with creamy armies, the defense of moscow pressed the nazis without respite ukraine poland czechoslovakia city after city liberated konev but surprisingly his army left these cities practically untouched by an attack with surgical precision, for example, the same lvov was the same with prague of course. the same thing happened with so many polish cities, including there he believed that it was built by people, but it is better to preserve, of course, the monument to marshal konev in kirov , both a symbol of memory and a symbol of how the pages of history are initially deleted it was built by the poles and installed in krakow as a token of gratitude to konev for saving the city, but the ussr did not and decided to comply with the new western values ​​more that day in krakow, those who demolished the monument acted unceremoniously. first, marshal's right hand was cut off, then the cables were thrown right around the neck of the monument. someone from the locals pulled it out of the pedestal , wine began to pose for photographers such a block. has been thrown down. it

was such an emotional blow for me. it 's very hard, i think. well, we could somehow worthy to do. this is the noose around the neck. i say, we blame his father before the poles. no , he drove the nazis away from there, drove the killers away from there and did everything to make more free in 2020. the monument to konev was demolished and in prague they seemed to wait until there was practically no chekhov left who they remembered who marshal was for them who met him in the forty-fifth as a liberator, throwing thousands of bouquets of lilacs. on the footage of the chronicle of marshal konev, you can rarely see him at headquarters , always in the trenches, brushing off the dirt. overcoats. always surrounded by his soldiers, their devotion to the horses is easy to explain, he was one of them from a small northern village in the provincial vologda province, the house where ivan konev was born still stands. but it was built by grandfather marshal more than 150 years

ago, the hard peasant life, the daily work of the farm in the house of the horses, it was arranged in them, as technologically as possible. it 's called vzvoz with the help of neon, the second floor was hay delivered by horses. they were located on the first floor, food literally fell on them from above, but in order to drink two horses four cows and one piglet. young. ivan konev used such a well every day, crane he will receive the title of marshal in the 44th year, stalin will ask what he would like as a gift for new shoulder straps, the horse will answer the packing of dryers even then ivan stepanovich a living legend, but he always kept himself with simplicity a man from the people is ready to defend this people pyotr dyagin ekaterina belova and instructors alexei shishkin and deadvezutdinov and sergey filippov channel one. perm regional court today sentenced to life imprisonment the conclusion of timur bekmansurov, who

fired a freshman at a local university last fall. then he shot six people with a gun, more than 40 suffered during the arrest, he turned out to be resistance and was earlier in the course of the process bit mansurov fully admitted his guilt, given the gravity of the crime. the prosecutor insisted on the maximum punishment. parents of the deceased students were present in court today. they, like the state prosecutor, asked the court to send the killer to jail for life. despite all the precedent external pressure of the russian the economy survived, and in many areas it even showed noticeable growth. the preliminary results of the outgoing year were summed up today, the government, mikhail mishustin, noted the decisive , coordinated, fast work of all branches of government on time, the measures taken. according to him, they helped protect production and the domestic market. and in the coming years, the state will continue to support the economy. he wears a complex, summing up the preliminary results of the year in the economy. it can be said that the negative

forecasts of many western analysts did not come true yes 11 months gdp decline amounted to slightly more than two percent. in november, year-on-year growth is observed in construction. in agriculture. unemployment hit a historic low of 3.7%. this is largely the result of the work that has been done in the face of unprecedented sanctions in a condensed way. deadlines were secured. measures were taken that protected the russian market inside the russian market , external pressure supported the development of infrastructure in the regions, preserved the current production today, issues of assistance to participants were promptly resolved special military operation and a member of their families, active work is underway on the right to integrate four new territories into the russian federation. and today government representatives took part in the traditional

all-russian action. the wish tree, thanks to it, the cherished dreams of children come true, who , due to life circumstances, especially need support to help. maybe each promotion will last until the end of winter. she has already brought together a lot of people. including heads of state, parliamentarians , officials, a minister and a deputy prime minister, they removed balls from the christmas tree installed in the cabinet building. children from different cities will receive gifts and excursions, about which they dreamed. gleb sergey korzhavin, uh, dreams of meeting with the players of the spartak football club, an excellent wish, especially relevant. now after the end of the world cup, we will definitely organize an audience or dream about an excursion of the children's moscow radio studio samara region 6 years will be fulfilled. nikita is 5 years old. people's republic of donetsk dreams of a job, but on the way the robot will soon be on new territories yuri semkin. smolensk region

has been dreaming of visiting the fire station for 5 years dear yuri, your dream will definitely come true happy new year to meet a real cosmonaut, primorsky krai, 5 years old. i'm sure it all came true. moscow received a gift on the eve of the holiday ambulance in the capital today switched to a new standard of work on the territory of the veresaev hospital opened a stationary complex for receiving emergency patients doctors of different profiles in one place, convenient logistics and the most modern equipment. all this allows us to provide the full range of assistance from diagnostics to complex operations in the shortest possible time. or onishchenko saw. how it works we took a picture, we display it on the monitor through the control panel. and the surgeon. he immediately sees that he does not need to wait until they print pictures of such operating rooms in the country yet, and in the world of such units, it is enough to reach out to

get all the necessary information. the patient see the results of the study. and if necessary, contact colleagues for advice to doctors is a convenience. it's all near everything. we are all here all in one place. no, there is no need to transport it somewhere in the center, all this can be done in one single operating room. this is great. this has never happened before and we were really lucky. sergei sobyanin opened a new emergency inpatient complex on the territory of the veresaev city clinical hospital for the first patients. it will be accepted here at the beginning of next year. the system does not work with the patient to the doctor, but the doctor accompanying the patient at all stages, and all the logistics of movement and working with patients and a team of doctors creates a completely different atmosphere, a different speed of decision-making, the quality of medical decisions and the quality of medical care we are talking about about a million patients a year. this is a huge volume. and, of course, the whole whole uh,

clinical system, hospital system. it will work much better than just emergency ambulances. there is time here, especially when the patient is in the most difficult condition to save golden minutes. help the system three ah, that is, patients already with admission is distributed among the trium streams. on their own, they can go to the zone green, yellow, flow, patients on their own go yellow. well , it's moderate and life -threatening patients. the condition is a red flow without delay. they will also perform mri ct coronary angiography, check the vessels of the heart and brain, the most severe ones are urgently sent to the operating table, an absolutely innovation of an emergency center, a hybrid operating room at the same time. both cardio and neurosurgeons can work here to save patients with heart attacks and strokes equipment amazes even the most experienced specialists modern neuronavigation, ultrasound, a bloodless scalpel

capable of dissecting tissue without damaging blood vessels, such is indispensable for liver injuries in just a day, the new building can receive 200 emergency patients will be delivered by helicopter. we carry out transportation of patients with such diseases as a heart attack, that is, a huge number of patients are from the region. we deliver and we deliver a huge number of such patients, uh, from the new, annexed territories of moscow, uh, and during the day and at night, people need help around the clock and, in order for it to be timely , five more new emergency complexes will be launched in the capital yulia onishchenko dmitry vishneva boris leonov tatyana shilina sergeyevna schukin channel one. that's all for now we are following the development of events, and the information channel on the first will continue the program time will tell. hello, as part of the information channel

on the first program, time will tell. i'm artyom shenin, we work live. we are often in this studio and this is understandable, obviously we are talking about a very important, let's say, so broadly military, component of that confrontation, ah, both global and civilizational, and whatever else. name its military component really. a lot has been done in these 10 months. of course, more to be done. e. today we know that new combat missions are ready for the frigate a-a of the navy of the russian federation admiral gorshkov with zircons on board. vladimir putin spoke about this a week ago at a military colleague. and we see that open all over the country, uh, centers, uh, training, and i know, here some people whom i know from my trips to a to the area where i conduct my own, and many of them are

now passing tests in order to be instructors, and mishustin signed a decree that at sixteen universities will create military training centers, that is, roughly speaking, this is the military component. and we pull up, we build , we tune. and we are talking about the fact that well , here are some things that for a number of reasons we had a little bit unfinished unmanned press aircraft built a or being built e? full-cycle factories for the production of unmanned aerial vehicles, which we also talked about here, and that's all good. it's all right. all this is absolutely necessary, but at the same time we all understand that there are many others that make up this confrontation. and uh, economic, which we will talk about later today, and uh, if you like, such, but informational psychological ideological, which in modern conditions, taking into account the development of internet networks of development

all kinds of this digitalization, but actually becomes the most modern weapon on the level. well, uh, about this very bright one. it seems to me, as alexander andreyevich prokhanov actually always says, please. the information weapons of the enemy are hitting russia with continuous volleys, the information systems of multiple rocket launchers are burning out unprotected areas in today's russian public consciousness. and psi weapons, sowing in the minds of doubt, distrust, and panic are opposed by the people of the russian government. the information weapon is an achievement of the modern west with the help of which, without a single shot, it was possible to destroy the soviet union in fact. this is very important, and the front , and i think it is necessary to talk about it. we will do this today, because again, my personal experience and communication with people here and communication with people in the war

zone suggests that sometimes about some kind of incomprehensible things on the information front. why is it so? why? that's right, what's going on? why don't we do, why? we do not do this, but these are the questions. why? they are asked at least. and maybe more often than questions about, and some, so to speak, shortcomings in the purely military sphere, so this is a very important story. we will talk right after the commercial. let them talk tomorrow at the first cocktail global village 1190 pyaterochka helps out and prices are lowered tail small claws, medium, and huge january.

