on the program, i looked at how the conflict in ukraine is covered in the united states, especially by leading american publications such as new york's the washington post, and i found one very interesting thing. that for the first time in many months news with ukraine is not at the forefront? do you know why intermediates in the first place, because , of course, and the economy. well, as you just said, dmitry, because uh, because uh, there is a feeling. what, in general, the current situation suits the united states and when it it suits when the americans do not die and when the economic price, and the help to kiev for america is large, but for america, at least for a certain number of months, it is feasible

this is not considered the main news of the day, but here 's the thing, and -e of the united states . they, as we just said, they play several. uh, different scheme. this situation does not suit them, because they are hitting something on their territories, because their infrastructure is being destroyed, and what they want to do, in order to somehow equalize the stakes, jerky movements? well, for example, like strikes on russian territory. well, well, for example, like the assassination attempt, uh, on daria dugin, uh, in moscow, well, and finally, the raid on the crimean bridge in response to russia , of course, performs actions that it has not done before, such as, for example, massive bombing strikes rocket strikes on the territory of ukraine, russia has not

done this before, and ukraine is actually starting a new round of escalation. and that's why, it seems to me, those people in the administration, to whom it seems that, well, let's get through the winter calmly and nato has great resources in the united states. and in general, it's not so much for us. costs. it seems to me that these people are playing with fire and one more thing. why is there no such dramatic news in the american press and dmitry, being in moscow, you know better than me, but because the ukrainian offensive was interrupted. it's interrupted, how it's interrupted. uh, what the ukrainians are, uh, the senior comrades in washington were brilliant, they are thinking, of course, i don’t know, but i know that it’s completely recently they said that the ukrainian offensive

in the north and in the south of ukraine would develop at a rapid pace. this did not happen to the russians. one way or another, we managed to bring this situation under control. and this, uh, so far, the vast majority of reinforcements to the front have not arrived at the front, and therefore. of course when you talk, let's say about the military. i don't want to say that they are afraid, what they are experiencing, but they are starting to think more and more that in general there can be a small russian offensive. and then what the united states to do, and therefore interest in diplomatic dialogue, it does not dominate in american politics, but it is serious and real and it is becoming more and more relevant, dmitry. i think that this interest will return. and when the

fundamental situation at the front changes radically to an even greater extent towards russia, just after the topic of the bilized, who are now undergoing e, training, will go to the front and a new phase will begin. e special operations anyway, the united states at the same time as the hybrid war against russia stepping up confrontation with china here these days begins yesterday. the twentieth congress of the communist party of china is taking place - this is one of the most important events in the life of the people's republic of china proper. landmarks and priorities for the next 5 years are indicated. based on the results of the congress, the congress itself elects a new composition of the central committee and the communist party of china . eh, the politburo and the poliro standing committee, that is, will determine the new leadership of china on e, the next 5 years, and. here right before this convention, it seems to me the

united states gave china at least two unpleasant gifts, and, first, they adopted a new national security strategy. that's not much until not after the congress, right before the congress , a new national security strategy, where china was proclaimed a strategic adversary, and then the only country that also has material resources. and the political will to change the international order not in favor of the united states and secondly, again, directly before the convention, and the united states imposed the most severe sanctions uh, uh, chip exports uh, v. e. china, that is, they intensified the technological war and blacklisted about 30 leading chinese high-tech companies, and here is sergey gennadievich. what do you think based on the results of the congress, and in the chinese leadership, and with this, the

stump, apparently, will remain for the third term there will still be those who hope for, e, normalization of relations with the united states or china will continue to carry out, and in relation to the united states more and more tough policy and actually accept the confrontation that is now imposed on him by washington. well, it is quite obvious that the congress is in itself. this is a systemic event that has both domestic chinese and international global significance. if you are right, there is a geopolitical aspect of a very important dimension of the united states of china is ideologically. there are personnel really re-election updates, but the most important thing is, of course. eh, the chinese-american track, and, are you right that the thesis is hegemonism? well, constantly mentioned in xi jinping's report. though he didn’t directly name it, but everyone understood what and who it was about, i’ll just quote what cdp said china

