in moscow, they often say at the official level that we will take the toughest measures, but we will not shoot ourselves in the foot. i agree with this. i myself am not an official, i have repeatedly said, including on this program, because you don’t have to do things that will cost you more, and you don’t have to rumble and create chatter. if you're not ready to act, but that's what starts me. uh, dimitri is getting more and more worried about people. more and more thinking that if you worry too much about how shoot yourself in the foot, you will miss the moment when you get hit in the head. and this worries me very , very much, and it seems to me that russia, and, but time was not lost in the sense that the army really strengthened, if

you want the spirit and the will to resist, and it seems to me that the moment is coming when russia will have to make some critical decisions, sir, that this may be the second time since the start of this special military operation itself. because lose the patience of the parties it happens at the public level, it is not without reason that on our tv channels there is such a fairly free , sweeping discussion about whether nuclear weapons are not applicable to us. as soon as we have it. this is our advantage over the enemy. on the other hand, it is clear that these unrestrained boundless deliveries of western weapons, which actually allow ukraine to hold on and

resist, they are becoming more and more large-scale and dangerous, and russia, of course, internally occurs at the expense of the lives of russian people, of course. uh, uh, the statement of the ministers of defense of great britain regarding the geneva conventions and the terms of everything else somehow magically ignores the fact that shelling of residential areas of large cities has intensified many times in recent months. in the donbass, where there is no doubt, there is no doubt that the shooting is not carried out at military targets, but you have no doubt about the urban agglomeration. you know very well what is happening on the fronts. and you have no doubt that he is deliberately shooting at civilian targets. surely, because because first of all, we, of course, have already

encountered what targets to attack. in this case, no one hides this, they agree with those experts, experts and even representatives of the military departments of nato countries, which, for example, have entire orbital satellite constellations and provide whole guidance for highmarxes and other western -made equipment. and as a matter of fact, they know where these haims are shooting. there is no doubt about it, but it does not advertise, but in no way reflect and do not give as material on their own media. they just ignore it at the same time in the spirit. let's say all these 8 years. sorry konstantin, they may not know about it. they may not be able to about it. i don't know, they can't know about it. of course, they know about this, and this, of course, causes more and more indignation in russia and

demands from society to stop. this e beating of the civilian population is not about hostilities directly between the armed by people we are talking about attempts to shoot at populated cities in squares. i uh want to say that this is a very dangerous provocative line. at the same time, i remain in full agreement with president putin, who just said that we are not going to brandish a nuclear bomb around the world like a razor. it's him. it seems to me that in this way the ardor has cooled down, including in our country, those who love to talk about this topic, of course, the blow, for example, to ukraine with atomic weapons. it would be a blow. by ourselves, not only by virtue of our geographic proximity unlike the united states and hiroshima and nagasaki, we are not separated from each other by the pacific ocean, but also due to the fact that we came to ukraine with our goals,

declaring that russians are ukrainians. it was in an article by vladimir putin that this is one people. we can not by our own people. even if adhering to during these hostilities. some of them hold very different points of view. nastya such inhumane. devastating blows, especially since ukraine, as you know, does not is a nuclear power, but there is a limit to everything, and these endless conversations are probing, but will, say, an attack on crimea be conditions for the use of nuclear weapons by russia. will, for example, another attack on some military airfields, where our strategic bombers are stationed, be a pretext for the use of nuclear weapons? will there finally be a new ukrainian weapon when it appears there or not? this means that in fact, attack moscow petersburg and almost vladivostok, as the secretary of the national security council and defense, mr. danilov that is, this is very

dangerous, and that's why i say that we are coming to some kind of such a crescendo in this story now. and what could happen next, and what could happen next , for example, is that russia will have to again, how, at the beginning of this special military operation , to use the territory of allied belarus in order, for example, to attack from the flank. this is me in this case, looking at the map, having no absolutely confirmed information and not having our general general there either. headquarters. i'm just saying what is simply obvious from the point of view. here are maps of military operations, maybe , uh, strikes on those objects in ukraine that are still there. well, they were on the sidelines of the missile strikes. these are the very objects of government infrastructure in the capital, and so on, the energy system of ukraine has suffered, but these are not all systems in ukraine that help it wage a communications war, for example, still

