there, a dream to imagine under stalin happened in the eighties under gorbachev, and everything and everything fell apart. that's what you think just entered, which was not officially part of the russian empire, but came in the forty-fourth year. this, by the way, is a historical fact, but i must say that when they say that a delayed-action mine was planted at the foundation of the soviet union, it seems to me that there were at least two mines. here is what they always say is the absence in the agreement of the allied decryption of clause 26, the exit is free. and how to do it was not spelled out until the end of the soviet union yes , there was no need, but the second seems to me just slow in action. it is even more powerful is the absolute refusal of the bolshevik leadership. and those who created the soviet union and those who came to replace the rejection of the idea of ​​a certain continuity. so we started with this, that it seems to be both the russian empire and seemingly not the russian empire among the bolsheviks and then the subsequent communists, but there were no doubts about this. and for lenin's generation for

generations of khrushchev, brezhnev and gorbachev and yeltsin and these are all bolshevik communist leaders, including the first president of russia, of course, an empire for them - it was a dirty word and any association. with this concept, in general , she was, uh, extremely negative, therefore, yeltsin, when he was there, wrote his comrades-in-arms 3 years after the collapse of the soviet union, notes of the president. he writes that he was destroying one of the last empires. and he did it with a light heart. yes, because he listed that the spanish empire disappeared, which poptsov tsar boris wrote a book about him. he enjoyed the book, and he was pleased, because it was about the empire. and this was about him personally. but what about e his evaluation? she was such an entire empire collapsed . america writes that he tried to control almost half the world. well, even then it happened to her. he

wrote in the ninety-fourth year, therefore, the soviet union was not a pity. and although, of course, it seems to me that if the political elite in the ninetieth year had an idea that they were breaking not only the socio-economic structure in the country, which may not have been a pity. he often showed his inefficiency, but they break a really huge territory that has been created for centuries. it seems to me that his process may have gone, uh, in a different direction. this one is literal. he was pulling a chair out from under the accordion. it was the soviet union, he pulled out and remained the leader himself, so the theoretical constructions are so far away. i worked for many years . i know well. now we are still discussing those mines that did not necessarily have to explode, but they still were laid down during the formation of the soviet union exactly as it was formed. and here's another thing i would like to note one thing, first of all . the name is the union of soviet

socialist republics there is nothing national non-russian, neither ukrainian nor kazakhstan, never any soviet and socialist republics, that is, an emphasis on politics and ideology, and secondly, how could lenin not fix the right of the union republics to secede from the soviet union if vladimir ilyich lenin was the author of the principle the right of the nation to self-determination up to the branch. after all, it was lenin from the beginning back in 1903 at the second congress of the rkpb. if my memory serves me right, this principle was formulated, and only then woodrow wilson said it from the very beginning. this is lenin , this is lenin at first, and then already in january the eighteenth, this is a little later. yes, i would like to point out one more such fact. eh, there was no predestination at times. of the soviet union in the ninety-first year

absolutely not, this is my deep conviction, but here is what you said correctly what andronicus said. this is the great project building, when a bright future was determined, this is the building of communism. this is new. well, in fact, an earthly paradise was built on earth, that is, sergei bulgakov quite right. yes, uh, another thing is that we now, of course, understand where many then understood that it was utopian. but it was a breakthrough. it was an attempt. she connected. many countries in the world in general, then people believed in it, but when this mobilization economy, how worth it, this project helped to win the great patriotic war there man into space, but to build a nuclear shield, in the end, but to develop yes, the innocent heights of culture and science. but when the militia development of the country came to this, it slowed down somewhat, and then even came to this. well, what was it called under the former, right? stagnation or stagnation there, although what kind of stagnation

if the economy of the soviet union developed 3-5 35%, although it used to be 16% per year, this is different, but here it was of great importance that then the leaders in the sixties and seventies, even before gorbachev, they should were to offer society something new, yes, a new, er, the situation in the world in the country. yes, people do. so take care of their personal gets separate apartments, rather more individualism. ok then. yes, but there are some common goals that need to be set. and this, uh, that would have been accepted. all of our society was then soviet and which would have allowed him to be mobilized. yes, not in such, not with such jerks, as it was before, to mobilize on a new development, this did not happen, and in the end, gorbachev well, how tolerant says he, and did not commit crimes. he just made mistakes, yes, which are worse than crime and it has come to the point that we

have received. gorbachev about the fendernic had all the leverage to stop this decay. and it's not just strength. here , not only power here and economic, but the fact is that, uh, yes, the west, of course, but the fact is that one person then really wanted power, and the other person did not want to give it away for anything. i mean yeltsin gorbachev played a critical decisive role in the collapse to the word about the role of the individual in history. and alexander mikhailovich well , the bolsheviks not only formed the soviet union on the basis of the union of equal republics, but they also began to cut the borders in a completely different way, yes, but giving part of historical russia to the new union republics. actually, donbass, uh, little russia. here. uh, like this, like this, uh, as a result of the bolshevik policy of cutting borders, ukraine was formed, uh, ukraine

of the ninety-first year. and why did they do it? could it have been somehow prevent? they were also guided by ideology or there were some economic considerations. i think that we have come to the answer to this question, because it was already believed that this is a single state and the processes that take place inside are not as important as those outside, so you could afford some excesses in terms of both borders and processes that were connected there with the appointment and reappointment of leaders there, but from what it happened here, because it was considered as a general already implemented project. here i would here came back economic thoughts , moreover, because here too lies answers, in fact, ideas, who you don’t call, are not allowed, large cameras. it is all of humanity that has lived and will live on the idea of ​​creating an ideal society, when a person would simply live well, this, by the way, to the question of an example of what to be and what we need to avoid when building or when answering a question. what do we need to do today

when we talk about the economic sphere, the main thing that has already been mentioned was not only the growth rates, great in those periods that called the sixties there was a thirty. well, the so-called 30 years, which made it possible to give the soviet union a fantastic breakthrough and the result of this economic development were fantastic figures. we have life expectancy, which is no different from the manufacturer of life expectancy in europe, yes there 603, in my opinion, sixty-nine years, men have fantastic results, as a result of economic policy. and in what in my opinion, and the error is that, unfortunately? this idea, uh, planted on the economic model is not received. scientific answers to me did not become scientific scientific. as such, the economic policy of socialist economy did not become a poly- economy union because it did not provide answers to key questions. economics of capitalism. so the division is conditional, it gave a correct explanation of what a market model is, but politically it was not born economical and when we talk about that. what happened but we must understand the goal

and the means, and when these goals, seemingly understandable, are filled with means that do not correspond to the level at all. here you are correctly mentioned square meters there, i don’t know, kilograms, liters, centimeters. this did not quickly answer the question. but this consumption of the spiritual is much higher and richer than the material, and unfortunately, the gap could not be bridged for us either, when we talk about the current stage and the experience that we must learn. first of all, this should clearly indicate the purpose of assigning funds from here to the new economic model, respectively, not any. the fears towards the roller state in the economy are no fears that the market will be erased from the process. these are two components of one whole and the market and planning. and here is this new economic model with confidence with the correct formulation of the goal. yes, respectively. here, by what means it is necessary before it seems, nevertheless, they must rehabilitate the word empire ugu them. take colonial french

colonial english spanish and that russian american empire listen to this and the euro, and the european union is yes too and when we talk about the russian empire - the soviet union was built on completely different foundations a lot of this took the relationship of peoples, by the way, if today we are talking about some kind, perhaps the revival of the union, well, yes. remember catherine ii, because catherine ii during her reign. solved two problems. the first is the national challenge. yes, this is the return of the unification of the russian people in the west, yes, with the help of the partition of poland. although russia was not its initiators , russia was the second - this is an imperial task. that is, this is novorossiya. this is a huge territory that we have been developing and the soviet union picked up this idea without infringing on nicotination, without infringing on any nation, as it did not infringe, and directly on the russian empire. this is the task, all the more so before us today, the great goal, after all, let's talk, we had no

task there about the soviet union, there was no new project. we have not just a project, we have a great task of the survival of our people, the preservation of the russian people of the great russia of the russian world, which includes many nationalities and you see , this project can really unite and give us new strength, as then, for example, in the twenty-second year, vladimir nikolaevich so i want to ask you a question. and it is known that in the forty-fifth year after the victory in the great patriotic war , joseph stalin at one of the receptions raised a toast to the russian people and said that the russian people are generally a special people within the soviet union, which, by the way, contradicted the original genesis of the soviet union after all in your opinion. ah. was it possible to form some other bond for the soviet union besides ideology and the communist party you know, for the soviet union, after all, it was so rigidly arranged that any other bond, it did not fit. everything is in the head of the creators of the soviet union and their successors,

even this rhetorical toast for the soviets for the russian people, which stalin brought in the forty-fifth year. he didn't actually return to this thought any more, it was like that. well, if you like, thank you yes to the russian people, which is really more of a patience booster, as he said, and for what really is. well what can i say most the red army that defeated nazism, nevertheless, consisted of proportionally simply yes from the people who proportionally prevailed in the soviet union, but they did not return to this anymore. and it's always been like that. well, as they say, there the struggle of the kremlin towers during the soviet rule of the russian party into the ring to carve its own original project of autonomization. this means a big rsfsr instead of esov. i think not, because, but certain steps have been taken since the thirtieth year before the war are very important. i think that without them we might not won the war when the concept of patriotism returned, even if not russian, not russian soviet, when they left. textbooks on civil history

that replaced these completely stupid courses on the history of the class struggle, which were taught at school and universities, when the films came out with the corresponding peter the great alexander nevsky and so on, when e was revived, they tried to revive some element of continuity from the previous form e of russian statehood. but these were only elements, and he was very dosed. and i i think that after all, the origin of stalin is social, no matter how social bygraunty. here, yes, his origin among the revolutionaries internationalists it seems to me even with all the determination. but if you can, so to speak, political creativity. yes, the opportunity and the moral right, from his point of view, would not last long for him to be hostile to russian nationalism, which was always the opposite of proletarian internationalism. even in the most dosed very limited forms. although the influence was called he couldn't stop sketching it. yes, because that otherwise the party could not be. they speak in

unity. i have things very briefly, but, in principle, it requires a detailed one. first of all, i would like to answer your question. could it have been preserved without ideology? yes, of course, because there are several things that make a country unified without ideology. could keep in unity. this space is a market, but we did not have a market, there were no discredited institutions. and we are destroying mediology and the political institution. this is the first and second much more important question. but it just requires a whole transmission, but i'll say after uh stalin's death already nothing could be done by the soviet union stalin created an economic model that could only work with him, and he is in charge, because it's just a

lot of work so far. i think this is an absolutely brilliant work of a braking mechanism in the political system and ways to overcome that the first book came out in 88 , which was released without censorship, yes. for the state to develop a social system, a political system, and so on, as the great bucket said, three dynamizing conflict things have to be well they all studied the english system the conflict between the politician and the bureaucracy, but because in the angelic system the politician becomes a minister and he has a conflict with the bureaucracy the conflict between the legislature and the executive and the third when it is a conflict between a charismatic leader standing above the political system. and the whole political

social and so on system, and then here we have, at the end of the twenties there was no longer a conflict between the politician and the bureaucracy , by this time we no longer had a conflict between the legislative executive power, there is only one, dynamizing element - this is the charismatic leader stalin at the head of the political system, whose decisions can not be unrealized, because their implementation is monitored by law enforcement agencies and party propaganda that works for implementation. for these purposes, with his departure, this model proved to be absolutely inadequate and therefore it turned from a totalitarian regime to the nature of the regime. bureaucratic , many believed that after stalin khrushchev totalita, that is, a system that stagnates

inside there are no elements that would dynamize. so ideology was both a strength and a weakness of the soviet union and many ideological dogmas. of course, they laid those time bombs that exploded with the weakening of the central government and with the refusal, but of the communist ideology. this is an important lesson for us. and now we will now break through for a few moments and then we will talk about the role of the soviet union in the world. my daughter he has a major new series ofiget pavel priluchny

