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good evening, there is a big game on the air, and these days we are witnessing a really big and very dangerous game, the hybrid war of the united states and its allies against russia has come close to a dangerous line, beyond which a new level of escalation is reached, whether it be the use of nuclear weapons or direct military clash russia nato russia by all means. tries to convey to the west the seriousness of the situation and to prevent what, if it happens, will become irreparable today , the russian ministry of defense described in detail that the kiev regime plans to undermine a low-yield nuclear weapon in order to accuse russia of using nuclear weapons russian foreign minister sergei lavrov today pointed out to the british regime that this information is not an empty accusation. and that russia is going to raise this issue in united nations secretary of defense yesterday
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. of russia, sergei shoigu held telephone conversations with his colleagues from the united states, france, great britain and turkey, and everyone expressed extreme concern about the plans of the kiev regime to commit this provocation, which i emphasize once again is fraught with the transition of escalation to a qualitatively new level . of the general staff of russia valery gerasimov, the reaction of the west was not long in coming today to the government united states france great britain issued a joint statement accusing russia of lying and said they were considering russian statements about kiev's intention to create and use the so-called dirty bomb. as a cover , the desire of russia itself to use tactical nuclear weapons in ukraine. here we will discuss this situation, a very alarming situation with the president of the center of national interests, dmitry simes,
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who is in washington and dir. departments of information and press official dmitry maria vladimirovna, representative of the ministry of foreign affairs of russia, maria vladimirovna zakharova e dmitry maria vladimirovna good evening hello maria vladimirovna well, many people compare the current situation with the caribbean crisis sixty years ago, but i would like to emphasize that then there was a willingness on the part of washington and even a desire to diplomatically resolve that crisis . and it happened today. here's a situation. it seems to me ambivalent on the one hand. we all see the reaction. e united states france great britain on the other hand. today, sergei lavrov said that some interlocutors suggested discussing russia's information about the dirty bomb, and i quote at a professional military level. so in the end. here you see diplomatic opportunities to prevent what could become irreparable. i think that this is a question for political scientists, historians
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, narrow specialists. by major to smaller conflict e you know on the scales, using a variety of historical weights to compare situations. i would like to talk about the facts that will allow this same expert to draw their own conclusions, which looks like a lot. the waters have flown under the bridge since those times, about which you spoke and indeed. it seems to me that there is a very important link. and it’s better to say it ’s gone now, which perhaps, indeed, then played a very important role. i understand very well that politics is definitely not a clean business, that it is very complicated. history is a very complex heterogeneous substance. but still, as
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historical experience shows us, it is very important that people who occupied? the dominating leading official positions, and even more so, led the state in their message in their life paradigm in their election program. still, there was a reliance on morality. and yet, initially they did not reject morality, as simply something completely unnecessary, as waste material, so that somewhere, even if not in the absolute, they aspired to these yes, high, but so vital concepts. remember what happened to the president of the united states of america who then showed political the will to detente from the western world.
