naturally, that is, in this sense, it is generally very important. in a combat military situation. well, when things that seem to you before this can't be. you begin to perceive them as a naturally normal work situation. yes, you need to be ready for everything and you need to be ready for everything with a margin and better. let it not be needed, but there will be something such a need arises, and we will start with hindsight for something, and prepare for this. this is very correct, and for me it is also an indicator of how our consciousness and our approaches, even including, uh, informational. yes, we are talking about it and no one calls. this is already some kind of offspring, as it called out until recently, but because in fairness this is the very sect that would seem to be narrower. well, nothing can really surprise us. she has to give her credit every day. for those who have not been interested in 8 years. we had many of these. well, i'm

not interested in politics. i don't watch tv what's going on. well, i say, i don't need about ukraine. i don't want to. ukraine and for many people which began, of course, at the end of february. it was like that. yes you? yes, why is it the same, as if the belly of justice should be worked out. um, ukraine and its special services are working out an information policy, and an agenda for our citizens who have not watched tv for 8 years and did not understand what is meant by this very ukrainian state. well, for such it continues its educational, if you like , political educational work, and conducting searches is no longer only in the kiev-pechersk lavra, but accusation of anti-state terrorist activities on the basis of attention, which is based on the fact that believing orthodox people sang the song of the virgin in russian in which the words wake up, mother, russia sounded. that is, when i say these words. that's about a completely

crazy totalitarian sect, well, then there you understand that on the basis of these words in the song to arrange searches. all right, everyone in the kiev-pechersk lavra , they already came to the convent with searches. and moreover, in all seriousness, the russians are looking for weapons uh, sabotage reconnaissance groups - i'm not making this up. they are officially here in these releases of this very one. uh, sbu uh, they write. we remind many of our citizens that here are the guys, well, it’s like everything is serious with these our neighbors, who present themselves all the time as such cute, defenseless living people. their roof has seriously leaked, this is a serious, very, as it were, dangerous story , and uh, both in the political in such an ideological sense, they confirm this, and again, shelling the zaporozhye nuclear power plant, and they shoot at her and here in general. but this word is such, as it were, the mobilization of consciousness, some kind of

insight deliverance, and from e, from illusions, it does not even come from the point of view. e of the fact that we are well aware that these sectarians, so to speak, who are sitting in kiev, they are. well, they're crazy enough to. yes, they can shoot it. a and in general, do not be too embarrassed, but here is a very important one in the current. especially in the current situation, when we , so to speak, conclude some deals, a and he gives us some guarantees and we are under these guarantees we continue to do something in the calculation. well, this is a serious international organization. well, sort of, well, this is the usual idea that you can negotiate with these guys, and they are gentlemen. they are, so to speak. well, for me , another insight today about the un, they stop reminding them of this, was a statement. here is a comrade farkhan of the khakasites of the representatives of the un secretary general, who , of course, will burn his eye in blue, but not in blue,

he says, we say there is no way determine who carried out the attacks. well, in all seriousness. this is said by the deputy representative of the general secretary of the organization, which is considered, so to speak, well, the guarantor, of certain important e-deals and e-negotiations. e. well, which we under their guarantee there prolong and enter and so on. this is a very important story. i think a year ago. well, even those who were skeptical about it did not imagine that to such an extent, and the deceit and hypocrisy of this organization and its lack of objectivity. well, how could they reach a lot also translate these. uh, examples the only one who has not changed in all this time. it seems that he has jammed some sort of, like a song and a record. this is who it is just the leader of that very totalitarian sect. well, here he is, as he said, so he says, then because of what, as a matter of fact. all this bloody porridge is talking, here it is once

again speaking in madrid gray bachty you can see how much ukraine makes a significant contribution to protecting our community with you, you can see how important it is that we really united after 24 february, therefore now you see also that ukraine should become a full member of the european union and nato i urge you to support our applications for membership in the eu and the alliance. and now, pay attention to these words of his. they start spontaneously. it seems to me that scratching someone means scratching their turnips, someone starts something somewhere, because they understand that they already hear it. e, already here, now, a long time ago and they are already tired of looking for reasons why not to do this, and some of them to the issue of getting rid of illusions, some of them already, uh, already almost open text. like uh, who is the prime minister of portugal, in my opinion, said, well, like, well, and he even he even his own can not be translated. he, as it were, gestures

and says that, goodbye. he says, well, you know, there are expansion mechanisms. well, in general, we are not able to. here is what zelensky should say. it seems to me that it is not by chance that he has all this, as if blinded once again asked to be shown to him, so he says, yes, and signed, then the laws, canceling. they actually introduced this eu law, and according to which state banks cannot carry out enhanced financial monitoring in relation to politicians and officials, after their dismissal. that is, he says, oh well, no matter how you take it. well, that’s all, then, well, as if the pieces of iron were relieved, well, as they say, with a black sheep, even though sherlock and these are examples of how the consciousness of europeans or officials is changing, and whether ours and so on they can be multiplied, but it doesn't cancel everything of the question with which a continue me. so i

asked this question yesterday at the beginning of the program and did not stop asking it, because this answer can be sought every day. well, actually, with all this. yes, we understood a lot better than 9 months ago, but now many do not understand very well. and what actually comes from what? what are we moving towards or not moving towards? well, not at all in the sense, here are our constellations. our universe a. here. i mean, well, let's say that here are the technical processes that occur under the collective name of everything another special military operation. yes, this is a very broad question. i remember one series in my opinion mikhail lancharov, one of the first on soviet television. there, one of the heroes was an artist, an artist who quickly gave the picture to put this picture at the exhibition, and the picture depicted soldiers who were walking. in this

picture, they are just walking along the road, there are military roads, and one of the critics of the vedlevs asked you a question. where are they going? he says he they go from the right corner of the picture to the left corner of the picture. here i am i want it well, i understand when i specify a question for you, for example, in the form in which it is asked to me, for example, an officer. uh, a paratrooper on the front lines. and today he wrote to me and wrote, uh, so to speak, like a text to which he simply writes verbatim. i brought this text to my telegram channel. he writes to me sadly, asks me and says he is a fighter. why do n't you declare war? you would have already declared war, we would have won it long ago. well, if a little more specific, i get asked every day fighters from the front of those with whom i have a connection, when it is they have this question, no matter how we fight or not fight, we continue to fight, or we continue to do something else, what

kind of process are we now asking they don't tell me. they where they know they are still on the frontline they still take a long time they still fly in and they ask me. but here we are, like, like, all together, where we are now clearer, yes, well, we need to answer specifically. honestly. let me personally did this try. probably not worth it either, and literally a few days after the start of the special operation, she wrote about it and said that in fact what we call a special military operation can be considered in two ways, as a postponed civil war that did not happen after the collapse of the ussr for treason national elite is the internal content of what is happening, and the external consists in the fact that it is acquiring more and more features of the patriotic war for the survival of our state for its independence. you see for at the same time, i remember very well that in the initial at the

initial stage. uh, they threatened those who are trying to present a special military operation, we threatened those who are trying to present a special military operation as a war, and because all the time they proceeded from the best of the fact that this is a special military operation, firstly, short-term. as i understand it, and secondly, she, well, she won’t get it. uh, the nature of some large-scale war. it seems to me that this was a clear miscalculation and the war led, firstly, the military operation led to the fact that it has acquired the scale of a very serious event, with which ukraine is one of the participants in the confrontation. maybe the most obvious, but not the only one, but as much as the spearhead is a member. uh, fights on copies. yes, because everyone already understands what became, it became clear and very soon it became clear that the involvement of the entire west in this war was on the side of ukraine . in glock the nato organization and various other countries that previously considered themselves neutral.

that's where finland sweden is now e eager for nato and so on and so forth all this means that the war has indeed come to us in full. yes, i also agree. i do not always feel this understanding among many of us here, not only in moscow, but in general. away from specific events. eh, people instinctively. many. maybe out of weakness, maybe out of lack of explanation. they kind of keep hoping that nothing has changed. they live the same life. eh, for me, of course it was. unpleasant extremely unpleasant is that we, having said about some cases, do not say b. well for example, the moment of a partial military operation. we considered it our duty to demonstrate that we

are still an open country. we do n't stop anyone. if people of military age are those who can fall under mobilization. at this time, they are rushing in a stream through open borders, which already means that some of them rushed , said some, apparently, not to rush back, but in itself the fact that they were heading there. it was a disgrace for sure. and ex. we talked about this many times, but i don’t want to answer the question, what's happening? yes, i don't want to repeat it. i think that in fact, if we objectively bear all the blame for this to our share, because they were not explained to them, they were not explained at school, they were not explained in the family, they were not explained at the university, they were not explained somewhere else that the motherland must be defended, there is such even a profession, as we know military. to defend the homeland what is happening now specifically. at the moment, here is this particular moment after we, unfortunately, left kherson, though, unlike the kharkov direction, they left me

there were no organized facts, which, unfortunately, were in september, when the conversation was going on, there were glues for raisins in the kharkov direction, and so on, nevertheless, we left it. this, of course, is a trauma both for our society and for the armed forces and in general. uh, and we need to revive the faith, the ability of our armed forces to advance and win at the front, as i understand it is not a military expert that such a dynamic balance has developed. someone can no longer attack. here, different situations in the donetsk people's republic cannot yet advance in different directions. the advance of the republic is nevertheless taking place, and in the kherson direction, the dnieper is between us now, that is, it has actually become a frontier, and while this frontier direction one of the parties indicates its readiness and intention to attack. yes, that's

right. so, uh, we all know that the preparation of new mobilized units is being completed. they have already arrived somewhere, somewhere they have not yet arrived at the scene in parallel with this. if such a general export is done internationally, we see how on the eve of leaving kherson after leaving kherson intensified. uh, such trends are in favor of pushing aside a ceasefire. a truce i in any world is not now not in the foreseeable future between us and ukraine and the west. i do not believe. i do not believe in a peace treaty, that it is possible to reach an agreement, but we will say that it is possible. e ceasefire in some area or in general during a military operation. she seems to be considered. well, at least the parties are definitely pushing for this, and there are facts that indicate that some talk is underway. i can

enumerate them. i can not list all the maneuvers around the twenty during the meeting in indonesia , the fact that general milli spoke about seizing the moment that the americans ordered to leg when there are a lot of these conversations. yes, the naryshkins burns met in istanbul after that the burst flew by. uh, in kiev, and today i met or met yesterday with the leadership of ukraine, that is, there is, as it were, the impression that something is why it arises, because, of course, the eighth or ninth month is already accumulating operations and fatigue and problems and sacrifices and no one, as it were , does not want to die, in fact there is. uh, losses, and he's not only losses and not s- and we have them . they are, of course, in the west no one rejoices. i think in the west. uh, speaking of budgets, there's everything else that has to spend money. yes, they want to

defeat us. but even more, it seems to me, and even more we are their priority, is to prevent the mobilization of russia for the patriotic war. they do not want our mobilization. they want probation saying, like hitler's generals, who attempted on hitler, that the war ended in forty-second or forty-three, so that it would not come to forty-fifth year. yeah, and they naturally use every opportunity to push it through. we, uh, i'm not involved in these negotiations, of course, and i don't know, uh, i don't pretend to know any secrets. i do not rule out that we are having different discussions in different formats. but i would just like to point out that every respite is a cessation. fire will naturally be used used if it is achieved by both sides, and i see that the west has become adept at

trying to use these respite to its advantage. what happened for 7 years was observed in the form of a respite called the minsk agreements , first of all, but i, uh, wanted to give another example with yugoslavia. after all, it has been permanently in a state of crisis since the ninety-first since the ninetieth year. and from time to time, the serbs rose so that, as we say, we don’t leave ours to support our croatia, bosnia and herzegovina in portion, and so on. at that moment, when she was lonely, when russia and yeltsin chernomyrdin did not help her, in fact, at that moment milosevic, the head of yugoslavia then serbia, he made compromises in order to save something, to get a break, and so on these respite were used not so much by his glory. not so much for them. how much the west in order to dig a hole under his feet on the most in serbia itself and the matter ended, as we know, than in relation to the horse, of course, russia is not extinguished, russia nuclear power. but at the same time, we must understand

that the risks are high, the risks are high. as a continuation, so here is the truce and we must weigh them and i hope that people really weigh our ability to attack our ability to return what has been lost, if we have lost something, like, for example, kherson raisins balakley our ability to move on then that we, after leaving kherson yes, are revising our plans, that this created a certain difficulty, created a threat to crimea, amounted to a threat of strangulation, transnistria, which did not wait until our offensive nasu nikolaev is a fact. unfortunately, that's just from this image that we weigh the risks of one and the risks of the other, the risks and possibilities of continuing the offensive or not continuing the offensive. truce or not? truce