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neighbors and so on. all this is intended to legitimize russophobia and nationalism in the post-soviet and post-communist countries and, of course, to weaken the current russia as the legal successor of the soviet union. therefore, we need to remember what the soviet union really was and preserve this memory for posterity. let's remember what the soviet union was like with its heroic and at the same time tragic history, for me personally the soviet union is not only the country of my childhood and patronymic. this is a great victory forty-fifth year, this superpower, which ensured the strategic stability of the second half of the 20th century and led a coalition with more than ten, was a state of theoretical orientation. this is the country that was the first to go into space. this is decolonization - this is the development of many developing countries, this is an ideology, which, by the way, is based on the idea of ​​​​equality of justice and freedom and played an

important role in reducing the distortions of capitalism, but after the collapse of the soviet union, all these distortions flourished again throughout beauty and led, in fact, to the current economic crises. dmitry you remember the soviet union much earlier than i remember him. when the soviet union collapsed, he was 12 years old. what is the soviet union for you? well , when the soviet union collapsed, i lived in the city of washington and just headed the carnegie center for russia and eurasia, and i began to travel to russia accompanying president nixon, and for me, in my attitude to the soviet union, more decisive is not only that i was naturally born in the soviet union. but what am i i left it, and when i left it, i left it quite consciously and wrote, er,

a statement to the supreme soviet of the ussr where i asked for permission not to leave, but to the united states in connection with, as i wrote, my fundamental disagreement with the soviet system. and i had a fundamental disagreement with the soviet system. although we worked with viktor kuvaldin at the institute of world economy. and in general, the system. e was to me in e. well, let's not say it too harshly, but it really seemed to me that this was a system. well, let's say so by that time by the beginning of the seventies . it seemed to me that this system was no longer only effective, and not only, if you like, lost its momentum, but it seemed to me that it was a system. generally. in general, i don't want to sound like solzhenitsyn.

but it seemed to me that it was built on fundamentals, when people like uh viktor kuvaldin, and me, uh, it was very difficult to be honest in our professional activities. let's face it, i didn't know how to do it, and because i took my profession very seriously. i am decided to leave. i succeeded, but i also found out other things about the soviet union. and when i lived in the soviet union and especially when i left, first of all, i found out. uh, dmitri, what things that seemed to me to be fundamental defects, uh, of the soviet system. i learned that this is a defective human nature and, uh, besides the general great bureaucracy, and that many people i left. uh, as i thought from moscow i came to them. well, the second. i also realized

one very important thing. what, in general, is the soviet union, as you just said played a very important positive role in the world, because the absolute power of one power corrupts the fact that the soviet union did not allow one power to have such power. what is it like? it seems to me that there was a very important historical positive role. e of the soviet union, but there were, as you said, other moments , and very tragic ones. i would like to ask vitaly tretyakov perhaps about the most, or at least one of the most tragic moments. this, of course, is collectivization, which is now presented in kiev not only as a tragedy, but also as a conscious crime. specifically designed against the ukrainian

people. tell me what yes, of course, i am not such a specialist. there's therefore a question before definitely. uh, i have that, if i also say at night, then the paphos of the first performance and the second. still, i can’t help but treat the soviet union too, even though soon each of you did something. for me, the soviet union is , first of all, my motherland, this determines 95% of my attitude, as the motherland for me , russia and the soviet union are synonymous , which, by the way, has always been in the west in the soviet time and even russia was more often called the soviet union than actually councils. uh, these are these without going into details, who is here a giant essential is, of course, a superpower one of wow, having gained. we were afraid there, anything we had a claim to start with our own big thing, well, we

were not afraid at all, external threats. here are the tales that there in the soviet union someone was afraid of an american nuclear strike. i don't know, maybe somewhere someone is not. it was simply impossible for someone to attack us, because we were so powerful great, the mighty soviet union influences everything else and absolutely agrees. and now what about the events in history? the first is life experience with professional experience with reading many books, of which one often contradicts the other even on the same facts. i concluded that there is something for some reason you can determine, uh, your position, true or false what you write. eh, write, author or speak, i won't go

into details. but what they say is collectivization. i'm completely in the west it's quite obvious with and what called goldmore, by the way, we have adopted this term is absolutely wrong hunger. yes , goldmore is a special prayer for hunger. it wasn't like that at all. it absolutely wasn't, of course. eh, one of the proof. stalin did not do this. now now, back to stalin, i will say specifically. well to explain their position, so the situation is her cattle. eh, i knew, of course, in soviet times. there , through a lot of books through journalism, and when gorbachev took out this special folder there, as he said, everything is written there and so on. i'm there and it's ours. well, as the poles and the west are exploiting this topic, right now, at the moment, i want more and more sensations. what's in the kitten? we killed those polish

officers. it’s clear that i mean that , of course, we didn’t have any special starvation about the holodomor, and the ukrainians didn’t have a lot of evidence for this , numbers and everything else, and the famine was, of course, seized what they called surpluses for now and so that sell to the west, and for the industrialization of the previous year, this is all was, so here you need uh that tragedy and uh, positive negative in the great story can not be, only uh, everything positive this story of the garden of eden. there is something in this spirit, there must be such attitudes towards the peasantry. in my opinion. this is still a problem. uh, what they can’t understand, and so who is this story for the bolsheviks in the city, everything is clear. the working class is a progressive doctor, well, and so on

everything is clear christianity, strange as it may seem, christianity is multi-layered in the kuban one everything sees another in central russia the third and this is the middle middle peasants, the kulaks and the poor, it was real, and here the bolsheviks of various factions shied away, because these should be treated well, but these should be treated badly. well, and so on. uh, that is, why did the bolsheviks get confused in the peasant question. they just got confused and went the simplest way, when they did what before them, when it was necessary to get these funds for industrialization, but they received resisters from this christian economy, and naturally. here they are passive comb mushrooms, what was then, tem more that in the civil war rich christianity. it has always been on the side of the white. it was a very cool enemy

in the literal sense of the word. here well, all these circumstances are not obvious enough, but if at least one of them. and now they are being used, like this supposedly golden goldmore there was no famine, strange for many politicians, but in many respects inevitable in relation to christianity of the communist party, e.g., then the kpb, it certainly corresponded to the consequences. uh, well, taking into account all the circumstances, i repeat, but i was already earning money to build factories, uh, and everything else . and so, and many accuse the soviet leadership of spending a lot of money on the arms race, but at the same time, in the west, even many call the cold war period a long peace,

because there were no wars between the great powers, by the way, the intensity great power confrontation now. the confrontation between the us and russia is much sharper than the confrontation that was even in the worst periods of the cold war. but what can you say about the role of the soviet union as a pillar of strategic stability, as a pillar of a long peace during the cold war? and how e one of the main foundations of the yalta-boys system. you are absolutely right that the soviet union, in general, with its uh, military power, and its military power, uh, in general, by the end of the sixties, when we reached full parity with the united states, first of all, in nuclear weapons, because according to general-purpose forces. we have always outperformed the west in the cold war, and so, for example, tactical nuclear weapons. in general, but the united states first appeared and e,

the presence of tactical nuclear weapons, as a compensator, the superiority of the warsaw pact countries was explained. with the soviet union in the general forces now, of course, everything turned stock on its head, but then it was just like that and uh. exactly, that parity, uh, which had the united states in the soviet union was the basis of strategic stability, then a system of treaties appeared, because naturally by the end of the sixties, when the united states of his soviet union also had 30,000 mine charges. uh, different powers. in general, but it became clear that, well, it is not necessary to destroy this terrestrial spherical object 10 times one is quite enough, and therefore a plus. this is a very expensive pleasure, an expensive toy to keep such an arsenal of americans in this regard. uh, more pragmatic, which is roughly shown by the example of missile defense, when we signed an agreement we will ask from the second year.

uh, when each side was allowed to have 100 anti-missiles to cover one area of ​​your choice, well, of course, we had no hesitation in the soviet union. it was the moscow industrial region. but the united states. of course, they could not cover washington there or either new york or los angeles for political reasons, so they chose the base of uh intercontinental ballistic missiles, which from a military point of view, it makes absolutely no sense. well, after 5 years, they took it and simply abandoned it, because it is meaningless and expensive, but this is strategic stability, which began to be based on a system of agreements, primarily an agreement on medium and shorter range missiles and an agreement on pro-e-e and e , several treaties of the cis, they really served as the basis of strategic stability, because they did not allow any of the parties

to achieve. uh, some kind of advantage primarily in the nuclear field. uh, but eighty the seventh year it was so to speak, here is the first. i consider the mistake that the soviet leadership made. not even a mistake. these were conscious actions on the part of gorbachev when we agreed to an agreement that was obviously unfavorable for us by exchanging. uh, a really deployed group of missiles to the plans of the united states to deploy their group, when, uh, we just agreed to exactly this, but to the main demand of the united states to destroy our system. and how that she did not fall, and they did not hesitate to speak too mobile too. uh, big export too big potential for modernization. yes, even in nuclear equipment. no, we don’t agree to this, we had to destroy it, then the intrigue agreement, which they successfully came out with. here is the last contract, which is also in the

twenty-sixth year. i think, almost uh, in bose after that, uh, everything, so to speak, fell down. yes, there were mistakes, of course, 3.5 million people, the soviet armed forces were a little redundant. now we come to millions, because it is believed that 1% of the population is just that, uh, golden the standard for expressed forces that you need to have is 1.5 million. for us, this is just one percent, and 3.5 million. this was a bit too much plus for the soviet union. here it is. uh, the soviet system, where every secretary of the coma wanted to have a factory about themselves, which you . uh, various weapon systems led to the fact that we had a bunch of submarine projects . we had a bunch. uh, uh, anti-air defense systems, but in general, enough mistakes have been made and, uh, unfortunately, uh, now uh, the concept of strategic stability. uh, he's leaving

