there are strict checks, but cherepanov managed to smuggle weapons into the car. although such information, one of the accompanying blocks of his last name was seriously injured, but he survived and he told everything the next day after the crime was committed. nikolai cherepanov helps his brother escape from the zone, the investigation found that he bribed the security guard with diamonds, or the skulls were diamonds, perhaps, he probably knows where his dead brother hid the stolen he knows and is silent, but i can assume that he organized the sazones easier. for some part of the stolen diamonds , the researchers, the death of sazon was beneficial to the skull and he could organize his murder. i had to turn the spit for the escape, bitch, and now. come on, the coach is clear, but the bruliki should not rot either. do

n't care. no, bitch. a guy walks with me fartsia pin. the muse owes a large sum of money to the boy cherepanov of the storm sonny, or what ? he himself. that's the thought.

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resolved the issue. well, this is just a part. and what, how will you give another? i don't know until i come up with something. what is there to think about? it is clear as god's day from the zone leaned back. he has a huge batch of diamonds. here is the folder and ask no. i won't ask him for anything.

seriously sometimes, if money is needed. i don’t know how to ask her for restaurants or girls there. so i wanted to earn some money myself. and here you are i tried to get out myself. i sold my stamps and my mother's jewelry. i also wanted to sell and could not.

it became embarrassing. and so i have, well, i only have a watch . mom's gift, nothing else. 3.000 rub. this is serious money that you took that i have it. well, you have these options that your brother stole. who told you? who told you, but the one to whom you owe you is using borya well, that is four his name is you give him diamonds. he will leave me alone and that's all borya, i don't have any diamonds. he's lying. i to you i'll tell you where he lives with him hut on maryina roshcha on oktyabrskaya your twin was a killer never dare to say anything about mine, pavel brothers well, papa?

you went. i'm here. good evening, the big game is on air today,

vladimir putin said at a meeting with government members that the tactics of economic blitzkrieg against russia did not work, and against this background, the united states is focusing on the maximum delay and even more incitement of the military conflict in ukraine at the end of last week . they spent three events on this topic, president biden held a video conference with allied leaders on the need for uninterrupted military and economic assistance to the kiev regime, secretary of state blinken visited kiev and announced her intention to provide ukraine with its neighbors $2.2 billion in long-term military funding, and the minister. defense of the united states floy austin held a regular meeting of the contact group on support for ukraine at the rammstein base and announced the allocation of another package already short-term military assistance to kiev for 675 million dollars, while attracting attention, at least three things. first, the readiness of the united states to transfer ever heavier and already offensive

weapons to ukraine. just today, judoi chitaitong wrote that the pentagon is considering the possibility of transferring modern tanks to ukraine. second, uh, u.s. involvement in military conflict is getting more and more immediate the new york times writes that u.s. intelligence helped kiev in his current attempt at a counteroffensive in the kharkov region. well, finally. thirdly , it turns out that the real scale of american involvement in this conflict is much larger. what it said and bloomberg, for example, reported that the united states has been secretly transferring guided missiles to ukraine for a long time. excalibur with gps-innovation, and we will discuss these trends in american politics and their possible consequences with the president of the center for national interest dmitry simes and lieutenant general former director of the russian institute for strategic studies leonid reshetnikov dmitry leonid petrovich good evening good evening dmitry well, i want to start from the third moment, which i have highlighted, uh,

from the fact that one thing is said and another is done. that's really one of the important features of this conflict is very large. i would say in many ways a total lie, and we hear it not only from the kiev regime. there it’s just, uh, what is called without illusion, but even on the part of the united states and nato on very many issues not only in the supply of arms trust is simply undermined completely, as in this situation, in your opinion. you can, in principle, agree on something, well, dmitry has a good saying that the first victim of the war is true, i think the general will agree with me that, in general, when you are fighting, share all information with the enemy. this is not a sign of wisdom, and of course, there is conscious misinformation, quite, if

we say so, it is customary during the war, when you want to give the impression that you would step on them in one direction, although you mean in the other, but, for example, the famous soviet offensive in belarus, it was deliberately prepared in such a way that the germans had a completely different idea, so what someone says is not completely true or completely untrue on war. it seems to me not unusual that here is deliberate disinformation, as it is practiced today? it, in my opinion, is without parallel, at least in states that claim to be civilized and democratic. well, i think i am turning to you again , because you are a professional in this

