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good evening on the air big game today vladimir putin, accompanied by minister of defense sergei shoigu, visited a military training ground in the ryazan region

and inspected the occupations of mobilized soldiers in tactical firearms engineering and medical training. this is the first visit by the president of russia to a training center for citizens who were called up as part of a partial mobilization. this is important. well, and most importantly, the international news of today is, of course, the resignation of the prime minister of great britain liter straz, who was in office for only 44 days. this is the shortest premiership in british history and it is no coincidence that passion has become a clear symbol of unprofessionalism her arrival on downing street was not happy with the irresponsibility and refinement of political figures, even the biden administration and the american media wrote that special relations in washington and london could crack during the month of her premiership. the leaf once plunged the british economy into chaos, which actually became the reason for the political revolt that rose against it. and the rhinestone leaf is also a

symbol of frantic and russophobia, moreover, in the irresponsibility of radicalism and russophobia. she was not inferior to her predecessor borius johnson, who has already announced his desire to fight for the premiership again, we will now discuss the problem of elites in western countries and the russophobia that prevails in many of them with the president of the center of national interests. e, dmitry symom dmitry good evening. good evening, dmitry, how did washington perceive the resignation of the list-traz, and in russia it is a symbol of the grinding of political elites in the west. but in the united states , washington could share its own rich experience with regard to the pulverization of political figures. uh, so that what is happening in great britain but here is not not given out for the united states and for the american capital, whether

passionately, but as she came, so she left. she was a big supporter of a close union with the united states. uh, she, uh, sent her ministers to regularly consult in washington. so her secretary of defense for an exchange in the area visited the american capital. generally. she did nothing from the point of view of the united states , so that she could be especially dissatisfied. well, from her point of view intellectual abilities. i had a conversation. they are with one american politician who is with her several times. he met and i asked him. well, isn't it embarrassing that the nearest, uh, ally of the united states, great britain, has a man at the head who makes an impression. sorry for the expression

round idiots. and i was told, dmitry well , after all, we have a democracy and, in fact, most people are stupid, because why is it impossible for them to have their own representative in a leading role from when in general, e criteria, e what -then great mind and should be used in the selection of great politicians says, then we would have a congress, and many people would not have a place so that as she came she left like that. uh, recent major english examples. well, let's say they were like this for a long time, but it was from the seventy-ninth to the ninetieth year, and, which was, of course, a very outstanding person. she was not an intellectual. she sometimes in general. she felt like she knew

more than she actually knew. but she was a man with a will of steel with a kareema, if you will. with some kind of inner decency. well, she was a big anti-communist, but after she talked with gorbachev. generally. she decided that it was possible to deal with russia by the soviet union and even made it her mission. make sure the reagan who still doubted that gorbachev is a different type of leader and you can work with him, then for 7 years there was a jonarger who, uh, was not so brilliant and was not so memorable, but we are a very reliable person, with great common sense. i talked to him twice and in general, i have he lied with his, if you like, informed pragmatism, then another 10 years was tony blair , who was, of course, a bright person in his own way.

especially as a politician, but he was already such a staunch neo-conservative, but actively encouraged the united states to invade the enemy and other things that, in general, america, from my point of view , were not needed at all. well, then they went one by one, and the gray personalities were unremarkable until the appearance of boris johnson. well, if boris johnson worked in a circus, i would say that he would they didn’t appreciate it if they agreed for zhirinovsky that they would organize some variety performances together. i think it would be a brilliant combination. well, so that such a person is extragnant, impulsive and without a sense of responsibility, so that he leads a serious power. this, of course, was in general difficult to accept and uh with more si johnson. it

seems to me that in england the tendency of its own inadequacy has become aggravated, that is, the former not just a great power is almost a superpower mistress of the seas, and about a person he led a country, er, which left the european union. i'm talking about boris johnson, of course, and which, as it were , announced its special role. and what happens here? russia putin is saying that you will go your own way, that you have the right to define your concept of independence, as it were. and not only that, to insist on a new world order, this, of course, aroused the indignation of this part of the english globalist league. well, then came the track. dmitry would not be able to tell you anything remarkable, except that she was absolutely incompetent. at least i can't say

