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the flag of the donetsk people's republic is something that previously seemed unthinkable, well, now everything is possible, yes, any infamy now, so to speak, if it is political, so to speak, motivated in the right direction, then this is possible, if you know the expression monkey with a grenade but here without the grenade. she, too, does not become prettier on one condition, if she is not at the zoo, see you at 18:20 friends. i’m very worried about how she is there without us , my soul left with him, it’s just one thing. it’s good, she is our adopted daughter of parents from tajikistan why mom gives birth to children takes them from dad's maternity hospital, because mom has tuberculosis. they didn't give the child, you know, they went to another court and carried out the adoption there, as i did
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for another person. good afternoon, one dash on the birth certificate turned into a terrible tragedy for two families. what is this, if not criminal negligence? a real drama unfolded in the irkutsk region, two families
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cannot share a five-year-old girl returned, my girl returned immediately after the birth of her daughter, the biological mother of the child was hospitalized with tuberculosis. and later they were deported from russia together with their husband. the biological parents did not refuse the child. the only thing that my mother was sick was deported. so all 5 years. we fought for her custody of the girl, the family issued the bukhashevs and little anya began to live in their house. good beautiful. but when the girl was five , her biological parents showed up and demanded the return of their child? as
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it turned out, they did not abandon their daughter and that's it. this time they tried to return her after the birth, they came, they came for the first time in 2 weeks and the child should be approximately 2 months there. well, he wasn't there for two months. it means that he was already transferred to a foster family, the day of transfer, and not from one parent to another, became a real tragedy. oh, so every day i clean his things. that's how i understand today in the studio of the male female relatives and adoptive parents will meet again, to decide with whom anya will live today in our studio marina and mikhail bukhasheva. hello. hello tell me your story. what happened to our blowjob beloved girl. she is an adopted daughter, how
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long ago did you accept her into your family on december 8, 17, it was originally pre-custody. yeah end of february or march 1st. we have already passed the status of guardians. let's look at your history of finding this child. how would you like to become foster parents? we have been living together since 1997 and have been married for many years. eco passed times, four five, probably, was. uh, negative result. as a result, one of the evenings we sat talking. well, we decided to approach the issue of adoption, the establishment decided immediately it would be a girl who went through the school of her parents, then, uh, collected all the documents. registered as candidates for guardians. november of the seventeenth
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year. they called us and said that there is such a girl who will watch. we arrived. yes, of course, we will look at age. uh, 2 months, and left, uh, parents. no, off, archive of the birth certificate. of course, we gave our consent, understood that this is our daughter? i looked closely and already more or less, probably, i then said. can you live with us for the first 2 months. we didn't sleep at all. we watched everything. so, she is sleeping, and we watched right in the crib, how she sniffs there, there, like that, such a feeling was pleasantly good, we are here. marina and i were just happy. i think there is no other way to call you here. we never had any doubt that happiness lies, probably, in this child we adopted, that there might be such a situation that the
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parents would show up, there was no such conversation. that have calm down. yes, a girl in this sense and legally clean, so you take everything away, and where were the girls born? tell me in irkutsk well , the status of a citizen of the russian federation, he got here in june of this year, you came for her. they were exactly, and you changed, we changed, we gave a different name right away. right away we started calling anya here, as i understand it, that you live in peace for yourself. uh baby. your grow it, you create all the conditions and suddenly. in the month of august of what year, when did we learn about the existence of parents? how are you we found out about this, they called us from the irkutsk district court and said that we were invited. as
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third parties, the claim of biological parents is being considered, where are they? prove their ownership took place. why? well, they were refused in tomsk because the claim was drawn up incorrectly, and then in september they called from the guardianship and said that they were not here. well, they gave us a conclusion and the children are talking about daughter in september. we filed yeysk a was adopted and in october we received a court decision on the choice. i would still like to see where anya is lived with you and what conditions were created for her well. favorite toys. well, these are the houses. for some reason she always head them. that's how it
