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good evening on the air, the big game today , the russian armed forces successfully repelled the attempts of the kiev regime to launch an offensive in kherson nikolaev regions, that is, another attempt. kiev to launch a large-scale offensive failed miserably. the united states, meanwhile, is increasing military assistance to the kiev regime and is striving to ensure its continuity on september 8th. they scheduled a new meeting of the contact group on ukraine, the so -called rammstein group, and it will take place again at this same american military base and again chaired by the minister. defense of the united
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states floyd. austin, moreover, the united states will institutionalize its participation in ukrainian conflict. and even i would say they are taking this institutionalization to a qualitatively new level within the framework of the ministry of defense. the united states intends to institutionally consolidate all of its military efforts on the ukrainian conflict into a single mission. the mother of this mission is the code name and appoint a specific general responsible for its implementation, that is, in fact, the ukrainian command of the united states armed forces is being created about the prospects of american policy regarding the ukrainian conflict. today we will talk with president of the center for national interests dmitry syme and gmo professor andronik migronyan dmitry andronik vsevich. good evening dmitry well, the biden administration constantly says that it intends to avoid escalation with russia , and therefore the biden administration refuses to give kiev tips. let's say long-range missiles or
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american military fighter jets, but at the same time, the united states is institutionalizing its participation in this way. so some observers even compare it with the participation of the united states in the iraq wars in afghanistan where the united states fought not indirectly, but with its own hands. how do you explain it? i don’t see any contradiction in speech, because the united states is gradually slowly, probably, becoming a full-fledged participant in what is happening in the theater of operations in ukraine yes, no, uh, american infantry units are not sitting there in the cockpits of ukrainian aircraft. uh, american pilots, but not only provide weapons to ukraine, but directly mode. uh provides intelligence information.
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what is, in general, extremely important on the battlefield and makes the united states directly involved in what is happening in the united states give strategic advice and strategic intelligence to ukraine what i say is not some kind of secret. it's not what they're trying. tearing is an absolutely open position of the biden administration of another country. as you rightly said, uh, the president of the united states does not want a third world war, and he advisers have repeatedly spoken about this, but their position is not, if i may say so , static, that is, as hostilities develop, as what in ukraine is called a war, and in russia a special operation on the part of russia is clearly a non-full-scale special war operation, but as
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this process develops in the united states, in general, they begin to believe that they need to do more for ukraine and can afford to do more for ukraine, and this has been repeatedly said and it is an escalation of american intervention to some extent going on. as a result, the dynamics on the battlefield are to some extent under ukrainian pressure. well, to some extent, simply because the us military believes that this is exactly what is required, which is to allow ukraine to achieve the desired results and, uh. american participation in this conflict reached the level when the pentagon considered that some one coordinator was needed, some one person who
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would be responsible and required for everything, so some full command. at what level with how many people, and this is not fully formulated now, but they say that there will be a general with two or three stars, but let me remind you that there are slightly different rank systems, and three times called a lieutenant general, but according to the russian system this a colonel-general above him is only a full general of the army. and this means that for such a person, for example, a whole army group or army is being created. that is, this is a very serious force, regardless of whether there is a lot there. are you direct battles or not? and i don't know what andranik thinks, ah, i want to say that from experience, as you said, when such an institutionalization of american
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interference takes place, it usually leads to an expansion of this interference. and in essence, and because of how it is perceived by american society, what do you think, but i think you are right, really. uh, logically, when an institute is created, according to this institute, the personnel structure is prescribed, the budget, uh, powers, but, frankly, i don’t know, dmitry of course, you need to, see how this program is actually being implemented. i cannot imagine that special army units were created under the leadership of this general for possible participation. ukraine in the fighting , because it would be, uh, well, in general, an act of madness and a direct world war. well, on the other hand, by the way, uh, really. uh, here is the article we
