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as early as this week, the states may announce a new package of military assistance to ukraine for about $600 million. although the previous $675 million package was only announced last friday, in addition to this, washington is directly involved in planning the military operations of the kiev regime. as the new york times wrote today, citing sources in the biden administration, high-ranking representatives of the american state apparatus, including the assistant to the president of the united states for national security with jake sallin and chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, united states armed forces mark. miles spent several months developing a counter-offensive strategy for the kiev regime, along with ukrainian officials. listen to a quote from the times. according to senior administration official jake sullivan and andriy yermak, they have repeatedly spoken about planning a counteroffensive. general mark mealy and senior ukrainian military leaders
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regularly discussed intelligence and military issues. support. we did simulations and some theoretical training. as a result of these exercises, it turned out that some methods of conducting a counteroffensive were more likely to be successful than others. we gave this advice, and then the ukrainians thought it over and made their decisions, said us deputy secretary of defense for political affairs colin cole support for the united states and its allies. and what is this offensive? how did you say? yesterday, the secretary of state is just beginning, but he, of course, do not know if they took part in its development ivan alekseevich that's why in your opinion? the united states does not fear that this degree of involvement could escalate. why do they think there are no escalation risks? and you know, they are still afraid of
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escalation, but, at the same time, it seems to them that they have found such a field of action where they can do pretty much whatever they want about them, and not get, uh, direct direct retaliation . here is a pattern of behavior that is not felt when they are directly involved . we have a lot of data about this military specialists constantly talk about this, this is both intelligence and indication purposes. eh, the cyber ​​command admitted that it was also conducting defensive offensive operations in connection with ukraine against russia, that is, direct involvement, but still not direct. and although throughout visibility elements of some direct in the form of western military personnel, and not just mercenaries. they are already here, too, appearing here. it seems that they have found such a field, and they will become impudent, but
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still in the united states, it seems to me that it is already somewhere in may. we still see it. you know, some boast in american discussions, and, uh, in the press, that here we are directly involved. see how much we do, while others pull back. they say no, no, no show off. eh, don't. don't stick out too much stick out your e, your ears and the americans. here you go, as it seems to them, they groped, this is a field without punishment, where they will not have anything, and in this situation they become quite dangerous, but i would still emphasize that this is not from strength. they were actually expecting. uh, enough hard times on the ukrainian e front. and now it seems to them that they were lucky and they are trying to grab this luck, as
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they say. uh, by the tail, but they can play very hard. well, note in the united states that many pundits and observers are actually accusing the biden administration of insufficiency of action in insufficiency. the military support of ukraine insists on the need for long-range missiles, the supply of both tanks and fighter jets, and the imposition of much tougher sanctions against russia. but those american experts who have traditionally been speaking for many years. in fact, for constructive cooperation with russia, they just write exactly what you said now that the biden administration is behaving responsibly, because it has groped for just such a form, when it seems to help ukraine and not intentionally run into a third world war. here. listen to what they wrote about this in the forena fs magazine, two really constructive, uh, russian-minded americans. the one that works for
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the rental corporation is samil, charp. i think a very famous face. uh, a participant in our conversation and michael mazar, listen last month, the administration of us president joe biden has come under fire for its calculated caution regarding america's involvement in the conflict in ukraine. however, in the standoffs from the cold war to czechoslovakia and vietnam, us presidents have consistently held back their short-term ambitions to avoid the calamities of a large-scale war, especially if they were confident that the united states was winning in the long run. history shows that the biden administration 's approach to helping ukraine is based on ukraine's difficult and important balance of risk and opportunity. washington is gradually increasing the scope and scope of its assistance to ukraine in the security gradually, strengthening the military position of kiev and not provoking a larger war. although this approach has disappointed ukrainian leaders and many observers. it reflects the best traditions
