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are there defensive women? i have one candidate here for them not, thank you. ah. we are made in russia, born in the ussr but he wants to say that he is ufusholz, of course, you can look for a woman. what else to do? if he did not show himself as a man, however, ukrainians. today already said loudly until tomorrow. thank you for your attention. when they realized that there was no way to hide in the rooms. they opened the window and went out on this roof and hid on the roof. these are your adopted children, three by birth and five by foster children. on what basis did they come we had conflict with the eldest daughter. you took away her phone for educational purposes, they didn’t drag her children by dragging, but by the arms by the legs, and this is an organ. i've never seen a guard like this. i have a feeling that my heart is just becoming. it's just one of a kind. get out of the body, guardianship
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turned into a punishing body, roll, at any moment, one of them could even slip the bodies, guardianship should have tried to reconcile to talk to the children. i think this question is about how guardianship should have behaved. we can ask uh to our next hero yuri come join us. good afternoon september 1 is always a big holiday for both children and parents. and even those children who do not really like school on september 1st. all the same, they willingly go there after a long summer vacation, but our favorite guardianship authorities. we decided to deprive the children of this
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holiday. you know how much they are loved, it turns out, these are the girls who are there in these organs. here again. they were on our program and some kind of host, probably me. well, who else said? he shut your mouth. today we have to repeat. holiday september 1, 2022 was overshadowed by a shocking video on the internet. help. i can’t calm down, don’t touch me anymore, as it turned out on the eve of the day of knowledge, he was a large family of victoria of the earthen
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sverdlovsk region, authorities, guardianship forces, seized foster children. it's generally hours the children ran around guardianship. they didn't want to go to the orphanage . and when they realized that there was no way to hide in the rooms. they a-a opened the window and went out on this roof. and ah, the children were hiding on the roof of me and started screaming that vanya had been taken away. i ran outside. vanya was already in the car. i tried to pull the handle of the car to open it, but the car went forward. however , the authorities claim that the children themselves complained about the foster parents and for the safety of the children, the employees were forced to take extreme measures and there is a statement. uh, the fact of a threat to life to health, the fact of insulting humiliation, indicated by children, is enough to start checking. we stand for the protection of children, but the foster
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mother victoria earthen herself assures that she loves her children and has never divided them into relatives and foster children, she could not imagine that petty family conflict will destroy her family and bring her to court. i was angry with hatred not at my children, but at the guardianship employees who took and began to persuade the children. wrote an application for a refund instead of let's pull to talk, and let's resolve this situation. they say, write a statement. i say, on what basis they say, because that's what we want. today we are trying to understand what actually caused the conflict, how children with foster parents lived, and if the family has a chance connection. hello today in our studio victoria earthling and sverdlovsk region hello victoria. please tell us in more detail what happened to you. on august 31, a-a came to me in the morning, and a commission of guardianship employees and with the
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intention of picking up the children. uh, started to lure the kids. these are your adopted children. these are adopted children. how many families are brought up eight children three blood and five adopted uh-huh and on what basis did you not come, and they came, because we have a-a on the thirtieth of the day. yes, this day there was a planned detour, and they got into this planned detour at that moment, when i was not at home, i had not yet had time to return and we had a conflict with the eldest daughter of the receptionist with the eldest daughter, and she wrote a statement, and for a return, this is vika, this is vika then return. she wanted to come back here on the thirty-first. we had breakfast there and were also going to go now to sort out vika, but they came to the entire commission and said that it was necessary to write a voluntary application for five children, rather than a conflict. with vika, i needed the phone all the time. on vika's phone da vika always needed him and our
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agreements. she didn't even keep them. she what were agreed? well, let's go for 2 weeks without a phone, because there was a jamb, yes, it's big and you need to live without a phone for 2 weeks, but there is a computer that i give to children. yes, it looks like we agreed. yes, you took away her phone for educational purposes, because she exceeded there, as i understand it, what she promised. yes, there you said, everything is 2 weeks or two, but this happens not only in your family. forgive me in the family where the children are not adopted. let's let's see let's go let's go. it's already state-owned. children. it 's public all these on the grounds. what i won't explain, like this. i will write a statement stating that underage children are being held here. no, no one is going to get you for this
