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1974 and the film kalina krasnaya two more wonderful interlocutors irina vladimirovna krutikova joined our conversation. fashion designer, designer, honored artist of russia and vladimir devyatov , people's artist of russia in the repertoire, as i understand it, a huge number of folk songs, which is also important for us in this vein of conversation. well, take makarovich was a man. oh amazing talent. uh, and, of course, in this picture, she completely absorbed the mentality of ours, as it were, she very generally about us, she burnt out. it's about the village , about our character, and so on, and it's incredible. i think, uh, here are the costumes in this picture. they are

very much the same, also speaking in their own way, which are the characters of this picture, and so i would like to, and irina vladimirovna, call with me to these mannequins, which we now have here in order to discuss, uh, well , main costumes, and then nёmsya, we will continue to discuss the basis. here we are presented twice, which means that the hero yegor itself and, uh, here is the heroine of lady nikolaevna, i just wanted to pay attention. all your personal. why did you like it and that's it, then say stranger is unknown, or rather, this and unknown unknown. yes, it's a shock that hung on the wall. yes, it was my idea, it's amazing, because it seems to me that such a telling detail is true,

vladimir, here's what you will tell us about these pendants with paintings by artists. well, these are very expensive things and very valuable, of course, and decorating, but i don’t know how you know better, of course. it was, but that in the countryside such violence, i don’t know, at least i haven’t seen it. i was very much not quite. well, in small cities, i worked a lot, because our fur industry was located in all such small cities. so i have not seen anything like this, even like a red shirt on a man. yes, it seems to me that this is, well, a little touched. uh-huh well , why doesn’t he want a guy like that, who just wanted some kind of holiday all the time the soul asked. it seems to me that perhaps so artistic. the reception, of course, is such a pure cinematic in general in the cinema very often the costumes.

eh, embellishes a little does. it's a little better. what they really were at that time. yeah, especially since if here are pictures, well, he takes pictures at this time, yes, then embellish a little, in general, not only as far as the countryside is concerned. well, the townsmen also wear a suit uh-huh , why do you say that this was an expensive thing . some plastic ones. hey, pendants. or is it that i am being deceived? memories no, well, after all, this person must be completely different, which is one nikolaevna. yes, of course, it is precisely this pendant that very much determines this very personality. i do not take. now, in general, this hero here. yes, the content of this hero gives an absolutely precise definition. uh-huh, and as for the general, here is a white blouse, a plaid skirt. so we found out that this, of course, is from the wardrobe of lady

nikolaevna, but in principle, it seems to me, this is quite a festive one. uh, the solemn look is the soviet era, which could exist at any time, a plaid skirt with pleats. a white blouse, or any other plane here, will do, and you will always do well, you still have to go out . like this. day off is perceived, it seems to me, today we would say that these are casual clothes, but in the seventy-fourth year it is still more, well , more elegant. and as for this magnificent mannequin, it captivates, well, the images, which, of course, it is clear that this is unthinkable humor. so to speak in this. it seems to me that the suit is laid or not, or that the length of the jacket corresponds to fashion. no, it corresponded, but it also hurt more of an urban version, just at that time men's jackets appeared, which were somewhat elongated and something in between a

jacket and a half-length. wow so average. well, it's dudes to apply. this is the pioneer version. although this is today. here are the perceptions. it's very funny when there are few legs left, and the jacket is so long and it seems, it even seems to me that such a fashion we have not yet returned so much for me. the same can be seen as writes as a semi. that 's how a short coat is just the length. very good, which is the shoes that were singled out in the movie for how keenly popular they were. you know, i do n’t remember it at all, but she has suede boots, i have low shoes. i now pay attention that men go to suede. and so, somehow, you know, i'm not unequivocal about this, because suede shoes. she needs to be able to wear and care for her. this it’s not like you threw it off your foot there anyway, like this one, which means there is the most chic, so to speak,

of course, but i chose leather shoes with discontent to make it easy. god forbid, and then there will be rubber. yes, and suede means you have money. if you have suede, if you can afford to buy suede shoes, among other things, it means that you still walk on clean roads. that's right, because, because you basically in the countryside mostly wore. galushki and everything possible shoes, he is, as it were, in the country now we wear it like that in the village, everyone wore it, yes, and this was paid a lot of attention, they were never different and were very beautiful. well, let's remember how suede boots are actually presented. i can carry bulls' tails. because i'm all around in suede. so what we have here. handsome