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modern. ah, arsenals. a and. as he said no, fedorovich zatulin before advertising, we are all of us and we and our opponents and direct indirect ones. and we are all now already at the end of these 9 months of confrontation. since we all suffered one or another loss of one or another, we understood one thing or another about the enemy, and now already comes, of course, a visit for nine months of such a difficult company. this is the story, when we already have something to weigh from which to weigh, and on the scales there is an idea of ​​what we have strength for, what we have no strength for. and for what there is no strength now and for now, and why is this or that development of events beneficial to us, the continuation of hostilities. not the continuation of hostilities, one or another agreement. what can they lead to and so on? and in fact, who is weighing what, what in this situation we should weigh and what our opponents or some other people are weighing

players. this is now the most important question for, uh, finding an answer to, well, actually, where this whole structure will move and or can move, because well, for example, when i say that everything is weighed here, uh, orban viktor orban. the prime minister and the president of hungary and he, too, probably weighed something when he went to a football match, and in a scarf, in a scarf on which a map of his country is drawn, but, as it were, the map of his country in such lightly. uh, well , they call it great hungary, and here it is in this great hungary and includes pieces of many other european ones. eh, current e countries. i don’t believe that by chance he put on this scarf, he doesn’t understand what is painted on it, he doesn’t understand that he will be removed and he doesn’t understand that it will be noticed. at the same time, knowing perfectly well that somewhere, where it will be noticed for sure. this is how it will be noticed

, uh, in ukraine. because ukraine is certainly, but one of the most pronounced, let 's say, frankensteins. uh, that is, more precisely, as if the creation of frankenstein a which here which was the result of some former red lines of the former. agreements and previous conventions my version is that when urban puts on this scarf, he voluntarily or involuntarily speaks to the ukrainians, who, of course , understood what he was talking about, because they, well, you understand, on the basis of the scarf, the leaders of the state call the ambassador. this suggests that they considered something in what he said, i don't know what they considered. uh, so to speak, in kiev, i considered the following, he says, well, guys, since we have, as it were, now such a story that everything that happened before is not considered, and that's it. how, well, it adds up to some new configuration. well, anyway, let's try. uh, by the way, a couple of weeks ago there was a

story when a certain right-wing hungarian deputy and a right-wing polish deputy, uh, sting each other's hands and said that we should meet again on the hungarian-polish border. well, as if in order for them to meet there, there should not be ukraine between them. and so everything is fine, that is, many are weighing different options for the development of events. why is there no body in fact? what does he say? well, like guys, why? no? that is, like, well, now it seems like everything is possible, in this sense, alexei alekseevich, in your opinion, that at the moment, the main thing is we weigh and what, in your opinion, uh, is weighed by those to whom we either oppose, or who is one way or another a part of this er constructions in some unimaginable way of hungary, we do not oppose, therefore, uh. this is hooliganism on the part of the body. uh, this is definitely hooliganism underlined a certain complex of political inferiority to which the ukrainian leadership suffers. i would this situation

would not inflate not to make a fly. what is called an elephant, but because e attacks of various deputies of officials. e romania , hungary, poland, and so on reached, what is called, and to the worst and will continue to reach, and so on. as for what's going on here, uh, on this territory, i would still compare, combined and hmm linked the two companies. we, from the fifteenth to the seventeenth year, introduced a special military operation in syria. yes, and we fought against proxies. whom the so-called broad coalition, and specifically the americans, so we won, but only at the same time did not oppose us. the western syrian campaign ended, which is how it ended with the restoration of the statehood of syria a and the zones of occupation, which actually exist and which the united states has not yet left. and apparently

leave. i'm going, the turks. the turkish side will also be doing the same, so i will extrapolate this situation to what is happening in ukraine and there is a certain basis. uh, under what uh to some extent. naturally with different modifications, taking into account local features and so on, and we will be extrapolated. and for this, that's why you asked where it all goes, most likely, and everything goes exactly to the zones of purchase that is why the ukrainian leadership. so nervous about joining the european union. nato them. it is necessary to do this not very quickly and very quickly, no matter what, but at the same time their words diverge, their intention diverges from their actions. if you are going to join the european union. why are you violating the rules of the european union is the question that did zelensky yes? that is, in fact, a person is not going to join the european union attention to the question what are you actually going to? i

have a hunch that zelensky actually already understands the situation. uh, very difficult for him personally. uh, and he offers different options. why he so actively does not want to enter into a dialogue with russia is also understandable. because all that russia can offer him now is capitulation. uh, zelensky uh, go for it, as they say, in no case can you put on you can, but here is to negotiate with the main actors , primarily from britain and the united states from the european union. he is trying, he is trying now to save at least a part of what, uh, what, what will be called ukraine in the future, i will note that the situation is aggravated for him, not for us, for him by the fact that he is preparing an occupying army more. poland is now stocked with american weapons. poland has just announced, uh, an emergency call. po- uh, poland actually, they're going in with russia until anyway, she's going to fight with

belarus she is going to occupy ukraine , this is what her army is going to do more, not her army for a long time - at the same time she is enough of her army, occupying, as i said, while poland hopes that her territory is something in any case, in any case, it will remain inviolable, because the fifth paragraph of the nato charter is here, as i understand it, it is more calculated that it will act, but at the same time poland is going to sacrifice. uh, well, apparently belarus and ukraine, so more can to donate ukraine to belarus and ukraine can, because there they have something like some kind of symbiosis, as much as it can donate, it has specific territorial claims against belarus and it will implement them. lord she will realize. what is the name of the case? here is the nix that will rise as a result of the situation around ukraine, i understand, let's ah. the situation with poland is really very interesting and about it

really. now they began to write a lot in the west . write about the polish army. and there they have a history with air defense is also interesting. we'll talk about it in the next part of the program, but now i'm still in terms of, well, uh, where are we, what's going on? where is this whole structure going? i still wanted to clarify here about the model that you described by comparing it with syria. still, you understand in syria yes, we were criticized. yes , they tried to slow us down with some kind of resolutions and non-resolutions with accusations, somewhere to put spokes in our wheels, but still, in the end , in the end, there was at least some general idea of ​​what was going on there. there is a fight against terrorist and giml banned on the territory of the russian federation and at least the external western coalition too. fought. that is, at least formally we had a common enemy. and secondly, they put a spoke in our wheels and didn't put that much pressure on

our, uh, economy. well, in general, on our ability to fight, as they turn out to be and speak in sanctions, when large-scale operations began in the fourteenth year. when we launched a special operation in syria in the fifteenth. well you you understand that those sanctions in syria, including i assume that we can just find a common language on this issue, the west i’m talking about this, that i’m afraid this is not so, because we fought there, in fact, against proxies in the united states and we did it's actually open. come on, look, we are fighting in syria, uh, conducting an operation there, uh, in which, of course, they did not help us. and where you can interfere, uh, political and indirect military text, remember the white paints. i remember everything perfectly. but you understand that white helmets. this it was very unpleasant all these false accusations of using chemical weapons. yes, well, at least no one cut us off. these are quite powerful ways of trading gas and oil, which are cut off now is technically impossible. and now it’s

technically, perhaps, the level of opposition to us has increased many times, i think that in many people they trained on cats. that's why many times, uh, that is, we remained approximately the same as those who trained, and they practiced. now we have received what both received, and the west is collective, which opposes russia, you think, there, what is called sweet? no, it's pretty sweet in there. so we also got a certain experience, which we are now using. i hope very much and that it is beneficial. that's why i'm asking. i somehow agree with this, which is why i emphasize all the time that these nine months. well, i think that, well, actually, it's not me, i think everyone is talking about it and writing that, well, the conflict is of such bitterness, at least on the territory of europe. quite obviously, the forty- fifth year. i'm not even sure it's possible there is definitely no comparison of the bitterness of the war in vietnam with this afghanistan. is it possible to compare the war in vietnam with this well, maybe somewhere plus or minus

, and yet, at the same time, 9 months. as it is quite rightly said, during these nine months we understood what we did not understand. we understood where we had illusions. we understood where we had underestimations and the enemy and where we had overestimations of ourselves and much more. the west rightly also understood where it underestimated our economy, where it overestimated, and so on and so forth, therefore, indeed, we are all now in a situation where we already, you know, when we got together for the first time like this, then dispersed, and all of them are already hard, bruised places. that is, for the first time, sometime now, i’m driving you now, then once everyone leaves. someone already has a black eye here. you look at someone's teeth, and everyone starts to appreciate it. so what's next? somewhere? in short, right? yes, that's manet in quite right, the maneuvers began. and so, when everyone asks the question, what happens? they are asking a question about it. these are maneuvers on our part. about what and maneuvers by our opponents,

explicit or hidden, about what? that is, what maneuvering limits do you see, and what maneuvering limits do you consider acceptable or may be unacceptable. that's what the most important question is. and in this case, i will be guided by the statements of the official recitation, who said that they can not allow russia to win in the context of a special military operation, what we have now, namely. no, our promotion is control of a part of the zaporozhye region of the kherson region already, according to nato, it is a victory for the russian federation, at least these positions are not acceptable to them. and that theoretical respite, which dear konstantin fedorovich actually said, and you grigoryevich there, it will certainly be used with the west. in order to pump ukraine up even more, because for them this zero-sum game, any result in which russia shows its positive positions is a loss for them. now about

us. yes, the situation is right. i am not again i undertake to affirm for the respected people who make decisions that i spoke to konstantin fedorovich, but, in my opinion, for a significant part of russian society, what we have. now, of course, this is not a victory, firstly, because part of the territory of the russian federation, which is legal from a legal point of view, is now under the control of the nazi regime. this is the first second donbas luhansk has not yet been fully liberated. we have repeatedly heard statements from our president that goals are ending the genocide, and the people of donbass this is demilitarization. genocification is my humble opinion. we are far from achieving these goals, and in the context of those problems and challenges, this is at stake. we just need to look in the context of the challenges and problems that we have encountered. yes, artyom grigorievich is here for us. this hypothetical negotiation track dash "truce" is exactly the same respite in order to run at full capacity those very imitation rails that you spoke about at the level of society at the level of the economy

