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i think there is a different version. well, which one are you leaning towards? well, i think so. pavel looked after elena very beautifully. i am surprised at the number of letters that he sent me, i read them, and i absolutely did not see any catch, firstly, and now you see, i think it was, it looks a little like hypnosis. pavel very quickly became friends with elena's daughter. the fact is that for me the relationship between a man and my daughter is still very important, and for me it was. well, some such a test for him rather elena became a victim of a swindler and decided to share what had happened to hush up somehow to help him survive. this is the whole story i definitely do not want a novel to the sophirists. i, uh, wanted to clarify one more point, that there were also threats from pavel, and there was suicide. yes, and almost veins, he cut, and this is in connection with which he
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really cut the veins. yes, he explained that this is just depression due to the fact that there are so many problems. and what, here he suddenly, but found his happiness, and somehow they don’t give him this happiness. here the world does not give him this happiness and tries in every possible way to take him away from partly from happiness in the form of me. yes, it probably worked the hardest. yes, i think that in fact the events took place from two sides, because on the one hand i was here with this endless trust. infinite pity will surrender with the expectation that now something good, good, bright will happen, and everyone will be happy. well, at least the lawsuits are over. we'll cure cancer, er, and so forth, but on the other hand, and i guess there was a wife who wanted the same he came, not only during the day to her house, but also at night, because i have a yellow tone. therefore, i think
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that you suspected. i met her. when ah. here, just a moment after the suicide, i immediately realized that a person really can no longer control his emotions. i realized that while he was in the hospital, well, according to my version. that is, i only know this part, and i met with her in order to, uh, firstly, say that a actually , the day before, she called me. she said that he felt very bad. we broke up, he is very feels bad. uh, please don't leave him , your wife is like that. yes, she said our relationship is all over. we're just not formally divorced. we are not formally divorced precisely because of the litigation. uh-huh and for bills and so on. there is still hope to save something there, we are not divorced. and you please, just do not interfere with him to meet with the child. i say, believe me, it's not
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in my best interest. and moreover, i myself raise my child alone and i understand how important it is for him to communicate with two parents. so of course hmm i can promise you. actually, when i already met, it was we had a telephone conversation with her. moreover, she even asked me when i returned to moscow to meet with him, because he was completely upset. uh, alcohol and sadness. in general, ugh. that's it, and she cares. i, as it were, naturally in the father of my child, and it also seemed to me that this was quite a normal normal story. well, a little strange, of course, that your lover's wife is calling you all in their own names, but in general, the same thing happens, really. uh-huh calls and says don't quit him. they say it, don't leave it. really. in principle, you can be wary so many times, but you agreed. yes, i agreed, apparently, i watched a lot of films like this . and when we met, uh, i
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explained to her that, of course, i was very sad that everything came to suicide. and let's somehow agree. he probably, well, somehow feels awkward in this whole situation that we have two of him alone, and this causes some emotional reactions in him. let's somehow agree, because i am certainly interested in what this is my man. i love him so he 's okay. and you certainly are interested in the fact that the father of your child was also. in general, in sound mind. what did he say? well, in principle, yes, they decided everything is fine, everything is fine. well, how would we look at each other. once again, i promised not to interfere. e him to meet with the child. and actually, we parted ways. and when you realized that in fact the wife is also somewhat involved, and began to er, began to suspect something. now i'll tell you about a half
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years of our acquaintance. well, just suspect suspect somewhere six months after our meeting with her. am, but in those moments when i had , apparently, some kind of veil in front of my eyes, pavel came and resolved this situation with some next story, which in fact i started my friends to me. familiar friends began to send their joint photos, because then before we continue to talk with you. let's listen to your girlfriends who really watched from the side happened to you and spaul and what were their reactions? he gave the impression of a sweet , modest person, he was shy. well, i didn’t talk much, so it was immersed, as it turned out, all in lenta. so with the base, because there were, in principle, generally impossible for scammers in it. he was absolutely directed at her saying, modest such a