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talked about not so long ago to dmitry michelier. so he was just talking about uncontrollability in this scalation at the beginning. that's right dmitry said the situation is changing and changing in general the task that is set if earlier they said that, well, lethal weapons are the lightest, and then it turns out to be heavy weapons if we do not participate, and then we, by the way, write to our camera that actually, there are american servicemen who participate in the planning of the operation and acts in general in leadership positions and positions. uh, when delivering some kind of strikes on these rs well, in general, dmitry was already noted here and they receive intelligence information and share i was in vietnam at the end of the vietnam war. by the decision of the american congress, as you both know
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, was at some stage prohibited from american military personnel to take a direct part in operations, but no one says that the united states withdrew from the war, the form of american intervention has changed. it seems to me that this is happening right now dmitry. that is why i asked you about the contradiction between the actions that the united states is taking and their rhetoric. they are accepting the escalation they are declaring, because of course, and the logic of the united states is understandable. if you want to make some process permanent, create a bureaucracy, exactly, they are creating a bureaucracy, and therefore they are another evidence in favor of the fact that the united states wants to prolong this conflict for as many years as possible and create an appropriate bureaucratic structure for this, which would continued. this delay is a continuation of this conflict. but here is the main thesis of that article by wersheimer,
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which andronik mosessovich mentioned, is that the longer the conflict continues, the higher the risk of escalation, and dmitry you yourself said that quantity has turned into quality; the amount of american involvement has turned into a certain quality; the need to create a military-bureaucratic structure. here the transition of quantity into quality of this is an escalation. only according to hegel. yes. uh, it's the second law of dialectics and, but it's escalation and it can lead to military escalation in the theater of operations. here you, uh, said one thing that i do not fully agree with. although i agree with your main conclusion, i will explain. you said that the united states, if i understand you correctly, wants to deliberately drag out this situation in ukraine for many years to come. i’m not sure about this, because as a politician, baid, he can’t want that when he runs
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for president in 24, this war will continue on this over the subjective subjective preferences of the president. baid on his advisers, which, as they say, you don’t look into the heart, at least i don’t know how to look into their heart, but you are absolutely right that the objective result of what they do, but there will be precisely a continuation of the expansion of american participation, and even at some stage, if it becomes unprofitable for them. it will be easy for him to get out of this situation, as we know from the experience of vietnam and iraq and afghanistan in the united states, entering into such conflicts is much easier than two small turnips worthily getting out of them. you know, really. it seems to me that i am returning to my favorite thought here, the general must command someone if he
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really commands a certain american contingent and this contingent is intended for ukrainian understand the fighting-this is one situation. if he commands his assistants and simply coordinates. this is a completely different situation. here i can vouch for e without evidence. that the first thing this general will do is gather his staff, gather his own intelligence. they will very quickly come to the conclusion that in order to fulfill the american tasks, there are not enough forces and washington will require these forces for a couple of divisions, about paradigvies. i do not know, although they may require, a someone in the white house will start. yes, we didn’t mean it, then it will be. naturally, how it is mysteriously conveyed to the press and it will be announced that it resists the defense of ukraine, and then ukraine
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will be met halfway. from my point of view, this is an uncontrollable and dangerous situation, and your main question arises, from which they started, and they lead what they are doing, that's the point dmitry, uh, you know, uh, politics is the art of the possible. and when you said that it is not beneficial for biden to continue this military conflict. uh, on the eve of the next presidential election in 24 , you, of course, meant that biden is beneficial for ukraine to win with american support, but this is impossible, and politics is an art. perhaps, if we talk about the possibility, then let's say the program, the minimum of the possible, but in fact of the possible program, the maximum for biden is the continuation of this conflict and the absence of defeat and the collective west and ukraine by the twenty- fourth year. and here again arises the threat of escalation, but you quite rightly mentioned dmitry. uh, the upcoming elections are
