and work here. we are not ukraine, we do not punish for points of view, only here. and here, i’m thinking, right now, the guys are somewhere, uh, they are on layoffs , if they have, they watch tv on layoffs in donetsk. they say that he said what he said, they say that this dude in the studio said that if you support ukraine, you have the right. and we say they here, and we here their position is clear, i agree with them, emotionally. yes, but once again we have a state of law. i am for the fact that people who support ukraine in the same moscow are supported by actions seen by actions and not by words. yes, the action of ukraine was understood not by the state, but by civil society, well, who will not go, who will not give them money, who will not give them to earn money, and it will punish them, as it should punish society in a civil state of law with citizens, yes ? is with me

if this does not interfere with the state, then it will be self-propelled under them cannot support ukraine no one can support ukraine in thousands of us its state of law, only we must understand, maybe ukraine agrees, but they have his rule. you know, as they say, some of my colleagues would not like to have no one. it seems to me that you are now talking about this certain one. well, either a dogma, or liman is a mantra from that previous period that there is, as if there is an operation somewhere where our guys are fighting and dying. and here it's like nothing no. and there are some ideas about how it is right in our country in a situation where our soldiers are fighting and dying somewhere to express public support for those who kill them, that they are fighting with them, but morally, but even if gevor we do not create a condition , under which it will be unacceptable morally and the public by law, then no war in in what sense of the word can we

win, because this war is not only about tanks, cannons, missiles about the head. as a matter of fact, what we are talking about these changes and about all that is a special military operation. it’s like a process that takes place not only on earth, which takes place in many places, but the main thing and in many respects the success of what we are now talking about and arguing about depends on what is happening on earth, semyon pegov is with us. in touch semyon pegov a few days ago it was in the studio now, as it were, where all this is happening, where all these guys, where they are fighting, solve problems semyon, a word of hello to you. in defiance of your previous spinch, too. personally, i will add a little. yes, as a military commander, of course. i am hmm, i really sometimes lose myself when i'm in moscow it happens that i remember the fourteenth year, when i went by train and zhukovsky to

moscow and we didn't have a dpr chevron, it wasn't so fashionable as it is now yes, in the fourteenth year, i was traveling by train. i just returned from the front, and i spent a lot of time there from motorola with vova with other guys, who are no longer there, but they are really heroes. yes, and some thugs were driving to see my chevron. i didn't ride alone. yes, i went there with my future wife. uh, well, whatever, rides guy with a girl. he has a dpr patch, and a crowd of some freaks screamed all over the train at that moment. glory is a quote i repeat. yeah if there 's someone trying to yes, then cut the file, what do you want to say? yes, it’s clear, thank you for what i didn’t shout, novorossia is a very bad word in rhyme there. well, as for relatively, in fact, to the male genital organ, like, do it, yes, and i was me. i just didn't know where my house was. eh what's

going on? why am i there we're all risking our lives for months. i come here and i hear these people in the train who scream so much and there are a lot of them and hmm nothing will happen for this and never happened. by the way, yes. okay, now to what's going on. today, this is just in addition to what you were talking about just now, and just just a few hours ago, i arrived in donetsk, first of all i phoned the guys from the desk with our friends no yes, they are now actively participating in the case. in that, but the process, which is associated not only with intelligence to obtain data, there are oppositions of the enemy, and so on. that is the main main direction, as it were, for the battalion, they are now storming, including storming enemy positions, wait, storming successfully occupied several lines that are really

fundamental. and now they are trying to storm the anthill and several other ukrainian positions known to the whole world. unfortunately, this does not happen without losses, and several guys who met us here four months ago, with whom we sat to drink tea. uh, climbed to the new terminal. today these guys. no, i want about them, he is this and this is young and tyoma other boys, really, here, who were with us with you. there they occupied a very important line and really fell into a fire trap. neo-nazis, they were attacked vilely, as always, uh and so on. of course, i think that for the sake of these guys, we need some lessons, including uh, so that one way or another, on

that peaceful territory of russia yes, i didn’t say now, it’s impossible on the territory of russia, peaceful yes, we understand , as in belgorod strikes and in the crimea sabotage and so on officially recognizes this. yes, so that these guys understand that this whole big country is for us. okay, back to the front. i must have been so sentimental a little once , because only today i found out the loss of friends who were friends for you, but nevertheless, in spite of everything. these guys are really the strength of their spirit, and mastery of the brain first of all, because, of course, in war the brain is the main thing, whatever one may say, but they do a very difficult daily hourly every minute front-line work right now continues to storm avdiivka, and the advance from the sand closer to me on the other side bypasses and the guys are very actively

fighting in the uludar direction, it was gratifying to hear. i don’t know if i ’ve already talked about this in this studio this week, but i know that we have really serious successes in the slavic direction from the side of raisins, and despite standing there for many months, then one. communication and see i'm afraid we have problems with communication. thank you for your story to all the guys, hello our support. and who died, the eternal memory? you're absolutely right here, uh, that's one of the things. this is something that will not and should not allow us to retreat anywhere, and we will not

retreat. work brothers. hello everyone, we were semyon pegov, and from the dpr well, in fact, i'm talking about what we should do. these guys should not have died, they died and every bastard that supports that side. in fact, that conversation and that our dispute and many of our disputes that we still have to do. we still have a lot to change in our understanding of who we are, what we are, where we are and why is it possible? something is permissible, something is unacceptable to change many ideas about this , and the point is not that, almost six months ago, a special military operation began, that 8 years ago the war of the ukrainian bank formation against the donbass began. no, this is not the point. it's all

much more complicated than random symbolic. today we are going on the air on august 19, 1991 , the very long and difficult path that we are about to change and possibly replay some options. and how will time show. the program will show we continue to work live as part of the information channel on the first ya artyom sheinin. we have already talked a lot today in connection with the terrorist actions of the kiev regime around zaporizhzhya and if, in connection with their informational terrorist activity and sabotage activity, that this is a terrorist regime that is operating in many ways and more and more and is acting further and further and will act as methods. before advertising

, we argued with colleagues about what. well, how do we need to rebuild our perception of it and our attitude towards it, destroy it, not destroy it, not to destroy it, to talk not to talk. i just want to remind everyone, with all the correctness of these disputes and discussions, that, in general, we also discussed what to do with the situation around donbass for 8 years, but we discussed a lot. well, no matter how you drive or introduce, maybe somehow agree. maybe you have some agreement and so on and so forth in essence. yes, this is an illustration, in places very sad, in places very painful, the principle that yes, we harness for a long time , sometimes we harness for too long, but nevertheless, we go and the whole special military operation to a certain extent - this is the answer to all those disputes that before this have been going on for many years. so what to do? uh uproot don't uproot and so on. and when we have all these disputes, and we must partly theoretically

partly justified, we must not forget that all this began and continues, because for 8 years several million russian people lived under shelling, pretending to be the state of a terrorist association. this is what is most important now and continue in the case of donetsk and the dpr and in a certain part of the dpr and now i live in the liberated territories of kherson zaporozhye under this. here is the most important thing that should not be forgotten in all our theoretical disputes , now we will talk with igor kimakovsky, who, uh, just a few days ago already back there left, and in general spends more time there than here. igor is now in touch with us. igor hello. how do you hear me? artyom viewers welcomes you and with. e, donetsk a. tell me about that time. here are a few days for you to be there. what did you see happening? what are the moods where did you go, but you tell everything that you consider necessary and

important in the light of the situation, which you understand no less than all of us. yes, the first one made me happy. our customs and border guards. e in enough in in such a businesslike and serious pace first of all, there is a pass of a large number of trucks that go towards the donetsk people's republic, these are multi-kilometer queues, and with the numbers of various regions in russia, and you know this, this is how this is the first time i felt such a know, this satiety. i understand that a big country helps. this is a republic in which people with very big souls live, and now i spoke directly to the drivers when i stood at the border crossing. uh, they carry completely different goods from building materials. up to something the simplest elementary. what the republic needs is the first impression, the second impression, when i drove into the territory of the republic , not only bread was harvested in the fields, but the fields were already

plowed up and are already preparing for the new season. this is the second time i feel for the season the suffering is in full swing, and this is the second time i felt it. i am this right satiety. well, when you enter donetsk and you see ordinary people who, despite this cannonade, uh, continue to walk. the only thing i notice much less there are children on the streets and this is due to these, uh, petals, scattered throughout the districts. that is, now adults here take very seriously, uh, where, when and what time they walk with their children. and so everything is in working situations. now preparations are underway for the new academic year, and the government is working hard. they came to me maybe at one meeting, and the new ministers, including the minister of education, have been formed. and just after this meeting. i'm going. now the ministry is there