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remind me that these were not my words, that these were your words. he was killed, the president of the united states of america was killed, who showed the political will to detente with those who in the west were considered an implacable enemy, an enemy with whom it was supposedly impossible to negotiate. and he agreed, i'm not saying now who was right and who was wrong . i'm just stating the fact that then the world managed to go through a very difficult period. we can talk a lot, then we crossed the red line, we walked up to it, it doesn’t matter, historians, let them judge, but managed to overcome and demonstrate a responsible approach. but
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the president of the united states of america is the one who is now showing footage in newsreels. he's killed the reason so far. as you probably know, the political establishment of the united states knows everything that is going on anywhere in the world. they are well versed in the situation inside the russian federation what processes we have good bad they are ready to deal with taiwan from the situation around taiwan they are putting things in order everywhere africa latin america and europe, except for one, they do not know, from what the president of the united states of america died, only he did not die, but he was shot dead in front of and live on the air of a multimillion-dollar world audience. this is about the fact that these same people, this very political establishment of the united states of america, just like that, from the threshold, rejects the information provided by our specialists,
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which turns out directly on world-class security issues, that is, they managed in a second. analyze it and make conclusion that it is not true, sorry. you don't even know who killed your president. you may still work on yourself and allow yourself and your specialists to analyze information that concerns global security, because for nuclear energy for radiation there are no borders that it would cross on a passport with a visa or for some reason permission. this will affect everyone in the first place. secondly, to the question again about how the united states of america that is, of course, is not a question of americans as a people. this
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it is very important to understand, they are so far from the decisions that the political establishment makes for them. what is it, as you know, like the earth and the sky, what is happening among the american electorate and what is happening in the bowels of the bunkers. eh, so to speak, american political research - these are things, as a rule, not in contact with each other. there is a link there. you know, the adapter between the government and the american people is their media, which work with a clear link with the american intelligence services establishment. call it what you want. so, to the question of how they can easily reject factual information, and i will remind you. april 2013, i think that dmitry knows what i'm talking about instantly, because it was a shock to the united states of america. do you remember at the beginning of the 2000s the united states went through
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a colossal tragedy when the two towers symbolized the united states of america of their economic power. and in general, development fell due to the actions of terrorists. in front of everyone. they were sure that nothing like this will ever happen and here is the april 2013 famous boston marathon. the level of safety and security at this event, how do you understand the highest this is the united states for the thirteenth year, everything is under control? everything is in the hands of the security services and a tourist act happens. why did i remember him? and i think that dmitry also knows why i remembered him a year before. russian specialists and representatives of special services come to the united states of america. i know this not from textbooks. i don't know it media i know these people and pass on information to my
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colleagues, american specialists, and the tsar's brothers about the tsarnaev family and they say that they have strong suspicions that these people are somehow connected with terrorist activities. they ask american colleagues to pay special attention to this family. they transmit the data they have, what they hear in response. we'll figure it out, we'll sort it out ourselves, what are you talking about? it doesn't matter. here was the answer of american experts to that information provided by the russian special services. sincere sincerely for real. sincerely wishing to prevent a terrible development of events, including, of course, in our interests, because all the chains are connected in one way or another. and now a year passes and the information that the russian side provided by sending its specialists to the united states was
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ignored and led to the victims, then , of course, the terrible began to look for enemies, of course, in all the media. then the russian appeared. trace of this attack. they immediately began to link things that were not connected, and no one considered it necessary to remember what russia had warned. you look at how attentively and with what gratitude we always pay attention to the information that is transmitted to us, including, by the way, by western intelligence services in order to prevent any development of events in this direction. who gave the right to these people now who, by and large , even occupied the power of their countries, which we can rightfully call regimes, many of which were not elected, let alone by direct voting. and as in britain, you see what is happening. these people are not
