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relevant following the results of the g20 summit that has just ended in bali, is the question of the place of europe a in the new global us-china confrontation. will europe agree to contain china to fight china as they want, the united states, great britain seems to be leaning towards the pro-american course, and on the margins of bali themselves, in bali, rishi sunak, the new prime minister called china the main threat to economic security. e great britain and his meeting with the children fell through. and by the way, this is not just a personal opinion. rishi suka is today the director of mi5 british intelligence. uh, ken makkalom stated that china cites the most pivotal strategic challenge for the united kingdom. gamechen strategist. uh, he said, but there is no such certainty about the continental countries of western europe, and the author of the
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american consovert of aspilkington in particular believes that now such countries as germany and france presented to the united states. like a suez lesson, that is, do not join your ally. listen, european leaders continue to support sanctions against russia only because they have become hostages of their own policies. however, in private. they understand that the sanctions have become a disaster and the reason that europe is facing an unprecedented energy crisis and perhaps even a day of industrialization. it is not surprising that the europeans are not going to repeat this mistake of german chancellor olaf-scholz. it's clear brought this to the attention of the americans, when at the end of october he confirmed the status of chinese german trade relations, and at the beginning of november he went to beijing to meet with the chairman of syria, a few days later, french president emmanuel macron at the g20 meeting confirmed his position and assured china that france pursues an independent foreign policy and opposes any bloc confrontation, us attempts to drag other countries into
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another cold war are largely perceived in the same way as british attempts to drag americans into conflict in egypt in 1956. thank you, but no, but nikolai nikolaevich what do you think? what role will europe play in this confrontation and are you right there, you know, but the fact is that, unlike china of the united states, the european union and the sovereign states of europe they of course contradict themselves a little here, they have a little insufficient degree of sovereignty, which located on the territory of many. e nato troops are actually troops, the united states in canada great britain and this concerns the economic security. apparently this is the example of ukraine but if the rejection of energy resources has significantly weakened the competitiveness. from the european economy to the russian one, then the rejection of the chinese market, well, not only the market, but also imports that are quite cheap or
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an attempt to replace it with something else, as a result, more expensive. this will be the second blow to e, respectively, europe in general, e, and to the sovereign states of europe, therefore, europe and this can be seen very well pashotsu plays in such a way. in a sense, a double game, that is, remaining in the field euro-atlantic discourse, agreeing. uh, in words with the americans, including on ukraine , he is really trying to dodge, if you can use such an expression and build your relations with china, including, it seems to me that they still want an end to the ukrainian crisis, including on acceptable for russia and conditions. that is, of course, europe is also trying to work in this direction, and the most important thing is that, of course, in europe they are aware that in general the rise of the united states as the leaders of the western world. with two world wars in europe i.e. the worse it is in europe the better it is in the united states in simple terms and vice versa, the worse it is in the
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united states the better it is in europe i.e. perhaps the taiwan crisis. yes, this will have short-term or even medium-term shock effects, but for europe it would perhaps open new doors to autonomous strategic or full sovereignty. well, you are right, you just drew attention to the recent visitolofalts. e to beijing a. indeed the behavior of germany is of greatest concern to the united states and such a prominent representative of the american foreign policy establishment as ivo dalter, and the former us ambassador to nato a. now the president of the chicago council on foreign relations, generally predicts a conflict between the united states and germany on the issue of china, listen to what he writes. there is a growing risk that the us and germany will clash over china schultz insists that china remains an important business and as a trading partner of germany europe, we do not want
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to break ties with him, taking a large business delegation with us to beijing, the chancellor stressed that expanding opportunities for economic cooperation. with china is a key goal not only for german business, but also for the german government. but in today's reality, so cruelly emphasized by the russian war in ukraine, the interests of german business do not always coincide with the interests of the german government to refuse cheap russian gas. dealt a blow to germany's competitiveness but it was a strategic necessity, however, when it comes down to it. about china, it seems that scholz did not understand this lesson of geopolitics, while biden learned it for baidan. china is a strategic adversary. and while he is far from completely severing ties with the chinese economy, his administration insists on the priority need to achieve us supremacy in industries that amount to? they provide the basis of economic and military power, hence the decision to completely deprive china of access to american technology semiconductors ivan alekseevich but in fact,
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edalder in his article outlined a way out of this situation. how to prevent the us-whale of the us-german clash over china to remove the slot, he ends his article with the words that there are more correct voices in germany who understand, so to speak, the danger posed by china, for example, foreign minister anna lena berkova as in general, here is a similar drive courses are evaluated. and i, uh, i think that this is such, you know, foam on real events that that occur from my point of view and in these , uh, these publications that you cited and your words. dmitrievich is. eh, it is a very rational grain that the american european interest and objectively diverge, they objectively diverge in the ukrainian issue in the russian one. on the chinese question in general, they differ on almost all issues. and it would seem here on loika. here is what you conclude from this. based on these goals, well, then they should start
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to butt heads somehow, so there are some disagreements about it. this it would be if they were equal in size, and the elements we entered into some kind of relationship with each other, but still america. although you know this with many ulcers, uh, and so on, it’s still quite such this is a big fish, and the europeans have turned into small fish. and there is such an expression in our science, which we were engaged in to the best of your relationship. e small fish stratech strategy of small fish, yes, which, unlike the big ones , are something yulia from yulia from yulia from running around back and forth, they try to grab everything, which means for europeans. here in this as part of this strategy. such a suit needs to fuss, yes, there is a certain field of possibilities. what does it consist of? america does not want, or rather america wants to regulate. uh,
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the level of confrontation with china and does not want to escalate too much and therefore the europeans are trying to seize the moment. well, you do not exacerbate, so we can. and if america openly forbids them, the europeans will listen to everything and will not butt heads, but this will mean forcing a confrontation with china because for china it will be a signal. are you forbidding the europeans to have relations with us, so america does not go to open pressure on the europeans on the chinese issue, and china and the europeans are trying to use this as an opportunity to make a fuss and still leave something in the chinese issue for themselves to snatch. but this is unreal, you know, just a strategic time, i absolutely agree, and it seems to me that he exaggerated dalder. speaks dramatism, while us-german relations, but also he himself actually hints that in germany there are other points of view that differ from schultz's approach, one of the important events of today was the
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extension of the grain deal, and for the export of ukrainian grain, and as it was supposed to be , after all, the removal of support for the export of russian grain and fertilizers and e, the deal was extended by 120 days the russian ministry of foreign affairs emphasized that during these 120 days it is necessary to remove the obstacles that still remain for the e export of russian food fertilizer general secretary. he antonio guterish says that and he is fully committed to removing the remaining obstacles. do you think yegor alexandrovich will be eliminated? a good question would be nice in a couter what to ask? i think that lavrov asked him this question. once again he received a promise that everything would be eliminated. we talked about this in this studio 2 days ago and predicted that, most likely, the grain deal would be extended. and that everything will be approximately in the same format. i think one can add to this prediction that problems with implementation, as we have already
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said here, these deals will still arise, because a significant part of the players. not that they are not interested in the fact that russian grain, for example, or russian fertilizers do not go somewhere on the world market. they just, well, no matter how they go or don't go their own needs, they fulfill. uh, like the amount of grain they're missing out there, corn or sunflower oil that they're lacking. they also receive from ukraine, so the key here is spoiler, as it were, of this agreement to those who spoil it and do not allow it to be implemented. well, there is no reason to worry about whether russia will not export, and this, in addition to what is natural, is a lever of pressure on russian politics. this is also just such a basic contradiction in food security, both european and all the rest, because for them there is, as it were, but there is everything else, which, in general, is not so important, well, russia in any case, uh, will continue to supply its grain and fertilizer african countries to developing countries, it seems,
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one of these days a corridor through europe should be launched for the free transfer of russian fertilizers to african countries, and thereby russia's position within the world majority, that is, in relation to countries, will be strengthened. uh, east and south, and, but the joint strengthening of the multipolar world, one of the centers of which will undoubtedly remain russia, it was a big game. all the best. the legend of soviet sports on his account, unsurpassed achievements in figure skating, but with in this, he always remained incredibly modest and, in a
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duet with lyudmila and pakhomova, glorified the russian style in sports ice dancing to the whole world. for several years in a row, they were unmatched by the highest jury scores, six-time gold at the world championships, victory at the olympics, and the decision to leave big-time sports unconquered at the very peak of fame. alone with everyone, the olympic champion in sports ice dancing, multiple world and european champion, honored master of sports of the ussr, president of the russian figure skating federation alexander gorshkov.
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here it is necessary to admit georgievich immediately catches the eye of your incredible external form. i would say that you don’t change it, it seems that it’s just that all the years it’s been somehow sports hardening, good genetics affects or you have to take care of yourself, probably, sport still helps us a lot. well, our sport, figure skating, made such a rod out of me. you have always been incredibly elegant, which is actually on the ice. e, along with his legendary partner pakh, you that in life somehow you managed to be such fashionistas too. i would even say who was vaccinated, this is the passion of the father. he worked, uh, artistic production, well, rural theaters, nemirovichanka. here. well, there,
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naturally sewed. so, as i understand it, well, he me in due time. learned how to tie a tie. so he talked about what, how, with what, but, apparently, this. well, you know children's youthful impressions. they are the most uh, lasting for life, so it's obvious. well, yes, i learned a good lesson. on you our figure skating countries and you are called champions for all time. and just recently, hmm, things like, for example, there are memorable moments of the bank of russia with your portrait, so, uh, a russian postage stamp a series of sports legends, how do you feel like a living person with this. compare on one side. here you are a legend, but on the other hand. so you continue to live this life you won't recognize, well, firstly, well, if
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not quite honestly, but this, of course, it's nice on the other hand. i have not betrayed it for a long time , because even after as the moment when we finished our performance in sports. we perfectly understood that we had a desire, well, to achieve our goals and be. well, probably do everything to the maximum well, as far as it is possible, pleasant for the past. well , of course, here are your views with lyudmila on yours. after the end of their sports career, they parted ways, because she went to coaching, and you immediately somehow decided on the side. and here is such a sports official. it was dictated than in the first place at the time. eh, there wasn't much choice. so, if after the end of a sports career, eh could go to one of, in my opinion, two or three years. well, it somehow does not seduce us.
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it's just a very big playground. they on this little mile playground really enjoyed the coaching . well, i understood perfectly well that two coaches are in the same family. this is already overkill. we have an athlete. in one family. is it still okay? and two coaches, all the more, doing the same thing, we had a little bit of examples when in some cases. uh, well, naturally, sports. the competition was almost to the point of a divorce. therefore, in order to leave this is probably an opportunity, so we decided to do a dispersal after all. yes, i'm lyudmila began to engage in coaching. it really worked out really well. but i had another one. well, a dream is not a dream, but in any case, i wanted to become part of this international federation. well, of course, to the technical committee for ice dancing, where i could determine further
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ways to develop it. in general, we came to another dream. well, yes. in general, this is how it turned out and i succeeded. that her 26 years was left. such leaders are expected to be tough. and you are a person, uh, known, in general, for a very delicate and gentle character. how do you do it? there is one such problem here, even when i started working, i started my career, i started working. uh, in the state sports committee in the figure skating department. well, i often hear that i, well, then there was a different wording, well, everything is fine, but he is too intelligent intelligent. well, yes. well, well, yes , there was such, well, a room deserve such a definition, well, everyone has their own character, on the one hand, on the other hand. you know, i love my athletes very much. i have great respect for the coach of the national team, because they do it. therefore, i always believed that the
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task of a leader is not to lead, but to help those who know how to do it. in general, you got figure skating. well, actually, probably, like many children, uh, at the time when their mothers brought by the hand with you. everyone had their own reason , someone in order to improve the health of the child, because it is necessary to harden and uh, but you still don’t like winter, because so much time, so you spent on the skating rink, and it turns out, which is not too much, they loved this business, but at that time, you know, there were no artificial ice rinks, as if all trainings were held on natural ice. only when the weather was right, that is, the frost hit. so, we ride no morozov, then we rest, and i had one like that a case when this potential was at the beginning of my sports career, so to speak, if we already put it, when i was, well, let's say, weeded out and it happened just in november, when everyone had a raid and decided to watch first there was the second stage
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of selection. uh huh. well, we decided to see how the children skate there, well, maybe they can’t stand on the ice or ca n’t eat, of course, they didn’t know how at all. well, in the locker room, i heard the conversation of the parents that the mothers said that it was not scary that this child, he came out, fell there or something else, but if he fell and got up, fell and got up, it means that he is purposeful, which means that they will take such people. i understood it. well, when i went out on the ice, i got up, fell, tried, ended up being resettled. and then my mother, with great difficulty, had to return me back. well then there is this legend, what do you say so? didn't want to go up to 15 years no pleasure that it's just under duress there is not quite right. and in general, i liked it all. well, like any other child. you know you want to play with friends in the yard. and here wow you, damn it, come from school, they plant dinners, after
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which they take you by the hand, they lead you through the dvorki, you are already your friends and play there or take a rest, you go to the skating rink. then a lesson somewhere around 8:00 pm come back to completely already, as they say, having rolled in the fresh air. and you have to come sit down to do homework, but some lessons here, when your head just fell. well, well , of course, of course, i was always looking forward to spring, when at last it all ends, when lyudmila pakhomova drew attention to you. you are they weren’t, so to speak, in the category of some incredible athletes, when it’s clear that oh , there’s a separate boy, some kind of fantastic, there’s an amazing one, that means an athlete. and now they should be put in the park. she saw you for some reason. uh, i wanted you to have only the first category, but she confessed to her friend tatyana tarasova that you know this? i found myself a partner. i described you as a very handsome boy. well, so thin with big sad eyes. and there is a feeling that so to speak, the main thing for her was not what kind of
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athletes you are. they were already there some kind of feeling that arose in love, or maybe even you, maybe even then for the first time. there were such and it played the main one. as a matter of fact, the role, because you have become in the park. i think not. well, to be honest, uh, about what you just said, i learned a lot later, so i don’t think it will somehow influence or, yes, contribute, when i was invited on the one hand, it’s clear that this call. it's great there, but on the other hand. well, this is a partner who at that moment was still, well, superior to your capabilities, you had to understand that for her to stretch and stretch, of course it's scary. it is very scary when e made this decision and considered this and all aspects related to my future life. i understand perfectly well that i will have to work 10 times
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more than people, or i need to eliminate the difference in our level of our technology as soon as possible. uh, well, in general, probably, uh, and i understood that i would have a very serious job. so it was. we ra- at first we skated 8-9 hours a day. what moment did it happen that a feeling erupted, uh, between you and your partner, given that we were together, probably, well, at least 18 or there sixteen years eighteen hours, well, a day then i would call it not flash, and so a natural process. moreover, people now know when men and women, among other things, are united by a single goal, when you are on some training disputes. somewhere in other cities. there at all virtually all time together. yeah, you know, there is some other sense of kinship. and
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well, and of course, uh, maybe the epiphany is coming, so i rode and didn’t see who was next to the charming woman riding next to me. well , uh, despite all that such a feeling arose, lyudmila had some kind of, as i understand it, very high common sense. because she said no marriage until we win the world championship. she was very goal oriented. yes, she had everything, as they say. so seriously. yes, therefore, it was necessary to postpone the marriage so that there was what to strive for or what, it will distract you, that you will relax? what do you? i think not. this was the goal. that is, we have. well, as they say, there were goals in our life, yes, different ones, i mean about our sports career. yes the first thing is to be on the podium, then become the world champion. uh-huh well, then, of course, there was a goal - this is the olympic games, but literally, from what this statement is about to tell you about people's attitude, only we ourselves can already by me only after
