it is not a form of mass political repression that contradicts the constitution of ukraine and international agreements adopted by this state. the persecution of dissent is carried out on all fronts from the complete ban on the opposition and the arrest of public opinion leaders to the destruction of freedom of speech and even freedom of religion. as such, it is not about interference in church affairs and not particularly church affairs. the fact is that we are convinced that the processes taking place in ukraine are directly related to international peace and security and directly affects the prospects for restoring peace in that country. an important day in the history of our country today is exactly 80 years since the breaking of the blockade of leningrad during the great patriotic war to break the ring the siege of the city by the german invaders of the red army. it was possible as a result of a successful operation, the spark of military operations was led by marshals georgy zhukov and klement voroshilov, land communications with leningrad.

it was restored and the residents of the city began to receive food, and a little more, than in a year. the siege was lifted to fight the fascist invaders became the whole country. today, commemorative events will be held in the northern capital in honor of the inhabitants of leningrad , who, for 872 days of hunger and constant shelling, did not break and accomplished this feat. orthodox christians today celebrate epiphany christmas eve, and on the evening of the epiphany, believers today have a strict fast, when they are allowed to eat only juice from here and one of the names of the holiday in churches after the festive liturgy illuminates the water, it is believed that then it acquires healing properties, including in ice-holes, as in our country, in which believers begin on the night of epiphany, it is reported that on this day more than 3,000 jordans will be officially equipped in our country. but epiphany frosts are not expected everywhere, for example, in yakutia, according to weather forecasts, in some places it will be up to -50, and weather forecasters for muscovites for epiphany. they promise

very warm weather, the air in the capital can warm up to plus five. to this darkness, everything is see you. it 's amazing but for 19 years. i think he has read more books than very many people read. there, for 50 years, and i managed to understand a lot of things that people cannot understand until old age. so he was, of course, stuck and beyond his years, but at the same time, of course, he and a young man, of course, he is a very young man, of course, he shoots a boy for them. and so it connects and such a parisian boy is a man who dresses beautifully. what does this word actually mean? uh, if you first uttered

akhmatova to one of the testimonies, she was so angry at him, angry with them, she said to the parisian panel, not to the boys. well of course, that's what she said, he really was a boy. he was very, very fond of his hometown, adored city, and the more the time of his departure from paris passed, the more he loved to look at him very closely at first, he starts from looking, says, everything is fancy, died for ifui. this is the opposition of a recent emigrant. that is, on the place where i left, nothing good. no, what is it? means? this means that he is experiencing some kind of enthusiasm for russia, of course, all left-wing intellect went to the country that defeated socialism. well, of course, soviet russia attracted many people. yes , i remember, herbert wells, who was at lenin's, wanted to write about that book of russia in the morning, the deer called the kremlin dreamer, but still the young soviet union is very

attractive. uh, such a story for many intellectuals in europe. this is very important, finally a world of justice, a world of hope, uh, for the saint, it was a homecoming. and then disappointment is a tragedy, but for moore, if you read your book, it was a time of discoveries of sympathy. that was the time discovery, as for anyone, probably, a person at his age is still 15-16 years old. this is the opening of the world. yeah, when a person starts to fall in love. yes, a woman's dream appears, an important topic, a woman's dream. yes, yes, this is, of course, one of the main things for the muva, it occupies, as he said, that in 95% of the time in moscow he thought of women. uh, avtoshkente oh, food 90 is already in evacuation, yes evacuation. yeah, constantly hungry subtypes of war, and before the war in well-fed moscow about women. yes, you said, but with

this moscow it is also important to understand, but we all we remember the picture of pimenov yes, where is the lady driving the car, where is such a new look of moscow but this is such a dual moscow , its dual reputation is dual. uh, its structure on the one hand. we know that this is the beginning of stalin's time. these are totalitarian parades, and hypocrisy lies dangers and so on and so forth on the other side. uh, the number of moscow is also the hero of your book. and it is no coincidence that she and her name are present in the name of stalinist moscow well, stalinist, it is stalinist, but you write with such penetrating attention from the urals about moscow, uh, very detailed. yes, and with great skill. write about alcohol. write about types of recreation, write about sports in football. where does all this knowledge come from, apparently, your

historical specialty plays a role, first of all. yes, of course, firstly, i am a muscovite, too, not a stranger. i have been going to moscow for 22 years every year several times a year. yeah, and often for a long time i have relatives here, so i often visit moscow and my work is often connected with e. in order to go to the library in leninka, the library, which has become completely native to me, or there, and i, yes, i spent a very, very long time there on podcasts that encourage people to read. this is an important moment in the work on all books. and before that, at dessert uh-huh, and therefore i know moscow quite well. uh, that is almost a quarter of a century. i'm here, uh, every year they come on duty later. eh, of course, i still study to a greater extent by sources. this is , uh, a feature of my work. i walked the routes that the flies walked, i specifically

studied this. if you got used. yes, of course, i went. uh, where he walked with a girl called his first girlfriend. i cleaned out roughly how she went to school or not. well, i tried to feel myself. he and i do not have much in common, but there is something in common, but we both love. he adored looking at the capital's shop windows, and now he loved it, just the kuznetsky bridge stoleshnikov gorky street but not tverskaya street, which just then acquired a modern look, but a writer who writes about history. eh, well, or writes documentary prose, he must necessarily sympathize with the hero, as if getting used to him. or maybe he must understand him; it is not necessary to sympathize with him. i think leonid abramovich vezifovich. hardly sympathetic to the baron died, but understandable. but he tried to understand him, someone understood amur around, so it seems that this is still a very

lonely person who is annoyed by many things , including his own mother marina ivanovna tsvetaeva, there are moments when he writes them. well, how to say it with some tension, someone understood it. you are 19 years old, he really missed it enough understanding. maybe about the second hero of the book. here one word is worth saying one of a few. the people who understood him, and as it turned out, his friend michka was far from being completely, dmitry sizeman was a man of similar fate, he was also born abroad, only lived for many years. yes, and he, who was born abroad in helsinki, grew up, how did he come from a wonderful family in paris to son sizemans, a very wonderful family, uh, and his mother, apparently, were recruited by sergei yakovlevich and the fate of a very similar relationship. they were incredibly close when marina ivanovna a. mitya will be a

very close person for him, because ali at this time, uh, is sitting. and mitin, e, freedom, yes, yes, and mitya with a withdrawal becomes very close to him. he is not just a friend, he is a compatriot, as time is compressed, and marina ivanovna returns. the war begins. she perishes in yelabuga right there, and they go to the front. moore and everything ends right there, that is, these are literally the last three or four years. yes, yes, and dmitry, his fate is very similar to the fate of moore, and only fork begins. here, where e could die from dmitry, who also fought, and went to volunteers. he remained alive and he lived the fate that could live for him, who also he lived a very long life under 90 88 years. he returned to paris, he became his father, as he could become a fly. that is, this is a somewhat

