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at the weekend on the first new season of the downhole thriller, let's watch together. the big game is on the air one of the main instruments of the hybrid war between the united states and the satellites against russia is to drag out the military conflict in ukraine as much as possible. including the provision of more and more high-quality weapons to the kiev regime and the upcoming referendums. e in lugansk donetsk zaporozhye kherson, of course. uh create new ones

incentives to scale up this policy are likely the united states. they are somehow intensifying to an even greater extent, and the supply of weapons to ukraine, well, the european union is talking about the creation of a permanent military mission of the european union to train ukrainian military personnel. but apparently, european countries already have nothing to supply to ukraine. of those reserves that european countries have. here is how ruslan nikolayevich assesses the prospects for the supply of weapons from the west of ukraine to be truly european. so to speak, the weapons bins and largely cleaned, yes and a number of countries, as the same cyprus says, well, we can’t let us defend ourselves, there will be nothing. yes, but don't be under any illusions. uh, everything that is needed to foment conflicts is able to supply the americans. yes, the americans have huge stockpiles, both in their own armed forces, as in storage, and plus they have already laid a huge amount of weapons in

their own vk pumped money in order to later transfer these weapons to ukraine, sometimes it comes to anecdotal cases when the egyptians, who receive, uh, about a billion dollars in military aid money for the purchase of weapons, both in america and american money, and hmm, they twisted their arms so that they temporarily refused to supply air defense systems to air defense systems. and what was supposed to go they will be delivered to ukraine within the next 2-3 months, so we must understand that the americans, both with their own arsenals and with foreign arsenals, can still reach ukraine for a long time, plus one more aspect about which we often forget this personnel training, if the same luhansk and donetsk militias actually go into battle from the wheels, now several thousand ukrainian soldiers are training in the uk, we know a huge number are training on the territory of ukraine itself and now spain has signed up, say, to teach the same tankers on a leopard tank, therefore we should not

be surprised that sometime at some point german tanks will appear, but finally it’s just not there yet, but on the scholz, it turns out, increasing pressure from both outside and inside can come from the best scenario. yes, we cannot proceed from an average scenario. we must always in our planning not proceed from the worst-case scenario. and this is absolutely true. this is a war classic. but it seems to me that in those new conditions that will arise after the referendums, not only they will have new tanks, new weapons, but also from our side. and that military participation will be significantly intensified, then that military presence, which will be if we win appetite, and there will be less fighting. if we keep stomping on place, as it is now, then this will be interpreted as a sign of weakness and will appear completely marking time. we continue the offensive operation in the

donetsk people's republic in the region of artyomovskaya avdeevka and so on, but in general, of course, i agree that a-a military success is the best way to reduce the motivation of the opposite side. well, anyway. we have already said that the resources of the europeans are exhausted in the military sphere in terms of arms supplies. they are exhausted and in the field of economics in europe the economic and energy crisis. just today, german chancellor wolow-scholz said that next year could be even more difficult in terms of energy prices. food, most likely he is right, while eurost, and recently reported that in august this year, inflation in the european union has become a record 10% over the past decade. the average for the eu in some countries is more than 25 percent, and interestingly, this inflation coincides with a recession in the same bundes bank. uh, says germany is going into recession,

at the same time, again, next year, it will be deeper than this year, the main reason is energy hunger, and against this background, the germans still categorically refuse to launch nord stream 2. they didn’t give it, as yesterday the prime minister of lower saxony, stefan weil, made a loud statement that nord stream 2 would never be launched, simply never, due to the fact that, according to him, confidence in russia as a supplier was lost, therefore, never , alexander mikhailovich it seems to me, never never say. well, firstly, and secondly , when i said that you should not pay attention to the opinion of the west, i did not mean that we should not underestimate. the west, of course, the west with its history and its potential plus america is a serious adversary. but what you mentioned as an example suggests that, but they have reached the madness of their own madness in destroying and misunderstanding not only tactical, but also strategic prospects. actually countries

they have no future economic future in the new configuration that samarkand is putting together today has shown this, but here the following is very important for us, that all we are talking about is high inflation in the west, there, uh, lack of energy resources and many other terrible forecasts. this is all the result of not our efforts, so i return to the topic that all the answers to the questions of our future lie in our own country and i am glad that as soon as possible we not only uh, created the prerequisites for uh, calm and systematic development of production where it is necessary to solve military problems. well, we created the prerequisites for the speedy modernization of our own economy and a demonstration of strength not to someone about ourselves, because all their problems will intensify many times over, when our country shows real economic sovereignty, and this is our goal. and the fact that there the lord god helps us. well, the general situation, but we

must welcome and take this into account, but in no way relax unconditionally. here is the pandora's box after which the massacre began the cascading collapse of international law probably took place in february. here the box was opened in february 2008, when the independence of kosovo was illegally recognized today, vladimir putin , accepting credentials from ambassadors, was there , including the new one went to serbia, stressed russia's commitment to the security council resolution, he 1244 that kosovo is part of serbia, while serbia now. more and more pressure for her to recognize independence herself on the one hand yes, a and this is put forward as conditions its entry into the european union, and secondly, that it join the european anti-russian sanctions, also as a condition for the progress of its entry into the european union. ekaterina gennadievna vucic will survive. and i'll probably start with the phrase with which

dmitry simes began the previous episode. kohl to explain to you, and the first i think that will stand. eh, there are three big groups of reasons. and the first, and a group of reasons, are those foreign policy successes of belgrade that have been made in the last decade and a half. and their this is today's balance. it is provided not only or maybe not so much, but counter-e, balancing between us and the european union, but also developed relations, primarily with china with ankara with the countries of the persian gulf, and e, of course, no one wants to lose this serbs know better than anyone that bite off a finger, and take it to the elbow, the second moment is the position that the serbian people demonstrated publicly, coming out in support of russia, sociology shows more than 80% support, and, but, the third moment certainly connected with the fact that alexander luchevich, as well as his colleague in the republic of

serbian milorado-dodik. now it is important to drag out as long as possible the claims of the objective on the part of the european union to vučić to the policy of belgrade and the dialogue from pristina, there are practically none of them, ah, ah. in this sense, the european union has already decided not to provoke or incite the albanians much more for the last 7 months, but to provocations of the serbs. it is unlikely that in the remaining period there, but two or three months of this year will be decided, and then we will see but i am sure that belgrade will not join the sanctions. well, quite rightly noted. today, vladimir putin met with milorad dodik, president of the republika srpska. and this is very important, because the balkans is that part of europe where russia maintains its presence and its influence. and this is also important in itself and in the conditions of the hybrid war that the west imposed on us, because the balkans, of course, the balkans are not only an important region from a geopolitical geo-economic point of view. although this is

important. yes, the balkans is an important market for russian energy and military products, but apart from this balkan. this is the region that shows that even in europe the dominance of the european union and nato is not able to ensure peace, it is not able to ensure stability and economic prosperity is not able to resolve conflicts, what can we say about other regions of the world, including, for example, the post-soviet space , and also the balkans this is a miniature multipolar world, because in addition to the european union of the united states and nato, there are russia turkey china others not western centers of power, it is this polycentric alignment that is most beneficial to russia; it was a big game. all the best. today

our guest is an artist who, by today's standards, does not have so many roles. however, without these today it is already impossible to imagine a modern domestic screen, including television . you imagine how it will be. here you and your son there lena through the perch, but where was this not for me? you meet a person, then you ask why? do you want me to be

it's all my fault, are you sleeping with my wife? i myself have longing, but this is excellent nonsense. all your dreams have arrived at a new address. looking, thank you sergey for coming to us?

hello when you last visited us four years ago after the triumphant international success of aleksey pogrebsky's film, as i spent this summer, we imagined you as a theater director, who from time to time selectively acted in films as an artist . years went by. and you haven’t stopped being a theater director during this time, we’ll talk about this later, but you act in films, as the people say, without brakes for these four years. i counted. almost a dozen, which means that the directors have finally made out, the artists, pieces of palis, or sergey starter 's finger began to lower the criteria, agreeing with him. from the passages you have chosen, you can judge that the criteria are quite serious for all these paintings, which are now in the same size that he showed. almost everywhere, here are the criteria, the same still remains. i just

think that i came with the court, that is, i needed yes well after the triumph of simple things and how i spent this summer you. uh, well, it so happened that they began to associate with arthouse cinema. and even here during that our old conversation. you somehow joked that leaving the arthouse is for you. this, well, practically an attempt to escape and for this an imminent execution. however, here. time passed and you sort of ran away from this arthouse ghetto and are already acting in blockbusters and in such long-running television films. here's a format change for you. what turned. i am, maybe not so much then. uh, i realized that the quarterhouse. i then associated the arthouse with something of high quality, where some kind of movement is still taking place, and not some kind of stagnation, and it seems to me that now those, again, films that have gone beyond,

let's say very elitist. i recently attended the awards, apd is an association of film and television producers. and there, as if the texts were saying that our films are television hmm, not for a not very euphonious name, the series for me is something causes some wrong associations in me. here's but this here's a tv movie coming out on some movies. now we can talk about it with sovereignty, it really goes to the level that claims to be the title of a movie for people about people you shoot from such an i, because the cry of an owl, i understand that it was about and about him. yes, of course, and i'm trying there. yes, that's why we will remember, which means one reviewer called you wonderful. i liked the russian wild bear cinematography. this is how she characterized sergey puskepa. i no longer know any secret desires. she hid in this one. eh, fantana characteristics. we must remember there, yes, but this is a recidivism. but

tell me, uh, how do producers see you, that you are most often offered this, after all, probably, people who are like that . . well, no matter how people. well, ain't no mob people. here e hmm such scales decent. yes well, bear probably, yes, well bear not just a bear, yes, because positive, because as soon as i start, because i don’t know everything , only one role, uh, in the filmography of our guest hmm, this is a negative role in the ross film and siberia is his cupid. and so everything is possible to write a dissertation the image of a goodie, and in the works of sergey they started, and you are not tired of playing on positive characters. as if i

said so, i was not tired. if it comes to playing in my personal or about creating works, still do about people, bad people, there are no people, in my sight. there are people who are confused, getting lost, if we are not talking about anomalies, about some pathologies that need to be treated. and so to speak already, if and how would there, what measures others use. you look anyway. it seems to me that those people who you call in my performance. eh, like like heroes. they, in some way, look at what lyosha and i used to say in pogrebsky all the time, uh, a character from simple things, a womanizer, an alcoholic, a bribe taker, and as a result, well, in fact, a man who is there in siberia, uh, here, how i spent my summer such, well, such a soap, yes, he sits like that all over, then , too, what a positive he is, such a granny sits, yes, and he torments the kid, he sits there and all like that. well, how would such a wild, so feral. uh, uh,

this uh, kgb detective. well , it's all the same in our heads. this man is some kind of dangerous. that is, they are all the same and they are all people. they are all people just talking to him with his own point. uh, there was a look, and you can't say that it's positive anyway. it seems to me that we, probably, have an attitude towards people, because i am people anyway. well respect, i i respect people. that's because he was even born , that he lived, for the fact that he lives for what he causes, uh, joy to those around him and if it causes, and what was the main thing for you and, let's say, for what you respected your hero. e captain grekov because of the film adaptation of life and fate. this is generally difficult for the captain of the greeks. i would say that i can’t tell you anything about this about this story with captain grekov, nothing at all, at the level of some kind of intuition, everything happened by sergey marsulak, who, uh, sort of i was considered in different postings there, well, as it were,

hypostases here. well, i thought we'd say so, and then anyway somehow said. all right, no need to invent anything. here you will be, well, it seems to me, grekov and that's it. well, there after two or three pavilions of ours with him. here is my moment. even now i can’t formulate it exactly, you know that. it's a sip of unexpected a sip of freedom on the brink of death is that how to say? there is ecstasy in battle and how there are abysses on the edge and there in the arabian hurricane. it's like pushkin said, yes, and in a whiff of the plague gives a stay in this borderline situation on the verge of death. and tell me, you can be the same free person, but in a normal everyday situation, no. no no, it's all the same. it's all the same it's from the history of

existentialism. only a man is his first, nature, true, nature, manifests itself only when he is threatened with death, all the same, one way or another, we collectively live in society. we must somehow correspond to whoever sees what we have. e, to still to support this common common life of ours, this common communal history of ours. all the same, we cannot be ourselves, because otherwise it would be chaos. it’s impossible, and it happens, it can happen only when the ship starts, let’s say, sink and then immediately, but you understand this, it’s always a moment, which is very short. he cannot, because ordinary life she assumes, like him, her stayer distance, that is, a fairly long one. but such a sprint story is bam 5 seconds. do you understand? who are you, but this is your relationship with the text of grozman's novel and with history of this novel, this book once passed me by, fortunately. probably because i would have read it in

a series of other literature, as it then arose in the post-soviet russia and, uh, read it only after sergey from the sulak offered me this role. well, in general there is participation in this. i would then start reading this book in st. petersburg. and i read it with terrible agony with tears. uh, i threw it against the wall there when, well, when there were terrible moments, because for me it was she who entered. it's just that this text digs into me. just history is normal. here is what collapsed was arrested for state security, what suslov told the author that this pocket would be printed in the ussr only after 300 years. well , i was wrong. this is where she went wrong. yes, maybe they just dwindled, in fact, everything is fast here in russia, maybe they have passed these 300 years. it’s just that in such a concentrated form, i’m a question, of course, a little out of the category, if he was carrying cartridges, but i think you will understand me, but i

sadly posed questions in my novel. eh, on which even now not everyone will dare to answer, but he has undergone a lot in his life and the arrest of the novel. and that's all it is. now, if you suddenly, as a person, had a talent on the scale of grozny and you understood that you had some kind of explosive artistic idea in your hands, but you would let yourself feel that it was explosive, you would write this work. or they would have shortened themselves and would not have done this. i will answer now, probably, most likely, as a director, who, if he started to make, would a story, about a person of such a level as vasily grossman would probably only offer such a story that a person who writes such and in such a way. he does not try, m-th concept of the results

of his activities. he gets rid of this material. he doesn’t understand him, he can’t get rid of him, because it’s deadly. for him, it's like me to i would do so, and present myself with this dilemma situation. now, if if i were infected at the same level , the same, i would do the same. i would i would of course got rid of her. what, in general, do i also do periodically when i do performances and how? well , when i myself become the author of those worlds that i create, because i can’t do it, if i can not do it, i don’t do it at the same time as life is fate, and fyodor bondarchuk’s picture stringgrad was released. a work similar in subject matter, well, unlike the russian film, uh, it was a theatrical release and bondarchuk's film broke at the box office, somehow we know. and if

we say i'm all the time questions you see today as if your son gleb were not 22 years old, as it is now at 14:15, and you would also need to introduce him to what it was , the battle of stalingrad and the war, in general, what kind of movie would you recommend watching to his son. and you know, maybe i'll surprise you. well , first of all, definitely. well, i'm not surprised i didn't watch it. this, of course, the battalions are asking for fire. no , i mean from two pictures life is fate or stalingrad is it a dangerous question you are asking now , because you are now drawing me into a comparative analysis, which is better then or how i wouldn't wish bad things on my son. i think that, probably, i would have told him to look, and then, then tell me what is the main difference between these two. i want you, maybe this is my, uh, some kind of failure or luck or still a failure. i'm stalingrad unfortunately, because it needs to be viewed in 3d, but in order to understand and appreciate, well, i'm going to do it to the fullest, i

didn't have the opportunity, because i wasn't even in the country when i was walking this rental history. i don't know now where where it goes in 3d and while i don’t have the opportunity to watch it, but i won’t specifically watch it from a laptop or with some kind of media, because you can’t watch it on tv, because i want to watch it in the format that the artist suggests, that is, fedor sergeevich bondarchuk here. when i look in this format, i will understand. why where will you answer your questions. i think yes advertising on channel one on february 24 we woke up in a different world. i stood at the place where people died and i had no more questions. movie premiere alexandra frank came zapadentsy and began to buy bits, the first shelling of donetsk is when ukraine began to bomb the airport. we then saw the light on

