the interlocutor, the russians use quite effective tactics; they constantly have three eagles in the air, constant communication with artillery and mortars, any movement on our side is this artillery rampart. unfortunately, they still have no problems with shells. but pashinsky almost does not talk about the capabilities of the ukrainian military-industrial complex and clearly. why he knows too well the state of affairs in the industry entrusted to him and cites the grom operational-tactical missile system advertised by kiev as an example. i have been working on the thunder project for 5 years. he's a peregrine falcon fake project. uh, this project is based on corruption and there will never be anything there. and a completely seditious statement for ukraine, contrary to the brave speeches of zelensky and his entourage , the former deputy does not believe in kiev's ability to recapture the lost territories. i do not see the potential of the watering can at the border on february 24, it does not exist. uh, we were in russia for a long time, do you understand what

russia is now involved in? well, at most, there is 30-40% of its potential. here things no longer change, apparently, even equipped with western weapons and ukrainian technique soldiers are not eager to die for western interests pavel krasnov dinislavin. channel one, the same pranksters only a week ago achieved recognition from the head of the ukrainian foreign ministry and kiev's involvement in the explosions in the crimea and belgorod. well, earlier, a portion of revelations were given to her, now the former head of the british interior ministry and the previously mentioned ben wallace. in general , there are enough stories. more we'll see in the antifreeze program right now. we saw the video, now i am asking this question with a special meaning ukrainian politicians sergei pashinsky, in a conversation with the pranksters vovan

and lexus, told some of the secrets of the heights. what is sapsan in ukrainian and why german weapons break and how russian rap spoiled zelensky's plans about this and much more on the program today. this is an anti-fake program. here we are waging our fight against fakes and disinformation in our studio today dmitry sidorin big data specialist alexey stolyarov prank, lexus journalist and dmitry drozdenko military expert you make so much material that you are very you often appear in our program for this material, as always, thank you very much, because i am sure that not only we, not only our viewers, but also the competent authorities of the russian federation draw some conclusions from your conversations and pranks, did michael become mcfall is already such a hackneyed figure that they don't pick up the phone from him . well, recently he commented on these

conversations of ours and therefore said that we are best friends, for some reason, maria zakharova. in general, it’s somehow connected with hearing this. i think agree, who did you talk to? now sergei pashinsky is the former head of the defense committee. uh, the verkhovna rada of ukraine, the head of the association in the defense industry, is a ukrainian person who is now actively involved in hostilities, is a person who is close to the commander-in -chief of the armed forces of ukraine, so the conversation turned out to be very interesting and extremely frank, the russians use quite effective tactics. they constantly have three eagles in the air, constant communication with artillery and mortars, any movement on our side is unfortunately, they don't have this artillery shaft yet . e hmm problems with shells, they have a fairly well-oiled system. uh, communications, orlan

command post or mortar battery instructions. artillery battery. which greatly reduces our potential. unfortunately, we were not prepared for the russian electronic warfare fish. yes. they turned out to be quite effective rap. and tomorrow i will be very close cooperation with our commander-in-chief pledged uh-huh. so i will focus his attention and raise a question so that uh, general miles still from uh, radio intelligence and rap. if we do not solve this problem, we will not have any momentum, because we can provide drones, but they jam. yes, but without a reb and without radio intelligence without help. uh, we don't sell it to the americans. it will be ineffective. it is often said that there are some problems with communications in the russian army. problems with communications. and here is

completely different information. well, look at what, uh, this mr. pashensky says. this refers to the reconnaissance long-range complex, that is orlanka p a mouth, what is orlan and this is a drone that we once started to make under a license now, as it were, we do it ourselves. uh , the main task of this machine, of course, is intelligence about rap, but i remember at the beginning of a special operation, when ours, of course, tried to attack starlenko, the pentagon directly wrote that. ha-hau russian did not work. we entered a few programming lines of code there and now everything is, like, inaccessible now. you know what to do, they are silent, quietly giggling into the tube already, they don’t have any of those . alexei michael miller who wants address or it's like our chief of the general staff with them, and the person who is now interacting directly with the mortgage, in fact. this man is now leading, uh, all the fighting. this is the, uh, man who determines. uh, how the