unrealized fate of moore, well, like the great poets pasternak tsvetaeva akhmat in mandelstam, two ladies, two men, two figures who died much earlier and not naturally unnatural death, violent death, uh, or in the case tsvetaeva as a result of the suicide of others. the two poets lived a little longer, and it is from this voluminous coincidence that the discrepancy arises in the book. mr. sergei belyakov, let's tell our listeners a wonderful three-dimensional picture of this most difficult time, when a lot of hopes for a happy communist future converged, disappointment in them the great war and so on, but still, there are several of them in other books, but perhaps the two most known for the same thing and also received an award. eh, a few years ago. call it gumilyov, the son of gumilyov, this is the most complete on

today the most extensive biographies of lev nikolaevich gumilyov turned out that i wrote books about the sons of two great women, poets, although i didn’t have such a goal, i did n’t think about it, but yes, it’s wonderful, and you also got used to lev nikolaevich or not, probably , it is impossible to get used to it. we are very different. although they were born in one. on the same day , he and i have a birthday. on october 1, i generally went into an emergency problem. every morning, opening my eyes around me, so many things are happening incomprehensibly. he doesn't know in what world will wake up. you see the cross, it means that today i am with cyril and he sees me because he no longer has a mother without his beloved wife. no one understood whether or not i’ll wake up here in the morning without my only son, krug svetka will be alive and hate me for cyril x, don’t

get confused. the awakening of the premiere of a multi-part film will soon be on the first well, let us remind our listeners that lev nikolaevich gumilyov. this is such a heretic from history, in fact, the contour is very controversial, he personally bases the historical process on natural factors to a greater extent . degree, they are social, but this is just very good, because, as he asserted the unity of the world and the fact that in a person it is difficult to

separate the natural social is an illusion, when we separate the social from nature, well, natural is something with which argue. uh, now, for example, dark nights and short days, nothing can be done about it. yes, yes, it's not june , and gumilyov said hmm, his main term is passionarity. this is the moment when it 's uh, uh it's climaxing and then you can't do anything if it's the climax passed whether it is the empire of alexander the great or the ottoman empire or the british empire, then then it starts with a fee. this is a very kind of picture, which in soviet times was apocryphally appealing. poluzapny with lev nikolaevich, of course, the most difficult fate of the conclusion of e. a. right now, uh, still among professional historians. mm. what is the reputation of gumilyov, i heard that everyone admires, uh, historians and culturologists and geographers of various profiles, until it comes to their specialty. they say it in

he is good for everyone, but there in buddhology in the science of oguns, and here, and these are the correct characteristics, because he once said for sure, e, he offered him academician kondra to participate in the work on the ten-volume general history published at that time. uh, he really liked this idea, he wrote a general history. this is the one that i am interested in what i would like to do. he lies screaming, like a story that he can and knows how to operate just like that. at this level, at the level of general history, and we are all engaged in specific ones, including myself. specific narrow problems and in narrow problems. he understood less, but more than, well, he understood exactly the world-historical process, and he was very good in this regard, and now we have a rubric called the old book and in

this rubric i will, uh, just talk about those books that i have on the shelf, because like you, seryozha, of course, i have a lot of books at home and, uh, we now have a century of electronic resources, of course, these are fantastic opportunities. we can read without leaving home. there are very many books. e all over the world, but here's what i want to say. i want to tell about myself in this section, how i feel about old books. in my hands is the book of nikolai vasilyevich gogol , this is the third volume from the famous one. the professional environment of the tenth edition of the collected works of gogol prepared it. eh, techies about it. we will say more today, but the point is that books work. eh, when we see their roots, i am convinced that i have communication with them, there is no mysticism here. i do not really like the reasoning that there is a smell. e, there is

tactile sensations. they really do enjoy this book. hey, i'll keep it in my hands. now we will open it, but another thing is important, when i, uh, soot at my table, when i enter the room where my books are. many of them are read, then whenever they get, uh, spine into view. i remember something. i understand that my friend is here, who continues to talk to me. and, if i have millions of files on my computer, then i cannot see them all the time. e. well, what do i care that, damn, such congresses or in russian state library? the files are there. well, let's open this book, it was published in 1889. this year. this is the third volume of the collected works and, uh, here, uh, dead souls, the first volume, dead souls in the third volume, it is very important that this book has, as it were, one more co-author, this is nikolai savvich, tikhanravov. a very famous philologist.

literary historian for a certain time. this is the rector of the imperial moscow university, and this man alone, but commented on and checked with the manuscripts most of gogol's texts, most of this what the whole institute did later and the thing is that uh, a very big danger is, uh, that we are looking for search engines on the internet for dead souls and reading the text. i call it screen failure and i even know that in some countries this term is taken up by descre. feyrioreti, that is , those who, freed from their carrier, lose this co-authorship of tikhonravov because nikolai tikhonravov. i read many fragments, otherwise i rethought a lot, and here it is so directly said that the text is verified the author's own handwritten manuscripts and

original editions of his works when i see this book. uh, not even on the table, but just on the bookshelf. i will definitely remember that there are wonderful pastings here. what, for example, at the very beginning of the book? here, uh, there is. uh, the insert of the second edition of the forty-sixth year, where it is written. uh, the name under which the book was published is the adventures of chichikov or dead souls, because a dead soul does not exist. e, this censorship would not have missed, since the souls are immortal and right away when i just walk past this book. arises, perhaps, the most important. uh, from what, for example, i see in this book, this is such a wandering flickering intrigue, as andrei bely said . sparrow either these people are alive

or dead. i think, in general, at these moments, and how unexpected for contemporaries was the fact that gogol , wanting to portray hellish paradise and such a perfect one in russian life, chose this petty rogue, chichikov well, no, it’s not obvious that the infernal beginning of evil will be embodied in this petty swindler who collects the effectiveness of information about the peasants whom he wants to bring to the kherson province and play the role of a landowner, this and the red scroll in on a farm near dikanka this is gogol uh, this is evil that lies in everyday life and that's it. i see this just by passing by this book. i remember that this book is not only a text, but a text plus stories of its comprehension. gogol refused dead souls. e in the book selected places from correspondence with friends, which came out just in that same forty-sixth year, and in

which the publication of the first volume was also published, the title page of dead souls, which is reproduced here, so gogol refused the dead souls of the rezor. he loudly declared that the writer should not be a satirist and a preacher. but what has become of us the writer has no power over your creation in this book, which stands on my shelf a whole story, in addition to the text and the text that was published in 1842, the first edition and in forty-sixth title page, here reproduced and one thousand eight hundred and eighty- ninth and beyond. further development of great books is a whole story, therefore old books. eh, are very important in the lives of those who love to read and who count with pleasure. and i write chichikov in my other book. yes, yes, yes, which is called the shadow of the ukrainian nation in the era of gogol and gogol, a

