in argentina, vasily dmitrievich, the great-uncle of alexander zhulin, worked on one of the most expensive cars of that time, while there was a clipper. generals eisenhower drives such a car in europe of a dimensional life, the car was in demand only among very rich people, since at that time it cost a fortune of 5,000 us dollars. having replaced the american pack kart clipper with the soviet zil, alexander zhulin's great-uncle vasily worked in a special purpose garage until the end of the seventies, he did not allow a single emergency situation on the road. there were no seat belts, because the

driver of this limousine, he must have such qualities that there were no emergency accelerations, emergency braking, when there were cases when a member fell to the floor during braking. the driver is no longer working. alexander zhulin already knows enough about the life of his ancestors in order to figure out how to proceed. then he goes to the site of our program. the archival fund of the russian federation is a great variety, if you have collected information about their ancestors at the place of residence. continue searching in regional and central archives. this is where older documents are stored. they will help you trace the history of numerous administrative reforms of the russian state, the village of tyunish was

transferred several times from one county to another. but now all the documents relating to alexander's small homeland are stored in tula and he goes there with his father. alexander will have to find out what the zhulins owe to the landowner khrushchev, for what reason it is allowed to shout in the tula archive and what was the name the founder of the zhuling clan? the state of alcoholic intoxication, and who does not stretch for some? seriously? what signal do you need to give so that you understand that it is better not to mess with people like me. there is no abuser who dreams of being a normal person. what do you want? new episodes tomorrow after the program time for our sex life,

gifts are waiting for me the famous figure skater and coach alexander zhulin continues to study his pedigree of the vtuli. he has already found many new relatives. tula region learned that his great-grandfather could lift a cart along with the horse and learned to dance on the pedals. tula glorified the whole world russian samovars, gingerbread and accordions, and tula guns have always been considered one of the best in the world, tula was founded as a fortress for the defense of southern advances, but even when the borders moved back, the city always found itself in the thick of military events at the beginning of the 17th century. time of troubles. tula was already captured by dmitry here, he was waiting for the fall of

moscow after the great patriotic war, tula received the status of a hero city. here they like to erect monuments with a samovar, gingerbread, accordions, not let's ignore or louse, shoeing a flea the tula arms museum is one of the hundred best museums in the world. the news that the figure skater julin was researching his pedigree reached tula before him, and the unchanging silence of the archive was blown up by the enthusiastic cries of his employees. i know that you have just returned and the archivists have already prepared such an interesting document for you. this map was created immediately after

the abolition of serfdom in 1861, a little later, the abolition until 861, and the map was created in 1866 . right here on this map. you just see those possessions and the village itself, which da tyunish, which your ancestors lived in the first year emperor alexander ii abolished serfdom according to the tsar's manifesto, the peasants immediately received freedom. but the land had to be redeemed, or within two years to work out the main duties of corvée and rock , such peasants already endowed with land, but not yet worked out. it was called at times, this status lasted until 1895. here is the river berezinka, and here is the village itself. and here are the fillings. yes, i see something. here is babushkin

grandma's house was somewhere around here, so we ran to the river. here, through these meadows well, if we return to 1861, yes, then some part of these lands was allocated, then your family was allocated to the serfs by the ancestor of alexander, the landowner, khrushchev, who owned the tuner. here, in the archie, a parchment letter given to the khrushchev family by grant was stored in 1757. to be stunned like this for so long already at reckoning to the nobility of the tula province. going through documents one way or another related to the history of his family zhulin managed to reach the 18th century. they found a mention about, whose ancestor can be considered the founder of the family eugene he was a son. ivanov

it is clear that the father was ivan yes, who was probably born around 1700 there, what about the seventieth year? yes, here it is, as it were, the extreme branch that we found, but according to the documents. well , let's consider the founder of the family, here ivan ivan lived in the second half of the 18th century in the village of tyunish, tula province, alexander zhulin's five-time great-grandfather. thank you very much, thank you. i learned so much new things, and in general, alexander and his father return to moscow in order to sum up the results of the study, but there another surprise awaits them, alexander zhulin, receives the result of a dna examination, it turns out that the skater belongs to an extremely rare genotype for russia, as it turned out, ah, my