at the level of the military-industrial complex, because for us what, in fact, i have to repeat, because the words are absolutely correct, because for us this is a social issue here too. uh, well, i dare say the following, but officially, as we know, uh, no one spoke about this, for example, dmitry sergeevich peskov said no one stated that the goal is, for example, the dismantling of the political regime, yes, in ukraine, at the head zelensky but, in my opinion. uh, achieving the goals of the special military operations automatically. in my opinion. this dismantling produces, but the preservation of ukrainian statehood in any form under the control of western curators, where it continues, pumping weapons of ideological hatred against everything russian for us is exactly the same social threat, therefore, if we take any analogies, this is a long story, absolutely long everyone understands perfectly well that these are the guys who are now mobilized, some of whom are already at the front in the special military operation zone,

some are still undergoing training, and training for everyone we perfectly understand that it is, well, they will. e, including within the framework of the next stage, to carry out combat missions. those problems that we encountered in the context of unmanned aerial vehicles, missiles and, in general, the formation of the vc on an evolutionary military footing. this is also not a story about the here and now. and about the next stages, which, of course, will be therefore, well, what they are talking about, uh, actually, the guys at the front. yes, actually ordinary people. they're all asking what's going to happen. and everything is very simple, we we know that these goals have not been achieved. they will be reached about it, they say, the most placed people. we haven't heard the president's statement yet. but in my opinion, this is logical, and the second point, no one has canceled the principle of territorial integrity about this, for example. comrade medvedev wrote in his telegram and so on. i'm far from the story, which i'm honest about, well, we all heard together at the very beginning about lions about i don't know there, uzhhorod and ivan

frankivsk, but now, uh, it's obvious that the west will use ukraine to the last ukrainian for the west is the battering ram that will be used to the last and any kind of diplomatic maneuvers of communication. hmm there 's regrouping and so on. all this periodically happens in order to gather strength not to lose potential and, in my opinion, in the future, to complete those tasks that we are all talking about, but do i understand you correctly, i am clarifying that for those fighters whom you mentioned and for people in front of the tv and not in front of the tv, which you also mentioned, am i right about you i understand that that's like a concentrate. meet the following yes, my friends say. i tell you nikita danyuk today, in general, the maneuvers that are taking place around the situation here is

that both sides need a breather, both sides use it to their advantage, but both sides need it inevitably, you tell them. this is happening right now. this is happening now, and again. let's see how it behaves. this is also very important rear. here is the one about what. uh, how did you start artyom grigorievich there, if you read carefully in this news about what mishustin said, he allows a certain department, according to a simplified procedure, to engage in public procurement for the purpose and a special military operation is needed. i have a question, i now understand that this is without tenders for shvenders. it's still there. this machine is bureaucratic, but at least. this burden was greatly eased. i have a question. uh, especially to the alarmists who like to blow up the story right now. the boss is gone. there we lose and in general, reparations will soon be paid. if if ah, well, actually take the position of this constant zrada conditionally, which they are trying to

disperse in our society. eh, there we are ready for this, then would such decisions be taken. i'll just remind you that in order to rebuild some departments, huge institutions with colossal financial flows, there and so on, it really takes a month. if this decision has been made now, then it will really work there, well, 100% effectively. god bless through some time. well, god forbid spring, yes, which means that by the time of the spring of 2023, there can be no question of any termination of the final special military operation in this context, well, everyone should tune in to the fact that e, and after the new year , of course, escalation is possible and more than that, i will say. even tougher new level of escalation. especially considering that we know both about the baltic states and about poland, because they are really being drawn there, about which we will still talk, yes, yes. i just wanted to say a few things here first. i would like to

say to the parties that are involved in these maneuvers, that is, we and they uh-huh do not trust each other, and the maximum degree. and, of course, there is, and each seeks to put each other in the most uncomfortable position. anyway, in the course of hostilities or in the course of various kinds of negotiations on how to temporarily stop these hostilities, yeah, so, again, they can determine in different ways. the term temporary termination we know about it exist in the history of conflicts are different. here is a temporary stop. fire reached by south korea in 1954 and is still going on the 38th parallel, so i don’t think that this is what we are talking about here, but it is obvious that the west i agree to use, as we will use for rearmament for saturation for the militarization of ukraine and and so on to replenish their own arsenals, which are depleted, but it seems to me that the main goal in this

case. uh, they will have to try to undermine the prozratniks and the russian federation from the inside, uh, act. wherein try on both sides. that is one side. she is obvious to everyone. these are those who are unacceptable in our country, in general. uh, what is called the putin regime does not accept this military operation, some of them are already outside the country. from there, it is unacceptable, but some remain here and behave differently. well, in principle, e do not hide their opinions. at the same time, while still in such a marginal field, there is a second part that they will try to use. by the way, it was. uh, really decisive when the merciful ones were overthrown yugoslavia that is, in principle, this is part of the patriotic camp, which is disappointed that the results are not achieved and act

as an opposition to the current government and says that you didn’t do it there, you didn’t do that you have corruption everything and goes over a certain line in order to make a claim, in fact, this story of the february revolution in russia in 1917 brings you to this, because, strictly speaking, who the revolution was not in october. in october was the coup revolution was in february 2017, and so on in 1917, when the generals deputies proper power. and so on, the state duma of that state duma, they achieved and carried out this abdication and renunciation of the monarch, because they came to the conclusion that this monarchy is incorrigible. she cannot be successful. we must win, they thought, but we won’t win with them, it all ended with the fact that not only

they didn’t win, the country fell apart. and here is the danger. she also exists. she needs warn. it must be stopped in any case, because people who are negotiating in any way should think about how to explain this, how, if you come to something ? for example, i am not at all sure, since this matter is very reversible in conditions of total distrust of each other and it is absolutely not a fact that we will achieve, if we set such a goal at all. i can't do this either. yeah. what they are pushing for it. i see it, just the boys have a number of facts. uh-huh they're pushing for it we. e, of course, e cannot think about his international appearance about the desire to maintain relations with other countries with china and does not speak. no, we will fight, no matter what. we will never enter into negotiations. yes, we are ready for negotiations, but in fact, negotiations in the current situation, when we have not achieved the goals of the

military operation, they can hardly lead us to the desired result, only some temporary solutions, nothing more, but how these temporary solutions, on what will they say. this is a very important question in fact, and in fact now we are fixing two very important points in this conversation. and the first is that even if we proceed from the fact, and some proceed from the fact, and they have reasons for this, that both sides, for their own reasons, now, perhaps, need some kind of pause or a truce even a statement of this, if someone agrees with it does not mean that it is possible to come to it, that, as it were, the need of both parties for this still does not guarantee that it can be reached, that is, it is not yet a foregone conclusion. that is, as if the mood to search for this does not guarantee that it will be found, especially since it is not yet a fact that everyone is set. this is the first. and in order for it to be like this. well, more or less ten. eh, an attempt to answer the question of what is actually

happening now, now there is a realization that, in principle, both sides need some kind of respite. the realization that it is not a fact that it will happen, because everyone does not trust each other, is not completely. it's clear who? how it is used and the second very important statement. and this is what i often talk about the fighters with whom i communicate, but who ask me they always hmm the guys are visible intuitive they feel it, they always ask what is at home, what is there in the rear, how is the mood and it seems to me that this such an intuitive story. and this is the second concentration, because we very often say that in the ninety-first year we did not have the experience of those who lived then, the experience of the ninety-first year, and those who live now have the experience of the ninety-first year, when we decided how to reboot in motion and rebooted to the point that everything that was

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western flank, a special military operation, which are not formally included in this bridgehead. but in general, somewhere over it hangs an interesting story here, that, but they say about poland, we must understand. and it actually already sounded that, well, one can hardly imagine that someone in their right mind in today's poland, but somewhere imagines some kind of direct conflict with russia , a conflict with russia, a war with russia, right now. well, in fact, this is confirmed even by the same prank, which literally happened. and one of these days when vovan's lexus and on the prankster caught dudu of that very vigorous and seemingly so transcendent dudu, and duda who thinks that he is talking to a macron. well, in general, he says, much more restrained, i would say sane things, please. for what position? whether he blames russia, yes, vladimir

blames the russians. he says they are absolutely sure that it was a russian missile launched by the russians and he said that by launching a ukrainian missile it can't be his position he keeps asking for supplies. both the parties will blame each other.

in fact, while listening to the revelation of duda emmanuel, i thought that if you suddenly decided, uh, decide someone to shoot the continuation of the film emmanuelle a. that's what it should be called emmanuel. this is war. and by the way, as it were, yes, copyright has its own copyright. if anyone is going to shoot, please guys. do not forget, yes, a was born on the air of the program time will tell. now, seriously, so , he repeated emmanuel many times, inuel. i am very careful. i am very careful. i am very careful. i don't want a war with the russians. i do not want to involve nato here, and so on and so forth, while we understand that poland, not

wanting a war with the russians, has created a fairly strong, strong, combat-ready army. i think the units that are now already passing under the guise of various pmcs and are gaining combat experience in the hostilities in ukraine for me personally, so to speak, well, it’s not even a question. and here comes the question. why, by the way, arises not only with me, because many write about it. uh, western buildings. well, for example, the same policy, please. after a rocket fell on polish territory from brussels to berlin, they began to fear that poland would do something reckless against russia, which the polish authorities have deep antipathy for, instead poland brought the armed forces on alert and began to expect developments. this calmness was damaged by the simple reality that poland has probably the best army in europe and it will

only get stronger poland already has more tanks and howitzers than germany and it is going to increase its army by 2035. here's for something. well, that is, as if for some reason they have already hung this gun on the wall and the gunpowder is there and it is cleaned with them, and so on and so forth. now we assume and believe duda that they don’t want to fight with russia, which means it’s a war for him, and the army is not being strengthened. moreover, they strengthen it so much that, for example, when they were recently offered a joint e, air defense system, but they didn’t refuse, they said that we don’t need it, and so everything is fine. and they, judging by everything, really, everything is not bad, they already have it, there are british and norwegian ones, and so on and so forth. well, now the conversation is developing what you said about, and in your opinion, what can they do in the near foreseeable future, taking into account the development of events here, to use their good army, which is now gaining combat experience.