lot of pages are devoted there. he is, in fact, one of the main characters. and just m-th image of chichikov i also surprise the attention, and from my point of view, the image of chichikov is just a look for a russian person. from poltava with ukraine from little russia this is how a russian person was imagined during the seasons, especially in his childhood. that's exactly what it would be like with a russian person, the russian image of a russian person, changed and now, but in that era at the beginning of the 19th century. it was an image of such a revolving, active, uh, person who loves money, who loves knows how to earn it, and without stopping to be, maybe nothing. well, what is delivered. well , let's not stop with small sins. and that's it such an image of a russian person for gogol but this person, according to gogol, is destined for a great

historical mission, but he is not ready for it. he needs to be prepared. it needs to be transformed, and in this was and this mystical man, not ready for his great historical. although he is a very successful chichikov is a successful person, of course, like russia was successful, but this russian person. it was supposed to be prepared by gogol for his great historical mission. in this it is he who will prepare, but it didn’t work out, it’s important that old books continue to live, of course, these are not antiques. it's not just a museum piece. although i, like us, a bunny, would also appreciate this book if it were in a museum window, but this is what continues to live with us living side by side and without old books it is impossible to understand modern literature and let's still return to it and the rest of our conversation . uh, hmm to her, but here we have, uh, the results of the literary year. this is a very hot topic, there are a lot of judgments on

this topic and the largest ones. the big book prize, the already named yasnaya polyana prize, is also very authoritative e, which arose around the pushkin museum-reserve around the tolstoy family around the name of leo nikolayevich tolstoy but uh, and in that prize in another, the percentage is very large, the proportion is large hmm these are documentary biographical books. and we have a very big debate about this here, but in a large book, all three awards, the first, second and third, were received by the authors of e, who did not write fiction. in the literal sense, and not fiction, as it is now customary to say anonchik, it's not only you, but this is pavel basinsky, the author of the book the true story of anna karenina and alexey varlamov is the author of the biography of vasily vasilyevich rozovy. what's the matter here? e hmm why such a preponderance of e biographical

non-fiction? does this mean that simply, as such, but fades into the background. is it not relevant or are there no major writers or no serious readers? what 's the matter here? do you think we have a professional writer, we have grandiose writers now. eh, but this interest is not random i would even note. here are the uh ten finalists of the big book, if i'm not mistaken, 8 texts eight related to history, this is a historical novel, like a chronicle of a hunchback. sophia sinitskaya is a very elegantly well-written thing, but this is not a traditional historical analysis on a plane for the most journalist. yes honor yes, these are the finalists. these are very worthy books. and, of course, uh, roz’s biography was written by varlamov, of course, hmm, a genuine, uh, story in cainin, and

written in lombasin, that is, all this is connected with history, this is not accidental, because, firstly, we live in history . we live in uh in this temporary reality. we we are not always just aware, it seems to us that we live in modern times. we think about the future for the present - this is mick, she becomes outdated instantly. and we ourselves are surrounded by history and its fruits. history in everything our activity before is determined by what we did in the past or and our friends there politicians we know did there too in the past , distant or not far away, therefore the interest of history. he is quite understandable, natural, he is not situational, but it’s another matter that uh, well, the circumstances are such that this time there is a lot of biography among the winners. although here i'm with her in a clearing because hmm, my search for the boys, in my opinion, was the only documentary. yes there, yes there just possessed, he did not

act to argue with you. of course, as a historian. you say the right things, but still, in the 19th century, and there were a minimum of historical books from the great books, that is, after all, the main question for the literature of the 19th century is the hero of the time. it's the flutter of time. uh, as the spirit of the times says, as the germans said, and uh, of course, this book is modern, but compare prince silver alexei kondirovich tolstoy a wonderful novel about the era of ivan the terrible , and at the same time, almost simultaneously with a difference of a year, turgenev's novel fathers and sons, or the same hero of our time or oblomov or demons, that's the point, where and where we even have fragments, where we have oblomov where do we have bazarov huh? where we have such heroes, modern writers can

do a lot, we have wonderful magnificent prose writers. well, that's it to create a modern hero, but is it still or not? they somehow fail, let's say one of them can to be the most memorable heroes of the last last, probably, decades. this is e laurus from evgeny vodolazkin's personalized novel. well , again, this is a hero who operates in the distant historical past. you know, let me assume that the twentieth century for our country, no matter how it is called the russian empire, the soviet union of the russian federation, is one tradition. one great country, but still this century has not yet been lived. well, too different views on him, or was it the way delusion, whether it was the path of unrealized great goals. and hmm, i’m judging, so we’ll get a complete picture of the 20th century, when loli will become on a par with roman ostrovsky how the steel was tempered

it was both, and in different periods of the 20th century and at the beginning of the 21st we cross out that one something else, so i still think that this state of affairs is not very good. natural, when time after time. we are returning to the past , moreover, look, we have not yet named the wonderful roman of anna matveeva's cards. yes. we're all talking about those prose books. very interesting, very interesting, of course, a novel, but look here, uh, four or five even cases that are just novels that are based on authentic diaries of ancestors, yes, grandfathers or great-grandfathers. it's part or all of yakhin's needle and uh hmm afanasy mamedov and uh, anna matveeva of course. eh, that's all fine with her books. this is all. uh, a very important phenomenon in modern literature, and yet hmm, maybe it’s still possible to

say provocatively or provocatively that in the 19th century, when there was a rise, literature historical theme faded into the background. turgenev has not a single line about the history of dostoevsky, practically not a single ostrovsky kozma minich. sukharuk. the only, perhaps, a play about history. uh, well, after pushkin and lermontov about gogol of course there are a lot, but this is an earlier period at the peak of the development of russian prose, a historical theme in the 19th century. well, they still go to such a well, well, no, but still. well, would be out of the year again. and pushkin's sixteenth year. yes. yes, of course, but i don’t know. the fact is that the 20th century, really has not ended, apparently, and at least we are still discussing topical problems as well. what was stalin and how to relate to stalin's time, and how to relate and what is evolution? right now? the centenary of the soviet union, these problems

remain relevant, they have not been lived through, these are recent. yes, yes, yes. i agree, this is not the recent historical past, which can be said calmly , yes, which for us, as it already merges with some kind of fantasy. yes, this is not a world, the middle ages, although in the middle ages there are in our middle ages there are very hot subjects. there say two words. more precisely, three words ivan the terrible and karamzin will immediately get a full discussion in the country, they will reach personal insults and so on, therefore history is a science. a very topical story, stays with us to write or the stories of sergei belyakov. i am pleased to wish you new books, and readers new impressions from your books. thank you for visiting us and see you again. thank you. best wishes. goodbye, goodbye.