, well, they shuffled to their liking. as for the tie, like ties at that time they were just the same, because they were patterned, but they were so active, active and very large in size. yeah, these here you can't even see where it ends. it's definitely below the waist. goes. well, with such a jacket, you could afford it, and the cap is so tiny, while this is also, respectively. yes, yes, this is the image that we can see here, if we look away, this villager is non-rural, it's really poignant. fashionably dressed man in seventy-four . well, it's not sharp fashionable, well, fashionably fashionable is not

indifferent. yes. it is not by chance that he is so indifferent to me. well, the shoes are also picked up, right? or okay, thank you very much. let's go back to the floor now. but i think it's very important still has as dressed. uh, in the thieves' raspberry there, here, just everything is very fashionable, there is lucien's wig. and there, uh, the maximum. it seems to me that all the most chic trends are expressed, how they worked on these images. eh, glacier nikolaevna, do you remember my tanya gavrilova? hey classmate? uh-huh, when lucy refused, i had to go on an expedition, as well. well, in general, we were all friends together, she was friends with anatoly zabolotsky operator. uh, and uh, vasily didn’t even take anyone on it and he says, these are the traces he taught. sanya says she was a better actress

on the course. eh, that's just a wig. this is purely coincidental. she just came a little so easy. the condition and something of her hair is red white gray black and she needed this wig. that is, it was necessary to somehow cover them with something. but it was fashionable wigs, but it might have been fashionable, but they simply did not exist. but still, thieves, raspberries, she had a spout, then there was other money, therefore, they could afford anything. but the cap, it is such a knitted cap. here is a gray one, too. here, a sign of the mid-seventies or not. this is not such an emphasis, maybe this was the case, but rather. here is such a crumpled cap uh-huh, and it is made of leather or fabric. rather, such a person is dirty. well, the most

maximum friend is, of course, georgy burkov in this company is simply a luxurious handsome man. a light raincoat of light velvet. cap, well, just some kind of eye tie in a cage, and also some kind of pastel intellectual. uh, how is vasily makarovich to his, uh, close friend, as i understand it, right? roy why this particular role he chose for him. uh, well i don't know why i ca n't answer for him. oh, and as for the costumes, uh, then uh. well, if you like it, the actors, it is convenient for him to play and speak, otherwise no matter what artist there is, the costume is super there. and what he sees and what he has drawn in sketches. eh, well, you can still say. i'll talk to the director. these things are normal. this is natural, especially

since this is not a historical costume that should correspond to something there. this is actually our time stunning, uh, who can do anything. uh, nothing, not playing. eh, so play that you never dreamed of called him this role he liked again. i want to tell a story. it's much. everything is more interesting. well, of course, deeper, of course, but uh, as if shukshin was no longer interested in this raspberry. well, now i propose to remember, there is one more episode. ah, first appearances. e your heroine, when she leads e, the hero yegor in the tea room thank you listen, come on, let's go look from here. well, what are they to you

let them look? you didn't run away. here is the help. well how long did you sit last time i sat for 5 years. it is with such and such hands. you're an accountant. i can't even believe it. i already trained them there, you know, they sewed slippers. with such hands only break locks, they sew slippers. well, you say. and what about trees? well, yes, derevenskaya didn’t dress like that. i liked it now they condemn me. that's her. we just discussed with her whether this is so to speak, a trend, or is it still work. e costumes in this particular movie. everything happens, uh, happens in a suit. uh

the artist insists on her own, of course, if this is historical, and this is modern, but she is ready to meet her e, groom. why why not? i wanted to ask about tea red shirt, i bought this one in kostroma at the market, right? i went to the publishing house. you know that a red fish was bought for him because of the strip. oh, they bought it especially for this film, yes, i bought it especially for filming, because it seemed to me that i loved i used to love red, and it seems to me that this is when timur, there is a conversation about fashion, when they are handless with their wife talking there, that's who senka razina brought there. i found it, it seemed to me that he should be like that. here. well, i don't know how bright it is. however, you know, this is what

