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so, as specialists, soviet people are interesting fishing, interesting heavy fishing. you are not all the answer, it means you are lucky, lucky, and every evil requires atonement, and i did evil. here, first of all, the hand voted condemned the enemies of the people, the house was built together to answer. this is the only way to self-respect, and in order to live a life of dignity in this self-respect, and with
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respect to yourself to people, rather than to survive with you. that's right, remember the difference. were strongly people it was especially dangerous no one knew him name in the last run. he was caught without documents, this man accounted for 17 corpses and he turned the murder into a philosophy. well, how are you a doctor?
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well, this is going to be history. then you can't pull it out with pliers. well then tell me about me. i can't end the meaning of life with myself. weak oh, funny. kill only those who are weaker than me afraid. boring paradox. self-assertion is the only thing i have left.
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this is good, only it turns out that our whole life is with you. here, no one will definitely pay a person. hardness maybe. be careful
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chika all the only way out asterisk one of the most important lessons of the lessons of consistent
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service to the body courage and stamina i got the former head of the zone now a prisoner sidorenko prisoner sidorenko to me i want to tell you the most pleasant news. sidorenko, a prisoner under the last amnesty, is under the last amnesty. what's wrong with you? prisoners - this is an example.
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soviet power stands on the truth. truth will not be lost behind soviet power. urgently file the case in the first part. so that today a citizen sidorenko in the city of his daughter nadezhda ostap i wish you health and happiness in life. say hello to nadezhda ostap and all the best to me.
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i will remain such a yakbul. ponytail treason did not. citizen chief i convicted and amnesty acceptance, then we can not who is guilty? i do not ask for freedom. i demand the restoration of the honorable name of a soviet man and a communist. sidorenko
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to be with me in forty-seven. comrade abakumov will speak to you , hello , dmitry alexandrovich
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learned to joke gratifying? you know, dzerzhinsky square very good. what is the name of the boulevard? to the left of the big opera in paris, boulevard des veterans is fine. we have decided to take you through the amnesty. you are the right person. today you can dine in the metropolis. in a week in paris this is a receipt for a crime i didn't commit. lead those people to the square. it's all a suspect and that's the only reason they're on the other side of this side of the suspects. no, there are only
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guilty people. citizen chief give me amnesty it is forbidden. you can only appoint a new investigation and justify. i offer you freedom and work, or are formalities and trifles so important to you. virgo in trifles colonel sukhanov, he alone is crazy dmitry alexandrovich, now already 75. well, you have long been
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freed, but what's my question? you are not the first year. work here in it as a scientific consultant, translator, the benefit is significant, but here's what is very interesting to me. all these years they have been looking for a solution to the betrayal of the meanness of the loss and all this. i lived in cruel. hard and great time in spite of everything, the
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best years of my life are connected with work in intelligence. after all, i worked for the good of the motherland. fulfilling my duty as a patriot of russia i believe that i have lived a good life and i am ready to live it in the same way again. dmitry bystroletov soviet intelligence agent
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he can safely be called one of the brightest and most controversial artists on the russian music scene. he always longed for freedom and was extremely sincere in this precisely for this sincerity and his team fell in love with the sound to him, which became popular in the distant eighties of the past century. so i'm flying away, bye. tatsia, but his talent
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appeared not only in music, he is an amazing dramatic artist, every role of the event, they say about him that he lives life with his hero father. hear, damn my father left to whom. come back father by all the people's sea. at the age of 45, the artist radically changed his life from the center of bustling moscow, he, along with his wife, olga and children, moved to live in the village and almost completely retired from the world. devoting himself to vera alone with everyone, actor, poet and musician pyotr mamonov
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thank you very much for getting out. for the last 20 years you have been living far from moscow in a village called efanova da for 45 years. i have a cousin, a builder, he says, i have a hectare of pine on my plot. and i say, i've been on tverskaya all my life where did i come to the village for? i julia looked there, got up, all the cases came. that's it. i think this is where i'm going to lie. that's how it happened. and now, when you come to moscow, you have to. i very rarely travel. i drive, mainly the route i have is a vinyl record store. this i already know eyes closed, how to go where? traffic light and
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moscow what impression do you think? it’s good that you don’t live here, you understand what’s the matter, that somewhere is a city, somewhere faces, somewhere a noisy capital. and we have water flowing on a hill from a spring and a river flows below, moscow is generally my favorite city, but the city is people i love these people very much, the horror that sometimes we see it is on our streets , but it is still very external . it's all such foam, but i know that anyway in my city at 7:00 in the morning people get up and sit in trolleybus going to work this is moscow i wanted to know, here is a wide audience of you, how the actors know thanks to the films of pavel lungin starting from the very first film taxi blues and the last picture, and the island and the tsar why did pavel lungin bribe
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your heart? this children's friendship worked, first, children's friendship we were friends with families. my mother was a translator of scandinavian fiction. and his mother was engaged in the same craft, and we already knew each other as families . he was a little older than me and is. here and we led approximately the same way of life before, as we lived in the center of pushkin everything. did we know everyone who lives where? uh-huh now mystery city. this means that you have trust in the people you grew up with. we are just like-minded people first and foremost. we are like-minded people. do you know how it is? they say about spouses that love. it's not when we look at each other. and when we look in one direction, and what side is a poet, we all said
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good feeling, i am lyra and awakened friendly relationship, because in general, the whole life has passed ah-ah together, at least all sorts of graphic life. we are very different from him. in general, they don’t look like any, like two people look alike. we somehow complement each other and there is such a feeling that we are together with him, in some fever, which in general is no longer afraid of anything, to which there is nothing like this complementarity. it seems to me that it is. the principle of our cooperation is a very talented person, very bright, strong, imposing the seal on everything around the personality, and he, as it were, does not
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break under the surrounding world, but rather imposes on him, in general, his own look from his desires. well, he is a dictator, you know, i saw when we were filming that i saw that i saw dictations in him, the profile of ivan the terrible and his fortune. she was terrible and saw that even when he was in the form of an old man. anatoly tried to do good, or what people? i saw how he was intolerant of wrathers too time. well, how to say archaic nature to give, as if in general the whole of the 15th century invited act in a taxi in an illusion. you then did not think at all, probably about the direction of such that you can act in films there, in the theater i lived and live
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all the time. you know what's the matter. what is it? in my case, the rocks scene is often scolded, that this lesson is obliged and that's all there is, it is a very confessional art. and there you can even be a little skillful. but if you are honestly sincerely sincerely from the bottom of your heart all our heroes that hang that god's yuri shevchuk all who are first of all extremely sincere people are good poets, but also that such a poet it is this is the world and and and i i go here a little thin, therefore the world, therefore terrible, therefore, therefore shining to everyone. and here it works in some miraculous way. it pretends everything in the text of the concerts in the film does not matter. genre - is it a letter or is it happening and
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i love people and i am very sick of this life, and i also worry about me. when something really happens , as herzen said. although he said a lot of things, we are not doctors, we are pain. on you in general did you find out how such? well, raging rebel i would say. well, here, i'm even crazy just what bank is impossible to understand. what was the protest against? and you look at the chronicle of 64 63 years. uh, they're all wearing matching gray coats, caps, and blue pants. and i got dressed. you know how i had such a grandfather's leather raincoat around my neck, i had a terry towel white trousers, if i sewed them from just not and glasses. i had like john lennon and there was a toilet chain on the handle and
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a handle behind my ear, and here i was walking like sixty- fourth. yeah, i immediately cleaned you up along gorky street, well, they didn’t manage to do it right away for a while walk down the street who composed this costume. is that what you think? i completely began my artistic career in front of a mirror with the fact that i danced in front of my grandmother's mirror, and i thought this way and that, now she just left me then. dance twist shake, these are all movements. i rehearsed my parents. this, i think, scared the parents pretty much. this is a very special article. i want to talk about them. e hmm. my mother was a translator of fiction , as i said, and my father was a scientist scumbag. but that's not even the point, that us was. in general, a good income and a strong
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family. the fact is that mom and dad loved each other all their lives. they told me sometimes to listen , you can't spend the night with friends today. we want to be alone when they were already 60. and i just lived next to this love with this attitude. no need. i had nothing to explain, how a man should, how a woman should, and i should from and that 's all i saw how it happens. and it put me in a terrible position, because i saw how wrong i was. why, in fact, because he has aged alcohol some children fights the person is damaged initially and you know
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how about the wise, that diseases are inherited not only physical yes, some hearts or livers, but also spiritual as well. it means in the chain of those generations that were before me. well, the first who was adamych here, who, like elovich, who, uh, she says give back to the nugger, yes, yes in me in my youth and i clearly see, a clouded mind. you absolutely know today there are such arguments that it is believed that this kind of manifestation in a teenager begins such a family, dysfunctional children. and you think that there is nothing like that and in spite of it happens and everything happens. i lived at one time in a monalka, and i had very strong,
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drinking neighbors there. yes, and misha was like that. he knocked me all night. i wanted to shut myself up philosopher, bearded. come on, open up, i'm with and then i drank something i had a year. i didn't drink, and i didn't drink with him, and he was interested in me. he knocked on my door, that i locked myself there, so, and his son was wonderful and there is probably oleg who, having seen enough of this all the horror for everyday this nightmare did not drink. in general, it never happens, and so the girl committed a terrible sin, and therefore they must prove it, which means i will again become my beloved wife. that's all for you, i'll take care of you in anything you will not be denied by the girl's godfather.