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thin person, he is not not not hot eyes, he does not look like swindlers they are always very trying to please. they, like you, always want to climb, trust you. he's completely so wise. on the contrary, it seemed to me that here, and the guys met each other and fell in love, and now they have love. that's why. they do, but they pay, but as lena told me. here is such a, uh, tragedy with uh health business. i say that i have always treated the line as a very, well, serious woman businessman with such, as it were , even a masculine character, somewhere i could not imagine that she lives with the present. like this e. and i don’t know how to call him a crow, munhouses, or what? once there was a situation interesting, i saw pavel with a girl by his behavior it was clear that this girl. in general, not just his companion for dinner. and she has
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a relationship with them. and they are close enough. i wrote a text message to lena saying, lena where are you she says, and here i am in kaluga with my mother's daughter. and i say, pasha, where does yours say? oh pasha e, he lies along in the hospital in some serious condition. well, maybe some kind of just a tragic story. to my surprise, lena then continued the story with him anyway. just understand this. it's one thing when you a sane person, not connected by relationships, especially by feelings, and with this person, how could you put some things from her stories. uh, because you see and uh speak your point of view, and another uh thing, when you look at this man through the eyes of a loving woman, but this one, in principle, was bet. that is,
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even obvious inconsistencies that have already begun to seep, so to speak, in front of your common ones. uh, friends don't bother you. this is just the moment, uh, this is my old friend, who i know, there years, 15. um, in fact, from the moment she met them uh in a bar. yes , mine began, some new round of our relationship began, the path of insight, the path of insight. and yes, the way of insight. actually, from that day on , i really was at the dacha of my parents with my daughter , went to them for the weekend, and tried to communicate with him at that moment, when i received a text message and photos there, moreover, what did he start writing to me for? what are you, how can you? i told you i'm in the hospital. yes, it's not me at all it’s generally, i don’t understand what it’s about, and who was his companion, his wife is important yeah yes well
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, it’s true, at that moment he told me that this was some kind of general friend whom he had known there for many years too. uh, some acquaintance of his friend who was also at dinner. yes, you can't see anything at all. why in the hospital? and, because suddenly he drove by. there was a story, a story. that is, it's here on the go pretty fast folding version. m-m they turned out they turned out, but just from that time they already went to bed badly. e somehow not on that soil. you know what else to clarify both of your girlfriends said such a thing about how you talked about this relationship. there is such a moment in the warehouse that, as it were, you have to pay for happiness. uh-huh yes, that was his theory of his idea, you shared it. he told me at some point. you know, i generally think, and we often talk with him, there was always something to talk about. it was certain. i am very pleased, among other things. and he told me that you know, in general. there is such a theory, allegedly that hmm for real
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true happiness, you have to earn it. so ah all these troubles that hit all the troubles. yes, this is some kind of purgatory, as he himself said, through which you need to go on the road to paradise on the road to paradise. so, when we go through all this, everything will be fine and we will find ourselves. tell me, please, lena how, and he was able to persuade you. give a pin code from your credit card. well, that is, i am also such a degree. yes, i gave it myself and the card and take the card. well, he needed to withdraw money, again for a lawyer, so, uh, he was driving, just towards me, and i understood that now we will go to the bank, we will withdraw money, then we will take me back. then he will go to a lawyer. it will just take longer , and i told him that access to your card
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has become absolutely. well, there, in principle, by that time everything had already ended on the map, so she was no longer so wrong and elena believed that true happiness must be earned by all the troubles. yes, this is some kind of purgatory, as he himself said, through which you need to go through the road to paradise was reset. we are your accounts, then we are all in paradise and we will find ourselves in any situation. paul made excuses. there was a story, a story. that is, on the go, folding versions turned out quite quickly, they turned out, but just from that time they already went badly. e somehow on the wrong ground later it turned out that all this time pavel lived in two families, but on the other hand, and i suppose there was his wife, who in the same way wanted him to come not only to her house during the day, but also and at night, because i have yellow
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sofiri's novel. at what point did you realize what to say? relationships end not only because you began to suspect something and so on, but because you actually ran out of money. but natalia actually, who gave comments. she says to me, you, uh, you don't even have any money now at all. she says, i feel that he will disappear now . i say, what are you , well, how? well, he says, i don't know, he says, i have a feeling he really disappeared when we went on vacation. we corresponded, as usual, several times a day, despite how far we were from each other, and at some point, his phone just stopped working, and the message was not sent. uh, once every three or four days, the phone turned on, and literally