that. i don't know if i've never met and never have. heard nothing good but bad about her, but she was chosen nonetheless. who will replace her , we do not know, but in general, uh, dmitry, a sad situation. i don't know when was the last time you were in england but england it has changed drastically. is that how you arrive? what does an airport look like that looks like a third world airport and you come to english universities and you immediately see in cambridge in oxford. well in in general, it was pride. not only england, it was the pride of the world. these were brilliant universities with brilliant students. and now a significant part of the students are selected by category, and political, for example, in america and when they select e people who will go to oxford well, the so-called clan with spikes, which you know are the most prestigious. if you want the time

that only can and students and pick up two people from the staff. here regularly. now, by the way, marilyn, where i lived until recently, was picked up people who were uh, sexual minorities, but naturally racial minorities are people with some kind of disability, and better with the first second and third is er. that's what happened to oxford for me was a reflection of the manifestation of, if you like, the descent down, and england, which was once not just the greatest power. but if you want light than civilization. here is such a fall into not england itself and the reflection of this symbol of this became what a person is, how leaves passion could become prime minister dmitry and since in great britain is both a permanent member of the un security council and a nuclear power and a close ally of the united states, then this is the degradation of its

political elite. in general, in my opinion, not just a sad, but a dangerous phenomenon that can lead to an undesirable direct military clash to very unpredictable consequences, an undesirable military clash between russia and nato, and it seems to me that the problems are not only in liters of problems, really is systemic. you are very this was clearly illustrated in this review, and the last e prime ministers of great britain , starting from e. margaret thatcher but i do not think that after the track the situation will somehow improve radically. well, uh, just 2 days ago , a survey was conducted among members of the conservative party who uh? the most popular politician whom the conservatives would vote for if the new election of the leader of the conservative party were held right now and boris johnson is leading by a significant margin,

who, as you quite rightly said ah would have been a genius clown and circus worker, but he was a dubious uh, prime minister, uh, uk and problem. it seems to me that it is really systemic in nature and consists of at least two things, firstly, the new generation of political elites in the west, including great britain and the list of routes certainly belongs to this new generation, they have never lived in an existential threat. they don't know what a big war is. they don't know what the fear of nuclear war is to them. this is, in principle, not familiar, and this significantly reduces the responsibility, prudence and caution in those statements and steps that they take, and the second problem is that this same generation was brought up in the conditions of a moment of unipolarity and the end of history, when

it was not required to respect diversity and genus diversity civilizational political diversity dialogue with those who differ from you in political values ​​was perceived in no way something correct, but as deviation and atavism. yes, these people were formed, but grew up with the feeling that everything unconditionally transformed in accordance with the values ​​that were proclaimed universal, and the degree of transformation and readiness to transform in accordance with these values ​​determined. eh, actually readiness for dialogue with these very people. and if someone is not prepared, not ready, but to become like us, then, accordingly, and uh, a dialogue with them is not needed. and it is even harmful and it is necessary to create conditions for those who do not want to transform. in the end, they understood. and that

this transformation is allegedly inevitable? here is this the problem seems to me to be dimitri and i don't see how to solve it in the short term. it seems to me that a new generation of politicians should come. a new generation. an elite which, in turn, must emerge in conditions of conflict, in conditions of danger , in conditions of fear, and in conditions of multipolar diversity. that's when new thatchers will appear in the west, and helmut schmidt willy brant, connor adenauer and charles de gaulle agree. you absolutely know dmitry, i had experience with macro-watchers in the mid-eighties. i was in london at the conference. and i was invited to meet her. naturally, i was very glad and went, and i was surprised that she asked me little and

more, as it were, expounded to me, and in a very authoritative tone, her point of view on the changes taking place in the soviet union. i say that she is wasting time on me, if she knows everything anyway. i'm not of the scale of a person that it's worth wasting time on such a lecture per one person who explained it to me, although she herself did not tell me this, that no matter how she wasted her time, because at that time i was writing a lot on american television regularly for the new york times, and she seemed to think it was appropriate to give this kind of briefing. to bring her point of view on the changes taking place in the soviet union, which she considered to be serious real. but then she didn't ask me any questions. and now dmitry, when i meet with the british with people from their foreign policy establishment. they do

n't ask questions either. only they don't ask questions , not because they want to spend even their point vision, but because they are not interested. once they hear a different point of view. they start at first, uh, getting upset and hoping they'll somehow put you in your place. uh, uh then if uh, it turns out that you are not ready to succumb to their arguments. they begin to lose interest in this conversation, because why, if you are such a wrong person that you don’t understand both the superiority of their value and the absoluteness of their interests, the interests of england, that these are interests, now not only of england but also of the world. it seems that further talk is useless and therefore , in the case of russia, this dialogue of the deaf arose,