matter. it is normal for the british iss intelligence to regularly issue intelligence bulletins that look more like propaganda leaflets, because it seems to me that this is a profanation of the very concept of intelligence. this is either intelligence or propaganda to make it both difficult. look what the nfc said about the kind of information campaign the united states is doing. many us officials acknowledged that the us used information. as a weapon. even when confidence in its accuracy was low, the idea is to predetermine and disrupt the kremlin's tactics to make it harder for its military campaign to undermine moscow's propaganda and prevent russia from shaping the global public's perception of ongoing military action. dimitri many, many years ago in the seventies, when i had just

arrived in the united states and i work for the well-known brain test center for strategic noble studies, radio liberty and i can tell you that at that time the instruction was, of course, a radio station openly hostile to soviet power, but there were rules, but you can’t engage in arson. you can’t make offensive statements about the power of the soviet union and, most importantly, absolutely, you couldn’t give outright lies, biased information, carefully selected information, but now i’m looking at all these numerous channels , some voices that were in moscow and now, let's say you're broadcasting from anywhere. listen such a propaganda wave is pouring, which

, let's say, the federal channels, you are here, and they didn’t dream of all people with one point of view, and everyone does n’t even pretend to be giving information, they are fighting against putin and frankly say that they are fighting against russia of course, at least for me. produces a very depressing and i am not even afraid to say repulsive impressions, but now i want to ask you the general the most important question in the light of what happened in the kharkov area do you think that the american and other western aid, which is being provided on an increasing scale to, uh, the kiev regime, that this is aid, really allowed the zelensky to get some new opportunities and go on some new offensive operations. how

seriously does russia need to take these american actions, which include huge military aid in front of me the list that has been delivered to ukraine recently 1,400 anti-aircraft stingers, 8.5 thousand jane anti-tank systems, 700 tactical drones. it's only one type. well, of course, 16, and some say more, but haim's systems. tell me, someone expressed on russian television channels and not only television channels such an opinion that, in general, this is a frivolous weapon, that ukrainians do not know how to use it. and in general, you can relate to this, but if you want, even sarcastic colleagues know you can say it boldly and nato usa england and all the allies launched a

large-scale hybrid war against russia, this is a real hybrid war, they practically managed to re-arm weapons over the past 3 months ukrainian army. with advanced weapons and soviet weapons that they received from slovakia, the czech republic, bulgaria, romania and poland, that is, the ukrainian army was re-armed, but more than that, colleagues. here are the latest fights, the latest events in the kharkiv region. they showed that they are already physically fighting, comrades, american and british special forces. they said that they did not take part in the hostilities. they take part, they are called mercenaries. well, you remember from the spanish events of 1936, how we sent the commander here

division calls mercenaries sent regular points of american power and directed guys you will be called mercenaries. well, it’s a big deal for them to hand over this one there, if you get caught or hit. sure it's so absolutely sure about these assault groups that tried and broke through the defenses. and it was these people who were on the cutting edge. all interceptions show communication in english communication in english, they did not even communicate with ukrainians, they communicated with each other and created such heads. it's all thought out a very large role, the englishman interrupted england. you said a very important thing and it is very important to understand. where did you get this confidence in your judgments? you are a professional intelligence officer. you were a lieutenant general of the foreign intelligence service,

right? well, that's right, of course. and you headed a very important institute that was engaged in intelligence analysis, but see dmitry vot about british intelligence. you said that they were engaged in propaganda, and they always dealt with them in a whole direction, as it was in the cia called. smart events all that they did in soviet times. they also set up companies. ah, propaganda. yes, they deployed them and published them, well, the british are generally lovers of this business. and they did it on such a scale, it seems to me, the scale has expanded, because england for the first time in many, many years. after the forty-fifth year, practically entered into hostilities, we even discard a small part of the special forces who are participating. although this is already a significant fact, but everything they do. they are actively involved. we now we are faced with the fact that the us and the allies are waging war with us e nato, they are waging a real war, because

these, why did i ask questions to the general in his e, korea, because i still know a little how much respect your work and your institute enjoyed. uh, when did you lead it? that is, in this case, we are talking to a person who gave professional intelligence analysis and everything that i know you. you do not throw words. this is not an assumption. this is really knowledge, yes, and a reflection of knowledge. and in continuation of what said leonid petrovich dmitry i completely agree with you. disinformation misleading opponents. these are necessary attributes of war and it is perfectly normal to expect this from an enemy with whom you are conducting hot hostilities, but after all, the united states declares that it is not a party to the war, that it is not