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tore off everything then it will come, she says, my mother collect them for me, i'm very worried about how she dreamed there without us that she came home. she looks at me and says, mommy, it's me, my soul went with him. i'm just doing one thing. oh what a closet everything is neat. we changed every day. nothing ever happened to her, my love. here is her oh dinosaur. i sniff by the way little thing, my little girl my. my wait is back badly everywhere. monstrous, that's all, of course, and in october of
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the eighteenth year, you officially adopted your daughter. yes, and what happened next in november of the eighteenth year? uh, we were notified of the searches, and already independent discs filed by the father and mother separately from independently received from the mother, where she demands to be deposited. e with a record, e, her birth certificate as matter, but, accordingly, separately the second of someone's father is the same uh-huh well, in the second disc, he had it addition with the right to transfer him to foster care the court ruled. but at the same time, the court refused to transfer the child in the interests of the child correctly. they recognized her as a mother, that is, it turns out, and you have revoked this right. here reality is included in its rights, since after all these are citizens
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of countries friendly to us, but not russians. there, one action took place, in which we will talk a little later, but for now this is a court decision that, like, when the biological parents are established, but the girl cannot be transferred, probably about something based, apparently, there was some kind of expertise, and so on. we did not see this examination, but we talked to a psychologist and kindergarten teacher, in which anechka went. let's hear what they told us. the attitude of parents to the child was such that i would like all parents to treat their children this way, because when they had a problem, they tried to solve it themselves. it’s just that they didn’t feel very good in the morning and didn’t want to go to the group, apparently, she and her mom and dad were much better than in kindergarten. they tried it, as i understand
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it, decide for themselves, and then turned to me. you know , the two of us came together, the usual mom comes alone, but we talked calmly and with such goodwill, without any claims to the teachers in the kindergarten, all the responsibility. they took charge of their child. for his upbringing. everything is great. in general, literally, probably, a week has not passed, all the whims have ended, that is, they have fully complied with all my recommendations, all my advice and that's it. it was done that way. just. well, u i have no other words than their praise. the situation anyuta is in now will definitely affect her psyche. and, of course, it will be reflected only in a negative way, when a child is taken from the family and thrown somewhere incomprehensibly to someone, in which she has never seen. you know when i read this. what was taken away? no, i'll pretend that my children were taken away from me. and the girl is good. girl, you are still a
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russian now, and your parents are from tajikistan the fact is that biological yes, the fact is that in this the period just when you were in litigation, they were deported right, and because of what did this happen? but we do not know, but because of what happened, that is, it is my fault. no, my mother left, on her own, because when my father stayed, we continued to go to court, and they themselves said that she had left the country. uh, the only reason is that dad came to court with his representative. this is the reason why we do not know when and on what basis you were deprived of the status of foster parents on july 22 of this year. of course we were shocked. e from what is this all happening? yes, that's just how we were called to meet. and well, we thought, in general, how would it be, if
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we have a constitutional state, it's like in our jurisdiction. we come, some kind of conversation is being held, that such a situation is developing, but there was some kind of story that happened when the child was taken away from you simply, well, not very good. since when the ministry began to work with us with the help and at the same time. well i don't know using there when they talk from you. here are 20 more people, run back. and you came and you came to this meeting at this meeting tells you, we all decide you status. yes does not explain why no you told us how your child is taken from you. let's see. well, it was here that this brawl began in my arms. and uh, the biological mother came up, and there was just enough , and with such hands, and and my daughter told me
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who mommy is, don't give me to anyone. i want to go home. mommy you me. there she said she grabbed it, and i remember, here she was in her husband's arms. and so i looked and so straight into my eyes, and she looked at me so looks. goodbye spring. well, you yourself are everything that i remember last. it was her eyes, he was a terrible fright, because i already understood that you can’t do anything against this crowd. here is the car. they put me in this car. well, then, to the sound of flashing lights, we were taken away. this office badly called an ambulance for me. i can't hand. couldn't do anything. when they put me there, the injections were less, i felt better, and i left the ambulance there was no one there. they have all already left. so i didn't see my daughter. well anya is not with