remain. in general, by and large, not affected precisely on these bridges on these roads these new e, means of war against ukraine are being transported along these railroad tracks, and that’s all, it can be very dangerous, because the west is starting to formulate, as we heard from the lips of the minister of defense, some of their own. like you said red lines. they draw them for themselves now, i ask dmitry's permission. i have already spoken too long for the last time. and i really want to answer this. i have seen your uh manly behavior on other television programs and seen your reaction to irresponsible statements about let's say strategic nuclear weapons. and if not in washington, then in other european capitals that are part of nato, i completely agree with you here. and very often the people who say this, they do not know what they are saying, and in fact,

such extreme statements of 10% that they also want to scare so much, but in general they often hide behind it. i'm afraid. uh-huh really reluctance to do something, what can really be done? so here it is from my point of view. this is me throwing a challenge to both of you from my point of view. there is the difference between strategic tactical nuclear weapons is that if you strike the united states with strategic strikes, then it is very, very difficult to draw the line between a strike on washington and a strike on a military base. but if you are talking about tactical nuclear charges much less and power, that it is hiroshima nagasaki you are a completely different story, and these are the very centers of communication, and the very electrical nodes that are, in

general, quite easy to restore. after they have been fired by conventional rockets, if they became the target of nuclear strikes, even very low-yield ones will be much more difficult to restore. i, uh, am not a military specialist, and i don’t speak on behalf of anything. elsewhere, but i want the russian president to be understood correctly as i understand him, and i understood him. eh, dmitry konstantin as a person who categorically refuses to deny nuclear weapons? which categorically does not want to give ammunition for russia's opponents who want to blame. uh, russia is in some kind of nuclear blackmail, but he is both clear and clear from my point of view,

he says we have these weapons. we don't have it by chance. we created it at great cost. we are modernizing it and keep in mind that we have this arsenal. and if you put us in a stalemate, keep in mind that we have this arsenal no more and no less, and i do not see the need for russia to tell its adversary in advance that under no circumstances. and russia here is some kind of weapon, but it will not accept an object. excuse me and the last thing i understand, fraternal feelings towards the people of ukraine, not everyone in ukraine shares these fraternal feelings, that you as you know, i lived 50 years in washington and no one is allah's civil war. it was the most destructive war ever. in the history of america,

600,000 more people died than in the first and second world wars. i say 600,000 for what? in addition, on the one hand, to go for such a bloody option for a normal person for a very long time not want to, and i accept the extreme delicacy of this topic, but i also want to say. what, the longer the warriors go on? the greater the losses, the greater the risks, and this, it seems to me, is also taken into account in moscow by the russian top leadership. at least that's my impression. well, here's my answer to that. the first consideration concerns this notorious line between tactical and strategic nuclear weapons. specialists in the soviet union once came to the conclusion that this conclusion is widely known, which is generally limited nuclear war, actually. no, it won't happen as

soon as we start it. you don't know whether it will be limited or whether it will be full-scale. and this applies to tactical or strategic issues. i want to believe this category of faith is that in our country there are enough non-nuclear non -conventional weapons capabilities in order to actually cause irreparable damage to ukraine's ability to resist and deliver tangible strikes on our territory in full , these means are not used about this all the time we are talking about, but this does not mean that we must necessarily pass. this line, again, when you started talking, when you agreed , for a second, this doesn’t occur to me in a second, a second. i want to say that when you say that nuclear weapons are, in principle, impossible. to teach its use, of course, and our military nuclear doctrine does not exclude the use of nuclear weapons , the president also spoke about this in response to a nuclear

attack or cases or its equivalent, or in the event, if at all, as you right now said matter of existence, russia is under threat. i personally believe that, despite all the difficulties, the problems that exist during this war are military operations. we cannot now come to a conclusion. right now, at the moment, that the existence of russia in its entirety. here arose the threat of a military defeat , the collapse of the collapse of the state, and everything else did not come to this. and i hope it never does. so this is like the advancement of the ukrainian armies. there, in the crimea or in moscow, but today present day. in any case, it is not considered as a real option. that's what will happen if this, god forbid, happens here, i do not presume to judge. but what is necessary at the moment, of course, is to achieve victory by other means, without resorting to this threshold of crossing this threshold. this is for sure, and i, for example, as