as you know, we understand everything in what sports in medicine, and in politics everyone understands this there is another area that everyone uses, but no one understands what it is all about. this is the very area in which i am in love and which has now become my second life, my second destiny for the rest of my life. this is aviation. our whole destiny is there and we all strive to make something better, something more beautiful and something higher. let's try. meet me in the cockpit today will be such a familiarization introductory flight, i will show you the landing of the aircraft, in some

surprisingly strange weather conditions at various airports at night in the afternoon in the fog, and with this we will begin a conversation about what happens to us in that very delightful moment when we rise into the air ahead of me. sheremetyevo tower 65 135 permission to launch tayanka, 52, 135, sheremetyevo tower good afternoon, i allow launching to parking lot 5 , dear citizens of passengers. welcome aboard flight 1234 training flight we are pleasantly surprised that you have agreed to participate with us. on this training flight. enjoy travel, forever ready to help you enjoy the flight on our plane sheremetyevo tower 32-135 performer

0.6 central is ready. you need to take off these two handles of the engine control handle, firstly, put the flaps in the first position in order to make it more convenient or easier to take off there, then we carefully add engine speed. here i am doing it. the car started moving to remove the landing gear, it should be noted that now we are flying in ideal conditions in a professional language. it's called forging appearance, a million to a million. the weather is beautiful. there is no wind, no turbulence

. we quite calmly enjoy the fact that we are with you in the air, like birds release flaps of 5 degrees. and here we are with you. now we will try

to show landing. let's say if it's raining, thunderstorm and wind we'll set the conditions. but not to be. the pilot pilot is obliged to follow this cross and this square must be exactly in the cross, then everything will be fine, so that this does not happen not easy, but nonetheless.

well, a little more difficult, but still. it's possible, now let's try to land the plane. when visibility is poor, let's say fog , i practically won't see anything. difficult. it is necessary to study only my reference point. this is the device that is in front of me. i need to keep this little black square right here in the center of the cross. if i do this, everything will be fine. flaps spoilers flaps 35 landing 0.60 °

and we will show, now one of the most difficult landings is one of the most difficult lanes, located in the mountains in order to land at the airport of bhutan, which i am now talking about. it is necessary to obtain a special license for people who have received such a license in the world, only about 20 people all. here it is, there, here, uh, the slope and the saddle of the slope. we go down here is the river bed,

we go straight a couple of words of the river. several introductory designers fighter tankers testers great cause people living in the sky the prince got married. why is such a cool cinderella friday on the first one

a must? it’s a pity we continue talk about aviation. today we will touch on the topic of surprising little, to whom we know we will talk about psychology. our guest is yuliya valentina slavinskaya valentina hello how can i introduce you? who am i talking to today? medical psychologist candidate of psychological sciences associate professor you are related to aviation, for example, people who are trying to enter aviation people who have entered some aviation educational institution or people who, for example, are leaving military aviation and moving to civil aviation you touch this

categories of people. yes that's right. all three categories you listed are those, uh, aviation personnel who undergo an assessment of their health, including mental health, medical flight export commission, and are tested by a psychologist. e. well, here, if very briefly succinctly, the first part is the minimum part consists of two blocks. this is an assessment of the personality, mental state , personal characteristics, type of response, prevailing, and so on. and of course, mental stability and the second block is already higher mental functions are cognitive functions, that is, roughly speaking, pvk professionally important qualities will be a specialist doctor. well, nevertheless, do you have a non-kayphobia yourself? some feeling. what do you decide, because fate is unconditional, well, as an honored pilot, and he has nothing but the sky, nothing else at all. and now you need

to pass sentences to say or just write in person, it’s unlikely, but still write unfit for flight work. as it is in itself a psychologist is not an expert that is. let's immediately clarify this point, i do not write in my conclusion. eligible-not eligible to perform flight work. i write about whether e has or does not have contraindications. in my opinion, from the side of psychology and psychological characteristics to perform their professional duties. the psychologist works with the neurologist and psychiatrist, and the neurologist makes expert final decisions. it 's always this all over the country. there are certain criteria. this is a very long conversation. there is a whole guide, written down. well , for years, when hmm a number of features may indicate that their professional duties of a person, even with a high level of seniority and experience. to cope with what this may be due to atherosclerosis of cerebral vessels age-related changes in blood flow, nutrition of the brain and the quality of work

, it is clear that up to 40-45 the compensatory capabilities of the human brain are very high, as a rule, even some areas of the brain work. let's just say not very much. e, effective qualitative compensation. however, over the years this quality may decrease. excuse me, you work with pilots, after all, civil aviation is unambiguous. this civil aviation. these are controller pilots, earlier flight attendants also passed testimonies with us. uh had either relationships with people who, say, enrolled in, uh, some educational institutions of the aviation profile. first, the student. always passes professional psychological selection. it is always impossible without this, it does not happen that someone enters a flight school and does not pass a psychologist. that doesn't happen. this is the first next stage when he meets with a psychologist - of course. flight practice before the start of real flights, then there is when the simulator training ends, the theoretical training begins flight practice and then. naturally, after three

employments in the company, he came to the airline as his co-pilot, so he sat on the right cup and at that moment behind him. 100 200 300 passengers this is the feeling, what does it mean in terms of psychological stress, what does it mean for a person, how obvious is it or is it different for everyone? first, everyone is very individual. secondly, you understand, who is the moment i will immediately say, so that something it was clear, i understand, but i work in the examination, not in consulting. this is to a counseling psychologist of a person and does share his experiences, feelings, and so on to us. they come with one deepest installation to say that everything is fine with him. he is perfectly adapted wonderfully, socialized with no nervous mental instability. even answering questions in the leading questionnaire in the main questionnaire, for example, let's say the job is given to me at the cost of considerable stress. the majority answers in the negative, that is, there is no tension. bliss pleasure. super. here is my most favorite,

such a component of life, and so on and so forth. but when you start talking. naturally, they understand what is at stake. that is, as tension as mobilization. of course, takeoff and landing, well, it would be strange not to understand this. it would already be, probably, about the immaturity of the psyche. if a person did not give himself a report on this. we had a case when a pilates girl was the second pilot. exactly after retraining for a new type of aviation technology, she refused to passing psychological selection and a psychiatrist is not mine. that's exactly what you were talking about, that is, realizing that this is not a light aircraft. and that's all she's risking her own life with. well, the cost of the aircraft. yes, very cynical. that's realizing that it's hmm a huge board and a large number of passengers for the life of which she is responsible even to be a co-pilot. she said that's what she came up with. she feels not mine. she left with this met, and units. here are just a few, i