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them. she's in an orphanage, that's right, why is she with them with them they keep her at the consulate, she lives with the baby in the consulate. well, we don’t know where they said that yes, it’s understandable, but how his father was deported so these apartments, he is in his homeland the fact that she was recognized as a citizen and of the russian federation, of course, does not allow her to be taken out of the country with one sides. but on the other hand, you have a version of what the parents are fighting for, the main version, of course, is - this is for their entire family to return here, well, in russia, of course, the child is a citizen of the russian federation simplified procedure for obtaining citizenship. in a year. they become citizens of the russian federation all in russia premiere from monday on first gus i am
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studio hello hello you know before how to talk to you? let's hear what you've told us about how you generally got into this story. well, let's get into it, yes, let's, well , my friend turned to me, but he also turned to me in the month of november. so, then i did not betray this significance, that, as it were, maybe, how can you not give up the child. i kind of told him you enter custody, then do there what you apparently ask them to do. that's what you're apparently not asking you. he says no. they do not mind. they say that we will not give you a child, so forget that we we will call the migration service and take the rest of the children from you. well, how can you not give up the child. but when i already realized that there was something in general, as
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it was, this is the very thing, that they are generally, well, by no means taken for anyone. i said guys, i won't leave you. i started doing this business in january of the eighteenth year. i have no special education. no. in general, i am an accountant. i worked as an auditor. as it were, legally, for several years, it means, well, savvy, i know a little something that i didn’t know i chose from the internet. i saw a very simple question. to you. why was all this necessary? well, people turned to me for help. how could i leave them. and who are you a lawyer - these are your relatives. no, it’s just a person who lived with me, who rented an apartment with me for many years, which means, and he has these people. dad worked as a baker. dilshod called me and says that their fifth child was born, and they don’t give him a child. how can you not give your own child to the mother. so i immediately told him so, as if i were saying why you are there, let him go. he knows
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where to go. let him go to the hospital once the child is in the hospital. mom gives birth to children takes them from the hospital. the mother has tuberculosis and the child is placed in the hospital so that immunity is revealed at 2 months. here the pope provides fluorography. he takes it away, you understand that this is absolutely nonsense. well, you don't tell me that. that i would have come to the hospital. we were told that we needed to bring the documents and climbed in. they just didn’t come up with a husband, explain to me where they will bring mom so that mom breastfeeds correctly, mom doesn’t breastfeed fed, because the mother takes the milk, where he brings the child. well, of course, by the time he brought it, where he would bring it. why can't mom pick her up from the hospital? well, from the hospital we have such laws. you are just an illiterate person, absolutely guardianship authorities, and at first the valiant maternity hospital did everything so that the child did not have parents. then they
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correct the situation and did everything that the child had parents. a 5 year old child lives with these parents. what do you think, if the girl turns up today, she will already be with her mother yes, she will leave, tajikistan will not will it hurt the child? no, i don't want to at all. this is some kind of zero, because she is happy there in this family, and in this family she is unhappy, and the child should be in her birth family. they had a pick, of course, she's there now, of course, let's see how generally, of course, happy. these are wonderful people, which means they have four children. anna's fifth child. this is a very friendly good family, and here he works as a baker. mom takes care of the kids. and they have a russian-speaking family at the moment they are in novosibirsk, they cannot leave on their own, but since you closed the exit for them, so now there are trials in the
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future, they will be able to leave russia and go to tajikistan now we will call anarmu, and they hello, my dear, what how are you girls doing? okay? something was sleeping, or what? or that you we play girlfriend. how do you feel? okay, anechka, do you want to visit your dad? if you want tajikistan, well done, you will go, soon your mother will love her very much. what are you doing? tell me something about your mom in short, you're out there. but you don’t feel sorry for these parents, i feel sorry for these parents and thank you for
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not raising them, but the fact is that they were originally up to the very. here they are all 5 years of sticks in the wheels come. they didn't give birth to a child. you see, they changed gave two, they changed, patronymic. and that they changed their place of residence, when we were in court, so we proved the motherhood of paternity. they went to another court and had an adoption there. and what were they to do with the court decision to read and read when they once again faked false documents among, as false testimony. they had them there they said the parents i know they know they don't know them. and we have such a law, if the parents are established. uh, the parents of the other side, so within six months the child does not return. and this is not a third party to do, as i did, but the guardianship returns with good intentions. out on the road where? you arranged, you personally staged hell now, and one parent and the other,