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whatever you want alexander andreyevich prokhanov wrote very brightly about it, that in any case it is a weapon, a weapon that is very well wielded. uh, west and which hits us no weaker than a jewel howitzer. and what’s more, this is a very important topic, because, well, if we go over the last 100 years of our history there , then we are really very, uh, a little more than 100. we are very good and clear we will see that and when russia cannot assemble internally ideologically, let's say psychologically, and we lose, and we didn’t lose the first world war at the front, but i felt great about it many western historians write, but we lost it here in the rear, and in the ninety-first year of us. in general, no one won, not a single shot was fired at us since the year 1986 from within. well , sometimes even, as it were, in the back, but they began to

fire at this informational psychological weapon and heard if then there was enough stand in the newspapers moskovskie novosti, ogonyok magazines and several more publishing publications, we can imagine . what volleys are being fired now, and what is more, informational and moreover, uh, well, taking into account the fact that there is, uh, the internet, so this is the most important topic for us of this informational ideological psychological mobilization. whatever you want to call it, but call it i have already told in the program many times what, indeed. here are even the guys at the front, about which every day there is danger and shelling and fighting. they often ask questions. they don't understand what's going on. they say what's going on behind your lines. why this one says this, and he is there , they ask me. and that these people will all return, they say, they don’t only worry me about those who fled from the mobilization, but they ask less about some stars there. well, the recent stars of the past, like they say, from what, here they are, as it were, right now they took everything and left. well, yes, i say and left. and

that's where they drive us from there. well, yes, they drive. and what, like they want to come back, i don’t know what to answer, ah, but it's not just about those who left, the fact is that there are a lot of such things here. well, the day before yesterday i, in my opinion, spoke about the situation, there in the moscow region, kurkino, where some people who support a special military operation want to establish the letter z with the russian flag with the flag of moscow well, as a symbol of support for the population, who really have our war, warring guys, and local municipal deputies are doing everything to demolish this story so that this does not happen, as to that. wandering, do we have this one, if we have this one, uh history, our own alien, have we finally developed a language in society in which we can? so how do you mark it? well, there ours are not ours, how to treat them, but considering. in general, all sorts of different episodes in our history, so as not

to go beyond some boundaries, but in an amazing way. eh, today. uh, just, and dmitry anatolyevich medvedev also touched on this topic in his telegram channel, uh, in which he, well, he speaks out, so to speak always very tough and cheerful. and just on the same topic there, well, such a whole post is pretty tough. well, i chose, uh, such a fragment, and he writes that traitors who hate their country so much that they call for its defeat of death should be considered as enemies of society, regardless of legal qualifications, and it should gain a foothold for them. or not. only one of the points, but for me, i’m here today, when i reacted to this, i wrote, among other things, here you can discuss methods. what kind choose to apply some markers to them, so to speak, and so on. for me, this suggests that at the level, well, at the municipal level with

this socket, and at the level, quite, completely in the upper echelons of power, where dmitry anatolyevich is located, well, it’s obvious to everyone that this language is not in society yet this scheme there are no criteria for our own alien and how to relate to it, and they, probably, should appear in the tenth month, because we have to somehow for ourselves. well, develop your attitude. it's true. dmitry anatolyevich writes more about those who left. well, yes, the question naturally arises. here is an example. e, shulman, notorious, who, er, will read there while being. uh, he will read abroad, there will be a lecture on how pushkin saw the new russian colonies, what they really were, which means colonial prose and so on, but that's okay, but, for example, how to relate to a citizen of the russian federation larina who is not here, but to speak,

for example, here is a text. the question is different, where will i be in what? in which country do i want to return to, uh, this new russia that i don’t know putin, we will remove it, for example, and all this is a gang-watering can. and what are we going to do with these people, with these people, with these people who supported such a large number of people. this is a crime, where are we going to spend their money? that is, they are already considering, it is clear that many have told me. well, listen, well, you found someone, it means to quote, she has long been and before that and before that it was clear that she was crazy, that she was a russophobe. and that and in general you listen to someone, but that's not the point. the thing is, there are a lot of people like her. i'm here for you cited, for example, here, in principle, in this very municipal council of deputies, there, in fact, people who write about the same texts in their social networks, and they don’t leave here. they have the ability to somehow influence something. even at a small level,

the question of how to relate to this or not to relate to it in any way is a high-breach. it 's important nonetheless and, uh, it's also important because it really raises a lot of questions for people, and for those who support a special military operation of those who support, and our russian authorities, and, well, these occasions appear periodically. well , for example, for the last few days there has been such a story quite noisy in the telegram channels about the fact that the deputy. from the moscow city duma, he posted a certain text, which, and he attributes akhedzhakova to an actress, but to an actress who, to be honest, has long been known for being ashamed of her country all the time. i'm always ashamed of the russians. i'm always ashamed of russia and all the time for something here ashamed, well, ashamed and ashamed. here he is wondering why she said. eh, these words that i quote here, why does she still continue to perform? i must immediately make a reservation here.

well, and therefore, a whole discussion arises about it, someone says, yes, really, like, what the hell, which means that she and people like her continue to say and act like that, others say, no, you need to share what she says, and what she thinks of psv and the way she performs on stage, if people want to come see, well, they have the right. i must immediately make a reservation. for me, this is an important point. i did not find it anywhere, looking for honest confirmation. the fact that she really wrote this somewhere, and akhedzhakova herself claims that she does not have social networks. she really doesn’t have social networks, so i can’t say that she really wrote the question somewhere else, the question is that when these words sound. how tired i am of this imaginary greatness of russia, i want to come to ukraine after her victory and so on, there are defenders of this position, for example, today on this occasion, but spoke. uh,

our bloody ladies, and ksenia anatolyevna here, who, uh, wrote. and why not just admit that there are people who share these views, i emphasize. i don’t know whether these views were hijacked or not, but ksenia sobchak says that why don’t you enter into a dialogue with people with such views, that is, in fact, he says that such a position can also and should. five and you would need to start with them somehow. uh, dialogue and more than that to think about the fact that they have not yet been presented in power. and this is actually the hardest question. and to which, well, judging by the fact that medvedev began to think about it today publicly, there is no answer yet, and there must be some criteria that are understandable to everyone. this can, uh, such points of view are good, there are a lot of them, i will demonstrate them, then it may sound a lot, it can not sound how we should relate to this. and how should we

position ourselves in relation to them, and so on , the worst thing, please e, let's for start. eh yes get back a little technical terms. just since we're working out the approach. here , uh, so. uh, when we talk about informational psychological warfare, and in particular about informational psychological special operations, we must understand that this is the same kind of war as everything else, the rest is possible. tough and you need to understand that from the other side, specialists in information-psychological operations sit in the same headquarters as specialists in military operations, and here i am, for example, watching. uh, uh, social media every time after another big shelling donetsk is sown on behalf of the allegedly disappointed residents of donetsk with pro-russian views that uh, uh, russia was going to defend, but did not protect.

in the twenty-second year, many more residents were killed than in the twenty-first. here is the seed. uh, it automatically falls out every time and in general, uh, it's easy for a specialist to notice that this is a crop. uh, what exactly does it work on the other side. uh, here, but they are very well imitated by uh, disappointed indignant residents, donetsk distinguish. a situation when a person expresses views and opinions and a situation when a person, being of certain views and opinions, is broadcast, uh, someone's information line, yes, the parties, being, being, yes, an accomplice, being a participant in this very informational psychological war on and here that's the point, that's the point, that's the only way to actually prove it. it's just uh, through there

hacking. uh, what a hack job to crack open. uh, let's say distributing technicians to certain people and getting them a task. that today we drown for it. yes. today today we are talking, uh, everything, that's it, and that, yes, it will be a proof. it will be a fact confirming, but until then, this is not the case. we can only make assumptions based on circumstantial evidence. uh, so fixing or diagnosing? well, look, and you are right in saying that it is necessary to break into temniks , it is necessary to determine who is working for the enemy. and who is it sculpts as they say from the heart? well , for example, larin, which i showed me, for example, it is quite obvious that larin and no temnik is needed. she is still herself these temnikov will write russophobic. why did i start? why did i start moreover, she left, and many such larins are here, artyom. why i started talking about terms further, it means that there are just agents, but there are agents of influence , uh, that is. what is the difference. agents influence from simple agents. it's just that an agent is a person on a mission. he performs tasks and

receives a resource for this. and the agent of the level is for the sake of the soul, these are people who are ideologically indoctrinated, who may not even receive a task from anyone there and even not receive no there, uh, salaries. although often, uh, here. well, somehow. well, that side is finding ways through third parties to support their agents of influence to give someone a bonus. uh, pull out somewhere in the rating to call. someone out there means the conscience of the nation? yes, through third parties in our country, and there, the best journalist in our country is perfectly able to create stars from their agents of influence to pump them up. eh, in such a way that you won't even, well, dig. yes indeed a person. uh, that's agents, influence acts autonomously. yeah. but uh, so, uh, when you when planning an information-psychological special operation, you take into account, among other things, how your agents and influence will help you

replicate the signal that you are launching. here you are simply able to predict from projecting how she will behave and you don’t even have to give her a task. you talk very interestingly about how it works, from the other side of those who load these ideological information guns . enemy artillery, caliber, its shells. guidance scheme, but my question is about that. and what do we have with dugouts with shelters, what do we have, in this sense, with counter-battery combat, because we are talking about the fact that yes, we know that they use such calibers and such calibers and such calibers on such a grid and on such a grid someone for money , someone for an idea, and then i ask, and we have a clear system here, where we are in the trenches. where do we answer and so on. how should we treat this? for example, medvedev writes, there, uh, these people should be appropriately marked, and on them this one should mean to remain an enemy

of the state, and so on and so forth. i ask ok, let's say they are marked. and what's next? let's do it, uh, we're in this war for now. here in this area did not come at all. here we understand the information war, exclusively, how to disperse the positive and support our citizens with the feeling that he is behind us, the truth is behind us, the strength. we will win soon. eh, that's all. the rest is enemy propaganda this is the only signal we have been broadcasting for 10 months. it's not enough to talk medvedev says that you are already talking about the fact that some kind of strategy, especially operations or even tactics. we are in this direction for now. they didn’t even think there was partisanism. there are bloggers, military correspondents, some who are trying to do this. what is called homemade? but there are many, which means that some blogger or even a group of bloggers is strategizing there. uh, yes, at home at the computer and a cup of coffee. eh, and that's conditional. if we take medvedev's proposal, then for

they should be followed, for example, he, if anyone forgot, is still leading us, for example, the united russia aga party, which has a majority in the state duma. here the united russia party with its majority in the state duma is taken and a law is passed. uh, it means that, uh, people, uh, who fall under such criteria, oh, whom he speaks of, are amazed in such and such and such and such rights. e, here, that is, after these statements should appear. legislative initiatives and at least parliamentary hearings, uh, about it in the house. yes, let's see how to make sure that those who do not need not get, so that, well, that is, in short, through the law to turn into legal. no, i 'm talking about the tool that dmitry anatolyevich has besides his telegram on here's how he can make this statement turn it into concrete actions. and so it is also a multi-domain war. this is a war in the legislative sphere, yes, and in the application of law, that is, power