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relentless. and now, back in november , the us midterm elections are approaching, despite the fact that many leaders of the republican party support the supply of weapons to ukraine and support the anti-russian consensus that has developed in the american political community. here i present. it is believed that this hybrid war against russia could not glue american society and the american political system, but on the basis of a new global confrontation because the united states remains fundamentally divided and many, like washington post senior editor mark fisher , are wondering if the united states is no longer heading towards a political civil war? i think they are already in it, but to the military civil war, because such a degree of bitterness in the
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political struggle is such hatred for political opponents. and such a deep and wide split that we are seeing in the united states now we have not seen since the fifties and sixties of the xix century, that is, 50-60 years of the 19th century. this is the beginning of the civil war. exactly, and dmitry, here is an interesting point you said that the general war in the sense that it is supported by both republicans and democrats did not stick together, the american society. that's exactly one reason why she didn't stick together, that's because this war is based on consensus, and the american foreign policy establishment, which is basically either for the war or does not want to oppose it speak out, and for reasons of career expediency and so on, but if you're talking about
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the american population of the american voters in general. polls show that american voters are ready to endure this war, maybe even sympathize with this war, but this war is by no means a priority for him and it is absolutely not ready to unite around biden, as the military leader of american society. but let's see to what extent. eh, already reached from roskol. here's what president biden says about their political rivals the republicans and especially those who support trump. the present moment can be the beginning or the death knell for the extremist philosophy of the magician , it's not just about trump, it's a whole philosophy that underlies what i would say is similar to semi-fascism. now let's see how trump responds in such situations,
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never remaining in debt. our schools newsrum our boardrooms everywhere are now dominated by ultra left fascists, they require you to proceed with the law if you don't speak their language. don't get involved. allah do not echo their mantras and do not follow their commands, you will be turned up by a zuera, they will make you an outcast, they will pursue, blackmail and punish. this is what will happen to all of us. well , you know dmitry when you hear such things. i want to ask a question to both you and andronicus. have you heard these kinds of revealing statements about the united states by putin and other russian leaders? no dmitri i didn't hear that and it seems to me that the democrats- republicans today are in a state of a much more bitter war with each other
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than russian-american relations, and in my memory there really has not been anything like it since the civil war in the united states for republicans and democrats to call each other fascists, accuse each other of fascism. and this is not only some kind of quirk of an elderly biden or an elderly trump. i recall the recent speech of george soros, one of the main apologists for the democratic party at the davos forum, he named the members of the supreme court united states appointed by president trump by extremists, that is, to a similar degree. wait, but really there was no time. e civil war on the ancients in all you still agree. you know, i must say that when in 2008, after a rather long break, i came to work with a professor visa in 1991 in 2008, i came to work.
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the first thing, of course, struck me. it seemed to me that i was at the beginning of gorbachev's perestroika in the soviet union, and then i turned attention and spoke to all those with whom i spoke. i say, listen, when i watch fox a, then m cis i have the impression that there are citizens in the country there is a civil war going on to me. uh, jim collins was an ambassador here, and then he worked at carnegie. well, many others say, well, you know, this is not enough rhetoric. so, nothing of the sort. since the eighth year, 12 years have already passed, the situation is breaking down at a catastrophic speed and people have already reached such a level of intolerance towards each other that once what we remember with dmitry
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konstantinovich, that the republicans and democrats could so disperse the ail through the corridor negotiate with the opposite party , representatives of this party in congress in the senate. it now seems unthinkable, as if it's all gone. and it will never come back. and this is how i feel. er, i want to tell you. you probably know about it yourself, but for our audience. the other day the president of the american association of american historians is a prestigious centrist, and, in general, quite a liberal organization. here he directed how he does every a month, but a letter, and to the members of his organization, not on behalf of the organization, his personal message, where he
