he flies of angelic weight, and in this sense, of course, he is absolutely invulnerable to strangers here . i’m here very much right away with him, i just sat down to play and mikhalkov would show, yes, we take everything, but this is a rare case, usually i don’t trust myself artemyev is a brilliant melody and too russian a person. he is absolutely disinterested, just everything that they say about me means absolutely nothing to me, i wrote something. i think what a disgrace god , how embarrassing artemiev today at the first i have one thought that time is left for something nothing. i do not have time for anything.

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i am only a wanderer by the misfortune of the empress who did not take the oath and you are, first of all , a dazzling woman for me. forgive me for tormenting, but i cannot cancel the decree of exile . i understand and thank you, i can leave grigory alexandrovich , make arrangements on my behalf so that sent by the nearest ship going to italy

i want to see the russian winter. come, the empress is waiting.

good evening today, a special special edition of the big game, together with the president of the center for national interests dmitry simes and the guests of the program, we will sum up the results of the outgoing year for russia and the world, but we will do this in

the context of the anniversary that will be tomorrow, namely 100 years since the formation of the union soviet socialist republics, let me remind you that on december 30, 1922 in moscow, the first all-union congress of soviets in which the working peasant red army deputies from the rsfsr of the ukrainian ssr of the belarusian ussr and the transcaucasian soviet socialist republic approved an agreement on the formation of a power with the ussr that had perhaps the greatest impact on the 20th century and many of the main results of the outgoing year and a special military operation and the entry into russia of four new regions and a hybrid war with the west and the formation of a world majority, that is, the east and the south, which do not agree with the continuation of western hegemony, that's all. this, in my opinion, is directly related to the soviet union, first of all, to its collapse, but some results related to how the

soviet union was created 100 years ago. i would say that the collapse of the soviet union set a clockwork on many mines that exploded today, but some of these mines were laid during the creation of the soviet union, for example, the organization of the ussr as a union of equal national republics with the right to secede and initially the vision of the soviet union was not only as a new edition of big russia well, as the basis for the world socialist revolutions well, we 'll talk more about history a little later in the second part of the program. and now the results of the year and how they were influenced by the processes that began with the building and especially with the collapse of the soviet union dmitry, how do you see what we are seeing today again? and a special military operation, a military conflict , and a denocification, which is carried out by ukraine, and on the other hand, a denocification of ukraine that is taking place. is all

this inevitable. was all this inevitable after the collapse of the soviet union dmitry depends on what it means it was inevitable, what we mean by it, if we mean by it how specifically it started, and the special operation, how specifically certain countries reacted to this operation. it probably wasn't entirely inevitable. but that the collapse of the soviet union was by no means organized by anyone without serious guarantees for russia without some realistic agreements between the new states, agreements that would not be like this happened. uh, reached at the last moment and march, and here how france was arrested with algeria. and

how, for example, did the independent african states stop when they were negotiating for a long time, bowed by the metropolises, since this was nothing in the event of the collapse of the soviet union, only, of course, the russian parliament from the apple party, which looked, was good. i had a dronik migroyan on one of the russian television programs and told me that you know, in general, you are behaving irresponsibly. i was talking about crimea because what do you think russia should have do. it could also lead to bloodshed. and i told him, here, and what they

didn’t do at all now. this will most likely come to a shed on a larger scale and on more difficult conditions for russia. unfortunately, i turned out to be right, and dmitry generally seems to me that we need to understand what is happening now, but what is happening is that there was a special operation. and as president putin just said, the war has begun, and he, as you rightly noted on our other program. how did you rightly say? he even compared it to the war of 1812, and here i am i look at the wars of the last century. in general, they all started. not in the way that the participants in the conflicts expected. but what matters is how they ended. i would like to ask you. uh, general buinsky, what do you think in terms of dynamics, military actions, am i right when

it seems to me that the beginning was not easy for russia and, of course, there are still quite difficult days ahead, but don’t you think that russia let's say, unlike the first world war, unlike the great patriotic war? in general, we managed to get through this difficult period without being able to be called into question e questioned the ability of russia's ability to first adequately defend itself. and secondly, to enjoy the support of a significant majority of the population in this struggle. you know, dmitry, i do not agree that the first uh stage of the special military operation was not easy for russia. he was just normal, he was walking, as all the experts predicted.