distant ancestors 5,000 years ago were not slavs . well, that is, like the slavs, but they somehow mixed with the italians. that is, italy is where they lived, my distant ancestors, and even earlier 10-15-20 thousand years ago. these were my ancestors from the middle east and the caucasus. how is it, of course, i was amazed, to be honest. but is it clear now? why did i want to live in italy and buy there, maybe even a house or an apartment there? it’s absolutely clear to me, maybe it’s not by chance that it was in italy in turin that alexander zhulin’s triumph took place as a coach, his students tatyana navka and roman kostomarov conquered the world with their impeccable performance olympic gold in ice dancing after a long break returned to

russia here, look mamul that we found here were not all from tyuunizh, almost everyone lived in the village of tyunesh. and when we arrived with my father, we thought that, in principle, we did not find anyone there. we are coming. we are waiting. uh man 15 people who just us our relatives we uh my cousins ​​cousins ​​mean uncle. and dad, too, was, of course, and such a warm welcome was given to him. it’s just that when you find relatives, of course, it’s a completely different feeling, that is, it was really very warm and pleasant, and everyone is very big with

big noses, that’s all, and that’s such a breed. she looks like she really is. you look at people and understand that you are a relative. well, in general, like this, of course, now this is the whole story. it is very pleasant to have and i think that i will pass it on to my children. and how would it, of course, we did a great job. not that i'm afraid of old age, but the questions does happiness depend on age and how to feel harmonious, not paying attention to the numbers in the passport. of course, i think that, like

many of you last year, along with the heroes of the program devoted to books on the age of happiness, we were just trying to figure out if any the advantages of old age over youth and is it true that with retirement, life only acquires new colorful shades, the heroes of our today's program will only continue this topic, because they are convinced that after 50 comes the most magical age fulfillment of desires of choice and, of course, movements. instead of an apartment in moscow, a mobile home instead of a stable job, searching for new routes and interesting places, they are sure that after 50 you need to do what you really like to realize dreams and not be afraid of anything after retirement. they have come up with their own way to travel practically for free ever since.

they go wherever they want, and when they want, don't spend money on tickets and hotels. in addition, a free life provides them with everything they need and allows them not to work. they are convinced that the person chooses. how can he live in retirement, watch tv on the couch or explore the world looking out the window of his own motorhome. alone with all pensioners travelers and adventurers victor and svetlana zhukov hello victor we are glad to welcome you to our studio. uh, please sorry that my very first question will be, it may not be very delicate for a woman, but since we have such a topic about age, about how you can meet him, is it sad or joyful, and that means traveling or at home on the couch. how old are you? i'm 57. so all of you admit it yourself. and how much we will torture you, they seem to have noted 55.

and how many years does a woman retire at 50 at 50 , in my opinion, dad, but i’m right a year before retirement, already 54, well, approximately, that is, earlier . well, it's just that circumstances happened victor nevertheless. eh, got it. well, yes, there, in my opinion, 45 pension. uh-huh and there, in my opinion, he also worked a little as a civilian and that's it. wow, let's go free. yes, that's what it's called. that is, it was not a sad prospect for no, it was, as it were, a conscious choice, yes, and you have never been scared at all. the thought of old age. no. now, if we thought so, then, probably, we would not have chosen such a lifestyle, we would not have succeeded if we were afraid of old age, it seems to me that this is one and the secrets. how can you be afraid of what? naturally, it is necessary to find some charms in this, and charm is freedom, it costs a lot. so what is it

for you, i don't know. yes, he doesn’t know, and god forbid, i understand that you, in fact, are trying all the time on wheels, as it were, the more the better, when for a long time this life choice happened to you on wheels. well, as soon as we met, that's what happened. as long as we met 30 years ago, he served in the orenburg region as a lieutenant of the classic. we just got to know each other. we are in a house near moscow. he's here on vacation. well it doesn't matter how it is, how they got together right away, how they decided to get married there, but the most important thing is that he bought his first car and from there from the orenburg region. came here. well, how to get married, but i didn’t want him to drive alone somehow, maybe i was worried, and i flew there for my fiancé to make this journey from the orenburg region with him on a zhiguli car. yes, there to the orenburg region and from there. we

went to moscow with him, that is, we reported the beginning of your everything, yes, and then already hmm zhiguli and so on. actually, at this castle in moscow, we realized that it was pleasant to spend time like that, that is, we realized that this did not bother us. and we like two of these movements. you see, they generally like cars and like to drive. this is very important in this sense, i was lucky. but the road doesn’t bother me, but sophia likes some comfort, don’t like the change of impression, that you see a lot of things? that is, even if there is an opportunity to go where it is by train, let's say you have a rest in russia. we'll drive anyway because we like the experience what happens on the road you can see the road usually you know how people have such an idea about the road and about cars. well, yes, that oh, on the contrary, fir-trees-sticks. well, yes, if you are forced to go by car, then god forbid, then the wheel will definitely break through. so his oil will flow out and think, then it will happen, and that is the thought of the material. and if you think that everything

