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and why were you going to look for me? who are you ? well, and today, of course, the main day of the g20 themselves, which took place in indonesia and russia there represented by the head of the ministry of foreign affairs, sergey lavrov, in addition to speaking at plenary events. lavrov held talks today with his chinese counterpart ivan and his turkish counterpart. uh, mevlut shaglu and

general secretary. he is antonio guterish, as well as short meetings with french president macron and german chancellor scholz, the official agenda itself was devoted to the main global economic problems of today. these are food and energy security, as well as health issues, but of course the red thread through all multilateral and bilateral discussions were held on the topic of the military conflict in ukraine chapters. and the most dangerous conflict today in terms of risk in a global war and the epicenter of the hybrid war of the west against russia , and the decisive conflict for the future world order, and many participants in the summit called for an early transition to a political and diplomatic settlement, but there were also those who strongly refused this, however, not from among the members of the twenty, and we will discuss those statements that today in bali the focus was on the ukrainian conflict, as well as the prospects for the

united states policy on this issue with dmitry simes, president of the center for national interests, and dmitry andreyk, vsesefovich, mgimo professor andronik migranyan. good evening. good evening. dmitriy well, on the eve of the west himself, he threatened to isolate russia at the summit. e in bali well, as the western press wrote, even today, no one is somehow special during the speech. lavrov did not leave the hall more than that during the meeting with the minister and where he was told by the chinese foreign minister that russia plays an important role in the g20 format and no one has the right to take away the right to participate in multilateral formats, including the g20 and even the final statements of the summit, as russian foreign minister lavrov eventually said today to agree in the form that the condemnation of russia on behalf of the twenty did not work out in the final statement, but two votes were recorded

two positions in relation to, uh, the military conflict in ukraine that is, it turns out it was not possible it was not possible to isolate russia. but, uh, this is not because they did not try, they tried very hard and the results were not impressive, but they should not be underestimated, because if you look, this is how they voted for the uh resolution at the general assembly. it, which was adopted yesterday, how they voted for this resolution, but about compensating ukraine with reparations from russia, let's see how they voted, you will see that, firstly, despite the incredible pressure, again, the collective west does not managed to gain a majority of votes under some resolution there were more votes, and for significantly

more than against, but nevertheless after the totality. those who didn't vote, uh, and those who abstained along with those who voted against they had. most look a. first of all, it is a collective smell. and secondly, these are, as putin said, the inclined countries that depend on this collective west , of course, these small inclined countries were not in the top twenty. and uh came there the collective west has become, in general, one front with one voice. well, if you want, it didn’t work out what they considered the most important thing at the g20 to isolate and humiliate russia, and you’re right, because lavrov had important meetings and the leaders of

germany and france talked to them and didn’t leave the hall during his speeches. everything is pure truth, but this is how we see the collective west arming ukraine. so we saw the collective smell does not want even the g20, which was created entirely for other goals, where the economic issues of the energy sector were to be discussed, but they were supposed to talk initially, at least the fight against epidemics. all this receded into the background. was the main one. this is the struggle of the collective west against russia, and this cannot be underestimated. this speaks to what russia is facing in the international arena. there should be no illusions here. as for the situation in ukraine and around ukraine, of course, uh, russian assessments are

completely different than those offered by collective smell. let's see what he said about this in his speech. uh, mr. lavrov of the european union, nato has long been a hybrid participant in the hybrid conflict of the hybrid war in ukraine, and this is the supply of weapons and training, the training of military personnel , this and uh, help in providing a huge amount of intelligence to this participation in the definition. and goals, as you know, the americans are doing this work of instructors on the ground, not to mention thousands of mercenaries. i reminded you of what i i just told you that all the problems are on the ukrainian side, which categorically refuses any negotiations and puts forward conditions, uh, that are obviously not realistic and inadequate to this situation. we have repeatedly