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subject to any popular discussion at all. who gave them the right. it is so arrogant to once again reject the most important information that is provided about our continent, because on this continent not only ukraine and not only russia are all the countries of the european union. britain can leave the european union as long as it likes, it cannot leave our continent, it is part of europe. an example of what we talk about endlessly, what we shout about, that we want to convey the endless manipulations by western regimes , an endless political superstructure that, in its unhealthy state, controls the facts , controls the real information. i can give you one more example. right now we are hearing from a
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lot of people in the west. you are demonizing zelensky, he will never be able to do this, this is a man who has chosen freedom, democracy, western values. this is a person who is under a protectorate. west how they are fine now literally an hour before your before your program before the broadcast. i saw the news that an unnamed employee of the pentagon or some american intelligence agency, in my opinion, the pentagon is not a named employee. in response to a question from an american journalist, he said that, of course, the kiev regime does not have dirty weapons, meaning this very dirty nuclear bomb or dirty nuclear charge , and, of course, they will not bring anything. e in motion in execution and so on unnamed employee. well , if you are so sure of this, you will call us. excuse me. mr. kirillov today
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directly appealed to the world community himself, did not hide behind any journalists and no leaks, and provided the entire invoice. so here is the main line. it's not even protection or defense. and here it is again manipulation. the west is that hmm zelensky their boyfriend and their boyfriend will never be able to do this. and now i’ll remind you of the beginning of the 2000s, which we talked about, the twin towers are the worst tragedy in the history of the united states of america, which completely turned the course of their history changed, the united states of america became a different country. it became a country that put freedom in second place, and put questions of its own security in the first place. who did it? maybe it's aliens. maybe these are some original enemies, the united states of america. no , they have become enemies. that's only when these
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towers were formed, and before that it was their guys. these were their friends. these were people who lived , worked, if you can call it that, on their money, who killed others from american weapons, exactly the same thing is happening now zelensky, i'm not afraid of this word call it what you want, my personal opinion is a metaphor. if you want zelensky for the world community, this is just bin laden number two, only in a caucasoid guise. this is probably even scarier, because he is fed folds many times more than then it happened with bin laden and the scale of what he does and the same stubbornness that he shows to his own citizens to the people whom he calls his own people and territory. and what is a territory, these are
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cities, settlements, civil infrastructure. never before has the very terrorists who became the number one evil for the united states of america done this to their people. that's exactly why maria vladimirovna i always say that the current situation is more dangerous than the caribbean crisis, but i hope that the possibilities for diplomacy have not been exhausted dmitry we just said one very important thing. uh, addressing what happened. e april 2013 e you you know what the russian country did, and i know a little what the american did, and for the sake of justice, when is the information about the tsarnaevs. uh was handed over to the relevant american services. there were ber people, and i know this from themselves; they no
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longer work for vera. there were people who believed that this was a serious signal. uh, they say they didn't get it. uh, enough detailed information to arrest someone, to take some immediate concrete action, but they got enough from their point of view. information in order to organize a serious investigation and to ask the russian country additional questions. and they were told no, you can’t do this, because somehow people fled from russia and as a result of russian persecution of the chechen people, how can we cooperate with russia in the persecution of such people. and if our agents appear in russia and ask such questions, what does
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it mean that we are working together with the fsb and a political decision has been made? uh, do not do this. well, how did it end? uh, we all know. and you mentioned that the russian intelligence agencies also provided information to the american country. and it was the cia, and you know, probably better than me, and president putin spoke about this, that in moscow they used this information and prevented terrorist attacks. this is a perfect example of how ignoring this kind of information leads to tragedy and using this kind of information allows tragedy to be prevented. now. uh, as for mr. zelensky, maria, i am now i will cite only those facts that are based on the american press, not rumors. and the fact that this is established is not russian accusations. this is not
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an accusation of some ukrainian pro-russian position, this is from the american press. and zelensky sanctioned naturalistic acts against russia about this, er, and about this. uh, there were leaks to the american press from the white house and the cia, not from moscow, but from the white house and the cia, and again, zelensky, of course, gave permission to strike the crimean bridge, and under zelensky, operations were carried out to strangle, uh, crimea uh thirst eliminating the possibility of water supply to the crimea do you remember the story with this famous aircraft, which the ukrainian authorities. uh, they tried to intercept and imprison them, and they invited, under