by the way, i am among them and western american experts in particular, given that it takes into account the total superiority of the russian federation over ukraine, as of february of this year, in aviation, air defense means, high-precision weapons, uh, in general, in general-purpose forces, therefore it was assumed and so it was that the first week, in fact, uh, the airfield network was destroyed. well, not all of them, they are 100%, but uh, a significant part of it, 75 percent, was suppressed, the air defense system was destroyed. eh, well, say e. about naval bases, of course, i would not decide, but the bases. ochakovo in berdyansk were completely destroyed. eh, actually this fleet. although he was not very serious, but nonetheless. uh, most of the aviation was destroyed on the ground,

so, uh, everything went the way it was supposed to go, and it really came to the point that in the month of march, ukraine, uh, agreed to negotiate and, uh, to the month of april was already ready. e draft of the contract, which despite all the falsehoods and e, the comments of the ukrainian side. in general, it was beneficial for ukraine because it was discussed there. about the lugansk donetsk regions. haven't gone yet. speech, not kherson, not zaporozhye and crimea, that's all. but, unfortunately, they intervened, so to speak, as we we say the anglo-saxons arrived johnson accordingly agreed in his position with the american with washington and the command was given. keep resisting. keep resisting. we will help you further. naturally. we went into difficulties, because a grouping of 200,000 people was at the front. uh, 10 on a front of 1,000 km,

in fact, without a second echelon, and it was very difficult to keep. moreover, this is izyum. let's just say, the izyum operation of the ukrainian armed forces, when in fact we left only parts there, not even parts, but divisions of the national guard. of course, they could not hold back the advance of the regular troops, trained by the armed forces of the ukrainian armed forces, so fortunately, fortunately , measures were taken in a timely manner. yes, uh, the command structure is also sometimes, but this is a common problem for us, uh, all companies. i remember the first chechen and the second chechen company. when we have uh, each department is subordinate to its commander, the ministry of defense of the general staff, the national guard

team is not the national guard of the ministry of emergencies, the leadership of the ministry of emergency situations, and so on. after the appointment of a single command of general surovikin, when all this was. and the length of the partial mobilization was created, the second third echelon, equipped, equipped in engineering terms, the line of defense was withdrawn troops were withdrawn from the bridgehead. uh, leaving kherson in kherson is quite logical, because it was difficult to keep it. i think now in the cabin their places in the future. i have a feeling that the preparations are already on the offensive. i won't argue with you. i have a slightly different interpretation, but the beginning of a military operation. well only slightly. uh, but the main thing is, it seems to me, you and i said the same thing, that this operation did not start easily, maybe not on the

first day. i didn't mean that on the first day, but early enough. as you know, not worse. i found out early enough that the team. here he managed to rally and decided to arm and inspire ukraine very quickly . it turned out that for russia it was a special operation, and for uh washington for london for warhava. it was the struggle of the collective west against russia, and now, it seems to me that we said the same thing with you, that in this struggle with this new challenge, and russia managed to not only survive, but also show impressive results, given. what a massive challenge russia faced dmitry and indeed the west turned a special military operation into what pope francis called a world war, because indeed there is a world

war at stake is the nature of the world order. the west is fighting to maintain its hegemony or to revive its hegemony. but after all, this dmitry concerns not only the special military operation, and this applies to the entire situation in the post-soviet space over the past 30 years. whether the war itself was predetermined by the collapse of the soviet union, yes and no. on the one hand, a large number of contradictions have formed. but i will remind you that the soviet union was transformed into the commonwealth of independent states. gorbachev wanted to form a union of sovereign states of the sg, instead in belovezhskaya. pushche created the commonwealth of independent states of the commonwealth, that is, it was assumed that relations between countries, and the key countries of the former soviet union russia ukraine belarus will be partly friendly. they really are between russia and belarus and we have no conflicts,

but the west is like kites. yes, how kites flocked to the post-soviet space immediately after the collapse of the soviet union, they immediately began to stretch. completely different sides immediately began to support, the coming to power of radical nationalists in certain countries of the soviet union immediately begins from the beginning in the nineties, they began to support all anti-russian undertakings, in many respects they initiated anti-russian undertakings in the post-soviet space, and this is exactly the policy. the west led to the fact that as a result of the orange revolution of 2004, the 2014 coup d'état in ukraine, radical nationalists came to power. after all, they did not dominate. there in the ninety-first year, they began to dominate. there already as a result of western policy and politics. the west has led to the fact that centrifugal tendencies have become so intensified. so much tightening