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there for 5 minutes. eh, and turned off again. and i must say that we are his departure. yes we are his departure. he told me what uh what? now he is very afraid of being arrested again. well, there was an arrest, in my presence deed once staged. that is, when he realized that your words weren’t working too hard, yes, then just staging was already used, yes, because at some point, of course. i, well, not that i stopped, that is, the card was reset to zero, and he knew that i still have some money that just lies in the cell. ah, but it's a cell. it's something serious, it's not like giving even a card with a pin code. yes, not what you pulled out of the envelope at home. yes, this is in general, you need to somehow go and do something. in general, the last your savings in the cell lay. it was the last money. and so, when he was arrested in front of your eyes, of course, but i must say my tip in the cell. and well, let's save him, they arrested him. not just on some day, i don’t
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know, on april 5, he was arrested on december 30. that is, in principle, it threatened that the new year would go to the bank. i'm at the bank to redeem. and so, it means that the phone stopped answering. yes, now the phone has stopped answering. e, respectively, for me it is, well, i have several versions. and yes, and also with him there were also threats. well, he told me about the threats. actually. the day before, there was actually this stab wound in the stomach, and of course i have several versions, and not all of them are one of them that he was arrested after all, but one of them that perhaps it was something more than alive a wound in the stomach and actually a person, there are no survivors at all, and somewhere there, that something is wrong here, but i drove this thought in every possible way. i had some hope that i would fly, and he knew when i
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arrived that i would fly, and he somehow. well somehow let me know, but i flew in, nothing happened. and actually nothing happened. i already started writing something to someone there, someone answered me, someone told me that no one knew or saw anything. i heard, and then my excitement grew, as it were. until i just saw him on the street one day. he just walked along komsomolsky prospekt, where i live. and, to be honest, at that moment it seemed to me that, probably, something was wrong with me, because i see, here is a man, he just walks calmly, and moreover, he is not going in the direction of our house, but he is just walking past, they ran out, they ran. no, i didn't run, i didn't run. a hmm well at that moment let's say so. i already understood everything, that is, i already understood that everything. and uh, a couple of days later he wrote to me, one of our
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mutual friends. uh wrote a message that was not related to our history , asked me absolutely some questions about travel and asked how i was doing, how i generally feel in this situation. well , of course, i became interested, i say, what do you mean, under this situation, further we we talked hmm until 6:00 in the morning. on the phone, they tried to compare some facts with some pieces of history that he had, which i had, and in fact this is how this story became. come on, finally, clear. well, what did you feel. that's when you hung up at 6:00 in the morning, but it's been a tough, tough 2 days. and for some 2 days and two nights, which were just one of them, i was angry with myself that i was so stupid. it was a pity. i do not know the destruction of the
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illusion. was it all it was the loss of love or there was no more talk of love. well, at that moment it was definitely going on. this is not going away so quickly, despite the fact that i got out of this situation quite quickly on business from an emotional point of view. on monday. i woke up. i realized that i need to take the child to school, that these are all my illusions. all this hmm . crystal glass house. house of cards, whatever. here, all of it crumbled and i realized that i would gather myself. that i'll be fine? i didn't have any doubts about it, but i i understood that just now i need to repay the debt to the bank. ah, well, at some point there was already some kind of loan money, so i need to return it. that is, only everything, as they say, is acquired, yes, that is, there are still some more credits. yes, and i
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have, like, a business, uh, to run. now it's even twice as fast to pay off debts, so i just have a lot to do. here, i just have to quickly run now and quickly do something and time for thoughts on feeling sorry for yourself curl up cry. well, as it were, i just don’t have it, almost immediately i’m without it, since the phone didn’t work for him. that is, he was he changed his phone. and i had to find this phone there and talk to him rather coldly and calmly. actually no other. i could no longer be, and i offered him to sign a loan agreement, which he signed. how did you meet? that's when something is called? terrible. this is the most terrible thing. well, i was shaking. i took off the rings, well, not wedding such engagements, let's call them so throwing them there, you know , emotionally. it's terrible. that's what it was.