what goals can they have, what these goals of theirs mean for us, how much they can look towards belarus or not, where they look, what can they start doing, please. remember, americans from the very beginning just a few months ago. they said that they would not be included for poland, in which case such a situation had already developed several times during this development of events, they are included in a special military operation. therefore, let’s suppose that duda did not understand what he was saying, or rather, did not understand, yes, that he was not speaking with a macron and quite sincerely. uh, told him that he did not need a war with russia, he did not need a war with russia . he needs, as i said, the lands of belarus, the lands of ukraine, what will be left as a result of this armed conflict. but there is one more nuance that we have now forgotten, we did not mention this, kemerovo, leningrad region, kaliningrad region. this is the subject of close attention from the polish authorities for quite a long time. they

try to take part in her political life. they try in every possible way, uh, to form. eh, very such benevolent moods of the population. e. in the leningrad region, i'll tell you today. i do n't even swap places. this is a very unsuccessful project. on in fact, of course, the russian side is very suspicious and is following these very carefully. e things they e, poles. let me remind you that they were very sensitive to the fact that iskanders would be located on the territory of kaliningrad even when it was still a project. they did everything to prevent this from happening, but nevertheless, and unfortunately, poland is uh playing a card that has nothing to do with europe that has nothing to do with the us maybe that's why the us said that we see what are you going there make us it does not concern at this stage. i think it suits you more, you know why, but there will be no need to share with nato, if anything, in case everything works out, as it will, as

planned, what is called by the polish leadership to share with nato will not be conceived by your decision. well, i already said, yes, lands in ukraine, lands in belarus, belarus - this is the kaliningrad region. and why the kaliningrad region, and here i immediately come to mind. e, that in general, at first glance, a stupid idea with so called reparations, which poland presented to germany all of a sudden, for no apparent reason. of course, we interpreted it. it's like an attempt to put pressure on germany so that it pays what it owes more within the framework of the european union. well, in my opinion, the enormity of the figure that was not presented, it just to some extent correlates with what it can cost, sorry for my cynicism, the kaliningrad region, because germany, in turn, perceives the kaliningrad region as its königsberg. and in principle, she is in some the new world is perceived, in which there is no russia, i am hinting at a big deal for a big redistribution. uh, hmm borders in europe remember, yes, which can

here bodies in a scarf. he is even at the box office, what is called in all these eastern european layouts. so it seems to me that more than in the thirty-fifth year he is counting on creating the most powerful army in europe, but much earlier. i think about two years later, well, in any case, they have 125 there, then the twenty-seventh year flickers among different analysts and so on, but that no less. i think that they are planning for 25-27 either as a result of a local conflict or as part of a global conflict. uh, redistribute again , everything that is here, uh, was formed after the forty- fifth year, and the main pie to say, and to me you are without the americans a pie that will be divided this is what we now see, under our feet on the map, yes, well, about this pie , they wrote more than once, they said more than once, and now, once again, another polish uh newspaper, and she wrote about it, which means uh, but modern diplomaba

very interesting modern diplomacy is called this newspaper yes, political money, and russia will take away, the southeastern russian-speaking region. few people care about the fate of the rest of the regions. russia will turn a blind eye to further manipulation of the rest of the territory of ukraine and poland is leading its troops to western ukraine. well, actually, as you said, under any pretext or simply by bribing the population, warsaw will hold a referendum on joining the western regions of ukraine to poland. but notice even in polish e newspaper. well, it seems to me, not so, not the main, leading newspaper. they still talk only about the territory of western ukraine, not about the kaliningrad region. and for them, which is not western belarus , they do not mention, and in fact, all this is a war. foundations with russia. not mentioned in this. now, anyway, but believe me, when some local conflict starts, this issue will immediately become very relevant. aha well, as a matter of fact,

look. it was not by chance that i brought uh, orbans in the previous part of the conversation. here alexey alekseevich said that in general, the poles are already acting. as would be in a certain paradigm, and in which the results of the second world war headquarters ibrahimovic when he will share our money? so parasites, yes, as if everything is a panel and in general, let's be honest, that we also said in a sense that like guys, well, like, if you want, well, as it were, in a tough way, then let 's -hard, but hard this means that all the previous agreements. well, in a sense, not quite already preserved. what are the prospects in your opinion that events can develop like this. here's what i would like to say, first of all, the fact that ukraine is being divided is confirmed by the fact that there are four. the regions of ukraine, albeit not in full force , they became subjects of the russian federation well, if you

do not mention the crimea, sevastopol, which did this even earlier, that is, the process of dividing ukraine and the collapse of ukraine began and not on february 24, but in 2014, according to the policy in neighboring countries, who have something to think about, they build their strategy. it seems to me how hungary differs from poland hungary does not claim it claims to influence globally in ukraine only to return transcarpathia. where the ethnic minority of hungarians lives, how it differs from it. poland yes, in poland there are newspapers that remind of eastern crosses, that is, of lvov and polish cities, as they think, and so on and so forth, but in general. the political elite of poland is the one that rules today. today she believes that she can lay claim to ukraine as a whole. they don't need to get western ukraine, only

they need to influence all of ukraine and get well, the ukraine that today is called zelensky's ukraine is understandable. not donbass, they want all kharkiv, why should they? well, that's real no, well, i'm talking about the fact that they want ukraine to be in this case under them as a whole, because if they put forward their territorial claims to a part of ukraine, ukraine is natural. well, there are those in ukraine who will resist this. yes, i want them to resist, they want everything to go to the same as before. poland was the guide of this ukraine carried out there supervisor. uh-huh. that's what they want. yes, there is a backup plan and the outcasts have a plan for the soloists, who say no, please give us back lvov but this is not yet the mainstream, as it seems to me, in polish politics. of course, i do not believe that poland is going to negotiate with

germany at the expense of the kaliningrad region. well , firstly, if such a nuisance suddenly happens in the kaliningrad region, then germany germany it seems to me that they will not share with poland, for the sake of this and in any case, maybe maybe she didn't admit it. she's not going to admit any of this. it would be a german defeat akin to the defeat that russia would suffer if it loses the kaliningrad region, i don't think poland is really seriously considering invading belarus yes poland i'm sure will make every possible effort to destabilize belarus from within use it will be a trade-union state in this sense on its condition. in this case, they will commit, such step, then it will be about the same in terms of . i will forgive it as maybe someone here thought that if we start a military operation, then they won’t stand up for ukraine, the west, if they start supporting belarus and russia stands up for belarus, they don’t understand this well. it seems to me that they

will not do this stream. they will try to destabilize both belarus and russia if they get less opportunities with russia, because there is no polish minority here. there are no traditions of the presence of russia as part of poland in belarus simpler historically, but also a very serious problem, so it seems to me that as far as poland is concerned, in the conversation that was e , firstly, there is no reason to believe that duda will definitely be sincere with the macron. i will roughly imagine. what position the macron takes, what the macron is unlikely to demand from him immediately. start a war with russia means, oh and he, i don't think he really wants to start a war with russia alone. hmm, he doesn't want to be alone. but if everyone is in favor of this, why not. understandable a in this sense, a and the west is also discussing this, and in this case,

it is being discussed in ukraine. strictly speaking, our grouping, which is now in the territory. e belarus, this may be somehow connected with the plans of poland and e. and in general, how do you consider, so to speak, from a political point of view, this is the political meaning of having this group there, given that it was said that it would, uh, become more powerful and build up. yes, i think it is related. by the way, i think we should look at the nato decision in madrid yes this is an increase in the contingent to 250,000 in the baltics on the territory of poland let's imagine this number of nato groups. we are not talking about specific units of the poles or the baltic states, if they really are. in the fifth year they are going, or there a little later in the twenty-seventh year, to increase this grouping to such impressive numbers, then the actual presence, including the russian military and the infrastructure for expanding

the military structure in belarus, is a more than adequate challenge, which is ahead of uh, nato action, but i consider myself a romantic. maybe, i don't know, i'm deeply convinced that this is a strategic response, but this grouping can be used for tactical purposes as well. well , which artyom grigorievich are you looking at now, as i have already said, and in this case, i can criticize as much as i like. for example, i hide behind authority. e deputy chairman of the security council of the russian federation is nothing to medvedev who in such a very figurative manner, but nonetheless. in general, i recently recalled that kyiv at the time. yes, it was the capital of kievan rus until ancient rus, then part of the russian empire, then the city of union significance and c. in general, questions about kiev too. leave you know, i do not want to look like a person who, in the current conditions, is after history. from kharkiv to kherson now with an energogadar and actually from the zaporozhye

power plant. in my opinion, the suspended situation tells nimble speeches that kiev will be taken there, no, i’m talking about the fact that tactically yes, this is a grouping, everyone can be used after the start of a special military operation, the territory of belarus was used for our columns to pass through it, among other things. well , again, how successful, i'm not a military specialist, but in general from a military point of view. i've talked to many advantage, yes always advantage. it was at home that the military said that in general, well, from a military point of view, as it were. from here, don't go. right here it is as if the sword gives there is. well, as for the previous story about poland, again, if we take history as development processors and special military operation stage. a painful confrontation in the context of the process of the half-life of ukraine, what konstantin fedorovich spoke about but the plan that i saw again in the context of certain polish plans, which you are even

interested in, because this plan does not mean at all that it is final, that it is the last in in the end, we were persuaded here about poland. how many sections were there? well, i'm just remembering the story, yes, and in this regard, i am deeply convinced, that ukrainian statehood in this case for the west, under negative scenarios, will be just the pieces that they will try to conquer, either by openly bringing in troops, or by making some kind of protectorate dash puppet government, which, by the way, of course, kiev is now, but to me it seems that the territory will become much smaller by then. in what you said, there are two interesting ones for me, not even a question, but try to clarify briefly. do i understand you correctly when you were strategically talking about our grouping, here and their preparations. there, what can be said that we are creating this grouping together with belarus strategically, but prophylactically preparing for a possible potential military conflict, absolutely look at any military archer, he will say that any maneuvers are the transfer of infrastructure and so on. it

is conditional, there are exercises with maneuvers only because there is no order to attack understood, and if this infrastructure is created, then it can be used potential is, what do you mean speaking of the suspended situation with energodar well, we now know, again, i refer to unverified sources, but nevertheless, they say that the armed forces of ukraine want to, uh, with the help of the attack of sabotage groups , cross over and try to seize control over the territory of energy gifts in this sense. uh, well, the situation is quite tense shelling continues. and of course, i say again, we should all become realists, and god forbid, but anything can be, that's what i'm talking about. understood. well, as a matter of fact, it is not the first time they want to cross there. they have already tried. on my last trip, i just talked, including with our russian guard fighters, who repelled these attempts. and i think that the guys are on the alert.

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in sportmaster, discounts in the app up to 70% on clothes of famous brands in your pocket, if you have the sportmaster app and i will complete today's program, this conversation of ours is about that state in something transitional from somewhere e somewhere in the historical and in the geopolitical sense, i want to complete. the same as i started. so i started with the words about what is happening over these 9 months. maybe not so quickly and not in everything the mobilization of consciousness , the mobilization of self-awareness, the mobilization of social and economic, and so on, but in fact a very important story. so we talked about the hungarian leader about the polish leader. in fact, it is very important to understand and feel and also apply to yourself this new feeling that the world is changing, and it will change smoothly, and evenly

so much for you. who do you think you are in this world. and if you have time to reorganize in your head on who you are in this world and what this world around you is, then you will take the appropriate place in it. and if you get stuck in ideas about how it used to be and who you were, and for someone and who they were for you and continue to proceed, as if from the fact that nothing has changed, you can take a very very unfortunate place in it, but i hope that with this mobilization of self-awareness. we'll be fine too, right? innovation channel on the first continues to work live. this program. time will tell with you anatoly kuzichev let's start with history. as wild as it sounds, as paradoxical as it sounds

predictable and completely understandable so the security service of ukraine is looking for spies in the kiev-pechersk lavra they will find no doubt. searches are now being carried out there, searches are being carried out in the monasteries on the territory of the sarnytsya polissya diocese of the poc in the rivne region. it means a lot where the purpose is what is the purpose of these searches to find weapons that the monks allegedly hide on the territory of the monastery and further, they are suspected of having organized a cell of the russian world in the orthodox shrine of kiev well, about the kiev-pechersk lavra. these are, of course, orthodox shrines. one of the truly important orthodox shrines is the truth about the cell of the russian world. in general, it's also true. in general, too, though it is another matter that this is a cell of the russian world. she is not aggressive in a christianly calm way. convincing and with a huge historical basis, but be that as it may, and even they call it, as the citizens said, it is uh, through counterintelligence. uh, counterintelligence special operation on the territory of the