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moreover, this year, the guardianship authorities, most likely, those who made the decision, will also burn down, but the most parasitic, we also have not only guardianship bodies. we have representatives, well, legal representatives in the form of the prosecutor's office and the protection of the rights of the child, the commissioner for children's rights in the irkutsk region gave us the following comment , a tajik passport was presented and, uh, it was not counted as a document and this woman was accepted as having given birth without a document, certifying identity. and so, as our legislation says, if a child was born without a document, e.g., a woman who would certify her identity, and in her certificate birth certificate is not issued. and if she does not undertake the world, she does not come, does not bring a document confirming, but the child cannot live indefinitely without being registered. and what happened in this situation for more than a month. mom, also due to objective circumstances, because
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she did not appear in a medical institution, but such a gap in information was not the relationship of the child was really registered with dashes. i'm just sleeping now what is a passport in general, in principle, a passport this is a document, which is issued by authorized persons in order to certify the identity of a citizen, where it is issued for banuatu, anywhere. yes, it doesn't matter at all. it just doesn't matter. and these are, if i may say so, dear ladies, i see this emergency department for myself. what is it? no, no, it's all in the trash. this is not a passport and a dash a dash, and this began, of course. these creatures should be in jail. well, of course, they should sit, but then the guardianship authorities, who perfectly understand the situation , know perfectly well what happened, i know where in this moment mom, what she is being treated for, where dad
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knows all this. they speak to respectable citizens. those who have a difficult situation in the family cannot have children . yes? take the child refusenik. well, just really have to sit down the question. you understand what to do with a child now, what’s okay, maybe a child there, due to age, will get used to his mother to his own biological one. but they won't stay here. they want to leave tajikistan, but the ban has been put in place. you are ready to lift the ban. we consider ourselves real parents and want to try. leave in what ways? well, we want what state the disease of the mother, the girl is now in, she was cured. but now tell me onargol, what does he live on now? well, it works send money helps with the embassy. this is what i hear for the first time that the husband also works for cyst a and sends money to
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russia so that his wife and child live here. here you are a wizard. just let's so we have a short video where they get to know their mother, let's see. because she's scared. well, i'm not a psychologist, especially not a child psychologist. well, it's quite clear that the child so easily went to his mother only because the
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parents are sitting, of course, well, only for these yes, now, look at the smell, i determined, probably, yes, i'm turning to you. we looked at the playground transfer of the child. you told us a completely different story. let's take a look and determine for ourselves who. so, here was the child's rights guardian of the guardianship department , so we are all the police, so it was already called in advance. we were all waiting here so that when bukhasheva arrives, so that there was a transfer of the child, when they immediately made a scandal here. they started calling their relatives from around 30 people. yes, they definitely did. so, here are the bruises. they show there, so no one beat. they mean so around with their hands clinging to each other so that the child can. well, it was impossible to approach this one. here is the bench. so, it turned out that we
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wanted to pick up the child, as if for the mother to take it in her hands, which means that they directly started a fight and began to rush at her. she became ill. she lost consciousness, but we put it down first, it was raining, everything was covered in mud. everyone was all generally smeared, in short, it all continued. probably before 9:00 p.m., the child was taken away, which means that the special reception center and we had to get out, like a car, which means that my children were sitting in the car, but at that time, it means, fly, my car was turned over. they broke off my mirror. so, from the other side, the razrek was torn off from the car. they pulled out my hair, and on a watermelon, they twisted two fingers. only we did, or something, this is what your relatives did after this, when we they called that they took you to volzhskaya, or are you your relatives? don’t you remember what happened on volzhskaya, what you did, this news was more than that, volzhskaya what are you saying, you came up saying that there are three of your women here who made me witnesses, there are a lot.