confirmed through the lips of the president that we do not refuse negotiations. and if anyone refuses, it is ukraine, and the longer it refuses, the more difficult it will be. ultimately, it will be an agreement. well, dmitry is the statement of the minister of foreign affairs of russia, she. i think it sums up a lot. good russian position, firstly, russia is not at war with ukraine, but russia is at war with the collective west. there is a division of duties, there are no regular units, and nato does not fly into the territory of ukraine, uh, in the sky. uh, the united states and british pilots, these functions are performed by the ukrainian army, but there is an unprecedented level of coordination not only coordination, but joint military planning for the exchange of providing ukraine with the

latest intelligence data, including operational ladies in direct mode, which are simply they help direct ukrainian artillery, which is also provided by nato. the united states alone is already providing ukraine with almost 20 billion, 19 billion dollars of military assistance, while saying that, as it were, ukraine makes its own decisions. ukraine could not make any of its decisions about the war with russia if it were not a part, if it were not, uh, a sharpened spear of the collective west and when ukraine refuses to negotiate in this situation , putting forward. as rightly said lavrov is obviously not realistic demands, then, well, the conclusion involuntarily suggests itself that the west says that washington is talking about the need to find peaceful

solutions, but so far it is not ready for a real serious belt and so i wanted to ask you andronik in moscow , i heard a lot, especially in expert circles. that in general there is no need to worry much about this unity. west because it will be cold, maybe even a little hungry. uh, winter, that the masses are ordinary people, that they will not like this situation, that they will understand that they are suffering because of ukraine, and then political pressure will begin, especially in europe, on the governments of their countries to take a more flexible position. do you agree that such hopes are justified and that, especially if they are serious enough to build on them, uh, the russian strategy for ukraine. you

know, i, of course, agree that what is really happening. the energy sector, now the last strikes against ukraine, are taking this country out of the sphere of energy self-sufficiency altogether. while they are still provided, in my opinion, their neighboring states from eastern europe and therefore it really takes place to be small, that, not only in europe, er, here. i've been watching since this morning. uh, unexpectedly, instead of cancer carcinoma, turkey gabbard performed, just tell me who the former is. uh, congressman now uh, she left the democratic party in protest, she thinks that this party is leading america in the wrong direction, she is captured by all sorts of radicals, and in general a

woman who is in such very correct positions. approximately as an example, today's minister italy, uh, motherland family god well, something like this and she also says that in fact it is in the past at our meeting she says that the form. it can't be. just today , she was saying again that the republicans in the house of representatives will indeed no longer allow money to be given just like that. eh, without reporting it is not clear what it is spent on. where does he go in conditions when american society needs a lot of people on its own . uh, in general, financial injections, completely different areas, and it is in the interests of the american society. you know? the only thing i must say is

that of course, we must keep this in mind, but at the same time, i think that we will see just that. eh, how it will be very interesting. e, even i would say illustrations of whether unmarried europeans really are completely out. and when they really have a lack of warmth, a lack, a lack of light, a lack of that other third, they will really show their civic qualities that were once very popular in europe. i want to tell you more specific questions a little this meeting. here, uh talking to people in moscow very different, i got the impression that there are, if you like, certain differences in the reactions between them,

so to speak, tv experts, many tv experts who rely heavily on how the rotten west will corrupt itself. and what i heard from officials who said that such a scenario is a scenario when the west, as they say, will not show fortitude and will begin to retreat and show flexibility on this basis. what is the scenario is quite possible? and what is needed for him of course, hope and if possible. we must help him to make sure that this winter is not too easy, but having said this, i was struck by some kind of well with the officials. i'm not afraid to say the correct thing, but some kind of stalinist stalinist will and patience, no matter how it turns out. russia will be ready to

deal with this, and that both the economy and politics and, of course, first of all, the country's military equipment will be built in such a way as to be ready for the best. and to any scenarios i'm wrong dmitri in connection with this, i would like you to remember stalin. i would like to remember that i did not mean to praise lenin. i'm talking specific drawing. me during the war. i just said you remembered not praised. and i want to remember lena and we must hope for the self-decomposition of the west, and i think that here we see serious trends towards this, but as vladimir said, there is even the weakest government. it won't fall if you don't push it, so we