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said that, in general, he has problems with how history is covered in america, that it is too politicized, that people from other countries are judging countries and other periods, as if they were our contemporaries absolutely, without giving historical content. and that, as it were, for the quality of american historical science. it is very dangerous. after 2 days, he had to publicly repent, because there was a storm of indignation storm indignation. first, of course, from the side of african-american historians, then from the side of the liberals, but, and then from the side of many others who, as they once spoke in the brezhnev soviet union. and where did you go? uh-huh why are you uh, rocking the boat, uh, no one touches us. we can receive our grants. and you climb somewhere
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and framed us, and you know that the most unique thing is when in the soviet union and in the late seventies in the early eighties. there were such condemnations of some dissidents academy stood up for its members. you know, even sakharov was never able to be expelled from the academy and, in general, they didn’t try very hard, but in america people are immediately expelled for this . there is such an expression, kantsl kaucha, yes. cancel you are cancelled. it's already torn. here you are no more. uh, no one has issued any decree about this, we just, except for the fox channel can be conservative, you are not allowed anywhere else, your name is not mentioned. you don't even
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vilify you anymore. well, i don't know who thinks about this, but my american colleagues with whom i am not so much. i’m talking about the topic, because talking about this topic is now considered not politically correct, even dangerous. well, i'll tell you something that no one, or almost no one intercedes in such cases. it speaks volumes about the state of american society. dmitry, i completely agree with you, and today the freedom of scientific discourse in russia is incomparably greater than in the united states, where simply totalitarian traditions prevail. that's how the cancellation culture you mentioned and this is not the only one. unfortunately, the episode with the president of the historical society. e in the united states society of historians. this is what you correctly drew an analogy, this makes the nature of american scientific and public discourse, essentially totalitarian where, if you do
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not adhere to the party line, you are excluded and for the time being excluded intellectually and here it is rational and i want to give another analogy with e, the similarity of the united states to the late soviet union is a distrust of institutions, because that's what characterized. uh, really late gorbachev's soviet union is the indifference and distrust of ordinary soviet citizens to soviet allied institutions in the united states now the same distrust of the electoral constitution distrust of law enforcement agencies after searches at donald trump's distrust of the fbi distrust of the supreme court distrust of the rule of law . this is extremely dangerous. here, distrust in basic state institutions also characterizes a fundamental crisis, but the question is probably the final one, which i
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i want to ask you both. now, i wouldn't gloat about this deepest internal crisis that the united states is in because, in my opinion, than is more turbulent. as american domestic policy becomes even more irresponsible and dangerous , their foreign policy becomes, because the united states, from the side of the administration and from the side of congress, begins to take foreign policy steps based not on an objective national interest, but on the basis of the domestic political situation. do you agree dimitri, who knows? i am very short. i would like to say that today in the united states we see two phenomena that we mocked and believed that it was only inherent in, the totalitarian regime or communism and so on. back then in the seventies we said that russia or the soviet union was a country with an unpredictable
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past, or we said what is history? this is today's policy, overturning the past def. well , now i want to say a very important thing. it's a pity if i knew that we would get here. i would take with me i would, of course, quote, but i want to say 1831 came only to america in 1800 in the thirty-fifth year he published a book about democracy in america dmitry what you said word for word coincides with the section called ducks will tyranny of the majority. it's something incredible. you can say, on any occasion, any thing, but as soon as the majority has accepted some opinion. if you suddenly go against it, you are not a person, they will not shoot you, you will not be put in jail, but you are not
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a person, they stop communicating with you invite your kids e don't see point blank. i want to say only one thing dmitry you are right, only narrow-minded people will gloat about problems and dangerous trends. in another superpower, on the other side. only narrow-minded people will be sick with night blindness and refuse to see these problems dmitry andronikov. thank you so much for an endlessly interesting conversation. the big game will continue in a few moments. hitler is my godfather the son of his father's gauleiter of poland . i despise with every fiber of my soul he ordered destroy several million people the grandson