will be fine with you, then you will go from orenburg to moscow simply without any julia, even if it breaks through in some luksk bor base, this is practically the russian bermuda triangle, then in some there is a person in the village who has a spare tire, just for our wheel this happens all the time. tell me, please, here, who is victor by profession, i understand. well, that is, we do not specify, but it is clear that the military specialist, so to speak, the leaders should be who they were. well, i can also say that the classic was a soviet engineer before i met him, she worked in it. we safely left with him to serve in the orenburg region. well, the other child was born , they returned, when they returned to moscow, he went to the academy entered, then, then a new career. i went to a publishing house and started working for journalists, then as an editor, and already i finished my career as the editor-in-chief of the magazine and you left this job. yes, yes, they said no, no. here she works as an editor-in-chief. yes, it's always a responsibility. this expansion of society

is a very strained pipe. yes. here i am, after retirement, you could go there as a civilian, you could just have a career, but realizing that when you go to some kind of leadership position. yes i i understand that this is a responsibility for people. this is responsibility for the job. this is responsibility. for this i. it's like, let's say already drunk. yes , i would like to answer for myself. seems like it should. yes, it seems like well, what to do, yes, what to do, but on the other hand, i really didn’t want to, that’s my question, you know, that’s a modern person. he lives in a non-stop grip of fear of responsibility for uh tomorrow that i now make such a decision not to finalize there to satisfy pensions. and suddenly it won't be enough. and suddenly you come - well , how would you, as a man, not be afraid of what kind of future you have there tomorrow waiting well, in

principle, yes, of course, on the one hand, as if you understand that money still owes were coming from somewhere. yes, here. well, here again, the good thing is that we are, as it were, pensioners. yes, i have a military pension. well, quite good, more than civil yes, look, too, how would a pension be now, that is, two pensions, in principle, taking into account that you will go hungry and live? yes, here what you are going to eat. i have enough for it. this may be the main fear. why don’t you suddenly know yourself, you will starve, there is something like this. and she removes pensions, whatever she may be, but she is not quite, but she is not quite small. that is, as it were, the main aspect there, that the pension would be good, that is, there would be a smaller pension, well, we would be looking for great opportunities to increase money, we think so, but circuses still do not go beyond this fear. now i understand what you are talking about. as you think what qualities you need to have in order to push the wife apart, so to speak. it's good to have one. how are you. yes, i'm a good

wife. i'll explain why here you are at the base, all the same, i was also going for a long time. here after the next issue of the magazine. right now. well, i'll leave. i don't want to, how to start and thought. that was something to travel and at the same time some more money, to have enough something you need, well, naturally, the strength of your profession. i thought that it was necessary to write to shoot a video, to offer some magazine and everything. here with this idea. i left thinking it will work. it was a leap of faith. and that's why i'm wife, because you see, they offered a deal with a civilian career completely unfamiliar to him, and i figured that a person comes to the team. he works. he needs to educate himself to gain knowledge to make a career, what he will face in the current conditions of competition, which in fact, this will then affect his health. well, because it is at this age that completely new ones are being mastered. here and there indeed again there is something to obey somehow. so i said, do not answer it is not necessary to live somehow. health is more expensive. don't need this. we

'll figure something out for you. so and so, what did you save up for? the only thing, as i understand it, is to improve the car, yes, and you find it. yes, that's right, there's no inside. well, it means there. uh, the main thing is that there is a toilet, uh, shower, hot cold water. sleeping place with additional bed gas stove. uh, fridge freezer. uh, living room this data alone is big there is a dad. yes, yes, there is a solar battery to show the siege, we are in pots and dill parsley to pinch it. yes? no , i always take it in stores and water the garden. uh huh awning that actually pops up. it was you see, it's not a dream. that is, in fact, this is the result, as they say, dreams do come true, if you are thinking about what, what will you get over