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as the world champion himself was less than a year away from the moment when we nevertheless became world champions, so all this was decided rather quickly. but yes, it was an additional style. and how did you generally cope with such everyday things as skate suits? uh, it was all some kind of huge problem, in fact the first two years of our skating together, when she really had nothing. and from next year, when we proved ourselves, we became part of the national team. naturally, we skate pictures began to receive, as far as suits existed at that time before the model of sportswear. well, there , in general, they worked quite professionally. uh, artists and fashion designers. and, naturally. those who directly sewed the suit. uh, it means, well, it’s true, it wasn’t created right away, but let’s say on this re-in this transitional period, of course, our
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parents, mother, are in the kitchen. there are all these countries, how i don’t know, that’s all, yes, that is. well, then, of course, i'll say it's getting ahead of itself. i said that the demon is called that. forgiveness yes there really came, let's say in the spring. uh, of course, as they say, i already know what kind of music we will have, what kind of program, uh, will be. so we told them about it, the artists drew several sketches, from which we then chose the one that suited us best and, accordingly, further work on all this seams happened in the seventieth year. still, the treasured victory we stood on a pedestal and a wedding took place. but call it family life. and, probably, in such a household sense. yes, almost impossible, because you continued to share has not changed. we just got up, uh, to see each other more, let's say, that is, already, if we had previously parted for a certain time. now we have ceased to part, and everything
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else has remained the same, but the organization itself is the structure. if i may say so. yes, we got up in the morning for them or for training. in general, they came to dine in it, then they arrived for the second training session, than they came, and here is such a scane-endless monotony. here is this stream of addition, naturally an object that you well somehow during breaks between workouts. well, yes, there have been cases, of course, as well as when we were, uh, during the periods there, let's say the off-season, we were afraid of some little free time, but there, by the way, sports life could afford to cook something there, it is such, especially at the level national team. that is, to practice. of course there would be. no, the time is absolutely a lot of time we were, as they say on those very ones. gathering and eating
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, you're in a restaurant, well, since then. i really love restaurants, so it means that since then i have this, if not what i don’t like, i’m allergic to restaurants, so for me, like, restaurants can’t do anything, it’s not even not in the body, no one and let’s say the kitchen or food that is provided, but just the environment itself for me absolutely. here's a trip to a restaurant. this is not to say, not an event even once. rather, on the contrary, it is better at home. and i know that your biography was like that. uh, a terrific case, it was at the world championships of the seventy- second year, when you and lyudmila simultaneously felt on the eve of the signal they were not well. suspected that this was the result of an attempt to send you. you know, well, let's say nobody. e, in the end, of course, he didn’t put forward any intoxication, but such a case took place. it was the world cup. yes, it was seventy-two. it was not quite easy for us. it was
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firstly, the only time when we lost the european championship, we were told that it was, in general, some kind of refereeing game, but we made a conclusion for ourselves that in order to nothing prevented you from your victory must be not just a better opponent, but two. and it’s better to be three heads higher, and so on, nothing will happen. and when we arrived at the world cup. here's one that took place in the canadian city of calgary. yes, we are natural. uh, from the very first, as they say, section with renains, be sure to dance. so before and after and after the original dance was the same, but between this original and the free dance there was a day of break. yes, we went for a walk, then we came for lunch together, ate completely different, but exactly through the rest. well, about an hour and a half felt about before. yes, it was poisoning. well, nevertheless, after all, as it were, the next day we went to the start and did everything we could, although it was very easy to ride and became world
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champions. how does the couple work? who is responsible for what? who is the main thing in what, but nevertheless, when time is already passing, you can probably somehow understand this, for example, was there so was there some kind of irrepressible temperament, and it had to be balanced at some point and thereby gave her support there. and that she subsided, and so say she could contain her emotions. well, that is, relatively speaking, how it worked. how the two of you went to this victory, i would say so. uh, here, as for between lyudmila there, there were no such problems there. but we take into account that our coach is quite emotional and lyudmila was emotional. here i had to act in the role of say. so damper buffer in order to uh, yes, yes, yes, yes, to keep the working environment normal in training. and
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how did you do it? just at some point say break, girls break. you know, i'm libra's zodiac sign. so i have you, so, as they say, i don't know it is written that i have a penchant for a diplomat. well, i used all my, let's say, abilities in this, but i was given this in most cases, i succeeded. in general, did you quarrel in everyday life or not? or when there is a goal, then it quarreled, of course, well, we are living people. naturally, you can both quarrel and be offended, and if something like this happened, then i rushed somewhere to the flower shop and returned there it will be to this, so that, as you understand, that if i was probably to blame, i got excited, you know , somehow make amends. so it wasn't a question. who should make amends to whom, even if a woman is not right, one must ask her for forgiveness. in korea, for every skater, there can be
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quite a few events associated with some kind of injury or illness that skaters overcome on their way to their goal. in your case. well, it was a pretty cool disease. it was a pelvic lung disease , which is no joke. you first long for it didn't pay attention. why? well, what if they bake me in the hospital? and i need to prepare for the world cup. and yet another variation. and suddenly i die. you know at this age, somehow i never think about it, probably, well, you know. what, but what we said, you start to think much more. that is, it's just that you just think, for now, yes, while i can ride, and when it became clear that you can't. well, it became clear when i got to the hospital
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transfuse blood. in the morning our best pulmonologist and surgeon came. mihajlovich expressed the young man. so we need to urgently do the operation. i was naturally outraged. what kind of operation do i have in a month the world cup, and next year the olympic games are the first he says, so. well, okay man. i do not have much time. i have two more surgeries to go, so i'm giving you 15 minutes. i'm coming back. well, as he opens the door ajar and looks in there, or anatolyevna , i see that they have eyes. red i understand that the situation is serious. i'm just asking a question, what do they say? you need to call mikhail dyrovich back, and in 15 minutes, in half an hour, i'm on the operating table. he gave me a spa, not only, as they say, spartak returned me and then, as it turned out, he also saved me. this kind of operation, in fact, is very necessary. for a long time, you
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almost immediately rushed to colorado springs. and moreover, in my opinion, lyudmila was, in general, one of those people who somehow lobbied for this story, so that you were allowed in, so that you could and got into it. eh why? this? naturally? i told you that we ahead were the olympics first for the first time the first olympics where ice dancing was included for the first time in the program. here these winter olympics was the main dream. somehow they could separate. those who break horizons, not forgetting about loved ones, those who build not a business, but the future of you who know that business is more important than big
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just, well, a normal life relatively speaking, the thing is that e be several years in a row on the fidelity stage. yes, it's quite difficult. you no longer compete with let's say with rivals. first of all, you compete with yourself. and every year you have to be better than the previous one. and this is sometimes very easy to do on the other hand. probably, it’s also important to leave when they ask you, why are you leaving, than they expect when you win and ordinary life has begun, a completely different lifestyle, in fact, for the first time ever, that is, if it was like this since childhood competition competition competition competition, and here are two adults, it turns out, here for the first time in new circumstances. how did you deal with it? well, you know, well , first of all, it must be, of course, with a positive attitude. uh,
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you see, finally there was an opportunity to communicate with our friends, because at other times, and you know, in order for them to communicate precisely this. you see, this is the first one. second, you have a daughter . well, my daughter was born. that is, we kind of plunged into this, let's say normal human life, of course, as soon as it was a sports season, and you saw skaters performing on the ice. well, there, well, nothing could be dealt with, of course, i'll tell you another story, how it affected on the one hand. uh. well, of course, as they say, as soon as we finished speaking. well, very soon, literally, they arranged a solemn farewell for us. in december, at the traditional competitions in moscow, the moscow region, we were seen off. yes, and immediately i received an offer, which means to work in goskomsport, somewhere immediately after the new year. i left. well, you know, here's the one, the previous 10 or
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more years of being in the national team. when doing this, as they say in sports, you have reached an achievement, when your whole life is the reason for mainly training for competitions, which means that there is an absolutely clear and rigid routine, that is, it has become in the morning. he trained, he came , he had lunch, he had to rest for about an hour, and so for many, many years. and just imagine, i come to the office at 9:00 in the morning, i sit down, well, yes, everything is fine, so it's time for lunch. well , let's go to dinner together. and this is where the pain begins . why because my body has been asking me to sleep for ten years? although i can't afford it. it really was really excruciating, because i don't know, i was holding the finger of my eyelid. i was extremely ashamed. we have come before these colleagues, i got it. well, in
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general, in short, i have already begun how to deal with this. well, the dining room closed somewhere, in my opinion, the fifth in the evening. so i started walking fifth, that these torments, well, as much as possible to reduce. yes? here, well, then i decided to abandon this altogether, you know, i still have such a breakfast. well, the usual chores that a woman has when a small child is born there, well, some kind of new life completely renewed for itself, and these events are the most important in the life of every woman. but as? i coped with this change, but there were some moments of life, but i don’t know if you have depression, but about the fact that everything has changed in coaching
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. she was insanely engrossed. this. and what about any problems? yes? that's when she distinguished julia with us, uh, by the fact that during? well , probably the first six months, as soon as the night approached, there was a scream, and a scream that could only be stopped by taking her in your arms. well, it had to be done all night, that is, then it would be quiet with her, if somehow put there, again human. at first, as they say, they were distributed in this way. naturally, i will show the work in the presence. naturally. i need to rest, as they say. well and nicely doing this one early morning, dear, screaming, she was walking somewhere to me and apparently it was so. it’s bad, she hits her head and yulia, well, and the doors are there, well, not much, of course, but one more time is heard even more, if not a human scream. that’s natural, and already the voice of july is joined by
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a bold voice. so, i understand that this has come, the very moment when you need to do something. ah and thought there moment began agreed. so she is on duty all night, she is on duty for half the night, and here i am , somewhere from ten o'clock i sat down in the kitchen. we away from the place where she slept. and so the belts took a deep breath, because it could also somehow turn out to be like a flap of newspapers in front of you, because, of course, you didn’t have to watch tv. and because of this, i didn’t have time to reread it five or six times, what is it how do you occupy yourself? that's it , to be printed on this side here, because i didn't even have the opportunity to turn this page, because it's yes, please, for quite a long time. well, let's say it like this parents here was so lifelike. well, that is, julia somehow figured it out quickly with you, so you had no time
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to fall into depression. i understand that you quickly built into a normal parental life. well , such a sad event happened, uh, in your life, that, in general, you can also say pretty soon you discovered that, and smiled at a serious illness, according to the recommendations of doctors , you couldn’t be in the cold, you couldn’t do coaching. i had to take care of myself, though. that's figure skating, dancing on ice. this, well, was essentially the essence of her life. that is, the fact that she loved madly in this regard is a trifle. she said it was interesting, the life i live, she just made up her mind, yes, and she will continue to work. uh, whatever it's worth and you even know when the very god last six months, when uh this
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exacerbation of this disease arose already. hmm she was already in the hospital almost all the time, nevertheless. athletes came to her every day after training, they watched the training on video did not give them recommendations there, that is, she continued to live this life. to the last, so we will now listen to tatyana tarasova, a friend of lyudmila , your mutual friend, and then we will continue. i have always appreciated female beauty. yes, yes, sasha, and i never extinguished this in myself, i always looked at and appreciated it, he had the most beautiful woman and the most talented, well, he always looked, so to speak, around. well, those who evaluate us will, of course, be an amazing
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husband and father, and many fell in love with sasha very much because, well, they felt in him some kind of thin, refined man who was always dressed with a needle, because they were so used to mila they were such news, and they didn’t buy the same porridge if he had some bag, then she also had the same bag. i say, in general, i was going so slowly. it was always very beautiful. and when they went to them, we always in general equaled and looked back. that's experienced a big bold beautiful present. eh, such a luxurious, such a difficult and such a working one. yes life
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for such a colorful work and victories, yes, and he passed with such a gorgeous woman, how cute, and so on happened. it's trouble getting sick, then he was sleeping next to the house of the last day. nothing. i can't take it to say because i know he was around on the last day. and until the last hour. i understand that your daughter survived. uh, mother , uh, ludmila well, you know, it so happened with us. the fact is that the apartment of the moderate mother lyudmila , she was on the same. what and our apartment bold and to the point? it was a separate compartment. that is, which is fenced off, that is, we have an apartment, between our doors, between our apartments is not closed. that's why, naturally. uh, lyudmila ivanovna took the most let's say the active part and naturally. when we
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are with people, well, we talked about it. she said, well, automatically anyway. okay, i took over all the functions. about what was for you, and surprise once to find out what, including yulia, said. i don't know, maybe later, when she was a teenager. and it was her choice. so to speak, do not live with you stay live. again, it did not happen immediately; it all happened only after e. uh, well, let's say, at the beginning, we continued to live together and it was. but when you got married, the second time, that's when the question arose, yulia refused. well, you know , she didn't refuse. she was such a moment, it was hard for me to understand her, and i tried to talk to her, tried to find out the reason from her, because she began to open up from me. i traveled
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trying to catch him in school. here she is with her friends she left and ran away. yes, and such a yes there was such a period, and it was not me, not yulia, who had the desire to sort things out, therefore, about the occasion and when everything returned to normal. we just thought we forgot, let's look at your daughter. he wants a fair leader. these are, as it were, the main qualities. mom is creativity. m, because what happens around you in the world, i guess. something that i am very, very lacking. i think that like any child, yes, a who lost. his
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parent yes, in my case, my mother, and plus, of course, the situation. and that people were very public and hmm, they also talked a lot about their personal relationship, it didn’t pass me by, that is, saturated saturated. that's all this is not always positive somehow yes, but positive emotions. and i was very worried. mm. i didn't know how our relationship would turn out. and i know that irina was also worried, because we talked a lot about it, and after, well, in the end everything worked out. it was an incredibly difficult decision to marry a second time, because not only is it, in principle, a man, so to speak, who turns his lost wife attention to yourself. a widower on the one hand
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is supposed to be able to build another life. on the other hand, there is the memory of the departed wife. you are with your wife. they were one for just, well, that's a million. uh, your viewers, fans and your friends and acquaintances, when these were already inseparable two names, if plowed, then gorshkov, if gorshkov means, in my opinion, the need to overcome this. well, perhaps the rejection you experienced right lion with you suspicions. there was a period quite simple and even had to somewhere. well, let's say lose individual friends met. you probably know. i'm not talking about her external data, because she is a very more than attractive woman, but this is not
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the main thing, the main thing, for me, for me, it was that she was very correct, but this is not quite the exact word. delicately yes, she was very, very delicate in all matters directly and which was very valuable precisely in the very period that you spoke about, that is, she did not insist on anything, did not press, did not say to do one way or another, she understood that you are in a difficult position. ah, support me in every possible way. let's listen, irina, i remember everything at one time, i still watched them, when, in general, i was still at school. and my mother and i sometimes watched tv and admired. it was our favorite couple, then we met already at the time when i was working, uh, on the brain. no. these were such competitions that the carrier from the canadian delegation took there. uh, that's it, it was such a workflow, uh, but it was very cool, it was clear, immediately that u we
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are somehow very comfortable with each other. we are very good we understand each other, it was still such a time that it could not have turned into something else then, and only after 5 years. well what happened happened. we began to live together, got married, indeed, we have a complete mutual understanding, we react in exactly the same way to the same things, that is, there is some kind of unity from the very beginning and uh, well, what to say that a person is just perfect is nothing not to tell. it's just so good with him. uh, hmm is so supportive for the whole family that we just we all live like in christ's bosom, we have never been in any other houses with him in our lives, to get medical treatment, to think about our own health, he will never endure this. well, he will never do what can
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be, even would have already explored to do there, which, probably, after all, human strength is not unlimited, but, nevertheless, calm, kind , these are the qualities. i just don't want to have. it's very nice to hear about yourself. i want to note that it turns out that nothing has changed. that is, you don’t need to go on the ice right now, but the attitude, so to speak, and the habits of treating yourself remain the same, this one grit your teeth and endure to the last, because i am the last thing, and first of all, the interests of others. well, that's okay, right? how so? why is it normal, but now it’s not for the olympics. you are chasing, the sport brought up like that. i think it's me i 'm not the only copy away.