met more cases when a person trying to deny. this is the fear. there was a case of the second course of flight education. i won't name specifics. here you also know yourself, when he had a literally panic attack on board, with all the classic vegetative manifestations, blanching , dizziness, nausea, fear. loss of consciousness, rapid breathing, hard to sit on , the instructors were already piloting. naturally. he landed the plane and literally in the arms of this boy pulled out of the cockpit leaned against a tree and after all this, despite the fact that the instructor was completely a witness to this whole situation. i have this young man denied. i say that the instructor thought it all to the psychology of a man of women. i'm asking this from the point of view of people, of course, who don't know anything about it at all. well, here's what the pilots, or rather the pilot's instructor, tell me. and that the girls even, probably, somehow more maturely,

more consciously, more qualitatively, more scrupulously and responsibly approach exactly the theoretical training pilots more carefully. it's that traditional. it may be closer to a male profession, but i'm just i want to say that girls also go into this profession with such, you know, a steel rod, that is, this component is closer to the male type of response in almost all of them . and how widespread is the phobia hmm fear of flying. i mean from the point of view of a profession, let's say a pilot, and from the point of view of passengers , this phobia of the fear of flying is very common. well, we are all from the point of view of the acceleration of the rhythm and so on loads of this disturbance of sleep and wakefulness are not healthier, therefore, and any phobia is a disorder based on the nervous systems, so people are prone to an anxious type of reaction to depressive reactions. it even lists a little. no, well,

anxiety. it's just to drown it out, as you can't drown it out in any way. this is working with a psychotherapist from working as a specialist. you can drown it out with medication, that is, dull its manifestation. well, as if in everyday life, namely to get rid of anxiety. she is not subject. this is what you know besvoda just worries me. i'm just afraid of this feeling of irrational fear, fear of some events. perhaps there are some offensives that can happen. something bad, something terrible. this anxiety is pure in the form of behold, while fear is always the subject. do you need spiders? yes? no, i mean, i'm not afraid of them. this is what i mean in general. here is the fear of public speaking. yes, that is, fear has an object. i know what i'm afraid of, but anxiety is not anxiety - she is more than that age. what i'm afraid of is understandable. e question. why am i afraid of this? but with this it is necessary to work, this is a

subjective anxiety to go out to specific fears. that is, for example, there is the same flight phobia. yes, we're going out on m-m. here, again, this psychotherapist works with a psychologist. and when you need to subject your fears to understand why? you are specifically afraid, then get your memories of associations. here, uh, delve into your, let's say, conscious and unconscious, by the way, speaking, also here to find the reason from where this fear was born and further. do you understand to survive to live? i think that, that is, it is known. i came up with the idea that a person is afraid of what he does not know, or this is one of this, probably one of the parties. in that sense, for example, let's say, again. uh, phobia is irrational and uncontrollable. this is a larger global feeling of specific fear, when a person knows what he is afraid of. yes, this is where the lack of information works, when we get to know our fear, figure out what are the risks? how much what are the possible consequences? how to

avoid them? let's say the fear of the first flight can be formulated as follows, but this is not a phobia, this is fear. that is, this is a normal reasonable such an internal barometer. here is an understanding of what is behind my actions some outcomes. and i have to understand what i should do in what situation to avoid these risks. fear and phobia, you say that these are different things. what is the difference phobia is a disorder. this is a mental disorder. this disease is a disease that already belongs to psychiatry, not to psychology. phobia is without objective and rational. that is, i have a general understanding of what i'm afraid of there is the fear of a closed space, that is, a person is not in a closed space, but he knows that he is afraid to be there. and probably, let's do the most uh, understandable, uh, the criterion for phobia is avoidant behavior. that is, if a person is afraid of something at the level of a phobia, he will avoid facing this situation. well, for example, claustrophobia.

yes, i'm afraid to ride in an elevator. here i will walk to the tenth floor. even when there is no time at all, but i will not be in the elevator at all, that is, by any means. i understand this, i had several acquaintances who were so afraid of flying that they refused any even very profitable offers. yes, they agreed. only if he let, let much, much longer, he will travel by train, sail on ships and so on, as long as he does not fly in any case, but the tickets get sick on the day of departure. it makes me feel so sick that suddenly it’s really bad, suddenly i got poisoned, a great reason. but if we started talking about it, then suppose, do i need to fly for work, well, belongings for life, it's just, well, you need to fly, and the more he flies probably this fear should be extinguished. but it is not extinguished phobia here, if we speak bluntly, it is very terminology, it will be present so important avoiding behavior that he is unlikely to rise set

even if necessary. and one more thing is clear that it is possible to work as psychotherapists, by the way, hypnosis, they say, works very well. they call there. uh, let's just say, well, they're programming for amnesia. it is this feeling of fear just before the flight that fixes and motivates you for the benefit that you get from this flight. well, the speed of moving the solution of their questions to be there on vacation, in the place where this accident was going to well, they say it works, and psychotherapists say in gestalt work. well, it's completely different there. there is precisely a collision with one's fear of experiencing his understanding. here is his irrationality collision with him. well, as if face to face experiences, again, he retreats. these are the things of presentation. that is, for many years i was convinced that it was right, but suppose you drink 100 g before the flight and pay yourself off here, you know, well, from the point of view, as a specialist, of course, i can’t advise this, because the altitude is hypoxia stress. that is, you are already tense here.

even the amount of alcohol you are accustomed to, and well, as if understanding how you experience taking this kind of alcohol there in such a volume there at a height can give out a slightly different unexpected reaction. not the fact that it will be a relaxation of enjoying the flight. tell me from the point of view of a psychologist, is it easy to determine among the huge number of passengers among 100-150-200 people who are afraid of flying, who are not, because you will agree that the worst thing that can be is a panic on board such can happen during turbulence. during some evolutions of the aircraft, unpredictable for the body. he can suddenly give an explosive reaction and provoke the others to it; you need to determine who is afraid of flying, then no. it's easy, they say. well , here, probably, only those external signs, like tension holding on to the armrests. compressed poses such a look, she is directly

glazing at one point, passengers often approach flight attendants. i'm here for the time when i had some opportunity to orient myself, well, because that's what can rub? i also do this, some requests, they directly carry out exactly this, they say it fits and they say you know. i 'm afraid, i'm afraid i'm going to have a panic attack. i have never had this. so i did n’t sleep well right here and here and i’m very worried, i’m worried this happens and well, it’s just that the flight attendant has this in mind from the point of view of a psychiatrist or from the point of view of a person for people, hypnosis, or at least a trained person, can at least be predicted from his point of view. how to extinguish this reaction, or maybe not give it away. let's, you know, let's break down the concept there is the concept of panic, and there is the concept of a panic attack, a panic attack is experienced subjectively and individually, so i felt that i was sweating paler. i'm dizzy. i 'm afraid i'll vomit there. my breath was