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of cold war crisis diplomacy - defending us interests by avoiding direct confrontation with a rival and always. what is there for the long term alekseevich well, continuing our conversation with you, this is the position of american pigeons, but in russia the situation is perceived, otherwise in russia they think that the united states is thus breaking the red lines. this does not create the risk of news escalation. and you know, they don't violate, they have already violated all the red lines. moreover, they took such a position that they began to discuss the legitimacy of these red lines. instead of just uh acknowledging them. i may not agree with this, but this is the reality. i would not call them all the same pigeons, they are prudent, but in the current situation. still, they are cynics. yes , there is indeed a danger that they can outweigh. uh, those very radicals who
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are in favor of escalation now in america are the military-industrial lobby, which is very closely connected with the british political one. and the british, respectively, will organize poland and the baltic states for all these cries in support of the escalation, they say, before these cries were like that. oh, they are losing, they need urgent help to save them. now oh, they're doing something. moreover , everyone needs to pile on, but in this position, here are the rationalists of the cynics that you brought in very important point. they say everything is rational. yes, there is logic in this, but just what is rational for ukraine is rational for ukraine. sorry for the rude expression squirming, and suffer, because after all, only a few were promised. well, i'm not talking about more there long term 10 years 15. i even promised them a few years ago and we promised happiness and well-being. and now it
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only remains for them to be heroes in quotation marks and die to become geopolitical, therefore. but from the point of view of the united states, these people, with which we have met many times before at various conference events. yes, they write everything. prudently. everything is correct. and where in this calculation is ukraine ukraine in this calculation is the consumable consumption of materials, an instrument of anti-russian policy, of course. well, what i personally agree with charop and mazar is that ukraine demands much more and expresses dissatisfaction when the united states does not provide this more to it so far, uh, wall street journal uh, today wrote that the kiev regime requested from the united states another package, but weapons, and with the expectation of 2023, and it includes a lot of things, including, of course, long-range missiles. and here i
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just can’t help but recall a recent article by e, the commander-in-chief of ukraine, who was pledged, who wrote right before rammstein, which took place on v deed. and where where did he write that in violation? well , he didn’t write about the violation, but he, in violation of the us-ukrainian agreement that ukraine, as it were, undertakes not to use, uh, american weapons to strike at the russian i wrote the territory laid down as soon as we get long-range missiles right away without any equivocation. we will beat. uh, deep into, uh, russian territory. and alexey petrovich what do you think? eh, here. uh, will u give ukraine what it demands, uh, will the fear of escalation in the west decrease and how do you assess this degree of involvement of the united states in the planning of ukrainian military operations, which the new york times wrote about definitely planning military
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operations, which two offensive operation, which they spent with the participation of the united states of america, they went through with different results, as they say, we know the result of the kherson offensive turned into heavy losses for ukraine and did not achieve its own, as they say, the main goals of the offensive in the north-east of the kharkov region brought great results more than even the americans expected, but there are nuances here, nuances connected with the fact that such a task, of course, was set before the all. and this task was set so that the meeting in ramstein could put pressure on the european partners, who roamed and refused to supply military equipment provides its training grounds for training future fighters of the ukrainian army, with concrete results, but the results were achieved as follows, if mainly ukrainian troops acted in the kherson direction, then mercenaries operated in the north-east of the kharkov region and not just mercenaries and members of terrorist organizations, which are most prohibited by our legislation in the ranks of these
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mercenaries who did not come to liberate in the north-east of the kharkiv region , militants from such banned organizations as igil al -qaeda, uh, other bokaharams, were involved in the punitive operation, that is, they were present there. eh, mercenaries of all stripes, while there were some, there were also ukrainian mercenaries well, as it were, military personnel, but they directly supervised all actions. uh, officers who speak english, that is, there was fully combat interaction, the complexity of the number of these military personnel, uh, who allegedly spoke. false flag about in some areas of hostilities it exceeded eight times for those who were defending, besides, taking into account the fact that we had reservist units there, the result was, as it were, predictable on the one hand. it is clear that because of this result, conclusions must be drawn, but conclusions were also drawn on the other side, because such a victory
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was needed primarily in the united states of america. in addition, the baidan administration had a question: where did you spend 40 billion dollars and how do you get the following if there are none results? therefore, here the coincidence of interests that we observe has led to such results. will it be, but ukraine decided to play on this again. they said, give us more weapons. give us offensive weapons, we will advance further, but in such a way that such a strategic reserve was introduced, and it was not ukrainian. this suggests that there are not so many professionals left in the ukrainian army, but we still need to tighten up the time in order to train at least someone at those training grounds that nato countries have about there will be a scheme such that each country should even prepare 10,000 bayonets for this at its training grounds, both for great britain and poland. and for this it was necessary to expand the polygons. and now they appeared from spain. i think that italy will appear and respond, france and other countries will start training fighters there, because they were