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journalists have been asking demandingly for many years has happened, when the theatrical director's finger acting in films finally starts making films, as a director it happened uh the film is called clinch. we don't know anything else. why is the clinch called, what is this story about, in general, teachers of russian literature, who, teaching such lofty truths, start from realizing that, well, as it were, how natural such a question arises. and is it necessary to begin to be disappointed in life, because a nothing visible results from his such life activity , he falls into such enough misotropy regarding this. peace and gets into history, he really is like that it turns out, like alexey with lapovsky. uh, screenwriter. uh, it turns out like this, what do we call a psychological thriller, and who plays the main

role alexei serebryakov and how did you manage to get such an artist demanding in every sense through the script, only yes, well , through the script, and then, because my last name. just, probably, is a guarantee that it won't. just uh, hmm such pampering, like in a movie already. well, yes, it probably exists. this is your branding helps you find money, doesn't it? sometimes yes sometimes no, but i think rather, yes, because people understand that if they contact me and understand, uh, what does it threaten or vice versa? what does it shine, yes, then? well, they clearly understand, in general, where their money will go, but i know, i will not go into details, that during these years that we have not seen each other. you not only acted in films, not only became performances, but you were looking for money, but, but sometimes they refuse right? yes, but how here is a man with such an appearance of a wild bear, a

russian cinema. and how does he hide the annoyance of emotions when he comes asking for money, and they say to him, sorry, those are not like come on, get out of here , i will never give this money. it's just that it coincides with politics or there with the feelings of any company as a result, anyway get out. well no. well, not you. get out, just. well, it doesn't sound like that. we just can’t wait until we pull, and you come out proud from there. well, i'm leaving already enchanted here. so do not pull the script, as in my opinion, any director, say the script, like a good one. how can we not pull? why not pull something? as for the rest, we pull on the rest, we don’t pull on it . but this is a very personal feeling. they i think are present in every director in your biography about money. there was one personal episode they told us about this, and the last time when in the saratov youth theater i just remind the audience when our guest serves in the saratov youth theater and was going to stage something there correctly, and the theater director allowed him to put on a book

a shop in foil, which happened at the very least. you have collected some money and it helped you to put the spectrum. and you with this. uh, we didn't go north. well, he is partly, probably, like that, because the lion's share of the money is more. and in general, maybe even the main one was allocated by the ministry of culture. that is, here i am, as it were, with this, probably, uh, as if branding, probably, the competition stage was co-serving. that is, i am a fair fight, this is not what is there in a private fight by the government, and so to speak, here in the ministerial culture decided, that we will give money to this guy, we actually had a slightly different idea, using your previous experience. here, while walking around moscow, we accidentally absolutely saw a public catering establishment. and it has a title and a subtitle. uh, sergei puskepalis' establishment. but you had no desire to somehow include income from there. uh, in the production of your man from those incomes, it's still

too early to tell, because such a complex business. uh restaurant. i mean, it's still while it's still it's even apparently for the next there are no pictures, really. i just want to confess that i didn't expect how complicated and how painstaking this is, how er, smart smart business it is. and i mean the restaurant and now in order to now, if there are incomes that i will have. indeed, not that i will fatten there. and if there are incomes that will be normally deducted, directing is my main activity. of course i will take not even a question. i suggest removing this thread. and then they decide that we are asking for it. and i want welcome. no means welcome is what you said to you. i want to remind you. what ended our last meeting here in the studio. you said come. uh, welcome 1 was, let's say, one, but to yaroslavl to the theater, in which at that time he directed. uh, our guest

today, he was the chief director of the yaroslavl academic drama theater named after fyodor volkov, we already kind of looked like the chief washed, how to buy tickets there. uh, get trains and then it turns out that after only a year after our meeting. you left the chair though the main thing in the director of the islamic theater. please tell me, how did you feel when you left, right? with a mixed with a mixed feeling, because there was one component of this feeling was such a pleasure from the work done from and from the results of this work, the second is that life is so unexpectedly awkward, it turns out to be wiser- well , how to say, more difficult than we expect , because it happened so there were circumstances in our tandem. and i considered the management of this theater only in tandem. this is boris mikhailovich the director is my director and i, as the chief director of another demo there, i did not even imagine then. going

to this position and when boris mikhailovich happened, the misfortune that happened about it was better. well, he was forced to return to the place of his former work, the novosibirsk opera and ballet theater, a very serious institution, and there with great love. well, as it were, well, it was he who actually built this theater. naturally , after him, i considered it necessary just too, well, get over already. well well at that time in moscow yes, well how after that i staged a performance in omsk in moscow, that is, i, well, i also went, but to get over relations with the yaroslavl theater. yes, but they allow it. yes, but the guys come, if i ever visit yaroslavl, we morchel to each other evgeny, who remained after us , the artistic director of our comrades is such a fact, and on the website of the yaroslavl theater, well, we looked at the poster of the repertoire of three performances staged by you during your work, and in the repertoire was left with only one out of sight and out of his heart. well

i would say so, because that performance called three sisters still required constant more, that is, we rehearsed it for a year and, in my opinion, it went on for more than half of the season, and it required more improvements. that is, it was also necessary to rehearse it. well rehearse. this is just a production question that arose. i didn’t have time for this, the millionaire is poor. here on on on how to say i really like the performances, i liked the themes and that's it, but he well, you see, he did not coincide with the position already. e of the current artistic director with eugene he had the right to remove it, but this did not correspond to his aesthetic view, and, so to speak, to the strategy of the theater. well, the page has been turned. i now offer new pages, and the works of our guest on the walls of other theaters, in this case, the moscow church. let's look at the screen. i don't understand, that's the point of living, if you work out

some kind of moral value system for yourself all day long, you insult me. i always say that for courage - this is the most difficult test, some kind of lord came strange some this morning to go out i see you, then a whole year and only now i saw it for real i must tell you what it is why do you decide the word for me? why do i help people?

not a moscow director here, explain the question. well , well, apparently, you need to understand how this person should work in moscow. i graduated from peter novoche fomenko's gitis. i consider myself, well, a director who works in moscow and does not disdain to work sometimes proud to work in the regions and just a director, because i'm not well moscow the director is what kind of russian on the bank, or something, you could be proud, only you didn’t succeed in working not in moscow, but from working in moscow. yes, but this is what is called the formation of personality. this is the development of personality. yes, it can be different for you . or maybe so, maybe from this corridor to go, maybe so many rooms. it turned out that i really came from afar from around the corner. e for before you start to put in moscow because the first and my attempts were unsuccessful

here and in the workshop of the farm in my home. i don't well, no, i didn’t put on a play before, and in the variety theater at gennady viktorovich khazanov’s. and after that i had one like this. a whole chain of creative failures after which i left for magnitogorsk and i was reluctant to waste these years and days trying to beat the thresholds to look for, so to speak, this happiness from the commonwealth with the director or with which theater i wanted to quickly start my career now in this form, so i, with a light hand, so i rushed there to the transural you put an explanation to the audience for two performances on distance from the moscow art theatre. and here, it means that they were also the home of the uchilim bees in the past. and the stage, uh, is filled with water. this means that the hero walks even in rubber wallpaper, but i must say that this is radical, but in comparison with other performances leading on this site. in

general, not very radical. just the same morality of gadcins. eh, even the seating of the audience there is so strange, bizarre, i'm not talking about the performances of bogomolov or serebikov's question. and how do you feel about the avant-garde. you know from great respect, if i understand that this is the same, here with such a concept. you know, how it happens when you look at what this or there dishes are, not to your mind or heart. if these two parameters match both mind and heart, or heart and mind, at least what will you do to me, what will this avant-garde performance be like, if it is avant-garde not a question in one interview, you said that you generally accept any work of art, except for harmful. what is a harmful work of art for you? malicious that says man is shit this is a harmful we, and so without it we always live on the presumed it, and it always seems to us that we are always there. i don't know how anyone. i personally, i always think that i am not very good, i

reflect there deeply internally. i think that i do not consist. well, i have these mine, i think that every person has them. and if you push me to this, uh, a work of art, i do n’t see anything useful in this. i myself will say some things to myself without this. and you can name some malicious works. no. no, then i i’ll name it, but, because, well, the truth is not with the word harmful, but i leafed through the reviews of your play three sisters and the pancake grew. well, they just didn't call it malicious. i'll just explain to the audience. and what's there, well, besides the fact that vershinin and masha, such rather free hugs - that's okay, and natasha and andrey are just studying, i'm sorry with love, and under the table it's written like that in mizant , but what's the most wonderful thing you entered to the stage the unfortunate wife of vershinin, about whom anton pavlovich chekhov did not write a word and there walks this woman, whose name is klara naumov

oil, i will ask only one why and then, to be more precise, uh, more precisely, show this one. eh, it seems to me, because it seemed to me that vershinin came to these, but such a crackling, and not because he was so, um, brave because he was so shy. from the fact that he is embarrassed by the situation in which he fell and his second marriage, which lowered him socially and publicly in the eyes of the officers of the entire personnel, and it is clear that these texts are actually not his clara's second best wife, and there everything converges on this, uh, explosion of feminism. and then there are stories. for some reason, i have with e, ivanov. ivanov. here, yes, here are some of all these things they wrote. it seems to me somehow. here they were around. i decided that

these are the words that he should say to the society; this is what his wife said to him on the eve of his departure here. what drove him here, because he came to the wake, and turned out to be at the name day for you to add chekhov is a desperate bold act or something natural for me it is natural, because remember and how pyotr naumovich made wolves and sheep and there and others. there forgive us zhan-batism, in general, relations with the author should be very extremely respectful, extremely reverent. yes, extremely in his in his key. and it seemed to me that here in three sisters. we caught this kind of merciless desperate world of anton pavlovich chekhov where people are saved, by all means, absolutely intimate from anything, because otherwise, i don’t understand how a modern viewer can see now, huh? two officers entering

seeing the room, uh, kissing natasha and andrey will turn away. i don't understand, officers. that's how they saw, well, they kiss, they kiss and that's it. well, my relationship is developing, uh, and not reverently. and not intimate. i'm absolutely just a registrar advertising on channel one . i don't kiss after the first season, first of all , i didn't see anything. and secondly, i have more interesting things to do here. yes, i live with him, his internet is faster. this is an opportunity to see the new in the old, and with a credit

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i connected myself. i also need the internet on the street. why go for a walk and without a podcast special offers and benefit up to 40% on fast internet for the whole family. choose yours on mts.ru. the commercial break is over. we are back in the studio with a program for the night, watching together with sergey puskepalis and now we want to talk about how our guest is expanding the geography of his moscow theatrical presence. we will show a fragment from the performance. the first, second coming, which sergei acted with, staged on the stage of the moscow provincial theater of the theater, which is directed by sergei bezrukov, let's see. and i

came to beer and said jesus christ the baptist of the son that alexey of many serials? and uh, well, a lot of things just a good writer. this is my favorite author. eh,

sergei puskepalis, in my opinion, eight eight, in my opinion, this is the eighth performance and the clinch will again be according to the scenario of slobovsky. that is, slotovsky came up with, and he put his finger on the start, kindly, provided by the handless story, and the second coming of christ, so that everything was clear to everyone, but the truth is in the image of christ, here is peter solomon peter the former paratrooper such a macho village provincial question. although of course, after the clan is a smart question and everyone disappears. well, that's not less zada- question. you are not afraid that you are now somewhat out of training. and that e may follow or may have already followed some complaints about those feelings you might hurt, because the feeling is religious from i think that, well, i would first of these people who feel, whose suddenly i planted for me is extremely. e oddities this performance. maybe hurt religious feelings

about us with this. well, i don’t want to comment further on anything, i would first send to the novel, which was written 16 years ago by alexei with the lapu language of the same name, the first second coming, in which it is said, of course, is not clear. it's not that christ came, it's about what, as it were, the whole religion, as if in general, what it says, are you similar, are you ready to follow those precepts, that teaching and morality, then, well, that example, which e taught us e son of god, this is understandable in the grotesque why because you can’t seriously talk about this story when you started playing? these are like, well, rough role-playing role-playing games, and there in-in as a result of this grotesque, in this logical situation, tragedy arises, as it seems to me, genuine feelings arise when a person decides to go to golgotha ​​in a peculiar way. yes. and

the most important thing is that when he is with him, i don’t want to say that i saved one human life with me, all this is very much what is called mercy, this whole performance comes to this, but through such a very sharp very unexpected let’s say unexpected approach to again the main component of our soul, well humanity, who are we from? why do we live, and in general, have we forgotten some important things in this regard, do you understand? if he says so, then it’s fyodor mikhailovich who should be there. everyone is already there, mikhalych. so don’t worry, the companies will be good, so you put it on and you put it on the stage, in kamergersky lane, and on chistye prudy on chaplygin street and here kuzminki territory uh, not very well-

known very theatrical, let's say so, but how does the spectator who comes to kuzminka differ from the spectators who come to your performances now in a career? well, probably less than less guests of the capital i don’t think, yes, well, people who get into theaters, so to speak, well, according to already, so to speak, according to the accumulated fair, accumulated reputation. this litigation here is not a casual spectator. it's no accident here. all the same, all the same. well, i think so, because i think that sergei will still need a long, long time. well, how to paint this building. it is very complex very painstaking. not even work, but a variety of activities. you once said i read in what if there was a nomination for the most unproblematic son, then your son would have won in this nomination. gleb, i can only envy and ask. and how did it happen that they raised a non-problem son. what pedagogical principles guide? well