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well, you knew what you were dealing with already. well, so to speak, that this is a swindler, that it is simple, well , practically, if it was a lie from the first minute, then this is initially a bet on you. it's just you were his business project. very successful. i was the project. yes, that is, judging by everything about love, it didn’t go at all like this or not. i think that, nevertheless, he succumbed to some emotions somewhere. yeah, otherwise it would be difficult. well, that is definitely business project, but still some feelings were present. he makes me want to believe it. don't take it. me. this is hope, i don’t want to believe that there were some feelings after all. and how did you explain to eve your daughter as a result, who has been watching in your house for several years. here is pavel and, probably, he also thought that it was some kind. well, likeness or family, she's not even likeness, that is, she began to dream about the second child
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to actually take. yes, yes, brother, or sister, she almost chose a dress for me and, well, considering some girly magazines. yes, she looked and spoke. oh, this is what i don't like. here we are, without princesses, if possible, in fact, even this was not even discussed, it never went under her. explained hmm i'm very lucky to have a baby. i did not have to explain anything, how it is, and she saw almost everything. itself. that same saturday, when i closed myself in the bedroom and said eva please, she said, i understood everything, and she asked for water, she was from the very water that they would bring you, and then old age needed it in in the middle of life, she brought water. hmm well, looking at my eyes and you understand that she is a very sensitive child in this sense, she hugged me and said. well, i'm not going anywhere from you.
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i want you and i to interrupt for a while and listen to alexander kitch, his psychologist who conducts trainings for women, and how to protect yourself from gigolos, if a to us, for example, uh, is a woman who has a certain. the status is high, then she is surrounded, of course, not by simple gigolos. let's say that enough. so well-read stylish exterior with a. e, good, but with creativity with such let's say e. well, uh, being able to make the right impression by chatting is a plus. uh, there are also topics of what i am in a very difficult situation right now. eh, as here it used to be they used to say that i was either a future cosmonaut or a scout? it worked very well now the theme of the astronauts is not relevant. but the topic of what i have to do with the special services, or i, in fact, is actually not
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simple. i am now being persecuted there by people because of some kind of mafia structures, if we are talking specifically about a male alphonse, then as a rule, if a woman contacts him, then she has a very serious inferiority complex that has not been worked out, either on the topic of age, or on the topic of defects in appearance or on the topic of character, and uh, for a while she was looking for worthy men, but uh, she couldn’t build the right ones with them relationship. and then the bar is already lower and lower and lower and now, then alphonse just uses it. well, yes, the portrait of the elphonse is described the portrait, er, is described perfectly. everything is right, it is, and the portrait is actually the same woman who comes across in
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alphonse networks. yes rather rather it is, but in my case it was e as i said such a transition towards a woman in the family of my wife's mother, e mistress and so on, i can’t say that i was not economic. before. i just didn't have time for it. uh-huh alexander said some very important things about the inferiority complex there. i think that, after all, a complex usefulness can be very diverse, in my case it was just a usefulness, that i am not up to women, even women. i understand everything about business. yes, and here just in elementary things. here, in such softness, sincerity did not reach here. and here it seems like, well, it’s not like that. i can say that i didn’t get it in soulfulness, but i didn’t get it. that's probably in some hmm i just didn't have it. uh-huh yes, i have not had such a moment or such a period in my life when i would be just
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a woman and at home. pavel signed the papers, as i understand it, but did not return the money to you. he gave away only $10,000 of the total amount. uh huh, almost immediately the next payment was due on august 1st. it didn't happen and never happened again. none of the payments on our schedule. and what can be done about it? nothing, is it possible? you will fight, of course, and even if you have to plant, but in this case, why not? and the heart does not skip a beat. no , definitely not anymore. not exactly since last spring. elena personally gave her beloved the pin code of her credit card, the card was reset to zero. he knew that