time? here you will see her dream come true. how many years has gone by? that's how much it's gone. as a result, also with the course of circumstances, such becomes favorable and or people go to the meeting, that this is happening, although according to some objective mathematical data, there finances could not be fused by this. that is, it works. and you mean, even at the age of 50, for the first time, you started skiing near the liver. yes, in general, i am grateful to a friend who pulled us into the elbrus ticket. there, a military base like this was pulled out from us and they immediately began and that's it. that is, yes, you know this, everyone who gets up everyone sits down, keep in mind. if you are afraid, it is better not to get up for the first time. and sit down immediately. it's a very mountain attraction. this descent, this wind, this adrenaline, a person needs adrenaline about people, they say. if you hesitate, don't get up well, as if, do you think that in general, uh, so to speak, there are such

daredevils who are many of them, or rather, such daredevils who, uh, will risk trying something new. let's start eating, of course, people. i want adrenaline, there is a need and someone decides on something, someone with a parachute and, by the way, adrenaline work too. i am i read somewhere that adrenaline is needed so that the body does not age. i think it's true that life after 50 tastes like fresh air. very those who are afraid of age. i don't know what old age is, when you retire, you know? that everything terrible is behind victor and svetlana zhukova, in general, i have the impression that, in general, this is a way of traveling more characteristic of young guys. well , that is, students who want to save money throw off together rent, there is this motorhome and so they are before, have you come across the fact so that they look at you with some such surprise

, they say. oh, and you travel too. in russia, too, maybe he asks, and there, probably, all pensioners have motorhomes, it seems that this is a whole movement, but you will not see the youth. that is how your more in comfort, either they work more pensioners with cats with their dogs. and take out the bikes. and just like others, and let's go. here we met many. there are such epic pictures, when you are two cars, one pair the second here they go to the seashore, they have some harmonica play the harmonica and sing. it happens, that is, they are enjoying life, it's true, and now you are also on bicycles. you say you always take bicycles with you gradually. gain some experience, looking around, what people are doing there more to see at wherever we stand, we untie. and whether it's paris in the capitals on a bike, you'll see more, whether it's some kind of

coast. yes, but here you are, knowing that you will come to visit us, you decided to talk with young guys of 18 years old about how they are present. e your fiftieth birthday there or after 50 years, what do they think about this topic. let's listen to them. you are over 50 you are retired and a writer my books are published in russian english and french i play with my grandchildren in the park on a roller coaster, children squeal and yell hooray and i hitchhike through russia kazakhstan mongolia with my children. make enough money for my job to become. well, a hobby, not a means of survival, and i hope to devote more time to the family to travel. maybe i am i think that i will devote most of my free time to myself to somehow engage in self-development, read a lot and do things that she didn’t have time when she was young. what

is possible after 50, but what is impossible in 20 a lot? sweet now, in general, everything is possible, it seems to me that everything you want can be done at the age of 50. uh, you can't be a maximalist in the army and look for the meaning of life. it's time to stop looking for it in rice when you realize that you can't look for it. it's impossible to find 50 you can't wear mini skirts not a man, me women you need to absolutely calmly go jumping on a batutik, and at the age of 20, braids will look at you 50 you will be watered. can you be naked on the street ? everything is the same as at 20, but at 20 you don’t know what to be afraid of, after 50 the worst thing is to lose touch with your family. i think to be afraid of the fact that i have not achieved anything in common even for 50 years. in vain they didn’t have time to do something, and not to

say she dreamed of becoming an astronaut. and just became a security guard there not to see half the world, probably a decrease in old-age pension, that is soul old age. that's what i'm afraid of, i want to always stay young, letok up to two hundred is something to be afraid of, after 50 it will turn out. i do not think so. it's amazing how close you are. i would say with this generation it's time to jump on the girl's trampoline, because no one will watch coffee anymore. i noticed that you covered your head very much when one of the girls remarkably said that at 50 you can do everything the same as at 20, only you do n’t know this at 20, really. it is necessary now, and young people, to think that they need to strive. here is something to choose already think about it and pawn. at one time we laid, as it were, the foundation. we thought somehow at home. they are no longer so easy yes, they changed and

you will see, there has always been this idea that when we have freedom so that you can travel safely. well, that is, it was such a goal that was going systematically, there was me and the car. well, and so on, that is, but everyone should see for himself, while he is young, he works fully. and what does he need by this time, perhaps, and still strive for freedom, because yes, if there is freedom of movement in time. it seems to me this is the basis of happiness, as if here is the freedom of movement in space in time. yes, unlike those young guys with whom we talked, who are basically not afraid. uh, old age don't think about it. maybe there are even other young people who are thinking. sometimes their age, so to speak, is intimidating, and one of them was. a photographer from st. petersburg, yulia titova, who even became so interested in this topic at the age of 2. she was only for everything when she was, and became interested in this topic, which she even spent some of my own investigation and made some such art project, made documentaries about it. now we want to