, i also have the feeling that, firstly, it was not only i who grew it, my friends also dodged my social circle, in which he was constantly on my comrades. that's who i'm with who let him be there, because we moved all the time or something else and somehow i tried to have him with me. this is the second time. i think he just has a good heritage. he uh, that's good from a good mom. this is a good dad. this is also, probably, important and grandmother. he had good grandfathers, as if a good heredity is also, in my opinion, also important. and well, some of you know him, i can’t say, you have some personal qualities that just found some kind of support in me too. i suggested something in time or just didn’t interfere with personal examples with my uh. e to artists. like me i understand you didn’t interfere with him and

nothing came up with obstacles. yes, but now i was going to my respected teacher. deep. deeply, dear sergey vasilyevich, to my wife. well, they acted under the last name . yes, they acted, so i played. but she's here sergei vasilievich you need to know. it could play the other way too. it's there, it's the same to listen to. yes. and you play, as i understand it, in the notes of the note. have you seen yes? well, yes, it seems to me that he is not out of inertia in this profession. somehow the whole trip is streamlined so it answers not exactly not by inertia in this profession. do you talk like dad or like before? now, if i didn’t know this, yes, vanya yankovsky is there to replace workaholics. and how oreaholics work plow, like, uh, negroes, it 's clear on the plantations, and the result is something vanka is beautiful in these notes of the dead. i watched, yes, yes, with remarkably, simply subtly,

in general, what a wonderful performance they had. uh, according to the cases of vera kamyshnikov, according to plato, it is indicated that they are amazing not only that they simply understand what they are about. well now the most interesting will begin, and you did not interfere with gleb to decide on a profession. in general, he had no other choice, because, well, he just reminds the audience behind the scenes of the fomenko theater and hmm at a young age, he starred in koktebelev based on khlebnikov’s pogrebsky well, that is, it’s understandable, but now the most interesting will begin, because a test of ivanov’s profession was appointed for the role of petrovna, this means that this one is being filmed, this one is not being filmed. well, and so on. here's how to explain gleb, perhaps, he himself already understood this. or how to explain to us how in this dependent, in essence the profession to remain independent in their own identity not to lose. i think we should

not dwell on it. still, the profession involves an irregular working day, that is, you have to come at 8 o'clock in the morning, and leave at 6 o'clock at the whistle of the factory. that is, no one controls me at a time when you are not busy rehearsing, there and so on. and so on. it is necessary to look for the outlet of this creative energy at one time, when i was still at the saratov theater for young spectators, and igor yatsko is now a director. e, vasilyevsky vasilyevsky yes this is my classmate, he also came from moscow and we formed a studio. e theatrical arts, and in our free time we rehearsed, we came up with something. we were doing something there. we, too, did not have a single free, not a single free minute. this helped me tremendously. just pushed my horizons was the leader igor yakov who came. here, vasily , do you have some? undertakings with their term papers , he checked them for us, then he left to take tests, which

means that in moscow it was very cool. i think, that gleb uh with the guys. well, they have enough employment in moscow, after all, there are shootings and so on. it seems to me that you can’t get hung up on that, they distributed it and then distributed it to go to the sofa. and so, uh, or something else. it seems to me that it is impossible. this. well, that is, it is necessary to engage in optional creative activities, this is a positive example. he would be so positive. simple, really it's just it's it's vital. is there, for example, maybe you didn’t have any mistakes in your life that you wouldn’t have enough to gleb them repeated. right now, i can’t quickly answer this question quickly, so i need to understand where i screwed up. well, here are moments like this. this is how i understand that this is how i think so, that is, even if i did it, i somehow erased it from my memory. because this is such a girey sitting, and it

drags to the bottom, and your first performance in yaroslavl was e. with your loved ones, part with the volodya. yes, and alexander sich has wonderful poems, verse , prose, and what i really love, though, for some reason then triumphs, remember, yes, but this is true for some reason it triumphs for some reason, then for some reason it triumphs, really. i won't ask you to believe or in the triumph of truth is natural, but still they are no longer so positive and to such an extent, but do you believe in the victory of common sense? oh, you know, i want to believe it. but uh, that too. my master has such a beautiful phrase. pyotr fomenko has the energy of delusion, she is so yes, this is not his phrase. this is someone's phrase of tolstoy nikolaevich, the energy of delusion, when common sense suddenly ceases to be common sense

melts into the energy of delusion. well, relatively speaking, i think that ours or yours there. maybe mine, probably were then in another country, when they did it in the seventeenth year, this one, too, probably, was in charge, as it seemed to them. common sense, but it turned out to be the energy of delusion, which introduced people there into some sensations that were not characteristic of them. this energy of delusion is she she is constantly. well, this one would be correct to say this phrase. it's very amazing there. uh, the word is, which it is very, but then, but then it is oh it is root word. here in this. e very such a beautiful expression. she then it is always with hindsight. when we understand that a person is so arranged. he ca n't. right now it would be a robot, then it would still be a toy of the passions of some instantaneous sensations, some kind of music was broadcast on the radio. suddenly, once and suddenly, something so slandered today that no one even

expected some trick from him, then all his life he will pay, repent, and so on. this is such a kind of energy delusion. then, well, common sense he he still exists. well, unfortunately, he said correctly, yes, volodin, what then, but hurry up is not useless. it seems to me that, following my own example, i also understand that this is good, then somehow. if anything can be fixed. if you are aware, that is called conscience. i wanted to ask you, what illusions have you parted with, but now i want to reformulate the question. what kind of people do you not want to part with? well, without a doubt, in this phrase. here is this illusion, it is a beautiful illusion. e. after all, i think that i am not i want to give up the illusion that i am immortal. that's because it seems to me that i can't do it, i always scratch myself, this is a thought. well, i understand very strongly

that i am mortal, so i really want to think that i am immortal. i don’t want to part with this illusion. i don't want to part with the illusion that i'm that i'll be old, that you won't yes to young forever drunk. i don’t want to part with this illusion, because i don’t want to be decrepit and burden someone with anything. hello within the information channel on the first program time will tell is working live. i'm

artyom sheinin finishing the broadcast yesterday. i said that at that moment there were already reports that the public chambers of the dpr of the lpr. appealed to the heads of these republics with a request to hold. uh, an immediate referendum on joining the russian federation, and i said, well, obviously this is very important news and obviously this is news that cannot but be continued. and this continuation and this development should be. here comes the speed. strictly speaking, there is no need was to be a prophet because. continuation and development today, of course, they happened, it happened because the dates for the referendums have already been set, and will not be held from september 23 to september 27 in the dpr lpr. e, the kherson region and the zaporizhzhia region, and the liberated e territories, the meetings that took place in the kherson and zaporizhia regions were also

expressed. uh, such appeals to the heads of the temporary civil war civil administration. in general, uh, the dates are already known, but this is not the only thing. eh, development is generally expected. the only development, since it is clear that these are, well, very noticeable and serious steps in the development of the situation, and today the state duma voted in the second and third readings of amendments to the criminal code of the russian federation , which clarify many, a concepts. and a lot of laws regarding one way or another, uh, the conduct of hostilities and the scope of the vision of hostilities and the behavior of military personnel during hostilities and the concept. e, unauthorized abandonment of the part and the concept of surrender to without e, grounds and the concept of looting and the concept of martial law and the concept of wartime about all this. today we

will talk, especially since i don’t doubt for a second that these are not accidental. ah, coincidences. e that yesterday these statements were made today were in the second and third reading, these laws were voted by the state duma tomorrow. and as mr. cliché said, this will be voted on in the federation council accordingly. tomorrow, in accordance with the law of the russian federation, this can be signed by the president published since that time. and this will be considered as entered into and entered into force norms. betrayal is likely, yes, and while we all understand that this is not a coincidence. and since all this is happening against a backdrop of completely barbaric. there were shellings yesterday by the dnr late last night in the lnr, and in the dnr a total of 16 people died yesterday , including children in the lnr. last night, seven people died, including children, and all this is happening. eh,

well, with such a special jesuit, because. i understand that always everything that we do. eh, this connected not only with what the kiev regime is doing. but it seems to be addressed to those who are behind them. here, to make it clear who is behind them. you all saw these terrible shots yesterday. they are impossible to watch. that's what the bbc is doing in this situation here's what the bbc is doing in this situation scum simply. 13 people were killed in a series of bombings in the separatist-controlled city of donetsk in eastern ukraine a russian-backed mayor blamed for the deaths, punitive ukrainian artillery shelling independent confirmation this is not yet the case, the ukrainian side does not comment on the shelling. this is to make it clear who we are dealing with and to make it clear. in what context, a and e, an appeal regarding referendums was made, referendums will be

held and the state duma voted and i think the federation council tomorrow is a very important context in the same context. today we are all waiting for you. ah, and as soon as, uh, it happens. you will see that this is the first speech at the first address of the president of the russian federation commander-in-chief of the armed forces of the russian federation vladimir a. putin a., they also write that the speech of the minister of defense of the russian federation, sergei shoigu, is expected. and this is a very important address for you and me, which we, of course, are waiting for, in which i am sure a lot of important things on all these occasions. we are quite obviously moving into some kind of new reality, if you like, into some kind of new reality, the contours that we will additionally learn and discuss today, but this we understand, not only you and i understand this, and

the leaders of those very, but western european countries, which, in fact, have been doing everything for 8 years so that this, this, this, uh, could grow and hold out in kiev, because. you remember that both france and germany were guarantors, together with us, of those same minsk agreements, which, as now, no one hides. nobody was going to perform in kyiv. so here is the macro. well, in my opinion, he already has such a reflex. as if e immediately runs to the phone, here is a macron, which means that he has already urgently requested a telephone talk. e with putin a. well, apparently. he wants to know something like that, well, before this appeal. i don't know how it will help him. but no matter how such a person is, scholz does not run to the phone. eh, well, after all, as if he were a german, so as not to run immediately to the phone. but how to give a tough one and already said that, of course, the frg does not recognize the results of the referendum in the donbass, pretending that it was after these referendums were held. and as soon as everything that

the state duma voted for today will begin to be performed, as well as about what. today we will hear from the president and the minister of defense whether he recognizes them or not, it will have some significance, just as, of course, it will not matter how they react and how they have already reacted. naturally, to all this fosterling of these. uh, schols, macrons, french, germans, americans, and so on. they are expected, of course expected, and well, in their own style, this is what they said there. well, there yermak, uh, means that we will solve all this russian issue. here we are not excites, probably, blackmail. they see some kind of blackmail in this and some horror stories. this is very significant, that is, these are people who do not come to their minds, that this is a referendum and this is for the people who live here and who have been waiting for this for seven years. they have everything within the framework of pr , some kind of horror stories, some kind of this, well, kuleba, respectively, sham referendums are also recognizable. nothing will change will not be hybrid

mobilization word mobilization has already heard. why won't it be not very clear and says that ukraine has every right to release them and very revealing podolia, who stated that the russians decided to respond asymmetrically, thinking that their attention referendums would stop the highmors and the armed forces from being destroyed. it's blah blah blah further in force by that is in other words. schultz is already saying they won't admit it. and these , respectively, mini-salts say that we, and we don’t recognize, of course, and how we fired. so we will shelling and then it arises. question in this sense. holding a referendum, i personally have no doubts. what will be expressed in these referendums by the people who take part in them, even though this one is generally quite dangerous. uh, the story in

light of these shelling then begs the question. and what, in fact, these referendums change for us? legal reality legal reality for us , reality arises when uh actors act as if they are subjects in the form of countries or civil society or individuals. it arises when they follow they remain in the legal field, when they follow the right, i recall that in thirteenth-fourteenth years in the ukraine there has been a coup d'état since then. uh , many different changes were made, but all of them are illegal, because at the very beginning, at the very root, the transfer of power was not legal; this, in fact, the verkhovna rada confirmed when u resigned powers to sinukovich a year after poroshenko was elected pro it is in this one that changes the current situation of the country. uh, or rather, those parts of ukraine that did not

recognize the state were in the legal the field is so, and all these guys were not, and you are completely. right now, uh, i'm focusing on the fact that it's not very important what they say and what they will do, because here it arises. a new legal reality, for example, which is the result of a plebiscite of the will, because the people are absolutely the source of power, but this new emerging legal reality will be all the more necessary, and any legal reality in order for it to continue to remain so. she needs protection oh, so these ghouls have already said that we we do not recognize and do not recognize this reality, and our hymers, as they flew. so they will fly. at the same time, we all remember that all these hummers that arrive both at college and at shops and at the bus stop are all corrected by westerners, and the ukrainian side itself admitted this. that is , the guys are already telling us. we are in your new legal reality, as we shy the hammer we will shoot, and we will shy then

the prospect arises, or the total protection of this legal reality in the form of valuable military actions, if you understand what i mean, either a counter-terrorist operation, which also implies some kind of expansion of capabilities in the territory now, we will continue igor. i am aleksey alekseevich why am i asking this question, because many people ask me this question and i do not have a clear answer. i'm all the same, i tell them that you understand that after it becomes the subjects of the russian federation after the referendum, the shelling of donetsk and luhansk will be worn. uh, it’s already a different character, because further people and these people have the right to ask questions, because this is a fellow soldier who lives in kursk, guys from the belgorod region. they ask me for a second. and that the territory of the russian federation had not been shelled until that moment? they say they didn’t go over to me and we didn’t go over, they say they’re going to total war for me and now they’re sitting in front of tvs, they say it’s so interesting, that is, it means that we have the same territory of the

russian federation that is already being shelled and that it wasn’t before killed russian people on the territory of the donetsk luhansk people's republic, so i i mean citizens of the russian federation, and therefore this question also needs some kind of answer. well, we, of course, do not know everything. we are waiting for the president's speech and waiting for some, but nonetheless. well, uh, especially since you are there to communicate with people and so on. what does it change in your opinion, in my opinion. this changes our attitude and makes it more respectful towards all residents of the donetsk donetsk lugansk people's republics. they are equal in all rights with citizens russian federation in all rights. so this is the first. they get perks. everything is motivational. right now, for many people, especially in donetsk who are under shelling, this is power. motivational step why because russia, that is, they supported russia for 8 years, participated in the formation of the last political one for many very faithful ladies.