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in my house i will not tolerate the execution of someone else's evil will, if a person has not learned to be grateful, he does not know that the gratitude of the recipient multiplies the gifts of the giver. my wife will never give me a cookie. peter mamonov tried to interact with it there. here i know that my mother once on the refrigerator. yes, because there were communal apartments and every refrigerator was closed for key. and when i didn’t work, but only took it from there, mommy just took it and closed it, and i went to work 3 days later. there is a desire to eat, there is a desire, and then they
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brought up offended. she kicked me out of the house, sat for three days, she suffered, poor thing, where am i hanging around. yes, with such still with such with these these habits. but she thought that it was necessary for some boorish. the act we had with her were quarrels of reconciliation with tears. i remember this for the rest of my life, how i stole a ten from my grandmother from the closet, and we went with a friend for 5 years, we bought petrovsky passage the pistols with him are beautiful and red, as i sing songs for 5 years, when you stole yes, i started early i started earlier, i finished earlier, so we bought pistols for 5 rubles. beautiful and red gun tape as i sing songs. so mom made me
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go to the saleswoman and give it with tears and a pistol to say that i stole the money. well , of course, i didn’t manage to say that i stole the money, but i remember this scene, how i was in a stream of tears. i remembered for the rest of my life for the rest of my life i can't. and how is it fear and shame when i did, firstly, it's embarrassing, and then later. now i already understand what's the matter, that i bring grief to another person. and you, er, since you consider such a new report of your life from the age of 45, yes, and you carry a feeling of guilt before your parents, of course, of course, but the lord told us your sins will be. as crimson killed as snow. that is, what is repentance and this change of god's forgiveness of sin
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becomes not the former at 55 years old. i already squeezed my father's hand and we looked into each other's eyes already as two. associate, like two real men this look, i remember until now until now, he is with me. that's how it's healthy, because that's but 55 the sin was not what you had in your youth was like that. in general, a very terrible case when in a fight at your particular period. yes, well, you are glorified in the song of vladimir vysotsky. you almost died in this fight. it can't be there. something before sex did not reach theoretically. these are the events in life. yes, they can also become turning points when a person survives. he says, lord, for the third day there was a beer bar across the road from ufa. who remembers
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on the third day after this terrible operation? i have already gone to the fires, disabled people without a queue. the nightmare is still amazing that in this fight that such a detail took place that you, as a matter of fact, were stuck with a file. and you managed to catch up, trolley bus. so climb to push the door to break the offender, and only after that you know. what kind of energy is this to take revenge on energy, stupid such energy would be in the right direction, if i also prayed to god, i would move mountains. is it possible to say that you did not find a contact? the one when you were young, it was fashionable, and it was fashionable to be such a fracture to exist. yes, they just appeared and it was fashionable. anti, as we did,
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we took bottles of galvanized water, sat down on pushkinskaya on the ground, shook the water and poured passers-by one uncle, says why are you doing this, guys, to bring the townsfolk out of a state of thoughtless hibernation ? that's how it was here, and at the age of 11 we went. uh, there was such a cafe north there was such a current before the hippie beatniks. and so they sat. there, for some reason, they were not driven away, a huge dirty chest was fashionable to be very dirty to be dirty, to stink of the beatniks. these heaps of bearded beatniks were sitting on semolina porridge shoes, and we didn’t dare to go inside through the glass door
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, looked at them and i remember, now i’m thinking, here i’ll be like this well, it came true. this is a conscious choice, this is the desire of fashion, then i wanted to be the coolest, then it played on the plus. that is, at the age of 45 i realized that there was no need for me to live, in general, i have a wonderful job, a wonderful wife. children money. lost my meaning, i didn't understand why i was in the morning i’m standing, and i would like to be with the coolest, i began to search, and i found god when it became like this for me, the lord revealed himself to me. let's think. what will we do on thursday if we die on wednesday?
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one real question, i began to think about what it is for this what kind of god is this, let's deal with it hard, and i ran in the opposite direction there is such, maybe a warning at your expense that you are such a little person. but when, uh, the shooting was, for example, what is the island, uh, something more reigning, it was so dense partnership was there with e his ivanovich yankovsky. you found it easily. eh, can you imagine what a happiness oleg ivanovich yakovskiy jeweler is. kuznetsov’s bath, we’re sitting weak, they set a separate table for us to eat. i say yur and they brought it to me first and a piece is better than why he says this to you, but because everyone knows that you are a capricious and unpleasant person, such communication
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consisted of. excuse me yuliya, i’ll say abek now, ivanovichi, oleg ivanovich first of all gave us such a master class of life as it is now expressed always smooth, loving kind smart. and you, when he left, just pulled out a piece, when you work, sometimes there are some. it’s just, well, remember some quarrels about his inability, how on this bridge, when he says to sing all this execution. look at me, i look at him, i say, take it easy, now in bumps head says fugitive vani here dragged. but what and never anything let's get it fast. now we will listen to you and continue to talk. we met in the ninety-first. well, somehow immediately
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became related to him. he is a very understanding person. in order to understand him, it is not at all necessary to try to ask him there to find out something, you have to be near him, he is an autonomous phenomenon. cultural energetic intellectual phenomenon , it needs to be studied, you can especially create an institution for some kind of mother, but there are pushkinists must be momanists, this is fire and flame. it 's impossible. i'm afraid that we are very similar to our uh. we are very uh in different as we are on different planes of reality. we are from two different realities. just one subject divided into two by two realities are considered to be. uh, what actually nikolaevich me training is a complex person. this is bullshit. it was nikolaevich who achieved the divine utter simplicity. uh, he doesn't
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like it at all. he loves a person admires a person. and he teaches to be a man, probably, he does not always succeed in this, but nevertheless. here in the life of e, it is very simple, both while maintaining a certain piteta and taking its form. e games. uh, he's pretty easy to talk to, he doesn't have second third plans. absolutely their first is very solid. why do you know this? lead as aspen cole okay achieves immediately in reality, actually? nastya revolves around all this, that is, no difficulty. there is no need to behave like a human being with him. this is the main thing that he requires in relation to himself. well, such good words that, but regarding your simplicity , this is the right consideration, you seem to yourself a simple person or dear. uh, beloved saint
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saxirin said such a thing, great simplicity is beautiful, so forgive me mile-miles before. here, but i try, and let's say household simplicity c you are comfortable living today is not easy. yes, it’s still torn somewhere, only it’s torn there, so i’m busy with such subtle things. it's not that i'm busy with things that are more underlined there. it's just such a job, that the whole world works and you have to live openly there, otherwise you will give away, you take everything and everything and everything is nasty. and you walk with it and live with it, and then something comes out of it, therefore, your wife is generally a martyr. not so, she has spent all the money wrong. i'm right. here, this is the most terrible position. i'm right. that's it, shut up
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i sit, i locked myself up, i sit for a day or two, but i believe god in every his word, my mind beats and says not so wrong, not right, not so wrong, come forward. go through yourself, i open it, i take the door. what kind of kintso i say, olechka here is ken through himself, what is happening, in half an hour divine light fills me. uh-huh i'm going after this is a commandment. and when i fulfill the commandment, god himself comes to meet me, and i think why i was a goat for 3 days, the opinion of most people is not so important for me. my childhood is mom's love. i trust only to god pyotr mamonov we got married somehow without much
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awareness, as i would say, i went on stage in a plaid jacket and with a guitar and she was sitting on the floor in the hall. and that's how she looked at me. i understand she is mine. i conquered, like a male, give how he walks a peacock, it turns out that the female does not have a tail, but the male has something to attract. as they say, an important topic, you know, a completely different goal was to create a family with power. now she is so beautiful. she was my ballet. legs are all slags, that is, the possession of power, a separate apartment from the parents of power. and marriage is to build a house church, so that the husband is a priest and the
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wife is a deacon. and the children are the people of god who need to be converted to christ, since your marriage took shape before your turning point age of forty-five years, you, uh, such a beauty, that means that you saw from the stage. somehow you were in no hurry to take her even to the registry office of the story especially. and what were they afraid of losing the free? there didn't seem to be any. i lived every day and that's it. it. come on, let's take off, then 2,000 the second, it seems that we got married, of course, that's how we got married. the lord began to give strength to us for it is this rule that is a feat. actually, it's a very difficult life. you know that monasticism and marriage are considered equal paths. in the kingdom of heaven you see again. it depends on what goal we set, when i set the goal of sweetness, everything