gradually. e into oblivion, because i consider the achievement of some new agreements by the united states in the current conditions. eh, totally unbelievable. well, it seems to me that russia is trying not only trying. it still maintains strategic stability, but not at the same price as the soviet union did, and not necessarily with the help of those treaties that took place during the cold war. still, the strategic is determined by non-treaties, but still we need to have then, if we want to have such stability of strategic stability is politics. in principle, but then you need to achieve parity by the united states, first of all. in the economic field , they say, i want to ask you, uh, about something that, from my point of view, is the most fundamental. that was the superpower. uh, there were difficulties, there were disappointments. in general, there was a great superpower. and so i lived in

washington at the end of the seventies, and most american specialists had a strong feeling that the soviet union was victorious, that the soviet union was gaining strength, that the balance of power is changing in favor of the soviet union. his feelings are also that, of course, it is not eternal that there would be too many too old people in the authorities. in general, there was a feeling that the system is very stable. and i don't know a single american specialist who would suggest that the soviet union would collapse by itself, what happened? what happened to the soviet elite? what happened to the party with the ideology, how was this possible without real strong resistance? well, first of all, age. the soviet elite no longer seems to stand out against the backdrop of the

american table. yes so, especially, but i will tell you so. here's what i think. i, like vitaly comrade, of course, am a soviet person. i love the soviet union and remain its admirer. although, i'm not nostalgic for the soviet union for the reason that i'm generally, as it were, maybe i'm wrong, but i don't relate to history in any way to the chain of chance. and as some kind of natural necessity, which we sometimes cannot explain, but it is such. if something happened, in history, this is an objective fact, and with this already, uh, it's pointless, but there are no fatalists. i am not a fatalist. i am a marxist. here, i would say so. that's what i'm talking about, first, first. well, in my opinion. the soviet union cannot. to isolate from russian history in general is a continuous part of our history, and it was natural, necessary and logical. in my opinion, the second point. in

my opinion, this is the pinnacle of today. i hope that we will still have the opportunity to overcome it, but for today. in my opinion, this is the pinnacle of russian civilization . i will explain why i think so, because in ultimately, civilization is determined by the level of technology. here the soviet union reached the only one. here is russia during the soviet period. the only one of the sudden civilizations in the last 600 years has not only reached the level of western civilizations in technology of western civilization. well, it has surpassed it in many areas, probably, here they talked about this in this cosmos, and, so to speak, and many other things there in the energy sector. she's kind of a soviet one with the first one launched. aircraft civilian, by the way, we are such and weapons, of course, which, unfortunately, is also, to unfortunately, well, such is life. eh, a symptom

of technology in general. this is what no one did, not a single western civilization, then i did the soviet union did it in this sense, the russian empire also did not achieve this advantage over the west. she had many of her priorities, but such an advantage over the west. russia did not reach the second point, returning to your question. you know i relate to this. maybe as an artist? i believe that the soviet union, as a person, you know, he did everything he had to to do, and he left precisely because he did everything that the soviet union had to do, all the tasks that were set before them. here, in this model, he modernized the country very quickly, he won the war with a terrible rival, which, in general, was practically the collective west, he restored the country and he gave the country the technologies that, as they say, were necessary in the future in this economic and cruel tough model.

he couldn't. it could not exist already, therefore, strictly speaking, it seems to me, from here. well, people, we analyze this after many years. we, however, when we are participants in the event, we do not feel it. we kind of feel something is going on, but we really can't tell. what is their true meaning, it becomes clear later, therefore in the ninety-first year, this is the feeling, it seems to me that this was the reason that, as it were, the people agreed that they should go under because. he needs a new economic model, he needs a new economic reality and the second point. i think it's very important which somehow we have so many different national issues now. but in general, let's take a closer look, who was the initiator, as they say transformation, i would call the soviet union into the russian federation, by the way, the people who

are, as it were, a metropolis, that is, the main people, in general, the russian people were the russian politicians who initiated. these were not national movements. national liberation movement. actually. these were not national outskirts. it was who who was yeltsin russian politician group, which is also a russian politician. i well remember the speeches of the remarkable russian writer and great russian patriot. valentina rasputin at the second congress. e, at the second congress of the famous. e of the supreme council, where he directly said, and then it sounded that in general we need to think about why we need all these republics at all. it was not by chance it was also not by chance, and not to mention that the main point was still not a referendum in ukraine is not a referendum. the baltics not a referendum in armenia or somewhere else, but the main thing was the decision of the supreme council of the

russian federation, which then was, well, for the audience, maybe they don’t remember already that there was the supreme soviet of the ussr, the supreme soviet of russia, which in the ninetieth year voted for the sovereignty of russia that there is and it was. and who is this? it was russian politicians russian politicians who voted. it seems today that it was some it and many. today already denies that yes. we didn't know , i think, well, it seems to me that there was some kind of its own logic. i think that was part of it. here is the historical process that was, so to speak, launched, which was subconsciously accepted by society, and so it is with work, therefore. for example, i think that it is the russian federation when today i am talking about the soviet people, but i do not think that russia should try to return. in the territory of the former ussr, it should in my opinion. these territories should be, as

they say, a zone of its interests. actually, why and what is happening today in ukraine and strictly speaking, so to speak, that is, the west does not this zone recognizes the interests of russia, this is the essence of the conflict, this conflict. as they say, inevitable, but it seems to me that these were all the reasons. eh, that is, as a result, they led to what you are talking about, which in general, no matter how, no matter how no one reacted, this is true. so it really didn't react exactly because it's a system that's this great man did his job. and he had to leave, and it would not be an inner feeling. it seems to me that the people 's inner feeling of them, many today will say no. we didn't think so, i'll tell you guys. if you didn’t think so, why didn’t you do anything, because it was your inner at that moment, unconscious, as

they say, understanding of the historical process georgievich it seems to me that then , at least, the vast majority of the people did not have an understanding of the loss and the collapse of the country there was an understanding of some kind of transformation, of course it was quite rightly noted that, but there was a need to somehow modernize to modify the soviet union to do economic system more competitive and comfortable to get rid of what they began to call the scoop, but not from the country. yes and the problem is that the country was thrown out with the scoop. no, i don't agree with you. i have an opinion that the people wanted to ruin the country. that's not the point. it 's just that we felt at the time that a catastrophe was coming. well, it was. it was clear that we were all there. in the ninety-first year, we were idiots in the country. no, we saw what was happening and, of course, we understood, so to

speak, that the cis does not replace in the ussr, we all understood this, but it was as if everyone were in a kind of stupor, which i now internally evaluate as the fact that it was some kind of historical necessity in this. well the problem is that as we have already discussed. uh, in the previous blocks of our today's program - it released such g of such genies from the bottle. this has created such controversy. that's who we really are. now we are still disentangled by the lives of our own citizens in large numbers viktor borisovich but today many, and on this program they accused weakness of power. uh, as one of the reasons uh, the collapse of the soviet union well, everything in particular, of course, the role of mikhail sergeevich gorbachev e, in history you were close to mikhail gorbachev. in your opinion, was it powerful to preserve the union. could it have been

modified? that's it, get rid of the scoop but keep the soviet union as a single geopolitical and political space, and the space or its collapse, in your opinion , was inevitable, huh? dmitry, i will answer your questions and then i would like to comment on a very interesting, in my opinion, to contain the discussions that we have here is, of course, the first thing. i don't think it was inevitable. i think that it was possible and necessary to keep something else. it seems to me that he could not remain absolutely in the car. what it was like in the soviet union were elements that were popular for the soviet system. is it the baltics or now? the three sides of the baltic, this is the western part of ukraine, this is, perhaps, some part of the enclave elements in the western part, there

are some areas in belarus, and this is in transcaucasus. i think that these, so to speak, were elements of other systems of other civilizations of other values, and i believe that this was a big mistake. well, and in particular the stalinist mistake, when all this was turned on, trying to restore the empire in its entirety. and although he had wiser thoughtful steps in this sense. here, on the reflection of the same finland, after the war we could make the corresponding republic there, but we didn’t do it, it was absolutely correct. here, and now about the general question. it seems to me that when we talk about the soviet phenomenon, there are two absolutely necessary coordinate systems. the first is the soviet union must be put in the context of russian history,

how it relates to the previous tsarist empire and how it relates to post-soviet post-soviet russia, the second, no less. perhaps even more important, of course, the soviet union must be seen in the context of the twentieth century. and here you said a lot and fair, that it certainly should be recorded in the asset of the soviet union, because it was not just a country. it was the country of the idea, and it was the country of the project, and it was created. it was not created as a new russia, it was created as a platform for the world revolution, which then it had to take a more modest place. there were very few such countries in the history of the 20th century, enough fingers. and the price is appropriate

, and this price was just paid by the soviet people, and paid in full. he paid for it both with his lack of freedom and with the fact that it is enough to degenerate the soviet system into a bureaucracy regime, moreover, the bureaucracy is not under control and, not so to speak, not responsible. beyond the concentration of soviet power power fluctuated between the two poles of absolute power. do what you want and no lives, they are here for you or super oligarchs it's even that few members. he

paid for it. naturally, their standard of living. here, uh, dmitry mentioned, i don’t know, maybe he doesn’t remember, i still remember, so to speak, our gatherings somewhere in the sheremetyevo area where his family rented a dacha, we didn’t have, as far as i understand with him, how many significant differences he has, but indeed at some point the paths diverged. i think it even explain it was difficult to make an internal decision, the same idea of ​​the country, the same understanding is enough, and some left, others remained. this means that some believed that in this regard they could hardly do anything, others had some kind of hope, so to speak, so for their role the russian people paid russia for all numerous nationalities very much the soviet union is fair, everyone says that his, so to speak, the

highest historical achievement. it has entered the world piggy bank. but even so, we know the price of the official price of 27 million, but for all other achievements. russia, we won the most difficult war of the century, but again i wanted to emphasize the west was absolutely not . the americans played a huge role in that war , the english played a very important role. there were other powers as well. let's say the powerful partisan movement of yugoslavia yes, even in italy it was serious. here, ah, but we seem to me, like russia in the form of a fee. we have lost the 20th century. you compare russia by territory at the beginning of the century and at the end, if you take a short century, that is, 1914 1991. compare by population. compare everything