uh, so to speak, champions of unity with russia. and now they need to be supported in a very difficult mood, but the second question and the second question is that when it will be the territory of the russian federations - it will be a completely different steam assessment of everything that will happen on our territory, yes, which, well, is the source. what will ukraine itself be, the same shelling, everything else is a completely different legal assessment, because today it is all being assessed by the investigating authorities of the donetsk e people's republic and tomorrow these same crimes will already be classified, in a certain way by our investigating authorities and ours and maybe accepted completely different legal assessment. for example, if today we have this operation. yes, the operation is so tomorrow it is real, if we are talking about terrorists, and we really really give a legal assessment that these are terrorists, then terrorists, like

israel, for example, or other countries. they beat terrorists. it doesn’t matter on what territory, and at the same time, we can quite easily take more forceful influence on the territory of ukraine, because many actions that will be completely qualify differently. describe the scope of the word to me more. right now, for example, when the ukrainian armed formations strike at the territory in the belgorod and kursk and bryansk regions. we are doing what we are doing quite a territory. e, which is now called still here. uh, ukraine yes, and in kharkov in volumes in nikolaev we hit and so on, when you say more, what do you mean by big under big. i mean, in this case, it's already the destruction of the entire infrastructure that the terrorists use, who use the appropriate methods of forceful influence on the inhabitants of donetsk is now holding back in your understanding. this is what, let's say, when

those territories that endured this for 8 years become our citizens and our territories. yes , it gives some additional moral. well , i don’t know, there, maybe, some kind of morality gives a slightly different shade to the moral aspect what we will do after the annexation of the donetsk luhansk people’s republics and, accordingly, zaporozhye, the questions are obvious. more once again, these questions are asked not the first day for sure. and you, too, are your voters. and the truth is your voters do not live in these. uh, areas, so to speak, but i think that people from there also turn to you . the range of questions is quite understandable, yes. i want to say that everything that was said about the legal consequences of the causes and consequences of holding referendums and the results of these is certainly important, but i would not get hung up on the legal side of this

issue. it is important internationally. it is important in any from any point of view there are a lot of details, what can be changed due to the fact that the donetsk and luhansk people's republics are recognized by us as part of it, if they vote for it, the russian federation, i want to note that not kherson nor zaporozhye in fact, over the past 8 years, have not been the object of hostilities, but now they have become, and as a matter of fact, there has never been any zaporizhzhya people's republic or kherson people's republic. and if a referendum is held there, it will mean that they acquire subjectivity. in any case, on the moment of making a decision on joining the russian federation is the right side of the issue, but i am convinced that the main reason that these referendums have been announced is the need to change the attitude to what is happening, first of all

, in russia and in these territories. yep, because how. it seems to me that after these referendums, the thesis that we are continuing a special military operation. in fact, it will not be so convincing. what we talked about is that in fact we are talking about the patriotic war the war for survival for the protection of their people in russia , we are talking about the fate of russia and this is required in the background. including those events that took place in august-september of the forced retreat of the kharkov region, which made an impression and a negative impression on people, it is required that people in these liberated territories know that russia will not really leave them, that from now on . it will consider an attack on these lands as an attack on its own

territory. i want to point out that referendums, in fact, were declared, even in the summer there were, and, firstly, they were announced in these territories themselves. secondly, this was supported by a number of political public figures in russia , for example, the secretary of the general council of united russia, who often visits there, turchak , repeatedly spoke about the fact that the rezorifei called the terms of various kinds, it was assumed that they would be held in september. then it was shelved. why is this process forced now, because such is the dictate of time after everything that has happened? yes there is still one aspect. in my opinion, it is international, because it has become completely clear that in fact it does not limit the choice of means of fighting russia through ukraine and is not going to limit it. this is stated by everyone that the macron is now trying to contact putin. this is for

history in order to be able to say later, i warned him not to do this. he says, they say that he was denied this conversation. i think it's quite logical that we're not participants, what's with the wording. we love you too warned many times. you know what we are not , uh, not participants in, uh, the self-promotion operation of the macron, which he is involved in, it must be said in connection with the events in ukraine, trying to present himself as a lot of people who are engaged and to the end are more than engaged, because he i would like to keep the impression of a person who is ready and able to get through there to get through there, in short, yeah. i don't think he wants to clarify anything. he wants to once again make an attempt to scare russia with the consequences of such referends, therefore, no one will talk to him. what is it? here i will try to present this conversation now. no, it doesn't work. well what we er we destroy is the last opportunity. first

version. it's more accurate that he just wants to be, as it were, at his peak. well, that's all, all the same, you know how the holy trinity e is not a merger, because, in fact , and this is a desire and another. but in general this is not the most. the main thing. it's just a detail that says more about the nature of the macron than it really does about what's important. so the important thing is that so that we perceive everything that is happening as a real fate, as the need to stand up, uh, uh, to protect our people of those territories that we are now the people of our country of our country. uh, what we are, i'm sure, i'm so hopeful that it's something that we've talked about here on numerous occasions, that uh for all the importance there, huh? uh, some specific uh things that are interconnected with the thesis of a special military operation and so on and so forth. yet

events have already, uh, stepped over the bar for this special military operation. and we must do in compliance. here we get the conclusions directly and what happened happened, including in the context of what happened in august in september, as a response to this is exactly what the president was talking about. we haven't started fighting yet. here we are starting. yes, i absolutely agree with you. and just this is your wording. thank you she. well , i, i hope, to many of our viewers, and to me and with those with whom i will then communicate. she moved me forward because the wording that a special military operation to protect the republics donbass after the referendum. it is already developing into hostilities to protect the territory of the russian federation and the population of the russian federation, this is the most important moment, which, at the same time, does not exist separately from the whole

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for most of you there is no doubt how those who remained there will vote, because the people who live and still remain on the territory of the lugansk people's republic and the donetsk people's republic, can you imagine as these people should. well, so to speak, wait for it. and how to hold on to it and well, igor nods. i also talk to many of them. this is for many of you, as if without offense. it's hard to understand. here is this, how to call it the suffering of all this, as regards the kherson zaporozhye regions, where mr. fedorovich rightly said there were hostilities, and there were no hostilities for so long, but nevertheless for them. well, so to speak, the hostilities that have been going on for these six months. this is enough, i'm not afraid of this word referendum. i have talked to many people, they tell me there too, you understand in these territories. here

is the kherson region and the zaporozhye region, the liberated territory there, in general, is already a referendum for many. we went through this way, because everyone who did not want to leave, and who stayed, in the majority , by this already expresses his position. i’m talking about this and saying that i have no doubts in the referendum about the need for it. in its results and so on, but we are moving forward today according to the program , we found out that in fact it is of great importance holding this referendum, and also consists , among other things, that after summing up its results, in which i personally this is my personal point of view, i have no doubt that a special military operation to protect the republics of donbass will inevitably develop into a military operation to protect and defend the territory of the russian federation and the population of the russian federation, which will certainly require new approaches and new solutions. and new formats for everything and everyone. i spoke about this both for

industry and for the financial sector. well for so that we can all start together. so i agree with this, so that we finally all understand together that we all ended up in a new reality, no one who lives here? and someone who is fighting here and someone who, at the call of his heart, helps them, and we all, well, in any case, we are all for whom the russian federation is something that is inviolable. actually within this. i think today's state duma vote. and this is one of those steps that is necessary in order for these further military actions to be actually more even more effective character, there are a lot of points that also apply to people performing military duty. a and. eh, there are points here, and about unauthorized. the lines of the part about not appearing at the military registration and enlistment office and evading mobilization this is

for those who are subject to mobilization, and the word mobilization appears in these amendments, from which i know that today, so to speak, many have begun to have some. and as i understand it, we are talking about partial mobilization within the framework of the introduction of the concept of military mobilization wartime position. we will discuss all this now, but alexey alekseevich, in your opinion, the introduction and a fairly prompt vote. here on these points, in your opinion, what does it mean and what, in your opinion, should be and will be the effect of this for the whole society. for me are important. here are interesting amendments regarding not from the meaning of punishment for non-fulfillment, but from the defense of the order and for violation in connection with its execution of the execution of the state body of the order violation of the conditions. yes, this is a group of articles. we are extremely important because she, uh, regulates has to regulate. uh, those uh enterprises that are

now actually the main such, providing, component of a special military operation in the future, respectively, uh, others are possible. e forms of warfare, and therefore now at this stage, this is the most important, because, er, well, the body acts, when blood circulates in it, nutrients enter and are intact about the internal organs and at this stage. this is precisely what is important, a component and a determining component in the fact that what's going on here i to your image e about a functioning normal body and blood vessels. let me add here, er, in my opinion, one of the experts said on the air the day before yesterday or thursday. well, just as an example, because this needs to be explained more specifically, as an example, and as i understand it, partly about this, too, which is still, and everything that the

army needs and needs, and it is in the light of active hostilities need here, well right quickly a lot of this continues to be funded. well, as if no hostilities no on a residual basis and within the framework of existing regulations. that is, something needs to be written there, then i have my 90 days for some kind of you, then i have absolutely correct financial discipline, including a large ministry of finance, hello, mr. siluanov in this case. well, you understand mr. siluan. i think that, like many people and the military, and not only the military, he actually works within certain limits, including legislative ones, and if these frames are reformatted in a new way, and he and his subordinates. well, i still admit that with great joy they will also start working on laws within the new framework. we really want. we, probably, under the sanctions, too. it was assumed that under the sanctions, the ministry of finance would work somewhat differently. he continued to work in exactly the same way, so now our more than $ 300 billion is in captivity, in fact. uh-huh

well, you know this, in fact, to those words of mine that i repeat every time, after all, the realization that we all need some new reality. well, yes, someone understands that she has changed faster, someone understands that she has not changed so quickly. we must understand that a large number of people, including those in the field of management and even at high levels. they are in a different reality than the one we have now . you understand a person who is consciously even now forty-year-old people. yes , even, in general, out of forty-five-year-olds, many people who, at a conscious age, did not have the last collapse of the country and the nineties, who lived all their lives here in this, as it were, the reality of recent years is difficult for him. realize that there is some other reality, that there are some other rules, other orders, other goals and other circumstances. this is a very important point, so these i agree with you all these points are very important. and er, in fact, they all require

decoding. all of them require an explanation of our understanding with you, i think that both the presidents and the minister of defense will also have a lot to say about this. here is igor from what is now beginning to be prescribed by law, what do you consider the most important and the most important, so to speak, now effective so that, well, both the army and society begin to work. he would support you in what is real, and the military now and you and i know this very well, they are doing a lot on the battlefield, a lot. and uh, now we need support. that's right, this whole country is right. he says that this is a new reality that is brewing in russia. yes, she should help. and that doesn't help. and what will cut off. here it turns. well, that is, well is converted to some legal documents, and you know, i’m looking at these first points, especially there, oval surrender, looting and so on, but this is not entirely, really, it worries me a lot. yes, no, it’s not uh, it’s not exactly about us and about looting, i uh,

reminded me of the fourteenth year wide near mariupol, when the new post office in ukraine already banned, but to export bulky goods. forged forged doors, gates, forged fences, and so on, these items for ukrainian military personnel are generally, that is, looting in itself. it must not be. that is, it is normal. so is this normal? well, i say that from the point of view that this is more what i have observed, at least what i have seen and even what is coming today is raisins, but raisins. you know that this is the city he told me to some extent i know that what is happening there is that they come, where they are drawn with the letter z already today and take out and refrigerators and television are regulated by our legislature. we are talking about our legislation and our people and their issues. yes, and their questions. that's what, that's that, when that's what it's being introduced, it's uh, well, as if it's normal. it 's normal, but i'd like to touch on something else a bit . uh, i was talking to my son, who i

think will be there with me in the near future, and you said something very interesting to me. she says, dad, i'm a little afraid there. yes, i say, we are all a little scared, but we need to do this work today. today, besides the fact that we must introduce legislative ones. and this is right. yes, we must also conduct today with them, with these young guys, who tomorrow will be there, that's exactly the work, not only with the screen, not everyone knows something, you mean talking about your son. since you said that, then decipher what? in view of the fact that he will be there with you, he is a cadet, he is a kremlin cadet graduating this year in moscow and and we, including you, are holding lectures with cadets in order to explain and will continue to explain, that is not only to have, uh, legal documents for them. yes, but there was an understanding why we were doing all this there on that territory. and in the first place for them, because they will become the first echelon

of this new russia that will defend its rights, including on the territory of lugansk donetsk zaporozhye kherson kharkiv region, and so on. this is an important one that will regulate their activities in the future. but besides this, we must also do the work that i said, igor, i agree, especially since it is for many young guys who will soon find themselves. that's where they will carry out their tasks, and i also communicate with officers, uh, who are on the front lines there, including, uh, and uh, with officers of the airborne forces and the question that not all military personnel, not all military personnel, and do not always fully understand. and what is it, in fact, and within the framework of what they are there. here, among other things, it depends on the fact that it is not fully spelled out and e, the concept of wartime, martial law, and so on is discussed just like the points about

e, leaving a part is what alexander and i were talking about last week, that e ? well, here are the 500s you know. yes, that is two hundredths - this is the murdered three hundredth floor. this is not from the five hundredth, then the one who, well, as if he didn’t understand something, or got scared of something, got up and went, and then with him exclusively, as it is labor relations, yes, that’s all. there is no legal assessment by any grass. by the way, how do you now understand the main chapters? new decoding questions, well, a lot of this they are for you, as you understand, a lot of this is of interest to people and directly in their own lives. not only as observers from the outside, but also as promising potential now participants in this case. and here is the question of who how why on what grounds that we are mobilizing wartime war, he is your key dance floor. the way you build the program artyom makes me consider myself a triarius. so the turn has come, the dorians in the roman line. there were