an option, as one of the possible options, said that it could be, just like at the beginning of this special military operation from the territory of belarus, it is quite possible, or let's say something else or let's say use other types of weapons that do not carry such a sinister character, which is completely obvious to the whole world, which is carried by any nuclear weapon, tactical or strategic. well, it seems to me, firstly, that there is speculation in the west about the possibility of russia using tactical nuclear weapons. this is such an information and political provocation. nothing more than a provocation aimed, firstly, at demonizing the image of russia in the third world countries china india and other countries of the world majority. secondly, this is for today the russian population the fact that supposedly we can in the foreseeable future so lose and lose such territories that could push us to use. e tactical nuclear weapons are such a threat. no, in

principle, and we see that the situation on the fronts has not only stabilized. russia is advancing along the entire front line, for example, in a. donetsk a and lugansk regions, but dmitry scares me differently. but it scares me, but the threat is not vertical escalation, but horizontal escalation, namely a direct military clash between russia and nato, because russia was extremely clear about the red line regarding the supply of long-range weapons. and it was stated not in a streamlined form, but quite concretely on so many levels. we can just bring up a selection of relevant ones. statement at the highest political military and diplomatic level and now we are seeing attempts from the west to cross this red line. you are absolutely right when you say that in this situation russia really turns out to be a

very difficult position, because and if russia will not respond to the crossing of this red line, then russia will discredit itself, they will no longer believe in it, and when russia talks about red lines. but here's what really worries me, russia, including this special operation, but confirmed that there is a red line, and when ben volley and the british secretary of defense admit the possibility of providing ukraine with long-range missiles. i’m already even bracketing the participation of the west, including not only hidden passive, but also active participation. west in the strikes that were inflicted deep into russian territory on military airfields, but because a, for example, the head of the russian delegation at the talks in vienna on security issues and arms control, konstantin gavrilov, said that nato countries and the

united states participated in the planning in preparation and in the implementation of these strikes. this is already a very serious crossing of the red line. but if long-range missiles are provided, then russia will simply be forced to respond in such a way. way. how i think, ah, we will really be brought to the brink of a third world war. i do not think that russia. more precisely, i am 100% sure that russia will not, and russia will respond by using e-nuclear weapons on the territory of ukraine by creating a direct military threat to the nato countries themselves, which are participants in this and the actual side of it. conflict know dmitry i'm uh in a difficult position. because i start saying things that i really don't want to say in my life. and uh there are non-polar themes and

when you raise these topics, there is always a great danger that people will hear it in their own way and not hear what you are talking about the need to strengthen, deterrence, showing real russian capabilities and readiness to defend itself and an attempt to drag russia into some kind of terrible adventure. i really hope that uh in washington in london in brussels what, they will understand? eh, very clear. that russia is not looking for nuclear options for the whole of russia is ready to defend itself? well that's what i'll tell you at the end in 1984 new uh dick uh, the politburo, which was new in the sense that it was

just starting to conduct a secret meeting from the secretariat of the central committee and called mikhail sergeevich gorbachev, the main leader was still chernenko was clear. what he came to, and he met with margaret is a very famous episode, which was repeatedly described at the end of their conversation. uh, gorbachev gave her a map. and he showed the possible routes of russian nuclear strikes and said that we should end this. as i understand it, this made a strong impression on saturation in terms of that gorbachev is really a man to deal with. and well, as it were, the impression that , uh, russia has created a very serious danger for england, which only goes on could not be reckoned

with over the years. after the cold war, they got used to the idea that the russian nuclear arsenal could be used under some conditions, got out of the habit of this idea. and they decided to put russian capabilities in the nuclear field out of the brackets, because it’s more convenient to deal with russia, because otherwise, without this arsenal , in terms of the balance of power, the collective west has big advantages, so i sincerely believed that if you want to avoid a third world war on conditions acceptable to russia, worthy conditions. in general, it makes sense to do what the americans sometimes do to seriously warn and specifically what the enemy can run into. if