coordinate issues in mariupol, but met with the builders. and the restoration is in full swing, that is, the creation of a new microdistrict in mariupol and the laying of a water conduit in the new ones, the laying of spare power networks, everything is being done to ensure that as soon as possible. but to minimize the consequences that were er, well, that occurred er, serious in mariupol volnovakha, that is, construction is underway. and this also cannot but rejoice. it's three. such well -fed here are interesting moments that well here is some confidence in me tomorrow give and e. yesterday i was not far from verkhotoretsk with the guys. eh, that is, we continue with you. uh, study the situation of the guys who volunteer. let's go first, and special operations. and in the donbass let's go fight the

nazis and you know what i want to tell you. that's right you say. there, uh, that it is necessary to clearly give the terminology that these are fascists and that these are terrorists, because indeed they treat in this way what i heard from the guys. this uh confirms this is mystical methods. shelling in settlements. this is, uh, shooting wounded civilians , in order to stop our offensive in those settlements where people still live today. this is what i mean. uh, not far from uh avdiivka is also so interesting. they came to the upper toretskoye from one side. uh, such a wasteland and on the other side grandmother sits and grazes two cows, you also know, uh, well, such a moment that war is war, and life. eh, it's very serious inside here. wow, she's so rich continues. e, in. e. the first thing, of course,

came when in the unit to the beard. uh, let's put it this way, who left the 107th volunteer regiment and went to the ninth regiment in full force, that is, when you already know what it's called, that is, these regiments, the former volunteer ones, they became quite hardened, and got stronger in battles . and already many. uh, the hr departments come in as buyers and sort out the, uh, personnel there. uh, well, buyers. well, that is, well, the officers come, they say we need some amount, personally, i for such tasks. and now, uh, the beard is already leading there, that is, being in the 107th regiment, and now he is already a company commander as a platoon commander and leads an assault company, storms the avgeevka and talked about several interesting, uh, operations. e and said that underestimate the enemy. no wonder it’s impossible, because the enemy is still seriously resisting, pulling up artillery and the main one

now. uh, the task at the front is to suppress the enemy's firing points, than beard people. eh copes. well, beard said very well, well, such for us and with you, because we are this person knew the bad news. e did not become the commander of the one hundred and seventh regiment. that's all, enemy artillery, young kid. eh, good. here we talked to him. just before my departure, and he is no longer with us , and the boys are there today, but under the upper toretsky in the avdeevskaya area. uh, in the avdiivka area. they are, let's say, sleeping, and also because of him, and they speak openly about this. yes, we are taking revenge, because they are killing our best e guys, and for this they must bear the due responsibility. our guys keep firing. here this morning here in donetsk, let's say, i worked solo. our artillery. even already the answer was not heard, but it worked directly and it is clear that they worked pointwise

. eh, shut up. uh, then there is an adjustment, again on target and again goes, uh, work. i see. these are my first impressions of the first days spent here, well, today after the ministry in the evening i will go again near marinka already to the 107th battalion. where were we too? clearly i have two, but short questions clarifying you. eh, just about that what you were talking about, that's about the reservists. every time i ask you about this, because you and i started this topic on the air of the federal channel and said that we will continue what you saw there, what you know, but nevertheless, the problem continues to be eliminated, and bulletproof helmets , and other communication equipment and so on. so you say that you saw a lot of chickens on the border and a big country helps. a large country is already helping this now, or is it volunteers, but what did i see, what did i see, and specifically, when i went to beard, beard, he’s already joking too, igor went into

the room, you’ll see, bulletproof vests and helmets, and at least his unit is staffed. uh, kevlar mikasks of the first category and bulletproof vests of the fourth fifth category, and he clearly tracks. uh, so that the personnel, uh, went to the battlefield exclusively in body armor. here is a small e call sign, well, a man who, well, a young boy of eighteen, who, in front of my eyes , has already become such a hardened fighter, and almost like a son to me. here, he went to perform one task, and literally for 20 minutes and went without body armor. and when the beard came, knowing, even my attitude towards him, he poured him for the fact that he went without a bulletproof vest. i mean, uh, at least. this is where normally commanders perform their tasks. eh, they are complete and complete, including what is interesting that everything is pixelated, that is, this is what should be standard in the unit. well, that is, what should be according to the charter, what is called military service, the second question for you is

just what you said today at a meeting about a about the upcoming school year. also a very important question. we also discussed it with you, mariupol and i know from you and not only from you that the situation in mariupol is rather complicated. e with the fact that the ukrainian side is trying to disrupt the beginning of the school year, and outbid teachers. uh, so that they don’t go out, they even pay them money so that they stay at home and take online or ukrainian lessons. is this somehow being solved or the problem still exists, uh, the problem in mariupol is to a lesser extent. it's more, probably, after all, zaporozhye and kherson, that is, this problem that you spoke about in those schools that will be launched in mariupol, according to the words, and the education manual will be completely according to our russian standards, and teaching in schools will be conducted. and interestingly , the teachers note the leadership, and the education of mariupol claims that they will even be much

safer than it will be in donetsk because, well, you understand, that is, as long as we understand and there will be certain difficulties in the front for kilometers, here, too, is considered . in what mode are children will study in donetsk, or will it be completely distance learning, or will it be some kind of mixed form of education that will ensure the safety of our children as much as possible. thank you igor thank you igor this is igor kimakovsky. well, you understand this . eh, donetsk lives. uh, the life of the dnr is difficult. it's complicated. yes, because it's coming. eh, war is a front, but, as you can see, it’s not only that, that is, when igor talks about this very important feeling that there’s not only this one, yes, there’s a lot of terrible, a lot of difficult, a lot of hard, but you and i should not get the feeling that this is some kind of continuous hopeless, but hopelessness, that is. well, uh, that's how it was always listen, uh, the battles in stalingrad, the restoration of stalingrad and so

on. but i'm looking at you, yes, you spent a week there and i have such things to say, come on. these are the ones i still don't understand. why are they needed? the border guards are russian customs, and then the customs and border guards of the dniester, i don’t understand point-blank, why do we need these four offices now? yes, control is needed, why not put one booth? instead of four you can’t even imagine what’s going on there. why is this? i don't understand. that's really practically the need to control, but in one booth. this is such a torment for people, there are the wildest queues. i almost glued my flippers while it all went back and forth, then there is no water in donetsk at all you know why i know why and the saddest thing is that there are few people who explain when something will not be very good, let's say with

logistics. this is something that can be improved and corrected, even in the current situation it is clear that not yet take, slavyansk with water will still be bad, but the logistics are possible. it would be better to fix it somehow and better, i started a special bot at my place, so that people from all over donetsk write how they understand everything, they complain about logistics. they say yes. despite all the difficulties, something can be done and their claims, in principle, i think are quite reasonable. and so that life goes on. no, strewn with petals , she repeatedly filmed and showed on video. what it looks like donetsk empty people prefer not shine, because to fly. can, anytime and anywhere and victims, indeed. it's just unrealistic. this is how he lives, donetsk will be back soon, i will tell you from the spot, so to speak, what is being done. this is how he lives. eh, donetsk is not only donetsk and gorlovka also lives and hay as well. here and yes and here it is. eh,

the question is what you said. and what about strewn, that there are few people? igor said this and they try not to let the children out, that's all. that is, you understand people who are 8 years old. living in it all it must be hard for them to get used to it. it would seem to everything, well, roughly imagine, what is well, just imagine. right now, well, anyway, here in the central lane. well, it’s so fat, yes, it’s like you have it yes, the city was alive there, and now it’s here imagine what it’s like to keep children at home in such weather, and all this happens in many ways, because here are throws petals at donetsk and shells and gorlovka and zaitsev shells and shells hay and and so on, what is behind this, as we have already said , terrorist organization behind it are some forces that are necessary and important for some reason, so that this continues. here is and this utterly concrete

people. they have names, they have jobs, but here's 800 million in additional security assistance. you see, it's called $800 million in security. so you roughly understand that some of these tens and hundreds of millions of dollars for security will be spent on killing people in donetsk in gorlovka in sesenoto and so on and so forth in order to shell the nuclear power plant, setting. eh, so to speak, the state of such unrest is the whole world, and so on. moreover, this is the allocation of money, solving some kind of american tasks, which we will talk about. it also excites a representative, so to speak - this is a terrorist organization, but some such inflated ideas about who they are and what their task is. i already gave you danilov today, obedient. let's listen again to this as it was supposed to pin this debiloid, so that he start talking about it, please. regarding the question, to what extent is the restoration of borders

only a complete decoupation to the 1991 borders for ukraine, any territorial compromise with the kremlin is a war postponed for the future today and there is less chance to break the back of the russian spike on clay feet. it is clear that he, as we would say, that, here he is working out the soldering, but the soldering still does not end with the soldering, then a new one was allocated to him, and moreover, they are, as it were, and informational too so slightly push, because the guys, well, we kind of feed you, but let's you, too, this food needs to be worked out. and here, for example, one such installation, very interesting in the publication of politics, please. attacking crimea is fair game for ukraine and it has american backing to hit the russians. there, defense minister oleksiy reznikov said that ukraine does not rule out a strike on the occupied territory with the help of us-provided weapons, a senior administration official the white house said that the united states supports strikes on