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provided with the results, that such training is effective, therefore. let's harness, spend your money and the part of the weapons that you wanted to replenish your arsenal you must provide. the ukrainian army, that is, it is at the moment. uh, this is possible, as they say , to fix the result, while those mercenaries who participated in the hostilities in the north-east of kharkov have now moved to the south, that is, the zaporozhye direction needs to be donetsk, what intelligence captures and what our military correspondents report, that is now they are not there. they've been out of the war zone for like 2 days. they got results and left. but at the same time, i will repeat once again, there was a punitive operation, not a liberation operation. and you need to understand this, of course manner. this affects, uh, the very status of our special operation, which needs to be changed. change it to a terrorist or other operation, in which we need to remove all these restrictions that did not allow us to more effectively destroy the infrastructure of the enemy
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who is waging a terrorist war against us, including in the information space. i think it will be done soon we will see the result. today, one more confirmation of ukraine's inability to negotiate has come, and its it’s just the unwillingness to substantively discuss any options for a peaceful settlement of the diplomatic settlement of this conflict today, the kiev regime, together with the former nato secretary general anderson focus rasmuson, presented a document on which they worked for several months, this, and a document on security guarantees for ukraine, and this is what i pay attention in this document? yes, but uh, first of all, uh, guarantee and security are invited to sign agreements on security guarantees are invited to show with whom whatever. only not with russia, even australia appears there canada the united states all european nato countries russia no secondly, there is no specifics about what
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security guarantors should do in the event of a threat, but it is very detailed there. what needs to be done, according to ukraine now. so during this conflict and after this conflict, namely, to maintain sanctions and build up a full-fledged sanctions package. moreover, the sanctions cannot be lifted until then. until russia reimburses ukraine damage. secondly, the provision of weapons to ukraine, including modern air defense systems pro; thirdly , military exercises on the territory of ukraine with the involvement of foreign instructors and advisers. yes, that is, here's what needs to be done. here is the medium-term perspective, and these guarantees in no way imply a neutral status of ukraine, in no case imply any obligations to reduce its minimization, but the armed forces. and, of course, they should apply to the entire territory of ukraine, including like she and her western patrons. uh,
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they understand, including crimea, here, uh, chairman of the uh, committee on international affairs. uh, the state duma leonid slutsky has already said that this is not a guarantee? security is a guarantee of drawing nato into a war and a prerequisite. uh, more escalation. eh, you agree with this point of view. and what do you think, the west, i emphasize once again such a proposal, developed, including by anders fokoobrazenson, not only by yermak yes, but by razmos, so to speak. tomorrow the proposal was prepared in advance in case of any successful military operations that they demonstrated. well, halfway through, let's say, and, of course, they are forcing the countries of europe to get involved in the conflict not in the way they provided assistance there, then they told us to devastate warehouses, but in full, that is, full-scale, because when they say the doctrine to the territory of ukraine, that is, it is assumed that we will be stationed somewhere. it is necessary to force them to sign some kind of agreement to sit down at the negotiating table that they dream of
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to record the results and further before our eyes to further militarize ukraine in order to continue the fight against russia, which they put right away, not just but practically destroy ours there, by the way, they say such freaks phrases and during ramstein actually sounded it should be taken as an ultimatum which was presented to the russian federation in case we did n’t change anything radically, but the fact is that we kind of tried to play by some rules all the time, they are connected with international legislation and conventions of geneva and vienna and others related to the conduct of hostilities. refugee convention. we observed all this, while the enemy played against us without any rules, therefore, now it is expedient for russia to switch to another tactic, let's say, and we, by the way, demonstrated this when we delivered six strikes on the sensitive infrastructure of the energy infrastructure of ukraine. by the way, this
