he was a very tough, very demanding person. at first, the teacher had a very difficult time. they said the language is stated. the first post-war year. guys, very complex, many lost their fathers in the war and learning the german language was just nonsense for them, but soon the situation changed.

what do you know? what exactly is the language of the enemy, one must know that sometimes? one good scout who knows the language of the enemy means more than the body of the army, and he also referred to the people of yuryevich schmidt yes, our famous polar explorer. yes, and this was one of the main arguments of our the boys resigned themselves to their fate. perhaps that is why, having become an illegal immigrant, alexei kozlov will work for many years under the name of otto schmidt. when a simple vologda boy

came to enter moscow at mgimo, the teachers in the selection committee were quite surprised. how do you brilliant ones know the german exam in german decided everything, because kozlov graduated from school with a silver medal, he had to pass only one foreign language. kozlov arrived in moscow with a wooden chest, the family didn’t have money for a suitcase, and to apply straight from the station to the institute accept documents. come to moscow. i don’t know where this institute is located, i go up to the

first policeman at the station with a pzh. don’t tell me the way to it. he says, i don't know, i didn't study there. here you go, the information desk is located here and here is the address in russia. i went to the admissions office, and there the young moscow ticks began to scoff. above him, you need, like, to the timiryazev agricultural academy. and you came to diplomatic universities put here. well, he compared them to him. many of these guys, of course, were not accepted in the hostel. he shared room, with three germans from the gdr, they came to study as diplomats. e fellow students alexei mikhailovich who lived with him in the same room became ambassadors to western countries. nahlyosha was no worse. they, too, could become an ambassador. that 's right. i mean, he was getting ready. uh, where was the math work? at the institute, he also learned

danish for undergraduate practice, the student was sent to copenhagen to the consular department. it was his first trip abroad. it was going great now, a very good career was being prepared, but as always, it happens with us suddenly the motherland called him. yes to protect her safety in 1959, the graduate of gimmo paid attention. the first department of the kgb to invite in foreign intelligence. here i understood that in front of me a grandiose

figure is unique and it is pointless to imitate him, everyone in moscow knew him, this is a genius. and i look at such a drunken face, he is not a genius at all. i say, he's just drunk and god punished me, and i became his wife. and how much earlier he behaved loosely, as it is not even very beautiful. let's just say so with their relationship. they were among themselves. seems absolutely perfect. they lived 50 years. they did not part for a minute, and when my mother disappeared from the pain of vision. i heard only and where is tonya's barn, which i turned into a workshop, let's say. my masks are a cast, literally. i took off the mask and hanged it, he didn’t leave, because anyway he will live in the picture in his own, i like it that he is somehow like that. and fly away, the only one of

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the country’s leadership needed information from abroad and the only way to get such information. it was penetration abroad on illegal grounds and work. there, under the guise of citizens of any countries except the soviet union, this is where the name illegal intelligence came from. kozlov began intensive preparations for going abroad. it usually goes like this. we have 5 years. i had it for exactly 3 years. quickly and in 1962, the first task to get a diploma of draftsmen in denmark, training at the school of technical assistants in denmark involved several years, however, kozlov mastered the profile course in just 3 months. then

six months spent infusion. i had to feel like a foreigner. he had a legend that he was a german west germany frg how come? so they get it and some german called from ryazan. well, here the main thing, of course, is the creation. human psychology they talk about life. that's how the kids run around there. what are they doing, what are their gestures? what kind of games are each gallery counting rhymes? well , how can you be a russian person? if you do not know, a month has passed, the history of the country, religion, all this is studied in detail. it was not he who

said that he was even taught to put glasses on the case is correct, because that's not how we put it. you know, in algiers, where he got a job in the urban planning bureau. he began to acquire reliable sources, as soon as he gained independence from france he got a job as a draftsman, and in a swiss bureau and, in general, he got access to important information there. his wife tatyana came to him there, they got married in moscow just before the business trip to the west. i also met, while preparing in moscow, with one girl. she was a student at the moscow energy institute when i returned.

tatyana borisovna also studied and received an intelligence education, exactly as an illegal immigrant they worked together, that is, she, uh, carried out the functions of communication with the center, as a cryptographer, as a parodist from algeria, they moved together to germany already, as a couple tatyana borisovna arrived, and in a lie. uh, well, the status of the official wife of alexei mikhailovich by soviet law. and in order to legalize the frg, they married for the second time already according to the laws of the host country. when they arrived, uh, there were no technical vacancies in germany, but for work i had to get settled, i went to work, than working at dry cleaning and laundry. we needed people soon born. firstborn son. misha

is the day when my wife started having contractions, she had to give birth in germany for the first time in a german way, but give birth to a child. everything could be you remember 17 moments of the spring of december 1965. and the schmidt spouses received real german passports, two children are respectable people. you know, this already provides a very good cover, when a whole family with a child walked with him out into the forest, everything was already we saw that this is a full-fledged family, after some time kozlov, he became sick and became the general director, dry cleaners went from a black worker to the head of a powerful company

made him his own to present a sales representative a very good cover. oh, his hands were untied. signed all kinds of contracts. he had very wide connections. obviously, he thinks all the time that when they leave, the center of the company opens, which they should manage, and so on and so forth, this is the fate of every illegal in his own hands and a really conscientious and working environment. the son went to kindergarten, the daughter went to the nursery with her parents. the children spoke russian german

. they didn't know it at all. it is necessary as a german businessman. it was schmidt who had the opportunity to visit countries with which the ussr did not have diplomatic relations. by the way, there were a lot of such countries, starting even from europe itself, spain portugal then, israel, many arab countries and south korea. one of these countries was the south african republic, in the fiftieth year. there, a law was passed on the pressure of communism, of course, relations with the soviet union became only tense. that south africa has a bomb to the center?

all of them occupied the leading industries , the highest places. and they all always gathered in the hotel bar. we became good friends. there he was charming, talkative and generous, often treated those who gathered at his own expense with beer. he was a sociable person, an interesting interlocutor began to invite him to some events receptions. and here being on such. eh, he's welcome. well, let's say provoked an appropriate conversation, what is about to say that south africa is there, well, which one is the

nuclear bomb in it? sorry backwater in this hole. meanwhile, a woman was sitting next to me, she was dozing. all of a sudden, she would open her eyes and say, and you know, after all, we say in december 1976, we were just celebrating the creation of this atomic bomb. we said it with israel and we celebrated with champagne and all the delicacies and so forth. here are the bearings. she was a secretary general director. here is this base transferred. there was a think tank that was involved in the development of the atomic bomb, but just like here, for example, you know, uh, arzamas 16 is a famous center, there are the same people who were working on these issues, information that yes. south africa has its own nuclear weapons, moreover , tests have been carried out and work continues

in this direction, they have gone to the center. how he managed to send information to moscow europe receives a letter in 2-3 days. there, the comrades know the postal address. in the post office, he seizes the mail and shows the state of writing, then he is sent to us. in 1980 sat down at the airport, i look out the window and through the porthole the planes are heading for us like a black car. this sixth sense a person has for sure now i know this for a long time. so

i think, well, it was deliberately for me that they put me in handcuffs in a car and took me to the praetorium. on the day of the detention of the illegal intelligence officer, his father died of a broken heart. he didn't even know he was failing. son. he didn’t know anything at all, father mikhail alekseevich kozlov was always an example of courage and fortitude for alyosha, a front-line commissar of a tank battalion, a participant in the battle of kursk, returned home without a leg. however, he worked hard and held high positions. including was the director of the oil depot in sheksna , sometimes several kilometers from home. at the time of the arrest, kozlov's wife tatyana borisovna had long been dead. in 1970,

my wife fell seriously ill. so, on the orders of the center, i had to return to homeland. at first, while my wife was on e, she was treated as an outpatient, everything was fine. the guys went to school, then she ended up in the hospital. there was no need to do anything with the guys . and in his arms there are young children, a boy and girls on the little things of my children, because i have to leave them in a boarding school before my eyes.

a female scout of an illegal immigrant who grows up children is worried that they grow up without a real homeland. yes, they don’t know either grandfather or grandmother, but some, uh, without a clan , without a tribe. it's destructive to the psyche. if you see some kind of gun on a helicopter , it was made at the tula instrument design bureau. installed yes, at kamaz we had to work on drones. yes , the boys worked. today. our main direction is anti-aircraft systems. this is a whole family of cars.