contact her. hello julia. i just wanted to, uh, ask you, why, in fact, at such an early age at 23 years old. you were so frightened, perhaps, by old age that you became interested in it and decided to somehow explore it. when i was 23 i graduated from the university, and the university in my opinion is a turning point for many young people, because for many years and to something get ready get ready. first you go to school to go to university, then you want to go to university to get a diploma and you don’t think about what will happen next. and so, when i graduated from the university, i realized that a lot of things are already behind, and i don’t know what’s ahead and i’m already 23 years old and it seemed to me, so i’m old , that is, they updated the problem, they realized that you are old, that need to address this issue. and that was for me. so much of a shock. i realized, lord, looking at the freshmen who came to us in

university, that they are 17. and i'm already 23 and what have i achieved at this moment. it was such a strange state and then i talked to those who were 30 and they told me what are you, we are old, you were only 23 then they thought. and what do people feel at 60 and 70. yes, i talked to those who were 17 and a friend told me, what are you, a girl , it’s too late for me to start making music, i’m already 17. and now i have this question what is old age, and i realized what it is when you think it's too late for you to do something. and so she spent her some research. we conceived a documentary film. uh, and decided to address two audiences. the first is youth. ask them what, how do you see yourself when you are old and ask the elderly people themselves of all kinds to find out what it is like to be old. what conclusion did you actually make. here is from this

study speaking to one and another audience. well, we concluded that, in principle, no. unconditional such a state as old age, it is insanely subjective, that it is very much depends on the person, first of all, depends on the attitude towards oneself, because some of those people who were persuaded to save up for two things, some saved up for travel, and others saved up for funerals and were exactly the same at the same age, and we understood how important it is to feel that you are. well , you have a lot ahead of you, that is, to motivate yourself on your own. what are they dreaming about? who do they dream of become. and so to speak, portrayed this dream, as i understand it, people are well over 50. why so? well, i wanted to take a photo shoot about it, and i realized that older people, as a rule, do not become models. that is, in society there is such a cult of beauty and youth, as if, well, this is the

only thing worth striving for, and i knew that this was not so, because i see my grandmother and then i found exactly older models and interviewed my surroundings. what do you want to be in 50 years and we were all about 20 years old then, respectively it turned out that in 70 years. they want to be. that's how it was displayed. it's in photography. there, someone goes in for yoga, boxing, someone rides a motorcycle. well, that is, these are the most optimistic assumptions, the last question for you. so, where do you want to be now to 50 years from now? but i would like not to stop, i have been involved in charitable projects for the last 5 years and would like to dedicate. that's your old age completely this, a pleasure. well, for me it's a pleasure, a journey travel, of course. in general, i never think that this is something out of the ordinary, that we all need to travel and the elderly, of course, also yul, but is there any old age at all, that's what you

say about this. i think that there is old age, and there is old age. and someone manages to remain in old age just like in age, but for someone, unfortunately, old age comes to him. thank you very much yulechka good luck to you. stankevich see how he meets only with me. by the way, you heard that they soak their boots in society so easy to hurt. today we will witness a match where dynamo moscow will fight

and the opportunity to play, i don’t know if he can walk 11 silent men premiere on november 4 at first they know the secret of a happy life. would n’t it work out if we were afraid of old age, it seems to me that this is one of the secrets of retirement is not a sentence at retirement, in principle, given that we are so you will starve and ask, dig. they were not afraid to change their lives, how can you be afraid of what? naturally. must be found in this is some kind of charm, and the charm is freedom victor and svetlana zhukov. relate to the fact that, uh, you took a chance like that. okay, you are brave, but there is someone nearby who, like the older generation, is always afraid to advise another. yes, what in the dc my mother, thank god, chewed, you see, alive for both elderly

women, and therefore this is all, this. yes. and friends also supported the son supported. well, the son is also an adventurer from us scored a little bit. and by the way , if you are such avid, travelers from the moment you met. how is the son? he is with us so traveled in the car in the car. starting from the fact that he was still in my stomach, i had traveled to everything there for the seventh eighth month. he began to walk in a car somewhere in the chelyabinsk region , there is no way to walk in a car, otherwise he got out, but they took it to the grass, like to sit. he got up and went somewhere it was like this then, of course, they drove around russia, you always drove. he somehow started to swim with us and that's it. that's somewhere out there in some lake, ah, which were passing by. yes, he well, he poured into another. that's been traveling since then on he no longer wants a car without comfort. now he travels somewhere to book there, a hotel and so on. this is mine, unlike you. yes? he's just, uh, yes, not comfortably beaten, but these