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was perceived with indignation, united states of america a. then this document was published. it is interesting that although similar documents here is this document. no negotiations and agreements with russia are envisaged and there will not be any. yes, and there will not be, but it is very interesting in this particular context that the statement was made today by the head of european diplomacy, jose barrel, who just recently spoke and spoke several times that a military conflict should end with the military victory of ukraine and the defeat of russia, and so today is the same spanish grandfather. uh, barrel said that the european union would like peace talks with russia on ukraine as possible rather, and in general, barrel stressed that it is necessary to conduct negotiations with russia on a number of issues, including, e, the safety of the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant artyom pavlovich here. uh, in your opinion, do n't you think that in the conditions of the difficult
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economic situation and the increasingly difficult economic situation in which europe found itself, which is really an expendable tool for the americans? politicians barrel and uh, some other europeans maybe france maybe germany are now trying to take advantage of this contour offensive armed forces of ukraine and in the kharkiv region and say, well, success has been achieved. and now let's negotiate and will, uh, try to persuade ukraine to start negotiations with russia on this basis of their so-called success . so that the negotiation process begins and this is the sanctions nightmare that hit europe because no one expected it to stop, but the problem is how we already discussed in the context of the american position, europe here is also actually a hostage of transplant unity and its real influence,
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both on kiev and on the whole situation, is limited. but if we let us consider germany, then now scholz is testing his government. pressure on the supply of leopard 2 tanks, uh, just a few days ago, the head of the german foreign ministry, naliana berbek, came to kiev and it seemed like a meeting of two allies in fact, but the meeting turned out to be blurry, because she did not promise leopard tanks. although after this the german defense minister is already in plain text. she said that no leopards will be delivered to kiev e. then in turn. dmitry kuleba, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine , published an angry post, such as why, kiev is not afraid of moscow, but berlin is afraid, yes, that is, it actually calls. e to direct entry into the war. apparently yes, this is, indeed, a long-standing tradition of ukrainian such criticism since the time of ambassador melnyk in relation to berlin, and uh, it is also important that now these proposals
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according to the guarantees that they presented, if we look from a european perspective, they are also with phones at the same time. calls from macron and scholz, literally today, yes, negotiations took place and, as we already discussed, what is the perception of russia's situation in the framework of the ukrainian conflict. well, now largely rolled back to the situation. here is the end of february march, that something like this is about to happen, everything will fall apart. and here we need to quickly start some kind of negotiation process. naturally, on the terms of ukraine and the west here we see a fundamental, probably mistake, but of european analytical thought, which deals with it for the most part. now finking has come out and more than that. well, there is certainly some kind of thought process going on in europe about the advisability of transferring conflicts to politics in the diplomatic channel, but the united states will naturally not allow this, and russia in the
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twenty percent and september. the big game is on the air at the same time as the hybrid war against russia the united states is intensifying the confrontation with china, which they certainly consider as the main strategic, and the enemy, uh, recently. uh, richard huss, president of the council on foreign relations - this is the main most authoritative influential american cis published in the foreign face. e article about what in general, there should be an american foreign policy strategy in the current international conditions, and there, of course, there is a section on china and that. hear what american internationals say. well, the number one status offers on us policy towards china. learning from
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europe's clumsy dance with russia, the united states should reduce its interdependence with china, which is in many ways a hell of a dependence on china. relations with china will lose their former importance for the us economy and its partners. this will make it easier to confront china or even impose sanctions against it, if necessary, washington and its partners will also have to react decisively if china is the subject of hostile actions against taiwan, in order to prevent such a scenario or, if necessary, defend against a chinese attack, washington needs to take strategic and clear position on taiwan leaving no doubt that they will intervene militarily to protect islands. if necessary, washington must confirm its intentions by ensuring taiwan's security and economic well-being vladimirovich what do you think in beijing
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? they understand that the confrontation with the united states is irreversible and will only intensify. in the foreseeable future , the chinese definitely take into account and draw conclusions. more and more sober look at what is happening in the world, and what is happening in the world that's what america goes to the counterattack. yes, here in ukraine small counter on the table. and america has a big counter us here, because under trump, america actually retreated. trump wanted to isolate america. yes , america, uh, this is the main thing, it destroyed military economic unions. but uh, biden coming to power. he has been doing this contrast for 2 years now. he created two fronts of the cold war, the western front.