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american foreign policy drive and foreign policy, it is still determined by liberal or neo-conservative hawks who insist that a war must be waged with russia , or rather, a war must be waged against russia to a victorious end. a monstrous misunderstanding of the meaning of russian foreign policy and, in general, a monstrous misunderstanding of russia as such. sometimes it just makes your hair stand on end. here, listen to the opinion of two experts who, in principle, are considered almost not the most authoritative specialists on russia in the united states today, this professor at georgetown university angela i uh researcher at the bryunik institute, and in the recent past, special adviser to the president bide e president trump on russia e. fiona hill listen to what they wrote in a large-scale article in the
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top american forrinoves magazine. vladimir putin is determined to shape the future to look like his version of russia's past president invaded ukraine. not because that he felt threatened by the expansion of the natu or due to western provocations. he ordered his special military operation because he believes it is russia's divine right to rule ukraine to destroy the country's national identity and integrate its people into a great russia of manipulation. putin with history suggest that his claims go beyond ukraine extend to europe and eurasia the baltic states may be on his colonial agenda as well as poland, part of which was under russian rule from 1772 to 1918, most of present-day moldova was part of the russian empire, and russian official vices suggested that this state could be next in their sights. finland was also part of the russian empire from 1809 to 1918, and
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putin may not succeed. to fight these countries, but his extravagant statements about the return of russian colonies are designed to intimidate his neighbors and unbalance them in his ideal world. putin will get leverage and control over them politics, threatening them until they allow russia to dictate its foreign and domestic policy in the medium and long term in the united states. their allies and partners should discuss how to restructure the international and european security architecture to prevent russia from attacking other neighbors it considers in its sphere of influence, but at the moment nato is the only institution that can guarantee the security of europe sergey sergeevich well, i think everything is clear russia an expansionist evil that will never stop and therefore it must simply be defeated, yes, the races must be defeated forever, and the european security system must be based on nato, that is, against russia quite right. the fact is
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that fiona is frail, no wonder why she is . the fact is that she is a very good specialist. she decently worked her astrobe telbat. they are very familiar. i remind you, sling telbat. this is exactly the person, uh, who speaks excellent russian and has been an adviser for a long time bella clinton specifically in russia. he still remains in power, because he is a temnevikov who perfectly understands what is happening at the daivis center at harvard university, but just started to play pranks. the fact is that fiona hilla she perfectly understands the balance of power in the post-soviet space, because what about specialists in the post-soviet space. i believe that gradually they receive certain orders step by step. for such articles. i carefully read this article there, by the way, it ’s huge, and the block is dedicated to the baltic countries, so that the baltic countries should be most afraid , because as they call the three baltic sisters. in the near future they will be completely occupied. i believe that this article is custom-made, it is aimed primarily, but at making the classic uh, the image of the enemy from
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russia and the solution that is not given. to the bottom of a military decision, perhaps, i believe that there are a number of articles that come out not only in the form of fes, because not so long ago there was an article in which it was said about 150,000 military men who can decide the outcome of the war or the battle for moscow, or well, not for kiev, the battle for moscow. i was very surprised how they could launch such phrases. battle for moscow it turns out that they are ready to attack moscow, but they calculated that 150,000 american soldiers have now been deployed. they will be able to fully support the kiev regime. you know, ford fs has always been a very respected publication for me. you know that each of us from a political scientist to international affairs once really wanted to publish in this publication, he thought that it very cool because it was, uh, i guess it was sort of, not that everyone wanted a nobel for that oscar, but now, you know, i'm very surprised. why is there such degradation? why is the degradation of