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. nobody nobody is beaten. i will not explain anything, but the fact is that now all the children will simply be sent to an orphanage because of you, in fact, they say you alone, and it ’s not my fault that they wrote a statement. for the phone you promise me that you won't touch it, i 'll tell you to go to the toilet, i don't touch it here with you. give me back, they dragged the car away to me. quietly
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said they dragged it away. they dragged the children and dragged them, yes, by the hands by the legs, yes, and these are representatives of the authorities, guardianships, along with this police. let's do it in order. yes, how many receptions do you have? how long have these adopted children been in your family? on what basis did they end up there and why were they seized first we had a blood child, he was 4 years old, and we took ah first vika she was nine years old we took vika she was then nine years old after ah they took vika, our first was born
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deniska and he is now 5 years old, and then we took vanya, he was then 10 years old. now he is 14 after vanya, we had maxim e, who we are now 3 years old and 2 years ago we took, and the seglings are kira dima and maxim brothers and sisters. so, all the same, only for. not victoria, uh, served this vakkanal or something else? and what, and communication with guardianship hmm before that? well, that is, in the spring of this year, when my husband went on his first business trip to a special operation, and-and he was a military man, yes, in the spring just when he was driving, and the boys were sent to clean the snow, but we have a private house and we need to clean the snow. your children, born by you, also shoveled snow, of course, yes, but adopted children. they don't really like it at all, well, it works. yes, it is for them too. here is a very complicated story and you sent him snow. for about 8 days they did not
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pretend that they were cleaning with her, then they discovered that they were hiding. we have, uh, on a three-story house and one exit goes to the other side. in general, they opened and hid. there we found it told them that the whole basement is closed to you to hide anymore. somewhere you have to clean the snow. they got offended and left. they complained, but they need to strengthen their request so that they are definitely heard. well, that is, this is also their strategy for the behavior of adopted children. they said they don't feed us at home, they make us work like cinderellas. the neighbor was scared. she is also a foster mother and informed the organ player about this. organs. guardianships arrived, and they came to see us that we had a full meal. everything is fine. we are waiting for these children. and you. well, they appointed a commission. and when i came to the commission instead of well somehow understand this situation in general . how to parse it? uh, that is, five people began to run into me and did not collect references from school, and one
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there in turn, this one did not have pencils, and this one came without mittens and there they tried me for an hour. eh, well. to accuse me of not coping, but no act was issued to me and this commission somehow came down and did not make any decision and did not help, but when the guardianship authorities arrived at the place. right there, right on the spot, they issued an order right here. a let's see this order ordering the end of custody. it is necessary to remove the earthen victoria evgenievna with minor children. she is acting as the guardian of the trustee to terminate the agreement on the foster family. again, the guardianship department is not able to ensure the further placement of minors. that is, they came to the call with a ready order, it turns out that now they have stopped guardianship over everyone. yes, i have houses now.
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children without documents. well, that is, that is, all five children that were under your care, they terminated custody of all five. yes, but at the same time, three live with you yes, without documents without documents, and two where, and two in an orphanage, they called me from some number there quietly. yes, so that this, well, that is, he has mental left. he remembers my phone number. and he says, hello mom. i say vanya - it's you out. yes, i'm talking like you, i'm fine, i'm in school. i'll go tomorrow. i say great. where are you going? she says, i don't know yet, they haven't told me anything. i understand correctly that, in general, children are adopted and with development feature. yes, and he is one of those five children. i have two children with disabilities and two children with mental retardation. well, plus because of the long stay as well. well, how outside a prosperous environment? yes? do children have experience of abuse? ah, they have
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mental traumas that need to be worked on and that we have been working with psychologists for many, many years. listen, i can’t move away from these frames that i saw, yes, that is, guardianship immediately came from the police or it happened later. they thought that i will write a voluntary and give all the children. they thought so, they came with the fact that you wrote a refusal. yes, when i realized that they seriously intended to pull out my children and take everything from me, i started calling the police to ask for help the first outfit that they arrived, and they were shown guardianship immediately wrote a statement that they helped to remove the children and showed this an order they made in an hour and police chairs. they couldn't help me anymore. they said that peka asked. well, you say help us get the kids out, and the staff said, that no we can't. if you need to pull out a lot, there will be a collaborator. you do it yourself pennies , we'll just look after well, for the order and then the second squad of police appeared, they already had it. well, anyway, they