have to push it. this is also what you said in some form, we must push the europeans and americans to in fact, they did not think that, uh, so that life would not seem like honey to them, and russia really has a very high level of patience. e, regarding the collective west, but dmitry, you understand that this, of course, is not forever, and it depends, but on the policy of the west, and so i just wanted to ask you about the prospects for this policy. well, really, and ukraine is the main tool of the hybrid war. west against russia - it's absolutely uh, true, and many at today's g20 summit were in favor of an early transition to a policy of diplomatic settlement of this conflict. among them, sit on the render mode even manuel macron. and of course , sergei lavrov, but

vladimir zelensky spoke with a very sharp dissonance against this background, who turned to this person himself via video link and showed a pre-recorded speech. and listen to what he said. i need to offer ukraine compromises with the conscience of sovereignty with its territory and independence. if russia really wants to end this war, then let him prove it in practice, it is obvious that the words russia cannot be trusted, therefore there will be no minsk three years. russia must confirm the territorial integrity of ukraine, withdraw its troops from our territory and make compensation for the damage caused. after the implementation of all anti-war measures, a document confirming the end of the war must be signed by the parties. well, in this way, zelensky just actually spat in the face and the leader of the hand of china and the leader of india and even the president of france, who also called, uh, for an early peace settlement, but for me it is quite obvious that such an emotional speech by zelensky is largely due to the

signals that ukraine has recently received from washington, where it is not only semi -hints and leaks through the media, but also openly , but they say what is needed. uh, use the winter to switch to diplomacy , uh, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff said openly. and mark miller, which, by the way, also caused a very disturbing reaction. e in kiev but at the same time the signals that come from washington, they are contradictory. now, if miles e, calls for an early political and diplomatic regulation, then the same biden, and yesterday at the same g-20 summit, after his bilateral negotiations with e. with this singing, he repeated, in fact, all the mantras of the united states that there is nothing about ukraine without ukraine, that we will support ukraine for as long as necessary and that only ukraine and zelensky should decide. actually, when and under what conditions

to switch to a policy of diplomatic settlement and today sergey lavrov commented and in his press conference the final and speech of vladimir zelensky and let's listen to these conflicting signals that come from washington. zelensky spoke for 20 minutes, it was impossible to interrupt him, because it was a recording, apparently they didn’t want to turn off the recording, but from his speech. i deduced you not so much one conclusion that he is not listening to any reports of western soviets that supposedly the americans are preparing these negotiations rumors constantly pop up, and also with the same success, then disappear. we are no longer responding to this. we want to see concrete evidence that the west is seriously interested in disciplining zelensky and explaining to him that this cannot continue, that

this is not in the interests of the ukrainian people and himself. dmitry, will we really see serious and indicators that the west is disciplining zelensky can these indicators and evidence appear after the midterms, not only after the midterms, when a new house of representatives will meet, it is already obvious that it will become a republican uh, dmitry, i didn't mean, uh, patience. uh, if by it we understand that the russian people, and, even more so, the current russian government will endure something endless and turn the other cheek. i had in mind a completely different kind of patience, which is called strategic patience. this is the strategic patience that was worn out during the great patriotic war and which allowed him to maintain it. optimism and perspective you

even the most difficult moments do not hope for a miracle and hope not for mistakes and not for the weakness of the enemy, but hopes for the measures that were taken by the soviet government so that russia would definitely be able and therefore obliged to win. and now, if russia shows such a will. that naturally makes an impression on the other side. and if in washington they start talking about flexibility, it is because they begin to understand something in the russian character , they begin to understand that some things that were clearly not planned, in the best possible way at the beginning of the war, that some unpleasant moments, but for the russian army, which definitely took place. what you do not understand, the russian government and the russian people, that they are ready to