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fell apart, when i set the goal of preparing for a future life, everything began to change, but in everyday life a person is adapted or you don’t understand anything, my mother taught me everything, that is, you yes, i i can, so i can wash, i can clean, and i make shelves. i make cabinets. i am whatever you want. and olga at some point became your such, uh, administrator, manager, burdens yourself , not because you don’t know anything, don’t understand anything. i earned everything. you know how much money the stagnation worked there, i 1,000 rubles. in a month i made that money, when the car cost five, i worked as a journalist in the pioneer, and then i got something else
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for 78 rubles. let's go one piece a month. i say, come on, it doesn't happen. yes, i say, let's go, i come to the director of the bathhouse, he says so, and you worked as a journalist and in the bathhouse publishing house of truth. you will not regret it, the attendant is beer, vodka to eat a dressing gown, just without a queue, this is a constant gain. oh god, rubles are pouring. so significantly changed becoming on the road. well, i think they definitely have changed. the vector has definitely changed. yes, how did your relationship with children settle down, did you consider yourself to be so to say, uh, you should, uh, somehow it’s not difficult to educate them, the fillings don’t grow
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oranges, so the children inherited everything that wasn’t good for you, for example, i’m a hard-working person vanya i have. well, everything about everything the rest is the same wind, but some kind of educational process was on your part you tried. tried, of course, but little to do. we have one question, what to do? so, if the children lost as much time as they didn’t give them so much, now they need to pray for them, and you think it’s necessary, in general, i don’t think, and i don’t think dodo what i did when i , uh. i have my pushkinskaya there, my girls are all sitting there, everything is generally an arrow there with us. well , what did we do, ivan, your son, worked together on films and the king, and he, yes, this is what
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experience, when together with a very useful, first of all, what one thing does. and that we are together for this period of time. but the child's father. this is just a huge amount until the age of 7, children listen and hear only what their parents say to them, therefore, but what am i , uh, my mother raised me, so for me it was, as it were, very warm relatives, and i knew how it is being done. when mom, i, here are books and something needed there, we talked together there, discussed some issues, tried to be their friend, but then again i used to everything and they dragged me these hospitals and that's it. here's an honor to them and the words to my family that they never
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betrayed me, so whatever happened. whatever civil strife between us may be, our love is here in this it is loyalty to each other, we are faithful to each other. i respect his opinion very much. so i really listen to his opinion. here, as it were, to his thoughts, because it is clear that he experienced all this in his lifetime. experienced a lot. he fought, he always gave us, as if freedom of choice, freedom, thoughts will never fail us punished, even when we did some stupid things. so it never happened. no submission. there was no swearing. he gave us, as it were, the choice to choose the path of our lives and the path of our affairs. he just periodically explained periodically, as if showing that he could get out of this because of this
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because of this, but his mood, when we lived together, of course, as in any family, we depended on children and wife. we have such wonderful friendly relations with peter nikolaevich. so i'm very glad that he loves his children's grandchildren so much dr. nikolaevich amazes with his erudition. in general, in relation to all questions, that is, this surprisingly subtle, well-read, constantly analyzing, thinking, thinking person in relation to all completely life events of nikolaevich is always a-a. such subtle jokes are very relevant here, which on the one hand. yes, they always make it possible to understand what is happening, yes, that is,
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how would you say something, here pyotr nikolaevich will definitely fly pasha. kind of subtle. maybe it really is. only through some time will be. understood yes, but always very subtly and the sense of humor is very good. they confuse me. yes, it's hard for you to hear good things about yourself. well, because lately, with god's help, outwardly it has become not a burden to succeed. but inside, anything can happen, but we will fight , grandchildren, grandchildren, such a scene, which means that after the bath i tend to go out to the bench. it ’s just not like that i lie down on a bench and lie. it's just that there 's such a big one in the wall, and a smaller one came to the grandson
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. and they already have some there, you know he is already restless towards her, so i hear the edge of the fly, the sights. and it is true that your wife was married to an englishman before meeting you. and now he was her first husband. no, she was married to a poet such as seryozha , a version about the englishman john john kharishin, who lives across the house now from us there, it was not her boyfriend. never no. he was her possessor of hands and hearts. i took it from him. here next to you. uh, when my cousin was three years old, yes, the village
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, toilet paper, yawn, 1990 similar to a trolleybus in it a certain amount of space, pyotr mamonov did not give their children. did it somehow work on the grandchildren to slightly change this situation, i answer, the picture is cartoons from morning to evening cartoons, like now everything is a common problem. i'm grandfather there at the dacha in the village, i go around cartoons. i walk around disfiguring children, that i can throw the tv out of the socket, unplug everything , turn off the current. i think no, how can it be ? let every evening a fairy tale in the faces of everything you can not, then endure the cartoons. that's
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all. that's all. and what can you do there together since i know a fairy tale, i’m all saints of christ, but i don’t know to teach, for example, there, they chopped firewood, it’s easy, please, yes, that’s why we are with him and the tools we disassemble there and that's it. here in the first grandson he was a small first and we worked with him all day when he was two years old. he and i just built a workshop for myself and there we laid out the tools, drilled for metal on wood, everything and as soon as he did not come. i say let's go, he says, let's go . now we will give him time so it happened to coincide. the younger did not match less time since the elder. i have a much closer relationship than with balance. you know, there in the workshop. i myself was
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passionate and and with him did it, you know, and now i'm going to pretend that i'm passionate, i'm not passionate. it's hard work hard work, but the most important thing is to bring people to the faith by uh, we go to church together, we don't go often. here i am trying in some convenient way. in general they are not out. now you will have to endure and resent a little more, because we will listen to your grandchildren. she is very busy with him there, as it were. studios and he is preparing himself for a concert there from the very beginning. well i have it now above part of the time, like
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talking, when he lets us play drums, he's got a drum kit and chairs and electric guitars and speakers and consoles and everything . well, we often go to church with him, we play football with him in the meadow, and also play basketball. we play grandfather. teaches me how to play the drums. i composed something myself, i play, we answer the new year. so, in short, we put a christmas tree, then gifts under it, and then every time we tell some kind of rhyme or play something and everyone listens to it, and then we open the gifts grandfather. we we love you very much. we will come to you soon. so it's a drum kit. now actualized your relationship very quietly. here it knocks perfectly
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to him, then this is the growing up super new sounds. lord no, you would not like to meet your grandchildren on stage, for example, a russian artist, here, uh, it doesn’t matter at all, someone by profession, it matters some people. thank you very much peter nikolaevich what happened to this family does not fit into the usual stereotypes. julia is married. for many years, the couple dreamed of children, but a serious health problems left them practically no chance. the doctors' verdict was disappointing, either adoption or surrogacy, which
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yulia and her husband could not afford, were saved by their mother yulia elena at the age of 54. she became a surrogate mother of her own grandson, enduring and giving birth to a wonderful boy, kirill alone with everyone elena snegur and her daughter yulia sokolova hello dear yulia elena is glad to welcome you to our studio and would like to thank you for what, in general, you decided and share with us so extraordinary by chance, but as i understand it, up to a certain point you didn’t just hide it, but didn’t really advertise it, as it were, such a situation that arose in your large family. we didn't hide. we are just those who were interested, he knew. uh-huh those who were not interested, of course, didn’t go to me and, well, they didn’t shout to every corner that this is our situation and mom. we have a
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child with us. uh-huh and that's why, in fact, such a decision was made. it was a purely financial matter, which was impossible otherwise. solve. this problem was mom's suggestion, look, how do you like that? in general, it occurred to me , to offer myself as, so to speak, a surrogate mother for my own grandson or granddaughter, then it was unknown. well looking at how they want kids. and you know that i have health and i bore my children without problems. i thought that i could, but still, you know, there are very different impressions, so to speak, but we are of age, i think there is some kind. well, i don’t know, there is an unspoken threshold, after which in our society the thought is fixed, well, where to give birth already? as they say, well, it's too late. and you were so-so sure, you were 54 years old at that moment, the replanting was another 53, you gave birth already 54, where did you get the confidence from ? well, i don’t know, probably, there was uncertainty
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vera vera yes, that everything will work out yul and how much time you tried, so to speak , to carry out your attempts to become a mother, well, 3 years, but very intensively, let’s say, yes, and the thought of adoption in your family, so to speak, was it discussed or not? she was discussed by us went to the school of adoptive parents. we collected documents. so far, we have agreed that we will adopt anyway. uh-huh that is, now kirill will just grow up and, well, at two years old, when he will be, we will already look for and collect back documents for the adoption of a girl already. why didn't you resist then? let's say mom's proposal, all the same? did you also think that nothing would work out, or what? here mom at 53 you agreed when mom said let's try something to get mom behind and what or uh, no matter how much i didn’t have vera at first when i had the first one. he’s a replant, well, i think they’ll put my mother in jail,