guests the principles and the triad explained, but the last row, as it were, who take part in the battle and should bring victory. thank you for this forest forest i want to say, here we will quote once again voluntary surrender. captured by looting unauthorized abandonment of the part non-appearance of the military enlistment office. committing a crime during the period of mobilization or martial law and the execution by subordinates of the order of the chief, given in martial law, wartime, and so on, refusing to participate in hostilities. why do we make such decisions six months after the start of the operation , because no matter how much we would like to look at ourselves with loving eyes, these phenomena take place or can be, and we must

prevent this. if someone tells me that at the beginning of the great patriotic war. we did not have looting of the voluntary surrender of prisoners 227 of which in the summer of 42 in july, indeed the forty-second year, the order of the people's commissar number 227 was issued, known as not a step back. so, by the way, it's good that you mentioned this, not everyone read this order verbatim. begins with the words our people are losing faith in the red army. you understand, this is 42 summer. i want to say that it is necessary to separate the wheat from the chaff as far as the conduct of today's military operation is concerned. there is heroism, selflessness, sacrifice for a friend, which is well a wide phenomenon at the front on

the part of our servicemen for this people receive awards. they remember on the air of channel one in the information programs of our television , they publish their photographs more now to receive the front, that not everyone receives awards to receive the side of the moon, that is, in the case of looting and unauthorized departure from the unit and everything else, and this is unacceptable in conditions when we we are moving on to waging war, in fact, a special operation. at this turning point, when it is necessary to achieve success. this should be excluded from the general practice. in practice, there should be those who, due to their weakness, because of their cowardice or because of something else, risk behavior or self-interest, for example, when it comes to looting, considering

it possible for themselves, they should know that the punishment for it will follow. let's not be fooled by nature. in this regard, it is also known, uh, that what applies to the mass of people who are not involved in this and are not going to resort to this should, at the same time, be guaranteed by the fact that the rest too will behave appropriately. that is why all these decisions are being made and the word of mobilization. it doesn't happen here either. you understand, we have already heard a lot about mobilization, that it should be carried out, that it should not be carried out, full partial , and so on. i would like to draw your attention to the phenomenon of voluntary mobilization in the regions of the russian federation in recent weeks . well, on the one hand, as far as i know, there are already two battalions perform the task. of course, i support any patriotic impulse, but in my view of the

war. uh-huh, nothing voluntary in matters of mobilization should no longer happen. how do you imagine it in the current conditions, especially since now these concepts are spelled out or should be spelled out for themselves in such a way that at the moment, as far as is known and can be trusted by this fact, in ukraine, where several waves of mobilization have already passed under arms, there are 600,000 man and announced i don't know if they will do it or not, and what will be the quality of this replenishment, the desire to increase the number of armed persons participating in the fight against russia to 2 million people. if anyone among us thinks that with the help of a grouping of 200,000 people it is possible to solve these problems. with all our superiority in technology in e, apparently no one thought. in fact, we see that this is not the case, at least from the events that took place in early september, and we need to draw conclusions about the possibility, including partial mobilization or

full mobilization, if necessary, because that such is, after all, our duty, as citizens of the russian federation who swore allegiance, took the oath, received passports, and so on. this is how it should be, i see. if these are military operations, then there is only one guideline, the need to achieve a turning point and victory to achieve the goals that were required. so i agree with everything you say, but since you, uh, in general, figured out my subtle plan of recording you in real life. these are still veterans who will allow a lot of things, but, accordingly, a lot of things from they are waiting. still, after all, there are a lot of people who are now sitting in front of the tv, there are a lot of people who support operations and do not doubt the need to resolve issues, they sit and think, well, mobilization, but which is now already in the criminal code and these concepts will be described and how will it happen? who will be affected? this is being discussed somehow, you need to have some understanding of what is meant by mobilization. here

i can have a variety of understandings and ideas, but i should be you right, but i don’t really want to understand to take responsibility for declaring exactly which ages will be called up, understand in what quantity, how they will be further involved and so on, because this is purely a matter of understanding you of our ministry of defense of the supreme commander-in-chief. once again, i want to draw your attention to the fact that in my understanding of what should be done, there is also the coordination of the war and the rear and the creation of relevant bodies, which, by the way, were created in ukraine even then, while in our country within the framework of this, here, there, the state duma of the russian federation introduces the concept of mobilization into the criminal code. here you have already said, and here is the martial law and wartime . like here too. yes, here, i think it is necessary to listen to the people who were involved in the preparation of this law and actually

comment on what will already be adopted in the final version. here is wartime martial law the possibility of introducing partial martial law, for example in border areas, because there may not be any need impose martial law in the far east, but the possibility of martial law in the belgorod kursk region or let's say or the crimea it may well be necessary to understand, but in fact, uh, what your colleagues are talking about, it does not contradict each other, because when aleksey alekseevich is talking about this point with non-fulfillment of the state defense order and violation of the terms of the state contract. this is generally on a national scale to a large extent. this is also promobilization. civilization - it's not the first thing and it's not necessary. so to speak, the recruitment of some people who are mobilized somewhere by mobilization is, first of all, the performing discipline and the format of the work of the entire

state system from the defense order in terms of the production of weapons, which, if ordered, should be delivered without everyone. here are these 90 days, there are pieces of paper and so on, and ending with the fact that people who, and this requires clarification, who in certain situations, will be mobilized. they need to be outfitted. need them arm. they need to be fed and a lot more. what conditions of life do not imply, as if nothing is happening, and these concepts are wartime and martial law, and most importantly , this paragraph is about the state defense order. they include this integrated approach. he is very important. i hope today we will learn some parameters from the speech of the president of the russian federation, commander-in-chief vladimir putin, who we continue to wait for defense minister sergei shoigu in the middle of the day

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there were appeals about referendums. today it was announced that the referendums will be voted by the state duma, and for a lot of amendments and clarifications to the law to the criminal code russian federation, all these additions there and all the concepts that will now be introduced there. they make it very clear to me that this is necessary. for more efficient conduct of hostilities and more efficient operation of the entire country and industry and the social sphere in order to provide them with, uh, support and, of course , people who have heard about all this today and those who are now on the air have questions, really very many. i think we will discuss this not a single day, especially since here uh, the minister of defense will also speak today. well, even now, my brother-soldiers, my fellow soldiers, threw it at me in advertising. well, that is, these are questions that for people who recalculate everything for wartime there, by the way, they immediately ask the question of wartime. here writes

my brother-soldiers. but, for example, ammunition weapons that were taken on the battlefield of a dead enemy to continue the battle, is it tamrodding or not, is it looting or not? here in afghanistan, for example, by the way in afghanistan a to remove from the dead spirit, but unloading. it was like not very much, that is. this is not, as it were, not encouraged, because how would it be a point of looting, but like a weapon, there is ammunition and so on. it seems that the nuances of these nuances are huge, so to speak, the number of the same mobilization, about which but many people have an idea, and i'm sure it will now be accelerated in the networks, that everything is mobilization and that means that now it's all will come. uh, someone is already starting to tell some agendas, they will immediately drive them to battle, they will immediately drive them. this is what will happen now, but it will be the smaller, the faster and more clearly. we will explain this, please. this must be clarified , of course, and the most important thing that needs to be understood is that this whole set of measures, it is in fact a

response to those aggregates of their actions that, e.g., produced the so-called collective west, that is, western countries that are actively participating in fact with the help of instructors, mercenaries and so on through the transmission, intelligence of military operations. and this is the answer response to e. that set of actions that the kiev authorities allowed themselves from me and language in every possible way pessimizing uh, russian culture and so on and so uh, destroying monuments is a response. if she had not followed, then in fact in russian civil society. in my opinion. uh, an inferiority complex would develop, a guilt complex, or even some other more terrible complex. here. uh, this is the kind of thing they actually stop uh, these uh, nasty things. and u create a healthy feeling justice that justice will prevail sooner or later, but the new straight. now. you understand how much is now even though the concept

of mobilization is finally heard here. how long will insinuations begin on this topic? how many conversations will start now, so to speak . how many will start attempts to undermine and so on and so forth such a thing as defeatism is defeatism. this is a disease that actually accompanies any society that is somehow related to military actions, defeatism - this is unfortunately an element of panic. uh, what is a mental deviation and in essence? these people really, well, to some extent, they can, uh, be stopped and neutralized. uh, you can punish someone who is maliciously spreading defeatism, but basically these are just weak people who simply don’t understand what’s going on, uh, in order to stop such things , not only the president’s appeal, but also explanations are needed heads of regions, because the head the region is now actually becoming the main actors in the organization of all the work that takes place is important to the heads of the regions. and someone also clearly explained everything to everyone, because

relatively speaking, gladkov from the belgorod region does not need to explain anything. he himself has long understood everything. and i think that there are some regions in which, as it were, there is a presidential apparatus. i see. by the way, regarding the reaction to the referendums, which we are talking about, it means that the reaction of the white house came, so, uh, biden made the statement that the referendum that russia is organizing is an affront to the white house's sovereignty principles of sovereignty and territorial integrity. this is stated by the white house, if i understand it, this is the united states of america. but it is like a country that knows everything about sovereignty and the principles of territorial integrity. well, starting and, as it were, further everywhere. in general, predictable, how unfortunately predictable and then, and i think that this is also due to the fact that we are discussing the whole thing today, subjected the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant new new shelling has infrastructural damage. including in the cooling system, the kakhovka hydroelectric power station is also being fired at, our air defense is working, the new

authorities report this. well, of course. nato will consider illegitimate, the upcoming referendum, and the accession to russia said, uh, secretary general. and biden’s assistant for us security salivan, we are aware of reports that putin may be preparing to announce mobilization, by the way, for you to the question of, this is for you to the question of what now what now i just already know. eh what, uh here this training manual, this saliva is, roughly speaking, a signal to everyone. let's hit hit on uh, as they say, according to the manual, that's right now, i just guarantee that now all these sets will overflow. this is how their enemy resources will come down, which, by the way, i don’t know in the light of the appearance of the concept of martial law in wartime, should they continue to work here or not. now this one will start to wind up not to wind up. here is this, as it were, a go-ahead one here is a pretzel, american already actively, it means that he didn’t start writing that all the way

to the collapse in russia there, la-la poplars, until you live until the new year, we’ll live, dear, we’ll catch another one of your funerals. god bless you . igor wanted to add something, but i wanted to add that really, within the framework of this particular legislation, very serious explanatory work is needed. why because ? well, indeed, in that zone, all people understand everything. but the farther away you are from this zone , the less understanding and life it has. would, it goes on, it goes on. and in principle, our leadership has done everything to ensure that there is no panic in the state. well, this is everything that we have seen with you, yes, that is, this should be such a very serious educational work, including in the troops. everyone should understand, because look at myself. here i take it on my own, for example, it is written prisoner from 3 to 10 years. i was in captivity for 4 years and 3 months. well, as it were questions about how not. this is the very right moment. what is ah, wait. yes,

wait. that's it since you're talking about it about the most important means from 3 to 10. if there are no signs of high treason, you need to understand what the signs of high treason are. that is, if a person is not injured, but, for example, lost consciousness, if it is about a ship, well, nevertheless, i ’m saying why serious work is still needed precisely on these documents. and yes, serious explanatory work, because this is the case when every flaw and ambiguity will be removed, inflated, inflated, yes, and a signal. as you heard, sullivan has already sent all of our collaborators, including informational collaborators, some of whom, of course, left . and they will respond from there, and something will also need to be done about this. just now they brought me more parties about e. so sullivan said that biden will call on the world community on wednesday from the rostrum of the general assembly to resist the special military. well, in general, this is nothing new and the white house

announced that the united states will work with allies to tighten sanctions against the russian the federation, in the event that parts of ukraine enter into its composition, this should already be stopped paying attention to. we are already proceeding from the premise that this is now serious and for a long time and the life of pasanctions and the tightening of sanctions and so on. well, not everyone has come to this conclusion for a long time. well, uh, maybe not all now. uh, they will come to this conclusion, given their position already stated. well, and now, for example, i’m not sure that alla pugacheva will share our point of view with us, based on her statements recently. yes god s we will somehow survive this moment with her pugacheva, with regard to the measures that have been taken. and in the legislative, i want to emphasize this again, they are being taken in order to establish discipline in the rear of the front, because we are talking not only about the military at the front, but we are talking about industry, about the failure to fulfill the state

defense order, about the attempts that are often made means to engage in, uh, speculation on the basis of a defense order, price gouging in all likelihood or attempts. so to speak corruption in this environment. all this in wartime is judged much more severely than in peacetime, with regard to the decision of freedom for the surrender of captivity. if there are no signs of a state mine, here we are talking about the fact that the state of treason can pull on much more severe punishments up to er, very serious places. in any case, it hit from a three to a ten in the event that before that there is no e voluntary surrender in the arrow, we are talking about voluntary surrender. captivity in the case when for this you understand everyone roughly speaking, here are the azov people were given surrendered before voluntarily there was surrender , but i don’t know how this is interpreted in ukraine

, in my opinion, they also received it there. they seem to have received an order, generally speaking in the soviet union, surrender was considered in any condition. uh, except for the wounded or seriously wounded who lost consciousness, the so -called stalinist regimes were later condemned as a crime for this, and so on, but the fact remains, only in this way. in fact , it was possible to stop what happened in the first days of the war, let me remind you, the number of prisoners who surrendered in captivity. first months of the war. these are millions of people , in fact, the army was re-formed in order to defeat the great patriotic war; there were no weapons ; we talked about, uh, put on shoes, equip and train attention, because as if all this implies a whole complex. e things before asking.