ukrainian army will behave, in short, the team is also the ukrainian army, in theory, so, in principle, yes, and once again, if we make a squeeze from this conversation, then here, in general, there is a recognition that usa, they can't do anything and can't cope. quite right, therefore. command post has been in america for a long time. yes, and our rap shows itself perfectly. once again remind me , despite the stuffing that has been carried out for a long time, that our rap is not very effective. but here the enemies themselves confirm that the effectiveness of our rap is quite high. by the way, how often do fakes discredit the russian army. now fly into the network is not that how often is it just part of the strategy from the very beginning that you remember these stories about looting and some parrots our military ate there, well, some kind of hell. here i am, looking, for example, at these pranks. i have

some pride in our information technology, after all, some other content format. now we are already looking at these ukrainian inform troops as wretched, because we have everything the same . yes, i think they sit there and think, because how can we do this. i would like to note here that the interview with sergei pashinsky once again proves that the fakes of the ukrainian propaganda about russia is just a reflection of their own problems. let's see, just this is an excerpt. uh, you should know that we already have in october, uh, the old stocks of soviet rocket books and s-300 runs out when the american ones for october november - it will already be all this collapse was such a disaster for me. that is why i initiated a huge . i ask you personally to take control of this. if necessary, i will drop some for you there. that is why i initiated an order by the ukrainian side in june.

uh, there is in america such a decommissioned from some complex past 23 hokk, us. it is urgently necessary to intensify the already completed applications and permits for these hoki. this will give us the opportunity to close the sky, i will later drop you an additional drop. this tomorrow i will scold. tomorrow i will tell the scumbags to ask for miles again, to put this in priority number one number one, because the deployment of these complexes is 2-3 months. uh-huh they are in poor technical condition. they've been in storage for 20 years. yes, that is, as it were, well, this is a whole process, yes, we received documents they sent something they sent us something they really sent something else, then they sent a certificate of what they lack, where they plan to buy in the future, and for some reason the weapons turned out to be there, kuwait was buying weapons in the knet. they will buy these

weapons from the kuveis through the americans, and then transfer them to ukraine is simply fantastic. as i understand it, it's state secrets, all these things that say it will not affect him in the best way. okay, okay, well, let's comment. about this weapon kok - it's very old weapons of the times. e israeli-arab e wars. that is, how exactly, as an air defense system in principle, it is worse than what ukraine had in this situation. well, firstly, these hawks will not have a particular focal effect. here are the systems. yes, they create danger, but they do not solve the main problems. that is, they are not able to close was not. that's good, but we remember that arrestovich told many times that the missiles were over. the missiles were over. here is one of the last uh, and just after october 10, it began to show in russia that the missile would be enough and the missiles would arrive and reach the targets that we had set. this is

how a cruise missile with a flying target looks like. they also asked for control, they took control of everything, they said, where it is necessary, but we have not reported anywhere yet, but i can say that, let 's say, the first listener of this recording was, of course, our general staff. well, pencil, i think something was useful from what, for sure, and about the benefits brought. we'll talk more about it later. yes sergey pashinsky just shared his problems in order to receive weapons now, such a very difficult thing. let's get a look. unfortunately , the most common problem, but i think that mr. binkin knows this even without us in words, our relations

are heavily bureaucratized. now uh-huh if it was all solved by phone calls. yes, now it is 10 or 10 visas from the ukrainian side and 15 from the american side, then it goes to the pentagon from the pentagon goes to the base in greece. somewhere this isn't me. i 'm investigating, not deliveries. yes, then there is, like, uh, that is. here's a good idea to create a union center has led to the fact that there sits 40 generals who run around with each other and ask. who will be responsible? uh-huh , you know, that is, well, it turned out beautifully. well , when are these all sorts of subgroups, yes, that is, how would they sit uh-huh. to be honest, i am a very emotional person, but they are all lucky that i do not know english, otherwise they would not have learned a lot about themselves. hmm , they are a month. will be coordinated, and who will deal with it? uh huh? how complicated is the system?