countries of the post-soviet space from russia into other orbits, which is where the prospect of war inevitably arose andrey nikolaevich do you agree with this role? you know, of the west, i naturally agree with the role, but of the west, but with some reservations, because as a person who participated in all these processes, i wrote to analyze and express my opinion on these issues on a daily basis, i cannot but say one very important thing. what should not be forgotten? in ukraine , i knew both the first president kravchuk and kuchma and everyone else. i want to remind you of a very important thing from the very first day after the signing, when they left belovezhskaya square. if yeltsin said that we are creating the foundations for

a new integrated unity in the post-soviet space, kravchuk said, this is an office for a civilized divorce. we do not want to have anything to do with this structure. and it is no coincidence that later this process led to what it led to, therefore, based on this, i will say a tougher thing, but it seems to me that it fits into the framework of some. uh let's say works that our president wrote and some. i believe that this war was preordained and this is a delayed civil war. we are experiencing a delayed civil war. if we believe that the ukrainian people. this is our people, if we consider that this is the territory of russia, we are actually now. we are trying to restore this

state in that form, which was vital and important at one time, both under the tsar and then under e, after the october revolution, the country was also collapsed, but just then in the nineties and in the ninety-first years, y in russia did not find themselves in politics, who thought that a should be defended and b, in fact, there was an agreement in the ninetieth year, and in the ninetieth year, the law on the procedure for secession from the soviet union assumed what dmitry said because therefore by this law. five-year transition period discussion of economic ownership, what can you take? you can’t take something, there, and so on and so forth. not only that, it's very good. i remember the litomans. uh, they said on the sidelines hear, come out and lose and uh, this

the seaport of klaipeda, in my opinion, lose vilnius because you did not come with this. it was given to you later and the same thing could have been said to ukraine if there were politicians in russia who thought at least a step forward, by the way, we even sat elementarily for prime minister yemets on national meteoritarian issues in ukraine in the ninety- second year. and the then chairman of the committee on international affairs evgenia bortsomov speaks to the german, he says he obeys. what are you doing now? uh, attached to this crimea, didn't you say when we told you listen in the ninetieth year, we told you, keep in mind, no one will leave you, crimea will not be given to you , and then i eat. it is now few who

remember, he said, you know, when e wolf falls into a trap. he nibbles on his paw and frees himself and leaves, let's leave and leave. what happened? now you have been given and you think that this is your thanks. we will definitely come back to you on our sides. i have a question for you. uh, and this is already coming to our time, and general buginsky. in general, he gave a rather optimistic picture of the code military operation. i 'll talk to him a little. uh, from the way this operation began to take place at the very beginning and i absolutely agree with his fundamental conclusion that, in general, now russia has shown its capabilities and its will. and, well, if you want your status as such a great power that can

resist the collective west, but what about the unity of the russian people, because washington and other capitals hostile to russia had a big calculation under the pressure of sanctions? with e domestic political the unity of russia that it will first be emphasized, and then it may even collapse, and that president putin, in general, will have to retreat under the pressure of his own public opinion. it seems to me that this did not happen. what does the situation look like, the internal situation from your point of view, your question already has an answer, because if there were, well, the situation, then they would not pose, so the questions they would make in life are important for themselves, that is, the wording itself and the repetition of this question already sounds real concern of both americans and europeans together with them in the fact that it did not work and

, apparently, it will not work more, they are well aware that all the efforts that are aimed at consolidating society today are not in the form of slogans, but in the form of concrete steps leads to the fact that today people realize not only the need for this. and how about the base survival? i would say, maybe this is not entirely correct, but a comfortable survival base is the only possible, because if we look at what happened before february, in principle, the expectation of such life hmm well complacency in all areas of life. it prevailed in our society today after the war, the special military started this special operation. this is also not immediately and moreover, and today not all of society has consolidated this idea, but it realizes today that this is not accidental , moreover, the idea of ​​​​the steps that the leadership of our country is taking today is aimed at demonstrating the most important thing. here you can see what is happening. what conclusion