at war with russia, but the tools that they used in their politics is absolutely characteristic of wartime. and this is precisely the phenomenon of hybrid war, the united states may be officially at the same level. until austin or joe biden give the order to pull the trigger and pull the dill themselves. although their mercenaries do this, all other tools used in relation to russia are not peacetime tools, but wartime tools . and here is where to draw the line practically practically. you've already tricked dmitri , i think you've both done it. it must be admitted that the united states and nato have become participants in fact. i don't know how to call it a special operation from their point of view either, like special operation, because they say that we are not participants in the war, but of course, this is an active

participation in hostilities. you can say to justify the american position that america believes that they are defending the freedom and sovereignty of ukraine all you need is disinformation, but, that is, you can say, you can say that your motives, what is called clean, but, now let's ask a question then. oh, what damage, in response, russia can or should inflict on the united states, since they are already de facto a party to this conflict and pay attention to how responsibly and patiently. as long as russia behaves by saying that there is an invisible and thin line that separates, the united states from becoming already officially and directly a party to this

conflict. but patience can run out and escalation can unintentionally way, in addition, that's what really e is not something that surprises me, but i just pay attention to this as well. it is that the united states in no way disputes ukraine's display of lies and its inability to negotiate. someone scolded ukraine for saying at the presidential level that we were never going to implement the minsk agreements at all, someone said that it was bad, or the united states to the whole world, including russia, announced that they agreed with ukraine that ukraine will not use american weapons against russian territory. we agreed on the eve of ramstein, and general zaluzhny , the commander-in-chief of the ukrainian troops, publishes an article in which he writes the first thing you will do, when we get american

long-range missiles, we will hit russian territory deep into russian territory, yes, in order to bring war to the russian people, so to speak . something zaluzhnik, where is the reaction from the united states what? this is not in line with our agreement. it's already out of the way edge. dmitry where is the public reaction, where is the public reaction. but dmitry is just very interesting to ask you. what do you think? was there any reaction to such a statement at a non-public level dmitry you know, i arrived in moscow 3 weeks ago. and as you can guess me american military secrets. it's not easy to report, especially to spend an atlantic phone, but uh, those i spoke to. the transatlantic phone gave me the impression that one reason the secretary of state, damn it, had to go to

kiev is exactly how to warn the american wards in kiev so that they do not have dizziness from success and moderate their euphoria a little. well, as it were, her inclination, but to make a frankly provocative statement, she is sure that this is not the only thing that was said. i 'm sure solidarity was expressed and more was promised , but i have the impression that in the biden administration, and at least some serious people in serious positions. there is a desire to tell e this how he is say e clowns whore who are from kiev who all the time. he receives everyone and gives valuable guidance to everyone. he, in my opinion, it seems to him that he is already the head of a superpower. uh, well, i think washington has uh, and the desire to

tell him. put on the brakes a little bit, nothing fundamental needs to be changed, and we support your main decisions and are proud of your successes, but do not overdo it. balances. yes, between the already direct involvement in the war with russia and the continued support of ukraine . do you think this is precisely their strategy? well, by the way, this balance can be upset by the americans, but how can we see separate regular units, poles and british? this will be the first violation, of course, which the americans themselves can fall into , but still, if the situation develops like this, and it will probably develop anyway. so that it will be necessary to save zelensky and then

this one may appear from the guard of the knife. uh, not the americans themselves will come down. and with their approval, the british will descend. yeah, the poles, maybe someone else who will more actively get into the fighting. than now, as for the united states itself, i think they will still stay on this edge to the end, after all, this is a country that understands what war is like so many warriors waged, and i think that they have the opportunity to push others on such things, and even more so, perhaps undesirable for the united states is not under. the role of the united states is the behavior of american wards, and now dmitry you said that he was not condemned at the public level, but it is possible that it could be at a non-public level, well, a public level. it is also very important

and we remember the precedent when the united states did not go to any public condemnation or warning against its ally in 2008 . in august 2008. i mean, georgia and mikheil saakashvili yes, then at the public level then secretary of state condoleezza rice said that the united states does not abandon its allies, and we do not know what was said on a non-public level, but it is quite obvious that mikheil saakashvili interpreted these signals as carte blanche and did what he did, and there it is. in my opinion, the risk that now could happen is something that i am a very real danger absolutely right, but there is more. here i am in moscow for uh 3 weeks and talked to a variety of people. with people who work in decision makers with