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these professionals and does not grow new professionals? look, there were good sovietologists and cool ones. you just talked to dimitri himself here today. i talk to many europeans about it, but they personify it. probably in the top three of the top five of the best specialists, and in the post-soviet space and in russia, but that school doesn’t exist now, look , there isn’t a single university in america that is now preparing specialists in russia, they recruit ukrainians who they are ready to tell them, they take russian defectors to themselves, but this is not professionalism. this is purely conjuncture, but does not answer in any way. realities i believe that with such articles they lead only to inciting conflicts. and most importantly, they show themselves as a weak power. well, here are russia specialists now in the united states. unfortunately, angela is being trained. stand. this is the opinion that we have now heard at georgetown university and is being prepared by the relevant specialists. you mentioned
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a telbot strobe, indeed it is a close friend of bill clinton's deputy secretary of state of the united states in the nineties, but i wouldn't say a telbot strobe. with all the ariola, a specialist in russia is a really good specialist in russia, because it was this person who was one of the authors of the idea of nato expansion to the east at one time in the nineties. and in fact, there is no e good specialists, not in the republican establishment, not in the democratic one. now, if anyone thinks that with the move of the united states congress under the control of the republican party, which will most likely happen at the beginning of this year or with the arrival of the republican president in the twenty- fifth year, the policy of the united states will somehow fundamentally change towards russia no i should disappoint no fundamental change will be. here, listen to another opinion published in the same fs form. it
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the opinion of two prominent republicans senator from alaska dan sallin and president of the international republican institute daniel twining. us president joe biden and donald trump do not agree on much, but their administrations together took the most important turn in us foreign policy since the 9/11 terrorist attacks centered strategy around systematic great-power rivalry with china and russia nonetheless approached this geopolitical collapse exclusively, as a competition, does not reveal all the essence and makes it difficult the support of the population by presidents in making difficult political decisions in the face of generational confrontation a more accurate description of this new international dynamic is authoritarian aggression. as evidenced by russia's invasion of ukraine and rising chinese threats to swallow taiwan by force, for almost a century, american presidents have viewed asia and europe as theaters of war that,
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if they were under hostile control , would expose us national security. extreme risk. both of these theaters are under threat today, whether predatory dictatorships should be allowed to gobble up democracies with impunity. to neighbors freedom will be threatened everywhere, including in the united states, for me personally, this reminds me of the truman doctrine and the domino theory of the so-called domino theory of truman's secretary of state dean atchison that if somewhere in any part of the globe comes to power, the communist government is a threat to the whole world, including a threat to the national security and freedom of the united states, but there is a nuance in the forties of the last century, just when trumpeting and hitching, the united states accounted for 40% of world gdp, about 70% of industrial production, and so on, and the global south did not have any subjectivity at all, about the ingenious system was today everything not so today, the united states
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is already the second economy in the world, and not the first role in the united states of the world economy is decreasing, not increasing the global south, alexander vyacheslavovich has an increasing subjectivity the united states in these new conditions can allow you to do what vining and sullivan recommends, that is, to reproduce the global cold war, and not, for starters, have to regain 40 or 50% of the world's gdp. how how to kill everyone else, because the only thing that will allow them to maintain superiority, and not hiding that their strategy is to maintain superiority is to restrain the development of everyone else, it doesn’t matter through the green agenda that sax began in 2005. eh, running. e. this december is humpbacking and carbon taxes and the carbon exchange in chicago, or through uh, a trade war, or through a crisis that we're about to come to, or through a debt crisis. see what they're doing. uh, their satellites. well, it's the same
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in europe. yes, it's just crazy when they refuse energy carriers, when we see how the production is closed. uh, metallurgical uh, fertilizer chemical production uh they don't know how they survive the winter. because look here three e 1.500. e dollars for 1,000 cubic meters. let's count in rubles. here i am crying for gas 6 rub. 16 kop. but they will pay two 210 rubles. these are exchange prices, not buses, that is, for a consumer, a cube of gas will cost 500 rubles. or more. yes, that's our money. here imagine i ca n't imagine. uh, i understand why they are standing in line for firewood there, why is this being done, so that the gdp of the european union is also dropped by the plinth further china yes, if they start such a tough confrontation, if they start, uh, provoking taiwan, then they are preparing to break trade links develop trade chains bring down