red is, of course, for the countryside. it's very childish. yes, it's incredibly cheeky. and of course, according to the film, and films - it was very suitable. these are absolutely ideal options, they found that this is red and that 's it for this hero. i'm just asking for millet , i thought, i know that yes, yes, but if we talk. at in general about the countryside and how they dressed, well, how they dressed, they dressed like this so that the dirt could not be seen. and by the way, to say at that time there were generally, you know, such silpo stores there and vodka and bread and kerosene and absolutely magnificent clothes and terrible clothes. well, it’s great, because representatives were sitting on the purchases , but what we now call brokers yes, foreign collections were shown and brokers from different department stores were sitting. and representatives from each silpo sat there, and they do not know

why they chose the best that was presented there, and it was all sold in every taste. people had a good one, apparently, if they chose the city itself, they carried it, god knows what was in the village. you know, you won’t see this in the city when there are 150 things hanging in the city and among them there are three beautiful you. you will never find these three beautiful ones, but here on the counter. here is everything together. and here comes in all together stands a herring and austrian shoes, and both a dress and japanese poplin coats on faux fur are closed up in a circular leather. that is, such in moscow i didn't see it at all. do you wonder why she's dressed like that? e, love, she went to her strength to buy an unknown white blouse, passing by the fact that i had a village house in e sashkov and

coming past rural shops, it was a general store or there it was all of us, as in school. well, they didn’t buy it, of course, if there was money, it’s possible, where did you get our city girls from there they ask from the village, and there everything is hanging and who doesn’t need it? why did woolen things hang there too? absolutely magnificent, probably, true life in parents reflect in this sense. lyuba just here they are dressed as much as possible, so to speak, are close to our idea, but lyuba still meets a person with whom she corresponded for a whole year, yes, therefore, she has, so to speak, a special, uh, look at her costume, as for the tea room? do you remember this in itself? here is a phenomenon, what is it? it was as popular as here selpo was. desperate ones were teahouses. they were wine glasses, because that's why they were very popular. that is, they didn’t drink tea there,

they sawed everything there, that is, they take any for everything, lie. yes, herring austrian shoes nearby, and there, too, they all drank everything, you must have impressions of the desperate. no. here you spent the night. i am in the farmer's house. yes? yes, no, but i remember that really, when we were filming somewhere in a small town. villages, we asked to be taken to the general store to buy some little things. this is definitely vladimir a. what about? uh, you, here is a man who had so many folk songs in his repertoire. eh, they are, was it allowed to somehow branch off in terms of costume or it was necessary to observe a certain dress code and be , so to speak, in the folk style or a tie like you might not have known then. yes, it’s me today’s word, the answer to a picture of some kind was today , it’s clear to everyone, look. of course, i might

say. and my opinion, which differs from communication here now, first of all, i had a red shirt. also, you see, irina vladimirovna no, she was there, it was just in the seventies, so i had a gray, elongated jacket and a red shirt. here with such same. with these long ones, i don't know what it's called skates. yeah, so it's uh, it was trendy stylish. yes, if we talk, about how vasily makarovich is dressed. yes, here i can say that this, of course, is an exaggeration. come on, it's obvious, that's even a case, yes, in his hands. well, it certainly was. here is the case - it means that everything is in order with you. you are doing great. yes, you're doing well. here you have a red shirt, this fashionable tie and a case. it may be empty, it doesn't matter,

but this one doesn't just have this selection. he he was very literate, just like glacier nikolaevna . here in this white blouse with this little thing. she meets a loved one, whom she lays down her hope and life, of course, she dressed up, of course, she, that is, well, if we talk about the film as a whole, i can say and here's a folk one. first, there's a huge, well, some folk songs, and it starts right off with a folk song. yes , it means that in general this film is like a folk song, because folk songs are funny 50 about 60%, and sad 30-40%. likewise here and here funny, and up to more sad. there are moments when tears well up, and there are moments when you sit by your stomach holding on to waste. ugh when they kill him. yeah, to whom i'm talking or when he starts

to sing this one like this, you know, and at the same time, he's joking. again, some jokes there, jokes from folk songs, so the film. well , i think that this is one of the most brilliant films of god, you understand, uh, because it was filmed, i just mean, without any modern special effects. yes, some kind of technical means some kind of computer graphics, everything was filmed simply, but nothing was so great, yes, but it was great filmed so much that it shoots to this day for how many years he is 45. yes, it's true. another accepted time i want to mention this. but when people are sitting with yegor and they are looking at a photo album. this is practically already gone from our life such. here, unfortunately, yes,