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the defender option 30 days for free, we have learned to control the energy of the atom and move forward into a safe tomorrow in a world where there is no fear, distance. we create the future and open the way to new ideas and professions. after the death of his wife, kozlov began to work alone . it was desirable that he did not settle anywhere in one place for a long time, and he began to work alone in the whole region very hard together. better first, we can talk about the fact that we do the same job. and in general it is, well, small, but a family unit of children. he

almost didn't see it. lyosha very rarely spoke about this, apparently, this was a very sore subject for him. he tried to help them unconditionally, but the children were already adults when he returned. this meant that he did not have the right to a lawyer to communicate with the outside world and to receive any information. this was not far from the truth for the investigator who interrogated him in his office. portrait of hitler so drinking, there is torture.

this was a normal phenomenon for him. they had fun. they had such things. chairs with arched backs, so my hands were handcuffed behind the back of the chair. well, and so the back arched and it was enough to poke a finger so that the person fell, and the floor there was concrete. in general, my hands were asleep, this is all, and for the fifth time, when you fall, you lose consciousness. then they transferred me to another cell alone. it was death row. he spent six months there all his life. he remembered about he remembered loved ones, uh, parents about children. friends, comrades, to their work of their youth, because something had to occupy the brain. yes, just mindlessly looking at the walls, listening to these uh, screams, not every person

copes with this. kozlov stood his ground, i’m a german, i don’t understand what they are accusing me of, they checked him on a lie detector for interrogations, representatives of the special services of england, the united states, and israel specially came to persuade israel to betray somewhere. you didn’t want to just turn him over to make him, as it were, this mole double. if that doesn't work, then at least get uh information about what task he came to south africa with, what methods he did. methods of work of soviet intelligence. everything was interesting to them. once they brought me for interrogation and showed me two photographs. at a fairly young age, my and my wife and i

turned one photo card over in their presence. it says alexei mikhailovich kozlov, well, after that i no longer said that i was german. i honestly admitted. yes i am. scout kozlov spent 2 years in uar prison all this time. he did not know what was going on in the world in moscow passed olympics 80 people said goodbye to vysotsky, he did not know, there was nothing, no newspapers, no radio, no dates. what did he manage to do? this is probably the incredible motivation of love for the motherland. this is what gave him strength. these are ugly words. no, the house is something so sacred. it's such an incredible clear high. and this is enough to withstand not even 2 years. the

skin on his hands began to burst. lack of chlorophyll in solitary confinement was the only tiny window under the very ceiling from 90 kg, he lost weight to 57. a unique natural diamond 57 carats. he is called aleksey kozlov. his own scout kozlov, like this crystal of the highest standard, is a man of special moral hardening and fortitude of the spirit. diamond. this is perhaps the hardest most precious stone. our hero, our colleague, was just such a person. can't be broken. but

he didn’t break alexei mikhailovich adamas , that is, not broken, not bent, but in the east, almas, that is, neit, verdish kozlov was mined in the field of the republic , dried under the cover of permafrost and for a long time was inaccessible to man in 1982. it gave him confidence that they thought of him, that they were looking for him, that they were

worried about him, and hoped that everything would end well on december 1, 1981 , the prime minister of south africa made a statement on television that the soviet intelligence officer kozlov had been arrested 20 minutes of walking per day. when i came out, i remember looking at the sun, it was such happiness for me, because i don’t need anything else. i am the happiest person in the world prisoners. there were also murderous thieves. i am worked in the west bought the first newspaper that came across within the framework of alexei mikhailovich

thank you, we will work. moscow began to act to prepare an exchange how did the center know that kozlov had not betrayed anyone? why were they sure of this? the protocols of interrogations of the intelligence officer were sent to the frg, since he was officially a citizen of this country, and from the frg our source transmitted this information to the gdr from there. she came to moscow. our east german friends told us your boyfriend is holding on, they beat him and torture him. he didn't say a word to the interrogation protocols. they were actually empty, there were only questions without answers and that's it. aleksey kozlov was

exchanged at a high exchange rate for him alone 10 western german spies arrested in the gdr and in the ussr caught by cubans in valais were asked for an exchange prepared with the active participation of a well-known german lawyer. difficult, because it will be necessary to look for many people. who worked in the gdr, first acted as intermediaries in 1957 , taking part in the exchange of kgb agent rudolf abel, who was detained in the united states, for the american pilot harry powers, who was shot down on the territory of the ussr, the exchange procedure took place on the glinek bridge between western berlin and the undercarriage. over the

next 30 years, about 150 agents of intelligence rival countries in the cold war passed through the glininsky bridge, with the mediation of vogel, as a result of lengthy negotiations , in fact, an entire bus passed from the other side. may 28, 1982 alexei kozlov brought a suit shirt tie. south african intelligence general he received me very politely and told me that we are now preparing you for the exchange, but now i said goodbye to my investigator colonel gloim, he shook my hand warmly. he said i'm sorry for everything that happened to you here. we just didn't know who we were dealing with. but now we

know that you are a real normal guy not a real man. she, then, firmly shook my hand, felt something solid, then on the plane. i saw that it was the south african counterintelligence badge on the right of the arrest. they had a sign that was probably issued to a certain circle of agents, which, when presented, indicates that this person has the right to detain you. this kozlov would then give a kind of souvenir to his colleague in moscow, apparently, he did not want to keep the south african prison, and so he had nightmares for the rest of his life. this topic was obviously so heavy and unpleasant for him that he avoided talking on this topic. in parting, the jailers again plunged over him on the way to the airport, brought him to a rock, where a monument to the pioneers with a drill was erected. here they said, we will

shoot you. i think it was a desperation move, they decided. uh, well, for the last time, or something to try to win him over to your side decided to throw out such a rough fortit there it would suddenly break. yes, this is a man on the rise of emotions. yes, he happily goes home, and suddenly they say to him, now he is standing with you. now it's going to be bad. and someone. maybe in this situation. do you know how to break something? but kozlov did not flinch, flew secretly in the cabin of a boeing 747 , it was only he and the guards in frankfurt am main, the intelligence officer was transferred to the helicopter of the west german border protection department, which landed at the control room. herlingshausen. returned to where he started the gdr with him he had a small suitcase. it contained a bar of soap and a cigarette-rolling machine given to him by the inmates of the pretoria central jail. when we arrived

in berlin, our comrades made the most beautiful table for us, of course, all the delicacies were everything, but they didn’t guess. i don’t know, they put a saucepan with hot potatoes with loose potatoes and a plate of herring next to me, as i fell on everything to do this, i remember when our representative, general shumilov, flew from berlin from moscow . i myself am not damned betrayal. monster there can't be anything offensive in life. someone betrayed, well, who

turned out to be a traitor, a foreign intelligence officer, career intelligence officer oleg gordievsky, he betrayed alexei kozlov, everything was revealed in 1985, when gordievsky fled to the uk, then multiplying twice two realized that it was four so once i flew from tehran i should have flown. i flew to moscow via copenhagen gordievsky was then a deputy resident. and i met with the residents, the documents were changed. aleksey mikhailovich showed him a danish passport this strictest is always forbidden and is accompanied by certain instructions. well, that's human nature, it sometimes fails. well, he's my smell . fucked up there. information including reported to the

special services about the russian illegal aliaksei kozlov. gordievsky was uncovered in 1985, but he was then able to escape from the soviet union and still lives in the uk. it's a shame to go to the enemy, against whom he worked. incredibly, gordievsky betrayed everyone he knew about, including a married couple of illegal intelligence agents lyudmila and vitaly noykins. we were hidden by the same person, her husband's gradient documents, he knew and cooked. just issued it's very complex. it was a shame that we had been preparing for so many years, everything was already working out for us, everything that we had been doing here for so many years worked and