our people have paid, and i think it 's such an interesting idea. well, as always, of course. i don’t think that people moved away, but i think that perhaps the people at some point overstrained themselves, there were people who really called the nausea of ​​the then leadership of the ussr who simply for whom personal, so to speak, personal benefit outweighed any state considerations. but if he had to take people on him in the 20th century, he really did a lot too much its role. he paid in full, and it seems to me that in this sense, for the time being, the history of the soviet union remains largely unlearned for us. we still have to draw our own conclusions here. thank you all. the united states of great britain were certainly allies of the soviet union in world

war ii, but their contribution to the overall victory of nazism. it is simply impossible to compare with each other and russia certainly. the soviet union certainly fought against a united europe and in uh a united continental europe uh, in that war i absolutely agree viktor borisovich with the fact that the soviet union was a policy of an ideological project, and today the united states remains an ideological project of politics. these are viktor in what you said, from my point of view, a lot of truth and i absolutely agree that the soviet union the soviet people paid a very, very high price . but uh, i have a little bit of a hard time. e sensations when you said what you said, and we stop there. this is not a criticism, because we had little time and

no one asked you to give a big lecture. well here, for me personally, when i think about the history of the soviet union, i look at the amount of this history in a global context. i see what is the most democratic and transmitting. uh, europe gave, uh, the hitler regime and managed to unite the hitler regime, germany, in general, the majority of europe against germany's neighbors first and then against, of course, the soviet union and when i look at the role of the soviet union in that great war. for me, this role is not only, as dmitry would say, but fundamental, but for me it is the role is absolutely unambiguously positive, one can argue from my point of view what happened after the second world war in europe a and how

was the markel plan carried out? the truman doctrine is what stalin did in eastern europe to the fact that this one i am not afraid to use big words the feat of the soviet people during the great patriotic war, what is this for me, what is it about? i think, first of all, when i think about the soviet union, and secondly, about what? i think it is, of course, that there were a lot of crimes in the soviet union. i choose my words carefully, but there were, as our colleagues just said, very real achievements. this was said by karen uh, when it comes, of course, about soviet science about soviet technology and i absolutely do not approve, and attacks on e, liberal cultural figures, means to call a spade a spade the soviet union became a country great culture great

culture, in my opinion, it cannot be denied. well, and finally, my last question, and the generals of the burinsky sergey witt. one of the e, the most prominent, and figures of the tsarist regime, wrote wrote his memoirs several times. that after all, with all the achievements of the russian empire, and absolutely brilliant of russian culture, and in general, russian science was, to put it mildly, not so weak, but still he wrote, and that the world bowed in the first place? before the strength of russia, this is the forwarding of the russian army, and when he wrote about the time after the japanese war, the impression was that russia was not so powerful and not so decisive. and as it seemed, uh, as long as said enemies were inspired. and

the indifferent simply stopped to russia take it seriously and now, when i look at what is happening in ukraine around ukraine now, i certainly think a lot about the role of the russian army, which, in general, bears a huge project on its shoulders and faces a huge challenge to your prediction. next year, what will the russian army be able to do in this historic clash, not even for ukraine about measuring order in the fight against the collective. you know, dmitry, all the stories of e russia, starting i will not take deep antiquity, but there from the nineteenth century to this day. this is history. of course, fight. russia

has always fought and always russia uh, the russian army. the beginning was not very shaky, it was defeated, it receded, but in the end it always won, but with the exception of the russian flat war. and uh, russia needs to gain momentum. and now, e russia is gaining momentum, the russian military-industrial complex is gaining momentum, which has already switched to three- shift work, sometimes, in some enterprises, four-shift work. russia successfully refutes these e all kinds of insinuations, that you will soon run out of missiles, you will run out of microchips, everything will run out right, said the ministry of defense, or there, in my opinion, veteran anatolyevich medvedev said that we all have enough calibers and , uh, there is a consolidation of society, which has always happened and the great patriotic war the war saw the consolidation of society and now

there is a consolidation of society and dispersal is gaining momentum, so i am optimistic about the next year. i'm sure that, uh, in the end , victory will be ours, despite uh, the west maybe, of course, but for this he needs to restart his vk, he can restart the americans, and europe will be able to, but you can fill up, uh, ukraine, weapons, but in addition to weapons, you need people. with those losses that ukraine suffers, despite the fact that, despite all the incantations of the western media, that russia is about to lose. and now just a little more and, uh, the russian army will run. it won't happen, so i'm sure we'll win. i do not undertake to predict in the spring it will be in the summer or autumn. but the fact that russia is now a russian military flywheel is gaining momentum - it is certain. that's just about how we win, at least and first of all

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there is a big game on the air and we continue to sum up the results of the outgoing year in the context tomorrow's anniversary of the creation of the soviet union is 100 years old. well, now we will not only sum up, but also make a certain analysis and forecast for the future. the soviet union collapsed and, of course, it cannot be returned and, probably, it should not be returned in the form in which it was. as said. vladimir putin, who does not regret the collapse of the soviet union has no heart, but who dreams of reviving it in the form in which it existed has no brains, the collapse of the soviet union allowed the west and nationalist forces within the new states to pull apart the former common space for almost 300 years on different sides to aggravate the

contradictions that already existed at the time of the collapse of the union and introduce enmity in relations between fraternal peoples , a period of geopolitical pluralism began, as the goal of the united states policy in this region was formulated from bigni to georgian. in addition, the collapse of the soviet union deprived the world of balance, deprived the international system of what kept the united states from global arbitrariness, a moment of unipolarity began, bright, the components of which were the three-month bombing of yugoslavia and tearing it to pieces, the invasion of the united states and great britain into iraq on a deliberately false pretext, the destruction of libya as an integral state. and in general, as a state, the expansion of nato and attempts to draw ukraine and georgia into its orbit, and so on, but this moment of unipolarity ended, it lasted no more than 20 years and the main reason that it ended was russia the revival of russia as a great power russia 1 abandoned

verbally challenging american global dictatorship back in munich in 2007, in february, vladimir putin’s speech but in 2014, crimea and donbass in 2015, syria , of course, in georgia, leaving in 2008, and of course, in the outgoing year in 2022, it was russia that accelerated integration in the post-soviet space . i mean the creation of the eurasian and economic union. and as the embodiment of the union state of russia and belarus, it was russia that took the russian population of ukraine under the protection and began the denasification of all ukraine and doing everything. it was russia that gave a powerful impetus to the liberation the rest of the world from the western hegemony of neo-colonialism an impulse to the formation of a multipolis world majority, dmitry and now the united states must, probably,

for the first time in their history, get used to being one of, and not a global hegem, or isolated from the world order. elements, well, you know dmitry the united states, in general, really entered the european arena only at the beginning of the 20th century in the 19th century, the united states was a regional power. uh, it just so happens that i now live 100 km away this washington in the territory which this place is called patria. it's uh, i don't know what to call it. i don’t know if the territory will be just, but it was acquired and developed by president monroe and president monroe, of course, he threw the slogan america for americans, i mean central latin america but he was sharply away from the

united states getting into european conflicts. the first president of the united states was categorically against this. against this was the president of equincia. adams and v. in general, in the 20th century in america it was a trend that some call isolationism. and i call healthy restraint, and this trend exists and today in the united states it is represented by such a sharp and combative person, when he is trump, who is ready to work with his elbows to defend american interests. but, and further. in general, say, everyone else lives. they want as long as they don't interfere with america much. and if you accept this definition of american interests. in general, i don’t see a fundamental conflict between russia, but

there are fundamental conflicts about russia, and current american globalist. and this is really a conflict, as it seems to me, for the american globalist elite, this is not what russia is doing. and how russia lives, how russia sees itself, how russia refuses to follow someone's instructions and especially follow someone's models. i wanted to ask you, karin georgievich in this context, of course, russia. now there is a lot of talk about the anglo-saxons. and what did they do, almost starting, as it were, with the history of mankind. well, in general, it's a little more complicated. yes, what do you think? is it possible to return? get out of the current conflict. and gradually restore at least

normal relations with the collective west, or in general, some kind of feature has been transferred and we must understand that for a long time there will be some fundamental other world order. and maybe even russia will have to formulate its identity in some other way, but you know, i already said in that part that, in my opinion, the departure of the soviet union was objectified and inevitable. uh, and i agree with dmitri on that. i also said that i i think that it is possible to restore the soviet union in the form in which it was. well, the idea of ​​the soviet union just did not die. so, as is typical of the great, as they say to civilizations, how ancient rome left the idea until now, in general, the whole west is saturated

with ideas, including the united states. rome is the same soviet it seems to me that this is, as it were, actually. she she works. she works in china, she works in vietnam, she worked. she worked hard. and it seems to me that she is starting to work with us and she the very nature of the conflict will certainly return. she is not random. you correctly said that for the american elite, life itself is the very view of russia, well, well, in essence, this is the soviet view, because before this conflict we adhered to their views, and we had no conflict. and when we say so, here we are, this is the essence of the conflict, as for e, no, i don’t think there will be a soviet idea. to continue this one from this one to a certain extent will be, the return, as always happens after a rollback, will be return to the soviet idea in many, uh, aspects, but as for, uh,

a break with the west, so to speak. no, i think it's painful. this will probably be long enough. although it may be, although it may not. but in general, if you look at history, we have known more serious gaps and more, as they say, terrifying, as it were, conflicts that seemed to be absolutely impossible to try on, but the point is that both russia and the west they are inevitable. they have been and will be their constant conflicts, and, so to speak, a certain rapprochement, as it seems to me that there is also a certain regularity in this, so it seems to me that this is how it will be, but on the current one this can continue for quite a long time. although predict in this situation. nobody can do anything. this is such a situation in general, which, uh, how, in which the outcome does not know,

even not a single leader who participates in this in this confrontation. i completely agree with the knee, geochem about the continuity of ideas, but because one of the main roles that the soviet union played in the world in the xx century. this is the release of a deviational dependency. look at africa look at asia, the soviet union did a great job and now russia is also again raising the flag of anti-colonialism of the fight against western imperialism, and exploitation by an unjust world economic order and what russia is doing, including on the fronts of a special operation, leads to liberation, accelerates the process of liberation . note, forgive me with the children, that the allies looming are the same that were in the soviet world majority, yes, and russia is now in the vanguard of this world majority, which

liberates mankind, if you like, from the remnants of the western yoke over the normalization of russian western relations. we don't know what norms are. but i have a question for andronikum vsevych, is it possible to normalize the west itself, because the problem is that the west can not, by its ideological nature, the united states. they can't be one of they can't be, uh, and never know what it is? here are the participants in the multipolar world, then they were, as if james monroe and georgie washington isolated yes and then tried to form their own system their own american world order. here it is possible for them, finding some kind of middle ground is an excellent question, but as margaret thatcher said, but i will answer first something else, and then i will definitely answer something else, i will answer your question. firstly, i would like to say, i heard that