can be drawn in connection with our transfer, what in fact, the struggle against our country in one form or another, it has always been fought and what happened there in the period after the ninetieth year after the collapse of the soviet union did not mean anything new. as a transition to a new phase of the struggle against our country, nothing else. the forms have changed, the content has remained the same, if we are talking today about the confrontation and conclusions that can be drawn from the previous period and during the period of the soviet union, including the collapse of the soviet union, this is one thing, that the sovereignty of our state is in our own hands. this also applies to the economic sphere. first of all, this applies to the military sphere and the political and all spheres of life and experience, which still needs to be analyzed, how we lived. why did the soviet union collapse? what happened next? it is important for you in one thing, if the answer and understanding of what can be used to ensure that the current period takes everything, then the best that was and ensured progress towards that victory, which we are talking about,

italian comrades. so here. uh, was war inevitable already in 1991, how asserts andronicus in all or all the same, but eh. there was a big one. high probability. a great threat, but inevitability , arose precisely as a result of the continuation of a hostile policy. west against our country, which we have indeed observed since the first half of the nineties. you can remember baku tbilisi ceyhan. and you can remember goam, yes, and other structures that were then created in the post-soviet space and in which ukraine played the central role. the first year, which means in fact the entire ninety-first year, the person who held the title and held the position of president of the union of soviet socialist republics surrendered this country. i was also even still at ninety

, it began, so on what date that i was completely in one and that is, by this time it was clear that the union would fall, although there were optimists there were romantics, and even those who believed. well, far away this should not happen, because this could never be better if the soviet union continued to rise until today. and it could be done, then there was no such confrontation, no war with the west, at worst, somewhere on the periphery in latin america, there i don’t know in south africa some of these regional conflicts, to whom often. well, like the soviet union, the united states is the current war for many reasons, but if the result of the collapse of the soviet union is completely obvious to me, and here's what else i wanted to add and all sorts of

memories when they say the soviet union often sounds. e question. why wasn't he considered? that's all, like they wanted according to a non-ferendum stay, but i mean, there's a majority and so on. so they defended the point is that that gigantic lesson was played by the personalization of the political processes of the soviet union by that time, no matter how much we loved it. i think that's the majority. and if all of them present consider this their motherland and they treated him like that and he was weak gorbachev, who failed everything, surrendered, including between part of this politician, and he was opposed by yeltsin, whom i liked many and as a republic he was such his own mini yeltsin well, there, here, which many people liked me for many reasons, and critics wrote about him inside the country. here, but he touched the political giant in relation to gave that there would be nothing at all for condoms.

god forbid, if you survive, at least uh, hmm, some kind of russia there, if so, but this is still a man, well, and so on. all clear. here is the reason, but in relation to these soviet republics, the former yeltsin turned out to be gorbachev . he surrendered everything, having received power, he did not need anything. for what reasons can long to argue, and here i will give such an example , one then-incumbent president of one of the central asian republics told me about the next summit, this same cis that no one took seriously then, that is, official official propaganda said that it was wonderful, almost better than the soviet union here and almost better than the european union well, which then was almost completely formed, because our former friendship has historical roots. and

now, and now plus and all that stuff . so he talked about the cis summits in which all the yeltsins and these ukrainians, of course, were also presidents then, and he says that there was one president among us, also from this region, who was always silent , he voted for all decisions, did not utter a single word for three years. he endured so much and then says, i understood why yes, and when he first said his word, it was exactly the opposite of what moscow suggested , he still did not believe. he kept thinking, well, one day this president from russia with priority with moscow will hit the apostle with his fist and say it will be as i said, as it was the former waited a year, waited two waited. you are even the most patient to me, and the ukrainians immediately understood this when their fish was given away. well, something to think about, well, plus their cunning, not eastern. that's mine with them, so it's completely obvious.

e that only a strong politician can out of such a critical situation in which the soviet union found itself, there really was a crisis. it all started there, and it began to linger for a long time, but only strong politicians can shove in their direction in favor of the nation in favor of the country, but weak politics like, so that he did not speak even in a good situation, while the soviet union was without opposition, the second superpower measure with the army corresponds and so on. a weak politician can lose a superpower at cards in domino, especially in this big fucking a strong politician to save. even a weak superpower. weakened, this did not happen. we have consequences. but, saying goodbye to the topic of the internal unity of russia, i'm sure you know how much they write to the western press, and people from them are young educated people who