lyudmila arrived here at that moment in order. repair on the high seas, it was impossible, he was uncontrollable, it was scary, of course. and even the captain came and told her husband, you have clean linen. he says eat. what 's the matter? well, we have such a tradition that when we die, we put on clean clothes? luckily, the ships were taken in tow and delivered to a country not far from russia from there by plane home. in november 1985, the gordian soviet court was sentenced in absentia to death by

firing squad, this sentence has not yet been canceled by god or the creator and universal forces. here they are . largely thanks to the soviet intelligence officer alexei kozlov, south africa, under pressure from the world community, was forced to abandon the already existing nuclear weapons. he is credited with being the first person to report that south africa had real practical developments. in this area in 1988. south africa has completely curtailed

its nuclear weapons program. all bombs. they were dismantled and disposed of. i witnessed administering grace - it was a complete curiosity when the south african representative made the statement. here's what south africa recognizes as a nuclear weapons program, that 6.5 items have been produced. and that they have all been eliminated. and what? the main thing is that, and they are ready to accept all the inspections of the mgt that we are ready for. in 1990 , frederick deller became president of south africa, we need to abandon nuclear development and atomic weapons, and this was enshrined. after the exchange, alexei mikhailovich worked for some time in the central intelligence apparatus. in the center, too, work is above the roof, because the scout was illegal. actually

supports an extensive communication network. aleksey mikhailovich was doing just that with the transfer of support, then he could not stand it and turned to yuri ivanovich drozdov, head of the illegal intelligence department. send, they say, to work abroad again. still illegal. this calling is a way of life. and then one day i was sitting in an office in the autumn rain. and such a longing captured me, it won’t go, i came to him. mikhalych the whole world knows you.

a very brave leader of an excellent operational worker, he made a decision and alexei mikhailovich went back to work. with madonna in the film by alan parker

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point. hero of russia is not just very difficult. we have what a slogan without the right to glory for the glory of the state, and we all understand this very well. they did not see each other for half a century teacher and student. there was only a photograph in the album, which the iron selman carefully kept, this is the tenth grade graduation class. and on the reverse side it is signed by his hand, here we are nazhmulevich to his father from alexei kozlov and dad did not

know what an outstanding person alexei mikhailovich had become, but nevertheless. you can see the photo is still in our album. for many years, the fate of alexei kozlov in his homeland is nothing did not know in 2006, the school received a message that a graduate of our school is a hero of russia and he came to visit us and spoke. i went to pray to god that my german teacher would be alive, who taught me the german language so much that for all the years of my work illegally, no one even suspected that i was not a native speaker. the last time i came to him. uh, in 1957 i'll tell them a big thank you and a hug. it will be perhaps 50 years later in a flat day. we

found through a call for rent. i'm lyosha kozlov alexei kozlov do you remember me? papa, lord, my dear. well, how can you not remember, zelva shmulevich, so you look like you left me, lord, my god hello dear. oh my god you are. there is still such god 50 years. a 50. yes, it's even just amazing that the teacher is still alive and found uh his student in such a capacity. yes, as a hero of russia it is so unforgettable. i think an event in his life, but for alexei mikhailovich it was definitely an event. he worked at the vologda school for 43

years at the university and many of our graduates. there was an opportunity to move to the sisters in canada, but he refused to work as apprentices. where without them? aleksey kozlov returned to moscow in 1997. until his last days, the intelligence officer worked with young foreign intelligence officers, passing on his unique life and operational experience to them or to young people. it was all very modest. that's not something that is inferior. here i am a hero. no, it was never normal. this is my profession for such a person, well, absolutely devoted to the country. ussr, which for him is not just a country, it is

his religion. i will tell you that this word is patriotism. love for the motherland is for me, but you will forgive me, but it seems holy to me and you now know the opposite from this word of patriotism, but somehow it begins to be evaluated again in a completely different way, that is, in the correct sense. these are the people who come to work with us now. i spoke with many of them. and i must say that it is really now the feeling that i had when i said, this is the word patriotism love for the motherland hello

at the beginning of the program, do not say that today is the winter solstice in an amazing way, but intertwined in this very day from the winter solstice. and what is this, and this is the shortest day and the longest night, that is, the formality of today, nature begins to somehow move from uh darkness to light, but since we are people who do not believe in any symbols and in any matches. and as if we just love beautiful eyeliners, we

are talking about the fact that today we coincided in an amazing way on this very day, and three events that, by and large, are again symbolic, but include well , by and large, 80 percent of today's, and against that very conflict, the confrontation of the global one that we are talking about, which is expressed both in a military conflict on the territory of the former ukraine and in confrontation with the west in the form of nato and that the whole world should decide on this matter or not , and who directed this business and in whose capacity, and threw in, what is called this incident eli and what are these events? well, of course, it's today the collegium of the ministry of defense of the russian federation is an extended colleague of the ministry of defense of the russian federation, which, well, such events, they always attract attention from a nuclear power and from major military powers, especially. naturally, when

the army of this power leads. uh, the hostilities have been for a long time already, and when in these hostilities, and she opposes in a certain sense of the word, and the nato bloc and there, naturally, the supreme commander and minister of defense of the russian federation spoke, and e. it one part, as it were, very symbolic, which symbolizes itself and, of course, a lot was said there and mostly it was said. about a special military operation and in terms of confronting snat and in terms of the need to protect our citizens and in and in terms of the need to provide, uh, our army with everything necessary and exactly on the same day, talking about the symbols of this global confrontation exactly on the same day when at the extended colleagues of the ministry of defense are discussing the course of a special military operation, and the deputy secretary of the security council e russian federation dmitry anatolyevich medvedev a is on a visit to china, he

is received, uh, gray pin and uh, not just he receives him, but receives him with an important message from the president and supreme commander of the russian federation vladimir putin, and moreover, sentenpin speaks of a certain, but a certain readiness for rapprochement with russia as part of a more equitable governance of the world. about whom he is talking about, we will discuss later, but precisely. this, among other things, gives symbolism to the third today's event, which in the difference from the first two has not yet happened, namely the expected arrival, but to the overlord, uh, joe biden, and the vassal and vladimir a zelensky ah, which visit, which is also in general, saturated with a certain kind, uh, symbolism, which is also very indicative in the frame of all this, but the picture, well, how would you understand this picture lacks what

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in yourself be closer with your loved ones now unlimited instant messengers are available to all mts subscribers. even at zero, and with a smart defender system, your communication will not be interrupted by spam calls. activate the defender option for 30 days for free . uh, actually those events that are how i said at the beginning of the program. it seems to me one way or another in the global sense of the word. and, well, in general, they describe themselves. uh, most of the problems that we face today or that affect our lives and the ongoing hostilities both the confrontation with the nato bloc and the confrontation with the nato bloc due to the fact that we have different ideas about how the world should work and there is still

china with its claims. and for this, well, and accordingly, there is an anglo-saxon project, which was called ukraine in the past and was even a country before some time. here and here e. we start with hostilities, as i said, and when hostilities are going on in the country, the expanded colleagues of the ministry of defense and the speech of supreme commander-in-chief minister of defense e cannot but arouse interest. e in the literal sense of the word, and not even to every expression to every phrase, but even to some, well, relatively speaking, signals intonations to the order of how what is said and what is said, and this can be listened to at different levels depending from that, well, from the point vision. what kind of perspective are you listening to? well, i, for example, listening well, i have such one ear, it is always tuned to such more practical questions of the military. well , due to the fact that i travel and due to the fact that i communicate a lot with uh, warring people, and in

force with both the military and volunteers who carry many friends. i have mobilized. i heard a lot. in the president's speech, here is about the layer that concerns , and i think this is very important. the signal that he touched on almost all issues, which are heard in society on a topic related to the conduct of hostilities, and he said, well, i started with this that, of course, this is already, well, it’s practically a common place that we oppose, and the military potential of almost all countries, but within this that e military operations have identified issues on which we must, as they say, work hard. this is a direct quote. and what and dry rations body armor and uniforms. everything should be at the highest level and everything is necessary. what a fighter needs should be modern and reliable and that we have no funding restrictions and the country gives everything that the army asks for and about drones, about which a lot was said, a separate

emphasis was made the most important. i believe the emphasis, which, well, sets such a task. well, let's say grandiose that every fighter should have information transmitted from drones. well, that is who well more or less has to do with it. what does this imply? well, the level of saturation of the armed forces with drones is completely different than now. and not just saturation, but creation of a system for the exchange of information between them, and even then it should be put on some completely different level of technological and supply. e security level. that is, all that is being developed should be certified faster, faster produced , troops delivered faster on some very organized one. e basis now. well, let's put it this way, so far. hmm, not everywhere and not always and not at all. uh, yes, and the president also said that the partial mobilization carried out revealed certain problems, and they need to decide in doing so, declaring that 300,000 people.