this beautiful image of yours is rooted there in the hall. the image is beautiful, but i strongly disagree with it. and why because it's just not here there will be no impossibility time for me to argue why? i do not agree, because this is a beautiful image of the state, as a young man, then he gets older. he decides. well, he got married and had a baby. a tree built a child there, and so on and so on, and then vasily leontsev, however, leaves. he said that each state and this is definitely a cycle, and in general, many states live for 1,200 thousand years, and then it is not clear what is happening, apparently, taking vision. well, the first one will be split up, then already the second time is the first, the second. i have to say that

there is a qualitative difference between the soviet union and the soviet western conflict and the russian western conflict. the soviet union as a way of life for the west and therefore they wanted to destroy us, because we simply offered an alternative to the rest of the world. now, after the collapse of the soviet union, it turned out that they can not stand the elements for anyone. the soviet union, and not just can not stand any country that does not agree with them, that is already a problem with sovereignty and subjectivity. they are they are trying to deprive russia of subjectivity and dmitry is the answer to your question. so, you know that i am here all the participants in these tragic

dramatic events of the collapse of the union perestroika there and so on and so forth. i have never experienced so acutely what is happening and i have never been so anxious as i am now. and why because now it is worth once again already here. will we, as a state, preserve our subjectivity? can we prove that we were and will be and i have an answer to this and this answer will be in this and your question. we must win this fight. really. many people say, we are with well,

some in the west laugh that uh. well, the russians say that they are at war with the west. they are howling usa this is not a war with ukraine in fact , we all understand perfectly well here that this is indeed a war with the collective west. we lost one war. she was another war. we were ruined, laid out through oil. through the fall of the goal through the stupidity of our leaders for various reasons, and so on and so forth. but then, by the ninth year, it was no coincidence that i had a whole strip question mark and, of course, by this time we no longer had

institutions. we didn't have an ideology, and we didn't have any strong-willed leaders who were ready to stand up and defend this state. today, i think that the americans and the west have very seriously missed the mark. here they are dragging us into another war, where we have every chance to win dmitry and answer your question. as soon as we win this war. there will be a new paradigm in international relations victor i want to ask you a question that has relation to history and the present. when the soviet union was going through its last years, it seems to me, one of the problems. one of the

problems was the human qualities of mikhail sergeyevich gorbachev, and i mean this, in this case, not to attack him, but to say that for him, apparently, the spilling of blood was unacceptable, especially the shedding of the blood of his compatriots was unacceptable. reply. if you do not agree with this, and in general there were things that, probably, with those radical changes that gorbachev began, there were things that could only be controlled by military force. you know that in the united states, when there was a civil war, it means that in some ways there was a situation similar to the soviet union, the american constitution gave the theoretical right to leave the federation

, but there were no damn clearly defined circumstances under which they have this right. as you know it was the bloodiest war in american history 600,000 americans were killed. and you probably also know that basic, if possible. so to put it, a crime against humanity was committed by the northerners, who deliberately used artillery. to strike at southern cities, in particular atlantia , in order to demoralize the enemy, and this is how this war ended with the victory of the north and then there was a great reconciliation, and in general they entered the south quite humanely and southern

politicians could often return to the american congress . do you agree that, but one lesson from the end of the gorbachev period? what about strength? what is the willful maintenance of order? and is sometimes absolutely necessary. here but the first how much do you know very well the constitution of the united states, two lisks, so, frankly speaking, i don’t remember the clause there that would give the right to withdraw. it seems to me that lincoln was right in his position, but i would like to draw attention to this issue, american historians argue. yes, but i would like to pay attention. on i would like to draw attention to something else linka is not over the war yet when he enters the second presidential term, the link speaks of

reconciliation that it is necessary to unite again country after victory. the north, even before the victory of the north, turned to the victory of the north, but he did not mean reconciliation, as a compromise, he meant the complete victory of the north, reconciliation with the loser. yes exactly. thank you, now about, it means objective. i think soviet history. and i certainly consider mikhail sergeevich to be the best birth in

soviet history. yes, you are absolutely right, it was practically impossible for him to cross the barrier of human life. so to speak, these are not our other rulers who could and they put a million fellow citizens under the knife and at the same time did not think about the price, but simply said one person when a tragedy dies. a million is a statistic. yes, mikhail sergeevich is absolutely unacceptable second . he is a product of his country and his territory. he's from the north caucasus how do you know in the civil war? the north caucasus split and split the cossacks and there were white blacks and he knows perfectly well. what what is it. what is a civil war? and for him there was a plus, of course, he is a product

of his country. here, i talked about it. at we have a very difficult and very bloody history in the 20th century. the 20th century, generally considered very bloodthirsty, historians have almost 200 million from the top. yes, in the history of the country there are, so to speak, these, yes, that's all. plus one more thing. i consider it very important for mikhail sergeevich to never do what he could do. here he believed people, he believed the best person, let's say, and that's it. i think his great strength in this at some moments of crisis became a weakness. so to speak, as it became, weakness, as a bomber, i through which he could not pass. yes, probably in the history of the country there are such, so to speak, such a situation when the processes that should have stopped have stopped. here is another thing

that is very easy here. i will also mention to everyone, yes, and to the caucasus. but the truth is, he said that there are some white blacks,

actually white and red. yes, the reds, yes, yes, but you excused yourself here, as if in such a strange way, so why are the bolsheviks their difficulty in the peasant question of the attitude of the peasantry, in particular, that they considered the christian class petty. and potentially even anti-revolutionary, here mikhal sergeevich is the rural petty bourgeoisie, he behaved like that . he is very reminiscent of zelensky not in outward habits. he was afraid, he didn’t want blood, he didn’t want to like it, so that the western image would be enchanted. well, you say, well, by god, he led the camp, but into disintegration into such a catastrophe. ah, that is, even now here for 3 hours in a row they talk only about this. you see, he is their politician, who is not ready to use force , performs his political function, especially since this is not official politics. it's either

rag, or even the second i do not want to pronounce. and the collapse of the soviet union is so soon, and i will give a forecast, because they asked me to be very specific and brief. and here is the case when the fans also disagree, spectacularly about the collapse. further, it is essential, firstly, you and many of you, how would the soviet union and the soviet system or the communist or what was called real socialism use russia all night? this is how the political construction of the soviet union has largely exhausted itself. although i'm not sure that fatal that i said that it could have been preserved even in this design, which means that until now, but uh, viktor balish, when he talked about his vision of the causes of the

lord of the soviet union, i carefully listened to him in the old way. just removed all the blame from the top leadership. that is. here mikhal sergeevich is understandable and from the party elite the people there were something then a victim of repression, they could not. and that is to blame. by the way, it just sounded to make us tired of it, which means that now i said so. well, quoting elements. you said it was inevitable. i said that you are a fatalist, you say, yes, he ’s still here, if something happened, i already said that so here the soviet union the soviet union and the cpsu were weak gorbachev today, well, in short, they didn’t want this unified power, then , which gorbachev did not say today, they tried to do everything. everything is gone. still tried to do it. naturally,

they wanted to change the stronger yeltsin and their national leaders. that's what i said, but that 's not the point now. eh, what are you disappointed in ? why are you fascinated by the soviet people, he became disillusioned with the ruling class in ideologies that the ruling class could not renew. here are two uh, an employee and momo right, i understand right. yes, why did the imo staff you said that you saw the crisis, then yes. all uh, why do imo employees from other similar organizations exist or go abroad on a business trip, and what did they bring from there without fail, in addition to articles of smart thoughts, recordings of conversations. e with interlocutors, what did they bring from there? here you are, my world economics of international relations, it was stated that socialism is an advanced system, that the cpsu leads us to leadership in the whole world, which

was or seemed to be a long time in fact, the twentieth thirties, victory in the fiftieth sixties seventies to half, and then the minister’s contacts expanded, the union, came abroad, found out how much his interlocutor helped there like the french, say a similar minister. how much does he get what suits they wear in what car , uh, which house has it? which villa? uh, he lives, he didn’t understand with us all the riches of the world, we are superpowers and with advanced dialogues. and those live better french italian films were shown to us endlessly in the 60s and seventies, the eighties we saw it all. everything was better there, and the imo employees brought you back and did not answer that you brought them abroad. vitaliy should tear you off. yes, i brought her

nothing. i was not leaving. i'm nowhere at all. apparently, i didn’t go either, we don’t, yes, well, i’m not an exit one, but a door, but they bought from these same ones. well, to show the trimmers in the museum, wait, i'm finishing another vitalyevich's forecast, we will have a short one. no just this uh i understand today. why then you understand why it collapsed, the ideology was not updated, there was all dogmatics. the same one was more and more at odds with real life, you were sitting in mmos in other better offices, people who had to explain to others to write that everything is fine and only as an individual entrepreneur with such certificates, well, with some kind of criticism , send a, referring to experience. the west most

often, as it were, needs to be corrected, as in lecturing one's oral on the line, that of the knowledge of others. so they said that everything is fine, but these jeans most must have been from a business trip hanging and this is repeatedly written. here people did not understand that everything was happening in front of you. textbook, but everything turns out in life, which is worse than an ideology that is at odds with life. everything, this is the collapse of any system. yes, with a weak-willed leadership, therefore, well, now we have a strong-willed leadership, but there is still no proper ideology. what the forecast says a lot about is obvious, and we win, because if we don’t win, russia disappears, and god, uh, not uh, god, hasn’t decided so yet. this is the first. uh, in the ukraine we must reach kiev, stand on the left bank of this dnieper and take the whole south. the black sea is clear. it should be ours, so it

should be. e. well, of course, not only four areas, but something more. the optimum will not be the european union, i wrote for a long time, finally, by the twenty-fifth year, then for the same reasons that from the soviet union when viktor speaks, described and how georgievich what was the clip in the soviet union they talked about today's european union usa i know much less, therefore i can’t give a forecast there, but the fact that the united states, of course, is not will dominate. this is obvious because the lord is in the world. maybe only the lord god, if he is one master can not be, that's all. everything, just listen to this litovich. well, in my opinion. all this is very simple, but it makes no sense for gorbachev to order that he did not use force. you just said yourself there was a crisis of ideology. well, such people have already come, the system reproduced such people, but it could not reproduce neither derzhinsky nor stalin. they simply would not

have come in this system. wait, be quiet. what this is what i said in another, it is you who are talking about this. you are talking about how, here gorbachev, he did not use force, it was necessary to use force in this and there was a crisis in this system. why did such people come? i saw them, you say, and imo well, how did the employees of the imo or wherever it is or even mosfilms could use force. this is a completely different category. you always compare them with the hero and the civil war, who went through the felling, which saw blood. and this stalin went through the war, he saw the war as a terrible one from an unknown history, when he budyonny said, after cutting says. well, you can’t speak in any way in humanity, once he brought him to the field where they were hacking, then he says, no, you can’t. well, this, damn it, the iron people were precisely in this and there was a crisis in the soviet union that she already brought people like mikhal sergeevich with all due respect to him , just like yeltsin was weak. it was the people

who saw strength in him, but it turned out. well, yes, i’ll give you money for a second dmitry but this heated discussion, in fact, suggests that, of course, ideology is needed. it is necessary, but uh in no case should you roll into dogma. yes, you can't repeat the mistakes in this case of the soviet union viktor borisovich minute. thank you. well, i just want to protect my institute mmo mmo was in the conditions of not a free system an island of freedom and even free thinking, and there many people saw what was happening, wrote about it, tried to take risks. and to think that people go only for jeans. well, i'm sorry, it characterizes you more than people who what , but why? well, why would you say that?