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the russian eastern front is chinese so that russia and china do not go forward in the direction of creating an alternative world order in which there will be no american hegemony, in which he will not have a dollar. and so we got involved, and we got involved in the ukrainian crisis. uh, the chinese are being pushed more and more, uh, obviously into the taiwan crisis. uh, but uh, muskvaekin respond asymmetrically. we'll talk now. that's just a few minutes of russian chinese cooperation. now i want to ask alexei petrovich but if this american counter-counter us here is a big contour, nasb, still leads to a military clash around
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taiwan the united states will not suffer a major military defeat, you need to understand that the united states in front of him at the beginning will launch his allies, who will have to first of all prove military assistance in taiwan because if we compare the position of power. and if the americans, for example, will get involved directly without allies, then it is understandable that a thermonuclear conflict will be made, because in the asia-pacific region here. this is china's indo-tech-ocean command today, something in america is inferior in its capabilities. perhaps with china, they have been trying to solve the problem since 2008, how would they attack from the sea? so china so that it does not resisted, but china, of course, understands this is worth a powerful fleet. it has a shot around its entire coastline of a no access zone and a manner that is represented by several. and as they say, strongholds that support not only the fleet, but also strategic nuclear forces, so
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a direct clash between the united states and china is crazy for the united states of america, but the americans believe that countries that have some kind of historical confrontation. with china it's japan it's possible vietnam and a big bet is placed on india , therefore, when they talk about some kind of confrontation. first of all, they mean that it is precisely these countries that will go to the forefront. well, maybe there is still australia, but for now australia is behaving. it does not run hostile towards china. forward, ahead of your boss of the united states of america, you expect that he will fire a fairly effective system of attack on china. well, yuri vadimovich already correctly answered that in the conditions of this states china strengthens relations with russia this week, the second personal meeting of vladimir putin and the president of the people's republic of china will take place this year. in addition, today a rotation was announced according to andrei
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ivanovich denisov, who has been the russian ambassador to the people's republic of china since 2013, and is serving in his place igor vladimirovich margulov, deputy minister of foreign affairs of russia, who has recently been in charge of the asia-pacific direction, becomes the ambassador of russia to china in words, this seems to me to be very signal a, which emphasizes the importance of the chinese direction in russian foreign policy. and so, uh, naturally denisov uh. on the eve of his departure from beijing , he held farewell meetings with his chinese counterparts and recently met with a member of the political bureaucrats, like apc yand zechi, who is considered the main chinese diplomat in the power hierarchies, this post, if i'm not mistaken , is higher than the minister of foreign affairs, and here is what yanchi said following the meeting with denis. china ready
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work with russia to continuously implement high-level strategic cooperation between the two countries to protect common interests and promote the development of international orders in a more just and reasonable direction under the leadership of president xi jinping and president vladimir putin, relations between the two countries. we have always been on the right track and both sides firmly support each other in matters relating to their main interests yuri vladimirovich it seems to me that such a basis is good on the threshold of meeting of the two presidents, of course. you know since stalin's times. the ambassador of the soviet union in beijing and the message of the people's republic of china in moscow should have been no less. deputy minister of foreign affairs, and denisov, as you know, was even for some time the first deputy minister of
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foreign affairs and, accordingly, the chinese ambassador. here he is also deputy minister of foreign affairs. this is very important. uh, farewell visits to but. e. now we have a very interesting period ahead of us at a much higher level, what will happen samarkand there are reasons to believe that there will be very serious breakthroughs and surprises. and so, uh, what actually happens there after the annexation of iran. well, in belarus, the sco becomes an indo-pacific organization, what u biden plans to create and uh, the economic structure that they created the military command and this ocean is all to a large extent. e scheme, and here a real pacific structure is being created