people who are experts and with ordinary people. i will be very surprised. if you the foreseeable future will not be very cool. the radical and understandable russian response to what happened in kharkov to what happened in moscow, i mean, was given by dugin and much more. and i have a feeling from my conversations. well, my instincts are here. and what we see is to some extent cleaner in front of bogoria. i don’t mean literally , because the russian response, of course, you can call me a lull, but i have a feeling that some events will happen soon, including including on the fronts in ukraine, which show that russia has come to the conclusion that how, and not undesirable, to follow the path of escalation, that there is no other

way out. and when i think about the arsenal of russian opportunities to respond in ukraine i, by the way , are outside ukraine. i will give you an example. now they are saying that they will ban it from december 5th. to transport russian oil but if russia in response bans the transportation of american oil and it will be said how russia will do this, in russia there are no such insurance companies that could similarly instructed. general, you know, better than me. russia has submarines, of course, if these submarines, they won’t even sink anyone, but they will begin to appear next to the tankers and give them instructions to turn in another direction. i can assure you that these same western insurance companies are not going to want to

guarantee such things, so i think it's very important that you kind of rightly be told that washington understands that rates are going up. yes , what should i think about, not about what step can do you. what's the answer? can you call? it seems to me that they are very close to the moment of truth, i do not know the general. i hope i'm wrong. it seems to me that i am sure of this, that the concept of a special military operation will be adjusted and revised, and it will be revised because of this hybrid war that nato and the united states have launched and appropriate measures will be taken, there will be another special operation in a different way. it will go with the understanding that it has already formed against us. not just a front, but he goes, goes to uh, an attempt uh, to break russia and

russia of course, and our leadership is now in the near future your premonition. very correct. well, he will reconsider this concept that has been up to now, and whether they are petrovich. it seems to me that not only the nature of the special operation in ukraine will be reconsidered, but also the nature of the response against the united states, because as long as the united states arrives under the illusion that they are safe . they are not in danger. it is ukraine that is losing thousands and thousands of lives of critical infrastructure, the united states is leading this hybrid war, and by and large, nothing yes, well, except for high gas prices. it seems to me that this period may soon end, and the united states has a huge number of military bases around the world, a huge number of interests many of them are vulnerable and not necessarily, of course, russia will somehow directly attack american facilities, a hybrid war . yes,

hybrid warfare. but here, the main thing is not to lose control over the situation, what still worries me dmitry is what is in my opinion, but a certain degradation of the american foreign policy discus coincides with an equally profound degradation of the american domestic political discus, and both in foreign policy, including the hybrid war against russia, we see the consistent violation of many public and unspoken rules and red lines, and in the us domestic policy we see a total red line violation. total violation of the rules. games and a degree of hostility not seen since the civil war in the united states, you don't see dimitri here in a certain way. to dmitri, i see this is, of course, a general, if you like, evolution of american political culture and not in a direction that i could somehow welcome. that's what i want to tell you. uh, 40%

of americans, uh, on the last question sees the possibility and even the likelihood of a civil war in the united states. i really hope that this can still be avoided. but when you talk about people's relations in the nuclear age, they don't play with such things. of course, our uh, program is called the big game. but that's when we start talking about clash, superpowers this is no longer a game. this is what should. if you want to cause an attack of responsibility, even among the very, galkin's heads. i completely agree with you and the big game will just end if there is a direct military clash of nuclear powers. and god forbid that the great game continues. as long as possible dmitry leonid petrovich thank you very much for a very interesting conversation. and the big game will be back in this

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implement as the statement of this ceiling states that the embargo on russian oil imports to the united states will remain in force 5 december in sync with european sanctions. the united states imposes a ban on the transportation of russian crude oil, and in february next year, a ban on the transportation of petroleum products. and they are going to threaten with secondary sanctions against companies of those third countries that violate these restrictions. but recently, at the eastern economic forum, vladimir putin already stated very clearly that a would not sell in russia. uh, energy carrier or those countries that enter or join. e, to these e ceilings, like, how did it affect the countries of the european union in terms of gas, but alexander aleksandrovich and what do you think, in terms of oil, but will it work, how do you assess the prospects for the implementation of what