words, unfortunately, i can not answer you. what i did not say, firstly, i want to protect the imam. i went there in 1985, but in 1987 my article was already published in questions of philosophy about civil society in the soviet union when it was forbidden. and by the way, at the institute - it was encouraged and supported. this is vrv. i'm not saying that then there are already a million of the same things that i had not worked before. so the second time i uh, the second time hmm i have to disagree with you. i'm very sorry, but he also says that they brought you a hunchback. already, who destroyed the ideology of gorbachev yakovlev

destroyed the ideology. here are the ideologies. nobody believes this. i am one of those who wrote one of all. this from the eighty-fifth to the year 88 was destroyed and discredited dialogues, but if sasha tenaciously, with the permission of yakovlev and gorbachev, prints the ideology to destroy khrushchev, the khrushchevites . so the congress destroyed the dialogue, writes that marzism is a person and hateful is a criminal ideology and so on. how how can you be the general secretary and of course use this ideology if you you destroy it yourself, no granite, no second. you are the author of an article called need an iron hand. now i have to hear that this is important. i say why do

n’t you use force when the law is on your side, he says for him there was a choice in his head and then how am i different from stalin, i thought, my god, but you need a ballet school to go to work or study, not the country to lead and most recently in malta in malta gorbachev tells the elder bush you will be older, he says, promise that you will not use force against the balts and gorbachev - it's michael cheap from the sling. telbat is resting level. this is scary, and i told him mikhail sergeevich who gave you the right to give the soul to the elder a promise that you would not use force, and therefore, when in lithuania, in latvia, in estonia, all these things went and tried to use force. they say that he has disappeared, as if he is not there, in general, he has

nothing to do with this. but because he gave the word it is written. how did he know what was hung up and such love came to the word of american imperialism, firstly. a word that should not have been given to them absolutely. secondly, should not have inhaled dmitry here ah when at the beginning of the program. i told you we had a special edition of the big game today. i could not even imagine how special this release would be. but while we discussed extremely important topical and as we see topical issues, but i would like to finish with some forecasts, and russia and the role of russia in world affairs. russia has been at the forefront of world historical processes more than once in its history. so it was in fact when the soviet union was created, the creation of the ussr, as we already today they said in many respects predetermined the whole appearance of the 20th century, both in the geopolitical and in the

ideal and in the economic sense. many non-western countries to sovereignty and self-reliance. a world majority has taken shape, as those countries of the east and south that do not accept the hegemony of the united states are in favor of forming more fair. about the geopolitical and economic world order, a new stage of the liberation of mankind has begun and the formation of a multipolar world can no longer be reversed. russia also put a barrier to the american policy of forming anti-russia from the fraternal people of ukraine, and even more so the forcible nosification of the russian people, and which now lives on the former territory of ukraine this russian people returns home and new russia, devoid of those ideological shortcomings that accompanied the creation of the soviet union. it seems to me that there will be more

a stable stronghold of the russian world and a more stable pole of power. dimitri is very well said. uh, i u mentioned in the answer, who, as you know, wrote an article, and at the beginning after the soviet period, that the story ended. u that there will be a new kingdom of god , uh, god in quotation marks, but democracy of the western type, and that this is a new chapter in the history of mankind, firstly, this chapter will continue indefinitely, and secondly, this chapter will be written in the united states their allies help roller. this is what russia has now managed to prove that history is not it just didn’t end, but that it’s not alone, the power

itself will not be able to write this history. and that such a country as great russia will be a smaller, very active participant in this historical process and in determining what the world will be like and will ensure in the process that the world is such that the national interests of russia do not suffer and goodbye. and happy new year to all thank you very much, happy new year.

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eduard arsenyev was born on november 30, 1937 in novosibirsk until the age of 8 he lived with his parents in different cities of russia where they were sent to work for his father, chemical technologist nikolai vasilyevich artemyev, everything was turned on for someone . the fifty-third moved to moscow under the auspices of his uncle nikolai ivanovich demyanov, a professor at the conservatory, after graduating from the choral school, he entered the composition department of the moscow conservatory. mid-sixties , the appearance of the synthesizer makes a splash in in the music world opens the era of electronic

music, it is impossible to imagine andrei tarkovsky's masterpiece samsonov with the highest awards of the russian film academy. however, the composer considers the opera crime and punishment to be his main work. and this is very pleasant rodion romanovich raskolnikov feeling

myself, i was two months old. yes, it’s easier for me to get very sick at the border, the morons said everything else so much that i really didn’t get married, and then father said i was going to moscow and there was a crisis on the train. apparently i remember this moment, i understand when i tell everything, this that, that said, someone out there someone fell from the top half an hour underground. i bomb everything. absolutely yes, this is incredible. i remember on my hands, but i understand everything. everything, it was like that for me. i was an adult. to compose somewhere around three years old, probably something at 4:00 well

, i didn’t know how to write, but i managed to sleep there, i remember, we already had a phone, it was also the biggest stage. in this case, i slept with this clockwork handle. in general, i was just such a lonely child and, therefore, did not worry at all. one lived in his fantastic the world. we lived in ryazan for 7 years, that's just from 7:00 to 14 years old. we lived on the closure of the territory. uh, so i didn't have any friends there, alone. did she raise her very well? because i was walking alone, there were no friends there and there was no one

to play with, i thought so with something childish, but remember, always always alone and i was interested, i did not get bored. fields flooded meadows gypsy tents, where gypsies every spring came on horseback in these different multi-colored e, clothes in it all scared that you didn’t go out and started stealing uniforms, that means, but also from my mother let me go. horse stars gleaming about the fire potatoes in the fire

i ask the lord to the table. when i was 12, i heard scriabin for the first time. my uncle took it, and he played immediately 72 issues for the very last one, he was standing outside the door, he was completely afraid, he gave an impulse to start composing music, the first such a serious shock.

i know what i want to do, i always listen, the director will not go. yes , magnets are easy to understand. incidentally, mikhalkov gave me a gift. wonderful. yes, please

. we met with mikhalkov. he pumped up today some topic is needed there showed music in various american ones, especially mikhalkov would show it, yes, we take everything. well, it's rare , i usually don't trust myself like that because i have to. it seems to me that i must definitely overcome something. domestic directors

let's shoot everyone happy. let's shoot ready to motor artemiev, he is like a part of my life. i have never worked with another composer, except for one film, when they didn't give me brine shrimp. it was also not a weak composer. francis ley. it's in the picture is very black all my other films. they are directly linked like this with the name, with the personality and with the music lying down, because for him music is not just notes for him musical music everything that is heard

at all. it can be the sound of clapping, my lids on the pan or the script of the gate or the singing of a bird or steps or the wind, and so on, it is universal in terms of, so to speak , what is heard. i don’t know another so benevolent, but so not envious, so quivering, touching, sincere person, who would be a plus to that would belong to it. i have

never heard envy or evil from a terrible and dependent clan of creative workers. nothing absolutely defamatory in any way, to anyone. his whole being is generally of such an angelic weight , he flies weightlessly, and in this sense, of course, he is absolutely invulnerable, two words are ready.

filmed in 1970, a disc from the rock opera by english composer andrew lloyd weber, jesus christ superstar, appeared in moscow. i was completely taken aback. and perfectly catches the choice of rose themes universal human means, which in general is impossible to imagine, that it is possible to speak with these means about something lofty, sublime, especially religious. here he

did it. then, for a very long time, i came to my senses and radically changed my style completely, and i think that this was the most decisive threshold of my life and, as it were, did not liberate me, or what? and in general, i found something important for myself, and so about this in this direction i stayed until today to work. in the beeline application

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the second year, artemiev met andrey tarkovsky artist monsolaris andrey made a seal of a frivolous person. he fluttered so lightly. here at work , he literally said that i was interested in something there, like thinking your ear is a good composer, and i don’t need anything else. the rest should be. thanks and then i realized

that i was missing the noise structure. several wonderful things have happened to me, otherwise there is no way to explain the presence of god.

these hits and then returned to the pier in the evening leaving. this once upon a time there was an artist from armenia who came to his family so white the skid that was spit was destroyed. well , this is not the season, in general, it's scary to remember. it seemed to me some strange wind , such a wind, light and with some kind of sound. i listened so. and in general, an avalanche of such a monastic 1,000 head choir swept over me. it’s just, uh, the most incredible thing is that i didn’t hear any of these voices and i don’t hear anything like that anymore. in general , it is impossible to convey something like this, cosmic, huge, powerful and, in general, picking up.

powerful utterly i am literally this power i am came to earth, remember? i had something that pressed me so hard or that i was completely bent in this perished. well, yes, it was real. well , then i come back, then i look we don’t have it. it seemed to me that i even saw some sacred things, so at night they say no, that is, something like that was written by the artist who was sitting next to me died. i do not know there, apparently, already recognized. the lord is given to everyone all the time, not for a second. but look a little like this.

for 20 years, i fought for a very long time that they took root. and as a result, they were tiny. here are some twigs up to my waist. here is such a story. studied together. i played his composition. i was in the class, shakurina of his students. i played a record on the radio, talked, spent a lot of time, and then somehow

it all came. at first it was very difficult, yes, because i also had such speeches that i said something wrong, i didn’t act like that. i noticed something small. but then i realized that it really was all vanity. this is the main thing. the main thing is different, when you understand all this is perceived, then you see something else, the main thing, you see, firstly, they all say this, if anything, paradise on earth, which we do not see. have time in life to see this paradise on earth. here even look here at the nature. what is around us, how does it all work out? it

is simple to humanity and to remain so as to love a person to love what is being done around him, besides us and preserve. yes exposed to it like all people they escaped this. and then somehow learned to control. maybe not always, but somehow still. i understood that this was the temptation of passion. well what is here say you can't? that's all, but it's not easy to say this one thing, but it's hard to do it. but this is how you educate yourself. yes, i’m talking now, so, as if, if you don’t run into some kind, suddenly, some kind of temptation will come to me there. so i wanted

to avoid it. there is still wonderful, 10, well , everything is written. everything is said, everything is done for a person. learning to explore is the hardest thing, right?