this is enough reserve to conduct a special operation. i repeat. this is what i heard. well, as it were, uh listen here at the level of such an average mundane, but your own perception. of course, there are also much higher and more complex levels and geopolitical signals and economic signals. oleg, here's what you think. well, we understand perfectly well that when and at such a time and in general presidents, the commander-in-chief speaks with something at such an event. he understands very well that listens to the whole world, and the whole country and the whole world is yes indeed here, uh, media in the good sense of the word, the media meaning of yes of the past. meetings, and it is very important, but it shows quite clearly, and it defines the interests of russia, the goals and objectives of a and it e , which most importantly emphasizes the mood he said about this. e. vladimir putin for unconditional execution. uh, all targets, uh, special

military operation, i also quote close to the text. but, as you say, that you also listened with a military ear, half tried to listen, and half with a political science ear. and the important thing here is that there are multiple ears, but i singled out one of my many oohs knowing that i have many other ears in the studio. well, i was like an avatar of your ear, it was logical. oh, and what i thought was important. this is what the president said that e is clear that the current military situation. yes , it requires the complete unity of society and government, and the complete unity of the country and the army. and therefore, uh, what, they say, worried russian patriots. even if in an emotional form, and even with criticism certain actions of the ministry of defense, but the ministry should not be offended by this. the ministry should take note of this,

and isolate the rational grain there to correct. uh, mistakes are where they are, and the president has clearly gone over the mistakes. yes, and for the shortcomings, so to speak, that is, this ak. on the voice of society - these are absolutely issues on which we must, as they say, work hard. yes, and here it’s just that we all need to work, and not blame each other that society is interfering in its own business, but also work in unison and one more thing. uh, it seems to me fundamentally important, and not now, it is the future of what was already said in the report of the secretary of defense is a shift. e call age aga from eighteen to 27 and now how it goes with us. ah, the call. yes, and the minister minister offered to move it. e 3 years ahead, that is, start calling from 21 and end at 30. and we agree that

it changes quite a lot. uh, the life strategies of most young people. uh-huh and since those uh young people who are on a deferment to 27 years are usually graduate students, that is, 3 years bachelor's degree 2 years master's degree 3 years of postgraduate study or four, so these 9 10 years are obtained. they reach 27 a and e, the military departments were sharply reduced in the previous era is incomprehensible. why in my opinion, and lieutenants and reserves, if we have a military school for 4 years, some did not graduate young lieutenants, and now the hair on our heads is torn, we don’t have enough officers if we have disbanded the cropped units, if we have a complete military registration and enlistment office system practically, level, you are still talking about the military department exactly, because of the same, but just 10-11 ago, if this is implemented, it will make the call more age. yeah, and this is much more likely, and will not give

the opportunity to pull from in the good sense of the word i say. it's not like i'm slacking off, but as a rule, i'll repeat the delay for 9-10 years. these graduate students are the people who then go. well, graduate students, in my opinion, are being deduced from this whole story with mobilization, as far as i understand on this call, but i understood you about the call. here, that is, here among the younger generation, it can change a lot. uh, all the layout of the life strategy, since this is the figure of 27 years. yes, she was some kind of a certain reference point of stability. yes, until the age of 27 you live according to one life strategy from the age of 27. i don’t want to say you breathe in calmly, but you sigh and move on to another stage of your life strategy. and now here's what the guys who are between 25 and 30 will think is a big question here, firstly, it is important that and it is important that they did not tell me that this would be phased in, it is extremely important that this is not an afterthought. that is, who is now 28 not

came on call. questions may arise here, again, here is the dialogue between society and the ministry of defense. what the president emphasized does not seem extremely important to agree, but in fact, many who, uh, followed and listened. and i think that a lot of people followed and listened to the extended colleagues of the department of defense. but just a speech to the minister. defenses noted another very important point, and which concerns this one, well, global political science or there international political science history is the words of the minister of defense, but, which, well, in general, many perceive and, probably, they should be perceived that way, that a special military operation will last the entire 23rd year. well, in any case, and, probably, in terms of meaning, the priority task for 23 years is to continue to conduct a special military operation until the tasks are fully completed. can

this be interpreted in your opinion? michael or not? that the third year is already, well, in some such first approximation, the whole is already set aside for the continuation of the tasks of a special military operation. well, you know, you can interpret it in quite different ways, in my opinion, this is a statement of fact. as a result, the task of the special military operation during the twenty-second year was not fulfilled. so it will continue until they are completed. the only good news is that, as you can understand from the words of the minister of defense , these goals are supposed to be achieved in the twenty-third year, because the goals are not for the next five years, but for the next year, and i should note that i always thought what kind of task put the political leadership of the country. and the ministry of defense should carry out these tasks, that is, it always seemed to me that such a task should be set not by the ministry of defense, but by the ministry of defense. yes? not it, but him, well,

probably in our country, uh, so to speak, not only the terms, uh, of conscription are in a dynamic state, but uh, as it were, the relationship between the political leadership and the executive military is also acquiring some dynamics. clearly, what else did you hear? here you are you know, i don't really share much. here are the worries about the fact that we used to have up to 27 now it will be up to 30 and someone will think about something in connection with this. it seemed to me that everyone thought about when partial mobilization began, and at that moment it became. i hear it doesn't matter. how old are you. in fact, yes, if you are over 45 and you are a private, you can also be mobilized, although there are significantly fewer of those who did not serve, and who do not have a military registration specialty, who did not serve, yes, they either

flinched and it doesn’t matter how old they decided wait it out. outside of the russian federation , it’s like we can’t proceed from the fact that if some people, who are like 60 years old there, have a disability, they served in the army and don’t have a military id, but they got excited, shuddered and went somewhere you go to 60 years old. i can't say, but a lot of people at the age of 50, having a military specialty, went into the army . volunteers there are no volunteers, voluntarily. it is not necessary. everything, here in one volunteering. this is a different issue. i have fellow soldiers we are 57 years old. gone but it was a choice. he waited for mobilization and went on mobilization. well, consider it voluntary. this is, as it were, a different story, and therefore it’s just that the mobilization of youth has partially shown exactly the youth. she showed them that the rules can change. if the rules can change, then how exactly, they change

today this detail, because tomorrow they cannot change in a different way. here was some constant now. it's not a constant now it's flexible now it's a dynamic constant great. this is new. actually, that's why it was said that it would not immediately, but constantly yes, gradually immediately gradually. yes, and that all these questions will be worked out, and so on and so forth. in fact, this is sort of a story. and it seems to me that it is stated precisely in order to express different points of view. and this is just within the framework of what is, well, this dialogue between society and the ministry of defense on some issues is not on all issues, the ministry of defense should actually. i would like to pay attention, so questions. yes, probably, he has not only with the ministry defense, because the whole very wide circle is connected, if by the mobilization of its military industry, uh, a special group has been created, which included three. well, military correspondents, uh, the head of the telegram channels and so on, rightly so, and just like that, but oh,

as i said, many many different. u angles of vision, including hearing, uh, from which one can listen to the president. well, probably according to your what is called konstantin vasilievich specialization, and among other things, you should have been interested in the phrase that russia will not completely switch to a military footing and completely militarize to the detriment of the economy, but in your opinion this phrase. uh, do not know the market economy to entrepreneurs. and there to someone else, but sends a signal, what and about what? it's uh, i say it again, well, it's clear that if such a phrase sounds, it means it sounds for someone and for something. yes, i will comment now, if i may, at the beginning, two words of an educational ear from an educational ear, since the discussion started here. oh, i'm just reminding you that here is what oleg and mikhail talked about. uh,