and information, that is, in and at the level civil society. that is, they shouldn't. well, of course, such houses of culture should be inundated with letters from indignant citizens with demands. uh, it means not to give a platform to people who express such and that is, uh, well, then you need to prove that she expressed this, you know, and it begins. she is already filing a lawsuit somewhere, because a lot is attributed to her, and then we are all in the mud in the legal one. you are all casuistry, well, we will all drown there and well and well, because this in itself is all this legal reality is what the west always hits us with. eh, what is it. eh, they even burn the witch. eh, and then according to the law about, look about, and about we see a tourniquet. and so on. once again, here i am, well, today it so happened that in the morning i started a post about this zeta in kurkino, and then a post by dmitry anatolyevich appeared, then another sobchak. i wrote a lot about this today, as if writing and

thinking accordingly. well, you see, here's the story. and here we are talking about witches burning. well, okay, let's say they don't burn, because i don't bring it. what is it like positive example. well, for example, we take here the ukrainian society, yes, zombified. yes, it is twisted there, yes, brought to the point. eh, well, there is anything and so on and so forth, but there are, as it were, understandable, and their own and understandable strangers and an understandable mechanism. what awaits you if you did something against the fact that any society, such as they consider unacceptable to a pole , will be tied with a stick on the ass, kicked, kicked more and will come up to peck and so on. once again i say, i do not say that it is example. i'm not saying that it should be. i'm talking about the fact that in ukrainian society , of course, with a madman, but nevertheless, there is, and the story in which this system of friend or foe is clear to everyone, what will happen if you, for example, say something

there about a vsu, there, and so on, right? now to the question. you say legally. look here about the fact that there are people. eh, when it is necessary, and when it is not necessary to tie to poles. he kneels there, well, some completely medieval dope. we are starting a discussion. and here is one of ours who did not leave anywhere. and that means a literary critic. i am so my very educated and intellectual man philosopher. as i understand it, widely known in literary circles. well, anyway, i read this story. here is zakhar prilepin, who wrote about this a few days ago. and here is someone to this highly intellectual person, a philosopher of literature, and so on somewhere, apparently, in the correspondence they ask a question, listen, well, what about in ukraine? type, no matter how horror not a manifestation of the fact that they have lost their minds, now. listen to what a russian philosopher or territory intellectual answers. e on this argument, please.

i don't think that they tie everyone in a row, they tie the most prominent collaborators. this can be accompanied and in all likelihood is accompanied by mistakes and overlaps, but the one who started the war is to blame, you understand, that is, for me this is a manifestation of the fact that a person being here says that even if some e, what any abomination then this an abomination, firstly, most likely, not such an abomination. and secondly, guilty, but anyway, not they, but to blame. all the same, those who started the war, and i have no doubts here. this is a question of arisprudence, because further i think, i wonder what he means. here i am what can be presented to this person according to the system of his alien zakhar rightly writes that, well, probably in this situation. uh, this very schubert must assume that if he is somewhere, which means how thoughtfully he will say something there he smoked about belonging, for example, then he admits that he, too, can be tied to a

pole and hit with a stick on the back. but we are well aware that in our society, which he considers to be a society. orcs. he knows very well that he is not in danger. he knows perfectly well that nothing threatens him for his quite clearly, expressed in another, so to speak, statement on the social networks of the opposition, in which, as it were, everything about him becomes. obviously normal people. everyone is on the same side of the accusations from the zetas, it's not even worth listening to. let them go lower, and russia will be our tone, now i ask. that's how it is, you say here are the legislators. now i continue to ask and ask me. this person is here. he writes this and sends it to everyone. well, not all of us, but at least many of us who send everything to a certain place for this, writes russia will be ours. that is, he openly opposes himself to us. at the same time , you understand that he does not risk anything, like a pillar. no one will tie him down. i

ask in the state or in society should there must be some mechanisms to influence him, so that he thinks if he should say it or if he should not say it, or let all the flowers bloom. in general, i think that everything that is connected with this psychological war or struggle on purpose, just it has been changed. now propagandists used to. this was called propaganda decomposition of the enemy troops is now called the psychological warfare officer. yes, but i think it's in the health sector. this is ultimately our reaction to such and such or other manifestations. it depends on the severity of the offense. it would be strange if in healthcare everything would be reduced to surgery or the opposite of therapy, both must be present and depend on how far the metastasis has gone. if we are talking about the

statements that you just quoted, then it is difficult for me to imagine that on this basis we would tie to a pole or send places not so remote, we must fight against this in the same way as we fight against us, if a person, uh, who expresses such thoughts, picks up machine gun and confronts us on the battlefield, then it is pointless for us to engage in social networks in the modern world. sometimes they can do more damage in terms of coverage than the machine. so, there is no other way, in my opinion, but to work in social networks so that there is on this network front. the victory was ours. well, like this, as a special propagandist special propagandist. yes, that's how you will work with him in social networks, everything is clear to him. he does not hide his position. you are for him. where are you going to where he sends everyone for it everything. and that you will work with him, firstly. uh, if i’m sure that it’s

absolutely pointless for me to appeal to him because i can’t convince him, then first of all it’s important for me who he influences, and whom he joins in his ranks and in his opinion. i have to fight for these people, if it is already pointless to convince him with him, this story is in fact repeated in our great history, not for the first time, not for the first time. i want to remind you that as a result of the october february october revolution of the civil war millions of people ended up outside the just soviet union, then great russia would like to ask, but today their descendants. they are whose allies for the most part there in their places of residence. those who have kept. er, well, some idea of ​​kinship with us is mostly on our side. it is surprising but true, because they remained russian, because they remained russian, and moreover, those who were directly involved then. fight, well, damn it, denikin,

but he was forced to leave france for america because he refused to cooperate with hitler and on the other hand. and krasnov is an employee, and on the other hand there was also krasnov. that is, in each case, this is a very serious issue. and it seems to me that, taking into account the experience of our country in the fight against the enemies of the people and everyone else, we need to understand the boundaries and red lines here. i absolutely agree, but we have many facets. here i want to tell you. here i want to tell you. after all, quite recently i talked about this and would write about it, i spoke, for example, i made an article that we won’t have and said that we can’t afford to tie civilians to poles. so i'm not talking about that. i'm talking about the fact that there was a reaction in a certain part of the networks . oh you scoundrel traitor. i'm going to carry a knife in the back of the president and in general a special military operation, because you express such too deep, that's why he and and i felt

enlisted in a squad of traitors who are fighting against at all. although i would it would seem difficult for me to imagine that i am not now in favor of victory for the need for consolidation for what was internal unity, but there are already people who look further know and read your article and with much agreement, but, but it is very easy to succumb to a psychologist, but what is my point. in any case, i know this from my environment, which is quite large there, veteran army, and so on, many of them have the point of view as you described it, the extreme no-no-no, they all talk about what needs to be tied to poles and that do something like that not because they want to tie to poles. for them, this is the only way to say that you are you don't do anything else. that is, they talk about what is there, yes, this is wrong, but they are doing at least something. and you say, they are good for me, because i am responsible for everything. i also have a button right here

directly, what is there for the supreme, apparently, everyone thinks so. and you say he doesn't do anything to me. you are just chatting, but they are as they were, as they are, and you can do nothing with them. i can’t be positive, of course, today we held our institute of the cis countries held a conference, the history of russia is united, continuous to the centenary of the ussr in 2 days 100 years of the soviet union at the official level, we announced that we will not celebrate from there, because there are different points of view , some believe, for example, the communists, that this is a glorious period in the life of our country and many others believe that russia was robbed for the benefit of the soviet union, they came up with e, self-determination up to secession. today we are facing the consequences of this in ukraine, but i want to say, that's why, in fact, we do not understand that for some people who are outside of russia the soviet past remains perfect, and we could

not, generally speaking, take upon ourselves at this moment, even if a little cunning, but say that yes, here is the soviet one , you remember how we lived, how good it was, how we are together, fought and so on. why move away from this, because in fact everything that happens in ukraine and in the west, where savitation is equating the soviet union with fascist germany why are we not fighting and confronting this? this is something true of the grandmother who came out to our troops. she came out with a russian flag listers. yes victory well, at least on this part of the population, in order to influence, here is an example of how you need to fight for your positives, including positive ones. yes, but, nevertheless, this is the question of , you know, we started this conversation again, and i understand that here we are. i understand all the facets, i understand all the dangerous trends. where can we fall down if we get carried away, i understand perfectly well. what, uh, so to speak? everyone immediately remembers, there is the thirty -seventh year and that's it. they remember the forty-

ninth year, that we’ll start, we won’t stop and so on and so forth. yes, i say, of course, but on the other hand, other people tell me. well, you don't do anything. you are so afraid of falling into some extremes that you have the impression that with you this is how he talks and talks, and larina talks, and i’m sure that larina e is not considered an inogen. there she is not an agent. to her no. no complaints. the law will want to return and no one will do anything to her. many of them have already begun to roam back and forth. well, yes. sorry anyway. i want to add look should be gradation certain. if you've done this, then it follows. that's really it, if you think that it is possible to adopt, for example, a law that will automatically separate without any effort on your part. eh, lambs. this will never happen. after all, from the very beginning i said that this is what i am talking about, despite the importance of legislative work. i'm not very sure that this is the path through which we are. i say again, i don't quote, this

is an example. well, for example, there in the same united states. here they went crazy there. there, in their own way, lgbt people and everyone without any legislation know perfectly well, if you say something, then right there, if they don’t fire you, then at least you will be subjected to sharpism, but if you say something wrong about whites, they won’t fire anything according to the law does not present. well, somehow it suddenly turns out that you are not moving anywhere. this is called social mechanisms of influence. here it is, as if the system would give another example. bring. excuse me for god's sake have you ever been to a school whose class declared a fight there, and i was aha there were a couple of cases. such here lower grades, fair unfair no matter, fat boy already you say that the majority is not always right. no, i'm not talking about that. i'm talking about some kind of influence on me, it turns out terrible, so terrible, because if you don't have a really developed civil society, which already

without any laws can put in place. it will replace any law. about any law will replace you understand? develop this civil society. inspire him to be right, and he will do everything for you, and here is the question, which i am asking about. today we have, at least in its infancy, a civil society that, on the one hand, is able to set some public, well , criteria so that, well, somehow people think what to say or not to say at all, without slipping into persecution . or is there some or we don’t have it yet, and if not, then can we create it and we need a society for this and we understand everything perfectly, and we have an ethnic system that has been preserved for centuries that saves our country. she's not moral not to do anything, but we need to help, because we understand that the information war has technologies, they are understandable. they are known. they are