resist this, and i, when i was in washington, i heard a lot. uh, like a huge number of young people deserting as well. you leave some other countries do not want to fight. i know there are still such, as i understand it, much less, but there are much more of those that go to recruiting stations to do their duty. and dmitry i found more people, personally, i found people. who become volunteers. and people with a good education are people who do not always and not blindly guard power in everything, but people who are beginning to feel more and more. that their homeland is in danger and they want to be part of the salvation and

exaltation of their country. and now, when there is such a reaction, not only the authorities, but also the russian people. the same is reflected in how russian troops fight and washington begins to developed by competent people. first of all, the military people. healthy respect for how the russian army is behaving now. only he doesn’t think that everything is working out, but much more than before, and most importantly, they understand that russia cannot be intimidated, and that it will be very difficult for russia to bend and russia does not brandish nuclear weapons to intimidate someone. they are trying to attribute this to her, but russia has nuclear weapons in the west too, which is why washington is especially asking the question. well, if there is a moment of uncontrolled escalation, before what it will bring and this is the first question that is

on duty. the chairman of the committee of chiefs in general mile it is not that he became, as it were, a supporter of russia, he is a competent officer who thinks responsibly, and the survival of his country and is absolutely right, the republicans will clearly now win control of the chamber. and uh, they 're going to have a tiny majority, but it'll be enough for them to uh control congressional committees on their agenda, who's going to chair, and i don't expect them to pass a resolution right away. let's leave ukraine to its fate. when will i start looking at what american money is being spent on in ukraine, they will start looking at what american priorities this money is being spent in ukraine and will start looking at who is not given, because the image of ukraine that was created in the

american press in the american congress does not have significant relation to reality. this is some combination of the victim of auschwitz and the arleans virgin joan of darke in the face. e gentleman from zelensky minimal analysis of the minim. pulley an analysis of what is happening in ukraine will show that all this has nothing to do with how ukraine really lives and is governed. and that's when all these factors will start to work. i don't think there will be a revolutionary turn in the american approach to the war in ukraine, but i think that's when the basis for a serious dialogue between moscow and washington will appear. understand the real state of affairs. and i i mean, of course, general mile. uh,

chief of the joint chiefs of staff dmitry excuse you for a second peru i want to remind you that secretary of defense general austin is also a very distinguished general, who uh, well, really a combat general, and i have not dealt with him since he became secretary of defense . well , i ran into him. during his previous career, and he is certainly a team man he does what others expect him to buy for him. it's a matter of honor, but he is a competent person reasonable. that’s exactly what i’m talking about, dmitry, because i said that conflicting signals are coming from washington, and to a large extent these conflicting signals are related to what is inside the biden administration. clearly, there was a split. there is no single point of view on how to proceed further with regard to the ukrainian conflict, and the situation is absolutely similar to the one that

was in 2011 in the administration of barack obama in relation to the libyan war, and when the military a wing of the administration represented by secretary of defense robert gates and the head of the then- joint joint chiefs of staff committee. michael malin opposed the use of force against the gaddafi regime, and the political wing is entirely in favor, led by hillary clinton, now the situation is similar and more and more evidence it was this split that the new york times wrote about this a few days ago. politics magazine wrote about it today. let's listen. while some senior national security officials and strongly believe that now is not the time for negotiations, especially after kiev was recaptured last week in a strategically important city, others tend to think that winter

opens up an opportunity for diplomacy. the beginning of winter gives a chance to discuss a political settlement of the conflict top military leadership believes that it will not be easy for ukraine to fulfill what its leadership has declared. the goal is to achieve the departure of the russian army from the occupied territories. this will be particularly difficult to do in the crimea occupied by russia in 2014, the state department, meanwhile laying the foundation for future peace talks between russia and ukraine, said a us official. without giving details, the us national security council is most opposed to the idea of ​​negotiations, despite the fact that a number of aides are privately calling for moscow and kiev to be brought to the negotiating table. well, in this way, if you believe the politician, it turns out that the council of the national security jake sullivan is the chief hawks. and uh mark mealy and lloyd austin uh, the military wing of the administration are in charge. well, if not the doves, then the most responsible