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false pretenses, some russian military specialists who were told that they would be sent to venezuela, and they were going to be arrested in ukraine. it is natural to accuse russia of organizing a provocation. remember mary against whom against belarus here. this is what we know, this is undeniable. this is what is sanctioned at least at least zelensky or maybe he didn’t just sanction, but gave an order, and therefore i want to ask you, russia brought these serious data, uh, by the head of the united states, uh, great britain, france and turkey, at least at the level of defense ministers and foreign ministers . i understand that, of course, in telephone conversations, it must have been difficult to provide detailed persuasive information, but i would expect that here, given
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everything we know about mr. zelensky, his methods. i would have expected that you would not have you personally only and russian officials would be asked for additional information and said, bring the facts. and we'll figure it out, we asked you, and today we already answered this question. russian foreign minister sergeevich lavrov answered globally not with the press at all, but he commented on this situation and said that there were some such manifestations of interest among specialists from that side. we note and are also ready, for our part, to conduct appropriate contacts. it should be clear to everyone, but any questions, we are both ready and we will give all the answers about this, whether the specialists of our ministry of defense and the chairman of our ministry of defense spoke about this, the ministry of
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foreign affairs, this is a position that has been confirmed more than once. this is, firstly, if i absolutely agree and, in fact, we are almost in unison about this. they said that, unfortunately, the problem is that politicians in the west dominate over the facts and over the real profession and experts and experts. this was precisely formulated completely on the example of 2013 , when the information about a possible terrorist attack or some kind of extremist activity, simply with the designation of specific characters and the transfer of data, was ignored not because there were no specialists on the side of the united states of america who could take this information seriously, but because politicians in the united states the americas blocked the possibility for their experts and representatives of the american intelligence services to develop this topic jointly with russia
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and, in principle, as we later understood, they blocked in general, any investigation until april of the thirteenth year with this information, because otherwise it would be necessary again. how we started with this program to demonstrate the possibility of not just negotiating. not just hear each other absolutely. normal constructive joint work of the two countries is not only the special services of the two countries, and this would simply break a huge number of political myths on which people built their careers, and we know these people and you also know these people, therefore, in this sense, i am absolutely with you i agree, another amazing fact, and look, we are now constantly hearing the same thesis. you , too, with reference to the american to the american now information and political environment, dmitry said this, but it is said that you can only
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trust the information received from russia. this is reliable information. and suddenly, the topic continues to develop. of course, i ask you to forgive me, but i will remind you for many years the decisions that were made in the west in the context based as about. officials spoke. excuse me, even the leaders of the nato states on this slice on the information received first from the white helmets, let me remind you. these are people posing as humanitarians. just pseudo-non-po, which was sponsored by american money. that is, they poured money first. and by the way, they also supplied equipment for political support. i'm not talking about this very created organization, at the head of which, that is, the spiritual caregiver was e, a former representative of the british
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special services, but we understand that there are no such things as former british special services. eh, merelie. remember one that later under mysterious circumstances. he died and so the white helmets became, the supplier of the very reliable information in quotation marks, on which decisions were made by the legislative branch and the executive branch. by the way, speaking journalists endlessly ba. their materials were based on this information in the west. and the second thing that has become again such a basis, you know. here is such a fount of a well made of cardboard, facts were obtained, again in quotation marks, as from e, a magician's sleeve, it was an observatory for human rights in syria a. she is based. you remember where she was based in britain in the building of a certain pizzeria, that is, here she was registered. approximately there once again, i repeat, the observatory for human rights in syria, located in the building of a british pizzeria in london
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, became a supplier of reliable information in quotation marks for decision-making and further enumeration by politicians and diplomats, by the way, representatives of the same international organizations on the situation in syria fraud manipulation endless juggling second moment on ukraine for many years, by the way, this was about the democrats of the united states of america, uh, kerry was the secretary of state, american policy was built, they spoke about it publicly on the information they receive in the context of the situation in donbass from social networks. the same same story with the malaysian boeing , everything that was connected with accusations of russia of using it. there, illegal means and so on
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on the territory of ukraine, links endlessly went to social networks, an american delegation came and spoke. we charge you with this in this in this in this question. and where is the very texture with which we could work, if we are talking, for example, and some information that was worth checking, they say, like where in social networks. and yet you dmitry also said a fantastic thing. according to, well, i don’t know, representatives of some politically influential corps of the thirteenth year, there were not enough materials, there were not enough materials for a full-scale investigation, the information received from russia was not so deep reason to give this data a truly nationwide character. this does not mean to condemn them. a start a good funded study then. it wasn't enough. here listen was not