decided to leave russia and did not just decide to leave russia, well, in general, they said that russia was waging an unprovoked aggressive war. and what they don't even understand. like those of us standing at this table. and how can we not be indignant at this war. and they even say that we all need to be judged in the traffic police . i don’t understand, but only those who go to television or work in the public service, or the entire russian people in general, because they have shown themselves to be inadequate. well, i want to ask him, after all, from your point of view vision, as it was, this is not an easy year. uh, he was, uh, not easy, actually, and for many people living in russia, how is it that putin managed to maintain his popularity, and that there are no signs that a significant part of the population

is really rejecting the course government, how did it happen? well, as it turned out, this question is probably very difficult for a short answer, but in my opinion in my opinion. uh, words and actions were found that, in the depths of their souls, all people were waiting for, regardless of age and in these driving directions. they are associated with one sovereignty. we want to be independent, but the answers are given our independence is the result of our own efforts. no one will give us this, moreover, we must achieve sovereignty. this is through overcoming the resistance offered to all of us, and when the west felt that the concept of sovereignty is not a slogan, but already the norm of life of understanding, extending to absolutely all spheres of life, then he realized and turned on all

the tools that actually opened the eyes of all of us even more. i think it's necessary say not those who left. and those who remained , and these and all who remained, are the country that is not just the most expensive, because this is not even discussed. this is not just a resurgent country. she has made herself known today. how is it for you a state filled with awareness of its own significance, and in the end dmitry reacts to one word, and educated people go there in the field of mathematics, physics, an educated person, an american and an educated russian the same, but here in the humanitarian sphere these are different things, these educated people, firstly, they need to be educated in a drunken ideological direction. a. secondly, they hated russia better here, they just

liked that russia of the nineties there for a number of reasons, so there was nothing smart about it - their reaction was predictable. at the end, i would like to return to the key idea that vitaly comrade expressed, and whether the military conflict in ukraine was predetermined by the collapse of the soviet union, this is debatable, but what is absolutely certain is that hybrid war with the west. that world war that pope francis says was inevitable after the collapse of the soviet union, it seems to me absolutely certain, because it was the collapse of the soviet union that created such an imbalance in the world that allowed the united states to engage in outright arbitrariness in the world. oh, to reject the international right to rape yugoslavia, invade iraq, destroy libya, and so on, it was the collapse of the soviet union that allowed the united states to create, in fact, a colonial world economic system, it was the collapse of the

soviet union that allowed the united states. start nato expansion to the east and draw key countries of the post-soviet space into the nato orbit, which in turn predetermined the military conflict. and, of course , certainly one of the most important results of the year is this global hybrid war. but another no less important outcome of the year is the global protest against american hegemonism and non-colonialism, which we are now seeing and in the forefront of which russia is now russia is trying to recreate and recreate a new world balance creates a new counterbalance to the united states. and that is global. the structure, which is also being formed right before our eyes, its formation is also the most important result. this year, from the point of view of international relations, will not allow the already united states. to continue to pursue the policy that they

pursued after the end of frozen. i want to share one observation on the question of how inevitable the conflict was. i realized that conflict, uh, was inevitable back in 1994 . and when me uh, i just headed the center, which is called the center of the mixen, called the shtraptal, here, uh, who was, uh, the person in charge, and in the state department for the post-soviet space. well, besides, there was a personal friend of the president, and he shared his impressions with me about the meeting that president yeltsin had just met with him. teams and he said dmitry don't worry, we are not blind what is happening in russia we see that in russia there are serious problems with the authorities. and we just won’t give money there, we’ll show them tuff, love

and fluff is tough love love and says mittens, and i thought that if the united states has a new policy towards russia that will show, uh, love in his mittens, then some kind of conflict in some form. it is simply inevitable, because it seemed to me that russia would not be able to agree to such a relationship. andrey kozliv, the then minister of foreign affairs, he could agree, but russia, i thought and still think dmitry could not say your words. actually confirmed my first that it was the policy of the west that ultimately made a military conflict inevitable, but the collapse of the soviet union, in turn, created the prerequisites for the west to pursue such a policy, we will now break through for a few moments, and then we will talk about the