choking or breathing there, in general it’s hard to fear this sudden death, and so on and so forth, this does not infect a person. that's the person you need to approach the flight attendant. in general, as i understand it in different companies. this is done to varying degrees, but as part of human factors training, they such preparation is given, that is, from a warm cup of tea to a blanket, to, well , warm up, this is some kind of feeling of security, to directly working specifically with a panic attack. i can’t tell you to what extent they master these things, but techniques, of course, exist for earthing, that is, to start talking with a person. feel your hands. feel your legs won't. now it's all in detail. yes, there to even out breathing. it doesn’t even matter how many directly clear breathing techniques make sense there, not even in this. the main thing is that he hears. what is he doing? as he breathes and began to breathe, that is, deep, yes, the contact is to speak here, to pronounce it all to return him so that he begins to feel his body. well, basically the physicality techniques of the flight attendants are preparing for this. that is,

airlines do this at the level of flight attendant training. they have theoretical and practical training on the human factor. them. medicine is given there, medicine is given there. see this. uh, try to say the risks are possible. well i'm in this the topic was not explored. i know that from india, for god's sake, i will interrupt, we will touch on this topic with people who have professional skills. eh, yes, yes, security services, but i remembered that a person is afraid of what he does not know solely for the reason that in many airlines of the world. there is a monitor in front of the standing chair. the fpv camera works, and during takeoff, during landing, during some evolutions, the human brain is arranged this way. i see what's happening. i'm all set for it and i'm less degree. well, to put it mildly, in quotation marks,

my body was frightened to a lesser extent. suddenly suddenly finds himself in a strange unusual situation, because i already psychologically i suddenly saw what was about to happen. if it were clear on this fpv camera that evolution would now take place. there, let's say 30° to the right or 15° to the left. if it would be a second, suddenly they would show me already in the picture, just the nose sank into the plane. and now i'm already ready for this, and already even people who are afraid to fly. i think in a lesser degree will worry about it, i'm wrong. but here for me as for diagnostics, of course there is. this is the moment that people with a predominance of different types of reactions perceive this kind of information differently. so here is this question about the volume of this information and how much it calms them down or vice versa raises a number of questions that follow

some information, about which they do not understand, so here mm definitely, it's probably hard to say, here but for most even psychotherapists advise and before the flight, find out as much as possible, and the company some feedback from passengers. secondly, take a lot on yourself. i mean, let's say some. well, they didn’t give something, now they are trying to give out some opportunities for watching a movie on board. here our brain rarely concentrates. maybe in parallel on two tasks, so i became interested in the plot, the fear of doing something receded. for me, for example, flights. eh, i love to fly. here. well, there is probably just sit and think hard. possible outcomes, probably, and i probably could get scared, my friend is a laptop. i always take some work with me. here in that volume, and there are chic working conditions and a table and chair, comfortable. from this it follows that the amount of other information that distracts unconditionally. yes yes even when there are panic attacks, the main point there is to

make contact with the person that he heard you began to react to your words and began to give some kind of response. now this is coming back. e, distract yes distract from what scares him, including getting him out of the main thing is to remove the state from the state. by the way, we raised the issue of diluting a panic attack and panic. that's about a panic attack. we talked about such a sudden, effective state of anxiety. that's what a person usually fears in a panic attack. well, this is the fear of sudden death, and panic is already hmm a term from social psychology. it's like the reaction of the crowd this is one something. in space there, let's say, well, he had some doubts. it seemed to us that something else was happening on the plane picked up. well, there, in the middle of the plane, they didn’t really figure it out, but they also got excited and began to say something. children from these conversations, flight attendants began to cry. we ran around the cabin more actively, so that those who are most excited there would be approached somehow to calm them down. and now it's all picked up, picked up by this reaction of the crowd. this is

panic, not panic like that, but panic. well , honestly, i can say, how many have not flown, i really have not seen this. it's like a social mechanism. tell me at all. uh, a lot of people are outraged, and rightly so, by the way, or many it still worries the children on board. especially small, yes the behavior of children on board. well, what do you say? here, again, i take responsibility for myself, as psychotherapists say, that is, try to set myself up for a flight and keep myself busy with some kind of business, in order to, as it were, as much as possible abstract from possible, so to speak, unpleasant moments, but from the point of view of um professions, so you probably need to somehow distract the children, too. alexander needs to provide some toys, some entertainment items on board, so that somehow the children. e busy with something, of course, and, by the way, the first pilot is responsible for the child on board. if, for example, let's say the parents are not with him, but if the parents of the pilot are responsible, well, in general there is such a thing. yes , if, for example, one child is sent on a

flight, well, such a need, parents can not fly with him, then up to, in my opinion , the age of majority or up to 16 years old here. unfortunately, i can't say for sure right now. here he is, under the responsibility of the first pilot, flying the first pilot of his duties. well understandably, naturally through flight attendants and naturally, as if not in personal contact. no , i would be the responsibility of the ship's commander always absolutely and 100% on board until the toughest decisions are made, but probably a molyava that flies alone without parents. it 's still a matter of age. this, of course, i think, but in general it is the responsibility of the parents. naturally, as if, well, parents should somehow be able to give in to contact with their own child. wait, i'm going to ask you a question that has nothing to do with you personally. of course it doesn't. but here we are passengers with you. yes, we both love to fly. we are food passengers on board. it's also distracting, though, of course, it means, uh,

this food should be, well, the quality is understandable, but it should be probable. so varied and in some ways different from earthly nutrition, so that my interest in this was, thereby distracting from my phobia from my fears of flying, but somehow i switch, otherwise look what's interesting. oh look on board, what an interesting thing. well, including, but generally considered physiologically, the body begins to deal with this work, that is, the reception of processing. now that's a distraction. uh, at least reducing the concentration on his fear. after all, what i’m talking about is gaining a mass it would seem that little things that will distract from what we are talking about packaging even food, the mold itself is food, newspapers, magazines. camera in front. which broadcasts, let's say, evolution or, let's say,

in general, some flight parameters all together and will lead to, or should lead to , god forbid, will not cause this panic on board, will bring down the tension initially and will lead to the very setting that everyone should set initially. i'm not flying . i came to enjoy. after all, this is something that is lacking on earth, and as soon as i look out the window i see something that i will never see in alignment. so, on the one hand, on the other hand. here's from my experience. here someone loves to fly, right now he loves to fly, and someone flies, well, by necessity without panic, without panic attacks, without any rational behavior on board or inadequate, well, the pleasure does not work. here is an example of my three children if if this time, the eldest son, the first flight at the age of 9, gave such a panicky reaction the day before, his mother will definitely go to him. we will break. i