firmly opposes all forms of hegemonism of the cold war mentality, interference in the internal affairs of other countries and double standards. well, a hint, just absolutely obvious, understandable, that is, we are talking about the fact that this one is the uncoupling that has begun, well, the decoupling of the trump period of trade wars is technological , all these contradictions, starting with the attack on huawei zte today. complemented by semiconductor attack from chip four, a group against china was created from taiwanese tcm and other corporations, all this is there, that is, it is completely clear that this is the disconnect. it seems to be becoming more voluminous . new edge. the geopolitical military-strategic taiwanese is natural. eh, as it were, well, the mainstream, defined on the current period, but the fact is that the pin and its surroundings are true. they are well aware that today and possibly tomorrow, china is not yet ready

for a head-on collision; moreover, china is to this system, as it were, of a global, well, let's say, liberally global world economic system. he can't break, as it were, the blood right away this here this situation for 750 billion dollars of trade with the united states for 824 billion from trade with the european union. that is, he is, as it were, in such a not that trap, but, as it were, in duality on the one hand. politically, the chinese leadership absolutely understands that the course of china and the course of the united states are alternative courses. although they say in china, well, the thucydide trap won't work and so on. but it’s like such general forms they say, yes, and an open economy is inclusive, but on the other hand, it’s growing inside the leadership yes, and at the level of society, this is it, well, is there a desire to exit, but it’s still impossible to exit using technologies for 5-7 years , least. here are the chips for gdp yes, the second position is 16 trillion. here's what he said, this is 18.5% of world gdp. yes, this is a lot,

this is serious. but this is not a number, one understands that the competition will intensify. and most importantly xi jinping. you understand in this confrontation with the united states, it generally began that zentao comes when they threw it in in 2009, well, it’s clear from the leadership. and the ccp well, such a brochure that was published in a million copies. china is dissatisfied, junga buga aussie, and this is an explosion at the level of medium and chains. hmm, such an anti-chinese patriotic line, but today it is inside. eh, while si controls this one, well, let's say, and antikita anti-american mood color they are under control, but you know any first of all, the taiwanese case is taiwanese e, that is, it will become an explosion and in fact any of this, like a match to a powder keg, any force majeure, and the case, well, first of all, i repeat taiwan, it can be in some other points of the yukkm or there are malay kings, well, before we are talking about the taiwan strait, of course, especially since xi said that we are for

peace, but we do not exclude the use of force until the year 27. although the twenty-fourth year of the election. and there, perhaps, taiwan will have a change of administration. but that's another story, that is actually. but this one , well, as if in quotation marks, duality strategy, the us of china, when on the one hand they keep the rules of the game, well, this global one, how can we say so? well, in quotation marks, the american global system, which was formed in the ninetieth two thousandth, in which china actually grew up. he created an economic miracle, and on the other hand geopolitically strategically economically. they are getting into this clinch more and more. in the guide. there are no contradictions. there are just different accents, different accents, a forced approach, a smooth approach, but they are all absolutely. well, let's say patriotic moreover, what is the strength of xi, you understand xi jinping, as if united three elements. with weight, in general, all his events confirmed, of course, the strengthening

of the party of the ideology of socialism with chinese characteristics. there are no questions, but over this decade, he skillfully pulled up the civilizational agenda of the value of china of this civilization, including the centuries of humiliation. by the way, speaking of these anglo-french opium wars, they all also work, that is, not only 96 million members of the cpc, but one and a half billion, as if connected to this patriotic. agenda, but finally the connection of this left socialist idea and, so to speak , elements. well, such traditionalism of confucians, that is, debin, is not only an ideological leader. he is like a noble man with elements. that's all at kaan c solving e poverty social issues. that is, he, as it were, three elements in his agenda, well, he installed them and actually. we say that yes, all this is leader and centralization, yes the strengthening of ideology, but this is absolutely necessary for china, taking into account internal and external challenges dmitry and you seem to me to be very correct sergey