some things are done, i mean not to do it in a boorish way. i mean, not some public ultimatums that are very hard to accept. i mean a specific serious conversation. i think we're close to this truth, i i think that we should take this moment very seriously in order to ensure that these nuclear options remain theoretical options . dmitry completely agrees with you. moreover, the united states has a platform for such negotiations. recently, the heads of our intelligence agencies. we met in turkey and vladimir putin, last week , stressed in no uncertain terms that the goal of russian nuclear deterrence is the goal of russian nuclear weapons policy. it is deterrence preventing the expansion of the conflict and the object of this deterrence is

precisely united deterrence includes the understanding that if this deterrence is ignored, then this can have very real consequences. well , as a matter of fact, the english politician, the former prime minister, for example, who is so inglorious. she worked in this post for a very short time, and she is even in the process of nominating her candidacy. i'm answering the question directly. it seemed that it was the duty of the prime minister to press the nuclear button if necessary. about this great britain since you dmitry returned to history. i want to remind you that much earlier, during the suez crisis, khrushchev, as you know, issued his memorandum, as a result of which this soviet crisis was quickly reduced to zero speech. it was about the fact that the soviet union then explained to england that it was an island and because of this, it is very vulnerable to our missiles, although missiles were not less and by and large then. i think no sergeyevich

khrushchev bluffed, but this bluff turned out to be very at any rate, the martinder tried to be effective in his post, no longer, not much longer than the recent prime minister of great britain after it became known. so it seems to me that we naturally do not participate in any, uh, closed negotiations and discussions. we can assume that this kind of warning is being issued . as you rightly said, not necessarily publicly, but publicly, we really are committed to preventing a pre-nuclear war. but it also means for us the need to achieve victory by other means, as quickly as possible , and i believe that we are able to do this, of course. to do this, a lot will have to be reorganized inside the country both inside the country and in the war zone in how our armed forces work. it becomes obvious that it needs to be done and it is being done. but that's in my opinion. all taken together and suggests that people who believe that only a nuclear strike is in a

position to win. they just don't trust our ability to win any other way. we have a theme for one more interesting thing, but we have to finish this conversation already konstantin fedorovich dmitry thank you very much in conclusion. let me just say that deterrence is based on impact and the united states must understand. it seems to me that the object of take in this case will be they. thank you very much for this very interesting conversation. thanks

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of the championship is in the application. on air, the big game in kosovo is experiencing the biggest, sharpest escalation since the 1999 war . and uh, it's happening less than uh, a week after the european union summit, western the balkans who took place in tyranny. there was, among other things, the so-called prime minister. e, kosovo albert kurti, and the president of serbia, aleksandar vučić, who, just on the basis of the western balkans themselves, said that serbia is the only country that has not imposed sanctions against russia, does anyone like this fact or not? and now, in less than a week, we are seeing the most serious aggravation, according to russian ambassador to serbia alexander bozen. kharchenko the situation

is on the verge. e wars on the verge of e transition to bloodshed. what happened in the first place, uh, this weekend the albanian authorities entered? only hundreds of paramilitary police special forces in armored vehicles in the serbian e regions of kosovo are mainly e, northern, and the country’s territories were blocked, including the largest serbian city in kosovo and kosovo after a former policeman serp serva was detained by albanians at one of the checkpoints began to build barricades in response to pristina, stated that she demanded to remove these barricades, otherwise they would be storm. and this is actually a war. serbia, in turn, pulled together the military formation of the kosovo border. and today the president is vučić. e, announced that on december 15 he would send a request to the leadership of the nato contingent in kosovo