about changing the rules of the game, but for now, at least, our state declares that phds. uh, they are exempt from conscription here, again, they often confuse the mobilization of prizes with speech, there was a conscription. so they are exempt from conscription. therefore, if we still have enough mind, to return postgraduate study to its original meaning, when people came to write dissertations and made their choice in favor of science, then their trajectory. i would oppose oleg here will not change. we just have now as you know, for some reason they made postgraduate studies, the third stage of education. and people go there to study, and not at all to defend dissertations. and oleg, by the way, talked about this many times, and i think they know this, and putin even said that we would return it, but we did not return anything, because because this is also one of the paradoxes. we talk all the time. eh, so we realized that there are a lot of western ideas. we used to need to change this, but, for example, uh, the use is the same as it was with us, and it remains, and we remain part of the bologna system. that is,

we, as it were, where it is not necessary to abandon western ideas. and where you need to refuse, on the contrary, we just refuse, but save this is such a simple educational remark , it is important remarque, because in fact, when it is said that the goals and objectives of the special military operation will be fulfilled and this will be a sale from the entire twenty-third year, special military operation. as has been said many times, it does not carry strictly and exclusively military tasks, it is primarily about what our country will be like at the exit from this operation. and all this is the exam and that, how education works and how science works is the most important. and i also agree, if we still think in a longer perspective. we have to understand that uh and its many problems popped up before the cast, not only messi it would be nice to have them. children now begin to deprive now about the economy. yes, you are absolutely right. this is what struck me personally and in the eyes of this phrase regarding the fact that our economy is not becoming militarized. i think this is also important, because we also often hear

what now, uh, we must forget about everything. uh, there, uh, order- close all all enterprises that are not related to defense. in the literal sense, and uh, that's it. everything for the front, everything for the victory in this regard, it is absolutely obvious that the situation in the economy is now. well, quite dramatically different from the period. let's say the second world war, because many people in this category think that this is how it was there, although, by the way, many people there also forget that economic relations were ahead of the second world war. and, by the way, the salary was paid because of the padded aircraft. the tanks were paid in separate layers, about which little is said, but the ruble also fought. today he, too, is fighting on fighting a little differently. and in this regard, if we e the economy e call it the civil economy we will destroy e, we will be left without this ruble, which fights in a different way, e, and then it will be much more difficult to finance the

defense in full, the industrial complex, drones and so on and so forth. other, uh, again, the same drones, uh, which are underproduced, you have to buy. yes, there, where such an opportunity exists, you also have to pay for it. and there, too, relations, including energy-political economic ones , include the system, just within the framework of what you said about drones and the president said about them today, and as i already , well, i repeat. uh, well, designated as uh, well, that level of a completely different saturation with drones is correct. well, look, about militarization, what is the militarization of the economy, because we always say such a transfer of the economy to mobilization flights and rails or a mobilization channel i give an example with drones. so, i don’t know yesterday or the day before yesterday they sent me a video. uh, military guys, uh, it means from uh, the union of novorossiysk paratroopers, in my opinion, yes, uh, that at one of the exhibitions it means

that some completely different quality and efficiency is demonstrated, and so on unmanned aerial vehicles, which, well, ta-t, i ask the question perfectly, what is it next now the question is, how quickly will it be certified and will it be certified? will he be allowed to production and procurement for the armed forces, and so on and so forth. this is a question of level, not that of the militarization of the economy, but this is a question of the level of approach, just like we have said more than once in this studio that i still don’t know yes, recently existed, for example, huh? with tenders that need to be held to order ammunition, when excuse me take out before half 157 days you have a tender. if not, then it’s like you’re to blame, but ammunition is needed tomorrow, that is, this is the brink of militarization and not militarization. this and here is michael many acts in the economy are obsolete. and as i understand it, because it seems to me that the participation of our society is understood by the word militarization. well,

i'm being rude. well, that's how you extract oil. yes? let's stop doing this. we sent the drillers to the defense plant or to our own zone, because they are needed there more, this is militia, but you see it so you understand well, yes, i understand, i understand, i understand that you are part of my photographs, yes . uh, and i disagree with this, but they agree so in my understanding, when we talk about mobilization, we are talking about something else. and what about the fact that citizens, but that the civilian part of the economy must earn money, yes, which will go as well. look at the structure of the budget for an increase in spending on and this is happening. it's already there. and what you say, of course, the question immediately arises. how effective this is about what you said, which revealed a huge number of problems from your own. including how this money is spent, which is devoted to defense systems, when the president says that combat is an issue that we should think about, he may well be referring to more than just

combat issues. they began to think, but look, here there is, as it were, another side. i’m talking about it again, the president spoke about many of the outdated acts and mechanisms there, because yes, and you rightly say that there must be a certain part of the economy that works. well, for profit so that this profit goes to e, the production of what is also needed for those people whose, but on the other hand , questions arise. but is it possible in the conditions of hostilities conducted by the armed forces, and the work of that part of the economy that trades with countries that produce weapons. with which our soldiers kill, who sells, for example, certain types of raw materials for this. here and this earnings, he still remains legitimate in the framework of the capitalist economy. or should it be some level of militarization, if you like, of the economy, this is the most important issue , you understand, it is the most important, but you are fine understand that a volume of commodity trade with the collective west. it shrinks, it shrinks, it shrinks, but roughly

speaking, some types of raw materials there for the production of some kind of ammunition there, their volume is not very large, but roughly speaking, if you supply such and such blue for the production of something then, and from this they make shells, then the question arises. maybe you are making billions. the question is the billions earned on this, for which shells or some kind of enemy weapon were produced. is this still acceptable or is it already should be reviewed? that's what the conversation is about, right? mikhail, i still want to stand up for russian state administration, because with my extremely critical attitude towards him, here is the question that it is necessary to close civilian production and call it militarization, it is completely absent. it may exist for shabby turbopatriots, but in public administration such a position simply does not exist , so that we simply do not fight this with mills, and konstantin vasilyevich in this case mixed his a little, the thesis, about

which we have discussed a lot here about the fact that there really is such a position that if they are actually at war with us, then why are we trading oil and gas with them? why do we even supply it there, for example, oleg says, this is what we are talking about. this is a serious question. just today, the state duma launched an investigation against one of the deputies, which may be a little more blunt than usually interested. and why do we pay for ah, so to speak, some goods for some services to the ukrainian state right now is following its relationship with those who pay in relation to the deputy who drew attention to this . the deputy drew attention to this. and an investigation began against him. that there may be something said too sharply, yes, that is, it is within the framework of the regulations within the framework of the regulations, of course. well, maybe he really said something sharply, you know, sometimes the form of a fair question. she matters too. i know this for sure. why

does he have as a person who is banned on youtube once a month? i know this, but there is a fact that is more meaningful than any form, this fact remains unchanged for 10 months . i would like to return to what president putin said first, that we will have militarization, but not excessive or revitalization will not harm the economy, but will serve it, in my opinion, a wonderful point of view is wonderful. well, as it were, i'm a little more deployed. this is an excellent position, it remains to guess the normative acts within the framework of this installation, that is, to saturate, but with legislative and documentary content the notion that we will not be completely militarized to the detriment of the economy, then completely not in the earth. let's electrify and let's not do damage. well, respectively, we will do exactly what, because already today what provides. who keeps our

economy, as it were, keeps the economy of the military-industrial complex, the very militarization of state investment keeps the economy, which there grew by 45% in one of the last months, and housing construction is housing construction from its perspective. i think everyone understands except for the restoration of new territories. what are the prospects, and the other two parts - this is exactly the very militarization that will benefit the economy, which will ensure its development, but neftegaz , of course, keeps our economy. well now look, uh, another facet of, uh, who heard what, which one way or another adjoins to , that's where your ear is kind of directed. i've been since morning. well, taking into account, of course , the time difference between the united states. well , there it is less with europe. i left the task. so, as soon as the collegium ends well , watch. and yesterday i finished the program with the words that pique vests are there, surprisingly , surprisingly, for me it’s still very somehow, either