was announced, the united states well, the global oil market, in principle, is in such a state of shock, been there since 20. and in general, any actions of this kind, they will contribute to the fact that this situation will last even longer. and in fact, the problem for unfriendly wanderings is that russia is the largest supplier of oil on the world market and this not some small country. well, even venezuela is there with its decent volume, and that was a certain problem, and russia is even more of a problem. and it is clear that you can try to limit. eh, you can enter some other prices. uh, that means sanctions . but this is a game of two sides, and therefore , at the moment of such an aggravation or escalation , the introduction of this kind of peace in russia, of course, can respond, and this response on the world market will be reflected quite significantly, unconditionally, and even the washington post, writes, with reference to economists and colleagues and representatives

of the biden administration that if russia really implements, and what the president said at the eastern economic forum, then the american economy will suffer no less than even the economies of other developed countries. well , again, the problem is that until now in the west, for some reason, they think that it means not receiving some kind of foreign exchange earnings. in reserve currencies to russia, this is so to say. at the moment, there is some kind of critical problem right now. actually. this is not true in the sense that we we have problems using this currency later , and when we trade, there are no such problems with china for yuan, but when we trade with the european union, so to speak, for the euro or the united states, there for the dollar or with other countries for dollars we have problems and we still need to understand how we will use this income stream. in addition, it is clear that it was said quite clearly that it was below cost or at prices that would be unacceptable for our producers, but we also cannot trade, of course, this is also a problem for us, because

our oil companies must understand how they will behave in these conditions, how they will develop their business, but in principle, in the short term, this is a powerful price shock that will bring that world recession even closer an economy that is quite realistic in the next year two days alekseevich well, now the main importers of russian energy carriers are, strangely enough, the west, and strangely the east, such as china and india tour. even saudi arabia is buying russian oil. you can imagine them joining, here, to this oil barg, which they do not embargo, but on k-oil. can you imagine them joining that ceiling on the price of russian oil that the g7 countries are promoting and can you imagine that the united states european countries will impose secondary sanctions against the countries i have named, of course, undoubtedly, the european countries are striving to commit characters, cannot be ruled out that they can join for some reason, but from the point of

from the point of view of the countries of the east, countries not of the west, partnership normal relations with russia are the norm and no one will sacrifice them for the sake of some incomprehensible goals of the united states, uh, america is not going to roughly speaking from the point of view of the strange west, what is happening around ukraine is too far. and too much for the sake of which it is worth sacrificing one 's own interests. this is the first point, the second point is that what is happening around ukraine. i think that this is already clear to everyone . this is about the breakdown of the systems of international relations. breaking point breaking point breaking point but this is just one of the points and non-western countries understand that the americans will try to undermine them. uh, national interests, including, why would strange not the west make such mistakes. e, the turkish leader, in particular, noted that the european policy is wrong with regard to russia, that they have driven themselves into a dead end, that the europeans e

could not ignore the factors of russia, the factor of russia cannot be ignored. and this is precisely the position that most non-western countries have today. the factor of russia cannot be ignored . uh, as to something missing international relations is simply not possible. well, uh, there's a very, very powerful organization in the united states. the expert is called the council inforning the council on foreign relations is considered the top think tank on foreign policy of international relations , this organization is headed by ambassador richard huss, a very well-deserved influential american expert , just the other day he published a key article in fore magazine. nfs about what should be generally an american foreign policy strategy in the current environment. well, in particular. e. what policy should the united states pursue towards russia towards china? on the one hand, haas writes that the united states

should not try to change the regime with its own hands. uh, in russia and in china well, already on this what is called thank you, but on the other hand. note that he writes about what should be the us policy towards russia and what should be the role here? listen, the west should give ukraine extensive military and economic support to ensure its continued viability as a sovereign state and prevent russian control of more territory than it already has, but the west must also recognize that military force alone cannot end russian occupation, such an outcome would require political change in moscow and the arrival of a leadership ready to reduce or end russia's presence in ukraine in exchange for the lifting of sanctions, putin will never agree to such a deal, and to offer a hypothetical future regime in moscow is a worthy compromise for washington and its partners. we will have to introduce much tougher sanctions on all

russian energy exports. first of all, the ban on the export of natural gas to europe, nikolai yuryevich, but it seems to me that everything is fine here, yes, firstly. uh, chaos contradicts itself, because it speaks of some new russian political regime, and secondly, it suggests that europe simply commit economic and political hara-kiri. completely abandoning russian gas despite the fact that europe is trying to keep e these supplies. how do you consider such a formulation of the issue by the main american international affairs officer today. i see another contradiction here. here he says that we are now , uh, we will, uh, lead to an escalation of the economic war with russia, we are conducting additional sanctions europe will join them, gas supplies will be cut off oil supplies, and then someone in