, keyfor, to allow serbia to deploy its units in the serbian regions. uh, kosovo in accordance with the resolution of the owl. that un security number 1244, but the response from nato will obviously be negative today, the head of the german foreign ministry said this, and lena berkova here listen to her statement. kosovo has eased tensions by postponing local elections, recent rhetoric from serbia has made the reverse proposal to send serbian forces to kosovo completely unacceptable, as have the latest attacks on the euflix mission, kosovo all my support is for the eu-sponsored dialogue on burbock, obviously. e, translates shifts all responsibility for this aggravation to serbia and actually alexander vuychich himself admits that this conflict is not only and not so much, but between, uh, kosovo albanians and kosovo serbs. how much

between serbia and the west and listen. here is his statement on this subject, which he made after yesterday's meeting of the security council. therefore, i will eat. this is similar to an attempt to solve the serbian problem in the north, kosovo or spirits, in which not only the alpencorte and the pristina authorities participate, but also good parts of the international community who pretend not to see what is happening. we have an issue with our american partners. tell us what agreement does the wall adhere to and tell us at least one such their document does not exist, only we can do whatever and how much we want. well, there is one more, and there is one more nuance, but the measurement of this problem on december 15 is exactly when vucic is going to turn to keyford management. in kosovo, the nato contingent, according to the same aleksandar vučić, the kosovo authorities want to apply for and

join the european union and obtain the status of a candidate for joining the european union, which contradicts the so-called washington agreement in accordance with which strive to join international organizations. so we see a tangle of contradictions, as usual, this happens in the balkans, but i see at least two levels in this tangle. and the first level is an attempt to solve the problem of the serbs inside, kosovo stated this. uh, actually alexander vučić, but the second one. it seems to me that a more important level is an attempt to solve the problem of serbia within europe with the help of this aggravation, namely, to force serbia to lose the remnants of its re- sovereignty claims to territorial integrity and remnants independence of its foreign policy. including relations with russia, ekaterina gennadievna agrees with this production as a whole, of course,

dmitry you definitely agree, but the right in the first place. e in regards to, a, the fact that the west, a, really wanted, and in the shortest possible time and the geopolitically unique situation that has developed in many respects a in the motional space, but to solve the kosovo issue, but in such a way that a is crowned with a break, or deep disappointment of russian serbs in russian serbian relations, and in russia and, respectively, but minimizing russia's influence in southeastern europe and the balkans as a whole. and it seems to me that it is very important to note that the west would like to do this, but as beautifully as possible. here is what the world, both western and non-western, knows about russian serbian relations, and by and large. he knows that the serbs are terrible russophiles, and who have repeatedly in their history. uh supported russia and in any case never

opposed it. and us yes, and it is also well known that a russia for a serbian e love e, repeatedly paid a high price and only once in your history in the nineties, and when it was extremely weak explored the fairway of the western course, and gave the serbs to be torn to pieces, and certainly in such a paradigm today's russia with e status, and a global power of a global partner, but it cannot allow the serbs to be, but offended if it allows it, otherwise it immediately raises a number of questions. namely, that is why the provocations that we observe recent weeks, and they are not just blatant on the part of the albanians, but they look even theatrical they look grotesque. yes, and it is this paradigm of such a formulation of the issue of russian serbian relations, and the role of russia is well understood,

belgrade and we understand it very well, and they understand it, uh, part of uh, not the western world, and this certainly creates the basis for unfolding. i have some counters in this direction. well, you quite rightly noted that russia can not remain without participation at the level of rhetoric today both maria zakharova, the press secretary of the ministry of foreign affairs and the press secretary of the president of russia, dmitry peskov , stated that russia is very concerned about the current situation. and peskov, in particular, said that russia stands for unconditional and absolute observance of rights? and in a, kosovo, but now, if today russia has the tools to, in addition to political policy, diplomatic protection. here is how to help serbia and influence the situation. because if we talk, for example, about military assistance, then not by sea, not by bridge. we are

unfortunately, we cannot deliver anything now by the serb. and besides, it’s clear that russia ’s main priority right now, the existential priority is to succeed in ukraine . well, here is what russia can do in this situation. and oddly enough, but today it’s a rather interesting resource, and it is politics that gives diplomatic struggle, and no matter how traditional it may sound, and our constant he is a member of the security council, but we must pay tribute to the grays. over the past 10 years, they have significantly strengthened diplomatically, and they have entered into special relations with china. china, after all, it is belgrade that perceives their relations as a key player in southeastern europe, but they are extremely intensified. yes, and the second belgrade came out, and in many ways, but on those