kiev-pechersk lavra. this means that these eagles have already found propaganda materials, according to the sbu, this means that this is a serious accusation and serious materials, namely, that they consider it forbidden by propaganda that they found and seized icons depicting the russian emperor nicholas ii and his wife. the newspaper russkiy vestnik published on the occasion of the 150th anniversary of the russian writer ivan bunin is the bulletin russian writer russian bunin well, horror, of course, the magazine russian house russian house is now the fourteenth year and the book of the patriarch of moscow all russia kirill, which is called freedom and responsibility is everything, this is incriminated, accordingly, all this is confiscated by the monk, because propaganda materials, but the most delicious, of course. i left it to you, so to speak, at the end of this, this is, so to speak, the plot, and the reason for the searches was the performance by the parishioners of kiev of the pechersk lavra of the song praise of the most holy

theotokos because there are terrible words about awakening of russia let's listen to this monstrous song from the point of view together. over russia , it is also difficult to disagree with this. well, yes, mother russia is awakening. well, repeat it. i have a very bad feeling. and that, of course, did not end there, that the russian orthodox church, or rather, the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, is an enemy. remember, this is poroshenko's famous formula, ah. army vera and mova army. mova, vera, yes, well, so to speak, in this direction, so to speak, as announced,

that's how bad news works. and in general, everything is bad. say, a, and that's the most optimistic scenario. so, firstly, it does not recognize you as the church of the moscow patriarchate, because it calls itself the ukrainian orthodox church in the charter it is written in such letters the ukrainian orthodox church is the church of the ukrainian people, point and the process of withdrawal has still begun in nature, which received uh, spravochku, this is not the church of ukraine, which belongs to the constantinum of the ukrainian people, the point is also the point and it's just so interesting there. yep, while one must understand that this departure began even under the previous primate. oddly enough, it continued, although many called it pro-russian precisely under the metropolitanateanophry. now we have decided to act as under patriarch tikhon and allow the priests on the bridges to

decide in places to commemorate. they either do not commemorate patriarch kirill for his service. this is such a very important call for the orthodox world and a bad call for you , moreover, it’s wait, wait, wait, wait. you understand what's the matter, schismatic atheists, those who have departed from their faith from their church, they will always be punished. well, it has never happened otherwise in history. so for whom this is a bad bell. tell me, please, i'm schismatics. i am not godless. yeah, according to the tradition that was under two patriarchs ago, then the metropolitan himself. the fries and the head of the ukrainian orthodox church are absolutely canonical, accused the russians of stone sins and twice recorded this video message, in theory. this was supposed to turn the ukrainian patriots into side of the ukrainian orthodox church, but no, because unless you explain in a standard

ukrainian patriot and activist, what is cain's sin and what kind? in general, such an incredible thing to go deep for the patriots for the patriots, they are still strangers. the sbu will still try to remove, uh, the canonical ukrainian orthodox church, of course, to bring a dog there from the lavra. uh, in general, thank god that they did not plant weapons and did not find him. but this is still the same scheme that was with the pochaev lavra, when it was accused of the svetogorsk lavra when it they blamed it because militants were hiding there, that is, all this happened. it’s just that for a while i understood everything. the lavra guarded the self-defense of the maidan and then didn’t give it. i hate this activist symptom, in general this word is in this laurel. and now there is no one to protect her in fact. now i’m here in shock from the hut , i would have looked at these, i’m guarding these, then i didn’t have such a tough task, because it’s

clear that the world would, of course, pay attention to this. now, of course, no, so everything is bad. this is true, and even on an indirect basis, not even we will deepen. there are theological disputes, who is canonical, who is not canonical, but i, in my opinion, i gave my answer and so on, but even look at the lopsided sign, so to speak. yes, when the armed people of the special service, starting, so rummaging through this laurel, trying to find something, present something, and so on. please tell me this seems to work so to speak. well, i don’t know in fairness, how, uh, inina says. but what, here they are. look. they live with us, so to speak, they are also canonical, and so on, and so to speak, and onufry look how many words he said, but it's just a massacre. this is the fact that the relations we have in ukraine, according to the law, lavra belongs to the state and is located in the arena and change the tenant of the state on an indirect basis, so you can understand that this, of course, is chaos, what is it? of course, that this is fear and actually an act of intimidation, i, please, here. well,

i have no doubt that this is, in principle, we would like to say, the usual nightmare of business. do you know how business is? nightmare yes, they heard a russian song, they must remind who in the lavra there is someone so that there are no illusions. i do not think that they will now go into very tough conflicts to completely clean up the laurel there to arrange. why better time won't be better time. you won't. okay, well, we'll see. i'm just in this case in my opinion, but uh, of course, for them, there are any such manifestations. this is a direct threat. there is a direct threat that somewhere this most hated russian world is preserved, in general, even if it does not play any role in the church, it is necessary to work on a hut. i'm just waiting for them to come. searching the factory. because, as we remember, in hryvnia, especially at the very beginning at the bottom, so to speak in the figure, where is the first printer. eh, ivan fedorov in lvov, he has books right on the table, that is, lies in the russkaya pravda newspaper, you understand, this, that is, this, apparently, something

is completely missed, you understand, understand? let's understand, please, a few words about the political component of the issue, because we often have such a stereotypical perception that sports and religions should be out of politics in fact and sport and religion are at the forefront of big politics, and always and everywhere this has happened sadly. but this is unfortunately. and yes, it can be stated and i do not think that there is any really. here is such a one, but the theological, uh, some kind of company that makes up after all. it seems to me that this is pure politics, that is, everything that is connected with russia in one way or another. uh, formats should be destroyed. it's clear from here. by the way, actually. it is all the vision of one chain. they just happened, but in stages in different time renaming streets as well. but from the monuments here again, pushkin was especially zealously taken up, and in odessa they took up the monument to catherine ii, the founder. and actually the city of odessa, and so on and so forth, so e religion. actually , as something that once united very strongly, uh,

everything, space, and today, which is called a post-soviet phenomenon. naturally, it is of particular interest, and therefore it will be approached by no means from a position. there love goodness all forgiveness, mercy justice to this will be approach a clear, and such a political position and actually. this is what we are now seeing, that this is barbarism - this is a different question, but this always happens when politicians interfere with religious ones, this is not just barbarism, it is, how to say, state building, this is construction. ah, the concept of state building is very simple, it means to withdraw slander. i don't know how to explain everything, well, all the real historical grounds there. all all memories are shared stories. you're talking about a common path there about a common people and so on just take and remove delete delete delete all references from all sources, therefore monuments, therefore, the street, therefore, the church is such a kind of state building for them, that i am hryvnia, what should hryvnia do with them? yes, what is there

, lord, to do, please, well, i want to add that, of course, in the history of this ongoing ukrainian lawlessness, of course. but what happened, how his pechersk lavra still stands apart for a number of reasons, you understand, we can of course say that kiev-pechersk lavra, so to speak, a shrine, orthodoxy, yes. but you can look at it differently, that it's just a certain territory. yes, uh, enclosed space, enclosed space mood. yes, and which could potentially be a nest of some kind of terrorists, some kind of, so to speak, there, uh, anti-state elements and so on. and what conclusion is drawn from this? what is the conclusion here? by means of this action, the power, the power sends a signal that it is standing on the flowers. she is, as it were, but she takes this holiness. yes, like this in a gangster way like this and she makes it clear that now

she is a saint and for her there are no red lines that are not taboo. e some zones. yes, any actions are justified by the fact that, and they are aimed at fighting enemies, this is a new sacredness. as far as where what was considered sacred is sacralized. eh, here's a self-proclaimed one. yes, you understand, from here, fighting and killing, and only new ones, only in this way. it can be done, you know? this is the first second moment of course, in general, the situation is tragicomzm despite the fact that it is tragic, but at the same time, we have heard so much, uh, about the fight against, uh, communism. yes, nomination. and it doesn't remind me. here are some so to speak, there are times. yes, of course, you understand everything with your eyes, absolutely clear, unambiguous and completely correct. yes, you know, i was watching just now, i thought about it, i remembered the persecution of the first

christians. you see, when they kept catacombs fire. do you remember, here are the pagans, yes, here is ukraine unfortunately, it returns, maybe not realizing. this is in these pre-christian times, because this is in essence. e such here, and the anti-christian approach. yes, if you think about it, you know all the christian words and all the pizzas that were used here, they are completely correct, but it seems to me that the key word here, of course, is not barbarism and no other word for it is construction, all the more, and even not destabilization. although this is not a very accurate definition, the main word is, of course, betrayal betrayal. eh, this is the widest deepest, if you want the biblical sense of the word. yes, yes, it is in the biblical, because. well, i'm not even talking about history. we talked about it more. about the betrayal of a common history, about the betrayal of a common victory, look, remember the same poroshenko, remember how he walked, how he walked, so to speak, with these very old women, everything is normal moscow only the orthodox church. everything is fine, and then he said so, and then yes,

and then he came up with a certificate thomas and that's it. and what is it? what is the name of? this act. this is true called not new sterilization is not state-built. this is the name of betrayal and actually the main thing. i don’t know, the main religion is the main word in today’s ukraine. please excuse me, this betrayal is traitors, you understand, traitors in the most biblical sense of the word. daria vasilyevna absolutely agrees with you, but i still think that this is a clear message to all the other e-churches that are currently under control of ukraine because everyone understands that the church is still trying stay out of politics and, accordingly, when the wounded soldiers of the russian army will come there. they just can't refuse. then i am sure and they will hide and, accordingly, so that there are no such cases, that is, my opinion is that this is a clear message to everyone else that this should not be done. note. we passed vasily often

talked via video link, and then this is the commissioner for human rights in the donetsk people's republic thank you for coming to our studio, we found the opportunity. we found time. that's what concerns, so to speak, new. you are, so to speak, a ukrainian religion or a new sacredness, as sergei defined it, yes hatred of the russian and with all the consequences, yes. but this idea has its own, so to speak, quite material embodiment. it's not just about talking. here we hate russians. yes, they jumped into the pots on their heads, which means they pulled their leather panties on top of the trousers, and went on. no. that is, the material terrible absolutely monstrous incarnation. so i know that you were engaged, including with history history. rather, belated casualties among civilians in mariupol and krasny liman and so on. just tell me that you saw how many people suffered, suffered from high actions, which in fact, which actually implemented this very materialized this very idea of ​​hatred for the russians. here

it is the material embodiment, if i understand correctly. well, in fact, it's all been built throughout. the minsk agreements will give all of ours with you. it's all very well thought out. qualitatively. lemon scheme and, accordingly, when our own had already begun, when our cities began to be liberated. we, of course, our apparatus. i personally traveled to all the liberated places and the picture that we saw was already fat, because really what you were talking about, we are talking to the whole world, it is constantly, and the military of ukraine was covered up like a human shield by our civilians . that is, evacuations were not announced, respectively, this entailed a very large number of dead corpses, and since people they were afraid, that is, these corpses were really located almost all over the territory in different cities, but most of all, of course, i care. that's exactly the situation in krasny liman after all, we are after

the liberation of the red estuary. we organized all search activities for the burial of such persons, about 250 citizens were buried there, that is, they were collected from the surface of them, by the way, about 50 of them are in the service of ukraine. we also buried them. and here's the one, i would say negative. in general, you're promoting incorrectly. now i’m trying very hard to speak correctly, which happened after taking a red red lemon, a very giant and ukraine, and now i, as a person who has been working in this system for a long time, here are burial places. so we did a dna test . in principle, we understand who is buried where, and after all these graves were re-raised anew, they were reburied. we understand that a large number of citizens simply more may never find their loved ones and why this was done. why was it made not by christian continuation, previous topics, but nevertheless no one was afraid and unfortunately. we have what we have. and why was this