described the chinese dilemma, er, them on the one hand. e geopolitical, if you will, skepticism about the intention of the united states and on the other hand global economic independence. e, which is very er, is not easy to reject, especially in the short term, but as if sometimes life forces you to make a choice. and so i wanted to ask you, is there a feeling in the chinese leadership, uh, if the united states managed, on their own terms, uh, to end the conflict in ukraine, but if they have the feeling that, in general, this would lead to the fact that the american crisis with russia would somehow end, that, but there would be some kind of reconciliation. and, uh, the united states would release its power and energy. and for a new

attack on china to which you know, for sure, very many in american society are no worse than me, calling. uh, they say that in general the conflict with russia is artificial and it diverts attention in the united states from the main confrontation for the united states with china, there is a feeling of this in beijing itself, and if there is, does it play a role in, uh, beijing decisions on the current situation in ukraine yes , of course, there are such feelings both at the expert and at the hidden political level, that is, you understand, the problem is it doesn’t seem to me that the further the ukrainian crisis develops and the more successes, but about russia in this operation and the solution of the ukrainian issue, the more so, in principle. well, these are the sino-american relations. they're kind of, well, not something that canned, they go into

the status quo situation is what is happening now, if the scenario that you described, god forbid as they say, but how would we worsen, then, of course, and now these sentiments are china is well aware that it will not stand alone the united states it is impossible for him in one. even now he understands that yes. uh, russia is a powerful military-strategic resource, a different political status quo in the security council, but still , while it is waiting, as they say, the position of friendly neutrality. this is no coincidence, because. i have already spoken on economic reasons. he cannot change his position, but the most important thing is that in fact this scenario is dangerous, it is, as it were, ah, that is, in fact, a chinese-american track. today it depends on the ukrainian plot on russian successes in this. here is an amazing triangle formed ukraine china usa is the first part of the second

part of this problem. well, even under fujintao, when in general, china had an ideal relationship with the west. well, it's 2002 2012 the famous barack obama proposed khuzintau as a well-known project. a big two then it was. well, as it were, of course, on american terms. it was, uh, such a project, not only international, but also inside the chinese, such a wary probing for the possibility of liberalizing this cautious system of xi came, everything changed , intensified the vertical of power disappeared this thought, and the new version is a remake. uh, the big two in chinese is in quotation marks. she's hovering somewhere behind the scenes, and when the seeding made a report, it's understandable. he didn't even hint that china is the future superpower. and what is she, but it was read, as it were it read in the text. well, the experts understand that when, by the way, today in today's issue he is a

quarter-impacter, we are globally headlining the main one. uh, the editorial was directly i quote. it is chinese modernization that expands the scope of civilization. that is, as if not directly the collision of the united states, but in fact the chinese model before that. it was seen as a purely national socialism in chinese specifics. now they say the west has no right to a monopoly model of globalization, and for the third world the chinese model of modernization taking into account national specifics. she's perfect, she's versatile. this is a new one, that is, one belt, one road plus a community narrative, er, the fate of mankind. that’s all there is, as it were, cautious chinese maneuvers, namely maneuvers, gifs are plastic, but maneuvers to find the optimal position today, but without, of course , a frontal attack, and i will repeat the thesis once again. the main thing today, of course, is both the chinese theme and the american. well , the more russian depends on this ukrainian situation. well, uh, it seems to me that

what follows from you from your words. this is something that russian-chinese relations will certainly strengthen. and, of course, china does not want to escalate. uh, with its initiative of contradiction and relations with the united states, but china in no case can afford to fail russia in e ukraine , because it will be a geopolitical and geo-economic geo- strategic disaster for china. uh, the chinese russian partnership relations will be strengthened, and the continuation of the military conflict on ukraine indefinitely is also unprofitable for china, in fact. here we are once again observing, and the example of the coincidence of interests of the two great eurasian great powers is beneficial for both china and russia. russia's victory in ukraine, which will accelerate the formation of a multipolar world, will accelerate

the weakening of the remnants of american hegemony, and the united states today finds itself, in a situation actually two or even three wars, taking into account iran, which are becoming even more important for both russia and china and the front, and in any case, dmitry e, sergey gennadievich thank you very much for e. this is an interesting conversation. dmitry once again we congratulate you on your birthday until we meet again, and the big game will return to this studio in a few. she was born for figure skating, sometimes it seems that she does not slide on the ice, but seems to hover over it well. we just have emotions in it. russia the best