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with all the parameters of political ties. economic already now before the expansion of the sco, this is uh already, 24 percent of world gdp, as far as i remember, this military component includes four more nuclear countries than nato, and after the accession of iran, which is considered a threshold nuclear power, it will be 4 1/2 yes 4 1/2, and the anti-terrorist structure of the sco will be transformed , which, uh, is based in tashkent, it becomes such an operational center. and if we take into account that the chinese have recently shown interest in cooperation with the csto, then this looks very interesting, and the picture and here, what seems to me especially important and promising is that
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that everyone is waiting for some kind of breakthrough. in terms of abandoning the dollar, switching to the currencies of the sco countries and in the prospect of creating, perhaps, some kind of single settlement mechanism, maybe these will not be banknotes, but with these putin's and these will be some, uh, financial instruments, and here this, of course. eh, the most important answer. uh, america in general look, uh, the west, led by america, it brings chaos to the world, disunity war. and moscow-epeken, repelling attacks and protecting their own safety, find time for strength, wisdom , farsightedness in order to do
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constructing a new world order, what we have in china, we have in china yes, we and china call yang and yang is a solar light positive force and it is weakening to them. dark regressive force here is what is happening in the world this process, of course, it will not last a single year, but our cause is right, of course. well, you said that the sco is becoming a full-fledged identity pacific e structure. i would also add to this that the sco is becoming the main institutional pillar of greater eurasia because , especially after the expansion of the shanghai cooperative organization will indeed include all the key eurasian states and in this space of greater eurasia you are absolutely right security there is no zero sum game economic development is order and
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not the chaos that the united states is uh trying to pay so this summit will really have very key value. moreover, russia's relations with china and with asia in general are very important for the russian economy. and as many people think. i join this opinion. this is one of the factors and guarantees of the stability of the russian economy in the conditions of that hybrid war, including the economic war that the west is waging against us. and by the way, western sanctions are in many ways. they worked or didn't work as expected because of russia's relations with the countries of the east and the south. and so, uh, just in the run-up to the sco themselves, the director of, uh, the institute for financial studies of the renmin university of china. wang wen wrote an article in the global times newspaper where i wrote that western sanctions, stimulating even more russian pivot to the east makes russia's economy even more stable and healthy here, listen when it comes to eastern integration
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, a world is opening up where the us does not belong in the east , the world's largest belt of industrial production is being formed, an international scheme of cross-border division of labor has been built between china , japan, south korea, osyaan, and the total exports of the region have already exceeded those of the eu and north america combined, the next two decades will see the largest transfer of wealth in history on both sides of the atlantic to the east. russia is just the most typical country that is rapidly leaning towards the east, from this point of view, western sanctions will not kill russia, but will create a new russia that will give up its illusions about the west and gradually sink deeper into the east, gaining a new self and enjoying dividends from rise of the east babies sergeevich you agree. what role will the east play in the russian economy? yes? of course , the fact is that, in general, this one here, uh, global macroregion, which is now forming macroeconomic regions. which is now
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being formed, it will be the center of attraction for both investments and technologies and personnel. it's not just that we , uh, our dear president, uh, drew attention to the extension of the far eastern mortgage. that is, again, this is one of the tools for promoting the economic interests of russia. here, in this part , it is, uh, enhanced interaction with the countries of the east and southeast asia, of course. with china , first of all, at the same time, this relationship, and with smaller, so to speak, partners with myanmar, with that but, yes, that is, in fact, we are talking about the fact that such a macro-region is being formed, in which it will actually be. this is a new point of economic growth on a global scale and it is quite obvious that the periodization of russia is in precisely this direction. and this is, to some extent, probably a necessary measure, but on the other hand, we have long-term friendly relations with china, so it is quite obvious that if they don’t want to talk to us, if the timer speaks the language of sanctions, if something dictates to us that - they explain.