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nerves. producer and founder of the lord i was 9 years old. he and his mother got into severe accident, eduard nikolaevich rushed between two hospitals nursed both. at night he worked on the music for rob's film about love.

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konchalovsky began on the film siberiada konchalovsky invited the duet to work on her film for one three years in europe and america in the hollywood studio. during this time, the composer wrote the music. artemiev is a brilliant melodist and a very russian person, he is absolutely disinterested, just such disinterestedness. i don't know, personally, i he is humble. a man, as dostoevsky said, humility is the most terrible force. he surprises me every time i communicate with them with humor, at

the most unexpected moment and maybe even tragic ones. absolute and serenity in the face of death these are rare qualities already, so let's not talk about it. in 1979, konchalovsky turned to artemyev with an unexpected proposal to write music for the opera crimes and punishment based on the novel by fyodor mikhailovich dostoevsky. by this time, konchalovsky had already worked with yuri ryashentsev and mark rozovsky. summer. not

knew and look. konchalovsky called me and said that they had written a script with ryashents and deliveries and would like that i would read it. and that it seems to him that i can write it. uh, that's what it's supposed to be, a rock opera. i really liked this. i was in my early 30s then. so, then they created the first version of the opera

crime and punishment, and we had to read it. it's just that the case did not come to me, he was sitting. here behind this chair here and read and suddenly some moment. i looked at him. he had so easy horizontally splashed tears from the eyes he is a wonderful listener. his friends name is lyosha you know eduard is a name that his grandmother immediately rejected when he heard said you will be alexey god's man pressure the greatest thinkers and writers mikhailovich

physically said i just can't be near him. just put your foot down, not what to compose there, and i stopped the topic, not mine is so terrible. detective terrible roman contemplative more to me meaningful things without any special passions. it did not come, but here is the deepest shock. at in general, this feeling, the killers all this is so it was not at all for me. well, that also slowed it down. sleep a piece.

androna i just wrote later. one day he called. i was 60 years old it was. 87 and suddenly he told me, you will never write all your life. and hung up. and suddenly i was understood just to a cold photo. i realized that it really is. i don't remember, i

just thought that i was going back to russia, i had to do something important, it could only be done in russia, i pushed him. he did not resist, he decided there and in general to him you need a kick in the ass so that it makes the energy of delusion important here. i thought it was very easy to put it on. just need to finish it. well, it's interesting that when i made the decision, immediately began such a tempting offer literally. here, as if tempted temptation went instantly. suddenly they called to lead from the first channel. so, producer, wait for the offer.

that's how i started to run. i’m me, otherwise i’m so stas , of course, i weakened, i think, well, i would do that and do something, yes, then he calls, then your decision. i say know, uh i'm here will work. he says no just come to us for 8 months. we need to communicate with you all the time for eight months, and i realized that i am already writing about cakes. then he said that i couldn't do it. all that. in short, he told me that consider the second time we do not invite anyone. i say, i understood everything, it was we who broke up. you supported me from the role very much about this plan. looking for 2 years i did it all, i worked there. well, until you fall. what is called 12 to 15 to 16 hours. well, i just did n't get out of the material for a second, what called bitch got involved, that i dreamed it was all mixed up and worked with things, as everything went right for me, one after the other, everything began to work out. in my opinion. we feel

incredible. sympathy, you understand that, of course, he will never be forgiven. because the sin of killing his society can, of course , forgive, but never ask himself. scared now feeling me often tried. he repented the most terrible unrepentant sin, but he repented, but i am sure that all this has always remained with him innocent. yes it is

survive. i loved people so much i dreamed, they will understand me and you make me laugh at the word strong, what a sin it is that i bring happiness to everyone.

came true started, but happiness, no. tishka's life is like a dream dark, as there was blood at the same time to save people from evil, but what is around then, but what is around then? only

one servant. this piece is correct. when you've done it all understands immediately well done. shortly after the release of the disc from the opera , several russian theaters approached artemy with a proposal to stage the opera on their stages at that time. that's better. this is not

a project there in a small theater is a big project that requires a lot of money requires a lot of spectators requires expensive tickets. this is a serious, deadly thing. thank you and sir, so that he

was not rude and not evil with me, god save you. i have been wanting to ask you for a long time. when did your word come? but you're ready, let's go, beauty, i'll give me a ride to be like an ant.

thank you. for the fact that bright clouds for the fact that the night is not so close, god thank you for you. she is still able to be herself and the gentlemen thanks for something when anyone goes forward takes any takes any. when i work.

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the sad news of the news of literally the last few hours, and the composer eduard artemyev died at the age of 85. a man who let's just say, whose creativity and life in this, the meaning of which life was permeated. well, it won't be an attraction to say most of us, because he has written music for 150 films. and this music permeates our whole life. we lived with her. sometimes even they don't know it's him. yes, and this is him. and everyone has his own melody, his own

film written by him and solaris and stalker and mirrors and burnt by the sun and the barber of siberia and many, many, many other films. in which this music sounds, without which these films would be different and would not become the same. what have become? for us for everyone, if you close your eyes now. you will understand that here is this melody. can you name dozens? dozens of events with many others and this music will remain with us. i don't know what i'll say

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sense of the word fit. well, like this. in general , traditionally predictable, but hmm, the character that ends the broadcast of the year, when they sum up the results of the outgoing year to what has been done, what has not been done, so that it is right, so that it is not quite, right. well, naturally. uh, discuss what to expect from next year why? i say this because, to the question of whether we all understand perfectly well what was the main event or main events that filled the outgoing year. and what made it so difficult so difficult so disturbing and can be picked up. dozens more epithets and definitions, what he was and and all of them will not matter with a plus or minus sign. they will be so very complex, because we have begun a very difficult work, a very complex process. well, in full the program started about which during different, themes throughout the year. we

discussed many times the doubts of people, it was worth starting , it was not worth starting, but whether we did what we started right, and whether we are going there and we will get there, or you know where i started from. eh, it was today that, in an amazing way, probably not by chance, events took place that once again , like at the end of the year, like a nail, uh, they scored for me, in any case, they scored in the understanding that a everything was done correctly and b this was impossible not to do. i'm talking about the fact that tonight the monuments to catherine and alexander suvorov were demolished in odessa, and it’s not about the monuments. the fact is that these are symbols dedicated to the people who actually made this city a city, but because count suvorov from rybnik conquered this land. in the literal sense of the word, a lesson that, if someone does not know, at that time they claimed, and not only this territory,

but on the territory there of the same volyn , for example, just like the commonwealth, and if it were not for count suvorov, the monument , to which these mankurts demolished today it is not clear what it would be with their ancestors and who they would be today and would be, and not today, so to speak , e slavs, if they were orthodox and that in general there would be catherine made this city a city. and when i wrote about this today and in my telegram channel, i did not choose words, because these are really barbarians, these are really monkeys with hammers. and who, in principle, are strangers on this earth, who do it at night and cover their faces with masks. they even covered themselves with some kind of law that was written by others, but khoklovarvory. i use this word, because in ukraine everyone

knows perfectly well the difference between a ukrainian and a ukrainian . they know them to them their president. a few years ago i explained, not being president. so these barbarians, these monkeys with hammers, demolished these monuments at night in masks, realizing that even with all the pressure that all this time was on e, odessans. and across the country on normal people living there it is. you know, yes, in a way, as strange as it sounds. this is something i honestly do not believe until the last. i think they will jump they will carry something there, as it were, but the mind, or rather the foolishness, is not enough to do it, because with this they cut it. so on what , on what, maybe they could still hold on. that is, uh, this is not even the edge. this is already over the edge, moreover, doing it at night and hiding in masks, that is, they understand how they relate to this, well, the majority of the population is normal, the majority of normal people,

who, of course, are now crushed and occupied by them. yes, yes, if you demolish, while in the city, a monument to the founder of this city, then this means this is not your city. it means you're an occupier, it means you want to erase the history of this city. and who are you, then, of course, the occupier, but more than that, they do. it was they who gave one more, in my opinion, a very bright symbol, because having demolished this monument at night, they stuck it there, as if here, respectively, a shaft with a consciousness. having set a very important symbol, just 2 days before the end of this outgoing 22 years, this symbol is very difficult. what is there where the bandera monkeys insert their flag exactly what they filled it with now. this is where culture ends. the

story ends there. that's where common sense ends. the concept of the honor of conscience ends there, about anything arises there, as if emptiness and there is nothing. and this is a very important symbol. and the fact that they nevertheless demolished these monuments under the cover of night. and the fact that this is stuck there symbolizes that it will not heal itself. it will not disappear by itself, and all those difficult operations that will have to be done in order to cut them out here will have to be done. as a matter of fact, twenty-second year and it was so difficult because we started. to do this and how often it happens, because we understand that ukraine is a part of ours in the broadest sense of the word, our own body of our own organism. if any of you have ever tried, uh, sewing something on yourself or, uh, cutting it off, it always hurts a

lot more than even on someone, so we, of course, hurt a lot more now, but nevertheless , starting . this and looking at what happened tonight in odessa, i don’t left. i didn’t have them anyway, all the more no doubts. that it is necessary to do this is another symbol of today. and, of course, it matched. i couldn't know. and these banderlogs could not know this, that today a very symbolic answer was given by us to russia, the russian federation, because today vladimir putin took part in the lifting ceremony via video mode. on the ships of the navy of the russian federation, which begin to carry out combat missions, are part of the fleet. so here one of these ships, this is the missile carrier generalissimo suvorov, as you wish, but i see in this the deepest, deepest symbolism that the monument to suvorov is being demolished there and it falls, and

instead of it, another generalissimo suvorov from the russian federation takes up combat duty, so that, as was said more february 24th. it never occurred to anyone to try us. and interfere. let's see how it was. comrade supreme commander-in-chief of the armed forces of the russian federation, the boat is ready for the first raising of the naval flag. allow the flag to raise the naval ensign on ships entering the navy allow

i looked at these footage. right now, i thought that well, this is how the circle of history turned around, that now generalissimo suvorov. among others. we will have to take part again in the struggle for these lands to become, in the truest sense of the word, russian russian again. yes, he will carry out his service at sea. but as a matter of fact, these are our two most important allies, and the armies and fleets, which we once again understood very well? ah this year, maybe in some aspects. eh, maybe they didn’t fully understand before, they understood it with all certainty. and also today, which, well, as part of our broadcast, completes this year, television for my part of the program two. unfortunately, also