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just started, they were dragging the second outfit. where were the two men already? yes? they called a psychologist, who distracted me and said, go to the toilet. we are letting you go. we promise you that the children will not be touched, and i just went to the toilet. i went out and vanilla. here they are, like this, by the hands by the legs, yes. we said you want live cactus. this is a motorized rifle stopper while you were hinting. of course, you can’t see me, you can’t hear me, as soon as you noticed me, it means that you understood everything. and what do you think i'm guilty of. that way you won't solve anything. i've already decided. you're here, i couldn't get through to you. it would seem to me that we can trust each other. trust me, too, it seemed. what are you doing here? this is an epidemic of patient zero, a big
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cinema 1tv presents test number 58 sukharev anton evgenievich annual name phantom to block all memories to turn off emotions. we have changed the composition of the serum. now nothing can interfere with the successful completion of tasks. the ghost of health. who are you, why are you following me ? it all lasted not 5 minutes, not 10 is true. yes, it was five o'clock and then everyone was tired and they were all tired. they are not expected that it would be like this. here is such a confrontation. so you understand, i look at these children. well, i really want to cry, how they were treated, when in general the children seemed to be on the roof, and you look the children are there. there alone no one tried, even
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in some way, but with good words or somehow. yes, you understand, even to talk to them at any moment, one of them could even slip and fall. we counted here, i don’t know, but more than five for offenses on the part of guardianship on the part of law enforcement agencies. it's just something out of the row, are they criminal or not? well, abuse of power, of course, criminal liability. i think that now the investigative committee will conduct an audit. after this transfer. great merit. i don’t know who is yours or someone else that this video still appeared on the social network. this is a neighbor opposite, but all 5 hours, what happened inside, who is filming savkin, our e friend. you didn't just shoot. you then posted it on social media and returned. yes, and they did the right thing, because otherwise this program would not be here now, when i arrived, do you understand this family? i feel like my heart, uh, feels like i've never seen anything like it. i have a
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feeling that my heart is now just getting it was it was the screams of children. this is uh, they were dragged by the hands by the legs, the police had responses, of course uh, there were a lot of views on my page and i posted it on other publics. uh, that's it, we watch a lot in this region people wrote in response to your video a terrible situation people who should help the family with such an injury the children were inflicted here by everyone who took away the legitimacy to check where these at the age of 15 can say anything they want, and here the excess of authority in its pure form patronizes from the word patronize. why is this punitive organization called guardianship? who are they taking care of? i'm thinking about how these people who dragged the kid like a bag of potatoes, and others. females, while the mother was distracted, as they all come home after work to their families. questions whether the representatives of the authorities have the right to treat
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minors from dysfunctional families, they need to be locked up promptly, and you stuck to a good family, if the kids had a bad time with this mother, they would not scream, but they themselves would run into the car, what problems did the daughter create for mom, horror, i just feel like now behind the screen sit people, especially such. well. not very developed people say, well, of course, she recruited children in order to receive grandmothers. tell us, please, about your grandmas. yes, but just now, and the guardianship authorities require reports to be submitted. eh, in hindsight. they are there, in general, and when i writing a report, it's always amazing, because when a gives out 12,000 allowances for children for these children, with this money. you need to buy clothes and shoes. a-a 12,000 rubles. it 's a month's child support, and clothes, shoes, medicine , hygiene, and hmm, transportation. yes, of course, meals, school supplies, and somewhere
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to go, camp or application to the sea. and the result that we write, he is several times higher than the money that the state gives e. let's show. in the country in what conditions did the children live? we have moved to the village of beloyarsky saw this house two years ago and realized that it was ours, we would all fit in there. you have a record now there will be a record for speed dima this is our garden this year we planted zucchini potatoes tomatoes, where are the largest zucchini, where who sees the largest. here we grow apples, and you
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will try to collect them. this year i have done a lot so that we have already made blanks , including cherries. they watch how it all grows there, they rejoice, because mom. let's collect tomatoes. in our house 8 rooms here we have a kitchen in this zone. we work with the guys with a psychologist. the guys lay out rugs, or sit at the table this year. we went with the guys to egypt ah. before that, we were in thailand. and it is very important for us to get together. and to see some new places every year. we go to photo shoots, everyone is going to get ready to dress up for children. this, of course, likes it participates, then we look at some beautiful dressed up. boys, they are here