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reds won and the creation of the soviet union cannot be considered in isolation from this victory. and in fact, this victory became and and led to the creation of the soviet union, the creation of the soviet the union drew a line under the victory of the reds in the civil war. and, of course, the creation of the ussr cannot be seen in isolation from the october socialist revolution. yes , the bolsheviks reassembled parts of the russian empire as a result. victory in the civil war, of course, without finland without poland, but they created not just a state. they created ideological projects through politics. they created a springboard for the world socialist revolution and the existence of the soviet union was inseparable from the communist and marxist leninist ideology. yes this ideology re-glued the scattered parts of the russian empire and strengthened the position of the soviet union in the international arena in the 21st century. but as soon as this ideology weakened, as soon as it fizzled out, as soon as they

began to abandon it, the country fell apart, but how the russian empire could not exist without a monarchy. the soviet union probably could not exist without ideology. when creating the soviet union, two ideas competed with each other: the stalinist idea of ​​autonomization, that is, the entry of the former regions of the russian empire into the rsfsr on rights of autonomy and the leninist idea of ​​a union of equal national republics with the right to secede won in the end, but the leninist idea. uh, lenin's approach, mikhail yurievich, here. first, tell us a little more about these approaches, and why did lenin's idea prevail? yes, of course, lenin is the leader of the world proletariat, but, but his revolutions were, probably, ideological reasons. well, firstly, i would like to say that, of course, the civil war. here , economically, it ended with the introduction of nep a in the twenty-first year about political,

of course the creation of the soviet union and a. thoughts about what the union of the soviet union would be, the new state was conceived, then, as the union of e, the republics of europe and asia, socialist from the very beginning. yes, it arose back in the twenty-first year at the genoa conference. we know that at that time soviet russia represented all the republics that were then soviet, and this thought continued even among the people in the national republics. e of the head of the communist they asked questions. how are we going to proceed? what will the new union be? directly on the territory of the former russian empire? yes, we won the civil war, but what's next and and there were questions, of course, and ukraine was here, of course, there were questions and belarus because of the caucasian federation that was created, but the most important thing that i often see today in historical discussions, what is the project of lenin and federalization. he was faithful after all, because somehow it was impossible to avoid. let's just say that there is discord in the

republics, and there are antagonisms between them. if you do not give, here is the national component, that is, the right to exit and the right to free development of voluntary entry, and stalin's plan for autominization, which began to be developed. well, in principle, from the middle of 22 years by august. he was ready because stalin was people's commissar for nationalities. she presented him directly to the commission on education. ussr lenin open it. but he was stalin, he was in defective, because he, as it were, in soviet russia in the rsfsr, he fastened. ah, the republic, in fact. it was a new edition of, shall we say, the prison of the peoples, about which he was constantly talking. lenin well, in fact, it seems to me that this is not at all the case, because when stalin was preparing this project. he clearly explained that joining the rsr of these republics gives them everything, that is, national cultural autonomy, and the development of the science of culture, and, uh, internal politics, education is everything except

that, in fact, defense is what these republics have long dreamed of without a sphere. they simply could not keep this defense; it showed, just a civil war. and here lenin, of course, but insisting on federalization project. he clearly foresaw one and the main thing, it seems to me, and, by the way, ioffe wrote about this, this was the deputy people's commissar for foreign affairs then , uh, who communicated very often with the population. that is, it was a concession so that once the world revolution did not take place in europe, yes, it was temporarily postponed, but there are countries in asia that are colonial, like india, and either semi-annulment. like some kind, if they enter the future of this union yes of soviet republics, then they should feel themselves in it. ah, well, just comfortable, that is, to speak their own language, to have their own foreign policy , maybe even to have their own army, but they will be here, uh, join only if they are completely in the union, yes, and lenin said we are going to this mortar. this is us on an equal

footing. here, in fact, this idea, and , uh, seized lenin so, if i may say so, he clearly adhered to all subsequent, let's say, actions of stalin that lenin was sick, he, as it were, led this process. they went exactly in this direction. stalin could not, of course, refuse once he led this process on the basis of the federalization union. how could he refuse it in the future? that is, let's say the ideal secretary of stalin's accusation is that why he did not subsequently cancel it. let's say this federal unit. they are meaningless , another thing is that the soviet union is held together. as you rightly said, this is a structure and a single ideology for this great project, which at that time, well, was popular all over the world, it is definitely this project. eh, stood the test of time. that is. i think that here, indeed, uh, there is a question between lenin and stalin, how it was all