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hello , as part of the information channel on the first program, time will tell, we are working live. i am artyom sheinin and continue. as a matter of fact, to understand what is happening here in that history, which, in general, and how history is such a global one. uh, dangerous, according to many. uh, it should have ended yesterday, because against the backdrop of the conversations that began, as conversations, that the supposedly russian rocket fell in poland rather quickly. uh, these fears related to the fact that ai, how can nato respond now, have ceased, and as we found out yesterday here in
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the studio, talking about this with a specialist in air defense for purely technical reasons from the first mut from the first minutes, more precisely, even before something flew there, but also western and, so to speak, well polish, although they are part of the western. uh, technical services, air defense radar stations and so on, could not help but know what happened. this is the most important moment. now i won't tell you this. who cares. yesterday, immediately after the broadcast, i posted this in my telegram channel in full conversation with an expert. there it is unconditionally proven that for the first few minutes, all the leaders of western countries and the nato bloc knew what had actually arrived and where it had arrived from, that is, they knew that this ukrainian air defense missile remained a separate moment. um, why did they deliberate for a while, choosing how to react to this, as to what it really is. what is exactly a ukrainian air defense missile or like something else in any case, and
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the leaders of western countries and above all the president of the united states bidens and the leadership of nato even we must pay tribute to the unbending essence, stoltenberg, who always and in everything, no matter how extreme we should be, even he broke down. everyone said no, no, no. this is a ukrainian rocket, but they showed this common sense of responsibility, and so on and so forth, and in general on this in theory. uh, this incident, like an incident from which some expected almost the eve of the third world war, but should have been exhausted, and suddenly, in the evening, the culprit in a certain sense of this, in quotation marks, blew up the dance floor. that is, everyone has already spoken, biden, spoke, duda spoke. and nato spoke out, everyone spoke out. and suddenly the one, in fact, about whom everyone said that it was his rocket that issued the next one first, please. i have no doubt in the reports to me personally from the commander of the air force and to the
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commander-in-chief, zaluzhny, that this was not our missile or not our missile strike. i have no reason to trust me, i went through a war with them. i'm sure we should be involved in the investigation. i want us to be fair, and if it was the use of our air defenses, then i want to go. proof. first, the consequence of accessing the data you have. and here the question arises. that is, after everyone has already said everything and not only have they said about the poles. in general, this was dealt with quite substantively, he declares that he is 100% sure that this is not their rocket. and what he has. well, as it were , evidence that is more abrupt than the evidence of biden iduda, and this is zaluzhny and the commander of their air force with whom he went through some kind of war. i don't know what kind of war. he went with them. what computer game did they play there, in what offices of which he had already managed to go through with them. but it's okay, as they say, there is not such a person in the head, but the fact is that he declares this, and here questions arise. it's like he's
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doing what he's doing. and that is, he is swaggering on his own thinking about it. i 'm not the only one who thought about it, how many would first get a slap on the back of the head from a pipe. well, such, as it were, an absentee slap. and duda says, well, actually. uh, well, dude, you're kind of pissed off, and we've already sorted everything out. here as if everything is obvious. then he gets even more such a sensitive and ringing uh slap from uh, old man from grandfather joe grandfather joe is very e even if you do not know english, you do not need to understand what he said. you just look at how he said, and there are a lot of russian words that you can substitute there, listen. do you consider zelensky's words that the rocket that fell in poland was not ukrainian to be proof? well, that is normal. yes, you
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think. well, it would seem, yes, not enough, moreover, and the state department, too, uh, well, the state department, of course, is not as bright as biden, and the state department also said. well, that is, guys, somehow something got a little confused there, in principle, everything is already clear right there, and moreover, they even leaked to the press with reference to officials. e of the nato alliance and which, well, in general, speaks very irritably to the address. e zelyuka, please, zelensky is undermining nato's confidence in ukraine with his statements. they are involved in the missile incident in poland , a diplomat from one of the countries of the alliance and it becomes ridiculous ukrainians are destroying self-confidence, no one is blaming ukraine they are openly lying. it's more destructive than a rocket. do you understand? no one already, as it were, says, dudes, calm down you, no one is blaming you for this, some kind of nonsense. you are lying, you are
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arranging some incomprehensible gembel. and one more confirmation that not only there, the elders in the west, there is a consensus that they do not develop this story further. and no matter how anything in her is not looking for another confirmation of the consensus that the story is over on our part is in my opinion, the fact that today our attacks on the critical infrastructure of ukraine have resumed quite powerfully . uh, this is the arrival of dnepropetrovsk by yuzhmash, and the same yuzhmash, which they have long been asking for this yuzhmash somehow. well, something happened to him, because the mock-up of the iskanders with a nuclear warhead. they collected something there in order to write something off for us there and dots, y, with which they hammer in the donbass. they are there . and that is, as if they flew there further, they flew for some kind of gas production, as the prime minister of ukraine said, sniffing. well, i'm not
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very good at it yet. what kind of gas production they flew. maybe he went into the office last night to go to the potion, when it means that this is some new stave delivered, maybe it’s not important for inspiration, that’s not the point. the fact is that i am personally sure that if there were at least some unanswered questions with the nato bloc about what it was, if there were at least some doubts from someone in the west, given that military a-a contacts of this level still work, no matter what. i think that today these, so to speak , ours, our work in such a volume would not be resumed. my personal point of view for me , this is another confirmation that in the west all questions are to the fact that it was us in the practical sense of the word. our rocket is there. the shelling of poland is not to mention the fact that they intend to take it off . moreover, the third point is again same, well, this is the gutta-percha boy, everyone rushed to calm down, and making an infinite
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number of statements yesterday. um, despite the fact that yes, this is a ukrainian rocket. yes, we understand that this is a ukrainian air defense missile which flew to poland and killed people, by the way, until now. i never found, neither the names of these people, nor the photographs of these people, everything, everything that is visible. everything that is visible in the press. today i saw a synchro of a polish woman who says the deceased was a very good person. well, as if she lives with him in one a very small village, then, probably, somehow his name is rather strange but it doesn’t matter, and in any case , they begin to reassure everyone that even if someone dies, it’s still not your fault anyway russia and this refrain becomes the main one, what they are told is, of course, your rocket, but the russians are to blame, of course. yes, there it comes already to some kind of absolutely here. well, there is still a commit when the united nations representative of the united states says that, of course, it is russia's fault, because this missile would not have flown there if
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if you didn’t start this war, vasily nebenzya answers her logically in the same logic. well, this war would not have happened, if in the fourteenth year you would not have supported the unconstitutional. well, that is, rhetoric, well, as it were, returned to what it was before yesterday evening, as if familiar rhetoric, everyone says his own, it seems, everything is fine. that is, in principle, it makes no sense for him to shove away from this rocket, he has already been told everything about you a potion of claims, none of it is all the fault of the russians. eh, we won't fight there, calm down. slightly crawled slightly crawled away, then there are no longer 100% sure, but still. i don't know what happened. this time we don't know 100%, i think the world doesn't know 100% either. i am sure that a russian missile was flying, and that we launched air defense missiles, but we cannot say for sure that the ukrainian air defense is to blame. you see, that is, it’s kind of not for that. even yesterday he was sure from his own words. uh, it means the homies with
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whom he still went through how many warriors, which is 100%, now, it seems to have crawled away, it seems not 100%. but nevertheless. i say don't know and attention and the whole world don't knows, this is after biden said, as nato said, as duda said, and as the inflexible e100 l said. everyone said, we know, no , the whole world doesn’t know let us in. we, you see, don’t know how we can see if they let us in, so they are in the place of this whole story, which also arises, like a question. well, that is, he is to such an extent. well, you know, this one, no matter what was amused anywhere, only it wasn’t hung up, because, well, after the poles were there, everything that could be found there had actually already been found. what the meaning of the fact that they are allowed there, despite the fact that they are being let in there, and the cnn map is added to them by the map, but on which cnn writes that everything is clear that it was the ukrainian
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air defense that flew in, the polish bureau of investigation also gives a comment that we don't exist at all. there is no doubt that everything is completely clear to us, and yet they play this game, play this game, i play along with him in that it seems, as if nothing is clear to anyone, because if everything is clear to everyone and he was told that we will figure it out without you , then why go on his occasion and let ukrainians go there experts. and here there is, as it were, a rather incomprehensible moment again, and that is, if it was he who simply swaggered in spite of all of them. well, this is how to say, as if drug addicts, they are generally quite like that. well, there are restless ones. uh, i think we're just more cuffs. they probably go anyway. in hell, and i'm imagining the situation. ok then. now a ukrainian expert has arrived there, for example, they are all over ukraine quickly. before that, a competition was announced, it was they who dragged pieces from our fallen e-rockets there
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come there and talk about found. found found or as a shukaf, as it will be there and everyone says, vigorous on the yoke. what ukrainians are big-eyed, we searched, searched, searched, searched, did not find, and the ukrainians are such burnt-out boys. well, give us this piece here, we will study it nonsense. so they will not be substituted, then the question arises. why and here is an interesting story, that perhaps we are not quite right when we tell them, when we say that he is swaggering, so against all the older guys in the west, because there are some older guys. in the same west, remember how many times yesterday we discussed that the british did not say anything intelligible. the only one who said something was the minister of foreign affairs with a speaking surname pecked in russian. it would be wise or wise and he was so very wise he said that you know we will not rush. nothing is clear, as it were, we are waiting for evidence that already seemed to be at that time, and here is a very revealing
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moment against the backdrop of what everyone is saying, this is a ukrainian rocket talking about the leaders of britain and canada zelensky, against the background of that attention, his rocket flew to poland and, as the poles say , killed someone there. now. listen to the tone of this conversation. and you probably have the same questions as me. what is it please? vladimir, this is justin. i would really like us to talk as friends. we know what a difficult day yesterday was a terrible day for you and your country, and it was loudly and clearly conveyed to all those present. that what happened in your country yesterday is unacceptable and demonstrate we all together condemn another barbarism of the russians. it's me, really want to tell you to assure you that we're with you and that we'll get through this one step at a time, all together. thank you vladimir see you soon.