studied to have objective criteria. that's when dmitry anatolyevich medvedev writes about hosting the republic from e. enemies of the state. yes, let's remember that in another country they were called er, umel and there were laws on april 22 of the second year. remember such a month with real. and there it was very objectively written in these laws what i was doing, for what people who said so would go to the guillotine. everything was there, especially in the french revolution with the guillotine, i will explain everything objectively. this is the second time. that is, we can tie to poles for ukraine, everything today, it is simply rolled up, it continues to work. there is such a thing as the home of the beginning of moretz and the punishment of oblivion, so it also works very well for those who left, so that never songs that never

sounded, never and so on, who should know to take care of the implementation of this law of the state. so what is next. now wait. well, this is also very interesting. speak to donativa moretz here, some say over there. uh, pugacheva left there, i answer this. let who wants. now she throws, and there pugacheva left with slippers on the screen pugacheva's songs did not stay here with me forever, but she is thirteen years old. i'm not going to give up songs that have been a part of my life. it should also disappear from the information field, we should not discuss it at all. never anywhere else in the case of pugacheva, in general, she did not give much attention to this matter, she was taken aside. and now, for example, you should discuss it. no, wait, work with information. for some reason we see this information. here in the same muzzle book , facebook is banned in russia, yes, for some reason, uh, it is still here somehow. eh yes, how

can you fight a zuckerberg. if he manages we won't be able to on this field. so you need all this information, you need to clean it up, you understand. you are better than me, for sure. you understand, as if after bauman, that, technically, we cannot ban and ban facebook . and here it comes, just the 4th direction of society, our society should understand who we are fighting with, who are they? why are they fighting, uh, against us. yes, we must constantly explain who they are, we must maintain our moral system, our ethical system of protecting the values ​​of the state of the family, motherland and so on. and with every word that you say, i have only one question, how i disagree, because in a sense thatcher is right when he says that society does not exist. uh, when i hear the phrase society should i have a question, uh, society - who is this?

who? means? eh, this very e debtor? here to whom you can come to present, here you are dear society must be who we are, that is, uh, just when we see a company of public harassment in the states about which, uh, it was not some one who spoke here. the tract society, and these are quite specific non-profit organizations whose statutory goals are the struggle for the rights of lgbt people, the struggle for the rights of people of color there and so on. here they have this statutory activity, they collect money for it, and they, when it means, they have a reason, they open fire from all guns on those who who are you already a violation of the general line , or here i am, what i want to say about these of yours. uh, here, tied to a pole, photographs are a lure, but there the horror is that they do not have a state and therefore the monopoly was inflicted. don't understand to whom and this violence from

the outside, don't understand whom it is not clear on the basis, therefore they said that i said that violence should remain with the state on the field, but everything that concerns non -violent forms. uh, informational psychological struggle. the state has a monopoly on this. no not absolutely not necessary be a state in order to introduce non-violent information-psychological companies to raise funds for them to create organizations that set their goals so that no uh, so uh, rice bastard, uh uh, never get. uh, there is no platform on and if suddenly, uh, someone gave her such a platform, then it means that rotten tomatoes threw him in the net, let's, then i will play the lawyers did, but you understand very well that in this case, and such organizations, and they will immediately begin to attract in order to reduce scores, and that means between some artistic clans, musical clans, and some other clans and uh, there will

be some supposed statements that they either said or didn’t say, and we are again in something like this you understand the dirt, but i look at this old argument, it’s correct that we have corruption everywhere and i didn’t say these, too, these are also the most some kind of information there. accounts, well, yes, this will be to some extent. and what can you think of these right fighters. uh means colored uh, or lgbt people don't take any bribes to scam the hungry, as if in a competitive struggle there is one firm against another, yes, they also take it, and this will also happen, and this should be treated as natural. uh. well, that is, how afraid volkov is not to go into the forest of reorganization, which you are talking about, in your opinion, they should appear, but under some kind of state control, or let all the saints bloom again. they must appear by law, there must be legislation that works so that they can work and carry out

collect their statutory activities, including collecting money for it, including carrying out activities with this money and reporting to those who support them. let’s donate their position to them, how the donator looks now. yes, help. this is exactly how these organizations should be created. what kind of, if i understand correctly, and in this direction are some kind of people's squads, which, uh, well, only now i'm not very forms of information-psychological warfare. here is a very, very tough training of personnel, how we take their textbooks, we translate them into russian, adapt them to our cultural code, listen, how do we prepare drone operators, take ukrainian benefits. here we are rewriting them , adapting them to our stations and doing the same thing , i understand, and the drones of this technique, where, like, nuts, screws and microcircuits, and we kind of, sort of, how we started it all, based on

what we say that our head and soul are arranged, as it were, differently than theirs, and their values ​​are different than theirs. now we will take their textbook and follow our values. it technologies. this is it, that is, everything that concerns war, including informational psychological, this is a set of technologies, techniques , methods. like peter the great yes, and at the end i agree to raise one for our teachers after. here, technology fight technology without technology fight technology between the fingers, it is absolutely curious that chadaev began by saying who is civil society it is not, and then described what civil society should actually do to create this kind of public initiative organizations and so on that has been said. what what is a society. i do not understand, yes, what is citizenship is a manifestation of civil society. at the same time, it is clear that it is necessary to protect against extremes and prohibit those who, for example, created a committee down with the traitor, from engaging in lynching. yes , but at the same time, i will believe that the committee managed to transfer it here, or in which, relatively speaking,

i will name the name, which now, well, will not cause anyone any doubts dmitry likhachev academician, if he becomes the head of such a society, and he will bear his judgment, who is the traitor, i will believe him. and if some yesterday's unknown person, on the basis that he shouted loudly to everyone, will expose everyone. here i will be with there must be a moral authority that has the right to such assessments, i see. well, in general, it seems to me that this is the situation when it is difficult to start this conversation; to end it even more difficult, because, of course, it is woven from the mass many nuances. yes, but uh, though, but and so on and so forth, we still have no choice but there’s no need to start discussing this, because as i completely agree with my colleagues from above , no one will let it down for us, everything from above cannot, and, as it were, if it itself sprouts from below without control, it’s also unknown what can, therefore, apparently we are talking about some kind of self-organization ,

perhaps, but the healthy parts of society, probably, so now advertising will talk about the economy later. you are talking about four regions, are you talking about these regions within their administrative boundaries, or that part of the territory that today is under the real control of the state of russia no i i’m talking, of course, about their borders within the russian federation, russia will still have to be fateful, of course, do you believe, based on what you know, that indeed in washington, someone with real power is developing plans to strike at the russian leadership, the threat was voiced by the west overcomes its own taboos that were set a few months ago. we asked the americans. now, in my opinion, democrats in the american sense. this is someone who is loyal to the

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will tell, i said at the very beginning of the broadcast that in addition to all the importance of the unconditional military , let's say the military-applied front, and in the modern world in the modern global modern information a-a world no less important are the technologies of information warfare of psychological ideological confrontation, and certainly. of course, the economy, moreover, it has already been said more than once that, well, within the framework of the confrontation in which we are now we are, in fact, the main blow to us and how a blitzkrieg was planned, but it was on the economic front that he thought about us. well , actually, and in general because of its importance and due to the fact that at the end of the year there is somehow some kind of depression to sum up some results and the most important thing is to ask questions, what the coming year has in store for us, let's see what we have on this economic front, and today the prime minister, and said that in general. on the hmm economic front,

things aren't that bad for us at all. as predicted us our enemies, please. summing up the preliminary results of the year in the economy, we can say that the negative forecasts of many western analysts did not come true. well, right away, uh, i’ll quote two of these very western experts and analysts, because, well, it’s better to confirm the words. and such, as it were, by the opinion, really of these western ones, but of experts and analysts, who, well, as it were, are really now in some surprise about the state of our economy, please believe. the russians are getting ready to celebrate the new year, and moscow does not give the impression of a military city. it goes against the idea of ​​a country in economic crisis and under fiercely promulgated western sanctions. how did it happen that the russian economy feels surprisingly good,

most western firms continue to operate in the country, and the rest transferred their assets to russian buyers by reminding those in charge of the economy that their job is to minimize the negative effects of western sanctions. as you can see today, they this and did the same as the medium entrepreneurs, many of whom even benefited a lot. so the article is called dizeshatn lita, haltfudnsvirchatn one feels that they are completely broken ranks of their e, scattered. and even to translate it is impossible, because it is here. well, they almost have tires, and let's say one more thing, but the publication is one of those that predicted something not very good for us, but now it’s really in some kind of bewilderment, please. some economists believed that the big end for russia might not come before 2023, the international monetary fund predicted a contraction of the country's economy by

8-9%. according to the estimates of the international monetary fund, next year the russian economy will shrink by only two and three percent, but all forecasts agree that the russian economy will not be brought to its knees by sanctions and in 2023, in fairness, of course, with some effort. one could also find western analysts who say completely different things, that they are already on the verge on the verge and so on and so forth, but still more it is interesting that yesterday, as it were, i read in the program yesterday, today, in principle, and we have many of our, uh, analysts specialists, which means they write that well, like, guys, of course, you are now so happy, but this is you've had enough. some kind of pillow, e security. but now, right now, everything will begin with you, which means, how to be blown away. ah, all the more so, they say, what are they, with oil, uh, you just have just now, which means that the price ceiling has come into effect. and you still have ahead of you to limit prices for

gas. and here you are, walking and walking so cheerfully. and now, here’s how they’ll slap you around and that means you’ll stop smiling, especially since all these discussions took place against the backdrop of the fact that yesterday vladimir putin signed the very decree on counteraction. here are the ceilings, and prices, and prices m-m prices after that oil prices went. a-a up and someone says that someone says well for us. well, in general , everything is as always, but someone says that the client is more likely alive, someone says that the client is more like a mile away, that this is just the beginning. what does it mean, uh, everything, the most is yet to come, and so on. now the question arises. and indeed, we are now entering, as it were, into a certain band. well, when these same measures will be more tangible, and so on. we are talking about this and probably. we are right that they also bear their great burden of these restrictions that they impose on us, but they are not like sugar for us, and then the question arises, after all, who can