crimea if kiev deems them necessary. of course, we do not choose a target and everything that we provided is for self-defense. any target that ukraine decides to pursue on sovereign ukrainian soil is by definition self-defense. crimea is ukraine said, the source said the source. well, that is, as it were. well, yes. here we see how it works. that is, how what kind of mood and what conversations it generates, respectively, in the minds. here, well, cultists, please. and please note that the mouse is a mouse, we work jewelry exclusively on military installations. and yes, i understand that , uh, we are gradually approaching the southern coast of crimea . the main thing is that we can reach there. you see, yes, and i want to note that the person who says this zhdanov is

actually one of the quite, well, sane, and in the professional sense of the word , ukrainian military experts and analysts. that is, imagine if even with him, this is already all overshadowed to such an extent, then, and how dangerous it all can be, or not ket sergeevich, do you think that this is all like that herself. uh, how to put it mildly self-satisfaction, as i believe that you know how dizzy is from success, and sometimes they have the most satisfaction from lack of success. no , i just think that it would be criminal on our part to absolutely turn a blind eye to the fact that they reach military facilities, because from time to time you said what you are talking about, in the very the beginning and about lev of the kursk region. yes, we remember now. we are talking about warehouses. in principle, we now see that, most likely, i can be wrong again. this is my version of the task on the crimean bridge set. i am deeply convinced that, most likely, i do not know if it will be a high distance? i all

know very well that they work on the territory of the crimean peninsula. air defense works brilliantly and thank god if on purpose, if it weren’t, but you understand, that’s what we talked about at the very beginning, the image war is an information war agree to strike at the crimean bridge, even if it doesn’t happen, but it’s disabled, we know that it’s difficult to strike so accurately, so that the brain, especially the crimean bridge, all the more under the cover of air defense , stopped working, but from the image point of view of creating a precedent, then what my colleague was talking about. look here. after all, they are really trying to unite around these virtual ones. they are succeeding . we can talk a lot about dismoral in the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine, that they are thrown there like cannon fodder and absolutely i didn’t appreciate the sketch to them, i wanted to say these information translations, but as soon as there is some kind of victory in the information space as part of an attack on the crimea as part of an attack on the territory of kursk, belgorod, well, belgorod region, bryansk region, and so on, they have it again.

well, i don't know some kind of force, the power to give their lives and resist even further, so that the politics of a politician is the mouthpiece of the democratic party of the united states of america, in fact , politics always announces decisions already made, shaping public opinion and even public inquiry in a certain way, so when we see this kind of material. this suggests that i don't want to make a mistake, i really want it quietly, that the crimea may soon become a hot spot, right? well , the fact that the united states is a state sponsor of terrorism. generally? everyone has known for a long time . here we even discuss, well, there is no point. i would continue the thought that nikita really says. this is very serious in the background lack of real success. at the front, against the backdrop, the ukrainian country is already recognizing the impossibility of any serious counter-offensive operations in kherson and so on, they need a virtual victory, a virtual victory, but not only for the ukrainian population, which nikita spoke about, in my opinion, is also

politics or some one of the largest other western countries. i don't remember exactly now. they fix that, in general, the level of support for ukraine in the world is falling, like in how does politics fix it? yes, well, i said correctly, but how moral support, and most importantly, financial financial support is not only money, money that is allocated - this is the same incentive that you spoke about, that nikita spoke about. this is a sign of the political support of the west for the actions that ukraine is doing and everyone is monitoring it, which means against the backdrop of a lack of military success. loudly propagandistic, victory is the very blow on the crimean bridge, that with this blow an attempt is made to strike, which, of course, may not work, but nevertheless it will done, they will launch missiles at them, but it will be shown as a blow. and what should i do in this situation, and i, like nikita, a number of other experts, have been talking for a week already, probably, that the only option to prevent these virtual defeats is a hard blow to the hands, a hard blow with two hands. where do

the hands grow from? where to hit the rays in kiev here are the hands that in kiev in washington we still can’t reach militarily, we can’t calibrate them, and kiev from daggers or calibrate are you quite able to calibrate? specifically, let's strike at the building of the general staff of the armed forces, and you think the turnover is those who give instructions. they are sitting right there in the general staff office, and the very fact that we hit and destroy these buildings is important. even if there are no generals, he will already show that impunity is over, that moscow will respond harshly. these are the people who will carry out the criminal orders of the americans in kiev. they will not think that we will receive money for these orders. they will think that we for it touched the money or the amount of view. look here sergei e. no, no, no matter how it is not the first day, not the first the expert says this, and, uh, nikita sergeevich also said this argument, which, roughly speaking, well, okay. but, then they will say about us about us, and so, firstly, everyone will already say it already, and so everything has already been said. but they will count us. they already thought of us. do you have

any, but objections to why this could not be done and understanding. why is this not being done yet, and i have an explanation why here's something and the point is fair questions. we are all the time trying to understand, in general, why is it so difficult to solve it all? why do we solve these this equation with many unknowns, are we? we understand that it is indeed a terrorist entity, but there is nothing to cover up, it is clear to say so, yes, but the fact is that even a state that is not on the list of unfriendly states does not think so. china does not consider ukraine terrorist, india does not consider brazil does not consider it either. so if we follow the logic as well. and nikita, then we will need to explain to our closest allies and partners why we, apart from their opinion, that this is not terrorist , nevertheless brought it to the end. yes, if

the ukrainian state ceases to exist, i also don’t know what we will say to xi jinping, what we will say in models. but tell me, please, what is going on there, well. there, all hmm, you understand what is happening with him in the field of combating terrorism, in some regions of the country. understand some things that just through which it is impossible. enter look guys, it's none of your business. here we will do this and that, you understand, because there is a certain level of mutual understanding. you understand, including with leading strategic partners and allies, you understand, yes, you see their strategy. here, and yes, we understand that this did not fit into a short question, seryozha, are you speaking correctly ? yes, but you understand the difference between a blow to the verkhovna rada or the cabinet and the difference in a blow to the general staff. we will probably not be able to explain the difference in terms of the verkhovna rada, we will not be able to

explain why we hit the verkhovna rada but the agent headquarters as part of a special operation. well, if we say delphinium, do as we do, firstly, i answered nikita, as far as i understand, that indeed we all have a legitimate question for all of us, how will a terrorist organization exist ? . answering george ege-ge-ge-geogur georg yes indeed. and can you tell me that there is an experience of israel of the era natalia? yes, yasin is there, so to speak, but the hamas rider did not explain it to his riders, but on the other hand. if you are here, you understand, find a hornet's nest in your dacha. yes, you will hit him with a stick, 1, 2, 3, you understand? yes, yes, they will fly. for example, i once tried. he fights like that, you know, yes, he proposes to shy away from a strong nest, which he proposes to shy away

specifically at the object of the military part of the military infrastructure as part of the hostilities that we are already conducting anyway yegorka misspoke. not happy don't give a damn about problems. what the fuck are we up to them, dmitry say, we will strike a symbolic blow. we 'll show you change. yes, this pants will appear, that now we are even more strictly. lithuania will not deal with transit. e blocking, transcribing to everyone, if they touch, after that a second or two do, well, for 800 million, maybe there will be no more a yard and a half. what makes you think that they will stop, they do not stop. well , here the next moment is, as it were, if we take a specific general staff, let's assume. tomorrow is happened, respectively, what kind of reaction will be on the outer perimeter, let's assume immediately everyone says, accordingly, that's it. after that, we finish everything, as if one victory was fixed. or let's, we put money on top of him and let's throw weapons on top, because they protect him, the general staff itself. what kind of reaction will we explain to the whole difference between the

general staff, respectively the ministry of defense and everything else is a question. even not in it it is necessary to explain a question in the following. if you want to deal damage deal damage, where it affects, that is, in this case, if you don’t want the united states or, respectively, great britain or , for example, the same uh, any other, and the politician helped you put there before him the issue of the security of your nuclear is much more important when you once said guys , if it will put a heavy. we will start, respectively, as if the nuclear military exercise began to transfer the military nuclear military exercises, and what's all this? this is just part of the toss, in this particular case, from the fact that you are fucking in the staff to the general staff from this, accordingly, the position of the united states, whose midterm elections will not change in any way, if they don’t roll back this position now, they now need to decide now 800 million. dollars will not survive, billions will give, they will survive time. would be an opera, but he ’s talking about what dmitry is talking about. you all know

the army 2022 forum is taking place. here, natalya ivanovna kaspersky was asked about the fact that, within the framework of the cyber ​​war, the question of what needs to be beaten in pinpoint places or threaten with strikes, e, in such sensitive places. here is the question she was asked. that's what's in cybern, she said a very interesting thing to the question of what we need even with only hypothetical hints. here, in my opinion, is an example of how it should work. we can turn off everything that works on android, so don't be happy, in fact, all smartphones on the territory of the russian federation can hypothetically be turned off. it 's one of those, uh, threats we're talking about, that's just the keber war, yeah. everybody you guys understand devices well, so we look like it’s not there yet, but if kasperskaya says this, she’s an expert responsible for five tops, who panics? so