'm afraid to fly. let's not go, i say, let's say, okay? take it away, you understand? let's make a deal there. we board the plane. we sit down in a chair. if you really feel like you can't. you and i are returning to the airport building. all dad will fly to egypt as we planned to leave. well, i think, here and now he is climbing aboard, of course, all in a ball of compressed nine years he was. we go into the cabin. he somehow placed. that's all there is tension. well, i waited until there is very little time left, i say, we will go out at night or else i say the engines will already start. we need to make a decision. here. well, i see, somehow he is the same. well, i don't think it will. here the proposal to leave was not followed by a return flight, already in pleasure, was already wandering around the cabin. everything is there. here's what you could look at everything, take a walk, try the middle daughter before the age of 18 put it off. she is such a trash with us, here, up to 18 years old, the floor. only because it was very necessary right here on the plane came straight into tears in her eyes. out of fear, then she commented on what she says, i just calm down, suddenly he announced, what speed what height is the first

pilot me again, this return to reality, well, there was no panic attack. just here is a normal reasonable voltage. first experience situation. indeed, as if non-standard in general, uh, a feeling of anxiety and fear is normal, a guardian reaction of a person. this must be understood as normal fear in the normal, as if the volume of the formed feeling of anxiety is normal reaction. this is a protective reaction of the body. so i'm not protected. i'm at a height, it's normal to be afraid of another step and you'll break it. something natural. so, any quality of it can be sort of, well, as we psychologists do it, but decomposed, well, at least on a three-point scale, the deficient amount in this quality is the norm and is already hypertrophied. well, as always, it’s good in the golden mean, that is, any quality must be formed, developed, so that a person can use it, how to ask one’s socialization adaptations, etc. underdeveloped. here's a reasonable risk. this is where i live for the adrenaline. i'm here for vivid impressions. eh, fearless. this

person is not for me. this is about not quite awareness about immaturity, it is possible about some kind of infantilism, mentally, and so on. here is the fearless man. eh, in general, this is the concept itself, but i don’t really like a brave person, that is, understanding the possible risks of taking responsibility, understanding what could be, what could be the outcome of certain consequences, this is one thing. well, it is clear that the hypertrophied level anxiety. it's here down to the free, floating anxiety. that is, again, irrational about nothing justified. it's just scary for the possibility that something bad might happen, that is, it's scary from nothing. specifically, it's scary, of course, such people. this is the biggest risk i would take at all. probably you will agree with me, that is, it is obvious. i forbade at the legislative level it is necessary to stop writing about the terrible. the number of publications about where what happened in the air where is who crashed with whom else the rest is unimaginable nothing like it has ever happened. if you

start writing today. how many car accidents and disasters occur on the roads of the country, then people will simply stop driving, because it will simply be scary. here i recently held for students of the faculty of extreme psychology. there was a master class and we gave statistics. just think about 2000 years 10 years, and such figures lead to eight thousand dead 300 episodes. air accidents. here is a plane crash such a household concept such as there is no level. here are the accidents. naturally, the growth of eight thousand dead means dead. and if we take the twenty- first year, just 21 years with statistics under an accident of 133,000 accidents and 15,000 deaths, can you imagine, there are 10 years and 8,000, and here 1 year, but the author moves it somehow more , well, you understand, it connected to

the surface of the earth. why does the spanish attacks display? feel your legs first , feel your back. feel your hands grounding. this is the normal state of a person. he walks the earth. he is not a bird, he does not fly, he walks, therefore someone here needs this break. this is the desire to tear off something traditional , some kind of superior technique there, aerodynamics dermatism, in the end, but someone doesn’t need it at all. here and here they are, well, either they fall down all the fabic experiences, or they just do it with maximum tension within the framework, as it were, of the norm yes, there without manifestations of any such extreme e manifestations. here, but you don’t get pleasure from it, but i say it again, this injection will come, i agree with one of the factors, in general, a phobia arises, this is either a personally negative experience, or in the media familiarization with some kind of here because the disaster describes it, of

course, here. well, for the ultimate somehow everything is tragic. well, in general, go deep, therefore, yes, redundant information. she is here, of course. let's say it contributes to the development , thank you very much, the conversation is wonderful, i'm just warning you and our viewers that we, of course, will continue this conversation. we will delve into the psychology of the work of pilots. that there are those who sit in the cockpit. uh, flight attendant psychology and psychology. especially the passengers. uh, because as you correctly noted, the panic on board is worse. no, nothing. it is necessary to do everything possible to avoid it you huge. thanks see you. i hope our conversation you, not how i did not strain. it was interesting for me to talk with you at our guests. eh yuliya slovinskaya was a psychologist. all the best. see you soon.

my name is sergey and i am a psychologist. tatyana krasnovskaya family psychologist polina tell me what is your request? my name is polina and i have a request like this. i am a mother of three children. i am now expecting my fourth child. but when i was pregnant, i had a wild fear, and it appeared, both physically

and psychologically, it consists of two directions. first. i am physically very scared to give birth, everything is terrible. i'm afraid, as if i'll hit a hitch, this is the first fear, and the second psychological one is very scary for me. give birth again to such an extent that the first straight even a few weeks i wandered even doubts. uh, should i give birth at all or should i not even give birth is that the pregnancy can be terminated. well, that's when let's thought appeared. you've already been pregnant, you can't be half pregnant. at what point is there something? maybe i ca n’t say so, only for the simple reason that it was, probably, i didn’t quite notice it in myself initially, as a mother , after all, because, well, for me it’s a thought. well, i wanted a baby and how can there be a thought. i didn't want to very simply, because this is the

ambivalence that is common to everyone of us, what you are afraid of is not there, and you don’t doubt it when you yourself came to this, that is, to yourself, as a woman it’s hard for you to admit even when you are a mother, and if you admit that you are becoming what a bad woman . this moment right exactly when it happened yes, just discussed it with your can. yeah well we talked, why is that so your first common child with him this will be the first common child fourth pregnancy three of your children from another marriage or other marriages. our task is to listen to you by asking some clarifying questions, and after that to some extent exacerbate the very situation that you will need to go through here in the course of our work.

how important it is for you to have a child in common with this man, there has always been an understanding that i want many children. that is, for me it is in general. i was ready for this from the beginning, but a plus. well, of course, the creation of a new family. it for me it meant a joint child, but he and a man, he does not have children, of course, of course, any men who are women. i want a child with her you wanted five children yes, i remember once there was some idea that you should have five parents. we also planned five or children, it's always somehow. how about five plus or minus? yes? uh huh, but anyway? why such an idea of ​​a large family? and the question came into your mind in general. i never thought about it. do not you worry. you answer because you would answer. if there was no one here, somehow a big family, i have a small family,

but i myself have one parent 17. i have one older brother. and that's it. that is, we do not have a lot of childhood in the family. well, for some reason, here i am, including my brother, by the way, for some reason, we , and how many children does your brother have? if i assume it's not a competition, i'm just guessing. no, we have a very good relationship. i mean the competition may not necessarily be between enemies. what's the difference between you and your brother? formed with your brother. as you grew up, he helped defended, on the contrary, rubbed to a certain age. well tell a story together with your brother was gone. he lived with his dad. i lived with my mother, and my brother lived with my father, they made such a decision during the divorce. well, at that moment they made yes the best decision themselves. yes