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the question arises of these uncles, given that both uncles. it's one way or another, so to speak. from under the crown of the british uncle, one briton, another canadian, there was also a third australian missing. well, for a complete gesheft. and so they tell him, in general, yes, you just would like to talk about this, we will figure it out step by step. that there is more, just not enough to say. you do not listen to these, then the americans. there poles to the poles. we will wind up our ears and so on, a not very clear story, which, as it were, appears against this background. and it's even more interesting that against this background cnn well, apparently someone who supplies cnn with information thinks something is somehow incomprehensible. history, come on. we'll also add that, in principle, he's just swaggering on his own ears, we need to kick this cnn let's listen to everything n, yes. sullivan immediately called zelensky's office following his appeal and urged officials to
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be more careful about how they talk about the incident, the sources said. bayda to zelensky was not spoken on tuesday evening, despite the request of the ukrainian leader to organize a telephone conversation, the source also said. well, here alexey alekseevich is just some kind of detective scandal in a noble family, and i don’t know what’s involved here, what’s going on with us, it’s called war of towers war of towers war of towers. you also adhere to this version. well, first of all, me what attracted my attention was that when zelensky commented, this is in the very first material, and he already mentioned the pledged one. he said he was sure of it. yes, what a lie told him all this. in fact, zelensky put it behind the luzhnik, because now he will shift everything that was already pledged to me. he reported what was reported to me, then i mixed it up. so i think that here we are talking about a war of e-towers inside ukraine because it is a protege of the pentagon who is promoting it, and
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zelensky, if you believe it. uh, some information agent er hmm british intelligence. that's why the face of a conflict of interest, what is called some boys against other boys? here everything is more or less clear. this explains why zelensky insists on this so much, because by this he emphasizes. uh, the incompetence of a bastard in his position, without saying it out loud. i think it's intrigue. she is still working here. yes, some of the curators, she says, mr. zelensky, what are you talking about, why are you doing all this, but he has his own game and he is with this game of his just here it’s very to the point just exactly the re british example and the canadian example, they both quite rightly said, uh, subjects of the british, uh, crown. they told him dear. come on, go ahead, because i'll remind you. he's still a british development agent. so here everything is logical in this situation. actually. e
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delivers another wonderful syncia. regarding the fact that if russia had not done something there, then it would have been nothing if the ukrainian side had not allowed the boeing mh17 into the territory. underway fighting and did not lead its decline, and so on, too, there would be nothing. i just want to remind you to be completely logical in this situation, so there are claims. i think that they will be expressed in the near future. after we analyze the verdict of the hague court regarding mh17. all these all all these situations testify to only one thing, and western authors, including zelensky, but suddenly an actor, but we will include this company in the future as a british intelligence agent. he's talking about a western author. they climbed in. they just climbed in and now they are trying, uh, to put a good face on a bad game. and as you know, when you produce a lie, you produce it. uh, a lot, then you start to get confused in the testimony, so the
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situation of zelensky the situation of any western actor includes lyudok whose all zenpin on e. g20 just wiped his feet on him. just to be honest , public and it's done. well, not legs, but scolded to put it mildly, that's all. everything, it leads. now it brings us to, or rather, a very unpleasant conclusion, and which india and china have already made iran has already made russia by itself a long time ago and by the way, now it is starting to make the euro of europe , gradually changing the line of those, uh, actors who are leaders of countries that, uh, to put it mildly, uh, were uh, ardent fans of atlantic solidarity, let's call it damage to the interests of europe and now we are witnessing this process. and zelensky is here, he is already a figure. uh, very inconvenient for the same biden , which is why the conversation was denied. and here is such irritation directly through, irritation - irritation of all these guys. yes, he is still happy
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better drawing, which is completely, as if still the same, as if he still does not understand what he is trying to bark at those on whom the older ones bark and so on. uh, justinda is also a boy. asking again i will not deny myself the pleasure of wiping my feet. here are the two boys. they, in principle, they, in principle, are now in the same category by zelensky to varying degrees. what is called mmm. uh, well, the deep-seated problems that they got into to varying degrees with zelensky are more, uh, less labor. but nonetheless. this is one team they will be sacrificed first of all by senior comrades, when the time comes to answer, and the time is already coming. well, accordingly, this is the version, uh, which, of course, comes to mind in many ways, when you look at this here. well, that is, of course, you can version. and what is he something? well, they brought him something powerful. he
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completely went off the rails there, and therefore, rushing against everyone, you can also consider it, but still it doesn’t look like, do you share the version that zelensky’s behavior is absolutely like this, well, it didn’t happen, i would said perpendicular, and view. americans and in this case even polyakov although the poles are in general also such a thing about the british asset, that is, in this story even the poles with the americans zelensky is rushing against them aleksey alekseevich’s version that this is some other tower, if you agree with this, then in your opinion? uh, what does this tower want to survive from this situation, given that the american tower has already, like, closed the cases, if you don’t agree, then how does it determine, how, uh, you determine this, well, it’s not at all experienced, and such impudent perpendicularity of zelensky but i still don’t believe in conspiracy theories here, but the following thing hooked me in what alexei said. uh, euro-atlantic,
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solidarity means, firstly, it seems to me that zelensky as a person is almost soviet post-soviet. this term is understood too literally or either began to believe in it. it seems to me that for the past. for months, he had some kind of picture of the world in his head, there is a certain single smell with common values. it may well be that he even believes that these common values ​​exist. here he is a candidate for entry into the western world. he really is. there is a paladin crusader who fights with some incomprehensible barbarians and within the framework of this religious one, but we are talking about. well, the west - it formulates as a religious war. like war, ideas really, but such particulars. this is how some manipulations with the truth are allowed, and then, again, in 9 months there were so many cases when people openly lied in the face in the rally, and everyone, in general, looked favorably on it. i have in mind that in what they covered him. he did
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worse, after all, and he decided. well, actually, and how and there the shelling of the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant differs from the air defense missiles that suddenly flew in me now, of course, let's say that this is russian and what i am convinced, we will not. it is easier for brothers to believe in this, and in this logic. i think he really expected what they would say. yes, indeed, of course, you are russian on the very first evening on tuesday evening. when he immediately they there rushed to call and blinks. well, and to everyone. everything the fifth proto- means, the fifth means the point or how? that is. he rushed to give a pass, the pass was not accepted, and he still cannot stop in your version. well, it seems to me, yes, and then here he became a hostage to the situation that he himself created, because he, too, was not immediately pulled up. that is, if you look at the chronology, well, let's say an increase in the degree of the statement. well, it’s imperceptible, and then the time difference also needs to be taken into account in the morning, when he woke up, when, in
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general, grandpa biden is already, in general, to himself. there , in english, he sweared clearly swearing. and how include back? that is, this must be explained somehow, and then well, look even at this video, that is, a person. well, really is in such an extreme. narcissism, this is a reservation, according to freud, we went through a war with him, but it’s not accidental, but he really sees himself as a roman hero. and how can a roman hero admit that he was wrong about something, that he screwed up, like a boy, to the point of impossibility for him to rules. and now , all of a sudden, it turns out that within the framework of these rules, and his google is somewhere, he is not allowed to do everything, and his put in a corner. and this, in my opinion, is completely unbearable. yeah, that is, i don't know there, can we consider this as a precedent. that's when a prevailing psychotype, well, comes into conflict with the idea of ​​the author of the script. it may well be that further we will see, as it were, such a public flogging. and further, but life will show further. we will now discuss after
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the commercial. there's a question here. why? uh, so much attention, i pay uh to this situation and try. uh, how to get, well, different grades and her because do you understand what's the matter? the question is whether the problem is in zelensky's psychotype of the drug addict or the problem is that some of the groups of influence continues to play some kind of game for them. this is a very important question, but from the point of view of the real war that is taking place here, in which real people are dying, and he is, whatever one may say, but, nevertheless, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces and the supreme ukraine, and here the question . in what that marity we come from the fact that the boy is absolutely controllable, now the question arises that the boy we control, but perhaps not quite those or not at all those with whom we have some kind of contacts about the boy and who make us understand that
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to work live and discuss live not so much this psychological detective story. uh. why does zelensky make such a perpendicular statement, and it would seem to everyone that, uh, his senior mentor, and curator and biden and pole and nato, they react very annoyed to this, but he continues to move in this direction. and we are discussing, it's not because we're so interested in what's in his head. uh, as if we are discussing an actor dashing drug addicts, this is because this story is very interesting and highlighted in a new way, whose project in terms of manageability and control zelensky is or is not because we proceed from the fact that you remember, we discussed the past, that means, here is sullin, what sullivan is calling sullivan recommends the kiev authorities there something, so today, against the backdrop of this story, everyone is publishing. uh, cnn is posting that the
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sullivan called them and advised them to be more explicit and so on and so forth, everything comes from the paradigm that this is their project, that it is run by them and is acting in their interests. and this means that some, well, contacts about what is happening here. uh, well, with curators. maybe in some situation now, it turns out that the curators are not those about whom we thought that they were the main curators, or he not only submits to them and is incomprehensible. in what balance to which of them does he obey and you of this story he is under the supervision of the american. well, somehow it came out very frankly. and in this sense, this is, of course, an interesting story, if it is not considered through questions, there are no narcology and psychotherapies, but in the first part of the program, not only you colleagues have already outlined two main versions that
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i can only repeat and twist a little bit your version your version with alexei is that there are several towers in the west, but it's true alexei said that they are towers in ukraine but i think he meant that ukraine is a proxy here . proxies of these two towers. and these towers, it turns out that they may not be the same as it is customary to argue, when it says there, let's say about the anglo-saxon world of continental europe, you are talking about the british and american towers, which may conflict with each other another, for example, and in this situation it turns out that both russia and ukraine are considered as tools for solving more complex and dangerous tasks. well, for example, according to your logic, great britain is apparently unhappy. uh, the dominance of the united states is trying to dominance. eh, break off by any means. well, i would say rudely only
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added that e is dissatisfied with dominance. yes, she was never happy with him, but in this case, it may be dissatisfied that, within the framework of her dominance, the united states quite often lately began to give signals, and the need for some, if not reconciliation, then at least a temporary lull. well, it means that if you and alexey are right, that the uk should make sure that the united states gets involved in this conflict, they did not moderate it, like a conflict that takes place several thousand kilometers away, and he has nothing to do with them. you see, there is only one way to turn it on. uh, well, if you really bring your version to its logical end, include the united states in conflict with a full-fledged repetition of the question is not in the supply of weapons, nor in financial assistance, but precisely in the likelihood of a military clash is possible only, respectively, again playing in the possibility of an
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intercontinental nuclear conflict. this means that russia needs to be involved in a full-fledged war with the nato bloc, provoking a situation that could be involved. yes, in a full-fledged conflict with nato, when necessary, she would declare that, yes, this is a threat to our security and put the fourth and the fifth article of the nato charter with the possibility of a nuclear conflict then your logic really fits in and uh, whatsapp calls apparently, uh, the canadian and british prime minister and zelensky's position if look like a british one, a proxy, this is if you are right, this means that we are in the near time to face similar situations. when stories like this are created and uh, paphos will be directed to the fact that everything is now exactly uh, a blow to nato let's take action. further already, too, here you know such a dialogue is going on. here, haymaker. this
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insufficient reason. yes, the tractor is not enough to find some sufficient. yes, in the end , yes, this is one quantity that turns into quality yes, the second version. it may be just the opposite. eh, how are you? do you understand? what can be the anti-cansiological version, only the chaotic version here we can talk about the psycho- state. well, it can be said that zelensky may simply be afraid that this is also a trite enough thing, but it concerns the fact that zelensky may be afraid that attention to ukraine can calm down a little and in every possible way reminds of himself that he is owed money there. glory lavrov because, well, the attention that was riveted to zelensky in the summer, it is clear that in the fall. in the same place, everyone remembered about the elections in the usa, they forgot about him, and he can simply remind himself of himself not only from the point of view. here is the psychotype that i’m reminding myself that you forgot about me, and i burst into tears, but i’ll just remind you corny there that there are financial obligations to ukraine to
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him personally and in this way just to remind that one has to make money in the concept really. uh, here, as it were, one more of the versions that aleksey alekseevich outlined in this way, but in short i just did. eh, i think that might be the issue. by the way, this also applies to the towers inside, including inside the american towers. and i think that there is not without it, and even wrote today. eh , about this, but about what is possible, zelensky is not at all such a fool as we are trying to be? not no fool, no tantrums, no drug addicts and so on, huh? and why does he play a very tough and dangerous game for him? a game with one of the american towers, despite the fact that there is some other american tower that bets on the scammer. it has been written many times that, for example, the pentagon is betting on the scammer
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. and the general enters into an absentee controversy smilly, and for a moment the team, yes, that is, it actually behaves like politics and in this sense the version that zelensky put himself perpendicular to the americans, put himself perpendicular to one e, as it were izbashenny he plays not against the towers, but against the mortgaged, because the version is really that all this is his imaginary madness. and this madness does not stand up to criticism, because indeed he, when he spoke with the fact that he is absolutely sure that this is not so, he really said, i trust my pledged and my commander of the air force whatever it is, i don’t remember his surname, yes, and this means that the further attention zelensky has to retreat under the pressure of the americans, the more he substitutes the bastard.