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now, after this program, such a disassembly will begin with us. where your listen, where your clumsy participation will already come last. we have criminal cases filed. already, except for only it seems that the people have not yet brought a house, they have brought it on the line. skuyu guardianship. criminal case criminal cases are instituted. i want to call anna khalaeva's family lawyers here to the studio. good afternoon may i ask tolmacheva's trustee a couple of small questions to sort things out a bit? yes, yes, i would be happy. if she were pressed now to the place where she sits, be kind. clarify please. but why anyway? well, i did not hear your objective answer? why couldn't the biological mother pick up the child? firstly, it was not the maternity hospital that initially issued a birth certificate to her . reasons for not transferring the passport. this
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passport was not counted as a document. and why is it not a question no longer for me, this is already for the maternity hospital. this is a question for the mother. no. well, if i did not give out, and you do i need to withdraw. you are generally sane, you are good. everything is fine. i have listen, i have three children. if no one in the maternity hospital gave you a certificate. i would stand on this labor. i would have smashed it to the brick, if they didn’t give me, well, that’s the problem for them. that's why i took care of them, you know, mom's problems, if she was born and left they gave the child they didn’t give the pass other things, the mother would still not need this child, of course. well, how is it, of course, she now wait, everything is silence, otherwise you don't just ask this question for a reason, according to medical documents. it was indicated to the maternity hospitals that the biological mom
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came to the maternity hospital without an identity document, that is, based on the materials that i saw, i can conclude that, and she, being, came here in the sixteenth year in the month of april through krasnoyarsk did not rise to migration registration, as required by law , lived lived on the territory of the russian federation for 9 months bore a child. yes, and did not bother to register for pregnancy. yes, how do a woman who wants this child do it, and here she came to a medical institution without a passport, because you understand that she may be deporting her, because immigration is studying. yes, migration legislation, because , accordingly, i think so. she probably called her just general personal data. patronymic date of birth and personal data, perhaps dads, the very fact that this happened was a violation, this served as a lack of information in the column and with
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reservations that the passport was not like that, something was done wrong. each step behind him served as a pretext for this violation to be even significantly insignificant such a notion is always patient zero. this is where it all started. the story is your biological parents, your friends, who, having violated one law, the most important one, rolled a ball behind them, arrived at the maternity hospital, did not stand on account for tuberculosis. i don’t have a passport, then the baby was taken to the hospital and followed. are you saying that your trustee went to tajikistan for treatment yes, but the child stayed here and dad went to court and also continued until his biological father, for obvious reasons, the girls could not come to our studio simply because he entry in russia but agreed to talk to us via video link, and here hello. please tell
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us why you were unable to pick up i don’t even know the child from the maternity hospital right away, but when we were sent to this, firstly, we were told that we have, like, i live here illegally, for this reason, forget the child who was insane and live in peace. in short, if you complain somewhere, we call, and i call the fms for deportation and the rest of your children. we will pick up. who specifically said, she did not confess. she was such a woman, where this woman worked in the care of lenin peak
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with a service guaranteed rate guarantee without surprises mail bank ilyich korzukhin, yes, it’s me, your wife serafima vladimirovna, who came to you from st. to the 95th anniversary of vladimir naumov and here it means that the situation that has developed now is the first
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main fault of yours and your wife, the second main fault bodies of state power of the russian federation and the third fault. i won't take it anywhere. this is your principal, who brought the matter to the point of absurdity to the point of injuring the child and is now still proud of the fact that she helps someone often what to do, a conflict arose, which is that your spouse. legally while staying here on the territory of the consulate. uh tajikistan lives there with your child who is a girl who is a citizen of the russian federation and has a travel ban, tajikistan what about us do something next? you will live like this in the consulate, and you are there, of course not. i want her back. and it’s just to take someone else’s child to re-register