they don’t know what to say, or it’s still early, well, well, how early in europe it’s not so early in europe excuse me. well, we have seven there now in moscow, which means that somewhere there are four, somewhere there are five. well, in general, in general, even in the states already. well, what is there on the east coast at 11:00 am, that is, in principle, there could already be something there navoit. that's what i see now, maybe you've seen heard more while there is washington post. and the russian armed forces should reach one and a half million people, and putin, uh, intends to win in ukraine well, this is, of course, the deepest construction worthy of the washington post, it would be surprising if he intended to be anything else and er reuters. and putin claims that the russian army, and putin says that the russian army. should work on the problems she faced during the fighting in ukraine everything in general aloud zero, right? i will

never say what they don’t want to say, you need to have a very clearly agreed position . . and now look at what we have come to today's number, then how did you start such a significant day today, not significant for everyone, today, literally a day ago , congress passes a very important law. he's on by and large, it completely unties the hands of the pentagon to see this, you mean no, an interesting story, and until the age of 24, the law operates, according to which the pentagon's purchases are now subject to wartime laws , we read the transcript. what it means means it doesn't matter now. what kind of tenders do you run, no matter where you are and at what price? what are you buying. and most importantly, you do not even have to report. that is, you are, for example, an employee or i say, i want to sell old soviet tanks more, but i’m ready to deliver it to ukraine right now at the price of abrams. we take it. and most importantly, the money

that is allocated, it is allocated, including the closed part of the military budget , questions, by the way, about the level of militarization and the level of transparency. for example, a 800 is almost 48 billion dollars in the military budget, a is about a closed part, a is about a from eight to 11%. yeah, think about 80 billion. it 's practically. yes, already for 900 billion. they come out good like that. here is a progress, as it were, but some kind of hiding place that you have yourself discussing the topic, now among the great political scientists. it is that there has not been such a story over the past 70 years that the united states of america has given the pentagon such a free hand. uh-huh , the statistics are very good. how many stingers did america supply? how many javelins did you deliver now and how long did it take to produce these stingers and the 1.300 javelins stingers that were delivered? a

total of 9 years were produced in ukraine, because production was then curtailed, that is, with javelins, the story is better than 4 1/2 years produced. how much is needed now to deploy operational production and produce such a number of ijavelins and stingers, 155 shells go further down the list. but this already takes about 2.5 years, and therefore it is best to plan days for the 25th year, and for the twenty-seventh full-scale production. and now we see that the visit is being discussed very strongly. and i don’t know the so-called mr. zelensky or there, we will talk later. well, understand this is the agenda that is now being imposed on us all the time saying what i noticed the saying, the total militarization of russia is very good that russia will be drawn into total militarization, because it means that russia will finally simply have its budget torn in two. theirs is what they say now, but they forget one simple thing, but remember the novel is burning, when the novel is burning, by the way, by and large, the

first thing he does, he starts to think, and how can you give yours to the military-industrial complex to do for the military-industrial complex to start making money for the real sector economy. they did it turned out then they talk a lot about iran today iran is in the top almost all american media discuss iran and discuss not how bad it is. and what they were able to achieve hmm under the yoke of sanctions. uh-huh food programs are all implemented and energy programs are implemented the level of quality of life is not torn to shreds and they say, listen, we thought that they would now. well, at best, live in the 18th century, but for some reason the iranians do not live in the 18th century or in the 19th century, but they, yes, they lagging behind america, they say, yes, about 25-30 years, but we had to drive out the 19-18th century, and then they fend off the sanctions that we now imposed, uh, yes, against russia. can they work, since it was in the soviet union and was the soviet union

self-sufficient is the key word that now sounds in the related media of american well english-hell, hey, we forgot that the russian soviet union they are damn self-sufficient. how to make sure that this self-sufficient one is eliminated from them only to take away the territory. here so yeah ah, well, certainly within the framework of all this talk about how they need the pentagon to develop their hands more. it still sounds for sure, and taiwan and china, and a lot of them today about our joint exercises that began in the eastern china sea. this is what always kills me. that is, that is, when they supply weapons, and not only to ukraine, to israel, for example, they supply weapons. it’s like, well, military-technical cooperation is normal. when russia and china conduct exercises there from russia, in my opinion, there are four warships, and it’s like a threat world and na e, so to speak, to the entire globe.

just against this background, the second event. e, about which i started today, which, unlike the first from the expanded board of the ministry of defense, has become unexpected for many, i would say for most commentators. today i found out from my colleagues that's who works. well , no one at all, either it happened very quickly and let's say in some sense of the word it was urgent or it was prepared a little earlier, but really with the maximum level, a closeness and secrecy, i further remind everyone that this important topic, more precisely, the important background of this visit of dmitry medvedev and the meeting with him as a dolphin is that medvedev conveyed putin's message to pin, and here i am , being, let's say, well, an amateur, probably, in these matters, but i still wondered what is likely. there must be something so significant that, given, well, all the possible options for e

-communication that exist in the 21st century, in general and between heads of state and technologically advanced features, nevertheless. maybe must be delivered only personally and the level of importance of this message is such that, well, after all, in the report card and about the ranks of the chinese. well, sedinpin. uh. well, let's just say taking a for the chinese. this is a very important story, like a report card, and ranks, and so on and so forth , and what and what, after all, but this meeting, personally, this says a lot, because well, a gray pin takes in chinese report card and about ranks, but a slightly higher position than dmitry anatolyevich in our report card rank, and yet. this is personal meeting. it's a lot, for sure. the question is only about what we will now discuss, as well as about what. uh, well, let 's discuss this one for a start, and then we'll move there, right? if we talk about the chinese table e, orangs e and translate our titles into the

chinese table of orangs, is dmitry anatolyevich a former general secretary? khudzin-tau, uh, it doesn’t happen like that with former general secretaries of former presidents, so here it’s clear that uh now , uh, dmitry anatolyevich himself is the chairman of the security councils in another position, according to in fact, the second man of the military. e military-political complex of the country. and, but nonetheless. here is the former status b the importance of relations and c what is now very important for china yes, there was a congress, uh, at which pinperiya was elected for a third term, a, at which uh, i think we all saw it in our social networks. eh, such a stormy war between our sinologists among themselves. yes, who will predict more there? who is there to predict what kind of conspiracy inside the chinese? well, in general, our chinese fought each

other, but in the end they won, sitting, in the end xingping won. yes, and now he can breathe easy, yes, he has 5 years ahead of him. e huge work and our cysts are calmed behind his back. yes, well, there is one such still soviet, as it were, such e is not even a joke. it sounded at one of the e -party forums, soviet forums, that the east has awakened, and soviet orientalists are still sleeping, yeah, but to some extent it will not reflect. well, well, the point is that a is a kind of pre-election, but a pre-election element in chinese politics. he slept because. uh, there's been a lot of discussion all year. here ahead of xi jingping's unprecedented third term. in general, no matter how the violation of the testament in the

densiopin, which the comrades said, does not twist, only two terms change, generation, leaders, and so on, and we discussed. well, hypothetically speculated. in general, in fact, thoughts about the benefit or let's say a military solution to the taiwan issue to elect xi jinping for a third term or not. this reasoning fits quite urgent, unexpected for many, medvedev's visit with a message from putin as they say in the following way? ah, but in xingping's report. we have a hugely ambitious program of economic construction as well. b just world. i've paid attention. today you wrote a very important phrase in the telegram channel. yes, and the world is cooperation based on justice a and in this, china needs a partnership with russia well, look, if you are quoting, uh, well, you are not quoting, and how would you mention my telegram channel. i wrote that about the fact that, well, as it were, the