done, not in a christian way, and so on, although it was in my opinion, by the way, there are still enough direct connections. and i think that if there were a justification for the reason, here are the reburials, that they should carry out this work, perhaps they even provided you with these accumulated data that we have, but again, this is only in the interests of those citizens who are looking for their own loved ones, but nevertheless interaction on such here excuse yes it not such heavy subject unpleasant. of course, what are they for? uh, digging, then? sorry corpses. well, you understand, not for that, you may not have knowledge for you in order to pass it on to your relatives. it is clear, as daria put it very delicately or even too delicately, but they have such, so to speak, their own pr. what is your pr? well, this is bucha , i don’t know, krymatorsk, red fish, mariupol drama theater, that’s all. it's this and it's like this called pr you understand what is the matter and it is clear that the world does not care in the deepest way, that you will comment on the worst thing now. to spit on

this means, like, uh, we express ourselves on this pr but she does not notice anything. eh, or rather, she, and he is the world , that's nothing civilized, at least it's not civilized, he notices from civilized michael , just like that, it means, uh. with eyes closed, the state duma, meanwhile, in continuation of this topic, yes, called on the parliaments of the countries of the world to condemn the all-union forces for the execution of unarmed russian prisoners of war. we discussed this yesterday and talked about it in detail. this means that it is necessary to help bring to justice all the perpetrators of the brutal murder. this is a good definition , absolutely fair and unanimously adopted by the deputies. the application is sent to various international institutions, including the pas and the osce. well, vlad, i don't know, well, i see your yes, your smile, bitter, so to speak. i have the same one somewhere inside me wandering, but nevertheless, but nevertheless. well, here, unfortunately. uh, over the past 500 years in the west has changed, absolutely

. nothing i will remind the classic. eh, like the whole classic wording of the west in relation to the inhabitants of south america from the indians. no soul, you understand, yes, yes, there was such a whole theological theological dispute, which had to be clarified at all. such are all these tenacious people out there in the open lands. um, are they really people , because if they are, then you need to somehow attract them and try to preach among them there, and they have rights. and a exactly needed. how would the right to this land. this is a little. now, if we immediately accept that the indian does not have a soul, then everything can be humanized once or dehumanized for centuries, too, you understand? let me remind you that, starting, probably, also as early as the fifteenth, the most cruel racial laws were applied to the slavs, that is, not only there in relation to the jews and others, you need to look. how many slave markets there were for the slavs, it's just that ukraine is saturated with necrophilia, you understand? she is such necromancy even because

that i’m still waiting for them to start dividing the bones, because he doesn’t have, again, in the same monastery or ilya muromets. what the hell is he lying there? he is russian, you know, stolypin is lying there. what the hell is he lying there, but exactly so exactly lies, russian surgeon pirogov. and he is also called in a glass coffin, you understand? you will fight this soon, of course, of course, well, if we do not get on this path, which is what we are actually trying to do. trying to guess if your loan will be approved. a comparison will help you know for sure. check your credit flight. try the application and find out which bank will approve the loan on the best terms on compare if loan, then compare choose better perfectionists eat only grain feed never use growth hormones and harmful additives. yes , these are high standards, loop, loop, pure

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faces of the armed forces. donetsk people's republic, that's what olga kachura was like, what she lived for and what did she fight for? uh, my colleagues ekaterina strizhenova told the daughter of olger about all this, we are watching an interview. people in donbass for 8 years of the war, they got used to the fact that they have an alarming suitcase where all documents are stored. some things of power banks and the like, when you put on the formula, you understand that tomorrow you may not become the hardest to understand, not that you may not become. this is something that may not become your loved one. why is it especially important, as can be seen from the documents, during the time of her command of the corresponding unit, there were no losses in it? you see, unfortunately, she herself could not be saved. i want this award to be kept by

you in your family, elena korobets, the daughter of colonel olga kachura, the legendary corso star of the hero of russia and her mother received posthumously, the only woman. artillery battalion commander. she was a symbol of the resistance of donbass, her character and courage were envied by men, and the enemies flinched if they heard the call sign of the scythe. olga kachura died under ukrainian shelling at the end of july, when she accompanied a convoy of an ambulance on the course, ukrainian nationalists hunted in 2014. this is my homeland, these are my children, they were born and died here, and they collapsed colonel kochurova, fought in the most dangerous areas. the subordination of this fragile woman was one and a half hundred fighters, and in 2016, a service came to her unit. live and own daughter in this family is not accepted to sit in the bodies. at the enemy's target, fire 300 30 3 towards the

president yelena karabek came with a dpr medal for the defense of gorlovka, the girl received it several years ago and is very proud of this award. elena wants to continue her mother's work. she believes peaceful life will definitely come to the native land of donbass just in the evening, more and more. oslo in the presence of their children, sit down to discuss some daily problems that are not at all related to the war, in general , drink coffee and watch tv. that's just, probably, peaceful life is not enough. money i literally half an hour from her messages for 40 minutes. in general, i was every morning. she wrote. good morning. it means he's fine. i'm not

worried, i wake up. after 5 minutes, a message arrives. good morning. everything is fine. everything is fine. i don't have any bad feeling. everything fine. calls me, my cousin sister. and in tears, it tells me that olga is dead. well, the truth is that's how it's been repeatedly. here is such, uh, fake news to the ukrainian side. everyone wanted this, but it just didn't work out. i actually do first. well, i say, now i will clarify everything, that is, i did not believe it right away. but unfortunately this time it is. it turned out that all parts were transported, and i realized that all the clocks in the house had stopped. there,

okay, if there were two or three pieces, it would be strange, all 11 hours in the house are standing. everyone here is different time. i touched this clock repeatedly, but they froze at the moment plus or minus, just the same, the moment when she died until the fourteenth year, my mother was a lieutenant colonel of the ministry of internal affairs of ukraine quite right. yes, how did it happen that she got up to defend herself, donbass at first maidan donbass did not want all this to happen donbass worked when people jumped on the maidan and shouted who was not jumping. and we did not want to fight, but when fascism came to our earth, the choice was already obvious. she saw my frightened eyes when i even remember

i think it was may 26, 2014. shooting smoke helicopters fighters i was at that time generally 15 years old in donetsk then, uh fighters flew by, and i did not understand what it was, that i had never heard of such sounds. and after that it was obvious go and defend your land for your children. and my mother became a traitor

to ukraine, she swore an oath to protect her homeland, to protect her people, and i don’t think she betrayed, but don’t consider us all traitors. they started shooting at us, they started bombing and killing us. they came to our earth destroy our houses are our monuments. in ukraine, i still have a ukrainian military registration and enlistment office card there to start performing functional duties. sorry , i can't anymore. i serve to serve. how did it happen that you began to serve with your mother? i wanted to be closer to

her, so i made this choice, but i also have a military family. mom was against it for a long time, she resisted. i just at one point. well , when i realized that it was already useless. i said that if she does not take me to her, i will go to serve another unit. but she knows i was fine, so after 2 hours it was in gorlovka for 4 years she served in the army, now a civilian. and how did she tell you about her decision, you reacted. she came here accordingly. mom, i want to work.

yes, it offended me a little. that's because , well, it was somehow insulting later, when i joined the team, for many i put them as a comrade in arms, as they say, they called me lyokha to this day they write to me. not lyokha lyokha lyokha is your call sign. well they started calling me that, and it arrived. the battalion, according to your order , was built illegally absent, no report to the commander. the first battery, the elders pull no help. i wish you good health, comrades,

i and i are twice as tall as she is, but she was feared and respected in a good way. i don’t even remember a single man who could somehow disrespectfully address her or something else ahead of time. uh, i can even say, no matter how i study, she is much kinder than me. eh, she's loving, she knows how to love. if she loves, she will give you everything she has she has one guy his mom went to the

hospital and she embodied either the cure or the treatment did something about it. even i didn't know. uh, well, then after a while. i found out, that is, she did not say a word about it, beauty. which is even more human. how did she speak? try to catch up with a lifestyle just a lifestyle. it managed everything in the world,

we have always had a tradition that every saturday mom cooks. the first second third for the whole week was not very small. and i need to feed. well, i'm a child, that was before the war. wow she is very tasty trains. and the most delicious dish is mother's what kind of borscht pilaf pies do you know mincemeat there is such a dish? yes , there from herring. yes, yes, i also prepare it for a long time.

made a happy birthday poster. she didn't notice him. only when i was asked to turn around. she saw this poster, of ​​course, i became very pleased, everyone congratulated her on her birthday, kissed her cheek on each soldier, the little one came to her grandmother and pulled. i said ba. tell me about the war. tell me how it was, that you are heroes, she sent me to read books. i am didn't say anything. it is likely after the lapse, when i have grandchildren. i do n't want to talk about the war at all. i will count fairy tales. shoot with me slingshots go to the lake to fish swim, but by no means war. this is scary. it's very terrible. this blood is death. this nightmare is just wild horror at a funeral. yes, the peaceful people who came to

say goodbye to her died. it was very mean. innocent people died. people who just wanted to give back, yes disrespect you want? of course emotions. you have no pain, no emotions, no words. i count blood for blood. i think every person who has lost the mother of the father of the children often lost keeping the child even more difficult. i think they understand me perfectly, what they feel, and what they would do in relation to people who took the life of a loved one. i never put

it like that, so i put it wrong. why do they put it like this once in a lifetime. i hope it won't be time for me soon. she never laid her hat like that, she put it on the table this time, and turn on the phone inside. and moreover, she asked to bring. a headdress from an official business uniform of an office military office uniform and a woman cook put it exactly like that, too, on the same day she was a sovereign person in the war already no

, most likely, firstly, unbelievers. here, and secondly, of course, when war comes to the house there are some. things you stop doing, for example. when you have someone in your family let's say, or even in a unit, it happens that if the guys go to work, no one is removed. can't sweep to do anything it is forbidden. therefore, the further, on the contrary, time goes by, the harder it is. and it’s just that after death and a

lot of problems fell on me, some of her things are not well done not completed, unfinished, which she did not have time to finish now i’m doing it. so i do everything so that it will not be ashamed to pass. and this test will end and we will survive. if we were given such a test, then we can go through it . i am not against ukraine, i am not against its beautiful songs. i am against such a division. when for some reason you think that we are worse than you. i am russian. i am proud when the president entrusted your mother's order to you, what happened? in the head, what was in the heart was a feeling of great pride? must stand. and

keep this star. that's what they should also sit here now, it's not me right here, but she and of course, it's a shame, a very shame. she really deserved it, if you could say something to your mother now, so that you would tell her. what am i missing? i 'll tell my mother, donetsk now russia is very sorry that

she did not see this. 8 years bravely defended our homeland. every day my mother had some favorite song. yes, she is very liked it. here is this song. this is her favorite song to storm the heavens. you turn on this music every day. was a game.