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how would mom if it’s good there, then well, let it be good, it would all end again, and if it doesn’t work out, maybe mom’s, as it were, would decrease, which, well, would stop she’ll stop offering such an idea, but you didn’t scare yourself that mom was still healthy, the biggest fear is that mom can’t stand the body. yes , this is why i refused, so i was not very much in favor of this idea, but then, when the embryo took root, then there was already a very big fear for the health of the mother and for the health of the baby for eight months. well, they survived. didn't you have fear? for some reason, i never even thought that something could be wrong with me. no, there
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was no fear, absolutely i was fear for the child, so that only everything would be fine, so that he would develop correctly in a timely manner, the only person was afraid. here, so that everything is fine, and i take an analysis every month every week, and every month there are others. well, an ultrasound every month went. yes, she did an ultrasound. yeah, everything was fine for a week. i again began to worry again, then i waited another two weeks and again went for an ultrasound scan that there was only as soon as they told me. well, everything is fine here, everything is fine. it was easy for me again. yeah, mentally it was hard. but you know, in principle, it seems to me, there is the topic of surrogate motherhood. she, well, not so long ago , entered into the discussion in our society, so to speak, and there is another such stereotype that, well, people resort to it, but there i don’t know wide views. rich people, perhaps, who cannot solve their problems there otherwise; in general, there are still many prejudices. and hmm, it's just like
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that among the people in your small towns. you didn’t fear that the information that you were carrying, so to speak, a grandson. well , it will somehow be subjected to some kind of moral pressure, including some kind. will you subject something? of course, i was ashamed of my state of my pregnancy. i was shying. e. well, what do people think i am for myself and if well, someone i met, i explained right away that it was for my daughter. this is not for myself. this is not my stomach, as it were, yes, but this is actually my daughter's life. but in principle, as i know, we now have some restrictions that surrogate mothers can become so an outsider under 35 years old, for your sake they made some kind of exception. well, when the conversation came up about what i want, yulia agreed, i called the center and the director. hey, head doctor. she explained to me that 35 years is the ceiling. but i
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asked i never got sick. i don't have a feminine there were problems. maybe let's try, then, she said, well, as an exception, we can, if your health allows, i started drinking hormonal, which provoked endometrial hyperplasia and a little bit. of course, i had two more minor surgeries. yeah. then, in october, they already gave me the first injection, when the medications started, when all these people started like that. preparatory measures there was no desire to say so, well, or there suddenly thought that oh , something, i seem to have overestimated my strength. no, i do not doubted. only help. now let's listen. just your personal doctor, yulia mikhailovna, what she told us. when elena appeared and put forward her candidacy for the role of a surrogate
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mother, of course, this was treated with skepticism and reluctance. it can be said that e was considered as a candidate, because the age of pregnancy is such a kind of test for the state of health, even if a person is healthy, but without pregnancy, then during pregnancy various complications can occur in the body. may fail, at the age of 50 above, of course, these risks are very high, given that she is her age at the time of getting pregnant. you are already 53 years old, even if she is absolutely healthy according to the results of the examination. there are still cardiovascular risks, that is, during pregnancy, problems of the cardiovascular system can occur. here an exception was made, because here, probably, see or they use. why was it done? well, if she were frightened, even if for a minute she
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expressed some doubt that will something bad happen to me or what? i would immediately refuse, we took a kind of risk, so to speak, took responsibility for this particular patient, because the cases are exceptional and they had no other choice to learn, that they could not afford commercial surrogacy. we went for it, but that's how they will come to us. tomorrow. let them say, i want, i want, i want. no, of course, we don’t do it yul, well, we’re all talking about you in the sense of how you reacted to this, a how the man reacted to it. when you said, you know, now my mother wants to give birth to a child for us , she wanted children so much that he said, if she can, if she really wants to, then m let her try, if god wills so it will be, and your
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spouse is a newly-born, who not so long ago you are married and happily married. but in general, he always supported this idea, as it were. i had to thin my blood there. he rode and collected 20-30 liters of birch sap, brought it and froze it. here, so that the blood does not thicken, it was necessary so for health, then here he this is he he helped the pregnancy a lot in any way he could. he is morally that some kind of folk remedies that could help mom hmm carrying a pregnancy. he did the whole thing. all that he could do, he did everything at the age of 54, elena endured and gave birth to her own grandson. look at how they want children and you know that i
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bore my children without problems. i thought that i could before becoming a surrogate mother. it didn't take long to prepare. i started drinking hormonally and a little. of course, i underwent two more small operations, yulia's husband did not mind, that their child would be born in such an unusual way, he wanted children so much that he said, if she can, if she really wants it, then m let her try alone with everyone elena snegur and her daughter yulia sokolova lena i know that there is also a brother julie e has your son and he has some health problems with his joints. here you told us e to e of the program that if i could give away my joints there, if only my son would be all right. i would give. here is some kind of, uh, maternal sacrifice. i would say some
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which is all that is possible right up to enduring grandchildren. come on, give the joint. you are already ready , it is clear that there is such a thing. well, what a common phrase, or something, that a mother is ready to give her child away in her life. and this is the pure truth, it is, as it were, the maternal instinct, it is the strongest, but still, it’s not too much to be ready to sacrifice to such an extent. all for the sake of their children, i don't know. i think, probably, any mother would go for it. that is, you feel it is your duty. yes, i owe, if i can, i owe everything i can. but as you met your husband, how did we meet? well, we met a long time ago 4 so in the seventy- fourth year. it's been 42 years already. yes, we studied together at school odnoklassniki in the same class. yes,
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then in the tenth grade i left this city and went to my grandmother in another city to live in the world, and 10. i no longer studied with my class and at yulia's graduation when his daughter also studied with yulia in parallel classes. and then on social media. when he registered, we also began to correspond with him. and he confessed to me that it's like he had a childhood crush. we even wanted him with a classmate with my one e with one woman wanted to marry. yes, instead of yourself, you were free, too, i was not yet free. ah, they weren't free yet. so we wanted to introduce him,
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but she refused. he wrote to me. no, i'll be waiting for you then so i thought about staying with my husband, with whom the desire is very, of course, by that time it's good and it turns out. as a matter of fact, you know that you refute the saying that at the age of 40 , life is just beginning for you, it somehow after 50 ran on all counts. well, you are some kind of actually, a brave woman, you are sitting such a modest mouse, in general, courage. this is your wagon. let's listen now. how did you react to your decision? uh, your, your loved ones, your spouse, your girlfriend is close and yours, mom. as a matter of fact, there are also other people who react. what is special about lena is generally a wonderful person. she is quite. i think she was made for family life. i saw, uh, in this
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person responsibility is responsible when it she told me about this in her desire to help her daughter. of course i was shocked. 54 years old is a serious age to carry a child. besides that, she had other concerns. her son denis underwent several operations. it was pointless to dissuade her, of course, she lasted with these emotions. she i she says i understood with my mind. that i should give this child, this is not my child, but my heart did not let go, because in fact, you know, she even talked to him, she taught him to talk to him when he was still in
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in general, it was, yes, yes, here are the roles of mother in grandmother's mother. she put her hand on her stomach and somehow patted him a little, and he reacted to these claps. for us, it was of course, well, in general, it’s not quite usual that we saw and didn’t see each other with our own eyes. yes, of course, it's risky when you sometimes watch on tv. how many different cases are there? what dies or the mother's child? and this is what i was afraid of all the time. here she is for you, who is the heroine of the victim, who is she for you elena well, the victim, probably, she sacrificed it could still be vita ok, they did it all. she was seen lying in it, how to say for the preservation. she was
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on medication all the time. that's it . this is what for sometimes for health, it's not really. ok, mom. actually, your grandmother, your mother's mother, naturally, also experiencing her own maternal instinct in turn. i was worried that, thank god, everything ended well, but it could end not very well. anything could be you did not think about what it is, well , selfish enough. in general, the relationship readiness, mother, who speaks. but let me help you, maybe you should have insisted that well, now, of course, some hypotheses, because thank god, there is a wonderfully healthy kirill was born. mom is absolutely beautiful. how many kirusha are now even 4 months old. this is how a woman looks like after giving birth to a child of 54 years old. but he didn't think about that well, maybe somehow i went over somehow with the willingness of my mother. well,