yes, if earlier on a call now something needs to be decided. why did it happen? why there is no longer such unconditional support, because everyone wants, probably, to stick to this pie in order to control weapons and receive certain money for this. but we also understand that he himself said that the deployment of these systems will take 2-3 months, only therefore now every minute counts. yes, about stuttgart, what is formed there now? why through the group? yes, there is stuttgart, uh, a certain one, which is there controlled by command 40, generals, well, yes, yes. well, they decide how quickly they will deliver. well, we see well that, probably , he does not know english, and i want to remind you that the united states created in germany a center for control over the supply of weapons to ukraine, so if, for example, an application is sent from ukraine, then it says to him, germany then back to the united states and then the usa does not even come to ukraine to greece from the

usa to greece, then again to stuttgart and then to ukraine in short, the chain has become very complicated dmitry ask. and here is greece there? uh, there are large uh, the united states bases there are large logistical uh, arms supply centers just like uh. in germany, in principle, this is just a good point in order to send something further from there. yes, there is also a control system. wanted to ask more. here, uh, quarrel of generals. how do you think they will see? this is a prank, what are they? i think that soon many will see, especially in ukraine and in the west, how things are with weapons and with them, let's say help, and can it affect how they are spoken about in shin . actually on the very fate of pashinskaya. i think that obviously this person will be removed away from the general staff of the all-union. i wanted to ask. uh, you are witnesses for the response to the reaction when they

try to justify some official statements. it is they who block all information completely. you will never find this in the ukrainian media there, that is, they are trying to pretend that nothing like this happened, which means there is nothing to say. yes, and sergey fillbert is in touch with us now journalist from germany from frankfurt hello we are glad to welcome you to our program. good morning, an interesting question is about stuttgart and the organization of this very center there, yes, for the distribution of e-weapons. well, the fact is that it was created back in august. so, in principle, i found only in one e newspaper, which is specifically for americans. it is written here that, in principle, this is such a small office at one of the american bases, which i am here a lot and there, uh, nato commander well, apparently the us military decides. uh, but because the

ukrainians demand from whom to take these weapons, that is, the americans decide. which country in germany is setting itself up in the conflict in ukraine, that is, uh, it turns out, well, in germany it is being held hostage. this nato structure and the german people. doesn't even decide. what weapon do they want. well , do they want what exactly it is that the nato commanders decide, that is, the americans are here in a small, as they say, just on the top floor of a small building you have. they solve it in stuttgar in a small office. do i understand correctly that when germany gives. greece's new weapons greece is giving away its old weapons to ukraine, then germany will need to supply some new weapons again. this means new orders. uh, the american defense industry is still for the sake of money. whether this is a correct scheme or not, the question is all the time about the money in germany rhein metal produces a lot of weapons. yes. the same leopard tanks, but uh, the american concerns also want to put something on the same

hamers. and since production is a long one. that's it, of course. this is an internal struggle between arms manufacturers between these concerns, who will receive a more lucrative contract for the same re-deliveries, and the weapons there will be reimbursed to the poles, yes, for tanks, and there lithuania and now greece that is, it's all money, nothing more to how there to sell something unnecessary. we need to buy something unnecessary. we have money. no. that's actually what is happening now in germany, all this with the money of taxpayers for the defense industry germany now, as soon as the conflict began, they promised 100 billion, unexpectedly and 100 m. true, and these will only be on credit, because uh, we now have a deficit, and there the gdp and the economy are suffering, only taxpayers in germany and everything is just the people, that is, it puts 60 km at risk from me is the city of bryukhel, there are 20 nuclear missiles of the americans. that is, if zelensky’s desire would, er, somehow, god forbid, be justified here, then the first answer would be. e with the russian

federation would fly us here. and this is what is really happening in germany to the german people we wish you strength in the fight against the american invaders on your territory. all the best to you, we will keep in touch, in general, you listen to this, you understand that the americans? well, they are very cleverly playing this monopoly yes game. in the sense of monopoly, because bang-bang and now the whole of germany is in debt. we immediately gave them 100 billion there. but they don’t owe us. yes, and in a way . will have to pick up something later. that 's just pashinsky admitted that the money that is allocated to ukraine, as a rule, goes nowhere about that is, he is your thunderbolt, how are you developing with them, they can change the situation at the front you want me to tell you how these are our state secrets no, of course, come on, let me tell you, let me tell you frankly, but it was me who worked on the

thunder project for 5 years. he is sapsan is a fake project. uh-huh, corruption is at the heart of this project and there will never be anything there. that is, even when you answer, no, we don't need goosider, please don't drown yourself. not i'll tell you frankly it was interesting 5 years. he led. yes, there is this production, says corruption lies at the basis of this. i mean, i don't know what's in a person's head. if we discuss, uh, tell our viewers about these projects , peregrine is thunder, right? here is one such project. yes, and just now the ukrainian propagandists assure that they allegedly fired on the territory of the russian federation, and we can look at this fake strike on the airfield alone here was inflicted with the help of the trc, some prototype thunder was shown at the parade on the day independence of ukraine, but for it to be in mass production it went somewhere in the series, this is not. that's just alexei vasilenko answers. in the comments, the sapsan fuel dispenser does not have such a fuel dispenser