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enough. uh data, not enough reason not enough. scale. can you imagine, but in order to start the persecution of the republicans, led by the gangway, there was enough reason to name the people who came out, and at the demonstrations who came out with protest moods. in connection with their disagreement with the holding of presidential elections, the united states had enough will of reason and arguments, to call them internal terrorists. and we're back to what you were talking about - political pressure, which simply leaves no room for professionals to work. that is, what, unfortunately, the united states of america did, among other things, from diplomacy at its end, they simply put it on. they began to dominate politically, putting diplomacy in the state of just some kind of semi-servant, silent staff
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who cannot say a word about international law regarding those obligations that not only everyone else has, but the united states in the first place. probably if they e assume themselves to be some kind of leading power. this is the worst thing, what we call political conjuncture. so you probably don’t know politics there, as such they set the tone and put things in order, where specialists should work, what should be done now, the united states of america because now britain should do france, they should put aside all their affairs. they should sit down at the materials that the russian side voiced and transmitted during telephone conversations in public and analyze it, because it is under their direct supervision. now i'm talking about the anglo-saxon duo, and another monster has grown through, which is now on the verge and pushes this world to the
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most dangerous line. and everyone understands this, both the people who are there and the people who left there. it doesn’t matter where they went to the territory of the russian federation, whether they are in the four regions of the new e of our country or whether they left back, they perfectly understand how dangerous the person who is now the president of ukraine is from the point of view of his inadequacy, and i think that this is precisely what should be decisive in order for the thought process in the west to finally start. maria i have a slightly different question for you to change the subject uh, but in russia in the uh west they tell the whole truth, i'm sorry, i'll interrupt you, but not because i'm not interested in talking about other topics, but simply , because it
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is you the main topic today is a pressing topic. this unprecedented topic. you understand, i understand, unfortunately, how much the american media have learned to ignore the important life-formers they have learned. it's just that you understand to turn pages, cut out frames, unnecessary ones, you understand to come up with some kind of distracting manners. they are, unfortunately, in this podnatorele. they've just been dragged along over the years. well, actually we are talking about unprecedented. and the fact that we, by the way, in general, have never experienced. let's think about what it's about country permanent member of the council the security of a country that possesses nuclear weapons technologies nuclear technologies that are the leading country in terms of the
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development of scientific development peaceful atomic energy transmits to the world information that the state is headed by people who came through, including coup d'état. perhaps in the near future they are preparing and have already launched a number of steps to carry out provocations with nuclear technologies, evidence of this, in addition to what the minister of defense and the minister of foreign affairs spoke about affairs of the russian federation, in addition to this, we all have. everyone has a proof, after all, for several months they purposefully fired at the zaporozhye nuclear power plant. this is direct evidence, not indirect, not secondary. this is direct evidence that they are engaged in
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nuclear blackmail, and when they failed to achieve what they apparently decided on for several months, they moved on to another plan. and i will repeat this information again. the russian federation transfers to key countries in terms of acceptance, kiev regime of decisions and instead we immediately see such an answer within just a couple of hours, you know, boorish absolutely not, filled with substance, but you know, executed in a propaganda vein, a little one, but some kind of mashka concocted, uh, by the foreign affairs agencies of western countries, which are completely divert the international community's gaze in the other direction. this is the key moment in this story. they are trying to take the international community's gaze
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in a completely different direction. look, let's i will try all the same a second time to divert your gaze, a little bit in a different direction. well, in general, quite similar to an unprecedented question, and information was received, including from the american press, that the 101st division. this airborne division was just transferred to romania, and now, listen to what i just said, according to himself, the deputy commander of this division in e. brigadier general ranks please listen, brigadier general and deputy commander. division john lubas recently said that this is not a training deployment, but rather combat deployment. and that his troops must be ready for battle. tonight , in case the situation on the border escalates, his soldiers are three miles from the ukrainian border. well, maria, i have to