such a detail, when all all the relatives and photographs, these are one big one, the other is quite tiny, some kind of postcard, glued. it's just going away due to the advent of we all have cell phones that we don't know for all the time, i don't have this phone print out the old fashioned way. yes, it's wonderful. you have many photo albums at home. i have a lot. and i understood that there would be a lot of photos. and so, when there was some kind of trip or a picture, or some kind of meeting. besides the fact that i keep a sixth grade diary, right? here i come somewhere i meet some interesting people, that is, they have an interesting impression there. you his album was recorded directly into a photo album. why because they get lost, they steal them, and because of the album it is already difficult to steal. that is, you paste

directly? there, in the same place, as it is, if the album is large, such a page is peeled off there, yeah, yes, and photographs are put and glued together. yes, and already because of the album, such an album will really disappear. yes, everything was done differently, there are corners and so on, and black-and-white photographs were inserted there, depending on the size, these corners were glued, we are looking for steel before my grandmother had a desk or lay plastic and plastic all the grandchildren. granddaughters, great- grandchildren children yes. yes, yes hate, namely here under the glass it was written on the table everything was covered with photographs fairly, in general, with photographs, if we say, here are modern technologies. i also use them, e modern conditions. i don't think they are that

durable. here, uh, i have pictures that my parents brought. e your grandfathers great-grandfathers there. yes, i have photographs of my grandfathers, there are a thousand e, 879 of the ninety-second year, and i i know, here they are, i see them, they have been preserved for more than a hundred years, my friends, when i was 75 years old, they took a piece of obla, well, it remained after the repair, yes, and they pasted my different photographs and from different e, books of these people. the directors of the actors and i have a photo here from the eighth. in short, yes, i have a piece of shoes with me here. so, my photo with number 8 on the map just wanted to show. with age, changes in vision can

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today we remember the year 1974 and the film vasily makarychev shukshina red kalina. today we are talking about red kalina, as an absolute classic , we have no questions. why is he there is a topic like why it arose at that time, but for the seventy-fourth year. it was pretty good anyway. well, so to speak, an unexpected appeal to the theme of the village to this type of person. uh, well, so to speak, this whole topic was absolutely in its own way revolutionary, because for contrast, one must understand that in the seventy-fourth year, for example, it appeared on television screens, and the transmission of the morning post. and that's what it was filled with. let's remember. the first release of the program appeared on the screens in 1974, millions of viewers of the soviet union hurried to the tvs to see the smile of yuri nikolaev and hear their favorite songs, when we were looking for an excellent one, the program was

so popular that even in the soviet army, the viewing item was on the weekend routine tv shows, i listen to the soviet union and the morning post, comrade viewers. allow me to report to the musical student construction team. arrived at your disposal for the erection of the building of the morning mail mood major rhythms modern instruments in order the head of the detachment yuri nikolaev come on, guys. the main idea of ​​the program is the fulfillment of requests from the audience . bags of letters came to the editorial office with a request to perform their favorite musical composition. some of them the presenters read out in the studio, dear presenters. sorry i don't remember your last name recently, one

song was featured in one of your programs. unfortunately, i didn’t remember the author’s last name, i remember it, a man just sang it. could you pass this song again. well, such letters are not uncommon, dear comrades. sorry, i don’t remember your name, patronymic, we are happy to fulfill your request, the same male lion sings. nikolaevna stayed here. and why, because the photo is pasted here? we are with you, in short, and with the children and shukshin's inscription was like that. unfortunately no fili famous italian world famous director e fede yes, and he writes to me filini, because i am fedoseeva lidia nikolaevna of the first, this is not a bad world at all. here's a

gift they gave me. you see, well, it's wonderful here only both. it seems that my family is not a village family, in any case, i am still leningradka yes , but such a gift was made, my wonderful intellectuals, apparently, tographers. excuse me please, well, thank you very much. well, uh, if we return to the morning mail, the one we just watched the story about, there are requests viewers, basically, so to speak, concern. i would say confrontation between urban and rural. well, of course, yes, the townspeople were triumphant, were the townspeople interested, vladimir how much at the same time, uh, did you feel, uh, the demand for the folk genre, or what? and did you understand that it was unfairly relegated to the seventies? the folk song was not pushed. in general, even now it is not retracted by and large. i'll just