decision maker is the mother drake. what do you think about this? i think the question here is for me, at least crystal clear. we must help. that wing in the american administration, which looks at the situation soberly and can take a decision accordingly. how can we help? this is very clear and understandable for me too. most. the main thing that is required in this situation. this will be a great help to both kiev politicians and american politicians. this is a serious success of the russian army on the battlefield, as soon as there are serious operations that will show that there is talk that russia can do it at all. destroy and generally break and, well, erase well, i

don't know, i don't want to use it. there are some different words. this will become obvious. it will become obvious in kiev it will become obvious in europe it will become obvious in washington now, then, of course, americans are no longer easy. so you know, little johnny would be nice to start negotiations anyway, or it's wet. well, who will take seriously the macron, who runs back and forth, but after such obvious failures in the ukrainian army and a radical change in the situation. then they will have to save the remnants of what remains of ukraine or ukraine simply will not exist, that is, it will not exist yet. with this real threat, both for kiev and for washington and europe, real actions of some very effective, as it were, a statement or

there will be no pressure on kiev and zelensky from our western partners. well, there's a certain amount of pressure to say, it's jake sullivan who , uh, the politician's magazine wrote as a hawk. he still exerts and exerted on kiev, after all, sullivan came to kiev on a secret visit, and demanded that zelensky take a more flexible position regarding negotiations. e with russia a. then sullivan held consultations with russian high-ranking officials. i have already said the obvious results on the battlefield. actually, everything else these are conversations. today russia has shown. actually once again. uh, military potential. well, i must say that, and in the same publication of the journal politics, a hint is made that it may even be. and they themselves and other employees of the national security council are not so, but unambiguous

about the need to continue the war. listen to the official statements of us officials, their personal opinions do not always coincide, the american official said. millie is just much more willing. says what he thinks dmitry ah dmitry i know jack salavan very little, but i know him very well, if i may say so, because of the comrades and people with whom he worked and studied. i mean forests golba, and the former head of the council of international relations and now living and very active and, uh, in several cases, participants in the program of the city professor gremelesan and uh. i do not know what i said, but, unfortunately, i died a few years ago about the current position of the byte administration. but by the way, i learned to work with him very well and considered him

quite young, when still much younger, but i know one thing, that these are people who belonged to the realistic school, and who like not like looked at the facts and believed that the facts may seem very unpleasant, but it is impossible to ignore them, or at least there will be a big price, and so i go back to what you said andronicus again, it's unfortunate that you said, in fact, that in order for russian diplomacy to become truly successful, there must be appropriate dynamics on the battlefield. this unpleasant. we all want the war to end tomorrow and for the west to have a wonderful country. well, this could be it. i would n't count on it. i look at the behavior of

lavrov, who has patience, who has the ability to take a hit. but of course, uh, lavrov who uh talks to his colleagues can be said to be opponents, if he talks to them from a position of relative weakness, this is completely different than when he talks to them from a position of strength or at least at least when they feel that russia is doing something that will allow it to change the dynamics of the war, and therefore, it seems to me that it is very important that in the west. they understood this, that the russians are shaking arms, that russia is not going to lightly, but to threaten someone with its nuclear warheads, but that in russia, at the head of russia, there is a steel will to defend

itself and do what is necessary today. and that this steel will is not isolated, but rather supported. by the majority of the people, and now, if this understanding in washington will be the third its point of view and to better conditions for the triumph of diplomacy. it seems to me that we are systematically moving precisely towards this scenario, precisely towards this outcome dmitry andreevna sergeevich thank you very much for the conversation, as always, very interesting. and we'll be back in the studio in a few days. on the day of his brother's death. my father immediately called the duty officer, the cia and directly asked if this nightmare was arranged by your people oliver stone's film premiere next sunday on first transfer