well, you probably need to provide something and the question. by the way, here is the performance discipline, which they said, this is also about this, because now it needs to be created, and some kind of immobilization and training and supply system, and so on and so forth, i will add on my own i know that many will not like it if we could not provide helmets for six months and armored regiments hundredths of days. for half a year, rlnr could not provide them with all these people who stood at the front line on any third lines, i answer those who told me about it , i personally checked it, for half a year it could not require some completely different approach. yes, yes, to say that, so as not to give the impression that we are talking simply about the fact that it’s not going to people who are not trained, not mobilized. now very serious ones are being laid. uh, very serious measures are imposed on them, and in case of

non-compliance, they deserve it in general, it does not concern. i want to say that we are talking about responsibility at all levels. and if e people who occupy responsible positions find themselves in wartime conditions of a military operation, the situation is not up to par, because they do not give the necessary orders provide the necessary supplies and so on and so forth. they must also be punished in accordance with the laws of war . this should work . a system should be fully launched that fully enables us to provide this opportunity to provide for others, because you understand, if, relatively speaking, the battalion’s deputy commander does not have something that is needed in order for his equipment to go into battle, then the question is whom to ask the deputy head of the technical department or to the one who did not produce all this? yes, and he says he wanted to add something. well, about the fact that, well, boys, especially there under the popasnaya severodonetsk. e to the helmet, that is, the gillar helmets were taken from the enemy. well, it's simple, well, as it were, because specific yes,

specifically, all this was very much not looting. it was a vital necessity. yes, this is all very important refrigerators. here, what do you understand? this is what you admit, and then the question arises. if, uh, if something is taken, as if on the battlefield, this is ruddering or indestructibility, in principle, the word looting also implies whatever is taken on the battlefield. and this igor is right to the fact that it needs very clear, as it were, explanatory, yes explanatory work, moreover , especially since very often it is necessary to take all this on the battlefield. and those who have been there know that we are talking not only about helmets and bulletproof vests. and forgive me and shoes sometimes and camouflage sometimes and all this needs to be done. all this needs to be delivered in the right quantities to ensure that i remind you, if suddenly someone is not in the know, winter is still ahead, apparently, a winter company. and this it means more here now already we have started the training camp for the

winter we have not previously many divisions with which i at least communicate, and you, as i understand it, communicate already seven winter socks have been purchased and winter socks and that's it. the rest of the winter outfit. so far, volunteers are gathering in many units. this is to the question of how it should work, by the way, at all levels. here putin today conferred with the head of the defense industry enterprise, but i think that this approach will, as it were, be extended to all verticals related to the provision of the army. said the technique ours effectively resists western models of weapons, which means that all stocks of nato arsenals are thrown there and at the end he added that, uh, means our weapons. uh, you need to improve where you need to do it. this is with uh, while it is necessary as quickly as possible. this phrase is important for me as quickly and efficiently as possible. it seems to me that it is fast and efficient. this is not only for defense industry enterprises that produce as many equipment there as missiles , tanks, which is natural, but excuse me,

weapons are also defense industry, uh, uniforms are also experience kakaski bulletproof vests, for which the question is about what you were talking about, for which i personally know from my own example since may, prices have increased by 25-30%, well, because it’s like we have a war here, but here is capitalism and here we kind of need guys, but here we kind of have a profit, no one is from me, then, but on avito they are yes on avito they have reconnaissance pipes in divisions during the day with some fire. and they have a view of avito, and that 's all that is required, if we already introduce the concept of wartime, martial law. and if we we put military personnel in conditions that he will sit down for this and for this he will sit down and you know he will sit down. that's all that is now on avito, they are always there. where it should be. this, too, will have to be stopped, especially since, apparently, it's not clear

when it will end, because the statement that our westerners make. uh, cos they're talking more and more about, uh, they're not just getting ready. what do they expect it to be for a long time? well, like a minute of laughter, anna lena burbock today. eh, as if let slip that it turns out that she is already at war, let's listen to her. we are at war, if your heart is bleeding and you think oh my god, we should be in the air right now to make sure that there is no bombing at such moments, even if the heart is bleeding, you have to keep your cool. well, what happens is unlucky in germany with the minister with the minister of foreign affairs, here is such a cold-blooded anna lena berburg. i think even cold blood. yes, here it is, so to speak, the convolutions of the brain do not really reach. uh, maria vladimirovna reacted very well to this, of course, we must pay tribute to her with humor, that it is interesting with whom anna lena burbock is fighting and,

most importantly, knows the lischelz. and this is, well, because it's really fair. how long has she been fighting and the scholites, she is aware, i must say that, apparently, not only maria vladimirovna zakharova has such fair questions for many nato generals. and when they hear this, well, since after all they are, after all, generals, in some places they have some kind of reflex something to explain this, and then the sequence immediately went. eh, i don’t know the explanation, in connection with this, but it’s clear to everyone that anna lena burbock will blurt out something like that sooner or later. here they are, please. nata is not at war with russia i must state this very clearly, if russia attacked one of our member states it would be quite clear. and we are trying to make it clear to russia with maximum clarity that we will defend every five territories of our ally, then there will be a conflict russia and nato but until this moment nato is not at war with russia but you understand just like kanna lene burbock the question arises. who is she at

war with and does schultz know about the robubalar. uh, the chairman of the nato military committee has a question. and then what are you doing there? that is, if you if you are not at war with russia, then what you are doing, supplying it with such a quantity of weapons, is, as it were, doing, what more are you saying that you will continue to do this and will increase it, because here's more one. uh, western means military, in this way it denotes prospects both in terms of weapons and sros, please, ukraine is unlikely to receive f-16 fighters soon. even if such a decision is made, the planes will be sent only after two or three years. this is due to logistics issues and the need to train ukrainian pilots. the allies are beginning to think about long-term military assistance to ukraine in a war that will not last months. and the years the question arises in your mind. this is the formulation of some accepted

concept or is it still some kind of, well, informational story. we don't know how much it will be, but let's lay it down a little longer. how to perceive it, the answer arises, and they don’t drain ukraine for years - it won’t last. yeah the fact is that the economy is european and american, but if it doesn’t burst at the seams, it experiences such strong overloads that, uh, they either need to declare general mobilization and economic mobilization, or in this state. they won't last long. i mean the habit of western colleagues to the comfort of emissions, which they got hooked on during the covid crisis, but all this unbalanced the economy. excuse me, what are you going to fight with? and if uh. by the way, this is a good one. uh, a sign that our western colleagues have. uh, well, partners

in quotation marks, uh, serious intentions, until they announced this economic mobilization. these words can be taken quite calmly. as soon as they announce it. here it will be really necessary, in your opinion, to be expressed economically expressed in. well, by the way, in some sense. it is now expressed in the withdrawal of russian reserves. uh, in the expropriation of russian companies in the same germany there and so on. no , this is robbery, as long as it is a form of robbery. but if it takes on a systemic character, then, uh, this is such a form of mobilization, of course, it’s not in vain that i’m talking throughout the entire program today about the legal grounds for leaving the legal field. and so on, as soon as um happens. well, as soon as they pass laws regarding the mobilization of the economy to transfer it to a war footing. here it will be possible worry until now. no why, because a significant part of uh hmm energy resources, which are very necessary for all this to move, shoot, and so on. they are out of control. e western countries

that conditionally declared war on someone there are not under control, not under control, but under the control of some countries that can be pressured to pay an agreement. yes, they are already going. there, they partially remove sanctions from venezuela and so on, but the problem is that this control will be wear, what kind of robbery character, because to buy it is nothing to understand, uh-huh. here there are nuances, which actually have a lot, and so far these nuances do not work. i understand that they don't work. in fact, in fact, there are a lot of nuances here, and i think that in another month or two and a half we are all a little bit. well, not just fantasizing, but as if predicting something that is not entirely clear to us, they are talking about how they will survive. this is to the issue of the new really not surviving the issue is the matter of producing uh, the necessary equipment, but the whole point is that we proceed from the understanding that it will be the same europe and the same countries, and how we are used to them in that reality, apparently they are now

very quickly transferring to another and judging by around that judging by the fact that democracy, which began to be leveled off during the pandemic. they now brought completely forgotten. and all these stories with people going out there to rebel, who are freezing there, they have no work. they will screw it up very quickly and simply transfer people to another into another reality. i all this will no longer be important with production. by the way, also, by the way, this question is about what they say about several years and about the fact that the sources of raw materials will either be there or not. and here i am, when i read the german messages, and of course, the guys play cunningly. maybe it really drains ukraine. which means we will give ukraine modern howitzers, but we will give these modern howitzers to it no earlier than 25 years. well, that is another plus three on one side. you can say about how technically they play on the christmas tree, vzlezne not to be offended. i even giggled about this in my telegram channel, and then i thought, but this means that someone in germany

may have an idea that they will have gas for all these three years. they will have gas for which this industry will work, which will produce it, and then we return to the conversation that took place here in this studio, that we also need money in order to fight ourselves, and for this we need something sell. and here comes the question. that is, this chain that we we sell them gas, they continue their industry with this gas, industry, produces howitzers , howitzers, hammer here, and then we invest money to restore all this somehow with this chain, too, probably. e warned against falling into a trap? expectations that tomorrow, the day after tomorrow or in the near future , the west will go to its knees, because, well, as if the conditions of life will change dramatically and the west, accustomed to comfort, will not withstand such stress 2 years of the pandemic have shown, in fact, experience

historical, including the western countries, their participation in the war, by the way, speaking of world war ii, it also says that, if necessary, they can go to some kind of deprivation, and they need this. today. everywhere, everywhere, the necessity of these deprivations is affirmed. in fact, it seems to me that we are in a case where we look forward to today for tomorrow. uh, the fact that the west will be forced to retreat will be forced, as it was said, to surrender ukraine and merge ukraine, then we thereby, as it were, dampen ourselves from the point of view. you were fast the effectiveness of our own actions we have heard. unfortunately, several times that everything is going according to plan, and we are slowly sparing, how would everyone and everyone carry out this operation, in

my opinion. this is a completely wrong strategic setting, because, as one great commander said, strategy is the art of using space and time ; actions ended in such a result that ukraine itself and the west were forced to go, at least to freeze the formation of hostilities, so that we would reach such lines from which we would be calm about the houses in donetsk and lugansk, when we reach such frontiers as quickly as possible and everyone is interested in it as soon as possible and what is happening now, including before our eyes, we are waiting for these announcements. it seems to me that it is directed precisely to this, and not to hoping that winter will come. they will be cold in winter, and it will be more convenient for us to

fight in winter. listen, the sooner. we will come to a result, the better for us and for everyone , including for ukraine, it is fair. a. by the way, they listen, of course, and look, including at e, the decisiveness of our statements, especially actions. here is biden, he just said that it’s not the way i am, that someone was waiting for this step from him, he said that he did not intend to take the initiative to exclude russia from the un security council, that is, on the one hand, on the one hand. this is a conversation about that now does not intend to, but on the other hand. this is a throw-in into the public space, a conversation there guys, but in general, we have this card up our sleeve. this is also to talk about the fact that there will be a lot. it depends on how we hold on, because as soon as they have an idea that we are somehow either not holding on, or not really somewhere, so to speak, we are in a hurry. well, god knows that they still would not be in a hurry, then we, in fact, subscribe to the desire to continue this story for years. it's really

desire exists, what a gift to me for our enemies, that if this lasts for years, they will talk about us all this time, how the empires of evil will surround us with sanctions to create a different thing for a man, that i, uh, i don’t know everything and don’t i get it, uh, and i don't know how, but i know for sure that this can't go on for years. i don’t know why, more precisely, i can’t say right here , that’s why, therefore, and therefore, well, just try to think for years, this cannot go on, cannot and should not, cannot and should not. actually, there are two more events today, oh, that i can't help mentioning. unfortunately, which are connected with the need for this public

mobilization of mobilization. including each of us a correct understanding of what is happening and how to treat it, unfortunately, today sergey passed away, i knew him, talked to him, got to know him. zakhar prilepin at a memorial event. ah, the anniversary of the death of alexander zakharchenko he often visited the donbass, he was very sick of it, he was very worried about it and now he died, and also in the car that they were going to transfer there, the kingdom of heaven to him is a vivid example. togo, as an artist, an actor, an artist, a director must relate and empathize with his army with his people in his country. another such example. this is also an event, though twenty years ago, but today sergei bodrov jr. died,

who left us words that are very important for our mental health of the whole society. them. one should not forget that the man was 30 years old, but he understood what many do not understand today. let's let's listen. during the war, one should never speak ill of one's own, even if they are wrong. how would even there, if your side is not right in time of war, you do not have to speak, and not bad. i think it's very simple, the principle, it's very old , very primitive, but it's true. uh, when nothing threatens, when the war is over, then, yes, then you can say, this was not so, and it was not so, and let's try that in the future this was not. let's try to make sure this doesn't happen . here is a young man who did not serve in the army. he understood everything perfectly and to us to understand many

things. we'll have to go back, we'll have to realize some new reality. today we are waiting for the speech of the president of the minister of defense. the information channel on the first continues to broadcast the program. time will tell, we are working live, the artistic director of the volkov theater in yaroslavl, wonderful actors. magnificent man sergei started up today died in an accident. i know that i was a great patriot of my country to the audience of our program. and it is known that this morning he left yaroslavl to moscow in a car with humanitarian aid. yesterday he recorded a video on this car, which is literally yesterday's video that was sent to me by his close friends, which he sent to them, he tells about the collection of humanitarian aid to help the residents of donbass to our guys, and this car, along with thermal underwear and other

necessary things. should have been passed in moscow to those who go further to the donbass, let's listen to excerpts from this video. everything works fine here. we are here armored rubber, which there is rubber. everything tomorrow we go to igor tomorrow we go to igor golonov, we camouflage him, we apply camouflage and 21. we give his unit and everything to reconnoiter everything of the battalion commander god will be. such a volume of thermal underwear, which

we also send to the donbass well, i think that we will not fit an armored car, therefore, we will have to use separate vehicles. he forced to place the last video of sergei puskepalis, which we showed you show that he was a true patriot of his country, a big man. let's remember him like this, the kingdom of heaven, of course, condolences to all relatives. vysu continues shelling since yesterday evening, strikes are inflicted on donetsk and zaporozhye. two people died and three were seriously injured. today, ukrainian troops fired nine shells, and near donetsk and along makiivka, trimmer residents were injured, and one woman, unfortunately, died . gas pipelines and power lines were damaged. over the past week, more than 100 shells have been fired at the city, and the

head of the administration of the city of makeyevka and vladislav are now in direct contact with us. yurievich goncharov let's find out the details in it. what's going on in makeevka vladislav yuryevich hello ruslan good afternoon, good afternoon studio. yes, the attack on our city continues today, and five districts of our city are being fired, mainly with nato weapons. this is 155 caliber, which flies to civilians in peaceful homes. there is destruction. are you destruction? well , now we are trying to somehow get out of this situation. well, you know, i'll tell you, so lately u our fire departments are also under attack, so literally the day before yesterday, our fire department was subjected to fire, the heroism of our soldiers, who are under fire to save civilians, and they directly aim. as far as i know, the units where the fire trucks and the personnel are stationed