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mom is ready, but am i ready to risk her health like that. i was not ready, initially i and that the decision that we made, what will be planted in january, when kirill was planted, he succeeded very difficult with tears in his eyes, but my mother called me, you decided. well, here, i can i feel that i can consult with my husband. my husband says to me, well, what are you, why are you so worried? i say, well, what if it's scary already. hmm, we'll lose embryos. we can lose our mother there, anything can happen. he but if mom says so wants trying not torture, how would he support me. well , not that he supported me, he pushed me to the fact that to say yes, but it was still very difficult and i didn’t fully realize and didn’t think that
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how everything would turn out, the embryos would take root, that my mother would have to give birth to lena, how did you feel? how is the pregnancy going? i was ready for everything, and therefore for me i almost now think that i easily brought this pregnancy to me. i didn’t have any toxicosis, there was nothing with my children, and there was nothing with kirusha. the only thing that has been hard for me lately is to walk for a long time. well , if we talk about the moral side, i did, here there are difficulties, so to speak, physiological, which one way or another they overcame with the help of medicine, so to speak, various modern means , them women, then such a different way to recover. this is the connection with the child. and how is it to understand that this is not my child, that is. it’s like mine, but she’s actually my
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daughter and actually i’ll have to give her away and actually, that’s how you talked about what patting on the tummy. i spoke to him right away. so, when it was already more than 20 weeks, when there were already movements, uh, i woke up and said, kiryushenka well kiryushenka baby, i say, baby, well, i’m getting up, we’ll get up, and he somehow moved like this. i was at ease with him. everything is fine. what julia give away. uh, well this is also with his wife and grandson, so love for his daughter. eh, there was no doubt that i was carrying a grandson and i would give it to my daughter so that she would be happy, but when i saw kirill in the hospital, i, of course, had something maternal in me. straightaway
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her mother's health was very difficult for yulia, her husband says, what are you doing, why are you so worried? i say, well, suddenly it's scary already. we lose embryos, we can lose anything can happen to my mother there, despite the fact that elena was carrying a grandson, she treated him like her own child, when it was already more than 20 weeks, when there were already movements, uh, i woke up and said, baby, well, that i get up, we will get up, and he somehow moved like this. i was at ease with him. everything is fine. julia saw the experiences of her mother and felt her connection with the child, i still understand that this is for her, as a big part, like a son. secondly, as a grandson, she loves him very much. she is very strong tied to him. alone with everyone, elena snegur, and her daughter yulia sokolova lena went through the
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planned ones like a mouth yes, in advance, well in advance, like a caesarean section it is always at 38 weeks and so i informed up to 38 weeks and arrived at the planned caesarean section . ufa you also went, yulia did not, they took her. but she herself did not let us in, they said that it was impossible. why? well, they can't. in this hospital, in their practice, there are no partnerships of partner deliveries, so there is none. and where were you , we were at home sitting on pins and needles all this time, until mom called and said you became parents. and when there was a caesarean section, then you were conscious or not, yes, that is, you saw right away yes, they did not do spinal anesthesia, i heard the child. i heard him screaming, i even heard it. that it seemed that he was screaming in
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his stomach, he began to scream so such a muffled sound was, uh, a voice, a voice, then stronger, and then they took him away. e in another room to you, that they showed him everything, as it should be or not. they didn't show it to me. they didn't say this look. here is the boy. no. although i was conscious. i thought everything was as it should be. i thought so. so they took him to another room. doctors from the children's department were already waiting there and they took him to the children's department, which turns out to be in intensive care. why did they bring babies to everyone in the evening? well , i also stayed in intensive care in my adult adult and they brought some children to show, but i don’t in the morning again they bring others to me again. i already asked a question. why
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don't i show the child will come to you the doctor will tell you everything, i began to worry. yes, i've gone crazy . this is how i think now, then they told me he was in intensive care. you can call there. i called and they told me the child was not breathing, that he was developing pneumonia. well, then, of course, i already had a tantrum yulka. how did they find out that kirill was in intensive care? mom called, she said we talked the night before and everything was fine with the child. everything is fine. all is well with me. uh, the child is no longer allowed, they are not allowed. mom is also in intensive care, she is also not knows what's going on with the baby. but everything seemed to be fine. and in the morning, uh, my mother called us and said that kirill turned out to be in intensive care, he had pneumonia. ugh, that's not so good. as
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i would like, as yesterday assumed. there have already begun attempts to undertake and in resuscitation. started calling every day there, you know? what every hour, if you call it will be useless and only doctors divert from their duties. to calm down my mother, because my mother just had a very strong feeling at that moment that her mother had changed attitude, or something to the child, that for a long time there the mind tried to control feelings, and she said. here is my grandson. this is for your son and stuff. and what at that moment, when the child was born, that, in fact, the concept mixed up. and what is it that she doesn’t really can distinguish, is it well or is it still my child thinks, she m-m it was clear when it became obvious when we ran into the intensive care unit itself near kirill i was let in for the first time
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kirusha. ah, i saw him, and my mother already, in my opinion, the third time yes approached. that's when, seeing mom 's attitude towards the child, how she stood crying, how she was shaking. i understood that it would be very difficult for mother to mother without kirill, and i would give him and she more than m-m more feelings than grandmother to her grandson. and what did you experience with these kirills? this is my child. all i have will be no thoughts. he's a recoverer, it won't be all right. they do everything to make it all right. this is my child, and you cried. i am such a person, i very, very rarely cry from unemotional emotions, especially in such when i am near a person who is also unwell. yeah, seeing my tears. he will be even worse, so we must hold on. lenochka you cry all the time or or memories
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and happiness that all this ended, thank god everything ended well, really, and here is kirill's mother. earlier, lena was discharged earlier than kirill, or at the same time. yes, and that is, you still continued to go kirush, eat, eat, sterlitamak is 120 km away. wow, that is not every day there is all day through the day. and when i was discharged, it was something like me on the day of discharge. i was waiting there, kiss a week, how long i was in bed, i was all flowing and when they discharged me, why? well, because they were afraid , no, kirill is that he is sick, yes, that's what i was afraid of. and when they were discharged, i think how it is possible to leave such a tiny tiny one in this maternity hospital. i didn’t understand, in general, for me it was something, the moment came, i had to leave the
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hospital, and we yulia came for me, and we immediately went from the hospital to the church, wept and asked , then asked everyone at each room, they stood there begged that everything was, so that with kiryusha recovered. uh-huh well, after what time kiryushka was discharged, he was first discharged in vain, the animations were discharged for 12 on the fourteenth day, money, and then for another week we lay with him in the children's department for the second stage of courtship there. i'm with kirill, and they've already put it up. yes, you were waiting. yes, i've been waiting. i already called her too. she sent me a photo. and how did you decide among yourselves, who will lie with a kirushka, when when i am a mother , a birth certificate, as if my mother were lying in a bank? yeah, that is, there was no legal possibility. uh, lenochka, if there was a legal possibility, then you would have run ahead of the curve together, you would have been lying, well,
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that is, when kirill was taken away from the hospital , they met you, as expected, but with flowers and your mother met, right? it was a strange feeling. no, i was glad that kirill recovered. and that he and yulia well , everything is strange, no, there was no strange feeling. no, i didn't know it was a child. and that they should meet her, yul, and when you felt, i don’t know somehow, that maternal feelings immediately turn out right away m-m. i didn't think about that if i have maternal instinct, no, he swears maternal instinct, i just knew. this is my child. i will live with him for a very long time. i already love him. i am boundless man to him tenderness. i am responsible for his life. uh, without this little man. i can't anymore because it's mine. and
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how did he treat you, kirill, he looked at me for the first time, as if he were just another nurse. with one eye, and so you can’t say that there are immediately some just around him. at first there were a lot of people. and when he saw me, i was for him another another face that he might never see again. uh-huh well, then after three days, probably, he is already so accustomed to it, still better than anyone and len pays attention to me most of all when we, uh, asked you, but hmm, preparing for this program. and would you go to such an experiment again, you said, perhaps yes, you would not be able to give back. so said. parting is difficult
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very difficult this is something what was the most difficult parting for you lena what did you think? what would be bad without you? yes, and it seemed to me that he it is better for me that he seems to feel that i am giving him, that i am giving and betraying him. well, that's what he don't know, that's how i felt. i even when they left, and we had an agreement with yulia. they traveled for three days, but murmansk that every 3 hours she tells me how kirill's condition is, and here is some moment in my head , uh, the crying of a child. so i hear the cry of a child, i call them , and the truth is, kirill is crying. there was some kind of connection with him, then it was very difficult to leave. and let us know what is now let's listen to professor neonatologist grigorievna filippova. and what did she tell us, but she told us about