, theoretically, such a possibility exists, this is an example, we are starting to argue here. here bang not bang. here are the guys. they say, you know, theoretically, it can look disable here , look, in fact, to the question of what, as it were, where these real points are and in fact, what they are and how to use them, because we have, as it were, years necessary a little to penetrate inside, by the way, dmitri works on you look. it is, in fact, generally real. and so, of course, we, accordingly, had attempts. we have cut off the autocad. we just lost our springs. naturally, windu is now chopped off in the process. that is, we are cutting out. if this it is, so, by the way, that is, to the question of what we think about, and what we can be answered not in military terms, this is happening, we think as well. no, look, i 'll tell you more terrible things, nothing that we have respectively part, respectively, for example. as if the terminal of everything else works on the external bridge to automate the control system, respectively, the external one. that is, tomorrow you will have the same turbines that you had, respectively, on nord stream. one of them can simply be unscrewed physically. they can be turned off through the software on the external software.

i’ll tell you a terrible secret, so everyone is with gazprom and they demand that they drink funds for nissance, because tomorrow semyon will say hmm i've been thinking, and we're all turning off the program itself. and what we will have on nord stream 2, for example, is in the turbine that we created with our software. that is, there are a lot of such points. you do not understand how, as it were, we take the whole depth of this confrontation with the situation, respectively, with byte biden. he is already trying to sort out the fourth, as it were, the situation with the fact that he is grateful to terrorism. but something they do not agree, this decision is offered by the state now before the elections, the very theme corresponds to everything, strange as it is terrorism. everything we all limit them to is, china will normally be able to deliver for everything very simply, because this will end the delivery of a compressed one, but the industry, in principle, immediately, and could not process the low ones. after that, the european partner, against the backdrop of funds from heating, will come to violate sanctions, because they will have to supply at least something through gas, the same applies to the grain deal. and so they keep this situation for a long time fighting off the republic. democrats together taken the question is as follows do you know exactly these vulnerable points. do you, do you seriously think that the biden, who is going to be chosen, does not care, for example, that how the general staff will stand, on the contrary, he will show the general staff is on fire. here is the need to delay more. now i am the president of the war by no means me. do not

touch the problem is this. if you want, for some reason, take it, cut off the infrastructure accordingly. supply heavy weaponry or take a match to make such load on other points, so that, accordingly , there is attention, such as china, because china is more important for the united states than the russian federation. therefore, from this point of view. it can make a matter of consequences. that is, if something strikes and enters, as if for some red branches they want to in those places where it is significant, artyom and very briefly now, yes, but you throw the volga q we should not do what what we need, because otherwise the sanctions against us are deeply flawed, because the sanctions against us all the same look yes and if we we will not do something in order to calculate the consequences. you just understand once again the strike at the center of the enterprise of military decisions in kiev the ukrainian leadership is holding the whole case in belgorod, why then the gursky rg works, that they went beyond the red

ones as long as we have not done this, we cannot say that there will be any consequences. let's see, and so on, we don't know who can try what trump cards in their hands. can i wait a little. and we don't know who decides what. hello, on channel one, the information channel program continues its work. time will tell. i am artyom sheinin. today, of course, we will talk a lot about an important event related to the whole situation around the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, especially since yesterday we discussed with you that our military made a statement that the ukrainian armed formations may be preparing some kind of the provocation yesterday in sufficient

detail. we discussed it. ah, and one of this is confirmed by the fact that the ukrainian military also stated that there might be some kind of provocation. well, of course, they, as always, blamed everything on us, and about all this. we will talk today, because the situation is really difficult. really alarming. and the point is not only in the nuclear power plant itself and what may or may not happen there, but in the fact that this example, and it shows that this is what many out of habit call ukraine as a state it is more and more and proves to us more and more that it does not exist, and more and more clearly manifests, manifests its character. well, as such an absolutely, acting according to the laws of a terrorist entity is strongly implicated in a totalitarian sect. this is the worst. this is the most terrible combination, because the totalitarian sect is always sure that only it is right in everything, and always it, and

the terrorist methods that are taken. uh, in this regard, they, uh, actually have no borders in arms. and this is very important for conversation that we will have today and in general to assess what is happening and will happen in connection with this confrontation, since here it is taking place on the ukrainian foothold. we must very clearly understand and drive into our heads what we have been talking about for many years, but i get the impression that we have been talking about this for many years, but everyone did not fully believe in it, that the ukrainian so-called state and tourist education and this is not a mantra, a journalist or propaganda, this is a reality, which this education confirms more and more strongly the action you do with these methods, not only in the shelling of a nuclear power plant. well, obviously in nuclear blackmail we are being blackmailed for one thing, and the west is blackmailing us with these threats for another for money for weapons for something else, it's not

just that. well, look, why is this attitude so important last night. yes, there was another surge. here is their semi-sabotage floor. uh, informational fake e-activities yesterday the air defense in kerch went off. yesterday a whole wave went news, what's going on? uh, at the belbek airfield? immediately, uh, it means that ukrainian publics began to throw in some videos that something is right there, it’s on fire, it’s on, it’s on, it’s on, and why am i so emphasizing that you need to understand that we are dealing with a terrorist formation, and how it would be information-terrorist, among other things, because ukrainian publics immediately began to shove some kind of video of some kind of fire. and many people began to write to me, what is happening there? what is there, what is there, what is burning there? i say well guys let's check. yes, no, there is already a video there, it burns, it burns very strongly, he speaks directly, that is, literally some time passes and reuters comes by the way, he also wrote about this, referring to the ukrainian public, yes, yes, but nevertheless it

passes a little time comes official information, please. recently, according to preliminary data, an unmanned aerial vehicle was shot down near the belbek airport with no damage. no, no one was hurt by dill publics. i already see that they have begun to disperse preparations for their successful attack. please keep everyone calm and get information from trusted sources, you understand, yes, and the video that they shoved everywhere and which they even started to share true with a link to them, uh, share and the reuters is an old video that takes a lot of time, but why am i doing it again this emphasis, we are not dealing with the state and not even with state propaganda, we are dealing with a terrorist organization that operates according to the methods of a terrorist organization, which attention can do anything and which acts, regardless from any norms of rules about anything. the main thing is that the

main thing is to produce an effect. and if you made an emotional effect on the public, it doesn’t matter what later it turns out that you that there’s nothing of this, that you won’t do anything for a terrorist organization , it doesn’t matter for a terrorist organization, because the spoons are there, but the sediment remains, to which i am so much i pay attention to this, because this is my talk about the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, but it should be taken into account. as you understand, uh, terrorists are any terrorists and the fact that now they have such activity around zaporozhye nuclear power plant and with this, picking up all sorts of shelling and talking about the fact that they will shell bridges and so on, to which we will return today. pay attention to any terrorists who take hostages. they start talking about shooting hostages, when things get worse for them, they begin to mine the buildings in which they took over, when they get worse, we are dealing with a situation where this terrorist formation is on

the battlefield. everything is bad and it won't get better. is not says it will be very easy. for us. no. it will be hard, but they have no chance on the battlefield. and the better. this is clear to them and their curators who tell him guys. well, you can't go there, well, let's go somewhere else. and this is where the processing begins. this is processing. and this, after all, manifests itself. it is very important to remember this in everything now, when we will discuss the zaporizhia station and other stories , you understand, and for this reason they do not behave like a country. i don't even talk about it, i was talking about it yesterday he said how zelensky dresses in lviv , nowhere, not there on the front line, or even in kiev , which, well, at the very least, was somewhere near the fighting . he meets with world-class politicians , uh, dressed, well, like in pants in a t-shirt and so on and so forth. that is, he violates these rules, he does not violate any rules, he does not read them correctly for himself, because he is not in the

state, he is in a terrorist gang that can do anything. just like the same gang can , uh, well, that's the story. eh, ours, then some there, what is called a figure who has been living in kiev for a long time and tried to leave from there. they banged him in the passport of a citizen of the russian federation. well, that is, as it were. you see , it’s not just some kind of banged up, there is a blogger schmonger or some activist of the right sector, these are ukrainian border guards in the passport banging such a seal, moreover, she they have it ready. she's been carved out of them. and now in all these discussions. i say no well, stop it anyway. we are talking, here, but as if the state is what we are talking about, and this is that's the state to do. no, this is very creative, very coronal, but this is a sect dash of a terrorist organization. there were creative people there too. all this is very important for me, so that you have in mind, yes, and these are