channels of cooperation that socialist yugoslavia had with the countries of asia and africa, and over the past few years it has carried out, but a large number well, dumb. reviews a-a recognition of the independence of kosovo just here from the countries of asia and africa a and. uh, of course, the russian stake on not the western world, but it allows through diplomatic channels, a first of all, to raise the question of what is actually happening with the peacekeeping mission in kosovo and here is the most successful, and actually berberg’s statements. yes. eh, that's not funny. and why because, but violence in the region and not the ability of a peacekeeping mission. but no, but to serve the number, but really fulfill the tasks that are set by the resolution of the sbu, they are on a person, belgrade, will ask now, but the opportunity, but to place their contingent, and in the north of the kosovo

mitokha, but it is guaranteed to practically succeed, but a refusal to do so, and further this issue can be promoted, but at the level of the united nations. in question, but the very effectiveness of the mission. ah, a necessity somehow. and this is to reform, including, and this is most likely not a completely hopeless cause, not only among, but not western countries, and not so much and not only, for example, in the general assembly, but including in the un security council yes, with taking into account serbian chinese relations. and it’s obvious that the chinese will take a tougher stance, and the serbs have certain resources, and through their internal channels of influence on the republicans in states a, there are other, uh, segments of the serbian-french tradition there. in general, too, quite benevolent historical pals. that is, in principle, a competent game, but it can allow, but in a slightly different way,

to raise the question of what is happening in the region. and yes, this is fundamentally not the current situation will change. and this is fundamentally not no, unfortunately, and not the enviable fate of enclave serbs, because when we talk about kosovo mitohi, we always talk about the north of the region, and which is where most of the serbs live compactly. yes, but most often, but we forget that a considerable part of the serbs. e, he lives, in, e, enclaves, and in the south there are oblique metochs, but in fact being squeezed, and between the albanian villages, and here is that everyday nationalism, but ethnic a hostility, which is quite consciously, and in recent years they have been released from it is very easy to release the bottle from the bottle. and shove it back already. unfortunately, you cannot, therefore, and not everything can be solved here, and the crushing success of a is not guaranteed there, but nevertheless, there are

significantly more opportunities than it seems at first glance. it seems to me that we are seeing another such, but an eloquent example of a world order based on rules in action. because the resolution of the un security council is the source of international law, the president. vučić appeals to this source of international law. i have in mind resolution 1244 and receives a thrashing from anna lena berbakh, that this is unacceptable, and here is and also maria zakharova, uh, today. i think it's been fairly described. here is the current escalation. and what about the failure of peacekeeping, on the part of the european union, and this is ivan alekseevich it seems to me very important for us also in the aspect that the european union traditionally presents. here is their peacekeeping efforts in the balkans as a model for other regions. look how european integration is like a magic wand. this means it allows conflicts, and on the balkan peninsula and therefore

draw closer to the european union, integrate with the european union, and you will get the benefit of all your conflicts will resolve themselves, including the transnistrian conflict for the post-soviet space, and the armenian-azerbaijani conflict, and so on. yes, and the european union, uh, claims to play a central role in the settlement precisely here, uh, under this sauce, that we will provide you with european integration, which in turn will resolve all conflicts. and now we see that it is not works. here. what do you think, uh, this will be some kind of lesson, some kind of signal for the elites in the post-soviet space. e, dmitry vyacheslavovich i think that the leadership and the public, uh, in almost all countries of eurasia, uh, including the post-soviet states, adequately perceive the modern world situation, practically nowhere, there are some

illusions and misconceptions, it’s another matter that er style of how it manifests itself. eh, he's different. it depends on so many current uh current circumstances, but uh, it seems to me that no one is talking about what is not mistaken, the only question is that some have already believed that everything is a and the western e concentration camp for the world ended in the form. here is his hegemony, and others still doubt and are afraid. what, you never know, the west will suddenly get some kind of whip and all, uh, will whip everyone, and it seems to me that this is the balkan situation. she is very visual indeed, because ah. it seems to me, uh, quite rightly it has been said that politics is a diplomatic means now and the politics of