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your specific situation and about horned motherhood in general. talking about what happens in psychological practice, this is not the most shocking story, but in fact, from the point of view of the arrangement, uh, family roles and the formation of the personality of a child, this is, of course, a very difficult story, because certain family roles, who do i mom, who is dad, who is mom it helps a person to expose his concept of self to define himself as a person a certain gender of age, to master the role in the family that i should have in this case, since we are still talking about a boy, it will be a little easier for him, because girls also need to master the maternal position, and in this. in general, a mixed story - it's not just the boy here, at least one single father, and as an object with which he will have to compare himself, there is such a concept of psychology, identification, he has it precisely defined, but about how he
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will then figure out how to choose for myself. there can be different interesting stories here, because, in principle, the mother figure plays a big role here, but now this child has two mother figures. and, probably, the whole problem here is how they will play these roles among themselves, and distribute them, how they will position themselves in relation to the child. for example, we, psychology, know quite a lot of examples when these roles are confused, but the role played within the family is called so, who is the best mother for this child and can fight for this role, mother and grandmother, mother, and even there, dad and aunt, someone else would be nice if there was the help of a psychologist who would help them put all the roles in the place of this grandmother, accept what she did and how to put an end to it. yes, now say, well , that's it, i'm a grandmother. i give all the rights i leave for this position of mine and i will study there to be a grandmother
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so that it is not just easy, but such a grateful parting with a sense of accomplishment of a job well done, gratitude to the parents who take this child and crushed them to them for the child. it matters a lot when a mother separates from her child. so , with anxiety with feelings of tears, this just speaks of that very internal conflict that she is not ready to let go of him and hand over to other hands, when we talk about surrogate motherhood in general, about ikos back motherhood, then we always recommend to parents that children know about the status of their birth. as far as i know, you didn't really intend to hide from kirill how he was born. and how are you? to him if they explained it, there is such a thing when children from the age of five ask my mother there. yes
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, you gave birth to me. no, not me who gave birth. here is your grandmother. why didn't she give birth? well, in my house, where children grow up, there is not much. yeah, not very good. you wouldn't like it there. this explanation is enough. it seems to me at the level of this age, when he just starts asking such questions and this information is enough for him, and then it’s like it won’t happen when he grows up, that you have me all my life they lied that you gave birth to me, how my grandmother gave birth to me, and everything in my life was a hoax, and so on and so forth, so let's not hide hmm, let's start asking questions, we'll answer. somehow, at first, with children's fairy tales, but we will not affirm and deceive the child. it was hard for elena to come to terms with the idea that this was not her child, when i ran to the intensive care unit, i ran away from my adult
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intensive care unit. that's when i think it's mine. why why did this happen? why did i try so hard? and so this is how julia understood how difficult there will be a parting of the mother with the baby video mom's attitude towards the child, how she stood crying, how she was shaking. i understood that it would be very difficult for my mother without seryozha and i would give him more than more feelings than my grandmother. well, the future julia plans to tell her son the whole truth, and his birth. children at the age of five ask there you are my mother, there you gave birth to me. no, not me who gave birth. here is yours. grandmother alone with everyone elena snegur, and her daughter yulia sokolova you wanted to ask you yulia know when children are born, and naturally our parents, there they always feel us as their own children, and there,
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no, no. and no matter how old we are, they try to educate us to express. we do it this way or not, we do it and when our children are born in the next generation. i mean, after all, parental guardianship, and they are transferred to our children , they begin to tell him this way or not, do you absorb you, right or wrong? it 's just whether you feed your own child. and in general, every mom, dad has an iron answer. uh, if you don't want to pay or interfere or so stop, you raised me, thank you very much. now. this is my child and i will do as i see fit. here is your situation. it seems to me quite difficult to object to your mother and say that i will do it, as i think it is necessary, because we are doing it. well, we do it, so it is, as it were, and mom is trying to intervene. somehow especially . no, it's not necessary to give kirill, or this thing is not, but here it is. well, no matter how other aspects you take it wrong. you put it in the wrong place, put it there. it probably doesn't hurt him. everything
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fine. mom is fine, he's fine. you nobody offends. what if you offend him, there is such a thing as offending, kirill, well, there used to be such a feeling, i thought, so that suddenly they offend him there, but how can they offend him? it's interesting just like that. i kind of, well, because i broke up like that there, i thought that he was better with me that i feel that you could somehow do it better than these completely young worthless inexperienced parents, but the question such parental sacrifice which hmm which there is often a well-known case that when there , for example, parents can tell their child. i sacrificed my career there for you and the child will feel fine. in general, forever in indebted debt to his own parents. but
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the victim, on which she went, mom somehow. well, now, if the health with her own and even this moral torment that she is experiencing, breaking up with kirill does not impose on you some kind of additional responsibility and the feeling that, well, this is some kind of unrequited debt and such. here are even some connectedness in their own actions in relation to their son. well , the debt that i must now justify, my mother's mother, such a sacrifice, that kirill should grow up with us as a very wonderful person in a good person and raise him well, and in front of my mother that this is the best thing in the world for me, mother and now no one can argue with that. i love him very much, i respect him and i am infinitely grateful to her for what she has done for me. and your husband, as he expressed his gratitude to his mother-in-law, he
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loves her very much. he has a lot of respect for her, especially since over the past year this is a person who, for him, is probably on such a pedestal that you can’t say anything against anything at all. here, no matter how bad or there even look at it this way with some there. m-m negative is impossible, because it is. it is sacred for him. this holy woman bound me like this and says that i have the most wonderful mother-in-law in the world. she is just a super-duper woman who gave me a son, and all some other questions and this is useless. you now you will especially quarrel with your mother, you won’t even be able to in the presence of your husband, yes, that is, he will always be on the side of your mother, right? most likely, so kirill you came with you. i wanted to
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ask permission so. can we bring him here to us? can he like people to watch for people to watch? now we'll wait. now moms are carrying him. hello kiryuha applaud. hello, this is such a little man. hello. interesting, he's had enough here. and people are a lot of fantasy. yes, how calm is the child? and you are nothing are you afraid? i know for both of you. now, of course, the most important thing is to somehow keep in touch with each other, and in particular with the kiruha, in order to find out how he is doing, how he is growing, do you
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call up? how often can you have kids every day, but we know that you, uh, don't have smartphones. you so to speak, only at home. you can use a computer to watch kirills on a daily basis, and we thought that these are such smartphones. you would be useful in order to be able to as much as possible promptly forward any new first tooth smiles. i don't know the first steps. and yet it will happen with kirill to keep the completely heroic grandmother informed of every event in life, kirill thank you very much. i wish you good luck. thank you we can't help but admire your act and your masculinity and femininity. well, kirusha grow up as a worthy son
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and grandson, just the most worthy one that can, thank you very much. now he is a successful photographer, a professional skier and a happy person, but everything could have worked out quite differently 8 years ago, life subjected him to a difficult test, while climbing elbrus, he stumbled and fell down 2 km. rolled down a rocky slope and survived more than a day. he fought for life, suffered from thirst, lost 10 kg of weight, and stopped feeling his legs. the rescue operation lasted more than 10 hours, and that's it. this time did not leave him. hope legs could not be saved. and
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it radically changed his life, and for the better. now he continues to go to the mountains, he is professionally engaged in skiing. prostheses. taught him the basics. never give up and always go to the intended goal, not paying attention to the obstacle alone with all the skier, mountaineer and photographer sergey alexandrovna hello glad. you are welcomed by our studio you know me always i am very interested in people who, uh, some from a general point of view, but interpret misfortunes as a new impetus to life. but you are almost a gift. i would even say destiny. and why i do not know how to answer this question. this is by far the most difficult question. although he probably expecting. the thing is, when it happened, yes, uh, well, it was a state of shock. here i am