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to work live now. for your attention , the paradox is not surprising, but still the paradox, at least in formal logical terms. look here. every day he hits civilians. donbass is shelled every day, every day someone is killed, we repeat, civilians are thrown into the cities of donbass by minami with a petal, which is generally alive to be destroyed enemy forces invented are forbidden by many conventions of the city peaceful, so that you never know if anyone there is a child, most likely, or some old man was blown up. repeat this whole thing. this is such a regular practice. they are now breaking into temples, searching the priests, and finding absolutely terrible literature there, and so on. strange right russia now there can be no doubt that russian leaders act like real terrorists, showing unprecedented

barbarism, attacking civilians and civilian infrastructure we must act and they must be condemned as terrorists by international tribunals. in nato, of course, i'm sorry, she's not in nato, but listen nonetheless, but on the other hand, how many do we have there? eh, shashkov is left before the un? well, a couple so, come on , michael, you're just happiness, so to speak, not in words. he said only thoughtfully listened. for which i thank you very much. here's how you feel about it, don't you see any paradoxes in this , well, maybe paradoxes, they come from because of the position that russia projected this conflict, the year 14 begins, and therefore, the ukrainian actions of the west that support ukraine are a reciprocal peace. this is also a fundamental position. i understand that you disagree. well, no, it's not that i don't agree. eh, logic doesn't agree with you. it's just that usually such a formal logic is simple as a stick. so, if people are some kind of armed formations throwing peaceful minamist cities, what is it? the west believes that there was nothing to

start with all questions to russia. this conflict begins in a year. this is their position. i'm just talking about you, i'm trying to tell you yes, i know for the position of the west, we are experts here, do you understand? i myself asked them to retell someone's narratives, so to speak. i could do it well myself. i'd be fine reading you asked, i'm asking about your position, my position, that of course i'll try diplomatically try. and of course, russia bears a huge responsibility for this entire conflict. so let's, i'll focus on this huge responsibility. i want to explain. and hmm why does this put the us in an awkward position? i can explain this vote in nato, please. the fact is that there are, uh, such hawks as now krem and others who have been wanting for 8 years, uh, to declare russia a sponsor of terrorism, they and they have various different initiatives. all of them went to congress. yes , i understand there is one why a here, but it seems that the united states

voted for this initiative as a well then, u approve our initiative. yes, but congress and the white house do not want to for one simple reason. this is a very interesting reason. why does the us import up so far? uh, and the special operation didn’t change anything, i import, every month, russian goods worth 1 billion dollars. it's not a secret. this fertilizer is steel, this is aluminum. titanium uranus these comrades are too important. and if russia was declared a sponsor of terrorism, it should have been closed, what should i do? that is, the question is not so to say injustice, and therefore the economy war is a war, aluminum is needed on schedule. yes listen a please tell me that here i also understood at all. i'll go to an international lawyer anyway. she still seems to us even to me more, uh, they write in detail. what is this

initiative. please tell me, you say russia bears a huge responsibility. do i understand correctly that any military operation or military action is not approved. he is a reason to declare this or that country, which started this action, uh, a country of terrorists. no, because if you can explain, it's like a security protection now turkey is bombing. as you wish. why such different approaches? if the restaurant says it's us , and we say it's for safety's sake, yes yes. well, no one accepts this reason. this they consider no threat to russian security. no, this is an important methodological mistake about no one here i say, this is in the west, well done, well done, because, well, of course, well, this is how it should be pronounced, because i repeat. it's all manifestation. eh, you absolutely know the arrogance of such an arrogant white arrogant, all native trash above us. that is, roughly speaking, everyone

believes. and the whole who are - this is the west, all the rest are some there. sorry with such a saint skin. with what color of skin with such a slit of the eyes, who are they all think that this is so? repeat michael, you unwittingly made a slip of the tongue. i'm not talking about you, generally claims, not about you at all. here i repeat. it's haughty. this arrogance is absolutely swine, it is very evident in the whole format of the leg - these are 50 countries, that is, to go against. and how many of them in the world are 200 with a personal quarter? thank you please bread amazing things are happening both from the point of view of common sense and from the point of view of nato international law urged members of the alliance to recognize russia as a country for terrorists. is it surprising, no, no wonder, because tomorrow, november 23, there will be a vote in the european parliament on the same topic, given that the membership of the eu itself and the north atlantic alliance to a very large extent coincide, this is not surprising. but that is,

it must be traced. at least some logic logic. unfortunately, this paragraph ends, because the very concept of a terrorist country is an absolute novella, uh, in modern international public law. there is such a thing as a country sponsoring terrorism. this is true, moreover, it is, as in international law at the level of, say , the united nations anti-terrorism committee. and there is such a wording in american law. there is a concept of a country. uh, sponsor of terrorism and four states. they even received such an honor in quotation marks and there is a concept of such a name. state terrorism, which is applicable to individual actions, for example, and some contract killings are financing of the opposition. uh let's say supporting the opposition not only with money, but also with weapons is such a concept of the state of terrorism, but the concept of a country is a terrorist, but, that is, as a whole regime, as a whole system. uh, while we are talking about a country with a legitimate elected government with the people

, a country that is a great power, the world's largest nuclear arsenal of permanent members. without the un, to call such a country a country of a terrorist. it's just out of line at all. that is, this is an absolute navella, to be honest, i’m not even interested in it. how did it all end, and then explain to me do you think that this is a sign of manifestation, so to speak, of such idiocy, or is there something in it. this is actually. uh, the degradation of ideas, uh, which are in my opinion. in general, it can be traced very strongly, because well, almost everything that came to mind. it is in e. actually, there for the last 6-7 months, one way or another, it has already been shown to us now simply, well, what is called somewhere, this is sucking out of the finger and trying. well , to make some kind of good mine at an already very obviously bad game. thank you for that definition, after all, however, not even a laser. but i think he will agree that, in general, this is in a gathering, of course, for sure, he will say something even more delicate in the future. eh, so to speak, neatly. well , it's true, some degradants and their definitions are. well, there is degradation, but

look at these, look at the leaders, so to speak. well, these are not degenerates, certainly beautiful, but they have found well against whom to be friends, they have a common goal, they are united like never before. and most importantly, this one is new. look articulation will create between people's tribunal and it will already judge russia to take away its assets, those arrested in the west of the confiscatory active have not yet been arrested. and now to distribute it among themselves. what prospects do they open up further is the question. it will be necessary to restore ukraine after the war. is it really the west that will do it for their money. but why are they through international tribunals, proving everything to themselves and to each other, they will carry it all out? and now, for the russian confiscated, they are diverse. they will also restore ukraine that is, everything is logical for them. it is illogical for them that you are still on the un security council and it seems that you should be there and it

is impossible to throw you out of there, but i think they will. uh, russia is beyond all e legislation, because, well, that they talked to her, it’s possible for a very short time or the fact is that in order to help the international tribunal of russia to judge there is one, but a very important condition russia must first be defeated to actually be with her on the international demand. here they can they can do it in absentia we are here with you why there now do not judge, judging by the states of america, there are all the more reasons. the states have behaved like a terrorist throughout their history, a fact that no one can dispute, not even michael can. well, let's make a court here and so on , you understand, a state from this court. yes, the confiscation of your money is absolutely never necessary for the result, but for more it is enough and they are not for the result. they are not for the victory of ukraine. they are for the processes of destruction of russia and, of course, they are working for this process. in general, they are motivated, so to speak, in

in this sense, they are certainly consistent. uh, i think that nevertheless, of course, the degradation is on the face, by the way, here michael says, uh, and he also speaks logically. well, if a country convincingly proves that this concerns its security, then any of them. so to speak, a military operation without un sanction, whether it be a state or an israeli one, which, by the way, is also regularly regularly adopted. some israeli resolutions are adopted, but regularly. just frighteningly regular, i look, but israel is very impressed produces the answer no, but do not in this. so , but, after all, russia precisely expressed its views on security in december 2021 a year ago, after all, russia is in great detail. uh, you understand with reason e described that you remember lavrov's words what does it mean that the security approach cannot be, as he said. well, he is, uh, he is roughly

speaking universal, that is, one side cannot. uh, it means to encroach, but on safety, the other motivates one's own safety, and so on. no, this is inseparability, that it is a concept and everyone is obliged to take into account, so to speak, fears and so on. so we made it all. we have fulfilled all this. we presented it all. we said that, in fact, it can’t, so to speak, a normally capable country, which is being changed, does not pay attention. let's say the military bloc advances to its borders. what they told us, the americans still with the same disgusting white, so to speak, arrogance and arrogance say, this is your problem not ours, but eat, full with a spoon, comrade exactly for the west well, they were not destined to accept what nina said and said that she rightly does not have any ukraine for the west. there is this or that tool for putting pressure on russia, you know what's the matter, so she would not accept any formula, because the task is another pressure on russia, the destruction of its dismemberment is this task. this is the goal. yes? no, you don’t

understand the ideal form for the west in general. e management is a concentration camp. and here it is. this is not our work. let me remind you that in the german concentration camps, let's say, hair was cut separately with a woman. they are fine go for pillows. there are gold crowns on both of them. clear. this is generally, so to speak, should belong. russian people shoes separately. you know the person has to be sorted out and everything has to go in. this is it, just going on. i also support nina here that everything should work. that is, everything is clear to russia. they should, as it were , already, with our such barbaric language, rip apart, put it on the shelves for everyone. distribute everything and everyone should in this case. uh, how to be happy, it's clear one thing is that e nato all the time forget. with such things that it is just nato and a conversation with nato, after all, it can be how

diplomatic we have long since left diplomacy. we no longer have any contacts with nato from the word at all, but any next conversation. it will already be a conversation at the armament level of the weapon. god forbid, and in this, of course, god forbid, but in this case you need to understand that then from everyone, in general, uh, how to say it from all of them. e documents from all these decisions will not remain. even the dust is just because they remained. therefore, in principle, you need to understand that, of course, this is a wishlist and nothing more, respected by our experts, the chance rightly noted that no matter how wild and stupid it looked there, but as a step to take away, so to speak, already stolen for this so to speak its some. well, it's great for kids. we already understand very well that those 300 billion who froze this are all clear, but they themselves understand what it is like for them to live, do you understand? they have something they have here is the rule we have democracy. we have there are fundamental principles and their own fundamental principle is maintained. so, you ran away

somewhere constipation. here you have at least something at least some formal jackdaw. you have to put no. you see, we voted. now it's not stealing. now sergey vladimirovich's democratic procedure do you know what all this actually reminds of, that this call is a signs of russia being a terrorist regime, and so on. you know it reminds. such an internal instruction. there is such a kind of nato club understand, right? and despite the fact that it seems to be such a global swing, what to say like this, because terrorism is, in theory, there should be a universal concept, yes, that is, the whole world should say so, then yes, and in principle, this is something the idea was justice without borders. that's without borders. that was a fashionable idea in the nineties. here are the tribunals tribunals yes, yes, yes, yes, so to speak, well, this is all for your sake already with discord, but the very idea was justice without borders, that is, there should be no borders and some criminals should be punished,

when, in fact, humanity, it has absolutely nothing to do with this, it has nothing to do with it, it looks like such a, well, there is a closed nato club and there, inside this club, they distributed it to its members. here's how to say it. well, well, you understand the paper, the instruction is the first, the second, but it was absolutely right. it was indicated about this legal vagueness, because the paradoxical situation, on the one hand , terrorism has become, perhaps, the main challenge of e- human in the 21st century. what exactly is it about we all found out when the tracts were made, er, september 11th. yes, that is, this is the main thing, well, a weapon that is destructive in terms of destruction in general, so to speak, of what the post-war world was built on, on the other hand, and the play on words terrorism has become the most powerful political weapon, because in fact the definition is so clear what terrorism is. but no, that's why each side and