chinese side is broadcasting. here it is statement. and well si which at last to me now already to hang up, probably, on the screen. my attentively listening colleagues in the control room listened to you. oleg understand? well, i have everything there, as it were, no lower than a candidate of sciences, by the way, they are sitting here writing down. so, with regard to the ukrainian crisis. i hope that the parties concerned will maintain rationality and restraint, conduct a comprehensive dialogue through political methods, and resolve their concerns in the field of security. guys, this is not something, but oleg talks about what a fair world needs e move. here, thank you. you see how they listened to the completely buried papers, well, they outline the experts. yes, the chinese side is ready to move closer to russia so that global governance is carried out in a more fair and rational way. i'm just getting to this issue. and he wrote this on his own, that in general, uh, well, the chinese side is ready to move towards rapprochement with russia. hurray, the drums are beating. so next, i ask a question. and we

are sure that justice and irrationality are more than we are with the chinese. we understand the country in the same way. it's a question what is global governance. and what, then, it was carried out and by whom it should be carried out, and so on and so forth. that is, this is also an interesting question within the framework. by the way, the message that medvedev delivered some important message from putin, and then the question arises - what is it about? and this is about something to compare, i briefly , to compare watches, to understand that the strategic courses of the two countries are not going in unison, but uh, at least in parallel. yes, in one direction in one understanding. now another thought is coming via telegram channels. we have been accelerating in recent months that, like china and india are putting pressure on russia or and they are being

persuaded to put pressure on russia that and when medvedev sits the movement of the goal? yes, this is what needs to be discussed, oh and this once again emphasizes the importance of the fact that these events are on the same day, that is, medvedev is there with a special message from putin and a pin is sitting saying these words. we have colleagues here shoigu says about 23 years old. and, accordingly, this visit and these words and not only these words, in your opinion. what is this about? so the first status of medvedev is unique in china, no analogues? no, because it's not just a zental, it's active. here is a zentau present, therefore, yes, the level is not cd but meet, not a shameful level is a normal level, but it is not shameful to meet, because the second is half a step lower. so, as it was rightly said in china, those situational crises that everyone both external and internal were discussed

. in taiwan, everything is clear with the internal situation. all clear. so you need to exhale and plan a strategy for the next period. uh-huh, further at this moment , the coordination of the visit begins, the coordination of the visit takes time. i am very pleased that it was kept a secret. here's the thing, it was planned ahead of time. i think this according to so we have some kind of such an emergency is happening now. i would like to believe that this is not happening. i would like to believe what president putin informs comrades. but who means, dear comrade, our strategy is this. aha here you are calling for all the declaring policy dialogue very well. our strategy is this. let's dock. yeah, your strategy is also understandable. we will do this, this, this , this is clear. that we don't need to know. in some i would like to know more, but the mystery has a mystery must mean, uh, but a strategic ally to

partners - this must be reported so that they understand how the world will work not in 2 weeks, and six months later i understood, i understood, so that in six months you can speak. oh guys, that you did n’t warn us, and and by the way , about the symbolism of these coincidences, and well, either random or not random. actually a very important point. e that colleagues of the ministry of defense extended, which was supposed to start at 13, began with a delay of 2 hours at 15 and within these two hours of delay, and vladimir vladimirovich gave a start to gas supplies from the kovykino field to china by the power of siberia in my opinion. again, i kind of a conspiracy theorist, in this case in general, it seems to me that this is the most important link, between, as it were, in history and non-military history, and so on, but from the point of view of that, well, where

are the priorities now, and so on, after all, this the story is more informational or more economic in your opinion. well, again, now i will answer your questions with a few words about dmitry anatolyevich medvedev, in fact , he is of the same status. oddly enough, sit down singing, because dmitry anatolyevich medvedev is the leader of the ruling party in russia, about what? i think e is forgotten here, and xi jinping is the leader of the ruling party in china. uh-huh and there, if you don't know, but look at the delegation there, mostly comrades. uh, dmitry anatolyevich in the park. i think that the official level is absolutely equal , the leader of the ruling party comes to the leader of the other party with a message from the president. no, it is clear that vladimir vladimirovich could have made a phone call. e, especially since it is said that after all, at the end of the year there will be their personal big communication about this, too, yes, so it’s clear that this is a symbolic moment, which should. to fix the significance of our relations with china is that you drew attention to the launch of the korotnenskoye

field, of course. this is also very important , obviously, this is also an economic project, but we understand that now in such large stories there cannot be clean economics. yes, the kovypenskaya field is the second large field that is connected to pipeline supplies to china. siberia this year it is expected that we will reach 20 billion pipeline deliveries. e to china on the strength of siberia every day, in fact, gazprom set daily records for deliveries in china , the peak of deliveries, as you know, 38 billion on the strength of siberia, and now negotiations are actively underway on the strength of siberia 2. this is also one of the books. and we must also understand that china, of course, also has its own interests, and it is certainly trying to defend a favorable price formula. uh, but still , he needs gas too. and this is a mutually beneficial partnership, which now , right now, is already an advertisement for me, so i am very short and pre-advertisement to you i will ask a question right away, i emphasize the question

is absolutely idiotic and amateurish. well, as it were, as they say, we have others for you. e, leading e no, after all. here is what is being opened now, this next branch is by far more profitable, whom we or china and i thought that i should answer after the advertisement. this is beneficial for both us and china, because we earn on this and monetize the gas reserves of eastern siberia . china receives a reliable source of gas supplies at understandable prices, no matter who it is . i'm still opposed to us returned to the scheme, when someone wins , someone is sure to lose. in this case, we are talking about the fact that we can help each other with china, uh. thank you sometimes you can get quite intelligible questions for idiotic questions and everything, explaining the questions

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. dmitry anatolyevich medvedev, his meeting with sidan pin, but a message that he conveyed important words from vladimir putin to gray hair, pin that they are ready to move closer to russia within the framework. that's more fair to us and so on. there is global management, which means that the world is here, and here questions immediately arise. so , we understand, uh, fairness and so on, but one more thing that is said in this meeting in relation. here is the agenda that we are discussing, that is , armed conflicts on the territory of ukraine well, it is clear that it is not from ukraine that is said. that's interesting to whom, when the gray-haired pin says that with regard to the ukrainian crisis. i hope that the parties concerned will maintain rationality and restraint , conduct a comprehensive dialogue through political

methods, and resolve their concerns in the field of security, the question arises. and this he addresses. to what sides? formally, we have parties to the conflict, but informally we understand that the parties are completely different. to whom sidimpin is addressing does not say the parties to the conflict. she says the relevant side is as blurry as possible and i'm talking about it and i say one side is drawn he is drawn. more precisely, mikhail whom he calls for a comprehensive dialogue, i ask, but the western masters. uh, the kiev regime and us, yeah. but you understand this, it is in logic. uh, standard chinese approach. we are for the world friendship gum, because we are the best in terms of trade. so we need to maintain global trade at any cost by any means, yes, therefore, we are always for all that is good against all that is fair. there is a

very cruel justice about these. thing another, he says. you guys it's better to talk than to fight, no one argues. nobody argues, but you guys agree. we're not going anywhere . we have nothing to do with it at all. here you are, better less war and more negotiations. yes, but at the same time, he says that they are ready to get closer to russia. and we are ready to run away to get closer, and we brother, alas, with russia, the finger of this guys will freeze. they will return this one as their main trading partners in the face of the eu us we are going to get closer, and with russia we we are going to get closer, because these partners freeze, freeze and fall away from russia, they remain aga, that is, he refers, as it were, to us and to them formally to normal, but really to them, because he will be moving closer to us, and calls them to action. of course, to a greater extent. it was an appeal exclusively to those

conditional countries of the western world. this is the key well, since we are talking about this, if we all agree with this, that this is an appeal to the parties, as it were clear that, in the face of western countries, this coincided. today, too, in general, absolutely. well, either they hid it very much, or it’s a fairly quick story, that is, roughly speaking, grandpa joe is coming today, as if zee’s granddaughter, and on this day sitimpin, says guys you are there, let’s do it somehow already, well, the order is there, place in your household. this is how i perceive it, yes, come on, what's the matter, because it's very important when, uh, the connection of the states of america . ah, some organism. someone's head, someone's ears someone's nose is not someone's, probably arms or legs, right? here you are absolutely right. but let's not develop this word further. and today i was just surprised how