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what where when the winter series of games on sunday after the program time in the big game big bookmaker wenline general partner of the russian premier league big game already said before the break that many participants in today's g20 summit called for an early transition to the political and diplomatic regulation of the ukrainian conflict and among they turned out to be french president emmanuel macron, who today held a bilateral meeting with chinese president

city ping and together with the children. actually called for the cessation of hostilities and the transition to diplomacy, which, by the way, is a rather serious challenge to the position of the collective west. true we have already agreed that there is no single position of the collective west. and even within western countries, including within the united states, there are different approaches to how to proceed with regard to the ukrainian conflict, nevertheless. yes, this is quite a big success of china. this is a big big fnl. yes from the side of the macron in relation. united states and other nato countries but sergey lavrov today answering the question about the possible role of europe in settling the ukrainian

crisis settlement. listen to what the minister of foreign affairs has to say. no, it's hard to judge. eh, the alien soul of the darkness and especially the soul of the european union, the darkness is very thick there, if they sometimes disperse, then not for long, therefore, as i said today, there was a brief conversation with president macron, who confirmed his intention to continue contacts with president putin in order to find some agreements that would resolve the whole situation, as he put it, but i reminded you of what i just told you that all problems are on the ukrainian side, which categorically refuses any negotiations and puts forward conditions that are obviously, but not realistic and inadequate to this situation alekseevich, you share this healthy moderate skepticism of the minister

foreign affairs regarding the role of europe yes, i share this skepticism. it is possible to characterize it in different ways as a healthy moderate. and this is just a statement of the fact that there really is. and i think that, uh, maybe to some extent this skepticism. e sergei viktorovich increases exactly what the macron says about this, because it is unlikely . uh, now the interlocutor from whom they expect. uh, really serious signals. lavrov met with him today, as well as with scholz. well, we generally have a polite foreign minister. and like all the time says our ministry of foreign affairs. we do not refuse any contact. uh, russian diplomats maintain a dialogue with everyone only for this, uh, expresses readiness and ability, therefore, of course. i met, but over the past year,

it was the president of uh france who discredited himself in many ways, and uh, they certainly meet with him, but i think that there is an attitude to his words. uh, things have changed over the last year, it cannot be ruled out that u now uh, maybe, as there really are some glimmers of sanity meaning. yes, there at the same mokron, and he understands that everything is not going where he would like, but there are big doubts that he can jump off the transatlantic american hook. and besides this, this politician, so narcissistic, is so much a politician, focused on himself and his personal role in world politics, that it cannot be ruled out that, in general, he speaks not in the interests of the cause, but in the interests of his personal political career. his reputation international.

vision, and there is no reason to play along with this and as sergei viktorovich lavrov rightly said , our minister. if there was something behind these words , if there were any confirmation of the reality of these intentions and these statements, then yes, of course. and if these are words, then they also matter, but from the lips of a macron. i think they matter less. what could it be if these words were spoken by someone else, but there are too many indirect signs that the topic of peace talks, as played out in the spring. kyiv regime and their western patrons a-a for such e-manipulative purposes, so they continue to do it and now. well, i agree with you, but indeed the macron utters a lot of big words, often contradicts himself, but behind these words there is even more emptiness. but

even more skepticism. i personally show in relation to the european union as a whole, not only in relation to france in particular, but also to the european union as a whole no further than yesterday. the european union has launched a mission to train 15,000 ukrainian troops on its own territory. prepare military personnel. and yesterday, the head of diplomacy of the european union, jose barrel, proudly reported, apparently to the united states , that the european union allocated eight billion euros of military support to ukraine. but that's not all. and as stated by the portal. eh? yur-aktiv, and josé barrel, recently proposed new guidelines for the european union's policy towards russia, as if in exchange, and the so-called long-outdated five principles of federica mogirine. yes, remember that federico is a hero, and in the fourteenth she was also a high representative of the eu on