just flowers, but there are also petals that this terrorist sect throws not only at donetsk, despite the fact that the petals are prohibited by all conventions. and yesterday the governor of the belgorod region said that these petals are already covering the regions of the russian federation with these petals, but i repeat again, my friends. yes, it's annoying. yes , it's infuriating, but it's all the more important for us for everyone to understand that we are not talking about a state, but a terrorist entity, this is exactly how it should be discussed. we continue to work live on august 19 today is the day about which the ministry of defense of the russian federation said that, according to their information, some kind of provocation by the kiev regime could occur on this day, related to the zaporozhye nuclear power plant, which they

have been shelling for quite a long time, then eat. uh, a provocation is something even more serious than the situation or the shelling, uh, another level. we started yura to talk about when we talk about the kiev regime. we must understand that in general, such a terrorist organization operating by these methods is absolutely untethered, therefore, all the ideas that there are some conventions there are norms of laws, that well, no. well, they can't go for that, because, uh, i'll add some more in parentheses to me here. no, well, after all, these are not exactly terrorists. yes, here they are maintains an international garden. well, listen, and that bin laden herself did not have an american agent, so that at a certain moment now, since you happened to, uh, after all, well, more or less a little better than we imagine. well , as it were, this is what was there at the beginning a few years ago, when you knew this pretzel, but i knew how you think. this is a creative terrorist sect. she can go to some transcendental actions, or still,

in your opinion, she will rather remain within the framework. here's the whipping information noise. well, to be honest, everyone i knew there, uh, and everyone i didn’t know, but watched these years, they are cowardly cowardly to the point of madness. they are terribly afraid and tremble for their skins. maybe that's why the same azov people began to surrender in azov, they stood to the end, it can't even be. this is most likely why, that is, they will, of course, whip. of course, they will blackmail everyone, but give guarantees that among them there will not be some crazy fanatic ready to arrange something grandiose and catastrophic no one will give you this guarantee. uh-huh yes, this percentage is all the same. listen, a fanatic will not cope, here we need organized analyzes of the word. agree, right? well, in general, of course i agree. i am very pleased that this consolidated position in russia has been worked out, that there is understanding. how to treat our enemies. eh, and enemies can be called those who used to be russians there. yes

, they were brothers, and today they became and began to kill us. that's why, ah, really terrorists, really they are at the head moreover, when we knew him, we even talked there 10-15 years ago, but nothing said that this person was a fairly popular walkie-talkie. quite right. everything can be compared with the name, therefore it makes no sense to negotiate with them, which means that they only need to be defeated and destroyed, defeated and destroyed, i am very worried, the situation around the zaporizhzhya npp . the world is there, yes, as they say, will never be the same there, when it started to loose on the operation world has already changed. we have changed. yes , today, if god forbid, they will try to build something and arrange some kind of nuclear catastrophe. and i just want to remind you, i myself survived chernobyl , yes, i was in the hospital with radiation exposure. i can tell you . if you want, the symptoms, what is it? it's when you vomit terribly, i was 10 years old.

i think on may 12 i was then taken to the hospital in uh 1986 with radiation and lay there, as if they were treating me, that is, after that, the chernobyl disaster. i died a year later father. mom works completely for chernobyl, they actively use it. i mean now, when you start talking about it and share your personal impressions. you are, in a sense, involuntarily. well, you work in some of the same trend that they are counting on. you remember how it would be, but imagine now something like this will happen, so let's go. you will start talking to us with ukrainian terrorists. i think in another i say not to stipulate. they can be needed as soon as possible. what to press to push it the key is because it makes no sense to talk to them. this is true, but, but here the question arises that it makes no sense to talk to them, we understand for 8 years what they are doing in the donbass and listening to these conversations. remember, this is it, this is a model for this whole situation, you promise to hang anything , then instead of the word hang, you can substitute

any word here the question arises. why did they come to talk to them yesterday , the secretary general spoke for a minute un ah, and in your opinion, it can change something for the better or rather, it will give them even more confidence in what is being said. i think that, unfortunately, this will not change anything, because and those with whom one could potentially talk were behind the scenes behind the brackets, and it is clear that zelensky is not independent in his decisions in his behavior, but he simply relays, let's say the program that was put into it on the eve of the negotiations. here are some red lines flags. this is what you have to say. it's you who shouldn't say therefore he reproduces it all, and he will reproduce it. exactly until the moment when some other team goes. but those

puppeteers, they are not in the meeting room. they are somewhere far away you understand, so some, but some believe there is such a version. and yesterday it sounded in my studio , there is such a version. well, you’re making a mess separately well, erdogan brought him certain conditions, certain proposals. or whatever it is call that of course. conferred to zelensky, who did nothing decides, but this one zelensky broadcasts to his curators the question can he change this if you agree with this version? i think that while this will not change anything, but it is clear that erdogan is playing his game, it is clear that erdogan's initiative is unacceptable for the west, because for the west, speaking of the term, erdogan himself is unacceptable. this is a cat that plays the dog a little bit those who talk about this version. uh, they say that the erdogants met with putin on august 5th. and that and that erdogan came there, also as a person, who met with putin quite rightly and roughly

speaking, erdogan, in addition to his interests, who, of course, has grain and four ukrainian corvettes that are being built in istanbul and bayraktars and so on. he still, perhaps, as some believe, broadcast. well, that is, it is a translator of sentences, well, on the other hand. oh, it's very good that this was mentioned. and just yesterday i was carefully looking into this, and i saw the statement at the secret. vladimir putin, dmitry peskov, who, in fact, decomposed into atoms this situation after the meeting in sochi yes, he literally said the following. well, i don’t have a quote, i retell close to the text. we see erdogan's effort. we don’t think they are positive, but now we don’t see any conditions for negotiations, because there is no subject for negotiations, and as long as he said, the ukrainian side has gone off the radar of negotiations until it is done, draft work at the level of negotiators no, there are no items for negotiations and no items for meetings, probably

at the highest level, so we are grateful to erdogan, let him try, but we have our own position. that's all, but erdogan has something with his stubbornness. thought i needed to push it further. here's another way to say, to talk, i agree, as if you understand the magic. you understand with all due respect to the work of dmitry peskov well , what did you want the president's press secretary to do? the russian federation said, yes, we sketched here. here we sketched out to erdogan a certain list of our demands, partially ultimatum. well , he’ll voice it there, and then we’ll see, peskov is doing his he has to do the job. here, look. yesterday after all these efforts. after all the negotiations, zelensky came out and said that no negotiations are possible until they are returned. now everything is the last nail to beat. look, of course, you contradict yourself. why because, if you say that zelensky came out and said, and this is the solution to the issue. you contradict yourself zelensky voices what he is told to voice at the moment, it is clear that if he

was brought some conditions, as some believe he won’t come out, won’t say, you know, it’s like they offered me here. i will now think and so on. he was told to play this game for now. you are cool, you are, as it were, frostbitten, as if in pants and a t-shirt. and you can do everything, as if standing on your own , you understand that bargaining is a synonym for the word cake to the question of that. did something affect this and , in fact, what was the point of these negotiations, who heard whom, what will not be said publicly. i say again, i do not want to look for confirmation, not for not against, but one interesting thing. i personally, uh, caught my eye. well, look, zelensky's interesting wording was already after these negotiations yesterday. and about who is everything they want. and who is still shelling e stations, what's with these shelling? listen. this is important. russia must immediately withdraw its troops and stop shelling from nuclear power plants in southern ukraine carefully. note zelensky says on august 18

after this meeting that russia should stop shelling from the nuclear power plant. when i heard i checked it four times in all languages. he says, that is, there is a version that russia is shelling someone from there, but for a minute, starting from the fifth of august. i will demonstrate this to you now . the version of the ukrainian side was directly opposite, the version of the ukrainian side was. here is such a directly lifted. let's follow now, please. the russians fired on the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant twice russia should be responsible for the threat to the nuclear power plant, this is the largest nuclear power plant on our continent and any shelling of this facility - this is a frank audacious crime of actor-terror mining the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant and shelling this facility by the invaders have all the signs of nuclear terrorism on the part of russia, the whole world must unite in order to prevent a catastrophe by shelling the territory of the

zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant russia can achieve certain goals, smoke and the picture are important to them need to say that supposedly ukrainian troops are shelling one of the russian artillery strikes, damaged the first block of the pumping station of the workshop, thermal and underground communications. and another arrival led to the partial destruction of the fire department responsible for the safety of the zaporozhye nuclear power plant . russia is hitting the part of the nuclear power plant where the energy that feeds the south is accumulated. ukraine's goal is to disconnect us from the ap and obvi. in this, the ukrainian army is constantly shelling a nuclear power plant, which is carried out by russian invaders. this is a provocation and a game on the nuclear nerves of the whole world. we have from the fifth to the 16th of august persistently daily with the support of the ukrainian international objective independent press was told by the logic that the russians were shelling the nuclear power plant and suddenly after this meeting i didn’t say that after this, it turns out that the

concept is changing, and they demand that we stop shelling them from the plant’s territory. i'm dmitry. i don't want to see too much in this manifestation, but nevertheless this is one of the reasons to discuss the issue. and did this meeting change, what kind of meeting was it, in your opinion, will it somehow affect these plans. if it affects what because it was that and so on. this is especially important to discuss. today is august 19, when it is not clear whether they freak out or not freak out. erdogan has already made a deal on grain once, despite the fact that there were different positions on this issue. that's one of the rather serious benefits in turkey should be noted erdogan chose next year. he is trying to strengthen his position by the fact that the negotiations took place only 40 minutes. this does not mean that there was no proposal in those 40 minutes presented. yeah the question is how zelensky reacted, this is simply not open either. in fact, of course, he reacted. this is how he should have reacted. this is a negotiation process. not now. this is a crown process for the

future, because you are well aware that in the horizon for about a few weeks, the next, as it were, there will be a plus or minus position, respectively. plus or minus, respectively, the ukrainian side will accumulate in kherson; it is still accumulating in kherson; it cannot attack, because , accordingly, part of the russian magazine forces accumulated under kherson, therefore, accordingly, how everything would rest against this uh contrast, which will not actually be, as we all perfectly understand. here but now, as it were, such a stalemate. well, as a last resort, this week, and in this case, as if everyone, of course, are waiting, as it were. time timings everyone understands perfectly well that in the long run, that is, and this is the so-called confrontation of mutual attrition. here is the prospect, how ukraine is very vague, to put it mildly , so we need to buy gas, gas will have to buy, most likely at 2.500. these are quite large volumes, the same applies to the european union, which, as we are monitoring here, is in a very difficult situation, how could you, that is, in fact, if the situation continues over the winter, er, the terminal consequences of this for everyone parties to this conflict, with rare

exceptions such as china, india will turn out to be very serious, so this proposal is beyond the horizon. this offer is not next week. what is your version of this sentence? here you say a sentence was done. well, let's put it this way. this is to some extent an interpretation of erdogan, to some extent a natural proposal, but ultimately. we can say that this is, as it were, the first step, but towards the negotiation process as a whole, because you understand that it is not going on, in general now, with the exception, as it were, of the economy of exchanging a rug. this is war direction. here, accordingly, how would the countries come out of the sentencing process. here, as if it is not going to. there, as if nothing is going anywhere , the question lies in the other that negotiation positions have changed over these few months, in what fundamental and what, as it were, in the spring is no longer now. uh-huh here and there, as if the government is the following, the problem is that zelensky's situation is quite complicated, as we all perfectly understand, as it were, accordingly, the rating is not declining very much now. naturally, he tries to look skinny. here, therefore, if now he makes such a decision, how could the issue be followed, therefore, from this point of view. he couldn't make that kind of decision right now. naturally he

advocates that going back there to the crimea to everything else simply lies in what will be the negotiation process with a horizon of a month or several months, what will happen after september? that's all the most important question that stands aha, here i remind you that, as it were, the identification of all processes. it can happen exactly, respectively, first the green light leaves, that is, well, look, yes, after all, when we talk about the fact that these are not even negotiations about negotiations about the theoretical possibility of negotiations. yes, like a sentence like a suggestion that maybe there could be negotiations about something. after all, i did not accidentally start with this, but the situation. that is, when we are dealing with e, an entity that behaves absolutely according to patterns, as if terrorist. yes, once violated the agreement, yes, which more than once violate the agreements and it is clear that they are absolutely incapable of negotiating, but nevertheless. um, like in any situation where terrorists take hostages, there are still negotiators who must negotiate with them. and that doesn't mean that the terrorists are going to release them there.

excuse me, and so on, then two parallel processes raise the question that if this horizon is there for a month or a half, then the question arises, if if, within the framework of trade, the only thing terrorists have is to whip up information and not only information foam, the question arises what else can they go in order to strengthen their position in response to something that was offered to them there? well, look already at their level quite state-of-the-art uh people, yes danilov by himself, maybe an idiot, and soon he's holding, but he 's holding a public office in this terrorist entity. listen to what he says. yes. it sounds like absolute show-offs are so cheap, but not only cheap show- offs. let's start with danilov. regarding the question, to what extent is the restoration of borders the goal of ukraine is only complete deopation to the borders of 1991, any territorial

compromise with the kremlin, this war, postponed to the future, today is a chance to break the back of the russian callus on clay feet, you understand, yes, and roughly speaking further on this, yesterday the air defense worked near kerch, it is clear that conversations will begin now, but we will and many of them already had them. yes, we will hit the bridge, and we will hit here and there. we will beat. now the question arises. this is trading and verbal churning of information. how fraught, what can go in their case, in some kind of confirmation of their words. we are all interested in this. look, i just think that, in many respects, the failed counteroffensive on kherson was, uh, the reason why periodically these diversions arise because they heated up public opinion inside ukraine. they heated up public opinion there on those curators who sponsor, at least some victories did not work out, but you must admit that now the focus of public attention. at least in our country, it has shifted, and we rightly ask ourselves

questions about when the line will be redrawn thanks to which, because of which, more precisely, a blow will be struck at the center of the movement. at least in kiev, yes, many are wondering if it’s not overeaten or is it the line is no longer alone. that's it, and you will agree that they succeed, that is, in the information agenda. these conditional mosquito injections, which, of course, do not affect the course of the entire special operation, but which make us think , the second moment works. i treat my colleague with respect. i don’t want to start from a month and a half, and why is the change in zelensky’s rhetoric connected. look at the statement right now. after this meeting, the same gutersh, he said word for word that the territory of the zaporozhye nuclear power plants must be demilitarized. all equipment should be withdrawn from there, no troops, they cannot be stationed there, it says. the secretary general of the organization of young nations and zelensky actually speaks with him in a pair in conjunction. that is, if earlier they were constantly talking about the fact that the russians were shelling now.

by the way, as far as i know, attempts are being made to establish such monitoring with the help of drones yes, with the help of drones , to show that if it arrives on the territory, in fact, energodar, from somewhere, it’s definitely not from the territory that russia controls, their kozyr is knocked out of their hands. what are they doing? they say okay. we will not disperse the topic about the shelling. we will say that the very fact of the presence of russian troops. it's unacceptable there. we demand their withdrawal, we demand the full establishment of full control over the zaporozhye atom power plant in ukraine, and this is said, including by him, that is, the united nations, see, is in full solidarity with the regime zelensky, in other words, in my opinion. again, this is purely, my version has undergone such a reformatting. it was not possible to convince this informational tactic that the russians are so stupid that they themselves want to create a nuclear catastrophe, therefore it is very important for them to create a precedent in which, thanks to the pressure of the international community, the russians will back down there and so on. and once it's

done. yet again. i guess it won't be done, very much. hope it's natural they will back down under pressure from the un and under pressure from and under pressure from the west, and look under pressure, including from other countries, which are also very important, but are closely watching what is happening there at the nuclear power plant. naturally, they won’t succeed, but the very fact that guterysh repeats word for word, and zelensky’s quotes about the need to withdraw troops, that the russians are allegedly trying to concentrate multiple launch rocket systems there, what exactly is the presence of russians who are on actually ensure the safety of this nuclear power plant? yes, it is a threat, that is, in my opinion. this meeting is another sorting out, otherwise they are trying to information strategy. in relation to our country, use it so that our country still seems to be as toxic as possible, but where it is not possible to prove that we are allegedly shelling, we immediately change the agenda and say that we are guilty already by the fact

that we are this territory control. it seems to me that this is the case. it's true, but look, and we're with you. eh, they are discussing very strongly these two tracks that we are discussing, but in fact, the people who are now sitting in front of the tv, and they, of course, are interested, but from the point of view of such a general erudition. here is this information war, stuffing fakes. and where do they crush with fakes, where do they beat? what kind of foam people are watching, of course, but i will just give one example to people, of course, this is also interesting. and this is very useful for them, because the more people follow these fakes. the more. they understand the methodology this terrorist formation, which, it must be said, is very high-quality professionally uses the information sphere, the better. well , i'll give you one example. well, here, for example, uh, so these are the talks about the fact that we are concentrating equipment on the territory there. this station, in fact, these are the shots here in this infamous ruin of ukrainian intelligence, because as soon as i hear ukrainian intelligence, i immediately understand, you know,