russia should agree to some concessions to the united states in exchange for the lifting of these sanctions, but the thing is, they've always called for political concessions and promoted, uh, regime change, except. naturally, where they did. this is purely by force. and in exchange for some benefits of globalization, some benefits of global liberal capitalism. but now the policy that the united states and its allies have seen is destroying this system of global liberal capitalism. moreover, it is already clear that at this table even they themselves have no place for the united states. there is not enough space, even for their own allies, that they are going to us suggest. and. by the way, that they are going to offer us conditions in conditions when the nord stream is either not working, or working intermittently,

what khas offers has already happened or at least is happening. well, for the time being, russia supplies gas through ukraine, supplies gas via the turkish stream . khas proposes to simply give up everything. well, at the same time, by the way, over the past six months, the supply of american liquefied natural gas to the european union has doubled. that is, now they are trying to provide non-global public goods to the international community, and the benefits to themselves and partially. uh, they represent it in part, but contrary to, uh, what khas actually writes about. uh, a lot of western media that cnn writes that the mood in the white house is actually very disturbing and not even the total economic war against russia that richards proposes . gradually withdraw support for ukraine and in terms of the sanctions policy against

russia and in part. e military support for ukraine and they write about the fact that this is precisely this uncertainty, just the reason for the frequency with which biden communicates with european allies, austin catches one ramstein after another, and nato secretary general stoltenberg. we talked about this this morning at the previous program, and the nato secretary general with toltenberg claims that if the west allows russia to win, then russia will allegedly attack any of the nato countries. so this is an expression of uncertainty and this uncertainty. is there really serious reasons, since i do not observe today in the european union, the appetite to introduce more and more new sanctions. e v russia decision on visas. it seems to me that hungary at the last meeting of the eu council at

the ministerial level also testifies that the european union has no potential for new economic sanctions. energy, raised a question. as for the short duration of the sanctions in general, let's decide how long we will keep them. and when it will be necessary to have them, and to cancel opinion polls in europe show decreasing support. e sanctions. what do you think alexander alexandrovich here. what is the prospect of the sanctions policy of the european union well, let's start with the fact that the european polis such elites, in principle, were ready at the beginning of this whole story to pay any price to punish russia, well, it was obvious, because most of the decisions went to the detriment, uh, the long-term economic interest of the european union and the only question is how long you can hold on to this position, yes, what does the price mean values ​​are clear in the short term. this is possible if we are talking about medium long-term prospects. clearly, this is where the problem begins and it is clear that the interests of various countries of

southern europe, eastern europe and central european countries. in principle, they do not quite coincide in this particular part, and here it arises. of course, this is the reason for splitting their position on the other side. it is clear that the united states, uh, means in the current conditions really suffer minimal losses against the background of what is happening in the european union, and the europeans see it too. it sees it not only so to speak, there usually. the population yes , business sees this, first of all and here is the question of the position of european business, which is now suffering really serious losses - this is a serious question, it is clear that political pressure and ideological pressure, this noise is high, but still , here again, in an average perspective business position. it will be decisive. in general, it is interesting that we traditionally said that the policy of berlin, in contrast to paris, which is more france is more such a side of the country. but the policy of berlin is largely

determined by big business. now we see an obvious gap. well, actually, i would say that this gap did not appear today. that is, if we look at this whole story with a green agenda, for example, yes, then it was clear that here in germany there, including under the influence of, let's say, as it was said before, uh, mass propaganda. yes. uh, public opinion has changed a lot, that is, this version about the fact that you need to live richer. so to speak, better better. it was replaced by the fact that you need to live right and here they already arise, as it were, forks. yes, and we see that the government that is now there was represented, which means the self-propelled guns are democrats and green, and this is such a government that is no longer about living richer. and about living. eh, how would it be more correct, yes, or they said some kind of stable there, and in fact . this greatly shifted the position of germany and, well, for our relations, which are traditional, on which, in general, everything rested, er, that means the european union, i would say, yes there, including the exchange, er, the flow of goods and so on. here is a serious challenge. in any case, the discussion of