; it simply does not exist either in hardware or in the working documentation, and even production for it has not been prepared . the ministry of defense also does not exist even in a prototype. it 's me, as an employee, yuzhmash, i know for sure with this question, how to believe everything else, people are not shy. this account was written on july 14 of the eighteenth year. we are now connecting yuri aktov, military historian, director of the air defense museum, to our conversation. yuri hello tell us, please, sapsan grom. that's it. so it means that he himself began to develop. uh, somewhere at the beginning of about the thirteenth year of the fourteenth year, the project hung at the development stage, a lot of money was spent. they were all stolen and that's it. this ended when the project began to come to an end, they decided to develop a new thunder project, then all information about the coffin is lost. but the fact that the

kiev regime is investing, well, a decent amount in order to complete the project and put up the complex. uh, thunder two in service. i don't know in this situation. it seems very unrealistic to me good answer. all the best to you. here, if pashinsky himself admits that all this is a fake and 5 years. he was doing it. yes, and he says, there is nothing there , and nothing has been done. ukraine is a great swindler, a swindler who is in the region and i think the system of these corruptions, about which they are already calmly they say well worked out, by the way did not tell. wherever the money was spent on a new house, there is a toilet bowl somewhere. well, the person is not poor, of ​​course , this is understandable. where did you spend the money? no, he didn't say. hmm. well, where are the corruption schemes, uh, right after the ads. we will continue to expose the ukrainian lies and listen to the new revelation of sergei pashinsky. children need. well, a lot for

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are waging our fight against fakes and disinformation, we will continue to analyze the frank conversations of vovan and lexus sergey pashinsky ukrainian propaganda constantly talks about what good weapons they are supplied with just one of the fakes. we can now observe this topic. so let's honor the truth gerashchenko use artillery more effectively than the russians. this is allegedly stated by mark milli, the same general whom we discussed, whether ukrainians and howitzers skillfully use weapons. three sevens have problems with the supply of ammunition. they confuse these ammunition. they do not really have, apparently, a sufficient number of specialists, logistics are not established and there is a feeling that, actually, because of these failures, they had to give up some positions. that is, their howitzers were supposed to work. either the projectile

is not the same, or it really broke. i don't understand how to serve it. these are the real messages in social networks. today we have a chief expert who can directly debunk this fake, right, because you asked this question directly. we'll get an answer now. let's listen. say, uh, uh, uh, uh american some and german cabbage rolls, uh they do not withstand some conditions of battles and are there cases when some partners supply equipment, slowly, of proper quality, these howitzers are a very complex technical product. and they uh require, uh, they require proper maintenance and staff training first. uh, american howitzers three sevens that came to us. i personally served because they forgot to hand over the instructions in person. so my guys went out and picked up oil. i called hodges. hodge

called the marines. this is a war to understood tarantino is resting uh-huh that's yes , indeed half, for example, of the same three sevens. e, out of order yes, of them 25% out of order due to technical reasons, and 25% is the human factor for the first 3 weeks out of 110 three sevens there. we have 40 out of order, of which 20 are out of order, because our gunners did not read the instructions in which to transport any to operate, but how to transport and when 109 are working all guns for 40 km fly instantly. uh-huh german shell 2.000, which i thought the best tool in the world. after 5-70 rows, it is necessary for 40 km. he's out of order. approximately, like my mother with a computer, when she calls and says, prices are necessary. here i have something here, i pressed something and everything was gone. interestingly, this is all, of course, to the question, and

mercenaries. yes, it is interconnected, because western appliances require care maintenance. yes , it requires the ability to handle it, therefore, it’s actually easier, well, to come to someone from another country as a military man, yes, and do just that, how to explain it. yes, such a huge amount. mercenaries in ukraine we managed to create. uh, clearing the path of foreigners each group of 20 people. more than 100 people personally called. among them were