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well, this one, as it were, the second one, that is, the harder they hit him now, the stronger, in fact. as a result, they will hammer on the hall, that is, roughly speaking, zelensky is substituting, as if he himself is actually hiding behind the pawned and when at some point he will have to say, if he is forced to say, yes, guys, i wrong. i was misinformed exactly at this point the question arises. who misinformed who? this is how we rewind, the internet remembers, i trust everything pledged. this is my sidekick. i went to war with him after all aha and here, as it were, an interesting story will arise, especially since it is confirmation that these american towers exist and play differently even inside the american towers. here, against the background of this story, it came to us against the background. there is the same ramstein against the backdrop of all the talk about some kind of truces, not truces, and so on. here are
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two high-ranking american military men who seemed to be in the same team of the same american one and suddenly we are listening for miles like that. to physically drive the russians out of ukraine is a very difficult task. this will not happen in the next couple of weeks, unless the russian army suffers a complete collapse, which is unlikely, therefore the probability of a military victory for ukraine, defined as the emergence of russians from all over ukraine including crimea, is militarily low, as a rule, due to weather conditions, tactical operations are slowed down, therefore if that happens, there may be a window for a political settlement. or at least remember the beginning of the negotiations. yes, chairman of the joint committee. chief of staff of a four-star general. well how would be huge. now austin is the secretary of defense of the united states of america telling us a mile away telling us that, well, winter is likely to slow down, slow down the window for negotiations for this field. well, he is a military man
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, as if he needs to know better. austin us secretary of defense listening we have seen that russia is having difficulty getting enough ammunition to fight the way they want to fight. our goal is our demand to make sure that we continue to provide funds to ukraine, so they should continue to put pressure on the russians further. and i think the winter fight is in favor of the ukrainians. okunki said toflo, like love books about my troll now the question arises. these are the same american towers. under one of which or against one of which zelensky is playing there, he is pledged. and in general, this is about why he seems to be charging one general, well, rather a slowdown, and the other. no-no-no, winter battle ukrainians forward! is that, well, it seems to me that this is
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just an example of public american politics, but now, if we are talking about a mile, we were remembering him here a week ago. that's even less about the fact that he is a protege of trump. here he is such a patented republican. according to him, in principle, and it is clear that he is a real republican. here he is aloof, he is not quite a member of the biden team, which is there, well, let's conditionally call hawks who are looking for a military solution to this european crisis, and the second general, well , as i know much less about him, but this is a continuation of that rhetoric who regularly voices and biden who voices and blinkin and salivan, that is, in their mouths, well, for the past couple. months of no peacefulness, well, that's a clear hint so far that has not sounded. here, well, here are some easy passes, that if the russians surrender, of course, we will not hang them. i would have formulated it this way, but in principle, they should give up first here, as if there is a clear dissonance there. here i will
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add two more words. now let's add these two words, but all the same i want to understand, in your opinion, this dissonance in the reasoning of a mile. and austin he talks about what they don't have today consensus on whether they will build up e, force the ukrainian army to build up military efforts in the winter. in other words, they have not yet agreed on this. i think that they are quite calmly considering any options. these are not their wars, they are waging it by proxy, that is, relatively speaking, they have a strategic goal to bring russia to its knees, literally to bring it to its knees. for this, it is not necessary to defeat russia in a military sense. well, all the more so that this here chief of the general staff believes that this is unlikely, to put it mildly, he believes that, in principle, the situation is possible. maybe, like once on this, like. here, let's give 5% there, and consider the following scenarios. here, and the second says, in
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principle, about the same thing, but perhaps they paint a more dramatic picture that we need here, through ukraine, we need the russian to inflict a few more sensitive defeats to bring them to some kind of diplomatic negotiations that will blow up the internal situation and we will solve our problem. so that is, it is nothing more than a matter of choosing tactics, but they have strategies. one and the same they are at war with russia here. well, just one thinks that let's, as it were, we will try there, well, to save a certain amount of resources, that is, miles, in a sense, this war is stretching, because it has some kind of slowdown in hostilities . a slowdown, then the resumption of hostilities, i can add two words, maybe miles believes that it is russia that is more stable inside and it needs to be pressed back in ukraine in order to prevent this internal crisis happened for sure, but simply, yes, autumn, but miles
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thinks that it doesn’t, how would we bring the situation to the right state. you can now disperse to winter quarters, and there the russian opposition inside will do the work that, in general, is what we want, maybe so. well, that is, i do not see the difference in the strategy here. it's nothing more than a different tactic. i mean, anyway, uh, they're on your mind. in different words, they say that military operations are quite active and will continue. well, in ramstein, as i understand it, on which was today e, allocated new e, more precisely, it is said that new weapons will be allocated. and this means that all the talk of the previous weeks about some kind of there is that ukraine should portray readiness there for something. that is, this word of negotiations, which hung in the air for three weeks. it continues to hang in your mind, look in it, uh,
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or are we already moving again into some other, uh, some other stage of conflict, if you imagine the situation in the backyard, where barbecues are being prepared, where the barbecue is, in fact, ukraine and austin and miles, are these two men who figure out how best to do it? let's, let's take it. e. then we'll fry, he says, and austin says. no, let's take a bite right now. so that the juice inside is preserved and so on. that's it, that's all. i have a very good image of you for a second, but only about the backyard piece of meat and these two , but let's be honest and tough on ourselves, as i understand it. sergey, sergey, just sees this backyard, in which two men milly and austin at least think that this is a chop russia and not ukraine but ukraine are coals. under this chop, miles and austin did not listen very carefully, and when i talk about the meat of ukraine, i meant the
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meat of ukraine. they didn’t mean russia because , uh, yes, in this situation, both uh, perfectly brilliant, educated officers of a very smart person. they stipulated from the very beginning that, a, russia must be taken seriously b. rossi you can't win like that, you can't win. this is what they say from time to time. they discuss it. uh, russia in our case, here it is, uh, the country that they are where they want this smell to go and russia, uh, hungry russia, to a large extent, they seem to be interested, after the sanctions impact, they became interested , said, listen, well, let me go to the backyard. let's get together, eat and so on, because they are well aware that the only thing that can destroy. e, russian e, political system, military system, and so on. this is a nuclear exchange. and i would like to avoid this. here, moreover, ukraine is also aware of these prospects. she is says, come on, figs with him. let's apply. this is a blow. come on, we can still have nuclear weapons,
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we still have no problems. we are beaten back here, we can do it if you are embarrassed, if you don’t want to remain in this history for history, e cannibals who used nuclear weapons, we will do this for you, but we will live, then you will be in your back yard. here, well, ukraine does not understand that it is actually just putting it mildly. than meat, and here we are only talking about at what period, at what stage we really begin negotiate here austin says, listen, the pressure is already breaking down. they're out of ammo already, and so forth, mile, says, listen, let's learn some more of this meat in britain in germany . now they'll teach, and so forth. let's focus more. let's re-arm them and so on and see what happens. they say we'll defeat russia, they say we'll see what happens. that's all. understood you, but in fact, that's when i ask about this story here ah
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with talk about let's say so in the broadest sense of the word, but some peace agreements and negotiations on ukraine a. this is such a very interesting topic, which, in my opinion, before our eyes , is beginning to turn into one of the tools. uh, well, european anyway. eh, politicians. that is, it is, as it were, like this, and uh, like this, like a stick or a club or an instrument. well, look, for example, orban, how he uses this tool, it means, uh, our strikes are being made on critical infrastructure and ukraine says, what does it mean, uh, well, stop the pipe does not work, like nevsky on friendship. we can’t pump anymore, as if something burned out there, there is a light fuse, turned off everything, the oil does not pump. well, that is, as if cunning lads like that. now we are like this, according to the law of transitivity, they follow us, and we follow them. and then let them
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deal with the russians. well, they are very pleased with themselves orban, so they look at something. yes , somehow the oil does not go into the pipe, he says, something, in my opinion, it's time to start peace negotiations on ukraine. what is happening at this moment at this moment suddenly the light turns on suddenly transformer suddenly starts working and oil? suddenly, it seems to start to flow, that is, that is, the ukrainians are playing their game, and they are already starting to play with them, as if with the ideas of peace agreements, but here the question arises that when talking about peace agreements turns into a tool for solving problems. this brings peace agreements and peace closer or pushes them further. well, after all, here, it seems to me, there are several layers in your question, if we are talking about, uh, hungary, after all, it seems to me that this is really more about local bargaining. eh, after all
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there is not only a question in the supply of oil. let me remind you that hungary, uh, did not receive enough assistance, as is known from brussels, quite serious. this help was not provided to her, and hungary needs these several billion and, accordingly, hungary, in turn, blocks assistance to ukraine itself . this is also one of the reasons for ukraine’s behavior, which really rightly noted that there the subtlety of stopping supplies was that for some reason, deliveries stopped to hungary, and to a number of other states. they continued, that is, the transformer. there flew very cleverly. yes, that is, it turns out that exactly yes, it was precisely in hungary, exactly in hungary, uh, that we failed to put this uh, until the words about peace talks and, in fact, were heard. yes, i think that there was a hint that hungary would agree with uh help to ukraine, that is, in this
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regard, hungary is also engaged in such local bargaining, but in this story, but uh, that plast is more serious that you said before e hungary , he is of course associated with e, more powerful players, uh, and in this regard, the topic of peace negotiations, uh, on the part of the united states, of course, this is a different story than about orbán, and hungary here too. i agree that the conditional trumpists have a different logic than the e collective democrats. it is connected with the fact that part of the american elite, firstly, again, returning to what we said before, is nevertheless aware that the possibility of dragging the united states into military conflicts exists with the threat of using nuclear weapons, and this is already enough dangerous then there may occur. such a scenario, when just sitting out for several thousand kilometers,
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will not work, and this already creates a danger. and uh, makes you think about the possibility of a start. uh, at least some negotiations. what he says, says not only miles, but also others. uh, american politicians or business people start there from elon musk, who started talking about this a few weeks ago, and trump also had another argument. it is connected with the fact that well, in fact, we understand that this is really how it can look hypothetical if they assume, uh, the defeat of russia, respectively, well, how does it look in general, yes, that is, it is clear that there is at least the reality of a nuclear response, uh, from the russian federation no, i imagine it as something, uh, 90 1991 2.0. well, i doubt it. i still doubt that they did not reach at all. and another argument of trump, as you know, was that
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the main opponent of the united states in his logic, not the russian federation of china. therefore, if you doing things that reinforce china is bad. so, and the conflict in ukraine, of course, intensifies, china. here and here. it seems to me that the trumpists are very different from the democrats, who have a different logic; they believe that they are able to solve her russian problem and the chinese problem at the same time, provoking and pulling the dragon by the tail . they believe that they are so powerful. i think it's the republicans themselves. at least the trumpists, let's say, think a little, otherwise uh-huh, how are they more businessmen than politicians. they are more like careful and prudent, despite all the extravagance. well, actually, against the backdrop of all this talk about bidding, and negotiations, and fakes. eh, we'll talk now, just about a deal, which has been mentioned more than once.
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economic component, but primarily because of the political component and external and internal political component, and today again in the news. uh, so called uh, grain deal, uh the ministry of foreign affairs of the russian federation announced its extension the russian side allows the extension of the black sea initiative without any changes in terms and scope we took note of the intensification of the work of the un secretariat to fulfill its obligations to remove obstacles russian fertilizers and food, all these issues must be resolved within 120 days, for which the package deal is extended, it should also be absolutely clear that any attempts to use humanitarian corridor. in the black sea, provocative military purposes will be resolutely suppressed. well, i understand that the ministry of
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foreign affairs should speak in such a language, but here i am translating it for myself. maybe i 'm wrong, but translating this for myself. i draw the following conclusion from this that the un secretariat has stepped up work for us, but promised that as a result of this activation, in 120 days they will remove the obstacle to the supply of russian fertilizers and food, which means now there is and has not been stopped. that is, they promise us to continue activation. and we responded, uh, well, like real, well, real action. yes, but an interesting construction, given that, uh, about the same grain deal. after all, we perfectly understand who we are dealing with, and the president of the russian federation , and already specifically about this grain deal , said that those who offered it to us. they deceived us. in my opinion, even said, they deceived again, and here it arises. uh, interesting. i have a question. from
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what i understand, this is a very difficult job. this is a whole complex. something we see, something we don't we see, but nevertheless, and the point is not only in how the ministry of foreign affairs formulates it. here is the press secretary of the president of the russian federation dmitry peskov. e. well, the same decision like this there is an assurance from the united nations that the work to ensure the export of russian food and fertilizers will be finalized there is a statement from the us to the uk and the eu on exemptions in the sanctions regime for russian exporters of food and fertilizers. this is important promotion. again, i probably, and even for sure , do not understand everything about how such transactions are made. but what i understand is exactly that the question arises as to whether it is possible for them to finalize first. and then we extend. and i'm talking about a lot of economic
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and political and so on components. well , let's start, probably, with the political ones in your opinion, how would you explain, if you can somehow explain our next one. well, let's call a spade a spade, our next readiness to go on some concessions in the form of trust to people who either do not deserve trust at all usa uk and the eu, because the president said that they have already deceived us once. well, in general, an assurance. he is also so-so not very strong matter, but nonetheless. we again give, as it were, a certain chance to either do or deceive again. do you have an explanation for this to understand the classics has already been said. and you can have chairs in the morning in the evening, money is possible, but the money is in advance. er, it had to be done anyway. i mean, uh, suspend. this is a zer- deal to freeze it, but unfortunately, apparently, there are some circumstances about which we are
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not aware. what circumstances could it be that somewhere gave way to us elsewhere? yeah, that is, quite far away from this grain deal, they gave way to us like that, and, frankly , i hardly believe in such complacency of the russian side, especially after the words that the president said, that's why i think that we are talking about a package deal , that is, for us, this is not a black sea initiative and not a grain deal. for us, this is a package deal, where the grain deal is one of the components. yes, and russia, even in the statement of the ministry of foreign affairs, quite clearly understood that if you, uh, we will hit the arrogant red face, that is, if a step to the side is a jump on the spot, like a provocation, then the deal will go to hell, because we are we guarantee you i think that uh on these terms and, uh, that other part of the deal that we are not aware of, perhaps we should not be aware of, it is long-playing for some reason at 120
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exactly 4 months actually. uh, dragged this deal out. e, s. well right. we interrupt it at any at any moment. here, but uh, apparently. and this agreement that exists between russia if the united kingdom and the united states is a very interesting set. by the way, yes. here uh guarantees he's an institution. he. uh, i think they gave way to us somewhere, and hmm very well, but they can’t say about it, because it will look like a loss of face by our western partners. yeah, that's why, to be honest, i am. well i honestly even fantasize on this i don't want a topic. i think that in a month or two we will find out about this simply. why am i asking about um and well, i really don’t want to fantasize, but i want some kind of understanding within the framework of this topic with not very understanding, because, firstly, i repeat once again, the president has already said more than once, that they deceived and, as it were, there is no
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reason to assume that they will not be deceived this time. but nevertheless, we are going to something. yes? come on, judging by the trends that are currently observed on the market, it is possible that we are talking about a partial withdrawal sanctions for with russia for russia as a country for a western country for a western country, this is, well, a sickle in tender places. they don’t even want to talk about it in their thoughts that’s why they are so sensitive that’s why we probably showed such an understanding, we are talking not only about grain and fertilizers, maybe we are talking about other things, especially since the sanctions are in different places in different places direction slowly began to really shoot, right? it's a medical fact, yes it's a medical fact, but when i clarified for the country russia, uh, the question is, uh, are we talking about lifting sanctions on the russian state or as part of a deal from lifting sanctions on individuals? i know what you are hinting at. yes, you will notice that i did not say this. and you understood me correctly