say that? in your opinion, this year the most important one has put up better, who has what prospects for the next one, well, we put up wonderful. yes, and you know the economy at 95% is common sense 3% is the fall of meteorites something like that. if not, common sense. it 's not economics anymore. this is already politics. this is colonism, it's anything, but not the economy. here we are now regaining common sense yeah, and returning sovereignty in the economy and can be viewed by objective criteria. not here blinkered by politics. yes , because he wrote a little more that the west has always studied russia and through hatred e increased by ignorance. uh-huh, and it came out yesterday report to the central bank. there is a law on the website of the central bank. e poll. e for industrial production, it turns out that our energy consumption has remained at the time

of last year. energy consumption is the main criterion for what happens to the economy, if the economy collapses, energy consumption falls, we really have reduced production in the raw material sector , this is understandable because there is a limitation, but at the same time we received more money, because energy prices have risen and will continue to rise. while the skeptics are talking. and oh, i'll soon say, they're all this, that's when we look, uh, at the oil quotes here on the chart, this is just the tip of the iceberg, you have to look, what's behind them is behind these quotes. and when those who have the opportunity to open bloomberg, let's say, look at the data of the internationaler, the stock exchange, who are the sellers, who are buying or contracts and the picture is amazing, the sellers are those who drove oil, they played for a fall in oil, these are financial speculators who do not have not a drop of oil, they have now opened positions for sale the maximum s e for more than a year is the maximum with the other two categories

of participants. these are oil, oil producer and oil traders. oil traders are all balanced oil producers have reduced the sale of contracts on the exchange, which means that speculators will have nowhere to go , the date will come, supplies will have to buy it back, plus we see that in the world oil consumption. so uh, growing and uh, the forecast for next year barrels. there is a deficit of 102 million barrels per day. now the shortage of oil application is 1.5 million barrels, it replenished from storage. from stocks. next year's deficit of 2 million barrels per day of depleted storage will get you sign the rise in prices, so e him the forecast is the forecast of those who are really savvy. eh, that's objectively, that 120-150. that is. you, if i understand you correctly. in general, i love it when i tell you about it, because it’s wildly interesting, you understand almost nothing, but you

try to grab some ponytails, as it were . and the meaning is not that it is not there, but it is worth it, well, i don’t have a tool, but i i understand correctly that you are telling me that in the coming year the consequences of restrictions on oil may hit us. almost stronger than the nation? well, exactly, because look, it creates an imbalance. here, when there is a surplus, it is a surplus everywhere, but a deficit can arise locally, including in those european price centers. uh, for the same thresh, and if our partners china india are those who do not participate in the anti-russian sanctions, everything will be balanced for them, because they continue with us to cooperate, then the lack of our oil is even half a million barrels 500,000 barrels. it will be enough to stabilize everything there. and no saudis, no one will be able to stabilize. it's back. especially since opek perfectly understands that if in the form of a cap on oil prices, they will be next if the russian reserves have frozen them. they will be next, and the americans have already

shown how they can freeze their reserves. why did they all decide to start trading oil for yuan with china for yuan, and this is destroying the same the oil dollar, what the hegemony of the dollar was based on since the 1970s, so you as a common sense economics man. they are in the economy of speculation and guru politics. but it is you who earn this guru, but blow. that's how it works. yes, it works, yes, you work, as it were, just with a hobby like this, that is, you enter this year with optimism and in this sense you are already invited. that's about the same program at the end of december 23, when this conversation weighs we are with you, well, how would reproduce and how would you tell me the word explain it happened. so this does not mean that we will not meet in the middle. i’m just saying that this is about your optimism, because i ’m saying something, that when i read all this, but i, in this sense, like a small child, yes, that is, my grandmother told me a fairy

tale there, and grandfather another fairy tale and do you know which one to believe? and when i read these forecasts, like they say, everything is cool, everything is clear, the economy of common sense. here we will scream here they will scream themselves, then you start reading others. eh, such oh oh kids. all these stories are just beginning. this is so easy for you, freezing, by the way, a lot of these conversations. yesterday it was just in the framework of the discussion of what deputy prime minister of the russian government alexander belousov said about the mobilization economy here, that this is very sorry andrey belousov and about the mobilization economy, because everyone understood it in the exact opposite way. well, let's hear what he really is. searched, then discuss. i think that it makes no sense for us to create a mobilization economy now. we simply won't be able to do it, but we have a sufficient number of reserves and levers that we can use to solve the tasks set by the president and

life itself is the concept of a mobilization society. and the mobilization economy is a part of the mobilization society. knew what he was saying. and? well, here, of course, we are very similar to the irish in this sense, when there are two irish people, there are three points of view, someone says that this is just a conversation about the fact that there will be no mobilization economy, because everything is gone, someone says that nothing is missing, and we still do not need it in the form of a mobilization economy, because we , as if without they say what they say about mobilization, no matter how you want it. you are sure someone is ready for this, which means that subscribers sent me to telegram today. so these posters are like this, that is, here, and our understanding of the social economy is like this such, yes, and what, like, without this we cannot survive, or we survive there, and so on from the point of view, in general, the possibility of the need for a mobilization economy. what it is? moreover

, it is connected with the mobilization of society. there are different points of view. here is a specialist for you, and as far as i know, respected in the relevant circles, which are about the mobilization economy. he says much more in such a calm, balanced tone than the authors of all these posts about voznesensky and about these boards, please. over thirty recent years our lives in the so -called market economy. it can also be compared to throwing stones. now it 's time to collect them, we need to mobilize the entire economy and banking, in particular. here we are with all these conversations that either we can build it, or we ca n’t build it, or we can on we don’t need it yet, because we have other levers and questions that if we have them, then why have mine still not been put into action and with the fact that on the other hand it is necessary, as it were, to collect stones, we are entering the new year and all, as if asking one question, all types of me, they say, in short, what is waiting for us there, as it were, at this junction of the mobilization economy and the mobilization society. uh,

what kind of mobilization has the ministry of defense brought this year? partial here in the economy is the same . uh, we seem to be reduced to a strategy of partial economic mobilization and partial social mobilization. we have a part of society that has mobilized, uh, and now, uh, has switched to such, uh, paramilitary regime and is helping the front, what can and is everything the rest, who pretend that it does not concern them. here, well, there is still a small group of those who, on the contrary, uh, left in external migration in internal it's the same with the economy. here are the ones you brought. uh, german articles. uh, yes. uh, it is very characteristic that in german there is no word economy, but there is the word vird, mines, which is translated into russian literally economy. and so. e, summing up my economic results of the years, i made a paradoxical conclusion that we really have a problem with the economy. though less

than expected. but with the economy, that's all not bad. why is it interesting? why because , well, a whole bunch of industries came to life and not just the military. uh, because of import substitution , because of everything, people felt needed. here are those who stirred pharmacology, more precisely, uh, scientists who now need what you invent to replace the one who left. yes, uh, the workers who were called back to uh, factories. here, even the same volunteers volunteers who here are a huge number of people who sat lying and waited for , uh, pension benefits. e with the help of the e, means, whatever they went to work. and here is it turned out it turned out that there is strength and desire, that is, and his entrepreneurs. there is a desire to capture the vacant niches after leaving, and mind you. ah, microsoft. today

, the right to download windows returned back. why yes, because uh, uh, politics, politics, money is earned on this, the market is losing, it turns out. here he was. in response, he beat, goodbye. we have already learned without you. we are already here without you, we have already decided. eh, so it turned out that we can, eh, and when they talk about energy consumption as a criterion. eh, here i would even here, uh, i would look, it's really inside us . eh, in absolute numbers it remained the same, but in relative terms, if you look between sectors, then it fell somewhere and grew somewhere and showed growth. and this is what pulled us and will pull the candles in the year. and most importantly, the restoration of the donbass, the restoration of the destroyed, uh, spaces. yes , this is what is really called post- conflict recovery and what gives a tremendous boost to the entire economy after the

war, yes, after the war, the soviet union yes 2 it took the soviet union a year when most of the western territory lay in ruins 27 million dead 2 years, and we went to the military. gdp well, you understand, returning to the first part of our program, that this was the soviet union in which someone would say. well, you know, of course, the germans may be wrong about something. but in general, i'm not going to fight for this stalinist regime with its bloody, gulags and so on. why sucked and therefore the fire contributed to her a lot to decorate moscow recovered in 2 of the year. i understood, but in the empire where there is no stalinist socialism, alexander was, i understood, konstantinovich agreed to moscow in order to stop, he would not avoid moscow in light. z. well, as far as you want to speak about the economy. and as they say, uh, for god's sake, because, well, at isfake we are taught everything. we can talk about any topic, but so far i was headed by the leaders of the enterprise, so uh, i’m actually coming to

you right away, so as not to interrupt you later. we also wanted to see how it happened with you, i was at the last program, and at the end of the program i said that i could not help but ask you a question about the lunch corridor, about which, thank god, right here. i had a cis summit and it sounded somehow. i don't know if there will be any solutions. well , after all, what is the population, and so on and so forth, but i can’t ask you another question, about which they write a lot to me, and i wrote about it myself. uh, i have a feeling that moldova and transnistria have been taken on very tightly, because when i read some deputies, there moldovan, but the parliament. and there is such an e oise, a oise anton toy. yes, it means that the so -called incremental conflict does not need to be resolved through dialogue with different people, which means that gagauzia has it here too. uh, you need to, uh, limit and so on, so here, like last time, i am asking you the question, what is really going on with us, and you yourself are the balance of the economy. and so. eh, so to speak this policy. calculate start with the economy to

finish with it quickly. especially since they've already spoken about it. i think you calmed down, please, here i am, not rock us belousov did not respond in the best way to this topic, because he said. something that plunges us into a methodological dispute, what is a mobilization economy? what is a mobilization society? he apparently waged a shadow fight with some kind of unspoken reproach and fought off accusations that we do not create, quickly mobilize and only partially, as it was said. let 's mobilize this economy. i will not spread my thoughts along the tree. i want to say personally. i think that everything that happens is serious and for a long time, so go this way. all the same, it will come to mobilize the economy and mobilize the society. yes, together with society, along with recruits. actually. so, well, i don’t want to continue on this topic. i answer your questions. here, uh, i've already been so reassured. let me enter into the new year to calm down, i want to say whether it calms you down or not, but it's just a fact that

before, uh, extinct volcanoes of conflicts, uh, not only in ukraine, but along the entire perimeter of the soviet space , they are natural. in the context of what is happening now clashes between russia and the west in ukraine are intensifying, and so they are being activated in different ways, in accordance with , among other things, national traditions , mentality, and so on. for example, the georgian example the day before yesterday, in my opinion, or yesterday came up with such an attractive idea for abkhazia and south ossetia come back we have 10 billion for abkhazia sukhumi will have a monte carlo and so on and so forth. here he is in his own way, as if in the role of a good investigator , he calls out a in moldova, which is closer to the european. the union is already very close to romania and half, as it were, of moldovan politicians have long been with romanian passports. i know very well such a kind, grandfather, he was understandably always