tell a story. it was during this period that i studied at the military academy of chemical defense for seventy the second for 78 years. we had the academic ensemble arsenal in which we are in a club at the academy. uh, it's not far here on baumanskaya, so they rehearsed in the same club. uh, the rosconcert artists were rehearsing, in particular, i am rehearsing the ensemble with good fellows and, uh, a wonderful performer of russian songs from the guitar zhanna bichevskaya and it was there that i had this desire, these folk songs. i tried mine and it worked. well, apparently, nature is the mother of the lord god, then i have the opportunity. e want and perform, that is, the artists on the stage were ivan nikolaevich sudzhikov. yes. hmm, folk songs were constantly heard on the radio performed there by sergei yakovlevich. yeah. state policy is this balance, or something, between yes, i'm absolutely sure of this?

why did it exist? after all, uh, the structure of the editorial office of folk art, which dealt exclusively with folk affairs, there were people who were professionals in this, they were given a certain time, air and so on, and therefore a folk song. she has been on television to a greater extent. so than now, that is, they transmitted folk song, so she was not in the corral. and now she is in his pen. right now, i would say you can observe, uh, such an effect. i don't know, really everything about young guys. i think that they already have some kind of aesthetics of their own, but for all that, well, a huge number of strange performers, so to speak, well-known, promoted from good songs. but if it’s still a feast, then no, no, and they sing frost, frost, it’s still somehow a pop song, she doesn’t survive the feast much. anyway, so to speak, folk pops up. and what

as for the red kalina, she was popular, then this song is why it jumped out of you right away. and when you read it, when we met shukshin, when we were going to the shooting, he ran to our car, uh, where i went to shoot , also to our picture, the general operators, and he had a svs car with the second director, and he ran away into our fire, but with a bottle of wine, and the train has already started, and he is out of his jacket. uh, the toothbrush fell out . well, the bottle was preserved, you know? they put the bottle, they said, the guys will drink now and let's let's start with songs, and he himself sang some songs to himself, the guys sat and drank. i'm in a corner. uh, uh, this bed uh. the compartment where he sat down was silent, and then he

says, why are you silent? here we were then we met earlier at the institute, when he was , uh, secretary, komsomol organization of the production department, and i was not a komsomol member and shukshina called me to prescribe me, well, about the sand. why because, uh hmm, the course went to virgin lands, and kostya and i, a skinny, now well-known director on television, didn’t even take us, because we are not komsomol members, they never went to the komsomol meeting at all. here it is . we met him on the train, and he says that something has sat down in a corner. what is the hottest song right now ? and i said uttered one word, two words. you can drink karina red. and i, in general, somehow used to sing like that, yes. before, everything, in my opinion, or at all institutes, and we have everyone on the course, or i am for kalin. yes, and apparently, this song pierced him like that.

uh, what does it mean, well, somehow she sunk into him, and when we arrived in sudak, they began to shoot there too there were some companies. well, as after filming , he always asked, but our artist is not here. here is the one sung to kalina red. and here i was called there to mr. red, here she is kalina red , and she was just in your us in general a binder, yes, uh, our binder. this is red kalina, so it is actually interesting, so i looked before coming here. here are famous actors and related to uh, cinema, yes, uh, who grew up born in altai yes, that's why they are all like that, why are they like that traditional? why do they sing like this zolotukhin niche evdokimov buldakov. it's just that shukshin is such a national pillar of some kind and all singing and

all musical. why are they offended by altai? but just, uh, in fact, if you poke around like this in different ways, places of our motherland will always be found here, and you know there. how many people came from there to moscow and st. petersburg and very bright personalities. i want to say that the earth is rich with us and rich in people with rich talents, but it is certainly undeniable that he was a very special person. mm, and because not every picture should tell you not all writers overcome time, not every picture, but overcomes, at least already. uh, so many years in order to remain here until now such a sought-after picture of the seventy- fourth year. yes, after all, in the same place it’s not about the party, it’s not about the purpose, it’s a completely different content, after all. please note i'm a party. no, she probably

wouldn't have lived that long. i want to sincerely thank you all today for remembering together the seventy-fourth year and the film kalina krasnaya is special, here is just a low gratitude to nikolaevna who appeared with us with such interesting details, but about this time about filming, and vasily makarvich. and, of course, it would be strange to complete this program without hearing the song red kalina, especially since it is such a red thread that runs through your entire life. we will hear her today and remember her together with natalya gerasimoy, and we say goodbye.

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