we bake ourselves and sell the occupiers at the zaporizhzhya npp placed military equipment and ammunition. yes, there is a person who is in the subject, and this case debunks and debunks in this way, please. my god what dill degenerate. i was in this machine room, personally, i saw everything there, the last photo. i did it myself, climbing onto the crane. this is not military equipment or ammunition of ordinary russian guard trucks. there’s even a typical russian guard tarpaulin gas-3309, it costs white, the military doesn’t have such a thing, the russian guard. there guards the perimeter in the control of the station is not interferes with no tanks, guns or anything. there is no name for another stupid dill video, another proof of this. so it's good for our people? is there a question here? in what who saw the first line, and who will get to this, because you understand from the other side, like this shaft-shaft, it's me again, here i am all the time, the

farther, the more i draw these parallels. well , that is, remember when, uh, in force, this igil, banned on the territory of the russian federation, remember what a wave of discussion played, each of their videos, as they shot them in hollywood studios with hollywood directors. there was a great director director, a picture, and so on and so forth, a number of people experienced this emotional impact. then, in general, it turned out that all this. well, a beautiful picture, behind which there is something, but not really there. but it will be later, and yes, people are watching this for people. this is interesting and important, but for people it is much more important, another track is an attempt to understand, this is their activity in the information space before which grade? is it related or not related to the possibility of real action in support of what they are talking about? yes, you can say, well, of course, they will shell the bridge there, now they won’t dare there, who knows, in your opinion. you, in fact, are analyzing the

connection, as if whipping up informational foam. yes, i don't really understand. i'm very interested to hear your analysis. to what extent does the amount of information foam affect their real readiness, in your opinion, to do something like that? in confirmation, because if we proceed from the fact that that the curators demand results, as nikita sergeevich said, then, in general, the curators can also say at some point. waldemar you are infinitely talented, your guys make such vids. we just, well, maybe something else, because it doesn't work anymore. but all these stuffing is a game in the moment when right now you are throwing out for the first time all the people who do not understand the situation are such aha wow, kherson offensive. we just entered there and all the people who are there think, but do we need to find it. who should we support, uh, these are all fakes, throws this game with the population. yeah, these games, where you choose and all these guerrilla movements. they are warmed up by it. yes, smart people will see. wow. this is really the national guard. and those who are not very aware of the situation will

think so. wow, the russians really find it for the powder. a nuclear power plant is still, uh, psychological games, as in principle, the entire ukrainian regime can be described with a very cool saying. see yaroslav now continue. what do i mean, i don't really understand what we are with we're dealing. see here. eh, well, i don't want to take a real example. well, we have seen, there are a lot of films there about terrorists, well, these situations are from somewhere and in vain is one thing, when the terrorists for the thousand and the first time, if our requirements are not met, we will now shoot someone there, they will bring a person to the camera puts on his knees. and he cries there, this is saliva coming and so on, he is holding a gun and then lately it means the last. warn this once a treasure, and another thing when it's real, well, relatively speaking, there in an hour you will receive a head in an hour you will receive a head, in your opinion. what kind of terrorists are we dealing with, those who are only able to escalate and

are imprisoned for this, and i won’t go further, or those who, as they bargain, can embody some of their e, threats, and on the rise. i think this is something in between the one and the other, because after all, they have not yet come up with anything so grandiose for us, but all sorts of terror of the population like petals to undermine, and partisan movements they they can do it, but it is precisely serious actions, like, uh, their favorite contraceptive from kherson, which did not happen at all, this will not happen. so, it 's something between terrorists and terrorists on twitter who just write write, but sometime some kind of person is like that. yeah, i support, i'm the twitter terrorists and they'll go with them, but it happens. very rarely, so they are more such terrorists on the internet. why am i asking you, because e is objective. yes , i understand, i myself said about it that the worse them at the front, the more their words will be, the more they will puff out their cheeks and speak. i

understand all this, but look at the other side. let's take it. uh, there's a period there 2 months ago. after all , no one could imagine that they would shell a nuclear power plant, no one could imagine. that is, more precisely, there were people who said, listen, as soon as they have the opportunity to fire something like that, they may well start doing it, but 2 months ago. i think the person who said if it were about a nuclear power plant, everyone would say yes. well , you're good at intimidating the population, like, not like, don't irritate the people. petals that fall asleep, donetsk now i'm talking about the fact that, well, it seems obvious and yes, the petals that fall asleep, donetsk, which are prohibited by all conventions. well listen a month two months ago. we talked about shelling. we talked about this terrible everything, but the petals. we could n’t just imagine, because if the shelling has at least some military justification, then this is already just a purely terrorist story, but in their development they went for it, that is, roughly speaking,

a month ago, there 2 months ago. they didn’t scatter the petals, and then me and the people who sit in front of the tv switched to this, they are interested in the trend, what we are dealing with, it is going crazy more and more, not only in words, but also in actions or me. here, very briefly, there is such a concept as the level of tolerance, not sociological, but from the sphere of medicines. yes, that's the case with this nazi regime. in my opinion. uh, there was one big mistake on our part. now i will say such a critical version. yes, but it seems to me that this is important. at that moment, when the cream was immediately collected at that moment, at the moment when on april 13, our representative of the ministry of defense kanashenkov, after the shelling of belgorod kursk , announced that such a practice would lead to the fact that we let's hit the center to make a decision, including in kiev, that there are wise men who start to say that you will hit washington there, no, we have performers who are sitting in kiev one way or another and paralyze the system

of public administration. whoever says anything to me can be for some time if there are no specific performers in the form of zelensky prime ministers and so on and so forth, despite the fact that all of them, of course, under their supervision, uh, puppet as they want. so here is the level of tolerance. artyom is right, you noticed from the point of view of the trend. every time it rises, see first the shelling of kursk belgorod yes, then the drg, then outright terrorist attacks. now crimea is very important, what did the rhyme say undermining the kursk power line, what did it say? we promised the americans. we were asked not to shell with the help of rso heim from the territory of russia, but america does not consider crimea the territory of russia, respectively, we now see what is happening in crimea and in this regard, the shelling of a nuclear power plant. and god forbid any other incidents on our territory. this is all a consequence of the impunity of what is at a particular moment. in my opinion. this level of tolerance should have been lowered as much as possible, because at some point let's carefully recall the situation in march and april, they were afraid

of the delegations of lviv to come. in general, zelensky said that i am now going out in public , this may be my last appearance. now this is the impunity of the theoretical regime. in my opinion, she provokes them, you know, i will say very much now. just a little, maybe too much. uh, vulgar and youthful there is such a meme on the internet. what will you do to me? i am in another city and sends another person. here about now the same thing is happening, because these petals. and these acts of sabotage, after which i'm sorry, this is also very important after our statement that there will be an answer, but there is still no answer, they provoke them even more at this level. yes, check this red line, in my opinion. the trend should be stopped, i do not agree, but i remind you that in march, in fact, the troops were stationed near kiev and therefore, accordingly, there were questions related to how much it makes sense to be there after the first phase, the situation has fundamentally changed fundamentally, the question is different is red,

the line, of course, these red lines are present, respectively, they have to be built, as it were , too, and i partially agree that individual representatives do not hold them will be fair. that is, as it were, respectively, when heavy equipment was transported. i said that it is necessary to disassemble the piece of iron, at least, respectively, as a station, so as not to simply give accumulation. all this was not the accumulation was made, as we all perfectly understand, this made it possible to overtake, respectively, the same searches for tanks safely under the same kherson, by the way, that's why they are physically there, there are 200 something. here i am modernizing, but anyway, here, that is, how it all happened. it's just something else . let's understand now. right now we are in the situation we are in. ah, respectively, the first, of course, all questions would be removed by, respectively, military actions. well, as a matter of fact, if you took the comator from the inglorious now, there would be no problems with the energy-gift, of course, there would be no problems, of course , you understand, yes, that is, the problem lies in the fact that what i just think is that if you took the kramatorsk , slavyansk, the problems with the zaporozhye nuclear power plant could be even stronger, because they would also need this loss with something. as

they say, there are issues of information loss. and there are several issues of concentration of weapons, that is, the problem is this, if you correspondingly forced the tempo of it. you act, as it were, accordingly, if, naturally, the process of breaking a very long, long time does not occur, you do not create a situation in which, accordingly, with an answer to you, it starts, respectively, of this particular type of action, it is clear that they are caused even more by military components , paradoxically, but the economic component of them has a problem in economic timings precisely in winter with everything else, that is, there are chaining varieties. that's all and the european council, which begins roll back as if from support. they are now accumulating the rest of the money for you, respectively, they are getting 800 for fuel, and they need 15 billion. this is not the military component, if now the military component were fundamental in all directions. naturally, a principled wife. we discussed it differently in this studio, we didn’t guess, most likely, if the situation the question is different is the question is now the following, what is against this background naturally, there is an attempt to remove as much as possible in the information component and the main task is to remain in the information box. they didn’t have it, by the way, due to the fact that there was an