group of countries actively interpret it. well, for example, for israel, the terrorist state of iran . you understand, right? do you understand? well, well, iran actually, so to speak, a member of a member, so to speak, a worthy member. ah, the international salon, yes, that's all. we integrate into all structures further for someone terrorists, but for others it is freedom fighters . it is also so to say. yes, it’s disgusting, so to speak, to please, so to speak, the most important thing, the most, the main thing after all. but, returning to what justice without borders is. it eventually came down to the court of the winners. you see, you understand , everything will come, you understand, so to speak, to a certain department, and in which if an internal instruction, on which all these means disciplined people live. well, i'll tell you not to put on the edge between the world. and this large and dangerous

department of the department thought about how against us, as our enemy, these functions also continue to function, as our enemy, respectively, there is only one way out of this deadlock situation, the enemy must be destroyed. as a result, someday and somehow destroyed . someday our grandchildren, i don't know, and maybe even children will read history books, everything that we discuss is there. here all these days, all these months, all these terrible events. somehow they will be numb. there, probably, in one paragraph. here and including there is a place for some. well, at least what i want to tell you now, to tell you, sounds like an anecdote from the future is calling, somehow e macron, blowing means, emmanuel, respectively, anzhi, which means it turned out that this is not even manuel at all, but, on the contrary, vovan and lexus but the fact is that

these pranks really got through to the president of poland to anzhi and dudes on behalf of him, well, or a macron and talked. it was just the day when a ukrainian ukrainian rocket fell on the territory of poland, and here they were, so to speak, trying to probe his mood. you know, the mood surprisingly did not coincide with the media image, so to speak, of duda in particular and of poland in general. let's see fragments of this prank. yes, yes, yes, yes miss e lunch fights buying sides

sites so, well, what talented guys, how do they imitate, so to speak, uh, english frenchman 's subshine, that's all, right? well, here's a macron so, ostensibly their opinion speaks. well, according to the soul

, it also works. where he answers, it means that poland itself probably understands, the further the, uh, the deeper they understand what role i answered washington when ukraine ceases to cope with russian pressure, then the battle against russia the united states will abandon the poles themselves at least. here is what polish analysts write about this. if ukraine weakens, will the americans put pressure on the polish government to provide ukraine with direct assistance? ask yourself if we want are we ready to join the war today? the current representative of the ministry of foreign affairs, mr. lukasz jasina, said a few months ago that we are the servants of ukraine. warsaw sent more than 300 tanks to kiev, while we do not have an equivalent replacement for them today. poland is the main sponsor of ukraine , the question is whether it is in our interests to come into conflict with russia. good question. and by the way, it's surprising all the same, of course, uh,

some melodic names. yes, in the poles leszek with a cult after all. please tell me despite so to speak, in the name of a melodic one, after all, a pole is quite enough. well hello there is a question. how would you answer this question? she though amazing said really combined with polish pride. they still want to be the greatest. we say, the main sponsor of ukraine, where are those states, you understand seconds? do you understand poland? poland yes, of course, they don't want yours, like, obviously, i don't know, i don't know do thought. uh, what does he talk to pranker with prankers or not, but nevertheless they are. well, worked out so would not talk to them why talk, on the contrary stuck on it. it seems to me that if he addressed you, but nevertheless. yes, the poles do not want to fight. yes, the poles are monitoring every statement of your politician, when we reach the border of ukraine with poland, we will go further than them. it

's not very disliked. yes, the poles will give their weapons to ukraine so as not to fight with themselves , to fight themselves. in doing so, of course, they will require that, in general, i do something in particular to replenish their defense ability. uh, they will maintain nato bases on its territory. that is, i will not think that it is necessary to protect them and replenish them. their stocks, but it is much more convenient for them to fight with ukrainian hands than with their own hands is much more convenient. yes it is clear. yes, i wanted to say something. you, too, are talking about the provision of military assistance to ukraine, uh, and training, and so on. this does not mean going to war. this is a proxy war, and therefore, when he says that if he asks yes, but lie for help, this is a must. it means that we will go to war. this speech. no no no no no he says. but wait , after all, leszek from ikulsky, you know, uh, he knows his business, he is an analyst, so he says that he will put pressure on the polish

government in order to directly help ukraine. he apparently meant, just not directly mediated. it seems to me that you deliver something, you fight, you fight. you are fighting, as far as i understand this phrase, direct assistance. and when you yourself excuse me please, yes in a different way. yes, no one wants tomorrow, and not directly fight with russia, and i would he said that russia even less wants to fight directly, because putin himself said that the military potential of nato and russia is not comparable at all. this is e, that is, e 100 times more for nato, so russia itself does not want e directly. and as i said putin when he said how exactly he said the military potential of nato and russia are not comparable. yes, it was absolutely not him when he met the macron. he said it. well, it doesn't matter quite for a long time it was something they had with a macron. they haven't seen each other for a long time. yes, matron. see he is the one blew, but it's yeah so okay, he honestly said everything

that it's russia, so it's a large army, but it's not comparable. let me remind you about, and another proxy war, so 10 years, and the united states supports against the soviet union. it died in afghanistan. that is, we supported it for 10 years. and then these people talk about the country of a terrorist. we support this mujahideen against. i am not talking about that. i understand that no one wants to deal directly with russia. you never know what, who wants what wants nothing. i must understand you. yes, no one wants us, but sometimes so circumstances add up that you have to do what you don’t want, well, in afghanistan i understood everything, in ukraine it will also last 10 years. god forbid, i think that the west will do without a direct clash with russia, as was understood in afghanistan? tell me, please, as a military expert,

how much this one here wants or doesn’t want. this is understandable. it is, so to speak, a modality. we, we understand, don’t want, don’t want, don’t want, but it happens when especially. they themselves are correct. they constantly say, yes, on the eve, in fact, in general. the very fact of the existence of our civilization. this is an existential threat. what happens this crisis, so sometimes it happens through do not feel like having to do something. right? here is one for you. well, a real perspective. uh, practically a scenario of how this can be developed, or they tried to develop the story with the arrival of a rocket in poland. after all, she very clearly showed the whole scenario, so that the rocket would arrive. eh, zelensky, and like a rooster crowed for six, he flapped his wings, respectively, screams immediately began. i remember that's about this very fourth amendment, which is here, and the fourth there before the fifth is already quite a bit, because the journalists started the amendment and this article, if not a secret, an amendment, i'm talking about another space. well,

there are articles there, amendments here, and, of course, this is a situation that very clearly showed that hmm will swing. maybe at any moment on the other side of me, oddly enough, but not so much. well, as it were, as usual, eh lexus and vova, she can’t even laugh at the whole story, she always looks. well yes, comical here, she looked to me. this degree, well what is optimistic. i suddenly saw on my own. e absolutely like that. as it seemed to me half-mad dode, who always climbs there with zelensky’s localization, i understood, yes, i suddenly saw a person who, in principle, understands the rates are quite reasonable, as it were, comments. yes, therefore , of course, it can be concluded from this that there are still two polands, poland which is on external sale. that is, we are building poland from maybe, yes, maybe with everyone at the gate, a there is a second poland which does not sound like this at any cost. oh, and about now everyone will say. i just

want to talk about poland, and in general, i want to say that there are two realities: one is a rhetorical reality that really concerns everyone , and the other reality, so to speak, is real, because rhetoric is one thing. yes, and you understand, but another thing, so to speak, e another thing, when you have a machine gun teeth, then a single minute. it's me. in a rhetorical sense, this is understandable. well, as for poland, it’s interesting here, see how the european one of the building seriously writes from relatively. regarding perspectives and meaning in general, more current and future, please. after a rocket fell on the territory of poland from brussels to berlin, they began to fear that poland would do something reckless against russia, to which the polish authorities have a deep antipathy; instead, poland brought the armed forces on alert and began to expect developments. this calmness was generated by a simple reality in poland perhaps the best army in europe and it will only get stronger poland already has more tanks and howitzers

than germany and it is going to increase its army by 2035 to 300.000 military personnel compared to the current one hundred and seventy thousand in germany so, well, now it's important to say that this is generally a publication of american politics. and this, apparently, is simply not what is visible, but this is a european, so to speak, division that deals with european politics. and here it is, and this is the most american edition of the european interprets politics the fact is that this is an amazing bipolarity, e polish public consciousness, which is sometimes combined, by the way, even in the same personalities. it leads to the fact that, on the one hand, we observe such a well-known loudness in poland's foreign policy, that is, they are very noisy, they are very active. they are very aggressive visually, but at the same time, when it comes to what is called down to the point and comes. this is the very moment x and ​​just the same, polish policy is becoming very, very moderate and cautious in the polish language there is absolutely uh, an amazing

term at the junction of, let's say, the political science of sociology, but it sounds in polish, like in polish, and at the same time, the poles insist that it is completely untranslatable. katya, well, in the sense that it is difficult to translate it with any one term. although, well, polishness. it's polishness all somehow at once, and they roughly understand what is at stake. and this is actually. eh, this polishness in itself implies, but the concept of greatness, but the greatness is hidden and this is very important on this. uh, how it's yasha to leshek from ikul, that is, like, how to say, there is greatness, but here it is, for the time being, on such an underlying one. and, by the way, i noticed that in the french analytical press they very often began to get it. in general, already very archaic, but the concept, which is called poland - is the christ of europe, is such a concept. imagine yes and it's about how it should. to drink

the sins of europe from here, by the way, here is this well-known polish conservatism rejection no then resurrect. here is the key point, that is, the fourth speech, the commonwealth completely. uh, well, maybe, but it's not pronounced. there are two points in this formula. the first is that you have to take on sins, and then resurrect, but this is connected with the really dramatic, but polish statehood, which, as you know, has disappeared many times, so it’s clear that they really hurt a lot. and well, in general, everything then. listen, one famous british politician called them christ no longer. e europe and the hyenas of europe yes yes we are the name, that is this is the most conscience. yes, christo christ on the tank or christo christ loading, yes? here you see some kind of polish. yeah boss modernism is such in general, so to speak, full of politics in general. yes, you

know. here is a publication in politics. it did n't come about by accident. and this autumn, which has not yet ended, in general, there was a big noise, such a movement around it all came out of varsha around what is real. here is poland, uh, this is not just phantom pains in some majesty in poland, but the strongest army in europe it's all been described and so on, but if you look closely at this one, you'll look at the subtitle. he turns to big deals with south korea to establish dominance, that is, you understand, this is confirmed by this thesis that we are here in the army, perhaps better than the euro. so what am i talking about? and all this must be divided by seven, at least all these ambitions. that's what poland is like. now the powerful one will become another matter, wait, wait. wait, what exactly needs to be divided by seven, because inside inside, yes, what well, yes, yes, he will receive an army that

will be superior. why is it necessary to share something, and what happened there is very far behind the possibilities, because a country that without south korea cannot become this leader. you understand all this, and it is written with a pitchfork on the water. yes, yes, in this sense, more than 20. yes, the truth is that, of course, more here. in reality, poland may become the main beneficiary, and the ukrainian crisis of ukrainian unrest in the western camp, for many at the expense of you directly alone. let's the most important and we have advertising. well, firstly, most importantly, firstly, poland is conspiring around itself the most radical. eh, anti-e russian forces , and secondly, it actually claims more for a piece of ukraine yes, it claims a piece for ukraine hungary

, remember romania well, and so on.