because as soon as they understood that an evolution was taking place in russia, which leads to the fact that the political elite, but now they are not ready to continue studying in england and in general, the collective west as a whole. and they began to have great irritation against this russia, and when, moreover, they came to the conclusion that in russia not only a point of view had arisen on this. well, what is russia based on? of this point of view, they are ready to build their own policy, and to do this is more and more decisive, then i want to tell you what arose among the british elite, if you want such a collective rejection of russia and even some kind of indignation e in the nineties. that's what we said to russia so sympathetic. we were ready to take you away from a good company, though your oligarchs have billions of dollars and

allowed them, as it were, to open them later. uh, she has departments at prestigious universities named after them, eh, but still, here they are about taking billions. somehow they didn't really notice it. and the fact that they invited these people to their company seemed to them that it was a sign of special honor, and here such black ingratitude. you're right. this is the generation of the english elite lost to dialogue with russia and any serious dialogue. you will have to start. e with other people. i 'm sure there are such people, because when you look at the english opinion polls. you can see that trust in british politicians and, uh, both parties, that trust is at a very, very low level dmitry but after all, about the lack of readiness for dialogue with those who do not share your point of view, who are different from you and are not going to be

like you, and this problem is also typical for the united states, because the national security strategies of the united states also wrote that we hoped that china russia after the end of the cold war wars within the framework of market transformations will become like us, but they did not . this caused us deep disappointment. and now we are holding in relation to these countries to the information policy no dialogue, we do not accept them the way they are. namely, we are pursuing a policy of confrontation in order to achieve victory and still try, and pass to return them, so to speak , to the right side of history in the american sense. and in russia, a rhinestone leaf is not only a symbol of incompetence, but also a symbol of rabid russophobia. here is a terrible dislike at a pathological level for today's russia, and the perception of russia as uh, if you want an evil empire,

that's how similar russophobia is and how much the problem that i outlined is typical for united states for both the american elite and ordinary american citizens. dmitry unfortunately , it is typical and more and more typical for a certain part of the american elite, you know that at one time, uh, there was a concept of a melting pot, where people from various countries, emigrants from various countries, representatives of different cultures, religions, seem to get, and they as if they melt there , become one, and so they create, then a community that is the american people, that is, people have their own skin color and their history. and naturally, some kind of attachment to those countries. where did they come from, but they became

some kind of new public, then er gradually. uh, in the spirit of multiplexism. we began to leave in the america of the breakaway cauldron. uh, to, if you want, uh, some mixed salad, when everything is together in one, if you want pots, but there is no real commonality, and now gradually the united states is turning into bolds. uh, where, uh, how to find out some parts of the population have their own point of view, while others have a completely different one now, uh, early november. uh, there will be congressional elections. i'm sitting in my office right now in the very center of washington, and here it is on the building next door. it curls there. eh, a little big. for some reason, captivating the american flag at all in washington right now i can't even describe it to you, because when you

say it to people, it's hard to believe the empty streets, empty buildings, some kind of lack of energy, as if this city does not belong to anyone. and i live , uh, 100 km. and next to the city which is also called washington washington in the states of virginia is small the town is less than a thousand people, and flags of the southern confederacy fly there too, because a large part of the people who live there are not that they are supporters of slavery and not that they are ready to completely separate from the antics. they just want to show their new identity and their identity, of course, is not washington, which controls the democrats, but now appeared in the united states, er. well, if you like, a new trend when racism is, but if unofficial laws, then at least

acceptable if this racism is applied against the relevant unpopular populations. look what she said about this yesterday, huh? fox's lead commentator tucker carlson, responding to the increasingly frequent appearances on television of people who blame whites for everything and even say that white is genetically incapable of creative thinking and compassion, let's hear what he says so openly. the essence of her statement can be understood white women are dangerous, because all white people are dangerous in their dna predisposition to domestic violence and you could object to this, if she dared to say this about any other social group except whites, then her program was immediately closed, and you will be right only and whites are people