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preparing for lessons and sleeping. there are a lot of books in every room because i love to read and i teach children to read so that they are educated. well, we want to live with mom and dad, because here there are books, friends, bicycles. at the music school they study flute and saxophone, the girls are my assistants and they study well at school. i felt better there than at the orphanage. well , she said guardianship, like, pack your things, let's go to the orphanage. no, we won’t go, but here it’s better that i already thought of going to the roof, the plan is running, i came up with guardianship
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. every day we live in fear. at any time, guardianship authorities can come to us and take the children to the orphanage children, it has nothing to do with it. they are not things, they should be left alone. they must be in the family. please tell me right. i understand that custody was only for you. yes, only you were the guardian of your spouse no. no, because when 6 years ago we went to the school of adoptive parents, and the military works day after day, day after two, and the school of foster parents must be attended on tuesdays and fridays , but he could not attend and e was not conducted online then. now he already has a school for foster parents. he is her finished. we have already understood that your spouse serves and even understood where a therefore could not come here. but we talked to him. let's listen to the complex character when we began to interact. it concerned. what and what am i going to do, like, that you've been
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digging around school again. we agreed that she was engaged, well , there were a lot of complaints about the room itself. she believed that this was her fortress; there were moments that a lot of food was dragged there. and it was eaten and not cleaned, respectively, and with me. hot-tempered character, i will not hide it, he could speak sharply, precisely, without turning into an insult, namely, in raised tones and a sharp form , he is soft, therefore he does not have such a thing. here is the rod that i have. well, he's a wonderful good boy. we quarreled with him on the subject. uh, damaging things is one of the moments that he broke the toilet with regards to my things, let's say. this is pulling out some items and tools from the garage. e no questions. you could take it, but you had to return it. i'm not sure that he could make it on his own, his decision is everything
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suited, as if he had no negative address here. well, there hasn't been a century of choice, i guess. perhaps she will be better. when we took vika, we didn’t understand at all that what vika was doing was happening, but she didn’t go to bed at all, in general , we wanted to return the pedagogical experience and the first year. i started asking for help, calling everywhere to write, who is in charge of us in yekaterinburg, in general, foster families, who can help us explain something, and we were taken for escort. find a family fund that still accompanies us and even in this stressful situations. it just turns out that you did not return the child, we were taught to look for a way out. how to learn? yes, i want to call. ivan ponomarenko which is your neighbor, i understand correctly, hello victoria. i really sympathize with you must what happened. about what happened in
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vike's family well, victoria called me and asked me to come, they don't talk about what is happening there, i came to see guardianship first. that's it, then the police came and tried to take the children away. i was just shocked by this from what is happening, and you have seen that guardianship never came to them did not see. they live there for 2 years, as if, well, i never noticed that someone came there for guardianship, i live something else, right in front of them. uh-huh, right here, and the children complained to you, the children never complained. they seem to walk with my children together. you know, we talked to other neighbors of this family. you are not the only neighbor. let's hear their opinions. in the garage they were cleaning up , they heard screams. we looked out the window and took out the child, took out the phone and decided to take it off, we were in shock, like by the arms by the legs. they drain across the road into a car like that, we haven't yet i've seen it, to be honest, i absolutely can't believe it at all, that's all. this happening go dragged happy walked. that is, or they flew to rest last year, i would like
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the children to be returned back to the children well. it 's much better there. naturally, than in an orphanage . such children. they are over there behind the fence, i can hear them. it’s strange that they don’t play, they run around attentively on their own, a woman so courteous to children has never heard her screaming at them or saying something else, you can understand, in principle, the guardianship authorities that this is what they did . they did their job and the truth, of course, i didn’t like how they brought the child in there, how the sack of potatoes would go. no, of course not, i was sociable when i studied in this class. we went home almost every day. mom , my mother must be kind, she always invited kindness, she allowed everything, well, parental she came to the parent meeting, her father was evil , he was always not dissatisfied with something. and now kines kira call up. she says this, i miss you. i can't. i want to go to school but they can’t immediately come there to go there by the hands