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on our website and stoloto branded stores what where when the autumn series of games on sunday at the first in the big game big bookmaker venline general partner of the russian premier league? the great game very often we say around this table that the policy of the united states towards not only the rest of the world of developing countries, but also including its own allies, is essentially non-colonial in nature, and that the united states is using europe as another expendable item in its policy of consolidating american dominance and fighting russia and

china, and more and more evidence of this is coming. just the other day, the washington post newspaper wrote that in the united states, in the united states, dissatisfaction with the european union is ripe, because it is too little, and too slowly, providing assistance to ukraine, they say. much more is needed. uh, than the european union allocates uh, until now, and here last week meetings of finance ministers were held in washington, there were sessions of the world bank of the international monetary fund. united states secretary of the treasury janet yen in clear kriti. and he called on his european colleagues, e, to increase aid to ukraine, and what do you think right there right there in washington, e, vice-president of the european commission valdis volonskis said that in the coming weeks the european commission will present a plan for financing ukraine and today in luxembourg a meeting of the ministers of foreign affairs of the

european union took place, following which the eu countries approved the creation of a mission for the training of ukrainian soldiers, and in the countries of the european union they approved a new tranche of military assistance to kiev for e, 500. e million dollars. yes, this reminds me of this. uh, the famous soviet statement the party said it was necessary komsomol answered there is nikolai yuryevich well , really, only if you remember the soviet statements, after all, in the soviet country, in addition to answering, there were still very developed sabotage skills at different levels, the order of the authorities. here i would like to wish the european union to master these skills, because otherwise, well, you will have to stretch. well, pens, otherwise it wouldn’t be legs yes this is this this is exactly in fact, uh, the politics magazine writes that the european union is catastrophic, and there is not enough money, but in order to cover the deliveries already made, uh

by the countries of the european union military equipment to the kiev regime, and that is, a fund has been created there, and it is called the peace fund in accordance with which, and therefore, countries like poland there and others that provide their weapons to kiev and apply to brussels for how much money they spent? and brussels, respectively , is supposed to cover these financial costs , and brussels is ready to cover only 46% of approximately 46% of the deliveries. and at the same time, the european union is taking on more and more new obligations. it seems to have to end sometime, when we say brussels, what do we mean? we're talking about germany, i guess. to some extent france and here yes but this is also likely the specifics of decision-making in the european union, where brussels really

manages very significant money, it can issue some kind of international obligations on behalf of all member countries, but it is far from a fact that these obligations are always backed by money here too. i think that the uh deeper the economic crisis that plunges the key countries of the european union, the more difficult these negotiations will be about how much money to allocate? well, yes, unfortunately this is a competition, in including economic happiness. we are in this competition. contrary to all expectations, we are showing ourselves better than, uh, than we could, that's for sure, and uh, even the ifs uh, actually revised uh, estimates of the fall of the russian economy and europe today looks much more economically suffering than russia but here e, they mentioned germany, but in fact there are certain reasons to believe that nevertheless, with some kind of spinal cord, the german current

political elite feels that they are consumables, that here is the preservation of the current the status quo, including the preservation of the current model of transatlantic relations, is unprofitable for them , chancellor olafsholz, but continues to push the idea of ​​the most fundamental reform in the european union since the adoption of the austrian treaty in the ninety-second year, which transformed the european economic communities into a european a. political union here, speaking the day before yesterday, at the congress of the party of european socialists. he again , e, called for the abolition of the last symbol and instrument, which remains in the hands for now, and member states of the european union that are still sovereign states, and this is unanimity, that is, the right of veto in decision -making on issues of e, foreign and security policy. listen to what olafshores said.