sculpts from himself or he was told this oise from the law. give it, as if your dope, that's enough. she was always present in him, and he says what he really wants. it’s just that he couldn’t say it before the time, and now her tongue has been loosened, which was done by the deputies of the moldovan parliament. that's just the 21st they are uh, we can say, in the first reading, in fact , the legal commission of this parliament adopted the amendments proposed to the parliament, the government has already supported the amendments to the criminal code in accordance with which draconian terms are introduced for separatists for those who are part of moldova e, contributes to the separation of part moldova or about gaga is this and a, transnistria and in fact iogeusia. this is about everyone who generally thinks differently, just he is. well, maybe it's something age or it's all the same, in fact, a consequence of the pressure that they put pressure on moldova well, of course,

ukraine has been pushing moldova for a long time to make it faster. i figured it out from pridnestrovie, in front of pridnestrovie there are, in fact, hailstones, which should immediately attack the tiraspol airfield. uh-huh, if russian units descend there, if in fact an order is followed to seize warehouses, e . you know what they prefer. here , turning away in the wall to plaster in a certain situation. here but in another sense of the word, i don’t want to offend anyone, i don’t want to. actually. they are not in a hurry to necessarily shed blood, and they are constantly pushing for this, that such a decision adopted by the parliament of moldova, they simply outlaw the citizens of transnistria, who can now accuse them of being separatists and, in accordance with the new

law, they must receive from 2 up to 7 years term. look, i understand this. more than in economy. when i wrote the right to this and so on about it. and i wrote to myself that i know for sure that both the west and probably ukraine have an insidious plan regarding moldova's gagauzi and tiraspol and so on. i have only one question. but we have some kind of plan, at least preferably a commercial one. or it is also somewhere completely secret. so, firstly, of course, we must have a plan, and i personally have a difference in wording. yes? yeah, if i had to, because as long as we were on the right bank, it was wrong in kherson, yes, but these speeches did not sound, because we were afraid to move here. yes, it has now arisen. well, as if the impression that you can try this is the first second, which i think we should count on all the same. we must count on the fact that there are reasonable people in moldovan

society. it is split in fact, and i don't think, i think i said it today, i think it's doubtful that people in moldova want to start hostilities. they want world gas and electricity, which is on in fact, they want that very moment when we hardly agree there on gas, on electricity, on the rest of russia , transnistria, moldova, and so on. at this moment, the deputies are inciting, because they are being pushed, they are being urged on, and they introduce norms that, for example, say that any attempt to cooperate with the separatists. this is also from 9 to 12 years. and what is cooperation with separatists for 30 years, we are helping our compatriot transnistria, here it is the composition of our crime. well, in this case, you me at the entrance to this new year is not so, as they say it's time. well, in general, to be honest. this was expected, but further time will show advertising on channel one. you are

talking about four regions, are you talking about these regions within their administrative boundaries or that part of the territory that is currently under the real control of the state of russia no, i'm talking, of course, about their borders within the russian federation, that is, and these territories will still have to be russia ships, of course, whether you believe based on whether what you know is that indeed in washington someone with real power is developing plans to strike at the russian leadership the threat sounded the west is overcoming its own taboos that were set a few months ago. we asked the americans out. now, in my opinion, democrats in the american sense. this is someone who is loyal to the democratic party, usa today at 19:50 and

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special issue with the minister of foreign affairs of russia sergey viktorovich lavrov dmitry suslov is with me and we are in the reception mansion of the ministry of foreign affairs of russia , mr. minister. thank you very much for taking the time, and this is the end of the year of a very interesting year, but i want to ask you about the next year, and a few years ago. i spoke with the former secretary of state, and henry kesem, whom you know well, and i just returned from moscow and told him. that there are such moods in moscow, what if, uh, us policy and nato policy ignoring russian concerns, and, if you want, with such a satisfied smack that if this policy

continues, then it is very likely that russia will have to use force, to which he replied, but if they do this for his behatl, if they do this, they will suffer huge, and he said that then unite against them. all nato jelly, turned out to be right. in the sense that the west is indeed the collective west united, and in response to a special operation, it may have demonstrated if want more solidity than most of us expected. it seems to me that the russian stands proudly and confidently, and moscow definitely does not give the impression of a city that somehow trembled and doubts its rightness and its strength, and i have a very simple and very complex question for you. how do you see the prospects for

next year on the one hand? i mean the escalation of hostilities, of course, but on the other hand, the prospects for serious negotiations. well, first of all, you are absolutely right about how the collective the west rallied its ranks, but this did not happen at the call, the hearts of each member of this alliance. and yet, this alliance was rallied, rallied first of all, the united states and, uh, mentality. uh, dominance hasn't gone anywhere, just a couple of weeks ago. i paid attention to the statement of one of the professors at stanford university, i don't remember his name now, but he said, the united states must be a global gendarme to save the world. and how not only nato but also

the european union as an association, which is not yet long ago, but claimed, at least in the speeches of some of its e, giants, auto -strategic autonomy. he completely obeyed. it is this single western line that creates the centers for coordinating the actions of nato and the european union, and draws in neutral states. in particular finland, sweden and already long before that. e, a mobility program was first introduced, which allowed its purpose to use transport infrastructure other than nato countries to advance nato technology to the east. closer to our borders. i would also like to note that, by the way, i am watching a big game and, in my opinion, the topic was discussed just the other day. uh, those deep changes that

are taking place in the european union in europe as a whole regarding the shift in the center of gravity in favor of the europeans, primarily poland of the baltic countries, but the czechs of slovakia and the euro-grands are actively playing along in this situation, and they are lost, and he they gave macron, who 2-3 years ago spoke about the need for the euro for europe to rely on its own strength and have almost his own army, the strategic compass was invented as a step towards strategic autonomy, and the macron even spoke of nato's brain death, showing her disappointment in the processes that were imposed primarily from across the ocean. now the president of

france himself is not talking about this, uh, periodically makes a statement that someday you will have to do uh, build a security architecture in europe, taking into account the interests of all countries, including russia, and the younger members immediately pulled up. e western alliance and this is perceived by everyone as a natural course of things. by the way, this is very interesting, because i called it just recently. uh, a lot of comments on his article. we paid attention to the estimates that he gave and to the forecasts that this article contains, including options. and as he sees it, there was finally regulation, but it is surprising that no one paid attention to the phrase that is mentioned in this article as a matter of course, of course, and reads as follows, that there are two nuclear powers.

compete but who gets non-nuclear, ukraine this is, well, probably, according to freud. although heinrich is an anger, he is a wise man, and he does not say anything in vain, but this is an open frank admission of who is at war with whom the collective west, led by a nuclear power, is at war with us united states of america and in december 2019, when the greasy normandy four took place in paris, after all , there, and experts and kremlin experts from the administration and our ministry prepared an agreed text of the agreement, which confirmed the fundamental e, theses and fundamental the provisions of the minsk agreement and the first

number in these paris agreements was a ceasefire and the disengagement of forces. this was agreed upon by everyone along the entire length of the line of contact, when the four leaders sat down at a round table, and we, who accompanied us, settled down along the perimeter in the elysee palace zelensky was the first to say that he would not do this and sign up for the disengagement of forces along the entire line of contact . he can't do the maximum. what would it take to select three experimental sites on this line . contact and there try to carry out this breeding. ah. we have clarified. well , the suspicion arose instantly, but they clarified , uh, the reason why there is between the consensus of experts and the destruction of this consensus at the level of heads of state. but such a metamorphosis took place. the americans sent

him a signal that if you disengage forces along the entire line of contact, then the russians will never give up the donbass to you. well, you see, i guess it's logic and you know, like the fact that he received this kind of advice instruction, but i know exactly what they told him, what i just mentioned, but er, the refusal to restore their territorial integrity by, by and large , granting part of their population the rights that are enshrined in numerous international conventions, and in the constitution of ukraine itself, where before until now, the obligation of the state to ensure the rights of national minorities and the russians mentioned separately is spelled out, which means that plan b existed for a long time , it also existed in paris in the nineteenth

year, and sometimes they blurted out. uh, ukrainian leaders that the minsk agreements are not in our interests. let's take all this strength, so the history of the process of the ukrainian tragedy is rich, and now they are trying all that part of the story that explains what is happening. i am trying to cancel, as they are trying to cancel, and much more, that is, russian culture in ukraine has been canceled for many years by laws that began to be accepted under poroshenko and which continue to be stamped by the presidential and here they are, when they approved the law a couple of years ago, and the status of the ukrainian language, how public is it alarmed even the venice commission of the council of europe and the european union also

expressed concerns in the osce, but the maximum that these respected institutions could do then was to tell the ukrainians. well, well , leave this law, but e, then update somehow, but the existing legislation of national minorities. it was about two years ago, probably just a couple of weeks ago, the verkhovna rada adopted the law on national minorities in the second reading. this is an example of ukrainian lawmaking. it says that the ukrainian the state guarantees the rights of all national minorities to the extent that follows from the current legislation. that is, everything that has already been destroyed the formation of mass media culture and much more. and all this is now in the new

law, it is recognized with minorities. as a basis, it is actually about assertion. or not his approval of that colonial neo-colonial world order, which our president spoke about and which the west hides under the slogan of respect and a world order based on rules. i am many times, when this term appeared, i asked my western colleagues, with whom we were still talking then. can you give me a list of where this is related? to my surprise, well, or rather, it was already pointless to be surprised, no one ever, no references to these specific rules, where one could read how to behave, did not convey the answer to the question of whether to expect or

escalate. hey, can i search? in a variety of statements, assessments of political scientists, our leadership does not say that we intend to promote, but an approach that involves escalation. we intend to ensure the fulfillment of the objectives, as a special military operation. and as the president emphasized, our absolute priority is four new regions of the russian federation that must be freed from the threats of nazism to which they have been subjected for many, many years and which must ensure the security of all the people who live there by ensuring their rights, as well. well , of course, another most important goal of the special operation is to prevent, and