democracy-politics is a diplomatic dimension. it very important, because, of course, power. it can be applied, but, in principle, it is now impossible to take. and uh, it's just strength to solve this situation. and as far as the same nato and westerners interfere in all this, most likely, they will not interfere much. let's not forget that it's like a zapa. he has been using force for the last 30 years. at first they declared someone an outcast, mocked him in every possible way. uh, they drove him into international isolation organized. this is world public opinion that everyone is actually against uh, against him, and only then, like a hunted animal, someone was finished off in a different way. they do not know how to say now against the backdrop of what is happening in the world that the serbs are wrong in some way, that uh. here

they are doing injustice, but it is almost impossible to convey to the international to the international community. but, uh, if the west decides to present the situation that the serbs are doing injustice and doing something completely wrong, and this is impossible to justify any harsh military actions against serbia. uh-huh do, ah without getting over someone first to go out of their way to declare him a pariah, and so on, and only after that they use force, therefore an active policy of diplomatic maneuvering of serbia itself and russia's support of china and even some is possible. uh, if not support, but there are fluctuations in european uh governments. this is already creating conditions that,

well, they won’t just let the serbs be crushed at the current stage . it seems to me that this is a very important signal that neither russia nor china will give anyone in the world to the west just to turn an outcast into outcasts over someone mock like it was with the serbs, like it was with iran for a long time and so on and so forth. all this is history. uh, this story is over, so it seems to me that the serbs in the political arena of diplomacy can behave quite confidently, which they uh do, but of course, the risk that uh the west will uh play unfairly. and maybe, including playing dishonestly on the force field. and this triskona it certainly exists. well, we've already agreed. actually, that the west is now twisting serbia's hands are actually raping serbia. yes wooing from

her, firstly the actual recognition of the independence of kosovo a. secondly, the rejection of special relations with russia yes, and joining the european sanctions policy, and in relation to russia, this also raises not only political, but also economic issues for russia. after all, i say aleksandrovich russia has rather significant economic, including energy, interests associated with serbia, and in particular with the balkan peninsula as a whole. yes, it is, in fact, serbia played one of the key roles in our original project. uh south stream. yes, today, in fact, uh, it receives gas from the turkish stream as part of the balkan stream, which goes through bulgaria to serbia, in fact. the continuation of the same turkish flow, which was only with other mediators and on its structure, of course, serbia plays a key role for us. eh, but we also play a very important role for serbia in the region, after all, we account for approximately 10%, if i'm not mistaken, of serbian imports and 5%

of serbian exports, and serbia has remained, in fact, the only one of the few sane countries in europe that are not yet joining the sanctions, but serbia, if you look at the map, has quite serious problems, given that, for example, it does not have access to the sea. although it is not officially classified according to the un, the landlog classification is country music. this is that countries that do not have access to the sea, but it is by no means surrounded by the most friendly towards it. uh, partners, let's say, therefore, economically, it is very dependent on such relations as relations with russia, well, plus russia provides a market for a lot of serbian goods that cannot, for example, go to european markets. well, uh, the famous situation with the fact that we have polish apples in russia. in fact, polish apples have long since replaced serbian apples on our russian market, and they are unlikely to go to the european union, given the very strict environmental requirements that exist there, er, on this market, so, of course, absolutely. and for

us, this is an obvious strategic priority in region, but for serbia, russia, one of the key partners, is another matter that it is now more and more difficult to put aside this principled line. well , the current aggravation also coincided with angela merkel's recent revelations about the fact that, uh, the west itself was not going to force ukraine to comply with the minsk agreements. as merkel said, it was necessary just to buy time in order to pump up weapons to ukraine, we will ensure its military effort, it must be said that this is the revelation of angela merkel on alexander vučić made a very big impression. here, listen to what he had to say about it. this statement by merkel radically changes the situation in every sense, primarily in the political sense, and for me it is a clear signal to whom one cannot trust, here the question arises of how long we can stand so small if they dared to play like that with someone who is much more powerful to deceive us and to lie to