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china's economy now it's more difficult, because in the fifteenth year, when china held three trillion dollars of reserves there, which saw a gigantic provoked capital from china, more than half of the free reserves were lost there. it's just that there was such an anti-korean company china will now fall hysteria was whipped up on wall street and, uh, all these direct investments and portfolio investments. they just take the money. we watched it as china, uh, barely withstood it all. and so. eh, just such a strategy will allow them after they bring down everything in a crisis to start a new cold war. well, here is a country or an example of a country that does not pursue a suicidal policy, and it is also a kind of symbol or one of the symbols of the multipolar world and one of the reasons why the united states will not be able to replay the cold war this is turkey, which on the one hand helps ukraine with bayraktars, on the other hand, it qualitatively builds up trade and economic relations with
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russia and conducts an independent foreign policy everywhere, by the way, has not yet given. the consent to the entry of sweden into nato and the average states in finland, this independence of turkey is causing increasing indignation both at the level of administration and the congress level, here is the influential us senator bob minendo with robert memdes, who under obama headed the international committee with nato, now he just called the senator turkey, speaking true in athens, but nevertheless one of the main world threats, and accused erdogan of pursuing a policy of division in eastern europe, and the deputy finance of the united states already now, uh, dressed ademo sent a letter to the union of industrialists and entrepreneurs of turkey tussiad - this is one of the main business associations of turkey in which it directly threatens them with secondary sanctions if they do business with russian natural legal entities, which are included
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to the us sanctions list vladimir alekseevich and how will ankara react to this increased american pressure and ultimatum. you know after discussing the oddity of the united states of america to discuss the oddities of turkey is difficult enough? uh, two words so provocative to think about, uh, all those angel stands, uh, stands and all. why think and they did not come to moscow and did not contact here, they did nothing. this is a very important serious question. never dreamed of being published in uniform. fed always. i said that it is necessary to develop domestic science. it seems to me that right now the moment has come when we can nationalize ourselves, this is what what turkey has been doing in recent years. she was the right hand of the united states in the region. it has been a fully controlled player since 2002. its leader, rzhev taip
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erdogan, is trying to move away from the pro-american course, knows that it is a more independent player. whether it turns out somewhere it turns out somewhere not, the following is obvious. carry out a policy of two chairs, she tries to be both there and there and enjoy. i would even say a lot, right? yes, it's still much wider, she's trying to use her geopolitical position, proclaiming itself a hub, the center through which the trade routes north, south, west, east pass. in addition, turkey , uh, is trying to be a diplomatic boor. yes, she is now trying to lure away part of the function, which, uh, was taken over by such neutral states as switzerland. yes, turkey is trying, and quite well. you have to admit to doing it. eh, although there is an error. yes, that is, at the same time she very accurately said that she also supplies bayraktars to ukraine yes, and they receive orders from the hands zelensky well, at the same time, to develop constructive partnerships with moscow, it is successfully implementing various trade,
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large infrastructure projects, transcopy, transcendental gas pipeline. yes, and the turkish stream operates with russia a constructive economic partnership has been established, but this does not negate the fact that turkey is pursuing a proactively offensive foreign policy, with which we often, to put it mildly, do not agree, but the difference between us and the united states is that we do not break through the knee, but trying to find points contact, whether in the south caucasus or in central asia in the near and middle east. this was successfully done as part of creating a triangle. uh, russia turkey iran and here. eh, it must be said that the characteristic. uh, turkey as the main threat to the world is absolutely correct. the main threat to peace and security. today. this is the power that behaves like an elephant in a china shop, this is the united states of america and turkey, uh, poses a certain threat in the event of the development and aggression of foreign policy, but until then