create and maintain on ukrainian territory, any threats to our security. uh, now they say that the west did not somehow try to push ukraine into hostilities against russia, but uh, the strangulation of the russian russian-speaking population of ukraine i think this is real aggression. i want to clarify when you are talking about four regions. you are talking about these regions in their administrative boundaries or that part of the territory that is under real control today. ah, the states of russia no, i'm talking, of course, about their borders within the russian federation in accordance with the russian constitution is, in my opinion , obvious things, that is, these territories will still have to be, russia liberated, of course, this requirement, which took place

in all these four regions, to achieve, at the end of the negotiation process or recognition of this fact, ukraine is a condition for the start of negotiations . the president has repeatedly said that we never reject the proposal to reach diplomatic agreements , the terms on which we are ready to start discussing these agreements are well known and, uh, an integral part of these conditions is that four territories belong to four regions of the russian federation, but this is not all that needs to be discussed, but because the second big block of problems, in addition to the fate of citizens who do not want to live under the rule of the current regime with a frank nazi russian

orientation and philosophy, and the second was a big problem block. this is the security of the entire russian federation, and the territory was developed by ukraine quite actively, including planning for it. this is also know the planning of creation. naval base on azov sea ​​you understand, when this sea was a sea of ​​two states, the appearance of a naval base there. well, let's say anglo-saxon origin. e, it would radically change the security situation in the same way as e had long since the coup e and before the referendum, plans were hatched to create a military base in the then ukrainian crimea e with an eye to neutralize our capabilities in the black sea anonymous experts from the pentagon from the

pentagon to basically, they said more than once that we have no right to prohibit zelensky from inflicting strikes on those territories that are internationally recognized, as ukraine, i mean, and are directly called including crimea . there were several again anonymous, but very reliable evidence that the modernization of the corresponding multiple launch rocket systems so that they gained thousands of kilometers, directly made by american specialists. we asked the americans, uh, through the channels that are still kept by our embassy, ​​does the decision to transfer the battery mean a loop? ah, given the complexity, uh her using the fact that american

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viktorovich you quite rightly said that the west is waging war against us through ukraine and not only that, and the west is overcoming its own taboos that were established a few months ago. that's what russia is doing. and most importantly, what will russia do next year to convince the west to abandon this rather dangerous logic. and suspend this here is the trend, but i believe that we must continue. uh, our line that was marked by the president on earth. we are engaged

in activities that will allow us much more efficient, and work. in these territories in the very near future, i have no doubts about this, but with the west. well, we have very few opportunities to talk now. yes, in fact, there is no particular desire when you read the statement of foreign ministers, and prime ministers and presidents that it is necessary to deal with the security of europe against russia previously, they used to say without russia, now they are against russia, and in parentheses i note that the ideas of the macron are the creation of the european political community if it's rude - it's obse minus this was said to russia and belarus by a person who a little later said that it was important, and not

to lose the opportunity to build some kind of security structures with russia, and dmitry began, uh, our conversation with the fact that the west was consolidating, but it seems to me that the past year he showed an even more important trend. this is the formation of the world majority. these are the countries of the east and the south, which do not agree with western hegemony, and sergey viktorovich here, but is it really our turn towards the world majority, this is not opportunistic, but strategic direction of russian foreign policy, which will continue and intensify in the coming year in 2023. russia will do in the coming year to strengthen its ties with the world majority and to strengthen the role of this very world majority in world affairs. i think the majority. e countries are not western. and of course, they had already seen by that time after the sanctions that were introduced

after the provoked coup d'état against russia after the crimean referendum. they have already seen the insecurity, that is, the system in which they are, like everyone else the rest, but they imposed sanctions against chinese companies that produce conductors clearly striving, but froze from the development of the people's republic of china, but everything happened much faster and many countries faced the need to choose now here and now, and choosing here and now is probably difficult considering how much everyone was tied to uh, here is the system of globalization created by the americans and discredited by them, because in general, he proved to be unreliable, as uh curator, as the operator of this system. but yes we heard

the statement of the chinese leadership that they are against hegemony, that it is necessary to build a fair world order. we have heard the statement of the indian leadership that they will be guided by the interests of india and senseless persuasion. uh, for the sake of some american geopolitical interests forget about your own. and turkey algeria not to mention the venezuelan club nicaragua yes, and mexico and argentina from brazil also, in general, do not join the sanctions, so the process. formation of this new world order, and, of course, it will accelerate and is already accelerating, but objectively it will be a whole historical epoch. i think at one of your programs i drew attention to someone's

statement that globalization is ending, regenalization is beginning, that there will be several large blocs that, uh, are formed around regional leaders, and within these blocks will be created, a replacement will be created all the dark, tools and mechanisms that now have a global character, but which are abused. and those who created these tools and the dispute was about whether the united states understands this and someone mentioned, what do they understand? and what is more, the united states would like to accelerate the process of this regionalization of the world economy in general of international relations, and china, also realizing the need for such regionalization, has nothing against it and creating its own tools and

structures. i would like this process to take. eh, more time. i’m like this offhand, when i heard it, it seemed to me that this is a very interesting observation and i need to it is better to understand it, but if the americans really would like to accelerate the process of regionalization of the world, and the system, then, probably, this would mean that they want to reach an agreement as soon as possible , because the sooner you agree, the more you will agree, the more chances to keep all the levers that they still had, which had global coverage in this regard, here. also, raisman came to me with the americans, the conversation was still scandalous raisman, they talked about this topic, i asked if it interferes with leading a huge country great variety, by the way, to say, despite the fact that the melting pot turns everyone into

americans, but it's still different, doesn't it interfere. e. here, uh, distractions every 2 years for a presidential or parliamentary election campaign, well, she told me that well, of course, it’s like a distraction and our system is cumbersome. but it's like, do n't worry. this is our problem. we know how to solve these problems, but on the one hand, these are their problems, but this is a problem for the rest of the world, because every time election campaigns are coming to the americans, you need to invent some external topic, either a threat, or task a and when, given their weight on the world stage, global processes become, well, hostages or under the strongest influence of their internal conversations and internal internal political struggle , autocratic states, as they

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leadership. and no, and cannot be in this context. i want to ask you if you believe, on the basis of what you know, that indeed washington, who is there, who has real power , is developing plans to strike at the russian leadership and the second. uh, on numerous occasions in washington, both the secretary of state and the national security adviser have spoken about how washington is warning russia that you shouldn't do. it is you who should not follow any path, otherwise there will be the most serious consequences. would you like to take advantage. this is the opportunity to tell the administration what would happen if, uh, such a blow, someone actually tried to strike. well, first of all, uh, i used an anonymous source, but unlike you, you know, she's not yours. and i don't know him, but

he was advertised as high-ranking and so on. yes? well, we are somehow used to the fact that this is serious journalism. although more and more indications that this is not always the case, but nevertheless, and i wanted to make sure to exaggerate this anonymous leak, because he said, this source may have been somewhere and now it is politically correct to say he or she although already or it. yes? the source said that, uh, this is how such a threat sounded, that in principle, the kremlin should not feel safe either. somehow there was nothing about putin personally, but uh, that's it. it was clear. and i decided to make it so deliberately emphasize, because it sounded against the background of those who did not stop. uh, talking heads, but speaking heads.

this is apparently a head that can only speak of thinking, not really a sketch. and when a similar, but slightly less vulgar thesis came from a masturbated source in washington, dc and all this was perceived. well, somehow without any reaction from the administration itself. and the journalists did not ask madame jean-pierre at the briefing. what do they think about it. so, when they asked about crimea, i told you that there was, so that there would be an answer from an anonymous representative of the pentagon. this it is definitely a fact that we cannot forbid ukrainians to work with our armed forces on the territory that we consider ukraine to be a very serious change in position, because in the same 2014 after the

coup d'état after the referendum in crimea in april. i've mentioned it before , it shouldn't be a secret anymore. we were going. uh, in europe in zhenya they were in vienna, they remember john kerry your humble servant katya ashton uh, the head of eu diplomacy and then there was such a gentleman. yes shield, which is empty acted as the curator of the foreign policy department. we sat there and discussed, by the way, a paper one page, and in which the main eth thesis, but was support for the federalization of ukraine well, then, of course, all this paper did not go away, but it did not acquire any status, but in parallel. john kerry and i had two-way conversations. long and here in that

conversation. he said that they perfectly understand that the choice of the crimeans is sincere. and there are no doubts here, but it would be necessary somehow he said to issue it again referendum. spend it already by inviting someone else there in advance of the uno osce there. and then he says you did it all right in the px, but i explained to them that it was done in the pph, because it took place immediately after the puchisty threw the so-called friendship trains with armed thugs from the right sector to the crimea and so on, uh , such neo-nazi ultra radical groups, when they stormed the buildings of the supreme council of crimea and the population there. i just did not want to wait, but the repetition of this kind of aggressive provocations. well, that's something

that president biden is constantly, he also says in order to avoid a third world war. ukraine needs to win. that's quite recently. i don't really understand how the logic is. here hmm is present. uh, because he says we won't directly fight russia otherwise. this will be the third world war. and after some time he said that in order to avoid it, ukraine must win. we don't have channels of dialogue for the us military. they say that from time to time milli calls general gerasimov. austin spoke with shoigu a couple of times this time. it's good. this is useful, but everything is

limited to the fact that you have to be careful. so, if a generalized, and at one time hillary clinton, when she was secretary of state, formulated the principle of american diplomacy, which, it seems to me, is still in effect, it is to go and chew gum, at the same time, in this case, if we talk about russian american relations, he implies that the united states is holding back russia, helping ukraine in everything, and trying to help russia defeat russia, help ukraine defeat russia on the battlefield. but at that at the same time, they want to talk with russia on those issues on which they are interested, and now they are interested in talking with russia about the resumption of inspections of nuclear facilities within the framework. e of the implementation of the agreement with mv-3, which they appeal to the fact that they say we are nuclear superpowers, for the sake of strategic stability it is necessary that inspections be in my opinion. very. this is hypocritical too, because i see the main threat to

strategic stability. just in that hybrid war that the united states. they go against us, not whether they are or not inspections, but in any case, we need this. uh, this, by the way, is one of, uh, one of the opportunities for dialogue, with the united states, but in the context of how the united states presents it. by the way, in my youth, i easily walked living chewing gum and did not experience any inconvenience. uh, but it's an american image. and we have something they say, eh. other other, uh, we go with them, that means how lovers of fish products behave. yes, yes, here, as far as they are absolutely right, they are very interested in the resumption of the inspection, including on our evaluation. naturally. we analyze the situation according to our assessment. they need that, uh, in order to understand. and if suddenly then what can we expect is with all the incantations about the