and trying to destroy them in this way continue their terrorist activities . about the upcoming referendum. now they are already discussing specific dates, and understanding that, probably, it is too early to comment on the level of the head of the city administration, but as a citizen of the donetsk people's republic, as a resident of makeevka, what can you say on this topic? well, i want to tell you that today in social networks this discussion is taking place on a massive scale. that is, we are all ready. we are ready for them by the dates that will mark our i will say our people are already tired. they already want the referendum to pass quickly. we entered as citizens of the russian federation and as subjects of the russian federation therefore, we are all looking forward to this day, everyone is waiting for this moment, therefore, i think that this moment will come in the near future, and we will be very, very happy, therefore, as i understand it, there

are no results of the referendum, there are no doubts . believe me. we have all been waiting for this for a long time. we have been waiting for this for 8 years, especially now what is happening on our territory. you know, i’ll tell the people, in general, they’ve risen up, and they seem to support a lot and quickly want us to become full-fledged citizens of the russian federation very soon lifesafevich. thank you very much for the inclusion. soon we will soon be citizens of one large country, and we are moving to the western direction of the donetsk people's republic with us on a direct line. e, deputy battalion commander for educational work, call sign political officer. hello to you word what is going on in your direction. hello currently, fierce fighting continues after the width of the front, let's say the situation at all or not, where we participate is not exactly the same somewhere our

troops are advancing somewhere blocking the enemy me positional warfare in particular our unit. now they are directly engaged in blocking the enemy, while traditional battles are quite tough using a large amount of artillery, using a huge amount of unmanned aerial vehicles. moreover, on both sides, from the side of the enemy , uavs are actively used not only for reconnaissance, but also let's say bomber uavs , which are attached to improvised explosive devices, which are attached to a-and miles of a nato model. uh, nevertheless. we are doing everything to suppress the enemy. we are doing everything to ensure that all successful counter-barites fire and our task on this sector of the front is that we certainly cannot pay and ask you about the referendum issue, which is now being discussed almost everywhere, and as soon as i raise the topic on everyone’s face, a smile appears. like you, including. and how

will this affect you in hostilities, what are you waiting for after the republic of kherson region, zaporozhye region became on the territory of the russian federation in 2014 and in 2014, people took up arms and became it was for the return of the escono russian lands to their historical homeland so that the russian people of donbass reunited with the people of russia we were waiting for this, we fought. for this we deserve. i am sure that everything will pass, because i do not doubt it for a second. i think that all residents of donbass are confident in the results of the referendum. thank you for your work, fighters, a huge hello, from all of us, we all stand together as a united front against of nazism, and the deputy battalion commander for educational work with the call sign political officer was in direct contact with us. these are life-affirming news, despite the difficult situation on the fronts, in the meantime, friends. the ministry of defense

showed footage of the work of mortars of the calculations of the first army corps of the donetsk people's republic with the fire of 120 mm mortars. we hit the position of the ukrainian militants and light vehicles. technicians, but the hope hmm that the west will finally see the truth, it still appears, because we are constantly talking about the fact that they have deaf-blind, completely german deputies there. uh, they decided that they would still go to russia and the eastern part of donbass to see everything with their own eyes. we hope to see and their eyesight will be opened. well, at least they have a positive mood in ukraine, of course, they are extremely dissatisfied with this decision of the german deputies. and because there they are used to seeing everything not with their own eyes, but as they say to interpret, the former ambassador of ukraine to germany, melnyk, threatened the deputies of the bundestag criminal liability. here's a little bit. e, swung at it, and andrei viktorovich well, what

can you wish to a miller? i know that you do n’t go into the pocket of a good miller for a word, yes, lacquered roughly and feet first, to be honest, right away you go right away, yes, what’s more, you wouldn’t even touch your hand it’s not about that, somehow it’s a pity for the germans, but they only have a lazy one that doesn't bark yet. some ukrainian scumbag there is trying to tell what the parliament should do, the poles presenting them throws one and a half trillion. their minister foreign affairs, you practically admit that they are entering into with russia let's then say that it's time to hang the flag of the 150 rifle division at 300. they behave not like that. and we will strive for this. joyfully confident but i can say literally the following today. germany is generally not necessarily a position. in fact, her so-called allies are

developing a text for a war with russia, and unfortunately. then the war is the political leadership that is in germany today put your tanks ukrainians. why wouldn't he put his own here? yes, because to whom it was a joy to see a hot one, let the leopards say it better. nowhere else let the germans die there, because if you put a leopard, it perfectly understands that infrastructure must be supplied with them. whoever does not understand this subdivision repairs, it is definitely not a ukrainian to exclude it from their own representatives of the factories of all the rest, because the car is quite difficult, it is not bad. today i think that a significant

event has happened, of course, this is also the decision on the referendum, which is. i have already expressed in relation. we are in number were published on our channels. and we adopted the law to tighten responsibility, about which we have always and everywhere said that there is a lack of elementary responsibility, and at all levels, not only for the military, but here within the country for the fulfillment of the tasks that stand such. what is the period? can you explain what specific decisions were made in this tightening plan and why it is important now and what you expect from the decision on the referendum, how much this will affect the special military operation and we will simply analyze it. let's referendum first the main thing is that's why the decision on the referendum was made? and because then the war will not go on the territory of donetsk-luhansk on the territory of

russia. i think we should wait for a statement from our top leadership on further actions in the near future, because this is a completely different topic. you are well aware that the outcome of the referendum is a foregone conclusion not because you would like, because people want to. they are already saying, you have been sitting and waiting for this for 8 years, you have been waiting, quite simply. it will be a completely different topic. the second let's say that after leaving the kharkiv region, people began to have doubts. and they won’t hand us over if this territory of russia is definitely not handed over to anyone there . even if there are some mistakes somewhere. i assure you. it’s not just that everything will be yours tightly won back to the bone. the second moment is restoration, that is, the infrastructure that is in these territories, because people want to live the same way as in russia. if you were in kherson, you will understand that you rolled back somewhere around 30 back. this is literally

time, and plus the destruction that was volnovahi hit other settlements. well , if it happened from the outside, we will have nowhere to help, despite the fact that the population in the donbass of the zaporozhye kherson region is very large. very large now in mariupol, in the same place, more than 200 thousand people have returned back , and today we need to start production, because people need to live on something and need to work, it’s clear that if we don’t take azov to get up there, then at least he should start ilyich’s plant and give jobs, because for this the number in the city is now about no more than 8,000 jobs. and this is about nothing, that is, these moments, they will immediately shine differently after the referral, of course, the territory of russia suggests that our government should immediately come there , in theory it should be there, in my opinion, if the prime minister is to restore our territories after the war, and already a completely different topic, this will all

be planned for the budget for the year 23, which we will now consider taking into account those territories that have returned to us. let's ask the guys right away, we have victor el kuhali special correspondent of the union tv channel victor hello well, here we are discussing the question, what will happen after the referendum, because, in principle, nobody doubts the results of the referendum. your personal feelings. your personal expectations have been waiting for this for 8 years. and now, it looks like it 's very, very close. and then about the situation in the city. yes, good afternoon, studio, indeed. now there is some kind of feeling in the air that everything has finally taken its course. yes, truth 8 years of waiting for this 8 years of hoping. here is finally the feeling that we are returning home. it's not just waiting 8 years. no, this wait has been much longer and now the truth is here. well, almost every person. i see a smile on his face, despite the fact that even today we counted

about 20 arrivals in the capital of the republic, nevertheless. this feeling of an impending miracle, but inspires people. is it a miracle, is this what you did with your own hands in donetsk, lugansk, mariupol? i would not call it a miracle, it is a natural result of what exactly you are waiting for like feelings. will the ukrainian army, if it is possible to call it that, continue shelling the donbass after it becomes russian territory ? that now no one doubted that russia would never leave donbass russia donbass is already an integral part. no one argues with this, no, but now when it will be all official. they are just words. yes, this is the feeling big broad back to their big motherland. and this is a misunderstanding, by the way, in the eyes of

ukrainian prisoners. and why are they here ? as a matter of fact, it seems to me that it will become much more understandable for them, or something, in terms of the fact that they will understand that this is not just donbass yes, which is 8 years old, it was possible to kick people with their feet, yes, and this is already part of a large countries to be reckoned with the game, in your opinion, and people in the rest of ukraine are not yet freed. after accepting this decisions can be encouraged by this and begin to counter active. zelensky's regimes over these 8 years, we have repeatedly communicated with those people who remained on the territory of ukraine, uh, what's the problem? they are afraid, they are really afraid of what is happening, because rumors about the hut, phrases and stories about how they come to your house, take your relatives, choose them, take them to the basement and literally torture them, but in fact, these are not jokes. these are not tales. campfire. this is a harsh reality. they are afraid to express their position. and

need understanding. yes, that they will take to the streets not just so that they will condemn zelensky not just so that this will not remain a phrase. and there is no faith in the future, which on paper will only end with a line in some story, if they have a clear understanding that russia is here russia is here forever. i think, at least in vladimir alexandrovich, he will be very surprised at what is happening in his native country. is it in his lineage? thank you very much, something tells me that i’m not quite expecting this, judging by where his wife is children live. now it’s definitely not in ukraine that viktor or kukhali with us on a direct line from donetsk, we are transferred immediately and to lugansk vitaly viktorovich kiselyov, assistant to the minister of internal affairs is on a direct line with us. and the lugansk people's republic vitaly viktorovich we are waiting for the lugansk people's republic to go home soon. you know, today i want to discuss the situation on the fronts and the fact that the shelling of the donetsk and lugansk people's republics continues, but all this comes through the prism of the fact that a big event will take place soon. we are all

we are waiting for this and your investigation, which you have been conducting for 8 years about the crimes of the ukrainian nazis. i really hope that they will be investigated together with our law enforcement agencies and they will be punished, because over the years of your work you have accumulated a huge amount of evidence of the crimes of the kiev regime. how is your mood? today, when are we waiting for the big event? well, there are several events ahead of me on the eve of the referendum, it's my birthday, so for me it's doubly nice number will start a referendum unconditionally. i, more than anyone else, would like it to happen in 2014. well, unfortunately, that's how the political situation was invested. and thank god that we have lived all these 8 years. we have lived all these 8 years in a very difficult and difficult situation and we get it, you know, this is not a reward. it's probably a treasure. uh, the russian

world of the entire russian people that we are becoming part of russia is very important. this is very important for our future generations , today's generation, which since 2014 are such , uh, heroic guys who, uh, have become at the origins russian spring, which has apples as one of the leaders - this is a russian spring for us doubly. and maybe in the country it is very nice that we have waited for this moment happy moment. and i think we will celebrate this small grandiose victory by the fact that after all we will become a truly united family and by and large in the donbass today the issue of our entire russia is being resolved, the unity of our entire russia from the donbass, but be that as it may, we still do not we can not say today that unfortunately they are shelling our cities and towns are coming. uh, exactly where did the shelling of the french artillery mounts come from? yesterday, on flint e, they beat

in the morning at lunchtime. in the evening, more than thirty shells were fired. and what do you think, where did these shells fly to? of course, these shells flew to residential buildings, uh, to residential areas, to shops, to the supply infrastructure. and unfortunately. ah, a big tragedy. it happened yesterday evening. e as a result of artillery shelling of the apu in the village of krasnorechensk, this is the kremensky district of peaceful residents among them are three children who literally did not live a few days in order to also become witnesses of this grandiose event. well, war is war. doesn't spare anyone. and those ghouls, those creatures that today e like uh, we say, there is an escalation of the conflict there is terrorism. no, this is genocide, the genocide of an entire nation against a million people on the territory of donbass. well , they correctly noted that the investigation is underway. we have been conducting for 8 years and there are many more and

many investigations ahead, which will be in the near future. while my telegram channel is about to be replenished with those criminals who committed a crime , they commit crimes in the kharkiv direction in the zaporozhye direction in the kherson direction, we will all see this. we will show their faces, we will show their addresses, their telephone numbers, where ordinary citizens can call and ask. and how are you freak doing there in ukraine how do your children live in western ukraine or whom you have already taken abroad. and how they watch how you kill the children of donbass. this, probably, will be the most it is fair that their children, their wives, see the faces of these murderers and the whole world sees and nevertheless stands on our side and looks, yes, to reality. it is. well, in addition to these murders of mercenaries who are on the territory of ukraine, there are also e. so to speak, nato e already e,

directly the officers directly the generals who are in charge of all these operations. it's no longer a secret. it's not a secret, because it's coming soon. we will also publish this, because the people themselves will confirm the location of e full-time officers of the nato bloc or america thank you for your work, but we are all, of course, waiting for their faces not only in telegram channels, but also in the dock and also the wallet was in direct contact with us from lugansk yes, but with the upcoming happy birthday dear with the upcoming one, while we will congratulate the big holiday for all kirova lvovna until official statements. our president was not there on this matter, but they have already spoken in the state duma and, uh, the heads of the republics are making a statement, uh, the public chamber and republics because of the zaporozhye region, quietly and the kherson region spoke out. we are waiting for vladimir putin's statement. do you think he will be able

to interpret this somehow differently? how are we all waiting? i think the answers are obvious too. it seems to me that just the president should already put the final point. here is such a final code, which actually will be, and the logical conclusion of a really very long journey. and now, when i was listening to these inclusions, i caught myself thinking that people who receive citizenship by birth, they perceive it absolutely. as a given, that is, as some kind of background component, as far as patriotism is concerned, but again it depends very much. here is education. this is the family you grew up in. uh, what did they teach you at school? that is, in general, this is also the case, but someone brings up history, someone does not have patriotism, but for me, the people of donbass are not just potential citizens of the russian federation, they are honorary citizens of the russian federation, because this is such an oath that already brought over the years. uh, our country is now almost common that, of course, it is

uh for all of us. i think this is a great example of both individual and collective courage in general. therefore, i think that this is for us. first of all, such a moral and ethical acquisition is huge, because, of course, one can argue for a long time that this is all an echo of the collapse of the soviet union, and so on and so forth, but in fact not only, because the latest history. it is no longer bound by the soviet union. and really with a new fresh events and what side of uh ukraine opened, at least a certain part of it, otherwise what was the reaction, how difficult and painful, but all this happened. well, this, of course, has nothing to do with the soviet past, this is the present that is being written right now and we all really, and now i think we will be witnesses, yes of course, we all think we are all witnesses of a colossal historical event, which, of course, will write referendums in the textbook, knowing that they don't like it, like a political scientist,

like an international forecaster. well, what do you think, in will our president respond today to the desperation of the inhabitants? yes, a few luhansk zaporozhye region. the stikhirson region is expecting this today, but i think that this is expected in the near future, because well, of course, there are always some, maybe unforeseen circumstances. but i think he will soon . in general, prayer is this request, and you are verbal non-verbal. she will certainly hear today. today, of course. you know it's 30 seconds. this is our president, god mine, i'm sure we'll verify, of course. well, what friends are waiting for today, as they think. many of our experts are political scientists. it's just that the guests are friends of our programs and the dates of the referendum are already known, which are being discussed by the heads of the luhansk donetsk people's republics . anatoly kuzichev continues on channel one.