like tiffa necrosis they can say nasty things on federal channels with relish and at the same time every word. well, dmitry, if you can say nasty gaps, and speak more and more openly and more and more regularly. you can imagine the attitude towards the russians. it's not a relationship anymore. just putin is no longer just a relationship with the russian elite. this is no longer just an attitude towards russia, this is an attitude towards russians, but which, as it were, is increasingly borrowed from hostility towards everything russian in poland and the baltic states, they openly say that russians are people who are aggressive by nature, that russians are people who by it's nature. they simply do not know how to tell the truth, that russians are people who do not know how to work normally. and in general, this is not the kind of people with whom one can peacefully

exist. if only how not to put them in place, unless you weaken them. unless you create such international structures that will ensure that a straitjacket will be put on russia. this is outright russophobia. i'll tell you right away. i do not believe that it is inherent in all americans and even the entire american elite, but it has become, if you like, socially acceptable. that's because the democrats are ready to divide people into racial groups, and those groups that, from their point of view, are wrong, you can make frankly russian statements about them. and dmitry well, this is another illustration of what we have already talked about, when political problems in the united states become problems of american foreign policy and those in relation to whom this policy

pursues, because, on the one hand, of course , the united states is now russia's opponents a and maybe many in russia find those difficulties, conflicts that arise within america, cause gloating, but not for me. yes, of course, uh, the biden administration will certainly run into difficulties after the alleged victory of the republican party in the midterm elections, which will be held on november 8 and after kevin mccarthy, the current head of the republican minority in the house of representatives, becomes its speaker, replacing him in this post. uh, nancy pylose. here is one side. this is good, because it threatens, and for the united states, legislative, paralysis, paralysis in terms of decision-making and in the main issue, where the role of congress is maximum. it's a matter of allocating money, and congress owns the power, the purse in

first of all, the power, the purse of the united states and, in this regard, the process of allocating money to ukraine may be difficult and most likely will be difficult as a result of this legislative and domestic political paralysis under the new divided government in the united states but on the other hand. here is the degree of intolerance, that degree of inner hatred of the inner. it’s just that the hostility of a different point of view that exists within american society also strengthens foreign policy hostility in politics . united states towards russia weakens the ability of the united states to engage in dialogue. and with e. the same russia with china with those countries that differ from the united states and declares that they are not ready to turn into something similar to some kind of similarity. and the united states that's it really. a very big problem. and i

don't think uh before the united states can sort out its internal problems and somehow glue it back together. american society somehow find some unifying principle and overcome stupid-political civil war that exists in the united states now. i do not think that american foreign policy can change qualitatively, but towards greater realism and greater acceptance of the multipolar reality that is being formed before our eyes. and this is a very serious problem. this is a serious problem. well, i wouldn't exaggerate. well, if you like, uh, the strength of this russophobic position is inherent in a certain part of the american globalist establishment. uh, this uh does not prevent globalists from seizing leadership positions in politics. but when they take these positions it is in response to economic difficulties. they are because the

sweet song of globalism is very popular with the american voter. you rightly spoke about makarte, who is most likely to become the speaker of the chamber. this is a very influential third person position in the state. not a friend of russia has ever positioned himself like this, but he is a person who wants to have real power and a real opportunity to control, as if they just rightly said the costs and when such people, how they will control even one house of congress. and this is likely to happen. that sticky support for ukraine, support that, in fact, even now is no longer justified by american national interests. and almost elevated to the level of a crusade religion. i think that this can stop very quickly, but, of course, let's wait and see dmitry i also hope that the

policy of the united states will again acquire rationality, that the united states will realize that the most important existential interests united states is to prevent nuclear war. this is the survival of the united states as a country, as a nation and and what about this crusade against russia, uh, through uh, endless support for ukraine, it will decline, uh, in the medium term dmitry thank you so much for an interesting conversation as always, and the big game will return to this studio in a few days. the decision was made to place our e -missiles with nuclear warheads on the compartment, the first reaction was the reaction of a bitter broken and angry person. he just wanted to get those missiles out of the way and that's my position. in cuba

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economic chaos, and which now reigns in the british economy, and in many respects provoked by this economic plan, uh, which list of times proposed, together with her former, and the minister of finance, a quasi quadrant, but uh, alexander alexandrovich to what extent can the departure of a list of tracks, uh, help solve the problems of the british economy? after all, as i understand it, her economic ideas only aggravated the situation, but did not become their root cause, and what conclusions can be drawn for the economy in general, observing the current situation in england well, of course, the main question that can be asked. uh, to those who chose her, that is, the representative of the conservative party. actually. why was this done it means that it leads to such interesting results 44 days - this, of course. all in all, it's probably pretty hard to say, a really heavy story. well