many people on twitter tweeted today's uh, visit yes, rude, but very high quality part of the intestines part of the intestines of zelensky yes , that's right, who comes to joe's girl well, you know what it's like when everything matches and very strongly, the most important word that you uttered today is turned on. this is the concept of justice every person, anyone who is even a little engaged in philosophy, but understands perfectly well, just like that, china will never talk about what a just world is, a just world, when there is a hegemony, a just world that is building a multipolar world, whether it is a politically social or economic term. and what is rationality from the point of view of china, and rationality in chinese is very simple, it is not always very good for us to be the center of power - this is when there is a certain monopoly of power on adoption. uh, very important decisions china today , there are a lot of competitors and competition striving to monopolize this power. the united states of america with its currency system likes this china. no, i don’t like it. of course, it's understandable, but i

understand it all, but, as it were, within the framework of this, and we are still discussing it. so i talked about symbolism today zelensky and this is also very symbolic flying to biden on an american military plane. you say you like it. they say this to china, they are talking about the currency. it doesn't like it anymore. china appeals to all guys, you somehow let's go there, enter into a dialogue and against the backdrop of a call to enter into a dialogue. and the leader, as it were, like sovereign ukraine blah-blah-blah, arrives on an american plane, and for an appointment with, uh, it means to the president of the united states and to speak in congress, so that and what is it in general, that this jack means a monstrously bad sign for ukraine to date, outgoing. uh, congress, yes, bad is a very bad sign. see dead congress. he has now made the decisions that needed to be made. i would say that the first one gave permission for the most part for the pentagon to spend money. but at the same time, we understand that only a few days of the existence of this congress remain. now you can’t ask a cat for a departing nature, he

offers to chat. with how this like tends to like two outgoing natures. so he comes by and large, and says, the fat came out. hello mom in a different way. he ca n't say i need money. why do you need money? he says, well, because things are too bad. things are too bad that he will show there the flag will show, perhaps there will be pictures from space to show that their energy there is somehow not very good now for another question. he is always asked a very good and specific question of recurrence. and on the background of his visit. taiwan starts screaming. just not in my own voice about 18 months. you must have read this and seen why 18 months says guys we sent you money for a bunch of weapons live real money that we paid for in this showed a shisha with butter. yeah maybe you will start supplying us with weapons already or return the money, and against this background, just in one time. again, a coincidence mystical coincidence zelensky comes and says, listen, well, taiwan which is pla. nonsense , give me a weapon, ukraine, give me kharcho, of

course, and here is the question of taiwan , because taiwan says, let's start already, so that we start this year, at least we have made the delivery schedule understood, that is, against the background here this dissatisfaction of the taiwanese and the outgoing congress and so on. and then briefly formulate your idea that zelensky's visit was earlier, not announced in washington is that a call to the carpet? this is not only a call to the carpet. this is a very quick prompt explanation of the real picture, which is and a request, of course, manpower . exactly this. the main thing we tried. this is the drain of zelensky yes, and they explain to him the scenarios for his gradual departure, how we will dispose of you. pick a scenario out of three scavenging scenario one, phone number two, or number three, here's how kirby explains the story, please. the president really considered that with the approach of winter, the entry into the new phase this war of aggression, mr. putin is a

good opportunity for both leaders to meet face to face and discuss not only what the us is doing now and will continue to do in the future. but how, in the end, to try to reach what president zelensky called a just world. here comes the question. it is he who wants to know what ideas about justice does zelensky have or does he? well, that 's what it sounds like. just, as if funny in the background. by the way, the fact that mikhail podlyak him. it seems to me already podlyako, therefore, the language needs to be sewn to the check with e, because it is in once again yes, but you see, you see, we were called and this is a rebuke to all that says that we have a bad relationship. this debunks the myth that we are growing cold, given that this was all written by the western press. basically. so, after all, this visit of zelensky it’s that the format is a call to the carpet, so that what, but it seems to me that e both, because on the one hand, yes, sergei sergeyevich is absolutely right yes, the outgoing congress from the third from the sixth of january completely different congressmen

come, but the situation changes, and ah, in general, during the christmas holidays. yes, it’s not the time for big decisions on the other hand. here is indicative, uh, not vpadalek. and the fact that kirby, he also spoke about a just world. yes, what an interesting word justice turns out to be hanging zenpin, and on the other hand, the american says, yes, and zelensky has all his ideas about justice. they still pretend that they are interested in zelensky 's view of zelensky's view of justice from the other side. yes, if you look at all this situation, after all, it’s true, yes, this is zelensky’s first trip abroad since february 24. uh, ukraine considering that part of the time he was probably sitting in poland, yes. well, at least he was publicly called with everyone, and there he was at the top twenty and at the un and nato well, he didn’t go, like, i’m the president of a warring country there according to well, because apparently as a president, but as a vassal .

perhaps, so perhaps, but here there is, uh, such a metaphor, the tail wags the dog, and since ukraine positions itself like everyone else these months? why are we outpost of the western world taiwan is not farpost taiwan rotten, rotten corrupt regime that develops this money. of course, we are learning too . and here's what you guys took. here is this budget, for which you don’t have to report either, about which sergey they say it ’s very good, but we are an outpost and being an outpost there we have the right to demand, not uh. you are america there kirby blinks on everything about, and we have a question from you within the framework it is said that the tail will wag the dog, firstly, this is theft zelensky by the americans from the british. there is such a version under the absolute control of podolak. it was the same for all the few occasions when he obviously lifted his tail against america and

clearly he couldn't do it himself it was to dedicate it to any other aircraft. he wouldn’t have brought him down to hell, but he couldn’t stop here, the second sergey sergeyevich said very correctly, this is a way to prevent zelensky from talking to the next living congress. let, let the dead communicate with the dead. yeah, i understand, on your look, anyway. eh, this visit. he is, as it were, some kind of pr formality for diesel or for congress or for biden, and so on, or the tail can return the dog and from this something in the practical sense of the word, a practical person can grow something in general, or is it from the area, as it were here is the information white, there is no noise, well, you know, colleagues have already buried zelensky politically and maybe they just unearth the issue. in another question, it doesn’t matter what zelensky will be, the question is what will happen to ukraine with money and weapons. therefore again, i would not call, or rather,

i would call not to be, just like that, just too optimistic, what now? uh, zelensky came to perform the ritual. now it is being disposed of; money will not be given any more weapons will not be given any more. and, of course, they will give money and weapons. and i repeat once again in our situation it is absolutely not important who will be the president of ukraine, zelensky will remain there, will he not be disposed of or not? it is important that, uh, the actual political regime. uh, in kiev, he will remain the same regardless of how he personally looks like zelensky there with podlyako or with some other people. here i am afraid that in the near future there will be no change. that's in the policy of supporting the united states. changes will also take place in ukraine, because against the background of the benefits that the united states receives , the money that is not somewhere in ukraine is nuts for them, but within the framework of this, given what was said, it was not intended. the fact that it would be obvious, as if something were opening a mouth, let it slip. and well, in general,

before that i somehow managed through this videoconferencing, then it only arises one question. if you say that this is all they will give and provide, and so on. why would he go there for this? what he could not get by video link or because they need him, what he needed or they needed him to go there the main question in this, why is there no need for a personal presence, but here i agree with the concept that e zelensky can really realize that and he can personally knock out more money and help and support, that certain risks exist here, at least that the new composition the lower ones i say again, they won’t stop supporting, but some will start asking questions there to find out who sent them somewhere, because this can also be used in the party in the fight because it was he who planned this visit, but this is obviously. he didn't want to come. and he, uh, how would they call him there . why would they call him, so that he is

the main thing in me, that's what i want to understand, that this is a personal presence. yes, there is a version of only legitimast- e legitimization through a certain audience. you saw him listened, not one hundred congressmen all nodded. and now they are the ones who can continue to bear responsibility. that is, that is, his arrival there - it was all the same, until you support him and raise him very briefly and tell him the boy. now you are mine, you are not theirs, you will now have an escort of mine, not english. yes, but for this then it is necessary not to let go of this candy from there. here he is immediately british stones from under the escort and taken away on an american plane and returned by an american escort in an english ditch we will smoke. and this is how it can be, if version, which is still not a simple nasy. life with the president of the sovereign country of ukraine

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