if a geopolitical europe is our demand, then a decision based on the majority vote principle is a victory, not a loss of sovereignty, a single european union, consisting of 27-30-36 states, in which more than 500 million free and equal citizens live. maybe even more strengthen your weight in this world. well, in the same speech, scholz. e, advocated a broader foreign policy and military autonomy of the european union from the united states and called for a coordinated purchase of weapons and military equipment and the creation of a rapid response force of the european union vladimir alekseevich well, on the one hand. yes, member countries are offered to finally part with the remnants of sovereignty, but on the other hand. you don't think so. for some reason i'm starting to feel this way. i don't know, maybe you don't agree with me that e scholz, but one of

those who feel that in the outer world, which is now being created with such centers as china india united states russia european union no, no at all. well, or is it as a consumable item, uh, the policy of the united states and that the creation of the united states of europe and this is exactly what? now sholtsev says we will stop being sovereign states, we will become states, so to speak, this federalist europe is, uh, a way of our own somehow hmm to create, or something, the subjectivity of the european union in this multipolar world, as they said very accurately, somewhere in some part of the brain. er, probably part of european politicians, starting from realizing that something went wrong, another question is how much this realization can correlate with real actions. after all, we know about the attempts to create a european army, we know

that these attempts were made. why did they not allow the americans to create any army for the europeans, the next moment of trans-atlantic solidarity today is the next europeans, and free of charge at your own expense. rather, they give. e ukraine everything that they are told and, if necessary, they buy from the united states of america what is missing. at the same time, the united states is driving both europe and ukraine into a crisis into economic dependence. as for the expansion that mr. shultz is talking about, this is a very big and serious issue. where to expand? what kind of new space state this is, it is clear that in its thought process, apparently, the european union extends to india and other countries. but i think that the former colony will not really agree. eh, with this, yes, and the uk seems to have left the eu yes, it would be more likely to keep it in the configuration in which it exists. as for the

reality of expansion? yes, ukraine is a big question , who is belarus, russia is a big question. and, if the countries of the so-called western balkans are just uh, serbia of the herzegovina era. here is exactly the same big open question, and given the same policy, how ready is serbia to become part of this bacchanalia. otherwise call it impossible. and turkey, which is over a heap of forest, sought the european union. yes, she perceives the situation more likely today. so let the european union join turkey, than turkey turned over into the composition, the united states of europe is a thought, uh, that has existed in europe for a long time. it arose a long time ago, but is it realizable in the current conditions ? maybe? it was possible and necessary to say,

when europe was a symbol of prosperity and stability, when it received enough gas at normal prices through the nord stream, when there were normal relations between russia and the european union, and when in germany there was industry, but then when it did not run away to the united states of america from this situation, then when the peace fund europe is associated with the war, it completely associates with you poland the dove of peace, this area of ​​fantasy. e exactly the same fantasy. today, despite on as you said, this is exactly the subconscious feeling of e scholz, exactly the same fantasy, the creation of this sovereign center from europe under the current conditions, the americans will not allow this under the current conditions, and europe already does not have enough resources to realize its own kind. well, this is the fundamental

question. actually. will the european elite , either the current one or the next one, be able to break, so we talked about decoupling. uh, usa and china here. will be able should europe go for such a political-psychological decoupling? so far , the answer from the united states seems to be no, but definitely, but at the same time , in that same europe, again, there is a growing feeling that the united states is not forever, the united states has already refocused on china and i say, that china and not european. so to speak, the challenges for them are the main, uh, threat of europe, instrumentally for the united states , as much as it is useful or useless to them in their, uh, fight against uh. with china a. then at twenty in the fourth year, a republican will most likely become the president of the united states. and already for barrel and olaf-scholz they say that here is a strategic distrust. thus to the

united states. yes, but did the united states hear europe last year, when they made the decision to withdraw from afghanistan, they didn’t hear, and so on, yes, that is, many questions arise, and again, europeans understand with their brains that something needs to be done with this then do. will they have the political will to do something here, this is already another question. as for china, well, uh, today's meeting of the european union foreign ministers also concerns china, and here is the eur active portal, with reference to an unofficial document that was sent out, which means that other member countries of the european union informed, that the european union is invited to take a tougher stance towards china yes , and consider china primarily as a competitor, but with limited certain areas of interaction. we also remember that nato is madrid summit of the country. europe, the european