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when these respected people who raised and fed your child for 5 years. they came to the guardianship authorities and asked what they were told with their parents: no parents, a dash in their parents. sit down and talk to the foster parents. all right, goodbye. think i don't want to talk about this anymore at the studio, another lawyer, right? alexei mikhaila how do you see the situation as a priority? be the interests of the child, which in the first place must be respected is the opinion of the child. although she did not reach the age of ten, but 5 years. she can already express her opinion. you saw on the video, she doesn't reach out to her biological mother. she doesn't know her, well, she saw her twice, so, and all the conditions have been created for the guardians. well excuse me
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folded even call the guardians. they are parents. they took him like this and raised him to the age of five. i am very worried with you . here is marina. accept my support. i see yours. that's just how mom understands you. your eyes. you tears are really your child and the trauma that she is now receiving anechka mama maria here. well, your child has two genders, no one thought about how she would continue to live, because childhood trauma remembers, she does not remember. from birth we get trauma, and then the trauma of rejection of rejection from your own mother is from you marina and it is difficult for her to convey that here irina is fighting for rights. and here is my dad, he has no registration. he can't break the law to enter the child has. there is a feeling of being thrown away. oh, it
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is, and you understand that you are fighting now, you are fighting for the happiness of your future child , he will live with you, he will not live with you, how to decide the law in a state of law. unfortunately , according to the letter of the law, but speaking from the heart, the girl should be where she was, i really need to convey. today, my heart was broken twice, because of course i condolences to my fellow citizens on their side. but when i heard the story of this father, whom i told, how their child was taken away from them, well, how is this something clear that they violated all the laws, but is it really such a retribution for violating the migration law? now we need to take the children away and, of course, the perpetrators who did this are also our citizens of russia, our state bodies must pay for this. and of course, here it is. as i understand it, therefore the investigative committee. initiated this criminal case. i hope they will bring it to the
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end and punish them for not hiding their own people, because this is not allowed to suffer here, and these and those people, because they, too, started to fight because of this child. well i want to say. this is a banal word to negotiate, but i know perfectly well that in these conflicts this is something of a category. do you understand fantasy? not when you have a good mediator. you understand everything can be done, but as long as there is irina, i can insert one moment. we called in the twenty-first year , azizu. uh, phone call. we wanted to agree on a constructive dialogue put forward, uh, options, but on the other hand, just give it back. do you influence your mother on your trust? why doesn't she negotiate with them? it 's in the interests of her daughter. eh, this side can be filled up with your root, in general, the root arises, from where from the moment, but the establishment of adoption. for some reason, you merged the court; you had the primary
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initial decision, which was in your favor, by which a fact called recognized the right of the parents was established. and you can win without all these irins, even they are their names in history, not even mentioned. this. well, it's actually not that hard to do. just him to himself. maybe your representative there was weak or he was not at that authority. but there you need to win there? well, everything, everything will be established for you, the adoption will be everything, why did they lose everything, because the adoption was carried out according to false documents. you understand, you will first read the decision of the court before giving such advice. read the judgment first one day, who committed the forgery? why are they free? well , read the solution here. you do not bothered to read more than one answer to your inquiries about the fact that your wards entered the territory of the russian federation and do not know who
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i put here, because here is such a folder, when should i read something? i'm just heartbroken. you live so heartily. yes, if only to help someone who can now give birth to a child, they will take him away from you, and then you do not have such rights to him and you want to comment normally on her. now entered. you didn't even give me one. this told me, please, a very correct phrase. what it is you can give birth to the parents of the child, and then take it. select essentially. they also gave birth to her, but you can’t, and they took her away five years later. and instead of doing people a normal service, it turns out to be a bear instead of doing everything so that they
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agree among themselves you drive even more, wedge into their relationship, who will be worse off, i'll tell you who one very little girl who someday she will become an adult woman, but deep and crippled thanks to you, and this program will forever remain on the internet, who is its main villain, she will know and you will have to live with it. thank you very much for my child's decision. on the street, they often show fingers of diseases, that is, rare ones, life expectancy, without treatment 8 years at 10 years old, it’s dad, because he never had such a thing. he sleds everywhere. here. is that in your child you? even finger

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