very sad and also very symbolic events, when they fired again, donetsk was again fired to blame. gorlovka was shelled again, civilians died again people because they hit strictly on peaceful quarters they hit with hailstones, which are weapons of such, so to speak, not e is a weapon of selective action. and this is very symbolic for understanding character. here is the same kha banderlog state that demolished the monuments of tao where we started they are at war with people and yes, in order to stop it, in order to break it. yes, sometimes very very difficult very difficult very tough decisions are needed again today, and in response such a decision was made, because today once again a blow was struck at critical infrastructure, and today's cities in ukraine a once again

since it was inflicted by the very same missiles that we already had an odd number of times, e, ended in many. in ukrainian cities, uh, there is no light, but transport stood up, including the same lvov where at christmas everyone rode horses and illuminated cathedrals, but i said then and i will repeat it now. for all that, even ukrainian propaganda cannot accuse us of killing people, because the three civilians who died today, whose house would have been destroyed, once again, as is often the case with ukrainian air defense, they died, because fragments of a ukrainian air defense missile fell on this house today. they can not say anything about this, because in their monkey and joy they themselves filmed how they knocked her down, and she fell there. and this is another very important moment, uh, which is so symbolic for summing up the results of this year, that this kiev regime of the former ukraine

he is before our eyes during this year, but began to show his character. we have been talking about this for a long time, but now it has become clear to many. well, in general, it becomes it is dangerous for others that this, as it were, sick he needs isolation and such serious therapy, because he becomes dangerous to others. and this was first passed by the poles, where it flew in, and today the ukrainian air defense missile has already flown to belarus and i am far from thinking that it was, but a special shot, i personally am far from this thought, but is it any easier from this. it seems even more dangerous to me, because we discussed this when we said about poland that they are tightening up their ra- because total irresponsibility. that's the main thing, so to speak feature of today's kyiv regime. they clean up. e. self-destruction self-destruction self- destruction, and these same missiles, so that they

fly away. well, they are flying. then they flew to the territory of belarus and how far the behavior of this irresponsible regime can end, which further and further boasts of its own, as it were, without control, because it’s like the whole west is with them. this is a big question and, in fact, all this and there are very symbolic things for me, but in summing up, but the outgoing year of what we did, what we have done may not have had time to finish. well, in general, let's start summing up, as they say, on all fronts in all directions. getting started hmm well, for starters. to your words, i would add, firstly, eduard artenev. the kingdom of heaven was still amazing, as i was not familiar with and adored his music, not only cinema. by the way, he has a great musical heritage, and to your words about odessa, we must add to complete the image, that at night during curfew . they also unhooked a quarter in an empty

city. i mean, they are so real. definitely simply complements, as it were, an image about the outgoing year. i would like to say from two things, they are so well. not so attached to the current agenda, but it seems to me very important, but, as it were, one is about us and the second one is about us, rather negative, not in the sense of bad. and in the sense of negation, the second is positive. in terms of addition and subtraction for this year. in a strict regime, we got rid of not just momentary but centuries- old illusions, very many. we all our people have become much more mature this year fair, because getting rid of the illusion is just let's say this is not without pain, getting rid of. from these illusions, not without tears, of course, from pain with tears and with a high price and with blood. that is, well, well, as it happens. but nevertheless, this, of course, that is, on the

one hand, this is a denial, because we got rid of it, but on the other hand. this is very helpful for us. the most important of these illusions is indeed many centuries old. uh, i suspected an unexpected conclusion that there are two europes, there is a west europe, forget it for now about america, we are reasonable and, as it were, of the same root, uh, came out both culturally and in the religious sense from the same places but they have diverged over 1,000 years of official divorce and 2,000 have passed so much. starting not with peter alekseevich romanov, he is the first great, starting with his dad with alexei mikhailovich romanov, the russian elite began to instill in our people the cult

of this west . yeah, this cult has constantly dominated the development of our culture. i will not even talk about the beginning of war and peace in french. well i will say that here are our great figures of our culture. uh, the novels that fyodor mikhailovich dostoevsky wrote, lev nikolayevich, they wrote within the framework of the western european tradition of the so-called upbringing novel, that is, the kamon of this novel was taken from there. well, although in the same e demons, dostoevsky just has a lot, but he devoted something to this, as it were, an enlightened west, and we who should still can’t, so how is it it's with him that we can't say anything sensible. we are in our own language, and so on and so

forth, he wrote a lot about it there. this is where the paradox of our culture lies, that, being in their structural framework, as it were. we discuss our relationship with them within them. yes, pyotr ilyich tchaikovsky wrote russian symphonies. well, what are the melodies there, but the canon was taken from the german austrian music of the classical era. we also started to destroy them about what the west is doing with this. only now it is starting to guess, because, let's say, musical traditions. uh model first petrovich musorskie, and then rachmaninoff they are this classical. we did not fit into this and the previous concrete example, but it is very characteristic. what did they learn about, what did they recognize decades later, that one of the people who destroyed this classical german musical tradition, well, like mozart beethoven, this one was sergei rachmaninov well

, the question is, why didn’t he destroy it? this is music? it is so mathematical eight bars, ta-ta-ta, then eight bars again, well, such a grid inside, mathematical, and inside this grid tchaikovsky glinka wrote everything. and rachmaninov made it so that his melody began with the first tactic 8, it does not end with him, and he went further. russian melody did not fit in this table, so you are talking about the fact that in the twenty-second year, about the same thing happened to russian melody in such, and in political, uh, international terms. she finally, this russian melody, exceeded the eighth measure, and somehow the structure began to become and now she is looking for her own form, and everyone tells her you ceased to be music, and you began to tell her according to the rules. write music. yeah that's eight so good, and our melody doesn't fit. yes

, the rules, we sing differently and then they tell us, and then we will take away the instruments from you, because the instruments on which you write perform your e, nine or ten bar music, and not as if all of us respond. and we will sing you so ugu a cappello that you will go deaf, so along with your instruments there is a good image for each, so you say that it was one. illusion, which we began to get rid of in the sense that music can be not only eight-bar, it can be some other, maybe ours, maybe ours and we started doing it. yes, this is one illusion, and uh hmm parallel to this illusion. i now caught myself thinking. i talk about music with such confidence. in general, well, i don’t know, but you, but so, but the uh, the brighter your image, that how would i understand it, i don’t understand anything about it i tried, right? so, uh, now here i am, this is my personal point of view, my glorious

module is worth arguing historians, sociologists , political scientists, anyone, but i believe that we we are now witnessing the climax of a 100-year war. it started in 1914. e is still going on. now the apogees, and it is interesting that here is another illusion. uh, there were different companies in these wars in the first world war in the cold war and the hungarian rebellion czech, afghanistan chechnya, but constant was everywhere the same, the environment changed. russia remained, and in the end, after 100 years, we came to the conclusion that everything that used to be with us. now, after all, the illusion against us was that it was possible for a short period and their from there to get as allies and even believe that they are real military allies, as in the forty-second or socio-economic, as in the ninety-

first quite right, not suspecting that we have not yet ended the second world war. they have already developed an unthinkable plan to destroy us, and this is what churchill said that it seems that we have filled up the wrong boar completely, and now about it. finally, here we are standing alone in the field. yeah, i understand, i wonder not. these same allies, who once again us deceived in our standing. we have been reflecting on this for a whole year. well, not that we suffer, but we are so upset. why? what are we alone? where, by the way, even before the start of a special military operation. that's how long i've been on the air for 6 years, 6 1/2 has always been here. eh, i even forgot the name of these people who come here , when who are your allies, who are your allies? well, who? and that's it, that's what they are, that's what the transmission is, do you think that we now

understand this, got rid of this illusion. it makes us stronger, of course. or does it make us, as it were, sadder, no, of course, firstly, we can, finally, without relying on the empty constructions that we drove. we stand on our own. this is the most people. they are now the people who sit in front of the television. previously, many said, you say, it means that we can they say, and we still definitely can, we not only can it, but this is what our former allies and our current enemies know about. do you know what else it means that we are alone in the field a warrior against the united west over this year we have proved they do not need to explain anything to anyone else that we are really superpowers, not a single country has ever resisted alone. and if we look at the results of our year on your map. green light, we see, yes green color is visible green. the truth is

less than it was some time ago. we are not in that dynamic. let's look at that year of today's date back. here it is the physical result, understand? understood? eh, good image of you and good retrospective of this year. the only thing is, like, well, such a marginal note if you you say that we are now at the peak of the hundred years war, then it turns out that the war is not the hundred years because if the opposition fell on uh, the one hundred and eighth year, then this means that, well, as if the war is years old. uh, the war is not a hundred -year-old at least 150, but even a 200-year-old more, of course, that is, the confrontation is much longer . , we have been fighting for centuries, but the most interesting thing is yes, an excellent metaphor. so for every doo-doo there is your trombone.

europeans here, and europeans, perhaps, are even more part of europeans than they are

europeans by dramatic geographical population. yes, i think that this is an attempt to bring confusion on the european platform, which is being made permanently. just from the time that i turned out to be ivan vasilyevich the terrible, and she is associated with continental thinking and island thinking. uh-huh island thinking is the united states of great britain yes, and continental thinking is us actually france germany russia countries, uh, whose alliances france germany and russia are maniacally afraid of ours. uh, anglo-saxon comrades. that is why we fought the french in the 19th century. that is why in the 20th century. we were from germany with the germans. that's exactly why, well, finally this time this year we met with the anglo-saxons, huh? it wasn't. as a matter of fact, yes, yes, yes, and, by the way, by the way, it is very interesting that this year

we are really with them almost forehead. and this is, uh, what alexander said, roughly speaking exactly, that's why we began to stand already. finally, there are only warriors in the field, because they always seemed to be, as if allies, while it is interesting, yes, in fact, i am not like that in every way, substituting us. they have now tried to play this game, they framed ukraine and europe, they framed europe because europe is collapsing in the economic sense ukraine is collapsing in every sense and so on, and they support and supply it, uh, to evaluate at least what the peace fund in europe is engaged in supplying weapons to the territory of ukraine. that's it on its own. it's in e. the brain does not fit. it's just that in itself, but nevertheless i'd be fine with them well. yeah, that's why i think that uh such curly it became possible, yes, a collision. again, a new clash in the center of europe became possible for one simple reason, uh, once or more than once

in the centuries, the anglo-saxons educate the western european elite in such a way that it includes programs for the self-destruction of europe uh- huh and over the past 30 years, apparently they have not brought up this europe well, lena and ursula, and various others i will not be all favorite characters of our children's characters. yes, and with a rather specific past, if we parsed it differently, even in german it’s very very strange to say so, yes, here and uh, that’s what makes it possible to speak strangely. she says it’s strange that this is exactly what allows the anglo-saxons, at some point, under a combination of circumstances, at some point , uh, to form conflict lines that come, uh, lead, or rather, to this kind of conflicts on the territory of europe, moreover, right? current process