olesya loseva will show this time so the public chambers of the dpr and lpr. yesterday we turned to the heads of the republics denis pushilin and leonid pasechnik with a request to hold a referendum on joining the russian federation in the dpr and lpr for holding the referendum, everything is ready, including through the cec in the lc. the process of preparing for the referendum has already been launched, the mechanisms and the procedure itself are being worked out. they plan to invite them to a referendum observers from impartially related to the republics of the countries of zaporozhye region unanimously vote for a referendum on reunification with russia the authorities of the kherson region also decided on a referendum and here is the news of the last hour. head of the lpr. leonid pasechnik signed the law on the referendum on joining the russian federation officials reported that the referendum would be held from september 23 to september 7. today, the council of the people's council of the donetsk people's republic adopted a law on

holding a referendum on the issue of joining russia, the document states that all minor citizens of the dpr, including those who are outside of its territory, he asked putin to consider the issue of walking the dpr, the composition of russia in the event of a positive decision of the inhabitants in a referendum, and this is what appeal he published in his telegram channel. dear vladimir vladimirovich, i ask you, as soon as possible in case of a positive decision following the referendum? in what we have no doubt to consider the issue of the entry of the donetsk people's republic into the russian federation, the long-suffering people of donbass would deserve a part of the great country, which they have always considered their homeland. this event will be the restoration of historical justice, the onset of which millions of russian people crave, on the right, of course, to take part in all adult citizens can vote in the referendum.

dnr well, let's listen to what he said at a meeting with deputies. the head of the dpr was not intimidated. donbass is returning home. a true decision that meets the hopes and aspirations of our people for unity. with great russia, i ask the deputies to support its adoption. referendum dates from september 23 to september 27 we may have, well, i don’t generalize here either, but in

moscow there may be a feeling that this is, uh, some sort of political maneuvers, but for them i look at these uh, well, good. i was there talking to these people. but these people who are clapping were pushing, but they heard yes for about 15 seconds to me, when he said, donbass is returning home for them, these are not maneuvers, for them this is life. uh, for them it is justice that the word homeland was restored for them. this is not an empty phrase. we're a little here somehow, so to speak, well, a little bit lost the taste. this one. i repeat the whole present speech, not about the whole day in the whole country, but at least in the big cities. it seems to me in many ways. it true, it is unfortunately fair this matter of life - it is a matter of survival absolutely, that is, years for them is easy. well, this is the most important real milestone in life for us , this is also a historical moment. however, let's e let's now try to understand, that is, from the point of view of historical justice there. not only historical, there and current, that's all, but that's inevitable and that's simple. well, it's impossible to

discuss, even this is stupid, but about the reaction to this to these decisions. it seems to me i wonder how it will be met. what are the consequences of these decisions, dmitry ivanovich, of course. today we are going through a rather serious fork in the road between a special military operation and big uh, big big game. eh, so to speak e life. or maybe a war. hmm, that’s why we must be well aware of all this, so to speak, and these changes that may occur may occur in connection with the bills that are submitted today to the state duma a in connection with e. those decisions that our political and military leadership may have to make. in

general, this is a serious choice, but of course, in a referendum, uh, people will vote. residents will vote. e donetsk luhansk people's republics of the two regions, but the political consequences and military, apparently, the consequences for e russia will be completely e, noticeable and strong here. and what kind of it is possible to decipher them at least a little bit of your interpretation ? the fact that mobilization can be declared, because, uh, means, uh, obviously. well beyond that i'm just guessing maybe war has been declared underlined, these are not my assumptions, but based on the fact that bills have been introduced, if they are introduced, then , of course, no one denies the likelihood of such a development of events. naturally, in conditions

however, it is not worth putting on paint among themselves projects, the important point is that between a referendum and the war full-scale military operations in which they will participate. there the citizens of russia means mobilized equality. no. it's just a possibility that after that the first, the second, of course, tough. eh, there will be a reaction. and both ukraine and western countries. i don't rule it out. i do not rule out the introduction of some new sanctions package. although everything seems to have been exhausted, yes, but there is a concept here, taking into account the fact that the first situation is changing, which means, uh, taking this into account, these very uh, which means, uh, sanctions decisions, yes

, expedient, even if viktor orban is already out. yes , as they say, the eye of europe is still open, but it says that 11,000 sanctions did not work, that you even want him, which means that hungary is also specially shut up in some way. in general , all sorts of people there are trying to fall behind on the cheeks. well, it’s clear that sanctions don’t work, by and large, the sanctions didn’t work, and i think a new sanctions package, if it is introduced. by and large, in the historical sense and scale, of course, it will not work, but still there will be some kind of and some kind of uh influence. i think that now is really the last moment for the west and for the ukrainian elite to understand that it is very easy to cross the line for which a will begin hmm well, as vladimir putin once said, by and large we have not started yet. a big one might start. and

that means big serious actions on the part of uh russia and, uh, understand this. and the western elite and the ukrainian elite should become much more capable of contracting, in my opinion, if they understand the responsibility for, you know, for the security of europe and, in a broad sense, for the fate of the world . no, this is understandable. they actually consider themselves the world, respectively, for their own destiny. they are so to say the euro, like, how to fight is another matter, what is this, uh, and alice to the question. he, uh, fair, he gives out, as it were, this is your idea of ​​\u200b\u200bours, so to speak, e there opponents, as about people they probably are people rational capitalists, all the more and so on, but in this case, when the day before in general, so to speak . the very fact of the existence of the rational. here the rational approach worked, did not work, and so on. it recedes, of course, to the second, if to say to the third plan, the rational approach, the

rational interpretation of the rational, so to speak. approaches all of them are no more, as they say, existential threats. you can not. eh, so to speak with the reformer to solve everything else. that is, there were many rational considerations that made the elite and the ussr and the united states stop there, there was a rational consideration. uh, does that mean life or death? yes, there is a challenge hive. it's that choice, of course, it's quite obvious, you know? if he gets up like that, then, of course, yes, then this is rational. and if there is some kind of, as it seems to them, some other fan, so to speak, a variational deck of choices. is there such. well, such an illusion, in fact, probably not. by the way, this is not a different format, including because they remembered how they survived the war one way or another. and this was actually a very important factor. please see. didn't tell him to implement. but the fact that they will accept our decision without enthusiasm,

well, or the decision of donetsk lugansk zaporizhzhya , joining russia, will enter, how interesting the pigs are. well, further that they didn’t attack us, honestly andrey wait, but tell me, answer my question. here is the general consensus that in terms of sanctions, they have practically exhausted their possibilities. here is the first one now. here's what happens. nothing directly prevents us from moving forward as part of the special operation. but after all, this is the territory of the russian federation. this means that on the territory of donetsk luhansk zaporozhye , kherson, now in the nikolaev region , a contractor operation regime will be introduced. we have all this spelled out in the law as what happens so assumes. here, based on the trp, well, here, most likely in the supply of the last energy resources through all these pipelines that run there in ukraine. they will end, in principle, in nature. obviously they will. kohl regime was outlined. here, on

the issue of mobilization, we can say maybe partial, but, most likely, creating conditions for the recruitment of volunteers, then the necessary number that we will need in order to solve those tasks within the roof of circumstances, nothing prevents within the framework of a special operation about this already said to conduct a strategic operation to defeat a critically important object. and these are objects. energy infrastructure there are water facilities, of course, we don’t even talk about bridges, everything else. you just imagine for a moment that within a week the whole of ukraine well, most likely faster, it will simply be without electricity. and what will happen in 10 days. after that, i assure you that nothing will ride. the country will become fully known position, as in the garden. the movement of troops will be extremely difficult, because flows of refugees will go along the roads and routes to the west. and any delivery of something will

extremely collaborative. this must be done, because it is not necessary to speak about it in the next moment, which is quite serious. after all, the point is ukraine ukraine but when we understand that now there is a war on the territory of russia, chimixes, but whose shells are nato. let's be friends. we, probably, will begin to figure out what to do with it, and the reason lies not in this poor germany, which is already lazy. and over there , across the ocean, well, as an advanced outpost our favorite british isles, which would be quite in able to be so unobtrusive, without using the strategic forces of nuclear deterrence, turn a lifeless desert, and then all the talk about the fifth article. well, maybe, but whom to protect when there is nothing to protect? it is possible when

there is something and when there is nothing to protect anywhere. i'm told you have an extremist outlook. i have a non-extremist view proud and praised with the fact that in the twelfth year we are napoleon from here sure. then hitler was also kicked out. but unfortunately, this infection has come again. if until the end not to finish, that is, you once didn’t finish something , however, i really would not like my great-grandchildren to meet someone on our territory again, again the ships drove confidently with a club. for hours, the most important global moments are that in order to be more beautiful, no one came up when they say that we are an aggressive side, when we didn’t claim anything from anyone at all. we only asked from us stay away from us. and leave this behind. it did not work out today, when the mask was thrown off to the fullest, it is clear that it is necessary to decolonize russia there at a running start, nor to colonize the world. the main

colonizer is the united states of america and this is not a secret. that's all you don't need. no need to rack your brains, so we inevitably decided the referendum. i think that we will not have to wait a long time for statements, including our supreme leader, all this will be done. and then we will see who the development of events, which i think will lead us in any case to our victory clear, once again with whom we are dealing now. let's listen to the appeal, and to a ukrainian, but to all russians, what awaits you and me, what fate has been prepared for all of us by the west and ukraine, and i 'll tell you. you are a russian who does not approve of putin’s policy if our guys, well, our image on the ukrainian guys from the right sector are those who are the remnants of the underachievers of azov, if they come

to you in russia, god forbid, they enter your cities and villages. they will not ask who was for putin who is against they will kill everyone i dare your to believe, if god forbid in some fantastic way. god forbid that this ukraine won, which now defeated russia, you don’t understand that this will not be the end of putin’s power. this will be your end, because when the guys from the bandera region come to you, but i use this word, because there is no way without it. if bandera even come to save you from putin, then you. everyone understood. yes? what do we need if we need to translate? well , you know what, uh, came to mind. here, pay attention. i don't know how he historical precedent and example that some people some people fought, fought, died for so long, not to leave from some territory, to enter, to enter, to return, to to restore, according to

their ideas, historical justice igor well, tell me, after all, i am like that, really, i don’t remember such a thing in history for 8 years, people are actually fighting at the same time to reunite. my opinion, it was expressed in one sentence in the rodina magazine, which was devoted to a special issue of historical issues the territory that today is called ukraine because it was part of the russian empire. and when even i was judged, i kept talking. show me the map of the seventeenth year. i'll try to find ukraine there. well, it's such a little bit. well, in court, yes, what is interesting, yes, they were in this. well, they were silent on this issue, and there one phrase was donbass - this is the heart of russia. why was it given in such a wording, because the heart is where it hurts. the russian always has a soul, yes, that is, where it hurts, here we always have a heart associated with the soul and the inhabitants of donbass that's

right, uh, i'm not going to consider legal issues. i’m just looking at who, how it really was, and you and i were talking about this topic here, that these people, well, the heart of russia thank you very much, i just took it, thank you and damn it overflows. those events are overwhelming, because we are the people of donbass who went through torture, who went through the trenches all these 8 years. many did not reach their settlements, just as the waterman did not reach his konstantinovka. excuse me. hard, but i am tears of joy, yes, in fact, from what is happening now. yes, we all took small steps towards this for 8 years, our people under shelling all these months cut roses in

donetsk, which is the capital, museums preserved the growth, preserved the botanical garden, preserved everything so that it would be the property of real russia, our common motherland and these people every one of them, from the baby who was born today and all these 9 months went with his mother under shelling to the most adult man women who live in donbass are russian people, and they have proved their right to live in our single great motherland. excuse me for wanting to draw attention to the map. donbass service russia but the arteries go to many russian cities, there is moscow, vladimir astrakhan , there is there, odessa is a shitomer, kiev, so that they don’t forget what it is about, that is, there is no need

to dive into this context of 2022, which was for us drawn in 1991 for many, it has become familiar to many of us, it has become imposed and also familiar, but this is not so. and i would like more back a little to your rhetorical question, what will be the reaction, this is not rhetorical specifically. here's an interesting question. and here's the thought that came to mind, huh? very putin-like, i apologize for the excessive loyal feelings, but very putin-like, that is, there was a strategic pause, when everyone had already celebrated the victory over russia, everyone just ran out of drool. so they spat. here , in his joy, that the russians were defeated here, and here we defeated them and the russians are already ready for negotiations and electricity zaporozhye npp went. well, all the same, here, here, put the squeeze on. here's a bit of

hello, we've arrived. uh-huh how are you coughing, my friends now? as the russian documents were signed, the capitulation was signed. this is not a capitulation, it is different. actually, it’s like what they were supposed to always deal with when they talked about russia about russians, but for some inexplicable reason, people themselves believed in propaganda, which, in theory, they invented in order to, i don’t know , process their audience to normalize it happens so often. this is such a professional deformation that happens when you start to believe in what you say, but these are politicians. it's not even journalists. it ’s the politicians who believed in the lies that they repeatedly told me the truth. it’s insanely interesting what zelensky’s inner circle feels there, which is practically, by whom the death sentence is actually signed. this is how they perceive what happened

today, in fact, means that a green mark was anointed on his forehead. and he's like a man of russian culture, well historical culture perfectly understands what is at stake. in what context? everything here is spinning. what is his future fate. he also performed before the cannes festival yesterday. yes, i liked it. moreover, as a former actor, of course, he liked one click. and you understand that in general, it is not clear. how many of you are left. listen, and tomorrow, on the twenty-first, zelensky should actually speak through a video message. yes, i think that is the calculation too. i think this is also and this context , of course, was also meant, that is, here there are a lot of such nuances that, well, only a very sophisticated mind could put into one whole into one picture and give out something like from what people, really. here they don’t have and can’t say a word, well, me