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, the owner, who was completely 100% cleared from the sanction, i will not name his last name. she is known in narrow circles, let's say, and apparently. this is also a game from the west ahh, which is designed to ensure that the rest of the large owners continue to put pressure on the leadership of russia aha well here, in fact, i didn’t say, but you understood everything. yes, but i actually, what i'm talking about, here i can economically offer. now i just want to hear the economic version of your, uh, the same thing. why am i asking this question because , well, for example, when we talked there in the finalization , the fulfillment of conditions. well, for example, here we are talking about fertilizers. well, that is, softly, for example, the same one, well, we are already now that president zelensky as a condition for continuing the supply of our ammonia through the history of ukraine put forward? well, in my opinion, with a guarantee, the impracticable demands for the exchange of all prisoners of war for all prisoners of war, given that we apparently have them. eh, well, as if more, if not in order,
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then at times, that is, when entering into a deal, we already know that zelensky makes impossible demands on ammonia, and in this sense, all these guarantees from the united states to great britain and a. he, well, as it were, already a phone call is one phone call. well, as we discussed in the first part of the program, it turns out that even ten cuffs are not always enough. and yet one telephone a call, and everything will be yes yeah, in your words, therefore, against this background, we are still doing it, so we have some reasons, perhaps economic ones, and you know them, please, well, i can offer you one of the hypotheses. uh, add exclusively economic . here is a country that has not yet been mentioned, well, which is, yes, you have it painted on the floor, and turkey because, uh, the economic interest in turkey is direct erdogan. he said bluntly that the latest agreements mean that grain will be processed into flour in turkey and then
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turkey will sell flour on the market, therefore, it has a direct economic interest. you also have a direct economic interest in turkey today, er, december 5th. e, the sixth and eighth package of european sanctions comes into force, which imply a ban on offshore oil supplies to the european union, as well as a ban on european companies to work with russian oil when delivering to a third country in the absence of a mechanism. despite the fact that so far no one has fully explained what it is for mechanism and separate price. ceiling prices, well, no one called. actually. what price will be the limit, although the package has been published for a long time, but no one says. how much will it cost there plan, of course, uh, greek ship owners, for example, they find themselves in a difficult situation. they need to load tankers already, and they
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may be there on december 6 to find out that they are under sanctions, because it is not known. well, that is, what should be the price. uh, for this oil, so , in fact, turkey in this regard is performing the role of exports to turkey, which is quite important for us , has grown significantly. that is, they act as such a hub that repackages this oil. so, uh, it is further supplied, including to the european market, because our oil will still remain on the european market in one form or another. there can be a very complicated one, for example, a number of, uh, middle eastern monarchies refines russian oil and supplies oil products to europe or buys it, for example, for its own refineries. there is even a case when, uh, russian oil is bought for a kuwaiti plant in vietnam, and then delivered. uh, again, the introduction of products. that's just it can be, the exchange of turkey needs grain for flour, we need turkey to continue the supply of oil money. i'll just end up saying that a lot of people don't
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like talking about money. we have there many people say, let's go there, uh, let's go to moscow suggested money would be very difficult. even those who call for toughness and checkers. well, checkers is not in the sense of the game. but in a sense, no. yes in that sense from the point of view of the version that you said, alexey alekseevich, it is possible that what you just said is very interesting, but this, uh, as if no one announced a price ceiling. perhaps the same concession. uh, the west well, in the us, great britain, in general, the west is that the very concession to us is outside the grain deal, and it could be something like that, in terms of price, for example. well, i think that still, in terms of price, this will be a separate story, especially since the european union is itself to the end. that is it such a controversial story on the one hand. he came up with a tough sanction from the other side. actually scary. e ourselves, because this
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can lead to a serious imbalance in the market. uh, they themselves will need to close a lot of holes and it's far from certain that this will go smoothly, especially. if you remember what many people forget that in february they should launch a ban on the supply of petroleum products from russia in february, the next part of the sixth package russian diesel plays an important part in european energy security. they already have there are serious problems with diesel stocks. that is, in this regard. on the one hand, they seem to have measured this tough measure on the other hand. i do not rule out that without a grain deal. for some time, a situation may arise when the ceiling will be called the one under which the main russian supplies. so e what is called passes understood? well, that is, roughly speaking, we find out that from an economic point of view, in principle, there is a certain potential for agreements that are mutually beneficial, and for us and for western countries, because they themselves have created for themselves, well, a rather
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complicated story with all these packages they don’t know how to jump on it. or maybe there are some options for exchanges outside the grain deal, and plus there really is, turkey a, which in a strange way does not appear here at all, as if it does not exist, but it does exist, and what other considerations are sergey about why it keeps happening. and what can be really, more precisely, what is exactly beyond the scope, but which of these, do you think, can be beyond the framework of the grain deal itself, which i absolutely agree with here. apparently, this is such a tip of the iceberg that we are all shown, and under it there is, as it were, a lot of things i just want to add in fact. the scheme of the deal is absolutely obvious, no conspiracy is needed here at all, turkey is such a key vital partner for us, turkey is turning into the most important one right before our eyes. here is a gray hub through which all foreign and domestic trade will go for russia in the coming years, uniquely no one will
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can allow such freedom of action compared to turkey, neither kazakhstan nor armenia , they are all dependent, but turkey is the southern flank of nato, so erdogan is allowed to do almost everything he wants . and what is there to discuss turkey makes excellent money turkey processes grain into flour, earns its added value, plus gains a reputation as a country that will feed the entire islamic world, the poor and this flour will go. there north africa to asia is not the point important europe does not get flour is also an important consideration, because in europe they do not need turkish flour either. we needed raw materials for redistribution, but russia well, what if the russian people who agreed with them, er, the complex school of the nineties, they perfectly understand that you have to pay for the service? yes, you have to pay for the service, so there is no need to complicate anything from here. the only thing
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i would like to add is, well, since it sounded like this a little, it's convoluted. uh, how to formulate mfa i really. i also think that but an adult serious men agreed on a purely commercial deal. they did their job, and then on whom, well, the power of the functional is entrusted with the duty, and to formulate and voice the meanings to reassure the people of the population. here, in order to avoid this evil, ours out of the blue , we need not to get rid of meaningless comments and the same meaningless briefings. but, well, sit down to work a little, write to explain in russian that people are stupid. all people do not understand that someone listened to us didn't understand what was going on. everything is fine. we have earned, the turks, have earned transnational corporations that own grain also earned. i'm just within the framework of this about what you say people are stupid. and so they
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listened to us and did not understand anything. i ’m standing here right now and i think that some people didn’t understand too much from what we just discussed with alexei aleksech, the conversation is somewhere else the conversation is that you can still just a little more, well, let’s put it this way clogged. since you signed up. i think mfa does his job, as he should do it, but all the same, you described our benefit to turkey right here in its entirety, and you can be a little more happy for our benefit for turkey. i will explain. why is there no hype, no israel , nothing, but i just know that our agricultural producers are in a very difficult situation. that is, we have a record grain harvest this year . those who have this grain to store with us, they store it. they sell it. because there are no prices and those who have nowhere to store it, they sell it at junk prices and in fact, many of these people do not work to zero. they work in the red and in this sense, if this is a deal for whatever it is, we didn’t exchange it importantly, but nothing will give us here at all. it's like a dangerous story. yes, despite the fact
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that i understand that, uh, so to speak, state sepsia is allocated to manufacturers and so on. everyone will receive it, not everyone will receive it separately . still. here. well, for us, what is such an obvious benefit for turkey, i understand, this is not about our agricultural producers. yes, for us western border is closed, indeed, the sanctions imposed by the european union are very heavy. we need to import a lot of things and they need to be ported a lot of things, accordingly, what remains for us remains for us, or china with. first, specific buyers. secondly, there is the transport capacity of the trans-siberian railway, but it is limited, among other things, the southern corridor remains, turkey remains, therefore turkey closes it. eyes on everything now, where russian companies are opening, well, a representative office in istanbul and dubai, basically. here. actually how the whole alignment would be, because not on those not on those, but here are our two key trading economic partners. that is why the turks are allowed to earn money, and to the delight of everyone, i understood everything. one more
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nuance. i will add. actually. russia is also not interested in bending the transnationals to the full there again, who own this ukrainian grain, it was grown in ukraine, but it has an owner. it's some kind of cardioconditional corporation. yes? naturally, why should they suffer there from zelensky should not? we also trade with them. we also do business with them. uh-huh that's it, there is absolutely nothing criminal in this. so, with regard to the turks, but here we have such a situation. there is either resentment, or it’s there that the great turan and the turks have their own interests, it’s good that they have their own interests to normally conduct business with people. who know how to formulate their interest, what they want and understand your interest. and in general, as i would like. let's do good business with people who have their own interest and who are good at it. formulate. if at the same time you clearly formulate your interest. and, as it were, your interest, it is in the broadest sense your interest. because
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, well, i hope that the benefits that the russian federation will derive from the fact that you described trade with turkey and this will somehow help us as our agricultural producer, because well, the name of how to shut it all up also not possible. that's why, well, they explained it in this sense, as if i understand. in short, the main product that was exported with ukraine within the framework of first deal. it's corn in that regard. it wasn't in direct competition. as you say, we produce and sell our products, mainly not corn, that is, in this regard , there is a difference in goods. this also needs to be kept in mind. this is a very important addition. that is, roughly speaking, the fact that this deal will continue, and there is not everything there, as it were, in grain and in this sense. yes, that's important too. and i think that when you said that you can
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big twenty, and there is a pin who, on the eve of u, talked to u, three before and labor. means it accused china of meddling in canadian elections. in general, he leaked the whole thing to the newspapers. a. well , as it were, just sitimpin very politely, but harshly approached him on the fields of this very one yourself, this is to talk about the fact that here, and the west is the crown there, this is canada for a minute. yes, there a member of a sharpened pin approached him further, listening to the conversation of the word, tanality, even more watching than listening. everything we discussed. it leaked to the papers yesterday. this is unacceptable. if we are talking about frankness, then we must respect each other, otherwise it will be difficult to say how it might end. canada believes in open and honest dialogue. we will continue to work constructively together, but
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there will still be things that we will disagree on. let's create a condition first. why did i say that it is even more necessary to watch than to listen, because it is clear that a pin is sitting. he approached him with undisguised disgust. he can afford to show him that, well, i think a lot . and this is me, because everything what to talk about. by the way, when you are dealing with people who have their own interests, uh, you need to remember who you are, what your interests are, here sisinpin in this conversation, he showed that for him this whole story is that there is some, as it were, the west there, which, here it is, is absolutely self-sufficient in this conversation, because
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it understands that it has been its own country for these 30 years. ah, more precisely, over these 30 years, his country understood where it came from and where it was going, and it is. we all know, if you look at the photo, what china was at the end in the eighties and early nineties, when we started to say so, here, too, somewhere these were like this, china was like this china was and people knew where they were going and knew what they wanted to achieve and did everything for this and worked for this the whole country. and now as a result, so after 30 years, the leader of china can like this, well, i will not determine what he did with this canadian prime minister. well did it seems to me a very attractive example. the information channel on the
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first continues its work, we work live broadcast program. time will show anatoly kuzichev with you. today, russia launched massive missile strikes on the infrastructure of ukraine and according to ukrainian politicians. for the first time, gas infrastructure facilities were destroyed even a. you see gas production e-e in dnepropetrovsk in addition, the southern machine-building plant in the odessa region is on fire, eyewitnesses report an arrival from a military unit. zhytomyr is also under attack. but here is what alexander germanovich would like to clarify with you. uh. what does it mean? for the first time, gas production facilities were destroyed, this some new stage. this is a new tactic, and not so new anatolia. because if you look, we started destroying the railway infrastructure investors in the summer. i recall the story of the bridge, so to speak, cherkasts, a railway bridge, which was never restored, which actually did not interfere with the supply of regular supplies to part of the ukrainian army. and now the gas infrastructure is a completely natural course following the
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electrical infrastructure, this is how the energy industry is interconnected and electricity can be generated with the help of gas there are gas generators and on this occasion, since there will be no gas now, it will be, roughly speaking, hellishly hungry, cold and disgusting, and i think that they are fully aware of how the inhabitants of donbass lived during these long long years eight years. so nothing special of the same logic, so to speak, but shutting down according to the structure, that is, turning off the rear, roughly speaking, as it is, but dmitry gabidovich. uh, a question for you about right there, yes, gas production, but gas production. uh, it does not intersect with the gas transportation system. i understand correctly, but if transportation takes place from the mining system, then it crosses at the drums. accordingly, the main task for the mining structures is, first of all. my understanding is that it's worth bringing aside negotiations on those permits for physical infrastructure. first of all, it's electric. accordingly, gas supply i remind you that ukraine produces gas.
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here, accordingly, of course, not in such volumes as to fully meet the need for external procurement funds, and do not accumulate in lifting gas storage facilities, which are located on the perimeter tomorrow, are approximately not enough now, about 5 billion cubic meters, at least. here, taking into account the fact that the heating period is a cold period. he, well, a large part of ukraine's main consumption points comes around this week. here it is, respectively. this, of course, can become serious problems because the lack of power supply, electricity supply in a negative temperature regime, respectively, can lead to the marginalization of such an exemplary ukraine it was very tragic that here, well, until february. that's when, respectively, the city was completely frozen out, practically, understandably, understandably. yes, what can be clarified for me , please, but download the structure. let's quote our colleagues who have just been on the air of the big game program, so there is, so to speak, a factor in waging a successful war is the capture of enemy territory is the destruction
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of the enemy army and or the destruction of the enemy's rear . uh-huh, you know, without a rear, there is no war, so to speak, and there is no army. actually. it is now this is happening now. this is the rear, this is the goal, this is the task, but the change of regime. it's, uh, michael, it's all derivative. this is all a derivative of victory, you understand? what's the matter? these are the tools of victory, that's the whole point. we're just going to talk more now. michael if you have any questions. we will answer them, although in theory. i think another scenario of the ulcer program seemed to be answering questions. well, as you know, uh, they brought tosov. let's read it, then this is an official message from the ministry of defense of the russian federation with high-precision missile strikes of the russian aerospace forces in pavlograd, dnepropetrovsk region, destroyed the workshops of a defense enterprise for the production of fuel and rocket engines for the ukrainian army. this is the first answer to your question. zaporizhzhia destroyed the workshops of the scientific production of the complex, sparks, which were produced electronic components for the repair of radar stations by the ukrainian army and multiple launch rocket systems the second
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answer to your question we continue to work live . the day before yesterday evening, many impressionable people, like me, of course, a little, so to speak, some cramps and parts of the body cramped and the heart sank, because when they went, then the messages were like this, well, in such a tough style, russia fired at russia, poland, russian missiles, so lord god, my only this is nobody else. well, what is it, then everything is a little bit. eh, so to speak, everything was explained a little, everything was resolved a little, and so on, but here is the interest. let's see the most interesting to follow the dynamics, of course, statements. volodymyr zelensky is gone, nothing more fascinating. see, er. first , it means that on the 15th, what zelensky said with a tense face, we are watching. terror is not limited to our state borders.