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explain. uh, the consequences of this kind, perhaps the alleged transfer of the 101st division to the territory of ukraine, without declaring war and despite the fact that the united states administration is saying that they are not going to participate in the war in ukraine. do you like these statements and what do you think about them? well, these applications are coming in every day. only uh, they may have a different shape, but they are about the same thing, they are about the supply of weapons in unheard of quantities. well, it's just happening, it all started not only in the twenty-second year. so you understand the impression that, uh, well, the townsfolk, perhaps those people who somehow managed to escape. uh, attention to the situation
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around ukraine. maybe they don’t know, but people who deal with international relations cannot but know that the bases let down and let down for many years around the country and the corresponding system was deployed and left the agreement, which tied their hands and limited their ability to take such steps and declared their own exclusivity. they say that they are no longer connected by any, in principle, necessarily. to whom they owe nothing , ukraine and other countries were pumped up with weapons to the maximum and carried out countless exercises. excuse me. these are combat exercises. it's not just some machines they put in for working out, maneuver. these are warships. this is military equipment. these are people who are not lovers. don't forgive me, just instructors
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talking to some students. these are the real forces of the nato regular army, and we talked about this constantly and we demanded an answer from that side regarding their intentions, and we proposed to negotiate in order to remove, as politicians diplomats experts say, concerns, that is, to return to the bosom of mutual security guarantees of each other guarantees that we were ready give. so there is nothing new in this situation. no, this is what we have observed over the years, we have not observed silently, we have not observed passively, but we have done everything in order to use diplomatic political methods to prevent. this, as we all now understand the western scenario, the strong point of which ukraine has become well, uh,
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here i, frankly, i want to argue with you, because i see something new in this statement, which dmitriy quoted, namely this new thing lies in the fact that in the west they have become subject to discuss the possibility of starting a war against russia, and this is perceived, this is positioned as because i will answer this with facts, again. well, whoever doesn’t want to understand, he won’t hear or see, even when it’s written and said. well, this was written and said by the european union through its own mouth. the leaders of those people who express, well, as it were, expresses, but one way or another in their functional duties. it is written will. of all the countries of the european union, they said several months ago that only on the battlefield, only through hostilities. who hasn't heard it. well, probably, if you allow yourself to divert your gaze in the other direction, then again you could engage in this pseudo-false-pacifism. but we hear it and
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we see it, that only the battlefield has no place for negotiations. only the victory of this western world, and domination can provide them and so on. therefore, in this case, of course, there is certainly a new situation on earth, but its course was by no means sudden. it started not today , not yesterday, not a month ago, not six months ago. this undoubtedly. we're climbing the escalation ladder. i fully agree with you. they rise on jose barrels. yes, they talked about the need to defeat russia on the battlefield, but the biden administration, and dmitry also mentioned this, constantly emphasized that they did not become, in their opinion, a party to the conflict. they will not enter into russia with russia in an indefatigable war, but will continue the hybrid war. and now this report from the cbs channel. he is talking about the fact that the american
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military is the 101st division of the russian federations in the united states of america for each here is a statement that the united states of america allegedly does not want to, nor are they joining , said that the facts indicate the opposite and cited these facts and said that there are things that themselves are for themselves testify to who is or who intends to become this very side by all its figures, therefore. again, all this has been said, and all these red lines have been repeatedly drawn. what worries me is that the united states is beginning to be an acceptable he will be able to discuss a direct military clash with russia since it will be a third, world war. and this is not only a channel for itself s although its pathos is quite obvious that they can enter the territory of ukraine into a war with russia, but also such figures as the former cia director david pats.
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ah, the famous, so to speak, american general also said that under certain circumstances, the united states and the coalition can enter into a direct war with russia . worries me. here i will not say the word disturbing, so as not to be repeated, but i, frankly, still can not. eh, perhaps to convey this idea. we talk about this every day. and you can talk about direct direct involvement, maybe , but whatever you want to call it crooked attraction, but it’s the people, it’s the country, it’s the regime that supplies, and the zelensky and kiev regimes for billions of dollars in weapons. forgive me, not defense, but offensive means allocates colossal money to stimulate this very one, including