the russian federation in order to use the time to arm itself and prepare a big defeat for russia ekaterina well it is quite obvious that teaching understands that the west cannot be trusted. and so. uh, this statement by merkel is another confirmation for him. yes, plus he himself spoke about , name me at least one agreement that the united states came to fill, but now, does he have the freedom to maneuver, can he do something in this situation? or is he pressed against the wall and is actually in a hopeless situation? how is it supposed to be? and so, ah, and not so at the same time. eh, on the one hand. here is globally better, but there are five scenes. by which you can act, yes, but all these scenarios are speculative. let's let's list briefly, but the first scenario, and this is to introduce anti-russian sanctions, as they demanded of him, a will not change anything, but on the issue of a about the recognition of kosoy, since, but quite openly since the

summer, they replaced the wording normalization of relations with the wording, but mutual recognition, a b first. well, of course, which means recognition, and the independence of outer space from belgrade, well, and the second option is to cancel european integration, guys. we do not cooperate with you in any format. and the result the same because it completely unties the hands of the west already then to do, and to sanction, but in serbia in such a way as they please? and with yes, the third scenario, and to a large extent, the situation that is developing today in the region is connected with the arrival, and in you, the prime minister in the nineteenth, and then in the twentieth year, albina kurte, and in general an ultranationalist politician who built his career on the barricades, and there are no negotiations on slogans. uh, there are no concessions with belgrade, and with a serb a and, but one of the scenarios, but it was not always convenient in the

kurt, but for the west, a one of the scenarios is to shift the course, and thus raise the issue again, but about creating a community of serbian municipalities. here, it’s just a direct question of trust, because in 10 years the serbian society of serbian municipalities was not created, not only because, but the kosovars did not want this, but, but this is not very softly wanted by brussels or washington, and often openly declaring that they do not want a second serbian republic, but only on the territory of kosovo metohija, and any effective security guarantee for the serbs is secured autonomy in the province yes, therefore, it turns out that it seems like this is also a very dubious option, and the two remaining options, and which one of which is equal to the second scenario, is to conduct military operation, but on the entry of the serbian army into the territory of kosovo mitokha. they are proactive. yes, in this case,

the entire information resource in which the west has in order to make the serbs outcasts and finally, the last fifth scenario. and this is to watch how the serbian population of the region will be destroyed silently, yes, well, and then this is the end of a political career, and teach careers and by and large , today the mood of serbian society is such that they definitely do not tolerate this, therefore, on the one hand , like there is a big set. how a can act, but on the other hand, we understand that a these provocations, which are twisted in a spiral, will come sooner or later. of course, they will lead to the fact that belgrade will somehow be forced reply. and i think that in fact alexander luch understands this from the very beginning, and because to a large extent the success of this all depends on the results. and how we, a, stand up and a get out of that hybrid war that

is deployed against us by forces. ah, ukrainian yes, ah, respectively yes, well, through the instrument of ukraine, respectively, here his task from the very beginning was internal. i think fine, as if conscious. a as long as possible to drag out time, therefore, now, and he will do the maximum in order to a-a situation according to to the maximum, maybe even causing himself, rather dislike, and the aggression of his own people and misunderstanding, but he will be as long as he can, and keep it in the politics of the diplomatic space, while trying to get away from a direct a? collisions, in fact, vučiće said that he would adhere to the policy of peace as much as possible, and the west once again showed its true colors. yes, because this aggravation is the result, and

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there is a big game on the air, and today in brussels a meeting of the council of the european union at the level of foreign ministers was held, at which they failed to agree on the ninth package of anti-russian sanctions, and last week the proposals were made by the european commission and today the issue was again transferred to the coripepper level . that is, it is on the level, and permanent representatives, e countries of the european union c. e. council of the eu and will be considered there today and tomorrow the reason, not the ability to agree. today. this is what different countries demand for themselves different exceptions, exemptions, indulgences, defending their national ones. ah, interests. here in particular, as he writes, dzyudovicha-side. he to belgium seeks the easing of restrictions in the mining industry.