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so to speak, e install some ceilings and so on. why do we need it? it is quite possible that it would be much more profitable for us to reorient our economic interests precisely to the east and concentrate our efforts on the development of this point of world economic growth. but at the same time, i want to say that a few more interesting ones took place this week. eh, maybe not very clear events, but they also really emphasize this common point of world growth. in the east. this is in particular. e a message just yesterday in your post about a meeting at the us treasury department in which he participated, including such a well-known economist as genbaker, they discussed. what is the impact of e sanctions on european countries and what impact does this have on the american state. you know, an amazing thing, they quite calmly declared that economic sanctions against russia, of course, did not work as well
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as we wanted. of course, they gave us all over europe , but it turned out to be beneficial for us. we talk about this a few once said, the americans. they simply admitted that the whole policy of sanctions that was. eh, so to speak implemented. here e on the scale that was implemented e led to the fact that in the end lost its competitiveness of germany in the first place in the european continent is the competitiveness, germany stops factories. we already know about glassworks, steel foundries, fertilizer production. and now, literally today, the question of the aluminum industry has already arisen, and the issues with silicon are rising, then there are the most energy-intensive industries that stop. and all this is happening in the heart of germany, and again against the same background. it is very interesting, but latvia and the czech republic began to buy gas according to our conditions. bulgaria i apologize for twitching a little. well, maybe, after all, you will start negotiations with us on gas, well, for now, the answer is from our side. no, that is, it is already formed in fact in such a know, but the element is otre and what
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did we do anyway? what have we come to if factories are closing? uh, not only european the central bank, but raised the refinancing rate by 0.75% point, thereby increasing the cost of lending, that is, the difficult situation in the real sector, the loan becomes even more expensive e in order to combat inflation. it is strange that they are at war in this way with inflation. well, this is their business, and economic growth is simply torn, that is, it is quite obvious that it is happening now, not that they don’t want to have economic relations with us, so to speak, but on top of everything else, and a situation arises in which a this we probably don't very interesting, because where is the point of growth. uh, you can supply energy resources to where there is growth potential, where they will be in demand and the demand for these resources will increase, we see, when not only they don’t want to buy them from us, but the needs, apparently, will not be so much , if energy-intensive production stops, therefore. to the east, yes,
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of course. but by the way, i completely agree with you that gradually an understanding is coming in europe, e.g. , what a strategic price, not only tactical strategic in terms of their long-term and competitiveness, they pay by being this bargaining chip in american politics, until this point of view is expressed by the pan-european mainstream. there are people like ursula fondyrlyan, the head of the european commission, or even the german chancellor, welf scholz. well, on the other hand, for example, uh, the chairman of the state assembly of hungary, laszlo kever, recently stated that it is the european union that is the loser in the russian ukrainian conflict, because the european union acts in e, contrary to its own economic interests. and as he said, kever serves not european interest groups, that is, precisely american, er, interests. allow me briefly in italy, exactly the same was the statement that it was europe that lost the sanctions war.
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excuse me, yes, yes, i completely agree, by the way, parliamentary elections will be held in italy in the near future. let's see, and according to all opinion polls, they should win there. e extreme right brothers of italy right league e, matteo salvinia and centre-right portion, italy silvia berlusconi who just does not support the continuation of this role of europe as expendable . we will now break for a short advertisement and then we will talk in more detail, just about the relations between russia and europe. but my friends call me a finder. they are building a society that one can dream of. this man is an enemy of the soviet union , you need to infiltrate his environment.
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exists. and he also made a very important, of course, statement on the eve of his departure. and here is what he said in particular about the prospects for relations between russia and the european union. listen. our relations will never return to the state that they had before the current crisis in their development. it may be more pragmatic relations, focused on a specific result rather than on loud slogans and mutual wishes ivan vasilyevich do you agree? as you can see, in general, the future attitude of russia to the european union, including in the longer term after the end of the military conflict in ukraine. it is difficult to answer this question, because in order to say what kind of future the two subjects will have, one must understand what these subjects will be like. to imagine, if we understand about russia, but much is what the european union will be like as a subject and
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whether it will be a subject, it is clear that the european union is, the way it was created in the second half xx century and developed it disappeared, it simply does not exist. the european union is being reborn into something, but whether this superstructure is needed in the form of a completely different essence of its european people, we will see. uh, in the course of the election campaigns , it is part of the fact that those debates that will take place there, maybe the european peoples. they will say no to such a european union, we do not need the european union, which has promised that it will create a model. the dangers of eternal peace in this europe covered with blood, where for centuries there have been different peoples faced such a european union was needed by the european people, but i am deeply in love with the other european union. this malicious geopolitical e, and at the same time
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such a european union, which is on america's errand, may not be needed by the european people, we 'll see, but i'm sure that russia will definitely have relations with the european peoples, but it doesn't matter with these political structures european political structure or individual national governments there. i think the relationship will be, i would say not so much more pragmatic as much as more technical, because there is always some kind of relationship. yes , there you need to send notes to communicate about something, and therefore there will certainly be technical relations, and then a lot will depend on what word is in the next few. the european peoples will say, if they say a word in favor of, uh, resuming, uh, broad cooperation with russia , then i think russia will not be against it. and what if they suddenly support their own transatlantic politicians and remain on the american leash. well
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it means that there will be purely technical relations between a small group of professionals. well, for now, the european union is really moving further and further away from acquiring some kind of strategic autonomy, losing its international subjectivity. and it loses it not only in geopolitical terms. well, in economic terms, waging an economic war against russia in the interests of the united states, the european union, and primarily in germany, in many ways, germany pays a big price undermine its own economic competitiveness. here is the deputy minister of finance in germany, florion, whose words are quoted by bloomberg and warn that germany is facing a risk. so the fluctuations are no longer only recessions, but also staffings, that is, at the same time high inflation and an economic recession, spiegel, too, the german publication warns that due to the energy crisis, the german economy is expected, as this publication writes, a tragedy in five acts and a recession, and a.