inadmissibility of nuclear war, which we remain committed to 100%, and recently reaffirmed this in our special statement. uh, referring to the russian-initiated statements of the five nuclear five that there can be no winners in a nuclear war. she can never be untied, but for 21 years. we have a biden summit. putin is also on our initiative here. updated and reconfirmed the relevant statements of the late eighties reagan gorbachev and they really want these inspections and they send us signals representatives of the national security council call. and uh, they really want to resume it all, and we draw their attention to the fact that our state dumas, when ratifying the treaty, made a statement that without mentioning the

close inextricable relationship between offensive and defensive strategic expressions, ratification would be impossible, so this is not some there a prelude to something that doesn't really matter. this is a legal fact. and of course they destroy. this commitment is also global against missile defense lines up along the perimeter of both our borders and chinese borders, all the talk is that yes , and don't worry. it's all against iran and against the canadians are a thing of the past no one about it. maybe he doesn’t even remember openly declaring that the anti-missile system should help deter russia, deter china, and so on, and therefore, in these conditions, if if

they see only one thing in this treaty important thing for yourself here let us come and have a look. well, that's probably not very fair. in addition, from the point of view of technical sanctions, they seriously complicated our ability to carry out a counter inspection. there, even if there is permission for the plane to fly through everything. uh, territories of countries uh on the way to i don't know where it is, maybe hypothetically in geneva or somewhere else, uh the members of the delegation and the crews, as we have analyzed, will have serious difficulties with paying for the hotel for food and gas aircraft, but they do not can guarantee. and we will resume, and we are there along the way, we'll see, but this is an absolutely

secondary even third power topic, technical and strategically fundamental topic. it is that they have undermined all the foundations on which this treaty is based, and yet we have outlined all this to our american colleagues. they said that we are fully committed to our obligations under the contract insofar as they can be implemented on an equal basis, we will provide them in a timely manner and in full, but. the information provided treaty and send appropriate notifications, continuing the topic of a real threat to strategic stability, biden really said that in order to prevent a third world war. ukraine must win on the battlefield. and what do you think the united states will do when ukraine loses on the battlefield, which

seems inevitable to me, and after all, they convinced themselves that this is a war not only and not so much for ukraine this notorious world order based on rules, that is for american gamemony and so on. that's what they'll do when ukraine loses to me. get stuck. uh, because, well, usually. i try to think before i say something, and it doesn’t always happen, i confess, but when a person says such things, but, probably, uh, they have something, if it was a conscious statement, something, probably there, and they have in reserve for such a case, but uh, now everyone has started talking again. e about the need for negotiations. uh,

the need to prevent as well, but they immediately accuse us of being out of negotiations refused. putin has repeatedly said that there are no serious proposals, and the example of the istanbul history he clearly shows that this and that time we shook hands and said, it's too early. you haven't exhausted russia yet. yes, that is, the stages when it seems to us americans that this is already enough. here, uh, but just when they say kiev is ready, russia does not want it to be done. uh, on a blue eye against the background of what kiev declares, he will never sit down at the table until we free all our native ukrainian-crimean lands. and so on, but now they are already saying that we will not sit down and get stuck. until russia capitulates there, this cycle-leba said it will not pay reparations,

only then will we accept them into some kind of new party, and the tribunal must pass. yes, and after the tribunals, yes, and in february they will shoot down the new rows. eh, it will be interesting to see, you know, now everything. it has been taken out for a long time already outside the un framework and they created some platforms on international humanitarian law outside the framework. the french and the germans created the un then they created the alliance of multilateralists led by the european union. she is a question. why not do this? look, where is the multilateralism? just it is not present in the maximum possible format , but there are retrogrades there. and we are front-line bulletinalists, and then biden convened this summit with democracy deciding who are democrats and who are not democrats. and in principle,

now, in my opinion, democrats in the american sense. this is someone who is loyal not even to the united states, but to the democratic party of the united states, so, as it were , linguistically understandable, then they convene convened. this european political community was recently hosted by the americans themselves in the usa africa, and unlike us, who invited everyone to the first one, you yourself invited everyone, to the second in the middle of next year, the americans themselves decided. what is africa as a geographical concept, six or seven countries simply did not call, because there the government came to power. uh, illegally, not through elections, but in ukraine, the government came to power. just through the bloody lord as a person, just arrived who else is she, if the administration bydn, i decided that something is not africa means

something is not africa now you are already challenging the basic rules of the rule. and you are not africa , what is it in moscow, how do you disagree with this? here is a new initiative to again create some kind of security forum without russia zelensky put forward plans of ten points, and kuleba is already painting. e curators from the western camp for each of the ten points. they will now give orders. i go back many years ago. that leaders rarely lie to each other because , unlike public diplomacy, when in general, especially when you have a rival to tell the truth and the full truth is somehow not fully expected, but when the leaders speak, with each other they usually

do not deceive each other, because they will have to do each other again and a minimum of trust. this is a fundamental principle of diplomacy. and now it seems to me that we have come to a situation where there is no trust , when, in general, even washington and brussels take advantage of what is with russia and trust in trusting relationships. no it ca n't be when open after negotiation with you and the president, what was said. and when he claims that there were predestinations, there during the georgian crisis of 2008. eh, that it was necessary to remove every bumblebee? and when a statement is now attributed to both you and president putin, which it turns out later, they never did. here i have a question for you, how to work for you in such conditions, but with

yours i don’t know how to call them, let’s say, former american colleagues, who nevertheless remain, but a great power. with whom you have to deal and at very let's just say the minimal dialogue, both public and private, that exists today. here's what you could give a wish that is not rhetorical, but such a serious one, and to those who determine american policy, what kind of wishes could you give them so that in the new year some serious dialogue would still begin to be carried out. you know, well, about the dialogue . we don't want to express any wishes, because they know very well that the dialogue was

interrupted. we don't what now. ask let's resume the dialogue we are not going to. it's not in our tradition is our tradition to always respond to sound suggestions. if proposals to meet follow, by the way, there were several such informal proposals during this period, and each time we agreed, one of them materialized a meeting between barens and naryshkin in ankara, which was supposed to be a confidential meeting, but all this was leaked little, which is kept secret in our days. although we always try to comply with such an agreement, there were other parallel visits, also with reference to we never refused an order from washington

, but then these visits somehow came to naught, but to wish. i would like to wish to be a little more democrat, not in my own sense, but on the international stage. because when you start talking about democracy, about the democratization of international relations, and not about anything supernatural and new, but about the fact that these relations are based on the un charter, where it is written, it is based on the sovereign equality of the state. nothing more needs to be done, just follow these obligations, which are in your hand the american authors entered along with ours this fundamental document, because otherwise they feel entitled. i gave these

examples, but they all of a sudden decided that the security of the united states has deteriorated sharply or depends to a decisive extent on what is happening in yugoslavia from the fact that it seemed to someone that saddam hussein was doing some research in weapons of mass destruction or gaddafi is not sympathetic enough, or perhaps knows too much about how the electoral campaign was funded. campaign of the president of france in a certain year and all for 10,000 miles of expiration corps. they destroyed libya to the ground and now they don’t know it, and now they are trying to collect it themselves in the same way that they destroyed it in their time and insisted that sudan should be divided into two parts. then they began

to complain that neither one nor the other was listening to them, and now they are demanding sanctions against both sudan and south sudan and are already imposing these sanctions. tony blair somewhere in his memoirs said. well, yes, we made a mistake, they made a mistake. well, with whom there were not hundreds of thousands people of the city were razed to the ground no weapons were found and that's all. across the ocean well , i'm not talking about what reasons the americans announced in order to intervene in the dominican republic in grenada. it was just reagan talking. you know, there was a threat to the lives of american citizens, just threats, and there are thousands of them, and that means they are invading, changing the government, and so on. and when in our case, in the case of russian people and russian-speaking people in ukraine whose rights? trampled were legislated

growing language education media information culture. and the coup d'état was immediately instinctive, then it still sounded pompously that it is necessary to ban the russian language and stop working with it, and russians in general with crimea or not? and all these years we agreed to the minsk agreements. the minsk agreements concerned a very small part of those territories that are now being discussed. and if the west is the united states first of all, nothing was accepted there, not under poroshenko not under zelensky without american advice and even urgent advice, so to speak, if they then did these things, in general, not very difficult obligations, so that there would not be, and if

there had not been a putsch and a coup d'état, if then the germans, the french, the poles, who guaranteed a deal between yanukovych and the opposition, if they then insisted on the puffy. they stopped this disgrace and returned to the agreement, then after 5-6 months. there would be elections that the opposition would have won. everything was there, obviously. that is, that's why it had to be done from this. i only have one because in this case it would be subject to revision and risk, yes the theory which were put forward. and then ukraine, if only the agreements that were reached before the coup were fulfilled. and everything would remain, as it was within the boundaries of the

ninety-first year. and this created fantasizing. now. well, probably not far from the truth. this created a situation where russia and ukraine would maintain normal relations. and so it was necessary to put the russophobes to break the agreement with sinukovich and start what they are, what they continued to do, introduce, introduce into the legislation the justification of the nazi theory promote nazi practices through these battalions in everyday life, by the way, say e in congress. now, when the us military budget, e, was approved there once again, as congressmen do. every year they included a ban on any military aid there, the material weapons of the azov battalion or the floor. i don’t know azov anymore. and every time the pentagon

objects to this and seeks to remove this ban from the american budget, there was also a lot to say towards the end. the last question i have to say is a question that is asked by almost everyone. i know in moscow were to share in terms of your own expectations. well, we should always be realistic. you know what? i'm not a pessimist, although they say that a pessimist is good, an informed optimist. this is about a glass half full or half empty, but there are very important things here. also, what kind of liquid is specifically in the glass, but my expectations are realistic, i am convinced. eh,

that we, through our perseverance, patience, purpose of aspiration, will we protect those? noble goals, and goals that have a vital important for our people for our country, consistently, always remaining ready for an equal dialogue on their agreements that will ensure truly, equal, indivisible security in europe. this implies taking into account the interests of russia, and here again, this is not something that we invented and we demand this, then what all western leaders signed up to in istanbul in 1999 and in astana in 2010

, and even within the framework of the documents of the russian council, they told us a lie, to put it very diplomatically. huge to you thanks. it was content. i have to say, honestly, in general, a very optimistic conversation.