discussed, and so on, but i am categorically opposed to uh, when they say that supposedly the leninist concept defeated stalin, this was implemented and they began to implement their own concept. therefore, there was nothing federal in the soviet union, except for the chamber of nationality, where people gathered and represented, there and so on. it was federal, as they said in soviet times, in form, socialist in content, a more unitary state. i'm like a person who has been engaged in political regime all his life, he has never seen a more unitary state in the world. here is the secretary of all creativity of armenia tells me. we can’t even have a cleaning lady if we don’t write every party, and they won’t let us down there. this

cleaning lady’s headquarters, that is, all issues were resolved in the center under stalin, when the regime became so strong and powerful, when all opposition groups were destroyed, there, and so on and so forth, a fantastic unanimity of steel reigned, but never in thoughts could come, what does he want? revoke this right. and right up to secession, because this is such a unity, this is such a unitary state, that i say in my sleep it would never occur to anyone that such a question would be raised. she came when that's not in a dream, she had him at the first congress. but it's been three or four years now. of this country,

but how can you keep the country if you don’t have an ideology and don’t have basic ones, plus the discrediting of all the power structures of the kgb, the army of the ministry of internal affairs well, of course, after that, blansbergis could afford to get in touch and to tell. if you do not include the question of the adoption of the law on the procedure for the secession of national republics from the soviet union, our delegation is leaving, well, someone of the older generation must remember this, they began and began to leave, and this is the poor chairman of the constitutional commission, sergei sergeevich, i

forgot alexei, yes, where you, what's there and so on. then i had to tell everyone the lady is included in this issue. that is, why i say this, that as a rule such questions arise. not because conceptually there were differences between lenin and stalin simply at that stage in 1989 there was nothing left of the soviet union. it would not have been in the constitution. here i have a million works on this topic, where mikhail sergeevich, as he said , the process has already begun, so autonomization and even the tradition of independence has gone so that it was no longer possible to do anything and the last thing i wanted to say. outstanding people spaniards after

the death of franco here is suarez that they are all political scientists who study transitions know this example. the elite gathered and said never we will not give opportunities to valencia uh catalonia let's go free competitive elections before the free competitive elections of the federal government, because they understood that these countries, having received freedom and free elections before the federal government, would not say, goodbye. how did our allied republics gorbachev turned out to be illegitimate, although he was the basis of the legitimacy of all these landsbergs and others. and those who passed their elections, they said goodbye. you are an authoritarian totalitarian, generally delusional person. we don't need you.

here's what happened. you are absolutely right. when you say that the soviet union was federal in form but unitary absolutely true, but you also confirmed it. actually, what i started with was that the soviet union was a policy, an ideological project, the existence of which was hardly possible apart from that ideology, apart from that party. around which and on the basis of which it was created, and mikhail yuryevich said that the soviet union was considered as such a proto-federation, into which countries with the victorious socialism, yes, either in europe yes , it was planned to be expected, at least a socialist revolution in germany, yes, uh, or in asian countries. he assumed that they would join the soviet union as union republics, but mikhail yuryevich and the world socialist revolution, as we know, did not happen and stalin already began

to talk about socialism in a single e, in a single one. e country. but, but still, was it possible in this connection, when, well, it’s clear that, by the way, the people’s republic of china did not join the soviet the union did not join. yes, even the socialist countries after the war. here, i was waiting for mongo for this . how did the opportunity become apparent around the middle of the second half of the 20th century? that the original construction, which was created for the world socialist revolution, well, does not correspond to, uh, the real process in the world. could this have been changed in some way? and, because, well, yes, of course, the communist party is an ideology, but no one is immune from the weakening of both. and actually that was impossible. how do you say and in a terrible dream to imagine the performance

took place in the eighties under gorbachev, and everything and everything fell apart. that's what you think just entered, which was not officially part of the russian empire, but came in the forty-fourth year. this, by the way, is a historical fact, but i must say that when they say that a delayed-action mine was laid at the foundation of the soviet union, it seems to me that there were at least 2 mines. that's what they always say. this is the absence in the treaty of the allied transcript of the 26th clause of the exit free is. and how to do this was not spelled out until the end of the soviet union. yes , there was no need, but the second, it seems to me that the mine is slow in action. it is even more powerful is the absolute refusal of the bolshevik leadership. and those who created the soviet union and those who came to replace them, the rejection of the idea of ​​​​a certain continuity. so we started with this, that it was like the russian empire and like the bolsheviks and then the subsequent communists did not have the russian empire. and on this account there were no doubt.