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while turkey is interested in its geopolitical. eh, here is this approach. uh, turkey is a hub. yes, turkey is a center, but it won't overstep the bounds, and, uh, let's say, it has learned to interact quite clearly with many regional players. uh, with many neighbors, including moscow, no matter how difficult it is, and here, uh, two more points that you said is a split, yes, which turkey is at night, well, indeed, turkey greece is now having another aggravation. yes, every year my friends and i ho- well, that is, every year it is happening. this is fine. nothing new. no, two nato members are trying to set each other up. eh, it's all right. and i think we can watch. uh, how they float along the river, so to speak, yes, we can watch it. uh, turkey itself does everything. she is not interested, the entry of sweden to finland, it is ready to give in if its conditions are met and completing. uh, it's very important that the minister of economy, i think, of turkey said that the
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united states cannot tell turkey uh and turkish entrepreneurs how to behave with whom will i pay attention? a very important thing turkey has two such large trade unions. this is chusya from and myusya from the americans turned precisely to everywhere. uh, who is connected to the opposition to a greater extent , uh, and who tends to increase in popularity, and to turkey next year's elections. it is very serious. it seems to me that russian-turkish relations are a very good case of normal relations in a multipolar world, when many contradictions are simply absolutely normal. uh, it's important to be able to find common interests a and unwillingness to just destroy fundamentally destroy each other, unlike russian western relations, but while uh, the united states threatens turkey with secondary sanctions in the west, there are more and more publications that their primary sanctions against russia are working somehow not so
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russia e did not collapse at the time, as in the west there is just a panic about what is happening. and the deepening socio-economic crisis and uh, there are publications about what is the reason the fact that sanctions do not work, as they were thought by their initiators. here magazines are asleep, that the reasons are, firstly, this is a temporary varnish, uh, which gives russia the opportunity to adapt to sanctions, and secondly, of course, the lack of universality of sanctions by the vast majority of countries outside the world. almost all non-western countries did not support the sanctions, for their part, they cite such reasons for the weakness of the sanctions in terms of their ability to bring down russia in the first place. russia has had 8 years to prepare since 2014. secondly, russia created world payment system. third, russia is successfully localizing production and, uh, supply chains. and fourthly, the rise in energy prices, and
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alexandra vyacheslavovich, do you agree with these reasons and is there another reason why the sanctions do not work the way the reasons were indicated in a note written by fyodor tyutchev nikolai back in 1849. he wrote that the west has always studied russia through blinders of hatred and ignorance. and this ignorance, when they said what russia is 3% of world gdp, they forgot that russia is built into 38% of the world value chains at the level of basic materials, without which the world cannot do without some kind of digital technology. you can do without netflix. you can do without facebook there and instagram is fine. yes, but without electricity, without energy, without food. you will not manage, and even like without metals, without cement , without fertilizers. and er, here, yes, the economist he writes the reasons. the first is that
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emergency measures were taken in the field of finance and the economy, and they worked, indeed stopped, the outflow capital and protected their own markets. here are the decrees of president putin, there was a whole series of them at the end of february and beginning of march, the second thing is that the russian economy really knows how to adapt and we have lived through four crises over the past 25 years, and we know how the population and business are instantly rebuilt. and another reason that they say that it is indeed energy carriers, because energy turned out to be so important, that is, they themselves created a crisis for themselves before this, uh, in fact, well, the twenty-first year, yes, the year of the energy crisis, which is now complemented by problems of drought, yes, and the problems of china are intensifying further. everything will only get worse, but uh, in order to maintain even the current level of production, uh, oil and gas, it was necessary to invest the day before yesterday. e, the industry has received less than
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400 billion oe over the past 5 years, due to investment. we need another trillion. they are not, and will not be all the guys. we are in the real world. i'll ask for an offer. now it is not dictated by your demand by your supply of our e-energy carriers. that's when we read article, such as the one that angela stents fiona hill published on the pages of foreign face, we can not but agree with how right fyodor tyutchev was, you quoted him today that the west is looking at russia through blinders of hatred and ignorance and for 100 seconds the situation in american analytics and in the western approach towards russia has by no means improved in the extra years that have passed since tyutchev wrote this. we will now break for commercials and continue in a few moments. this is my office, not a front yard.
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