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, there without legs with a temperature. i feel very bad. it's physically a complete nightmare. yes, that is, you do not know how to live and you are physically ill, well, in general, everything should collapse and it should have been bad inside. well, that's normal, yes, but that didn't happen to me. i do not know how to explain it. for me. this is a great gift. this uh, uh, i was already happy, then in a completely terrible state with the simplest things a window opened. i heard how it birds. and i felt good. from this. i was happy. eh, the simplest things. that i regard it as a gift, because i don't know the answer. yes, where did it come from and because of what and why? and because well , i'm not something that i didn't deserve. i did n’t do anything for this, because sometimes you find the strength in yourself to pull yourself out of the swamp. there, well, somehow you do something, and it was well, for free, just lucky you got the feeling of a gift, but you know what
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i might suspect, maybe because the chance that you could lose this life quite a he was also quite large. maybe this is not a chance. this is a rough statistic - more than 90% in such a situation dies within an hour and a half, respectively, live 32 hours. it's a problem and during all those hours of knowing that it's, well, it's like, you'd rather be sent there than stay here and so there's something that, well, like the news that there will be an amputation, it did not cause some big problems. i live it. well, the most important thing is that it actually happened. well , i don’t know what to call it a tragedy. for me. it really a very great adventure. it sounds completely crazy and well speaking of tragedy, most recently before this injury. i didn't have a mother. that was a real
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tragedy for me. it's something i can't even explain going through and it's become so serious for me. why did she die so hard. it's cancer and it's scary when your loved one dies. so hard for me for several years was a key issue in understanding the world in an attempt to understand it, yes, in general, in every every minute i felt it was important for me to understand what death is. why is this at all? eh, it was so important. in general, i counted everything that is possible on this topic to understand what death is, what is there beyond these limits of the concept or in everything. that is, i tried to approach this issue from all sides. well, the most productive way. this is the key to essential psychotherapy. and the idea is that, in general, death makes the very concept of presence in our life and makes our life valuable. ah, when an aunt with a scythe stands nearby, you start
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to understand what is really valuable to you, what is important? and what? well what's the point if she's around as well and for me it wasn't a word for a few years it was straight. well, that's the question that was pounding every minute, perhaps that's why i'm there in the woods in the mountains. yes, high and scary, and in no case was looking for death. i don't like taking risks at all . yes, i always buckle up, but beyond the limits. i'm interested in extremely simple and and it's just interesting that literally that's before the ascent. yes we are next in the morning we were going to climb elbrus, it was generally a training climb, we had very serious plans. in the evening, the thought suddenly comes to me that death is insanely interesting. this is the most interesting event that can happen to your life, it, well, sounds crazy, but the point is that, as it were, and at that moment all questions open up. that is, as if everything falls into
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place, everything is for real. well, uh, you are talking about this, uh fall that happened, what is it, so to speak, it was necessary to have elementary attention for that, that is, it was not some kind of direct extreme extreme. it’s just that they caught a leg in a leg and, as i understand it, for their own and further, but these seconds fell down. do you remember them? yes, very good, and again it's hmm well, i fell for a long time, not a second. yes, it's about 2 km. that is, i flew without a single, not like hope without at all, as it were, what kind of ability is it to cling to this world. that is, it’s just that you are sausage, and you are twisting, and such a thought and non- thinking came. eh, it's very straight forward that i'm not trying. it's like reflecting. it was really there, uh, long-term. i feel it, i realized that eh. well, nothing depends on me anymore. it
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's a feeling of trust. well, that's how it will stop me, well, thank god it won't stop. well, it's not mine either. it was i who flew in absolutely trusting, because it was not scary around, very scary. this is the ultimate feeling. this is a terrible fear. ah, there is fear. eh, when you leave your comfort zone , so to speak, that is, well, and there you are completely lost to this world. it's very scary anyway. case. it's not going anywhere and it's not a question. can you overcome this fear? well, live, yes, continue to continue, well, sometimes fear completely fetters. uh knocks you into a brick. and you turn into nothing. yes, but sometimes you can work in this state. and this is my crazy sport. it helps me. and i am me very, uh, i'm afraid of this, yes, go out to the start. dive into a state of
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absolute e, not like discomfort, well, fear, but when you manage to work there in this zone. this is very cool. it's really great. it huge energy, which there is no limit. let's listen now to your friend dima, who was just with you at that time in the mountains, who actually made a lot of efforts to save you, as he recalls this moment, this is just for now. we were still on the slope and found. well, when there was a panic, respectively, the panic passes, and for me and for him, and then we begin to act, more comrades came up. we brought things. and when it's more or less everything. it was ready for the night, then the mood was better. here remained unknown. only when the rescuers come, but we were in touch with them, and therefore, uh, well, too. it was obvious that they would come in the morning or
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a little later. well, after i came to my senses, everything was again. well, there was not drawn in black paints. yes, we already thought how to return to the city. how to arrange life there? well, from such things would be there. well, yes, we are friends, well, an acquaintance for more than 20 years, probably, and has not changed at all. no, he will say. so he became more serious and only in this respect, but his own. e sensations of life. and here it is endless optimism. he remained the same as at 12 years old. and, of course, i don’t perceive seryoga as an invalid and with a limited person with disabilities.
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it is really impossible to apply the word disabled person to you, your possibilities are not limited. it’s just that god knows what you are doing, which people don’t do with their legs, so to speak. but you even somehow insist on it. here are your quotes. you say don't expect me. there are people of an unfortunate invalid for the four years that i live without grandchildren visited the mountains of norway for volcanoes, kamchatka, i can walk for 10 hours on the slopes with a thirty-kilogram backpack. i have space prostheses, german. in short, iron legs are cool. you might think that this is such a self-incantation. here i am disabled. and that's even better. yes, i don’t know, somehow i live with what i have, yes, using the opportunities that there are, it’s all technical difficulties. there are a lot of things in the life of every person . er, well, any technical problems. yeah, i don't know, the sink broke, uh. disorder something
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my leg broke disorder well first one and half year. it really hurts, that is, walking on prostheses. this is tryndets excuse me, especially there for the first time i reached the kitchen. uh, i drenched myself, then literally oh, well, from pain, uh, and on crutches, but at the same time this disgrace of the last happy, because i can walk. that's all. it 's in this nonsense. i can do that, well, it's a matter of training. this is a question. e my efforts. the chances of his salvation were negligible, rough statistics are small, more than 90% in such a situation dies within an hour and a half, respectively, live 32 hours. it's a problem. and during all those hours of knowing that it's, well, it's like, you'd rather go there than stay. there are real
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tragedies here. he considers the death of his mother, she was dying very hard. it's cancer and it's scary when your loved one dies. so hard, he is calm about life on prostheses. i think it's a quote. you say don't expect me. there are people of an unfortunate disabled person, iron legs - that's cool. i live with the fact that there are a lot of technical problems in the life of every person. yes, there i don't know the shell is broken. uh, disorder there, my leg broke disorder. life without borders sergey alexandrov there is an amazing photo of you right after you were rescued. uh, it means that the rescuers lowered after 32 hours from the mountain 32 hours of waiting, the doctors ascertained to the hospital. all have lost 10 kg. just for these 30%, yes, for these 32 hours of waiting, when both legs are broken, irreparable
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blood bleeds and so on. here you lie smiling, and i saw my friends, that in general it was also an absolutely amazing feeling. i'm crazy you see the losses, and it was not something that i had to call everything there, but somehow. so i was just very glad to see my friends. e people who talked to me there, and i managed to immediately start a conversation with a living person to me, then crowds of friends climbed into this same hospital until night, then over the fence. it was cool overall. for some reason, you remember, after all, a special impression, when a butterfly flew into your intensive care unit. well, this is just an example, it's just, probably, it's just very beautiful, and i remember, there's not even butterfly such a dead moth just something. well, it seemed like a butterfly. well, yes. well, it’s just this, when you’re in intensive care, but i don’t think you pumpkins,
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it’s like, like, but i was really pleased that this world exists in general, and it’s so big and beautiful there, that there’s something else, because that in the intensive care unit there is a creepy place, in general, next to you people are constantly either dying or something else. well, there, a nightmare in general, here is and here is something living wonderful. and it was these little things that made me very happy, and again, you understand, me, everything they ask. uh, motivational secret. here, come on, tell me how it is, too. yes, in the same case. well, not in exactly the same way. let's take it hard, but this is a gift, it's a freebie. i don’t know where it came from, and what it is, well, in my life there was such a very simple plot, but at the same time, for me it is subjectively very valuable almost mystical experience. i was once still a student, but in practice i was in a terrible, creepy , so nasty mood. here you were, there was a well, i