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i had some more money just sitting in the safe. these were generally your last savings in the cell lay. yes, it was the last money. once elena thought that she was starting to go crazy, he told me that, probably, something was wrong with me, because i see, here's a man, he just walks calmly, and moreover, he doesn't go towards our house, but he just goes past elena believes that, despite everything, there was love. he makes me want to believe it. don't take it. me. this is hope. i want to believe that some feelings were still a little experiment. uh, just and decided to ask around about completely different there a woman of men on the street and where has found an opportunity, as well as regarding how a woman a man relates to being a woman. and here are the results we got on the fact that men looked after
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us and paid for us. well, things are different now. now all the girls are paying to date the woman possesses. greater financial well-being than a man to his girlfriend and take money. i think that yes, it is possible and it can, but i think the strength of my character and the importance of a man in general, as such, he will never take money. if he indeed, men consider themselves completely wrong, if you are a man, as if you should not take at all, and he should earn money and bring. i think it's ok, right? quite why there are not many options for all sorts of emissions and get out of the situation. we women go out, we go to you, we take a loan or in some other way, or something can come up with something. i don't see anything
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wrong with a man taking money from women. in fact , he thinks it’s not normal, because a man should actually earn, and a woman is as the builder of his family hearth. she has to manage his money. here a woman has achieved that now it is quite, how can men take it from women. if you think it's shameful or bad. i don't think so. after all, we are all civilized people, and such problems between a man and a woman should not arise, as it were, maybe, just all this should be. i think yes is absolutely fine. why not. well, uh, the situation, what and if to discuss it, if, for example, uh, the girl is wealthy herself? and you, well you live with her, and she says, dear. i don't want you to walk around in those shoes for 2,000 rubles there. let's buy for 20. yes. well, for example, i ca n’t afford to buy for 20,000 rubles. well, let her buy then. i will go to her in these shoes
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for 20.000 8, that's what to do with it. yul, if someone in the store came up to me and asked a question , is this right or wrong? i would say, of course, and wrong, of course, a woman should not give money, and, of course, she should spend a man’s money, and i think that’s what she said would. uh, what actually, what almost all the heroines of this question said, but i'm more interested in the answers of men who say men, civilized people can yes, equality, why don't women give me money. and so, how are you with this? well, i would say so gender shift on the face of the word gender swear words on the face. well, this is what we have achieved. i'm afraid that yes, i'm afraid that in this return this target story, as it were, ah back. no let's stay with men and women. let's do it anyway. this is not to lose. well maybe,
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yes, probably, we should do it unconditionally, just as we turned it over. the whole story is in a completely different direction, but where else to start? yes , for each of you to start the most important thing - this is you, and the most important thing - this is your inner feeling. your some inner dignity is yours. and the understanding that even if you are alone, even if you don’t have a child, or you suddenly don’t have a man at some point, then you appreciate it in itself, it turns out that the story of meeting with pavel returned you to the starting point. you said not to trust men, then they said, uh no, i'll be a girl. but today i will cook borscht and begin to trust. today you again say not to trust, that is your conclusion, is it mine? well, i can not say not to trust. ah. i'll say check now, i'm definitely thinking about relationships on how my next relationship will turn out. uh-huh and to be honest, a year ago. i
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thought i would never trust anyone in my life. no man comes near. here's a meter. no, come closer, but subject to very strict control. yes he will you will recheck every step he takes. i will double-check, most likely, not all men will be ready for this, not everyone will not agree, it's just difficult, but it is. that's how my life turned out, unfortunately. beautiful while you are now in a relationship or so to speak in a mink? no, i'm not in a mink, well, that is, i'm more in the relationship of breakfasts, lunches and dinners. that's how the movie walks somehow. that's how wary i am. yes, i've warned you a little.
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