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extremist activity, about which dmitry spoke, this is the same forgive me, already a proven fact. no, you can. as much as you like, record zelensky in e, a foreign audience that will say that he was misunderstood, but you understood him exactly the way he said it. he spoke specifically about a preventive nuclear strike on our country, so as not to wait. well, as always, he tells this story to the kremlin in case russia hits the bank, but we see long-term eq. the activities of the kyiv authorities the people of ukraine and those people who, under the guise of statesmen named, being simply occupied ukraine. that is the question, these are people who came to power not through elections of different elections. we are now already seeing how the west is manipulating openly electoral electoral processes. but after all, they didn’t even get there that way,
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they came through two one after the other more bloody state anti-constitutional coups. and if now you, and you know it even without me, but now i am more appealing to dmitry, if now someone muster up the courage and show himself cnn fox footage of 14 years on the maidan after all , no one there now will believe that this is peaceful ukraine of the sixth year they will tell you again. oh, this is probably footage of these bad kremlin-sponsored militants. it's not. it ca n't be these uh, so to speak, parents for democracy. no, maybe that's how the power changed. it is under these most burnt tires cocktails. molotov beaten. not just stones, but trucks with cobblestones changed
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legitimate authority on those crooks who brought the country simply, well, to the situation, who and the catastrophe in which ukraine is now . look, this is the path of democracy, as they call it, everything else was strung by itself. it was a general plan that we talked about literally every day, that there was no smell of democracy there. because something went wrong, but because nothing could go wrong when power changes in this way. this, then, had to be brought under cover. these are, as it were, folk protests. and what kind of people are these? these extremists are well trained, coached in the baltic countries and in poland, by the way, in poland, first of all, under their cover, it was necessary to bring those. who would be ready to move ukraine to the edge of the
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abyss, which, in fact, they did dmitry well, as for general petress? he, of course, is a very famous person, but i wouldn’t take literally what he says, maria you know his history well, he became famous for the team when he commanded a division in 2003 during the american invasion, the enemy really commanded the division well, but he also commanded the journalists with a beam, because he placed several of them, including the famous tv presenter body, copol with his division. they glorified everything. but, and then, when he already became the director of the cia after he did n’t succeed, when he commanded troops in afghanistan and he worked with a girl who, uh, was involved in, among other things, his biography, and he kind of dealt with a little girl . uh, and uh, not just
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dealt with it, but, well, in some traditional bible. but he also helped her creative work, providing her with materials - this is all established and recognized by petren himself. provided materials that were classified e he is a man who lives off his publicity and due to the fact that he says sensational things that are hard to ignore, but i understand him as a human being, we are all in some least we live on television. well, in general, he will say, so he goes from my point view some line. well, you know, maria, you said a lot of very important things, one that gave me a little hope, that after all, like, uh, the foreign ministry assured that the facts that the russian country has, that they will look at them at an expert level, but i wanted to ask you a more far-reaching question, there are, uh, all these
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facts about the possible, uh, nuclear weapons of ukraine, there are facts, uh, ukrainian terrorism, there are facts about the 101st division, which are too many. at a distance of 5 km from ukraine where they are fighting and the deputy team of things this division says that this is not a teaching. if they give him an order, he will go, and this completely contradicted the allegations of the baidn administration that they do not want a direct confrontation with russia. well, tell us, well, is there any serious dialogue going on between russia and america? are there any official or some unofficial channels that you could mention to compare to the caribbean crisis. we, as it were, could also say, well, that there are some negotiations, some processes that help us
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you know, i looked today to prevent a crisis, and in an interview that us president biden gave to american journalists, he spoke with such great confidence that he was physically and mentally healthy, which is encouraging. are you saying that his elemental physical health compensates for the lack of dialogue? or is there still dialogue? i mean, he insists on it. well, he insists that he still has gunpowder in his flasks, so, and you ask me a question that you should, in my they were supposed to ask the representatives of the american authorities what they think of themselves there, and where is the decision-making center there and who informs whom and who consults on what is happening? i understand very well that there are electoral cycles and now the entire united states is preparing for the
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next electoral spurt. we all understand this very well that the divisions will be transferred under this and the retired generals will be engaged in modeling, different things will happen, there will certainly be regular, but loud. uh, criminal cases in opponents, well, everything is fine, what will happen is what is considered to be in america. outlawed only when it happens in other countries. for some reason, they never do anything about themselves. uh, the depressing blame is never seen or noticed, so a lot of things will happen now. i believe that u and you confirm that this factor is an elective factor november can not be discounted, that is, now any resources will be thrown under it, the stakes are too high , we see what is happening in the white house is complete, so say e disorientation of people who came there