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wanted to spit such a nasty whole well and cold it was so chilly. and here i am walking and suddenly, uh, suddenly, from behind, as if something is hugging me, it’s warm, warm, and i turn around, and there is the sun. it's like it's a gift, when you don't deserve it for free. do you want like yes? well, a well? yes, and you are hugged by something like that. i must say you have an amazing story. e your marriage, but because a year before it happened, well, let's call it misfortune. and so, although, this is the case when there was no participation before the misfortune helped. you broke up with yours. uh, wife. that is, she was your girlfriend, as i understand it, or either she was not even your girlfriend,
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or you were an unsuccessful attempt to woo her. well , to cut a long story short, she wasn't there for you just when you were in the hospital here, so she reappeared on the horizon. eh, tell me what it was like, it's impossible at all. yes, that is, it does not fit into any social norms. well, it's just, well, before that we had met for a very short time, we had only just met and somehow it didn't work out there. eh, she had her there my problems, in general, it was not up to me, and in general, we parted. and then she found out about me. here is something on the internet somewhere. and just came to the hospital her words. how exactly did she say, because otherwise, well, she didn’t know how to, that is. she just came to regret came. here is the key word. this is the worst. what can be done with a person in such a situation to feel sorry for him, i learned how to become disabled in the head. here,
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uh, and parts of it. well, probably not in part, maybe in general, well, as it were, to a greater extent. she saved me from that, you know. are you lying down? you are so helpless, well, really objectively helpless, really objectively hard and asking, well, someone give me a glass of water. i'm just this image. it seems to me very accurate, and naturally, they immediately serve you. well, i'm helping you. you’re lying like this, can i have an egg there about something, there’s pizza there, here, and here with olives, here and here, here you are, here it is and here it is, chocolate and candy. come on come on and then, and then know what's going on in some moment, and people are watching, yes, you yourself can reach for a glass and such. well, it’s easier for you to file for me and such an insult arises immediately immediately. here is this one. well, how am i so unhappy. and you, and you can't give me a glass. here and this ah-ah turns a man the moment
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completely a monster it happens m-m. here is the end result. it turns into a human. he himself is no longer capable of anything, but a terrible resentment for the whole world for his loved ones, constant snot and a complete lack of personal strength. this is it's scary. it happens very quickly uh-huh that's unfortunately, and polina e in plain text. you don't interest me at all. just in a rigid and wheelless form, not only that, she continues to do so. this is very hard for me. literally. well, yes, i am , well, as it were, not something to say, maybe , yes, it’s wrong to formulate this here. she feels very subtly when you yourself can, but when you pull someone's strings, you start to pull. she immediately feels it and this thread is everything at once. that's when you're well, that's when i was sick, especially
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much after and when i get tired after training, well, i really want to be looked after there, well, uh -way all that. here. unfortunately, this is not about her. no, you understand, she is very affectionate and gentle with me, but this is when you yourself have the necessary energy to, well, not be at all. this is the most. get up then we’ll talk hard, but in my case it’s extremely effective, that is, so you got on your feet and the elections went on, it doesn’t seem like was, right? a year later you, uh, made her a very nice proposal in a balloon at that moment you already had prostheses, right? yeah. although we went for a ride in a wheelchair for half a year, it was terrible. yes, and she had to dung this stroller,
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and carry it there. and this is very hard. i was in a wheelchair for six months. i even managed to, uh, i went to the city center and went alone and even found a job for myself. although i didn’t have problems with finances at that moment, my friends were incredibly able, including money, for the first couple of years. i don't at all i thought that this is a problem. that's why they are needed for some reason, but i really loved that i didn’t want to and i love photographs. and then i also found it there on the first floor in the studio, all this was possible, but nevertheless, doing photography even in a wheelchair, but it is very difficult with a wheelchair user. first time. you thought that now i want to understand development, as it were, when prostheses appeared then. from the very beginning, you thought that there would be prostheses, or did you initially think, no. well , okay, so you need to get used to life wheelchair. i don't know at what point something happened there. this is from the category of technical
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solutions. it's a big adventure dentures is here is my very favorite joke. it's true, my wife joked again, but she keeps complaining that she has one closet with these very things, and i have two with legs. that's it. it's really like that, it's just a blockage, it's for every function for every movement you need new legs. and thanks to my prosthetists. my god, what would he do without them. they just didn’t come up with, and not under what goals of each legs? well, first of all, it is under each function. that is, unfortunately, in general, our legs are a unique creation in general and any prostheses. it 's just an attempt to get closer. accordingly, to walk you need one, to walk over rough terrain another, to walk with a load of the third, to run the fourth and for my beloved to ski. this is fundamentally different. and whose idea was
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to get married anywhere, but in the forest at a crossroads. i don’t remember whose. but of course, polina was worried that i screwed up there. here she is it's just that i'm a very uncomfortable person. i can rather live in the forest on a tree without anything. well, i'm generally fine here, eh. well, a wedding is such an event, when do you need everything to be right? yes, so that people can wear beautiful dresses and shoes, and here is some kind of forest. yes, i was, of course, scared, but i'm a wedding in a restaurant. well i have a lot of videos of weddings in the restaurant. i'm already yes, i 'm working. and now i'm tired of seeing. well, as it were, i'm not what to see, i'm starting to work. i come to the restaurant and start working. it was somewhere run off, probably, yes, and in general, it was perfectly fine, because we had time to do it. everything was done, yes, that is, we protected ourselves
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from the rain and from everything it was your photograph. wedding on the internet. they are truly extraordinary beauties. i'm insanely sorry that we ca n't show them in our program, because you forbade us to show your wife, there is such a thing, it's hard to say, well, firstly, she doesn't want to. how about convincing her? this is a completely pointless exercise. this you understood. yes, so you can't wait for a glass of water from me. here you can do it all. why doesn't she want to? and it's a big load, in fact, when well, not that they recognize you. i can probably handle it, but it's not just that. hmm, it's like a different world and different energy. things are changing so much and i'm not sure if i can handle it? yes hmm yes? he is sure that you become disabled in your head
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when you ask, well, give me a glass of water for someone, and of course, they immediately serve you. well, they help you. this is so fat, you can give me an egg there something else there pizza there and this one this one and this one and chocolate and candy, and people are watching. yes, you can reach the glass yourself. how am i so unhappy. and you, and you can't give me a glass. that's when a man turns into a completely monster. sergey has more prostheses than outfits. at his wife. i have a very favorite. joke. it's true, my wife joked again, but she keeps complaining that she has one closet with these very things, and i have two with legs for each type of activity. he has a separate pair legs, to walk you need one, to walk over rough terrain, another, to go out with a load of the third, to run the fourth, and for my we to ski. it's fundamentally
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different life without borders sergei alexandrov have you had a daughter? uh-huh and this is ah, set some new goals for you. it generally changes everything . the most remarkable thing is that, you know, in childhood, you really love the new year, your birthday. yes, and then you become old and rotten. and it's like the holidays at some point stand. just like you lose the holiday you lose. well, he, well, he gave a cool birthday there, he called back to everyone there. and when a child appears, everything returns, magic returns and the new year returns and now i have the opportunity to make a holiday for her, yes, make joy. it's just incredible i know that you travel a lot, and you travel with your family, including, well , for example, you drive a car. yes, of course, you drove her to no, i didn’t just drive her. uh, actually, i rode
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a bike. and i went seriously, then for a long time it was well, i drove 6 8,000 kilometers a year. well, yes, it's 50 kilometers a day there. this is approximately the average. well, you got into the car and began to drive it, realizing that you have some kind of responsibility to the family, because, well, the husband is the father, because it is convenient. you once said that at any moment you can say, change, uh, i need to go to the mountains. and what is this place of solitude for you, which you, but still need it so, well, at any moment i can no longer, because i have a wife and a daughter. and this hmm, the basic part of my life is inexchangeable. yeah, i mean, if they're doing well, then i can have fun. here are the sets for entertainment or solitude after all. well, look what mountains of figures that walked before the injury. i don't walk anymore, but it's a very important part for me to find the state when it's so difficult. yes, you
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have to find. be, well, some incredible resources are important to me. i want to search through it, which is probably why i do this completely insane sport. yes, and you started doing names when the injury has already occurred. you have n't been very close to them before. i didn't know what it was. that is, i, uh, we were engaged in ski touring, that is, with a heavy backpack we descended from high mountains. but this is a completely different technique. here, uh, skiing technique is a classic. this is completely different. that is, just when you have already stood up on prostheses, go skiing. it has become a kind of test for you too, will i find more resources in myself? well, in this case, well, this and this too, but in this case it's also a thrill. so i wanted to return to the topic of the prosthesis, because in fact, now i’m talking about the fact that there is a complete wardrobe of these prostheses.

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