foreign policy issues, and at the beginning of the ukrainian crisis she did not propose these five guiding principles of eu policy towards russia, of course, the situation has changed and now josé barrel tried to offer a certain alternative. let's listen. what is this alternative? what are the principles? what guidelines does jose barrel propose to form the basis of the long-term policy of the european union towards russia on monday, the eu foreign minister presented a new draft code principles that will become the basis for discussing the long-term prospects for relations between brussels and moscow, first of all, the document refers to isolating russia in the international arena, introducing restrictive measures against it and preventing sanctions from being circumvented in order to prevent moscow from waging war. this should also be accompanied by steps to hold russia's

criminals and accomplices accountable for violating international law and committing war crimes in ukraine and secondly in new the line of conduct refers to the support of neighbors, in particular through the policy of expansion. finally, given the internal situation in russia, the set of principles contains a provision on the need to support civil society of human rights defenders and independent media inside and outside russia at the same time, addressing the increased threats to security and public order. igor georgievich but uh, this looks like a declaration of war? at least cold and what else is, but ironically, even in my opinion, then, unlike the united states which say that well, it’s necessary, as it were, to go and chew gum at the same time and, on the one hand, wage a hybrid war against russia, but on the other hand, it can be negotiated with it on strategic stability. in these principles that josé barrel presented, there is no hint at all of any

positive dialogue. well, it seems to me that the europeans of the european union need to think about renaming the position they were sick of, because that's all that i said, it's not about diplomacy. yes, that is, the allocation of funds intervention internal business and other activities. this is, in general, well, you could hear there i don’t know the defense administration. yes, from uh there is a person who is engaged in intelligence, but not a person who is responsible for foreign policy, but the european union. this is the first and second. e. well, of course, the new ones sounded good. great, but something tells me that it will be very difficult to agree. yes, all 27 countries of the european union have a serious split about implementing these principles, and we are already seeing each other now. and in the european union, this split, it seems to me, is only deepening. and than the further it develops, the further the coal will deepen. and in general, of course, europeans. now, first of all, you need to think about your internal affairs. solve their internal problems, because yes, they, uh, have committed themselves to train u ukrainian

military to cook there. before the war with russia, they committed themselves to endlessly helping ukraine, but will they have enough resources for this, given the economic problems that most eu countries have and something suggests that they will not end, and in any case, many analysts predict that the recession will last at least a year. a it is not known what will happen in winter what winter will be, despite the fact that all gas storage facilities are full, but yes, we don’t know what consumption will be and whether those resources will be enough, yes, and at what price is the most important thing, so hmm, of course, not it seems that the euro-draughtsmen were also bluffing , including in terms of his position, yes, as the head of jewish diplomacy, after all, it would be necessary to really do diplomacy building relationships rather than destroying and deteriorating those relationships. moreover, again , despite all the sanctions, and many years

of pressure against russia, it has been a significant part of it and still remains a major trading partner of the european union and many eu countries even in the current conditions. when already it would seem to the edge of this relationship. we have reached increased trade with russia, therefore, it seems to me that here again the positions of the european union are fundamentally wrong and this position, of course, needs to be change, but on the other hand, there are no signs that it will be changed in the short term in some other direction. here you are right in the heel, when you talk about disagreements within countries in the european union, as he writes, poland and the baltic countries have already criticized this proposal by josep borel for insufficient rigidity, that is, they demand much more stringent, and even policies towards russia at the level of leaders. well, pay attention. what contrasts against the background of everything against the backdrop of this confrontational approach,

and the european union presents the position of china and today's speech at the g20 chairman cd-pin, listen to the ideological delimitation and bloc confrontation can only divide the world to undermine global development and progress in the 21st century, the cold war mentality is long outdated we must unite and you truth our win-win cooperation to a new level. weird. must respect each other find common ground maintaining differences to coexist peacefully to promote the building of open world economies, such as no one should solve their problems at the expense of the other build small courtyards with high walls. or to engage in the creation of closed exclusive groups. ah, native aleksandrovna well, this completely coincides with the russian foreign policy narrative and the russian foreign policy philosophy