, uh, it's clear that the british economy. uh, she has problems that did not arise today, they also arose during the crisis of the eighth and ninth year, and in general, the actual loss of dynamism in the economy and the uk of a number of others. e, western countries was connected with the fact that these processes of globalization, which, in general, in fact, it must be admitted, moved the world economy for 20-30 years. they started naturally. thus, by the end of the 2000s , e will come to naught. and this means that the model that was implemented by these countries. it begins to falter, while it must be said that not all countries, e, are developed, greatness is the same. for example, in germany, it tried to more or less preserve the real sector, and the real sector, the primary income itself. in general, against this background, after the crisis of the eighth of the ninth year, it received, but absolutely leadership in the european union, but the united kingdom, which was freed. in general, from most of the industry, e

real sector. uh, i've been having some problems. with these same primary incomes, these problems have not been resolved. and in fact, these are the energy problems that we see price increases every year. this is only an addition to those problems that are already of a fundamental nature. that is, there is no recipe yet, and exactly, so we see a change in the british government that this is not the last in a short time. and mid-term change of government you're quite right noted that it is necessary to ask a question to those who chose e, listraz. the fact is that vot was not chosen by british citizens, british subjects, and the british political system is such that the leader becomes prime minister, the majority parties in parliament elect parliament. but then the leaders can change and the election of new leaders takes place within e-party, so to speak , and within elite behind-the-scenes deals. that is, in essence. truss was not chosen, and the trass

was appointed by the elite of the conservative party. yes and then the same thing will happen to others, and to prime ministers in many ways, so the laborites are now insisting on early, and parliamentary elections, but it is clear that the conservative majority, which so far retains a majority in the general house, will not agree to this, because then there is a crash uh, this election will lose. that is, when we say that great britain is a democracy and political leaders are elected there. it must be remembered that not quite. yes, that in particular the sheet of the track, and before it, boris johnson was not elected by the people of the country. well, here is a retired track list. uh, actually there was a very interesting episode and it was connected with the blitz visit of the secretary of defense of the united states , ben wallace washington, by the way, ben wallace is again one of the candidates for, uh, the post of prime minister. e great britain is the same as rishi suna to pennies, mordon. actually. the same

party and, of course, boris, so now, when the chair was clearly on fire under the tracks, when everything started to crumble, when the british media began to write that the track was not even days, but hours instead of being in london, and the minister of defense of great britain urgently flew to washington, moreover, canceling all the meetings that he had at the westminster court. that is, in the parliament building a and, and it took such a confidential meeting with loyd austin , secretary of defense of the united states, that it was impossible even to talk over uh, some kind of u means of communication. it was necessary to communicate personally. yes, and it happened just like that, during the period of aggravation british political crisis, and the general context of the broader context. uh, is the following russia is carrying out partial mobilization

is already completing partial mobilization in the near future will accumulate forces in order to possibly move on, and to continue the russian offensive , russia has sharply intensified shelling of a-a energy infrastructure facilities, and in ukraine, uh, ukraine is suffering today the day is actually an energy disaster, and the apu offensive in the kherson region is clearly choking there too it's worth a very big, uh, battle. and in the west, they say that russia is allegedly ready to use tactical nuclear weapons in ukraine , despite the fact that russia itself categorically denies this, and in this connection such an impression arises. i don’t know how much you share it nikolai viktorovich but is the west preparing for some kind of provocation or for some kind of transition to a new to a new level of escalation in the context that i wrote and that is why

such an urgent and secret visit of ben was required wallace washington that i think we have everything reason to believe that the visit of the minister of defense of great britain to such an urgent secret us was not dedicated to the change of the prime minister. and of course , the discussion of some very serious, very secret unacceptably secret information. what can they talk about now? of course, about what is happening on the territory of ukraine right now, while we were preparing in the program, news came in. zelensky claims that russia allegedly mined the kakhovka hydroelectric power station and the dam and is going to blow it up. that is , the whole story continues, they fired on themselves, all the same ridiculous scary ones would be funny if they weren’t so terrible accusations of russia in shelling the zaporozhye nuclear power plant. that is, i would suggest the following story, since zelensky has already voiced all this. uh, they're going to really blow up. i mean, the kiev regime, uh,