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today, russian missiles hit poland. russia is terrorizing us and everyone who can reach free people, terror will not break. i have no doubt in the reports to me personally from the commander of the air force and to the commander-in-chief, zaluzhny, that this was not our missile or not our missile strike. i have no reason to trust me, i went through a war with them, between other than that, literally a veteran. here, well, that's all, that 's what he says. yes, i understand that the second part of this speech of his, which i showed you. this, apparently, was the answer to some doubts that appeared that evening that you might not be russian, or maybe even ukrainian zelensky clearly and firmly said no. i trust the mortgaged and my military. i went to war with them. now joseph biden comes into the arena and says something. let's hear what's good. do you believe the proof of the word zelensky that the rocket that fell in poland
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was not ukrainian is this not proof? and here again zelensky goes on the air and also harshly says the following. i do not know what happened. this time we don't know 100%. i think the world doesn't know 100% either but i'm sure there was a russian missile and that we used air defense missiles but we have to be fair and honest until the investigation is completed we can't speak. what type of rocket was the debris that fell on the territory of poland and where is the terror. and where is the rhetoric, and where is russia in everything guilty and so on? hello where is everything, in general, where is everything mikhail gennadievich no, i understand, i'm not to impress. i'm talking about what to say, look what amazing flexibility, but i'm not a specialist in call, psychology, psychology from vertebrates, but nonetheless. forgive me in your very first speech. yes, and zelensky very beautifully set up his
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competitor, who is being prepared for him by a change of master, this moment, so to speak , god is decorating kherson with us, ataman zaluzhny. i think that zelen does not like it very much. well accordingly, he was elegantly framed, that, like, i have nothing to do with it. here is a man. i believe he is near. no. i owe him the strength of his position. so he tells me, i'm broadcasting to you. everything. uh-huh, if anything, if anything, is wrong, then these are all questions there next, the owner says, no-no-no words of this clown are not evidence. we need something tangible, it is clear that the dream of a and bandera and the dream of the british is to draw it into a direct conflict with russia but the americans. this is completely unnecessary, understandable to the poles. this absolutely not necessary, so it was very clearly visible, and which of the american satellites, so to speak, is interested in fomenting a conflict. yes
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, who is interested in maintaining its current degree, it was unpleasant for me that finland suddenly played in the country of england, which, of course, loves us very much since the winter war and never stopped loving, despite all the money that she earned from us, but nevertheless. now, what is called, she got out cooler than estonia. although maybe estonians, just a little were delayed, maybe the estonians were a little delayed, as it sometimes happens? wait a week. they will make such a statement to you more after biden said that the words from zelensky are not proof. you understand , uh, zelensky's situation is very difficult, because the money is from america and the control is from england, and he cannot afford it. how would one play to say something that does not quite correspond to american instructions, that his cash flow will be reduced, and on the other hand, he cannot but justify the instructions of his english curators, because then
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someone else can become president, then listen, then it turns out like you said, there invertebrates both flexible vertebrates have amazing flexibility, it is explained, in general it is actually quite elegant in their arrangement, blame everything on a delusion. i believe my commander-in-chief so to speak. and he says that it ’s not us, and here all the questions are, respectively, to whom, but to the negderian commander in chief. that's what he says, you know what's the matter. simple, well, generally elegant. yes, i thought it was easy clown so such so to speak, spineless. and this is a maneuver. i have seen even from this situation, at least three lessons are possible, if the first and most important one, of course, is the president. er, because in the case of the president of ukraine, e is largely dependent on his subordinates. he himself is not able to run to poland and control what has flown in there, of course, he feeds on information from his military and the defense administration in the first place, what was reported to him, then, he is a powerful generalization, but it seems to me that any leadership depends on their
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subordination depends on his subordinates second. uh. i think it's a lesson. this is an amazing military conflict in general, when with such technical means, and all the time there is no reliable information. it's just amazing they can't establish who fired where, when and how, and this applies to a large number of these incidents. what about biden? this is in my opinion, the third lesson is that this is an interesting position, not only the united states but also, uh, block of rope socrates is my friend, but the truth is dearer. oh, they don't want to. uh, sprawl keyword true or still interesting, so people well let. there will be interest in this case, but the fact that they are striving with all their might to avoid the growth of this conflict of their direct involvement in this conflict is , it seems to me, obvious. that you are right, absolutely michael i know how much you
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question. well, you say, well, what do you think is necessary, but they answered. uh, just for my interest, so that i understand, in general, when you need proof, when you don’t need it, because it’s canoe, but absolutely rightly said absolutely, well, a clear thing. he said it was not proof. whatever the word. well, it's beautiful, well, sometimes there are such circumstances, such situations in the world, when you don't need proof. i'm trying to understand, and when they are needed, when they are needed i know the answer, but what do you think, it's always necessary. yes, even shares the fields. yes exactly yes, because yes, and because, if you paid attention, then about the violins. the next day we were appointed guilty about the boeing us the next day ordered wine. what an interest. a few years later , the trial began, then it lasted for another year. years, years, years, so, in my opinion, it did not end, but we appointed , er, guilty the next day. yes, and there was no need for evidence, but here he says that this cannot be proved. i always say that evidence is needed. yes, especially when a is a fiery unfounded
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accusation against the united states for example. well, my favorite example is bioweapons, but i don't want bonds. i want to get in, but proof is always needed. thank you biden said he most likely this is a ukrainian rocket 100 dollars ukrainian rockets, and stoltenberg already said that, most likely, this is a ukrainian rocket, even porsche a says the same thing, and i was very pleasantly surprised when peskov said that he praised little, uh, the united states is unusually put when he said that he said that it is very anal there. yes, that's why it happened this time. i don't know why the wiring says and the stick shoots. well, what about herself? ked and here is a very interesting point. this is about how it is now extremely true. uh veli yourself that the s3 is in the arsenal of both ukraine and russia, and it seems that these are precisely the missiles from the s300
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that hit the e, mistakenly on the porsche uh-huh, and sometimes in general it sometimes said that it was wrong. can be used offensive e-missile and russia sometimes use s-300 s300 missiles how to attack? and kazakhstan will not let me lie, sometimes they use it, in principle, the united states could arrange a provocation, since the s300 and the russian channel, or they could yes, but they didn’t want to because, as tatyana semyon correctly noted, not everyone wants it is precisely to blame everything on russia and believe that it would be very convenient here. ah. the prospects are tempting, but if you think about the next step, well, yes , it was easy to slander, and the next step that you blamed on russia what is the next step, but it turns out that russia deliberately surrounded the territory later, so something needs to be there - then connect the fifth article. take everything,
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so, well, they connected even further all the time it is tempting to whom the opponents that the united states wants to incite. this conflict is very exactly where to so that they don’t say this to russia in this court, they don’t say that to russia, the judges say, no, judges do it, they always say that there are, of course, interested parties, just look yes, kindle it, and so on. moreover , i said this yesterday and in the last month i’m saying everything the only chance for ukraine, it is to involve nato, this is a direct confrontation with russia, this is the only citizen who understands and tries to make the americans have their task. no, do not search, it is not the task to maintain a conflict at this level. he constantly was not splashed out of the frame spilled over the current rocks to all the time what does he say all the time? that's the point. ukraine succeeded in drawing the us into this conflict, no nato. i said no, it did not work, thank god, because it was necessary too. well listen. you are not suicidal. that's right, please, you must
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answer. thanks anatoli. i would tell michael what you know, you are right and wrong at the same time in my opinion. but this, of course, is my subjective opinion. firstly, well, yes, you are absolutely right that the range of the s-375 dash is 240 km, depending, from what you can lead when e, determining the target, a ground target is not necessarily an air target, it can hit the earth because this polyvalent missile has several functions, but in russia globa hokk was in the air at the same time as the missile was launched. uh-huh is poisoned by the american, and by the drone and this device. naturally, he tracked all the narrow satellite tracking systems america has. uh-huh . moreover, it is connected to all satellite systems and france, great britain and other less significant strange, like italy, which, by the way, has its own the satellite system, of course, the american one is the best in reality, so i’m not insecure, therefore, in any case, if such a statement were made by biden, the russian side would immediately demand decryption, let’s say the protocol,
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let the missiles and america as one of the main world , powers. i couldn’t help but provide this, because it would be about the beginning of a world conflict, so no one in this case wanted to accuse america of starting a war, we are talking about other things that america can be beneficial a war in europe with the gradual burning of european resources and a shift in the center of the world economy in the pacific ocean. but this is a completely different goal. agree than planetary earlier, of course. you are achieved, it is by completely different methods. you're right. the only thing that can be clarified is the question. this is brilliant, well, indeed, in the american satellite tracking system, it launches any way. maybe, so to speak, track and see, in principle, she, after all, any guns, because, but the hut also sees and sound yes, well, theoretically, yes. but it turns out. and why, then, until now, and why then until now, if everyone has already appointed russia as the perpetrators for shooting down the malaysian boeing for this tragedy and where? well, where is this thing, if the american great coolest system of tracking satellites, i don't understand
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anatoly i'm sorry. i think your question contains the answer. yes, what will happen to you? maybe there was not even a whole letter, or maybe a fighter, but this is already dark water in the area. we don't know, but america is silent. you're right, absolutely she does not want how many years already. and amazing, really. mystery michael is a mystery. so let's go now. let's see which ones. well, it's clear that there is such a history of the jamb. at first, too, on the first day, they were hyper-excited and hysterical. everyone was shouting, like we would, we'll see what else to do with them, meaning we have, and then a little degrees, of course, went down. yes, uh, well , nevertheless, the words have already been spoken and you know, here, as for zelensky, this is it e, his reaction is his persistence in his, so to speak statements they actually, maybe, really. it was a political maneuver planned to put an unmarried one there, but in the west. i think this is treated as such to native mobile games and is not very interesting. they have a task goal and so on. and look what the times lantern writes about these comments.
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zelensky undermines nato's confidence in ukraine with his statements. they are involved in the missile incident in poland, a diplomat from one of the countries of the alliance told the finational times this is becoming funny ukrainians are destroying self-confidence, no one blames ukraine but. they openly lie. it 's more destructive than a rocket. well said, where did they write the file that it is the times? yes, it's more destructive than a rocket that they openly lie. this is the first second so we can give you up to ten. uh, so to speak, to bring similar quotes of considerations and analytics in this key. well, here's one of the brightest here's another such leader of the uk reform party started farage, asks a question. is it possible in principle, he was remember ideology is so consistent. eh, can zelensky be trusted in principle? and then i'll read it to you. i think his words meant russia attacked nato please do something and the main issue of today's debate. can we really trust zelensky and
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his conclusion? dim, i don’t know, uh, we have reason to think, so to speak, that this is so to say, that this is some kind of trend, they are some kind of flashes of reaction to a particular performance. there was a lot of talk about red lines here. this is what she really is and she distinguishes in sa- but in fact the situation of the malaysian god after the malaysian boeing did not start with the third world war and an exchange of blows was necessary, because the situation in which as a result we could wake up, it would suggest only one exit in fact, or an exit , which is completely ignored. then, accordingly, all points, as it were, articles, as it were , nato were very seriously eroded. here is the second option, if it involves an escalation that can no longer be controlled, in principle, and these those red lines that are actually drawn and these red lenses that are held by different players, which, well, it’s not difficult to blame it for the russian special, as it were, it’s more interesting, therefore, he perfectly understands this red line for him in that it’s not should survive precisely in the nuclear confrontation, which is logical and therefore all the main is imitated with n3 and therefore, if it burps, they agreed on everything related to astrological weapons. this is
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a pain point for him. this is really for him. divides the most dangerous component, when, respectively, in the usa the next day, natural information from the multifaceted train began, this began to press very hard, because for the most dangerous. what can it really be a question of, as it were, a really nuclear confrontation due to conflicts is the same as the introductory suffering is not borrowed or due to western sugar and even from afghanistan, this is very poorly perceived in the american market, moreover, by all political players. got into this question immediately on the same day, it starts with a trump and ends with a biden, because honestly they physically began to talk about it. this is a threat, it is, so to speak, on the basic component. this is a security issue, so even poland, which, as it were, actually said this only in the first hours. yes, already at night her comments became different, firstly, even when it became known that when it had not happened yet. it is known what kind of rocket this is immediately the first statement. poland was the first statement. remember that this is not an intentional blow, and it will not be repeated before before it became known that it was an anti-raht. yes. then it became clear that, accordingly , an attempt. just get away from this component and interesting questions. now, too, most likely, even if this happened, god forbid, as it were
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, there was some kind. another missile, all the same, it would all be tried in some way before the sanctions , some restrictions, but no one wants these questions. this once again suggests that this conflict is still in fact, it is very seriously localized. and if it were different turned around, it cannot turn around in any other way, in fact, in fact, because all the countries that are part of the landing there, who have already advised everything else, some of them are nuclear countries. yes, the uk can't just take it, even the uk can't just take it and say you know, here we are officially, of course. we are already participating in this, as if fully-fledged. therefore, from this point of view, this is actually very good. uh, very bad story, because that means two people died. here are more citizens in fact deed. it will be necessary to explain to their families why they died. interesting. that's the most important thing, in fact, everyone felt this border, because before that no one understood it. well, yes, tactical nuclear weapons do not correspond. naturally, opposition. no one understood where the border passes somewhere, and that night, more precisely, it was in the evening, if for sure this border was drawn absolutely everything along it, as if they were lined up. this is an important factor in what it is
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. this is the border, so the red line, which is all we searched together for all these several months for sure , and finally we did not come. look here. yes, here we are now there sometimes ironically red line, red lines. where are the red lines? today dima is right absolutely yes, everyone has a very clear and unambiguous consistency on both sides yes, an idea of ​​the red line that no one wants to cross and will not cross . and it’s understandable, please, well, firstly, and the famous fifth article of nato, it is not imposes a clear obligation to know. yes, it gives the right gives the opportunity. yes, as you wish, therefore, even when the issue was discussed in france in soviet times, it was clear that there was a country for which the united states would stand up. and there are strange costs, most likely, this situation will not remain in force, which means that everything was said absolutely correctly according to the american position. i can add small touches, and that's
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it. just a strategy, i can add protection , this is the correct reaction of the united states america who, once in a lifetime, did not want to lie for some reason, it was caused, including a demonstration of forces by the russian federation . yeah, if only it would be without our massive strike. well, just something flew into the territory of poland from the territory of ukraine, no one would argue. how many flies there from three hundred and so on is very likely, the consensus in america would be such that it is russian, so that one would have to follow the general mood regarding poland hmm the polish army is at war with the russian army on the territory of ukraine, though under the guise of mercenaries, but everyone already understands that this is not unemployed and these are not mercenaries, this is a regular formation of the polish army. as far as one can judge the second army in europe after the turkish one, however, there is good news, the third army,
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in my opinion, is not there. so they, uh, felt on themselves, uh, and on the stream of funerals that they are now receiving, that in general, after all, it’s probably not necessary, but to provoke russia to some here in relation to themselves once russia uh, do nothing with grzheg, i tell you with other transport hubs. well, that's not necessary, i see. well, what about the british, you know? i think that the british, especially as the immediate owners of zelensky , understand that trusting anyone in today's ukraine is not even funny, and you can’t even laugh at it. and this is the emotional reaction caused by the fact that they thought. and it was an accidental launch, in my opinion, here's the most interesting thing, of course, deliberately slandering, because there is a pull on it there, not far from it shtetl. there is. in general, places are very sensitive for infrastructure search. or
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was it a deliberate provocation, so to speak, it is an interesting attempt to draw in, when the tail starts trying to wag the dog, then the dog. i don't like it very much. and perhaps, uh, the english reaction is such yes from the side the opposition is not from the side of the office, by comparison, it is called diplomats, but third countries. here it is caused by the understanding that this may not be accidental. listen, yes, i understand mikhailovich thank you, but, if of course, well just some news from a parallel from a parallel uh with a parallel reality. here we discussed for you for proof of evidence, there were creaking and malaysian boeing there, i don’t know, the shelling of kramatorsk bucha yes, anything is not needed there. i especially go to the evidence, see zelensky said. this means that ukrainian specialists will take part in the investigation of the incident with the missile in poland, and then such, you know, such words are heard, under which one could subscribe if we did not know who said it and in what context. yesterday we received confirmation that us experts will take part in the
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investigation. this refers to the fall of a rocket in poland until the investigation is completed, we can not say for sure which missiles or part of them fell on the territory of poland end of quote, guys, american experts are investigating, and then let's say, grow them just the same, yes, but that's what in my walk comes after. and yes, what are you? well, of course, yes, zelensky set himself up when he rushed to a conclusion. now he will come to his senses, but the first impression, of course, is false. if i were in place, zelensky, i would say, completely different. i would say that ukraine a on tuesday fell into massive banderovkas, 90, and plus what was shot down, as they already said, and alexander does not lie, that for every attack, offensive missiles
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will need about five anti-missiles to beat, because there is a false whole and so on, so it's there, but if i were in place with the women's, i would say that but it's when under such massive banking that one of these rockets, because if it turns out about 500 500 one rocket, i realized lost its way. and i'm your minister of defense, what's his name luidosti on i'm like that. uh, vladimir yes, it's clear what you're saying, but you're demanding an extension of air defense russian, as far as i know, are not going to reduce the intensity of shelling. do i understand correctly that the more air defense we give you, the more different romanians and poles and bulgarians, etc. will follow from this western singer and more modern than the s300 therefore yes misses are much less and last. that is, i would admit, how would i admit that if 500 against rockets, of course, this is natural, or this is
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understandable. it may be one, but i would say that i missed, and i would have sucked on the russian kroms and that there are a lot of them. and the last thing is, of course. this is natural. and the last thing i would apologize, of course, to porsche is understandable. yes, he remembers there were some official apologies from the greens, no, nothing. yes, i did more. i mean in europe than whoever it is, but to help. well, he does n’t even catch home, he hardly asked such questions. if i were some kind of reporter, like, yes, uh, no i know, and they all sit openly listening to zelensky and are afraid of us, why is it so great, and they are listening to answers and so on. well , monstrously, of course, the level of your press is just some kind of baseboard. here, or even lower, but well, well, god bless him so i would know about my question. and tell me, please, but yes, in the conditions of 18 shelling of tra-ta-ta and everything else, missiles can fly in the wrong direction, well then, do i understand correctly that these are something that you often talk about like this with aspiration. here are
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the russians. again, they determined residential buildings, well, in different cities in kiev not in kiev there and so on, and the russians say that it's your own missiles that fall, so to speak air defenses, but it turns out that the russians may be right in this is too difficult. it turns out that a really large number of those strikes on residential buildings, about which you are attracting, are blaming the russians. it is possible that your strikes once the rocket may fly in the wrong direction. you understand, it's so difficult. if one out of 500 missiles misses, yes, it 's possible, but yes, it's understandable and two more people killed polish, please alexander do not have to deliver. are you laughing at the ukrainian missiles tried? see they are s-300s, we have been teaching them for so many years. we have taught them for three decades how to use these missiles. they still hit more. by the way, you will put your wonderful vaunted supernatural american new missiles. you see, in france, in short, there will be destruction of americans by american calculations , and this will already be an incident of whiteness, if
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an american misses a loving candle on the territory of poland, then everyone will definitely go to war with everyone, so it's definitely not possible to say more american history. thank you very much this case is not. well , actually yes, it is important to understand here. come on, this is not a new thought. it sounded here. well , you just need to understand that here i am, i'm just very afraid that it was not necessarily an accident. and about leaving michael, i repeat, if your only chance. it means that to win this war in this is to involve nato forces, it’s understandable, you will do everything in the world and any provocation. any meanness, any cynicism will do everything to draw in therefore, provocations or is it a big question mark we continue to work live and you know, here, we are often in this studio, well, we pronounce certain formulas there michael these include, so to speak, with skepticism badly hidden, his other colleagues
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disappeared somewhere , so to speak, european and north american here, and then it suddenly turns out that everything we said. well, or often everything that we say here, uh, turns out to be true, which is confirmed, for example, by the former president of ukraine, petro alekseevich poroshenko, russian pranksters vovan and lexus, they are the former president of ukraine, respectively, they played a prank, they introduced themselves as the former ambassador of america to russia , michael mcfon, respectively, poroshenko was quite sincere with michael and told michael how he thought why ukraine really needed the minsk agreements. why did you sign with them at all? let's listen to poroshenko do you agree that it was impossible to fulfill the minsk agreements? no, i think it's very talented, written document kamon i need there were these minsk agreements to get at least 4.5 years to form the ukrainian armed forces to build the ukrainian economy and
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train the ukrainian military together with nato to create the best armed forces in eastern europe that was formed according to nato standards look listen, well, we, well, we but they always said, and here, then, our ukrainian opponents spoke to us. and who said it, who is it? no, well, it's not official, it's unofficial, so to speak, a comment and so on. well here's what to me officially the former president of ukraine himself, who signed. this very agreement, it turns out, no one was going to them. uh, they needed to be done in order to get there, at least 4.5 years, to specifically form the ukrainian armed forces to build blah blah blah blah blah and so on and so forth, no one was going to do anything. yes , michael well, it seems to me that the same thing for russia russia also needed this time, and 8 years, you know, and they are crime, and sabotage in the donbass is just an appetizer, and the main dish is another again.