impressions have led to the fact that he is a good photographer. here is the thrust. he, firstly, he rides a lot on a bike and with a camera at high speed he has such a yes, but on a bike out of the camera he takes good pictures. how about your maternal fears, for example, no, they were not included. oh, the child will get sick on the way. oh where are we going. ouch, will catch a cold. oh, good tool. i'm stocking up on a pouch of all sorts of medicines just so they'll never come in handy. here you take it, you never need it, as soon as you forget the pill. i need it, i take a bag, it's always a ritual and glory. we do not open it to god. uh-huh tie it solemnly. yes, just like warm clothes in the summer, well, with me just in case there were no frosts. yes, this is a very good sign. listen , if suddenly someone wants to go, then the pills are with you, so that they are not useful in the summer, so that frosts did not happen, you need to take warm ones with you, and in winter swimming trunks. well, so that it gets warmer yes, really,

no, seriously. yes, we really, just in case, were lying. we, if we go in early april, we take skiing and swimwear with us, because in early april we will ride somewhere in the alps. and we live downstairs, of course, not in hotels there, but in the parking lot below, it's warm, and there is still snow after we ski. after that we descend into the valley. uh-huh to the mediterranean sea. well, there's a plus or minus even if it’s cold, we’re already swimming there anyway, then tell me, selling a moscow apartment and buying in the moscow region closer to the mountain slope, just outside moscow, but some kind of house, apparently, as i understand it, this is also adrenaline no, this is a dream that we are talking about thought for a very long time. everyone gathered, periodically returned to opportunities, no matter how they went, just looked in the moscow region, chose without any means for this, you sold the moscow apartment, because you did not have

the opportunity to purchase, so to speak, if there was one and not or or or or what, still limited funds and yet, so to speak, a pension. this is the main thing that you didn’t have a state, as if we had money and an apartment there, with which, uh, we got it from turkic witnesses. yes, we gave it to our son. as a matter of fact, yes, that's the very one who bought there a day, we are good, brother. eh, with the holy brother, he sort of helped us, as if he bought a slice of an apartment here, and we bought it with this money. well, it's just that people do this, but if there is a moscow apartment on they value it, they try it in everything. well, somehow, perhaps, it can be handed over, but the main thing is not to lose, but if not then there is no way to acquire. we were like when we sold it, we lived there, so my mother was in the country, we lived in my mother’s apartment, which means that there are some things there, which means there were some things in my mother’s apartment that were hot in the motorhome.

yes, in the apartment for six months. we lived like this while we were looking for where we could stumble. as a matter of fact, well , naturally, we found that we didn’t worry about what we wanted. sincerely, if a person likes life closer to nature near moscow why he leaves moscow i understand who goes to work every day. that's all. well, you ca n't be afraid of purchasing an apartment. i worked for her. worked worked. how will i part with her? well, you are your quality of life, you come there for you better children. and we said that in general i am not attached to any material things, so to speak, especially to do. there you can’t do it with your hands in the car to anyone. i want us now to watch another story, the hero, who, perhaps, is with you similar in that he also believes that no material wealth and social even

status does not matter compared to the pleasure that you can get from life. let's listen to him. this is alexander galitsky. i'm 58 years old. uh, and somewhere a little, not reaching five years. i radically changed my life and i regret only one thing that i didn’t do. it's before. he worked as a graphic designer and was in charge of a large department. uh deserved to be a director at a large firm that was engaged in the release of computer training programs. well, i’m such an independent person by nature, i decided that it’s probably more correct to just arrange my own life. since i want to no now, as it were, that is, she has been for many years, yes, and there was written there the director of the director, everything is there. and when you call on the

phone you mean like there's a big firm behind you behind your back. yes, and you imagine yourself, respectively, with such a noble bass, when you become the director of the leader of the circle, this is a kind of. probably in overall such a shock. i would like you to take a small part of this. so i say, he is 13 years old, he decided this hammer. i'm probably the same beaten on the outside too, only such strong friends when they asked me to try it for the first time. that is, i was working, then they told me, come on, try, take one group of old men. i said that this is complete nonsense in general, that it’s like, firstly, these people are old people, old people are sharp instruments. in general, people who can't do anything. they see nothing, they hear nothing not very enthusiastic about this idea until i tried it. what happened to you?