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by the legs pulled out. vanya then they will come and pick them up, vika is also not sociable. she always sat at the table and did not talk to anyone and on the phone. i always poked, she said i don’t need it, and i’d rather have a phone more expensive, because the phone doesn’t take away from you at home. even children are different. children. they say that everything was fine for vika, the phone that she was ready to exchange for a family was just important. well, with this question i had to go to the guardianship authorities. foster family earthen was registered with us. they came to us in september 2020. there were five adopted children in the family. our specialist, as part of a scheduled inspection on the 30th, went to the address of the family’s residence and, in a conversation, the older children complained, let’s say then, that victoria’s foster parents, her husband, humiliate,
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insult, use physical force against them and against younger children. we could not ignore this statement. it was said as if by word of mouth. so it was written by the children in writing, the next day plus another thirty-one to us information was received from the class teacher of the older girl, who said that in the evening a girl came to her, who had a conflict with her foster mother at home during the conflict with respect to the girl, the mother was applied. the physical strength of the girl stayed overnight with the class teacher. this fact was also reported to us by the class teacher, he is 31 again, they went to the family to sort out this situation, it is possible to save it. if possible, uh, this substitute family for children, we proposed victoria evgenievna temporary placement of children. in institutions. victoria evgenievna categorically refused this proposal. i may have been forced to issue
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a regulation on this armor of children to be placed in a child today. everything is fine. here is an institution attending school. please, examination. victoria is fine too. started studying. the rest of the children should be defending the school. we will do everything to ensure that they do not start training as soon as possible today in a judicial proceeding . solving the issue of returning children from earth. hmm, the class teacher who sounded the alarm, who allegedly slept with a girl who was subjected to violence, and she then reported this. yes, i should have run into this studio and told why she had beaten all the bells. what kind of scary ones actually crawled into the lowest rat gap, where you can’t get it from and no one at the school where
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you studied? the children did not come into contact with us, did not speak to me, to be honest, one more fact. uh, it affects very much, to be honest, it kills the organs, the guardians should have done everything, at least try to reconcile reconcile talk with children to smooth out this conflict situation. i think this question is about how guardianship should have behaved. we can ask uh, our next hero. this is yuri demin, he is the chairman of the association of foster parents of the sverdlovsk regional organization. yury come to us hello please yury how did you find out about this situation, well, victoria called me sent a video, i immediately contacted the commissioner for human rights of the sverdlovsk region. it was evening, and at 9:00 she already said that she would
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immediately call the prosecutor of the beloyarsk district after a call from the commissioner for human rights, a meeting was scheduled with the prosecutor of the district, which means that he has been asking me for centuries, he says, can i go there or what should i do? because they will blame me again for leaving their children there. well, and something like that. she came and the prosecutor. here's according to vika's words. he just rudely kicked me out and said, i didn’t call you, come when you called you, we filed a lawsuit in court, but so far no one has asked me invites no dialogue fact, in fact blatant. but we must and will deal with it, and i am ready to make every effort to understand and accept it. eh, in my opinion. here. so far, purely from my personal opinion, yes, uh, cancel this order so that the children, as quickly as possible, return to the family, we turned. eh, then, well, we need to get some information as much as possible. with the
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director and teacher of the center not a school, but an out-of-school center where do children study? let's listen. we have known this family for almost two years now. all the children were enrolled in 2-3 circles, but, unfortunately, during the year everyone managed to visit them. victoria, that is, by, probably, april, only then she wrote a statement on accrual from the programs of the situation, there were no conflicting disputes with her mother, because she always got in touch if there were any problem moments well, in particular, during the summer wellness shift, the weather was hot, so it was necessary that the children were in protective gear. here we are with mom promptly contacted in the situation, respectively, immediately changed the next day. well , the requirements were met with
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my eldest daughter more than once, that is, i had the opportunity to talk, because we went directly to my section of the child quite openly and confidentially. i called my mother. uh, always consulted with her, that is, features. well, the teenage period, probably, about phones, they said that yes, phones are taken away for bad behavior for uh, bad grades in studies of smoke, without fire, as they say, it doesn’t happen, of course, that’s all need to be checked. well, during my studies, i want to say that the children very diligent parents bought the instrument right away. well, everything, they, of course, succeeded. this is, as usual, in children in just a year. you know, mom came to the meeting, i had such that you mom didn’t come, as for the school booth, everything was fine.
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