nato countries agreed that china is the main strategic challenge proper. and for e nato, sergey gennadievich, here is beijing in beijing how they will react to such gestures of the european union in the face of this insane. well, let's just say the us's insane burden on its allies in europe, from temperature washing there, energy problems to even, so to speak, local, as it were, scenarios of a nuclear war in europe, in quotes or without quotes. well, in general, in any case, here is this solidarity about which you rightly noted it for the time being. china is watching closely, both at the expert and political levels. moreover, you see, in china there was a very big resentment towards the european union. when

negotiations were going on for 7 years, china and the european union concluded the so-called big investment deal agreements worth hundreds of billions more than that, it was signed. it was signed and sit down in 2020 in washington cheeky, because he didn't have this agreement and no, they didn't just click. they just twisted the arms of brussels and they annulled the already signed agreement. that is, it means that these are, well, cases, so to speak, to put it mildly, strange to put it mildly between washington and brussels in chinese, and they can definitely be repeated on the track. and this is the solution that you are absolutely right join the european union well, as it were skates to the chinese american front. this is a very typical phenomenon, but the problem is how long this is the euro-atlantic solidarity on the chinese track, and on a wider scale it will continue, especially since the chinese understand. they are already watching. they see

that this is a reflex confrontation, situational, which is growing in the world; it is also not beneficial for them, both on the european and other tracks, they need a controlled confrontation. they understand that the confrontation will not disappear, but manageable. give god will change in the 24th year if the administration in the states has hope. well, you still have to live on it for 24 years, so the chinese are tougher in the european direction. they understand this later with the europeans. well, that golden chip, this is criticism, human rights - it’s like, well, that’s all, it ’s sacred, and they elevate it into some kind of thing, but the absolute is something that the americans need , they pick it up, yes, yes, and you’re right, europeans. criticize e xi jinping conducts authoritarian terror in these e, national republics and so further. look at the economy there. roads are being built there. everything is fine there, therefore, in this sense, you are right, a chinese-european track. it is more and more contentious in terms of content, beijing's dissatisfaction grows when it turns

quantity into quality absolutely. well, it’s no coincidence that today, when the european union foreign minister is meeting in luxembourg, the chinese authorities have ordered large chinese state-owned companies to stop the resale of liquefied natural gas to europe perfectly, realizing how catastrophic the energy situation in the european union is today. yes, beijing officially explains this by the need for a heating season inside china, but sergeevich this is a signal to the europeans, of course, this is part of the first irritation that we just spoke to the chinese. second, it's a signal. and you understand, this is a common thing here on e, report cg! energy security was repeated. well, seven or eight times in different contexts. this is no coincidence and natural pipeline gas. and lng is all in one complex, of course, russia is here and the persian gulf is seen as the mainstream, as the main suppliers. it is clear but this story with exports and imports. lng is a separate story, but it

becomes politicized in the chinese sense in a good way. in the sense that if western europe , the united states violates china's rights, including in energy and other markets, they take a retaliatory step. but this, of course, is all very cultural and civilizational within the framework of chinese rules. well , if olaf-scholz e can be for the sake of salvation europe but offers to abandon the remnants of sovereignty from a strange member of the european union, but in a country that left the european union in order to protect its sovereignty, this is great britain, but a very acute internal political crisis continues to deepen, but about the resignation of the probable prime minister list, traces no longer speaks, but not mine. uh, i think so, but he's probably writing. here is literally all the british media talking about her being doomed, some saying she is uh, go away. er, in the end, yes. uh, that at the end of uh october,

uh, they even launched a sweepstakes that the resignation would happen earlier. uh, the track's leaf or the cabbage rot means, in the meantime, the track's leaf is fighting, she fired, uh, the former minister. e finance, but quasi, a kvartong, who actually was the main author of that plan, which sharply aggravated. ah, the economic crisis. e great britain's new finance minister, former foreign secretary under e, torez, may jeremy hunt has already canceled almost everything that the previous, e, minister did finance, but nikolai yuryevich it seems to me that this does not remove the problem from the very or rhinestone after all. it 's more like a change of finance minister, it's probably a respite from the inevitable. and by the way, speaking very uh, unpleasant to register a signal from washington a. joe biden. eh, called the plan. on the tras sheet