acting officers. what countries of america did the video watch there, the shells are being programmed, the search for three sevens looked something like this, that is, it is clear that the calculation of the gun is dressed, as it were, in one uniform and, uh, a certain character who, using a special sensor, performs remote programming projectile, that is, it imposes. from above it is clear that he is dressed a little in a different way and the moment when he turns at that moment you turn away the phone it is clear that the man. well, it’s not very

customary for us to say that it’s already possible to be not very tanned. cola is clearly not very tanned. johnson some. well, let's just continue the topic of weapons, pashinsky says that the weapons are not very good or difficult to maintain weapons. yes? and with that , they just asked the question. where to fix it, where and how to fix it, because this is the second most urgent problem. and just now we will hear answers to these questions, and there is a capacity to service for repairs. eh, how is that where they are served? we have enough. thank you , lord, there are still enough repairs left from soviet times, the plant, enough. we have such a huge, you know , half-dead infrastructure. yes? uh huh, we have. uh, here is our plant, ukrainian plant, something soviet , uh, i just don't know how zoom is protected from listening. you know the factory. uh, already started

serving without even those documentation. the same crabs, uh, romny, base, military serves american three sevens. we are this is for us, thank god. no, not a problem. well, now what about the plant tell me i need to, i think it was received by the right people. let's see what the ministry of defense responded with a high-precision strike by the russian aerospace forces in the khmelnytsky region at the shepetovka repair plant, the workshops for the repair of rocket and artillery weapons of the armed forces of ukraine were destroyed, your information. helped save a huge number of lives of those guys who are now in the trenches, because the more equipment would be subordinated, the more it would come out to the front and start shooting in our direction. i would like to believe in it. i will also ask what crabs and howitzers are. well, according to the reviews, in principle, they are so-so. if we compare, again with

the production of the same reima, there was still the rivne base to listen to the report, another calibration took place. to be more precise, here is just a confirmation of the words that propaganda works in one way, and people work in a different way, we can watch a video that allegedly states the success of the hammers attack. it's very popular video 230, in my opinion thousands of views. this is a fire in a warehouse of paints and varnishes 2020 july. samara just took a piece of the video, on which nothing is visible. yes, something is smeared along the edges, there is smoke until then you can add any text in the best traditions of ukrainian fake-makers. well, i don’t even know how they find such videos. they apparently write searches on video smoke. yes, there is an explosion. uh, the only thing they're trying to note. to choose a date, it seems, so that nature would at least

correspond. although here they are there they are really confused, but in general we noticed sometimes, when they are in august, they collect videos for august only of some other years. e with the right video. we have heard about strikes many times. uh, himers in donetsk. hey, i'm sure you were wondering . how many are left in service? well , of course, yes, and certain figures were announced, but now you have enough or, how would you plan to supply with, uh, these, in general, i do not plan to deliver. i want you to convey this idea here. uh-huh we've been spending a colossal amount missiles. i won't ask you. and you probably do not know how many of them are left, very few of them. well, i heard log hidd martin, but there is already a new contract. well, now the main thing is that sigmartina god bless them, so that they work

in three shifts, then i know how the american industry worked after perkhara. yes, that is, as if, if the american one works at least half like this, then the russian empire will disappear. you must understand that there are no other options for disappearance. he says, what if the united states of america does not get on a war footing. yes, then nothing can be done with russia, there will be elections to the congress and the majority will most likely be received by the republicans, who take a completely different position. and the situation is unlikely to change for the better. i think that factories will not work in three shifts. who needs him, in the first place, and hardly anyone listens to his words. uh and plus to everything here. here, as a summary, now we can see the relationship between all the main figures, relatively speaking, between pashinsky and zelensky, yes, who wins? who does he think? well, let's see. listen, when mr. zelensky comes out and says that we are capturing. yes, this is a problem when mr. zelensky says that we

will go out at the border, there in the ninety-first year this is a problem that he does not know how to solve, but he declares it, yes, but i, the magician yermak, told me that the goal is now to reach to the border on february 24th. i believe that any conversations with the russians can only be if they agree to take the line. on february 24, these are the goals. well ok, i won't comment. you can, if you want my opinion, which i conveyed to them, i say everything, if you want. i have it i then have to return to politics. yes, that is, as it were, because i basically, now i have politics. uh-huh i'm doing you understand what uh-huh neptune rocket string outfits.