. global calls. and threats. why, how close are the positions and approaches of china and russia on the issues of world order and global governance. you know style is a person or a person is a style. true, that's uh russian chinese diplomacy and style of behavior. they are close in the sense that you need to keep your face and dignity under any circumstances and you can’t make hooligan stupid statements that will later disgrace you and those whom you represent, how you fought. for example, which e does not have electrical tape in these required quantities to isolate us. and there is definitely no european union, you understand, so he can say any blah blah, i apologize, of course, and in general, this will not lead to anything, as for

sedenpin, i, of course, do not pretend that you are a translator, but with chinese russian yes, from russian chinese to russian, but nonetheless. i remember that it was he who put forward the initiative, it is especially interesting, uh, launched by him, in my opinion, in the seventeenth year in 2017, and the community of the common destiny of mankind, and this was the first proposal to the world community from outside. all in all, agree pretty self-sufficient isolationist country. china's only trade economy before that. we're investing in infrastructure. ah, the silk road. well, that's all. that's about the practice of life, about such practical issues. and then suddenly a single destiny of mankind. well, in this and in this format, sintempin does not retreat. from this idea. it's on one side on the

other side. i remember that in 2016, when these guys were in davos. uh, such a non-systemic politician donald trump, remember, he said, the end of globalization, that's it, the krants have arrived. here, and who to him objected? it was connected, of course, yes, it means saddenpin, in general, uh, the system was set up, because china was well integrated into it, so it is clear that china will keep its face. you know this expression, it's a loss of face for the chinese to go and commit suicide and that's it. this is this culture. this country means, and china will use every opportunity. here is this outgoing nature. actually from my point of view. here is what the president said and a little note about me. i feel like this is enough. that he showed that china will develop in the

way that is intended. and that he will use all the goodies from the former righteous globalization, that is, economic what to run into china i apologize for this slang term? in general, it will be more expensive for you and we have the opportunity to show, he will answer, therefore, it is better not to contact us. these are all the signals he sent, and it was evident from his behavior, and because he held the congress and showed the whole world that there are irreplaceable people, we don’t have them, therefore there will be a new system. we are speeding up the rearmament of the army. well, and so on. so he showed it all. after that i went to this meeting. here. and here's the thing about barrel's statement . i can say a few words. you know i have one. uh, a specific historical deja vu i remember that in the thirty-eighth or between the thirty-eighth and thirty-ninth years of the xx century, and in the league of nations where did we leave the soviet

union the banner is the well-known, uh, latin proverb of seavey with a parallel, that is, if you want peace, prepare for war. so they redesigned it. you know how sivisa bellem parley pasom, that is, if you want war, talk about peace and, in fact, they don’t confirm it themselves, they train ukrainian, uh, military personnel at their bases, sending weapons and so on. but that's how it put an end to me. really. you very correctly noted the idea of ​​a dolphin. a single community of a common destiny is very complimentary to the russian vision multipolar harmonious world. yes, and this is indeed such a philosophical paradigm contrast to the global dimension, which yes is stable and diverse. why, if the

united states, uh, is promoting global fragmentation and polarization and universalization. yes, then, while china and russia, on the contrary, they advocate the unification of a diverse world. yes, and as for glob indeed, china received, uh, the benefits of globalization, but the problem is that the united states is trying to cancel this globalization for china those they want to make globalization for themselves and their allies, on the one hand, the claim is to isolate e from these processes, china and e, russia and an unfriendly country. and the fact that this fragmentation is fraught not only with political risks, not only with security risks, but also with serious economic risks, even the international monetary fund says about it. here at the same g-20 summit, the director of the imf manager, kristalina georgi, spoke.