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once again, you signed the agreement and russia didn’t either, russia was not supposed to comply with the minsk agreements. you can say that there is and france signed germany signed no, michael signed them, ukraine i'm just saying that russia is needed. and for some reason in russia i ask you, do you like the time for you to want to cheer. well, do you want to talk? and is it an interesting question? no, you're answering a different question. where who is your imaginary friends, imaginary presenters - it's generally offensive to whose questions you answer. i'm telling you about ukraine and it will pass, about russia, you can say a lot there . us. probably, we also have something to say to be ashamed and embarrassed, probably, yes, but now in this case the questions are about something completely different ukraine, we had to win time. i agree. i added to this that russia had to gain time. that's all. it was i who said that both sides were not interested. in fact, the implementation of the minsk agreements, not russia, not ukraine, i'm talking about this. russia in general
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could not fulfill them, because russia was the guarantor of the fulfillment of one of several. well , do them. she could not. here's how to do it. here you can fulfill the minsk agreements, which if it was not a serious guarantor, because russia, how does germany turn out ? for example, like france . say in the public field is thrown into negotiations and accordingly. well, we have experience, after all, we are not, as they say, there is no not some fish there, whose memory is rather short, they talk for about four minutes, and then they reset to zero and all the colors of life are again for you, so to speak, e is new. we now understand that this is generally impossible, even theoretically, and this is some kind of pad. i don’t know alexander or not, it’s absolutely right in nature, but here you can agree on washing. i will state my position. it is very
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simple look at michael and as soon as now we have come to a certain phase of the conflict, immediately there was an order to prepare defenses for a long time industrial complex of france, germany and other western countries. in europe , it takes a year and a half for a wide supply of weapons; it turns out that at the time of the conclusion of the minsk agreements , ukraine deceived even its allies. i don’t know anyone france or germany, maybe the states, including, didn’t prepare for what ukraine did, that is, ukraine deceived everyone, but let me do it. let's believe. let's go, kvs. fap play will play like it's true, because in fact, if france germany other countries, according to my logic, would be in this conspiracy, then in this case, they would also deploy their defenses, the industrial complex and would not be in the situation of the present day, when they actually ran out of shells, no capacity, they need a year and a half to in order to somehow begin to establish the production of wartime products, and ukraine was ready. she was preparing the most powerful army in europe i'm
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finishing. that is a replica. thank you for your attention to the fact that france recognized in the person of its low generals and in the default journal in final, namely the ukrainian army is the most powerful army in europe in february of this year. yes, i am especially pleased, because we are smashing this army, so excuse me, but i was preparing for this. but we do it. well, here, that is, no, i mean, this is the confession of poroshenko, who we all knew all this, but now she officially puts this confession of poroshenko. so to speak, such a stamp, is the contract suitable for this whole company, so to speak, or not? no, but, in my opinion, yes, the fact is that poroshenko cannot speak differently maybe his signature is there under this signature, he was subjected to heavy fire, and inside the country he was fired as soon as he didn’t. but the most important thing is that he allegedly tried to make , uh, a strong army, corruption ate everything there and the conflict showed. uh, specifically a military operation, which at the initial stage without western weapons, the
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ukrainian army. it would not have lasted long, they say, it's april there, and that's it. and that's where it 's already over. poroshenko is, of course. to whitewash yourself today and that's what it comes down to rhetoric. he is trying to say that, at that stage, everything was. maybe, this is, of course, a reflex, but a fact, it says that they really didn’t do anything from what they took on. well, here's a fact, i, uh, i also want to say that any agreement is not only an agreement on what is written on some pieces of paper, as a rule, there is a set of issues that are resolved in parallel and which are not even declared as objects of settlement in this or that agreement, of course, to all those e actors who participated were involved in this conflict, including the donbass, and luhansk needed peace, of course, at that stage it was necessary. eh, to reach
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an agreement to lay down arms to think about how and what will happen tomorrow to find a political formula for a settlement, so, uh, there are certainly things that are prescribed. it was necessary to have peace and they tried to achieve this, but poroshenko, but certainly. he can't even appreciate it differently today. this is his brainchild. yes, mikhail gennadievich and how about this, well, you know us in this audience is very many ukrainian. no, you remembered them at an early time, but at an early one, and then they calmly sneer at the street and says, of course we are morons. we threw you morons threw you. what do you think, that we are capable of falling out of some kind of obligation ha-ha-ha uh to people with a guppy memory, i can remind you that ukraine for all the time of its independence since 90, in my opinion, the first year has not fulfilled any of the signed ones agreements the only exception is the
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notorious budapest memorandum, because she couldn't pay it. they didn’t even ratify it, the only one, in my opinion, to study, but in this story it’s much more interesting who our pranks pretended to be. yes, because mcfull, if, of course, i'm not mistaken, i can be wrong. as far as i understand, makfu is a unique case in the history of world diplomacy, when an intelligence officer of one country is an ambassador of the other side, a diplomat of the other side, this is a unique example. well, anything can happen, of course, but at the same time, these two countries are formally independent of each other. and this is one of the reasons why, for example, when he worked for us, they did not let him in the cream. so demonstrative. hi, we understand who it is ah, so answer, so comrade sir. sorry poroshenko citizen. more precisely , he reported to two of his curators at the same time. and this uh, so to speak, gave him
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some. i see, i understand dimka give a short comment. uh, at least mcfall once attended the kremlin, he received this literacy. well, when did you get it? yes, and not just once. here it is the question is the next question is that ah here the problem is in the agreements. and what to tie them to, so that they are fulfilled by any agreement. just like that, the prisoners themselves never perform on their own, respectively, tools of pressure on the parties, as if all sides of this process, as if, respectively, did not get enough. so to say that there the russian federation at that moment was not interested in this, for example, how to say that, as it were, for example, no actions were taken from outside, but separate acts to push it all somewhere , too, not quite, respectively, these questions. it turns out in another. what tools were there to bring it to the end in that format , some kind of it was supposed to be, but this is the main question that still rested after the political driver left. so i came there activated all these pas. he agrees that they dragged zelensky there, he began
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to break down along with the macron, so that he would normally sign 500 into the stanamir formula, and then the situation changed immediately after he changed administration is simple, because all agreements operate on a certain format. another person came to you, respectively, who naturally flirts with the president and the situation has changed. as by the way, with everything else, the same applies here. all agreements, all agreements are executed only when a certain agreement is not tied. why is she a shitty department, because you are interested, turkey she will beat her head now in order to fulfill, if you have, there some economic interest or some economic bond. you can always find opportunities to do it. and if one side is not interested, not for economic or political reasons, to complete this decision, then it will not complete it. the problem is that someone in this case was not interested in the performance of ukraine. let's figure it out from the very beginning . why, naturally, poroshenko went on vacation, as if he came in. he understands that after him political problems will begin and everything else personal life. in extreme cases, that’s for sure, because then he’ll hang up rather, well, do something with him . yes, what is there, respectively, zelensky
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came to one in a separate position, as if he was dragged into this sentencing process, he really did not want to go into it, but he was dragged under political influence. if the mornings were second-rate, most likely, they would have been crushed. the question is different . what has changed is the astropolitical market situation for the kid near the players. and those who pressed accordingly, they left in this case without any economic impact, if tomorrow they canceled the imf assistance, as was done there by el salvador, for example, yes or something else like that? well, for example, by the way, you say no, there is no possibility. there the pressure of enforcement methods is there. but 14, with zeros, i remind you, i remind you that, for example, if there is an agreement, respectively, associations. it assumes deliveries, in addition to, like this, because of already these yes, respectively, ten percent. you all have an economy, therefore, it collapses. here you can take it, respectively, just how to limit the transitivity of the components of the dough, that is, there is a lot of consumption, how is this solved? look there in southeast asia, there is a calm one. the question is different. yes, as far as washington itself was at that time interested in the fact that the minsk agreements were implemented here and to respond themselves. on this question with a high degree of
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probability, but it would be difficult to imagine imagine for a second. he comes out of afghanistan now has only one external political one for him, so there is a defeat from above, then all this is in parallel with this minsk agreement. moreover , these minsk agreements, which were actively stoked and wanted to be regulated, as if this one, but trump or another degree, therefore, from this point of view, the inside political factor turned out to be more important for them. it's always more important. the truth is more important than all this put together, if this was the reason for the trapedo to finish off, as if he were doing anything to some kind of political effect, as if from this , therefore, from this point of view, it is necessary to analyze the entire external component. we very often misunderstand all processes from different angles. they do not understand the results of these processes over time, because we do not analyze what are the real driving belts of these conflicts. no, well, maybe we really don't understand. well, we roughly imagine that just a signature on, so to speak, is not enough, which means if it is not secured by someone else's interests. and if it is not provided with some kind of sanctions in one form or another, there is a tool. coercion pressure and so on, we understand all this, if
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i think this, we again understand that in any contract , so to speak, it must be interpreted based on the context of the political, and the situation with its dynamics. yes, we understand all this, nevertheless, nevertheless, there is one indisputable fact, and this fact is called the signature of ukraine by the president of ukraine under the minsk agreements, which were never implemented and now will not be. probably let's go now let's listen to an american one general, very uh, a serious general, actually, he is the chairman of the us joint staff committee, that is, not such a serious general as there is in the united states in general, that's what mark milli um says about ukraine about its prospects, listen. drive the russians physically out of ukraine a very difficult task this will not happen in the next couple of weeks unless the russian army collapses completely, which is unlikely, so the probability of a ukrainian military victory is defined as the installation of the russians from all over ukraine including crimea is militarily
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low, as a rule, tactical operations are slowed down due to weather conditions, so if this happens, there may be a window for a political settlement. or at least start negotiations. here again this word again this word negotiations. and it's actually pretty good. as i understand it, uh, unpleasant, like such a cool shower, because zelensky remember all his rhetoric and everyone in reality. and mark miles is the most serious american general. he says, i would also note that li, has never been a supporter of the settlement of the issue with russia, because he tends to make very sharp and tough statements in terms of our country and collect the historical past over the past year. see height, but nonetheless. here is a statement to knock russians out of ukraine. if it’s difficult, but i would pump it up, i’ll say it, but it’s no less difficult to knock americans out of thaes, the state of a lone star. how to knock the russians out of ukraine at first is our earthing part, but talk about something else, that this change of speech and a is like that. i am i would say, how unexpectedly, a calm tone, in my
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opinion, is dictated as a change in the political situation, because in this case, mark miles is still a bit of a politician, because we see that how much a republican will be ready to support the democrats, the allocation of the next package , so to speak, for the support of ukraine, there are more questions and a plus to this. uh, one more question is raised, of course, here, by nature, together with us, you actually started with a missile crisis. i think the us military has given serious thought to what it can be, if we provide, let's say a missile projects, the so-called missile, which is capable of approximately 500 km from the chamber, other types of weapons. and here we really discussed this during the intermission, so to speak, during the advertisement, a pause. of colleagues yes, indeed, the same psm does not carry an astrotrophic, that is, a nuclear war charge, but if the missiles hit, i don’t know in moscow, of course, with good or in the near districts of moscow whom we will exchange for americans who represent such a weapon or who or ukrainians who are on the button what?

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