blow up the kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station immediately shout loudly that it did it, russia is next. well, this will lead to certain human casualties, but they need a media effect, after which they blow up the same thing only in kiev with even greater human victims and submit it as a response to russia this is the first option the second option uses the united states great britain unknown snipers, anyone tactical nuclear weapons, perhaps, by the way , they say on the dam. well, the russians did it. here, look, and what cunning of the russians zelensky himself is already preparing in his speeches, allegedly they blew up the kakhovka hydroelectric power station and then themselves, allegedly in response , struck at the infrastructure of ukraine judging by the level of secrecy of the conversation between the two anglo-saxon powers. i think it should be about some well, a massive provocation and the last one, cherry on the cake. we have said many times that the eu sanctions have somehow run out, there is

nothing to include in the package, a new way out is needed. to the next level. we need some incredible atrocity, allegedly committed by russia, when all the indignant humanity will take such sanctions that have never happened before. well, i very much hope that i share your anxiety and your concern. i really hope that the biden administration still has enough wisdom and political will not to allow such a provocation, because , firstly, as russia has unequivocally stated for a very long time , there cannot be a regional nuclear war in europe, that is, if a nuclear war starts, it will intertwine, it will reach the global level at the level of a global nuclear war, this is the first , and secondly, if there is such an escalation that nevertheless leads to a direct military clash between russia and nato, then the united states will also not be able to sit out overseas. they will be involved, it was taken directly to this conflict will also acquire at a certain stage. moreover

, it is enough to quickly control nuclear escalation and prevent the escalation of the conflict. we have not learned it is impossible. yes, and now i just really want to hope that there are sensible people left in washington who understand this, but what is happening in the west. negotiations on further escalation of this conflict through provocations. this is undoubted, but in addition to the ukrainian conflict, the west is actually trying to inflame other regions of the post-soviet space. we are a lot they said that, for example, the policy of the united states in central asia is aimed at tearing them away from russia and convincing them that their future is with russia in general, they need, as it were, and it doesn’t matter where to move away from russia the main thing is to move away from russia, while the united states does not even hide it. this is openly stated at congressional hearings by representatives of the american agency for international development

another region where the united states seems to be trying to rock the boat and exacerbate conflicts. this is transcaucasia today, and on the border of armenia, azerbaijan, the observation mission of the european union began its work. forty people themselves on sending this mission on the organization of this mission was reached an agreement on the seventh of october, and the prime minister of armenia, pashinyan, the president. e azerbaijan aliyev example e, president of france macron and chairman of the european council, and charles michel, moreover, quite recently. e immanuel macron, who is, one might say, the founding father of this mission, a and which does not hide the ambition to play a very important role in the caucasus, stated that moscow allegedly, but played a game in azerbaijan with turkish complicity, i am quoting the macron, and also

intended to weaken armenia, which was once close to it, responded harshly. uh, vladimir putin what, what, what, that france does not understand at all, what it is talking about and simply destabilizes the situation. and even before this statement, a macron with a blitz visit. vanya visited the famous instigator of regional and global conflicts, nancy palls. hey speaker, bye still the current house of representatives, but the united states congress message. the same russia allegedly cannot cope with allied obligations towards armenia and therefore armenia needs to change its ally, therefore armenia needs to be reoriented, so to speak, to the united states ivan alekseevich so you agree that the west is purposefully pursuing a policy of pushing russia out of the caucasus , and i. right now, armenia is one of the main targets of this western policy. if not the main target, in general, this is really true, uh, the main goal of the

united states is, of course, to squeeze russia out of the caucasus, ideally. they would like to remove it altogether, but they are starting to move into the caucasus. and armenia is chosen. how well, what is it? now the link is like an entry point in order to implement this, one must understand that the armenian people survived the tragedy , uh, connected with the results of the last conflict. uh, and this is not just such a tragedy, you know, the military is a tragedy more. e, wide where there are elements and such ideological philosophical, that is, e people are trying to realize what happened? yes, what went wrong, and two main points of view, one is that, here. some say that we relied too much on russia and this did not

justify itself. well, another point of view. well, i won’t hide that, of course, i think it’s more fair that it’s just the opposite, uh, armenia has moved away from relying on russia with uh, the current political leadership and such frivolity in very difficult geopolitical conditions that began to allow themselves. eh, that led to a national tragedy. i may be a little rude, but i always say that the conditions in which armenia finds itself require a very strict geopolitical diet from it. here, uh, very difficult geopolitical conditions, it is very easy to make mistakes and it feels like there were mistakes. e, were committed and e. i think that, while the armenian people need some time to