is wrong, right? a mistake, what do you think? here you will resist the e-leaf rhinestones or should we expect her resignation in the near future, i would say that the personal fate of the track is probably the least important issue. that's absolutely right the point is not that in the uk there was another unsuccessful one in power. it turned out to be another unfortunate example of the minister, and the problem is that these are really all-encompassing crises. and this is a crisis politically, this is a crisis of foreign policy goal-setting, because what is the meaning, what is the rational meaning of british policy, for example, regarding ukraine what is the rational meaning of the alliance bite is an attempt to play on different boards in order to maintain its international influence at the time, when at home everything is completely unfavorable, and in in that sense, i think biden is also less

concerned with personal fate or rhinestones, and more concerned with how, uh, the unpopularity of the british prime minister reflects on the unpopularity. e american-british bond, really very strong very old very saturated. but it is such, if you like, an attempt to appeal to the british voters that i am with you. i will support your decision. i understand that your leader is not popular. we'll start all over again and so on. i think the logic here is basically the same. well you absolutely right, just when you pay attention to systemic problems and indeed. since she became prime minister of great britain, following all the procedures, one can say by their democratic rules. she became the leader of the conservative party and was elected in accordance with the procedures that exist in the uk as the leader of the conservative party. and

here you are, that is, this is a problem of the political system and political elites but you must agree that a similar problem exists in the united states yes, now biden, indeed fears that a list of tracks with its absolutely unprofessional actions, even more unprofessional statements. and maybe, so to speak, to discredit, but the policy of the atlantic world, and in relation to the rest of the world in general, but on the other hand. here, and biden himself. he says that in the twenty-fourth year he will go to re-elections, there are no other candidates for democratic parties, yes, who could actually unite the country? uh, biden, by the way, absolutely can’t cope with this, but to become a competitor for donald trump and so on, that is, the problem of political elites, it is wider even than in the uk than in europe, it is typical for the entire e western

world today. and on the example of the biden route, we get a clear confirmation of this, we agree. yes, i completely agree with you. and i would also expand this is not only a problem of political elites - it is a problem of political systems. this is a crisis. uh, that, uh, the path that the western world has been following since the end of the cold war. when the internal political a discussion on substantive issues, when the people who won this cold war decided that they came forever, like biden and that they are completely indispensable and they know the answers to all questions, when ah, globalization has brought huge profits, to a few few or even in the elites, but at the same time it created such a flow of money that, uh, didn’t make them think about the future, now it

seems that all these trends of at least the last 30 years, if not the last fifty , converge, here, including the fate of the unfortunate illustrations. yes, indeed, the problem of the elite and political systems is in the collective west, which is still a collective, but can stop, but be collective, and today it looks like an undecisive preservation of the current status quo, radical changes are required. we will now take a break, and then we will talk about what these changes can be.

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big game on the air one of the issues that was on the agenda of today's meeting of the european union foreign ministers is new anti-russian sanctions within the unified state examination there is a very loud group of countries that are not very large, but very loud, uh, which are impatient, which are constantly uh stand for even more tightening. e anti-russian sanctions among them, latvia and that's the minister of foreign affairs of latvia edgar ringkevich, a said that a in the opinion of latvia poland baltic countries. in general, in the new the sanctions package should include issues of confiscation of arrested russian state, and he said assets, uh, in the european union, and the creation of a special tribunal for, so to speak, the so-called russian crimes. e in ukraine and all

this is happening in the background. already become regular, and protests, in the largest capitals of european countries, last weekend there were large demonstrations and protests demanding lower energy prices. what requires the normalization of energy relations with russia the lifting of anti-russian sanctions took place in paris in rome in vienna brussels madrid, leipziki. this is not a complete list, and at the same time in paris they were the most violent. in which tear gas was used by the police to disperse the demonstration, and this is only mid-october in western europe, including paris, it is still warm enough. this is what will happen, according to the onset of a really cold period in e