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artyom pavlovich here. do you agree with similar ratings? how do you see the economic and consequently political prospects for germany what will the german people do? whether he will tolerate this situation, the economic prospects of germany at the moment looks rather vague. moreover, i want to note that we talk very often about large german corporations that are experiencing problems in connection with the e, energy crisis, and other corporations, but german economy. it's not only these large corporations, but a significant role in them is played by medium-sized small businesses, and if it is easy for large corporations, well, by telephone law, to knock out some finances for themselves. tax deduction preferences are simple, and one-time cash payments, especially with the chancellor scholz, who has very good relations with german industrialists, then, for example, the owner of some unfortunate bakery, it is much more difficult for him to get this money. yes, the german government is currently working on an aid package. but,
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most likely, it will be small helicopter money, modeled on pandemic payments, which are still and then, most likely, in some future you will have to give. that is, these unfortunate bakeries, for example, are already working without electricity in germany. but you need to understand that this is a huge plast of the german economy, a huge number of people who are involved there and that's it. this is highly likely. in the same way, e will be expressed on the social plane and will increase discontent in german society, because not only are your cases closed for yours, or it is almost on the verge of bankruptcy. so you have utility bills. you can't grow up normally. wash and so on, that is, the whole way of life is german. it turns out destroyed, and also the leader of the green party, and now the german foreign minister , anna lena berkova, says that her promises to ukraine are much more important to her than the mood of the german voter. yes, of course, uh, the germans are less, so to speak, inclined to revolutionary actions compared to the french,
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where there are yellow vests and so on or italians, but even the german press writes that yellow vests are not excluded in germany do you agree with these perspectives. well, uh, i agree, again, with the fact that the revolution in germany is impossible, because it is forbidden, as they said earlier, but in the electoral space and in the space. here is some such public mood, of course , already these moods are the number of protests is growing, we see a trend in the face. well, here, europe, both at the level of member countries and at the level of european institutions, is desperately looking for a way out of the energy crisis. at the same time, it does not want to normalize energy relations. the european commission insists that brussels is ready. well, maybe the charlatan building in brussels is really ready, and in order to completely stop economic interaction with russia paolo gentillone, and the european commissioner. on economic issues, he said that as soon as the gas
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storage facilities are ready, europe can fully impose an embargo on the import of russian gas within the framework of the eighth package of sanctions, and the european commission, or rather the council of the european union, failed to agree on a price ceiling for e, russian gas, and in this the european commission proposes a different option. yes , tomorrow, uh, it is expected that ursula fondlyayem will present it and, as the british guardian writes, it will suggest increased taxation of european energy companies with additional tax on them. do you think this will help somehow cope with the energy crisis. you absolutely correctly described the situation with only a few, uh, minor clarifications on super-income on super-income, that is, in other words. they don't want to quit anyway. eh, so to speak major energy suppliers. uh, the very fact that there was another sobering up connected with the ceiling, that is

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