realize this and draw the right conclusions, but, unfortunately, apparently the western powers and part, uh, part uh, of the ruling class inside. uh, armenia is trying here in this situation of confusion, here. it's in e. some of the disorientation of the armenian people against the background of this tragedy is to play a very cynical and rude rude game, and i would compare this with e with bolts. so, when, somehow, 30 years ago, the americans tried to establish their own order in the balkans at the expense of serbia, on serbian tears, on serbian blood, on injustice against the serbian people. here they tried to establish their own order. and we see a decade later that he is bursting, uh, bursting at the seams. here. uh, now uh, for the same role. e at the expense of whom everything

should be done is chosen. uh, armenia was chosen in the transcaucasus. and unfortunately, despite the fact that this game is a very primitive scheme, very primitive , circumstances have developed that even such a primitive game is being played and uh, so let's say it has some uh, it has results. eh, i can do this. well, you absolutely rightly said that this is a primitive game, certain mistakes have already been made. the main thing is to be wrong. even larger ones were not made. ah, but here the west does not at all hide the fact that it is striving for a kind of armenian- azerbaijani settlement. never mind. under what conditions, but the main thing is that the relevant documents be signed either in washington or in brussels under their western leadership with their

coordinating leading role, while still the last aggravation, which was the war that was between armenia and azerbaijan in nagorno- karabakh was completed by russia with russian participation after all peacekeepers did not observe? strong the civilian mission, but the military peacekeepers that exist are present in nagorno-karabakh. these are russian peacekeepers, not turkish, yes, not european russian, not american of course, yes, namely russian peacekeepers a and there is information that in washington a, a document on the final regulation is being actively promoted from the delimitation of the border, a between armenia and azerbaijan a, which does not provide for any guarantees at all for the armenian population, which will finally end up on the territory of azerbaijan within the framework of the azerbaijani, and sovereignty and uh, the fate of peacekeepers,

including russia, primarily russian peacekeepers, is also in no way stipulated. and an android. here, uh, the armenians of armenia, and there is an understanding that, besides russia in general, who will protect them? if it squeezes out russia, who will protect the armenians, the turks, or what? do you know in different armenians? there are different understandings of this problem. i try to explain it all. unfortunately, people listen only to themselves and their own narrative and are no longer able to listen to what others say and what is. other approaches, and they are being implemented. well , first of all, i want to say that i'm very sorry, but i can't help but say this has nothing to do with it. uh, serbia yugoslav prime minister has nothing to do with what is happening in the south caucasus, especially in armenia, firstly, serbia, as the core of yugoslavia, wanted to preserve serbia

yugoslavia as an empire and when this failed, serbia wanted to create the great church and serbia smashed from all sides, because no one wanted to have an orthodox serbian great church there, which would be a serious factor for russia. so the armenian situation is fundamentally different. that is, it is simply heaven and earth. what is the armenian situation and what is happening today? but, firstly, it is cooling down there, unfortunately, here is the russian -oriented armenian forces with whom i am in touch. as you understand, i only communicate with these, and i try to explain with others i try to explain. there they all say, the management does not make any mistakes. they do what they did for 20 years, for 20 years they subordinated his commands, said the victims who

the nineties sacrificed themselves for this. this created problems. for armenia, it must be dropped within the framework of this program. once he said the arrival of russian peacekeepers is a knife in the back or a knife in the heart of pashinyan, because it prevented him from realizing his plan, which is 20 years old. in general, he nurtured, he promoted him. and, by the way, many in armenia believe that, in fact, he led to this war and he led to this shameful defeat in order to hand over the boxes and tell the armenian people. are you saying that's what he said during the elections after this war? you

if you want war then vote for kocharians for the heart of sargsyan you want peace, but the armenians voted as if against the war for him, but did not get the war. here it is in september. why did the armenians turn to the dkb and the security council to raise the question, azerbaijan is constantly advancing in the artemis region. they have already gone to the lake. sevan is in dermuk. they went out to sarah. there they went out. it's just stupid, there's a whole row. that's where they're trying to break through this corridor and so forth and also take more and more territory. so what, pashinyan says what his strategic task is, he also says political forces and the media oriented towards him.