european countries, nikolai yuryevich parts? their policies regarding the ukrainian conflict and russia, or they will continue to simply disperse more and more massive protests. well, sooner or later. it may end in violence. and i don’t really understand how they can now turn back these courses in relation to ukraine, they have already gained great momentum. he gained momentum. not so much from the point of view of what is said, that is, from the point of view of what it has done, including, by the way, and explosions a-a in the northern streams, but it's not only in the northern streams. uh, at least the flow. uh, weapon goes to ukraine and turns it sharply . even if they want to turn it off now, how to get back cheap energy, especially since, well, the russian presidents have

spoken about this many times that it’s not the russian operation in ukraine in the energy policy of the european union that has been carried out for many years and not only of the european union. so it is not clear how you can turn off the trajectory that leads to this clash is another matter, that uh, i'm still not inclined to overestimate the protests. more precisely, i don't i tend to underestimate the ability of western european states to suppress such protests. there were already yellow vests, yes, which also. in a sense, uh, their protests were in a sense caused by energy policy, if we remember how it all started on fuel. a and a finished with them and quite effectively quickly hard. so uh, i wouldn't expect

violence, i wouldn't rule it out, but the fall of european governments as a result of political crises. perhaps, but some big destabilization. no, they've experienced it all before. its history. they know how to act in such a case. of course they have certainly experienced this in their history and violence will certainly be used in the capitals of european cities. but it's a matter of degree. so many observers say that, uh, that the current energy crisis, it is absolutely unprecedented. and the current rate of inflation is unprecedented for the past 40 years. now, whether they will find so many repressive tools to suppress such protests, well, we'll see. what about why and how it is possible to increase the supply of russian gas to the countries of the european

union answer no answer yes this answer vladimir putin and recep tayyip erdogan in astana, and erdogan said that the most convenient location for this hub. these are tailcoats. well, obviously it's the european part. e turkey and vladimir alekseevich here. how do you assess the prospects of this gas hub? yah, and this is just a visual confirmation of these bonuses that turkey misses its independent policy, pursuing its independent policy in the new multipolar world. yes, dmitry, if possible, at the beginning i am a refrain to what was said, which means about the european union, and the level of russophobia overshadows. uh, european rationality and rationality has gone somewhere very, very far in

europe. this is the first second probability. the radicalization of protests in europe will grow as living standards decline. and then absolutely i agree that national liberation wars in europe cannot be stopped by any repressive methods. if it all comes to this. ah, as for the turkish republic , it fundamentally chose the others not to be a colonial, more precisely, not to be a colony. yes, not to be part of a project, but to form your own projects. they put it mildly. i am always friends in russia, but russia and turkey, disagreeing on many issues, find common ground on the rest, this is what distinguishes us from our relations with europe who once fenced off all this and does not want to start a dialogue, not finding a point with a suffix. in one of the issues with turkey, it is not so, we have problems, but there are also a lot of important decisions

that we carry. only to each other, but also to the world, but also to the region, and russia and turkey are each other’s reliable economic partners turkey is the most reliable economic partner, one of the most reliable economic partners in russia, as our president said, this is true. so we have the blue stream. there is a turkish stream. we we are building a nuclear power plant fumigated to turkey the centenary of the turkish republic next year, and we plan to finish a lot of things by next year, a and b in this regard. uh, turkey gets uh, such a bonus of such an opportunity is actually from our hands, but this opportunity is beneficial for us too. what is the possibility of creating this very hub out of yourself? she proclaims herself a habom, which we talked about more than once in the studio. and now she gets this opportunity why because she is a reliable supplier. she is a reliable economic partner. it is profitable for us to supply gas to turkey turkey it is profitable to manage, in fact europe, if earlier germ had

such an opportunity i had him in turkey germany in the north, turkey in the south and the possibility of strengthening remained. from the gas corridor along the line of russia, ukraine-poland and further to europe today , these opportunities are narrowing down to the turkish republic. and if the european union wants to preserve at least some subjectivity, then it will have to balance not between russia and the united states, but between the turkish republic and the united states. it will be a brand new game for european union which they are not used to. well, what is the choice, they themselves made their actions. we provide reliable deliveries to turkey and then we pass it on. e paz to our turkish colleagues in supplying the european union with gas. turkey receives very large levers of control over this process and acquires greater subjectivity in terms of world politics.