accumulation, including under kherson, respectively, the contour. on simply, it would be very meaningless, but how would they say, in this case, how would there be very serious last and another very important point, but suppose for a second, what would happen if god forbid, respectively, we fucked up, for example, because there, respectively green. he would become a banner, the next would be a pledged still deep question, how would someone be more dangerous , you know, if he became a banner that would be buried at a depth of two meters, then there may be such knowledge and point of view that she was with points of view. count even more. the viewpoint is different with us, respectively it is a martyr. this is an information field. everything will warm up. immediately with all the fact that the main operational department zaluzhny came, damn, the hostage that you immediately, as if i would take everything away and i would not hold it for a long time, i would not experience a special problem with the severodonetsk, an arc with the entire northern donetsk loop, that is, the problem lies in the following check of the clock, but if you want to inflict damage and thus limit various actions with this damage. so you choose sensitive areas that can really affect it. if for you, look at the european

one, then the very fact you have their economy, you have caused this damage to the people. naturally, he immediately reduced the supply of heavy weapons and economic support. they just figured out how canada and the united states are being damaged on it, so they are delivered. it’s clear where your points are not always located on the territory of ukraine, i understand, but look really. yes, actually, uh, here. eh, where did we get to, what did you kind of take us to? this is really. again, returning to the fact that we are dealing with a terrorist entity that behaves outside the frame, as a rule, but countering it. you need to always look for a balance where you remain a state, because we say that here there is a terrorist hornet's nest. we are a state concerned about our security. we are solving this problem, and then the question arises that terrorists will always behave like terrorists, and the conditional law enforcement officers, who in this case are we, have much stricter limits. listen, well, any terrorist until the moment he sits with the hostages. he is the target. and i

'm sure that every sniper is just sharpening his teeth to take it off, but without an order he can't, yes, he can't, because there is no order, but exactly at that the moment when they took him and put him with his face into the ground of a terrorist, terrorists become what a terrorist becomes procedural, which means an object in relation to which the rights of the rule must be respected, and so on, this is how the state differs from the gang, and in this sense. i emotionally agree with a lot of what nikita sergeevich says, but our difficulty lies in absolutely agreeing, but our difficulty is beyond. i agree from here, but are they standing here? yes, i say, our difficulty lies in the fact that we have to behave like a state. and when we listen to what guteris says about the fact that the iaea will come to control something there. we, as people, understand that this is called power steering information noise, what can i say? when there's nothing to say? well, just listen to him. the un secretariat, in close contact

with the iaea, came to the conclusion that in ukraine we have the capabilities in the field of logistics and security, so that the iaea mission could travel to the zaporozhye nuclear power plant from kiev, subject to the consent of russia and ukraine, you understand, that is, kuterrash says in fact, but he is general un secretary and we can tell ourselves a thousand times sitting in front of the tv what kind of nonsense he is talking about. what is the consent of ukraine and russia between ukraine and russia there is no negotiation process there are no points of contact, and he says, that is, you know, in principle, uh, you can save the earth if you find water on mars well, well, well done, handsome are there any other versions? well, no, i suggested this one, like, act, and the brothers are working, but you need to do the same. eh, with this, you need to somehow, uh, well, we must still with this the situation and how, yes, he we will match and so on. here and from this. ah, closed situation. i do not understand how to get out that we have just watched this

story, because it explains a lot, in particular. what is the difficulty in combating this terrorist entity, as we are talking about, it seems to me that of course , despite the fact that it bears all the signs of a terrorist entity. we need to understand how this is different. and there is a fundamental difference. i will now explain from that terrorism under the sign, which actually began with us the xxi century on september 11 alka and yes, then the islamic state. then you understand, then he gave a mandate to fight terrorism. and now there has actually been a fusion. you see, the coalition of a terrorist organization and when a terrorist coalition is created, then there was an anti-terrorist coalition. and now the terrorist coalition. and this is a much more difficult task. you understand, this is the fundamental one. i agree. so, this is the fundamental difference and additional fundamental complexity, because roof everything because on the one hand , they must act as a sane state,

which is a member of the un and un cooperation on the other hand. we see that he is in this situation. well, as you put it, but if you put it that way , then even more so to me. eh, god himself ordered to cover this story, or at least flirt with this ukraine. yesterday i brought this situation up well, namely the roof. and you are like this. look, i brought this situation up yesterday. yes, imagine, amaze from this history of ukraine ukraine and zaporozhye station. yes and we do not recognize this whole conflict. take rather north korea does not recognize south korea north korea considers south korea to be a regime that occupies the southern part of them, so to speak, the communist kind, which means there are nuclear power plants in south korea. you can imagine a situation in which north korea says something to us, these southern cinnamon, that they shoot artillery in their barrel artillery. wait for it to be shot there, the north will be hammered at the south korean nuclear power plant and the whole world will say something

i need to go with kimmerson and kim jong il to talk. hmm, yes, i need to, and what will north korea say, this is a south korean, they fired at themselves? uh-huh they are like you can imagine that in this situation someone will go to kim chanyru, which means that kim jong s will sit there for something. here it is in the costumes of kim jong yr, it will come out, which means, what kind of kimono is there, it means that cigars are impossible. times was e in south korea and i know that even in south korea such things are not expected from north korea, because the united states really represents north korea as the irresponsibility of untethering terrorism, but nevertheless , in north korea, for all the specificity of the north korean system, there is still, well , responsible politicians who understand that there are some things of the state with a peculiar form and management and ideology, but the state. i did not have time to

say, here we asked a question. why here you asked the question is actually the key why even we are here it would seem that nothing can surprise us. why are we surprised yet we did not think that a month ago 2 months ago this could happen, but let's be surprised that the reaction to this is not at all what we expected, that is, it actually supports. uh, nikita spoke about the fact that there is tolerance, i would say in a simple way, just the brakes on the car failed. i once found myself in a situation where i had brakes. i was horrified, and these people have failed their brakes, but they get some masochistic pleasure. from this, you understand, they are rushing into the abyss, they notice well . this is the main thing to say. well, they didn’t listen, because, for example, one of them, for example, a car with failed brakes is correct, but the fact is that zelensky in his slippers and in a t-shirt knows or at least believes that he is not driving a car without brakes, and he is a stuntman. and when he goes into the abyss, there will be boxes or an

awning will be stretched, but all the rest. yes, god bless him yaroslav in this sense. eh, really. here very interesting topic from the point of view. well, here are our ideas about what is possible, what is impossible what, well, how, how, how what do you react to. well, you work a lot with information, and so on. yes, in this sense, in your opinion, we are changing or we need to go somewhere. i have a feeling that we have many people. here's to this fast-paced. this is the madness of the information is not ready. and you can prepare for this. well, to say, the guys there, yes, you really are now here are the flowers. but there will be berries. there are none, you can't prepare for it. all this has to do with human understanding. bye. and it won't bite you personally, it won't hurt you. you will think that why did we even start it like this, for example, i myself am from belgorod and it was in belgorod that is, while somewhere there was shooting far away everyone thought, well, what about the ukrainians? well, everything is bad, when once i flew to belgorod very strongly. i was at this

mass shelling so very hard and in belgorod everything absolutely changed people's understanding they say, yes, we were wrong, now we need to do it this way, what is happening, it confirms our correct intention that we did it, but it doesn’t prove it. information changes very quickly, for sure, and not all of me keep up with it. and that you need to be in time enough to delve into. oh, and here, seeing the question is that not everyone keeps up and not everyone wants to keep up. here you said some, but some get bored, some get bored, and some did not want to take it. i here uh a few times during my trips uh dpr, and just now you are paying attention to the liberated territory of ukraine, including through your region. well, the closer you get to the border, the more cars you have with convicts in the belgorod region on the border, where it’s impossible to see a car without a z at all. no, it’s possible to see a car without this vee on it, or oh, it’s impossible, you understand, and

in this sense, but perhaps zelensky can afford to drive like that, because they are using the right methods or the wrong methods. they are at home. here is this degree. well let's say mobilization and information, and they seemed to be able to do it, and therefore, as they say, he is lying, what is called not redder? yes, and he understands that they will buy their own, because he brought his own to this situation, they are flowing, because they are roofing. well, here, let's hear one more statement, please. no, there are no objective barriers to prevent the mission of magot from getting to the zaporozhye npp today with mr. guterish we discussed the details of this mission and the fact that it can very quickly and quite safely get to the plant legally through the free territory of our state, and only in this way, the one who arranged the nuclear blackmail definitely cannot be the transporter of any such missions, russia must immediately and unconditionally allow the representatives of the iaea to the station and also.