sanctions issues in the european union gives rise to new new splits. and not only increases these costs. leave the european union on the brink, not only economic, but political, rather than a serious political crisis, the minister for european affairs. uh, the czech republic, the czech republic is currently chairing, uh, the european union said that hungary, because of its policy on here russia and under the sanctions i quote came to the edge of the abyss. and it is on the verge of leaving the european union. yes, this was stated by the country's minister presiding over the european union today. yes, and the politics newspaper writes that hungary's position on sanctions is indeed true. e was furious. eh, other countries of the european union, but vladimir alekseevich it seems to me that it was not only the substance of the details of the technical positions that enraged hungary, but the fact that hungary

defends its national interests, what is in the european union today. here's to others countries, in principle, are not allowed and not accepted . and so i agree, moreover, hungary still has a chance to get out of this mess, but a chance to save, and hungary really puts the national interests that today in europe it is not accepted what is accepted on the territory outside the west, european colleagues have completely decided to become part of the united states of america and impulsiveness. yes , as our president put it, which these western countries have in many respects is connected with failures, is close relative to us. uh, this is uh straight a consequence, in addition, the emotional prevails over the rational when there are no successes. yes, because you are normal. i agree with all this, rational interests should have dominated, but in this case, the emotional adds to the rational. this means that there will be extremely emotional

actions, often not based on strategic thinking. we are already hearing a statement that it is necessary to influence the russian space through the ethnic factor. through separatism, these statements sound louder and louder. this means that we need to wait for these surprises , and the fact that our american colleagues are already talking about this is actually a fact, but the most important thing is that they say that this should not be done with our own hands, so all our attention should not only be, and not so much on just this ukrainian case. and how many in other parts of the former post-soviet space, because it is obvious that ukraine is only one of the points, uh, that the united states has used to undermine russian interests, it is obvious that they will try to influence to the internal field of russia through the southern neighbors through our post-soviet space through central asia through the south caucasus and through the issues of the problem that exist in moldova and, e.g., the

levers that our western colleagues can use such an opportunity to use these levers, the more we have a huge joint history with the people after the soviet space. uh, and also a lot of attention should undoubtedly be on the country of the west because even there, uh, the influence of the united states of america is quite far away. now in the turkish republic exists as a force. those who are in favor of cooperation with russia and the forces that perceive us as. uh, that kind of food, yes, and that also needs to be taken into account. they cooperate precisely with the americans, including in the case of undermining us through this into religious specificity. the new world, about which sergei viktorovich lavrov spoke , will definitely be multipolar. eh, but that doesn't mean it will be easier than the previous world, in which we lived. well uh sure it won't be easier, but it won't be aimed against russia in

russia there will be an opportunity in this world. how to promote their own interests through cooperation, and through competition with non-cetaceans with certain countries. this is fine. the natural state of international relations. well , here's another weak point, europe, which is often indicated by the united states, is the supply of weapons to ukraine, yes, europe constantly says that its stocks are exhausted, that it is forced to supply ukraine with virtually conveyor, new weapons. and absolutely not in the volume and not the weapons that ukraine claims, so we have already discussed with dmitry saim that according to juda, he intends to read in the pentagon. or at least they are discussing the possibility of providing ukraine with western battle tanks. at the same time, german defense minister christine lambrecht said openly today that germany would not expose leopard tanks to ukraine for more than a month . yes, ukraine is constantly asking, germany, uh, rejects a public opinion poll. in

germany, too, against the buildup of military assistance. e. less than half of about 40% are in favor of military assistance to ukraine, yes, 60%, and nikolai yuryevich is against how do you see the prospects for european arms supplies to ukraine and whether this will lead to a new crisis in transatlantic relations, after all, the united states will put pressure, especially if the republicans win the midterm elections. mascara will definitely talk, and bordon sherring, so to speak, a more equitable distribution of the burden that the europeans, in fact, they themselves should take care of their own safety there, and so on. europeans cannot. as you know, let uh, in this matter, transatlantic unity be the biggest challenge for us. i'm afraid that the problem is that the americans will be able to supply ukraine even if the europeans refuse and it's not so much about physical weapons

from europe, but about the desire of the united states to cover up their european allies with our blood? if a crisis of trans-atlantic unity arises on this basis, then let it arise, but here the main questions are in what volume of delivery? how long will they have time to put what kind of weapon? will we have time to train the troops, and even with our only one? well, of course, what i reduce, the better for us. we will now take a break for a few moments and then we will continue in this studio. we defend the ideals of civilization, freedom and democracy, while the world is being divided. we will not be without work .