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to work, who leave it in a hurry, who leave all their projects, abandon everything that they talked about 1.5 years ago. we are well aware that they need any support in the public space, which only they can find from their voters to somehow consolidate, and their parties. in order to make this breakthrough, we all understand this very well, but still the question, in my opinion. would be fair. what's in the white house? happens, and who makes the decision there, and who calculates these decisions? we say again, we go out with an open visor. we say how we see and share the facts that we have, we do it, we do it publicly through the available channels. we defend our position, and on the other hand, if we talk about london, this is the endless manipulation of stories through the media, not a single direct
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statement. you won't see, only through the leaks. and what about the white house? well, i also think hmm, i don't need to tell you this. this decision, which is taken in refutation of previous decisions, is the absence of a coherent concept of what is happening and this is an orientation towards internal electoral processes. in it, i want to say again any sacrifices are ready to make in order to take this one as they think. now the grand prize. and what is going on outside the window of the white house, what is going on in the world, what is there with nuclear safety. remember what scarlett said in gone with the wind, and they'll think about it tomorrow. the last question, well, after all, we know that shoigu, uh, talked to the austin minister of the beard with a person who has contacts. uh,
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high-level, uh, between the foreign office and the state department. here is dmitry, we did not interrupt these contacts. here i want to reaffirm this. although, in my opinion, we talk about it, we almost every day. you see all the handsets of the phones that ring, we take, we do not block the relationship to the conversation connections with our partners and with those who remained partners and all of whom we can no longer do this to call and with those who have never been them. we are ready to conduct negotiations with everyone, talks and so on, this question is not for us. we did not provoke this whole story, we provoked it systemically. so exactly prudently, without thinking about anyone or anything, including, as we now see, the west did not even take care of itself, but deal with another manipulation, another
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provocation, so this question is not for us. you see, as soon as we have information that concerns the safety of everyone again i repeat. after all, you understand, because in many ways this will sound absurd for you and, probably, for our audience today, because you and i taught all these things at school at institutes and universities. mm. i don't know, in your case, probably colleges and so on. well, through popular science literature through documentaries . we understand perfectly well what is and what is radiation, it doesn’t matter in that volume, not in that volume, as you said, nuclear weapons, but we are not talking about nuclear weapons in ukraine a-but nuclear technologies that can be combined connected with, so to speak, e fuses or with some, and the battle with charges and then the battle may appear a dirty bomb, a dirty, nuclear bomb.
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we understand everything with you. here is the most terrible most surprising thing for us that the audience in the west does not understand. what is this about. it's just a matter of education level. well, we see from the same london that for things and for directions related , among other things, to the security of their country, there are people who cannot just connect two words, because they are bad in rhetoric, because they they just don't understand. what they are talking about, here is a sheet of times, in my opinion, demonstrated and once and for all closed the topic of british education forever. we all now know what it really is, that's the problem, that to discuss really engaging in the culture of canceling tchaikovsky dostoevsky georgiev right now, you understand, they tried to cancel gergiev and tried to cancel gergiev
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, you understand, he will wave his baton. and he will cancel anyone once and for all. they don't understand the scale of the problems. they they will be engaged in some kind of tweet, some kind of pulled out phrase of someone and talk about the fact that this is a universal problem, but when they are provided with information that people brought by them to the west. yes, despair at this very bank can apply. they don’t consider it necessary to notify their population in such a terrible car that will get everyone into such a terrible car. well, how not to spoil the general holiday of their own dominance. that's the problem, that this is just the first question - the lack of a basic understanding of education or just knowledge among the population about what is at stake and the second manipulation of the media
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, which will inflate the problem out of nothing and at the same time not see the problem. where she is. and joe biden, uh, did another very interesting interview this weekend. he said that yes, the united states is giving a lot of money to ukraine, but it is not so much the radio of ukraine , but so that russia cannot win. and it is precisely this policy, that is, the orientation towards defeating russia, thereby restoring e, collapsing american dominance of the world and brought us to today's line. and we really are standing at a very dangerous line, behind which, and not just radiation, although, uh, the death of tens of thousands of people is certainly a tragedy, and behind which is the violation of the nuclear taboo that has been holding for 77 years, behind which is the threat of a direct military clash between russia nato russia united states, that is, the third world
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