, when problems with my mother started, naturally, i wanted to live with my dad, because, firstly, dad lived much better financially than they lived. mommy and me. well, as if one in any case was difficult. i realized that my mother had problems with alcohol. yes, they were how serious it was seriously was with money at that time, they rested, thanks, of course, i also wanted to live like that. yes, and it is unlikely that the child would have escaped, simply, why did they treat him so unfairly? the decision could hardly be somehow convinced that it was necessary there, it was easier, it was better not to discuss it. i understand this, that's why i say when you were left alone with yourself. and as if watching through the glass, how your father and your brother live, and you were in circumstances that they did not really

want to be then. how do you think. you know, i’m probably so strong. it was bad for me in that childhood that i generally have half a blocked half, in general , it’s just like all this memory is gone, that is, it feels like i just didn’t live by what -some periods of life. yes, i generally know that i was set up as positively as possible and i was always waiting for my dad and i really wanted him to come to me. i had one single thought that we, well just like meeting dad. i wish from waiting even waiting i won't yes i didn't i didn't have. no, probably from waiting to waiting, because basically, i only had the expectation of a meeting, they were very rare and , accordingly, but i didn’t analyze. who is with whom, where does he live, where does he live. i just wanted people to come to me. it's a matter of emotion. if you now try to move yourself into the consciousness of that very girl who

wants to be with her dad, but there is a brother, and she has to wait and has to somehow find it is to count on the fact that this meeting will take place. that's how the girl could feel. well, i felt that there was nothing concrete from brother at all. i felt only constantly. well, i want to see my dad. at that time, i didn’t feel any pain at all, because i stood behind the wall, roughly speaking, behind my dad on the wall as a hero, and he was right about everything with me, and even that he didn’t come. i also knew he was doing the right thing. that is, you somehow explained it to yourself, of course, your reunion with dad. oh, my husband and i had problems, we went to family psychotherapy, and that is, the psychologist highlighted to me the question of what, well, that is, with dad, actually not worked out and advised me to come and

sit straight with dad and directly, directly , say nothing to me enough. and what i would like to see from my dad directly. here you are , i want to sit on my knee, take it, sit well, that is, she explained to me how to behave, i took it and came. now she said that i want a boob on your knee. you got me not there held and want to kiss you. i want you to tell me that you love me. i walked in the mood, and i directly told him everything and he was touched and explained to me that he was a man and it was hard for him. hmm that he loves. well , he can't talk about it, and he also has some internal problems of his own, and we talked . hmm, we cried and hugged. i've been on my knees ever since. we became very close with my dad. it was a very brave act on sasha's part. yes, a lot has changed in my life since then. tell us about your children. what age? i have a son will be 11. here is january 10 practically a daughter, five and a boy 3 years younger, and you are now in your

third marriage. and now the fourth marriage. well, i can not count the first marriage. there, it's a bug of youth 3 months old. could you tell us a little more about your marriages. the first time i got married. just hmm, almost on a bet, it happened. uh-huh were on a bachelorette party. well, yes, you do not get married, get married. come on, yes, how old were you 20. well, i would like to dress just stupidity from the word did not even have any relationship with the family and understanding. just met fun, fell in love met. let's get married. come on here, just such a spontaneous decision, a spontaneous decision, what does he have, what do i have? i think we were both so clueless that we didn't even realize. how much money do parents invest? and in general to think that we are creating and we also parted ways. after what time was the second marriage, and i almost immediately. well, not practically, there, maybe two or three months, and i met a guy, and we started dating and accepted him. well, there, of course,

everything was serious, where we weighed the decision to live, the parents of the child. and now we have a child. how long did it take to express? so about five years, we lived approximately. listen, she never counted in her life. well , for example, yes, the child was 5 years old when they parted practically, yes, she quickly became pregnant, then you divorced, we divorced, dad communicates with the child. yes , next marriage. how long do you know? was he practical? well, that is, the relationship would be almost immediately, and i fell in love very quickly. for the first time in my life that's how straight shelonitelno and marriage was. well, the marriage wasn't fast after 7 months of dating. pray in about eight. i really wanted a daughter for a long time, and in a previous marriage we were not ready to give birth to a child, and we did not have housing for your child. we were not

ready to give birth. so far, for certain reasons , they wanted to finance it first, that is, to buy an apartment, and then have children. here you count. i really dreamed of a daughter, i really wanted from this daughter. and here, just the man also wanted to visit the daughter of the settlement, what to do with a child they gave birth to a child. i gave birth to a daughter, and in the same marriage they gave birth to a third child, and then we were born again, we immediately developed a relationship. he accepted your first child, as if there were no conflicts. well, how did you take it? well, probably, well, a man does not have to accept children, how to say, and your eldest son is still he is quite old. well, yes, when you gave birth, daughter, how did he react? he is her, that is, he is well, when she was born, he was very happy happy. well, yes, he is here, thank god it turned out that they are like my brother and i very good warm relationship fine, then a boy was born, his brother. he, too, was

accepted. they are friends. they are even a daughter with a younger one, who are friends with each other. divorce. through the court undertook to delay the maximum divorce of the second two children. that is, it was, by the way, for me it has always been a mystery. so it was possible. that is, i left you not because of the reasons because of which, in general, i lived poorly. i was walking when i saw a couple of people, uh, performing. well, that is, i came to the event, there were a couple of business events where a husband and wife and do business together. they were asked how it is to conduct a joint business. usually they say husband and wife, if together, then there is discord and there is a scandal against this background, and she

said the girl alina well, you know, with whom should he do business, if not with me, but who can he trust in this life so how can you trust me? these words just hit me in the head. i got down and got into the car. i sat and just realized that i don't want to be married anymore. why a man? i don't trust this man words are nowhere. and let's look objectively at an adult and i still have one life for me. eh, really no idea. how many marriages should there be. i'm not at all to any of these all the principles, i never had any shame there, because there, you know, as many say, well, a lot of marriages. it somehow for me i have no complexes. you are there. something i have one life. i'd rather live happily ever after. i'd rather be married 10 times, i 'll be good now, and the next marriage. how long did it take for me to have this the most difficult period in my life for everyone in

my life and we just met. with my current husband, polina, can i ask you, as you are a mother with three children, and if you divorce these children, you need to support them. you are the only responsible adult. how did you cope with this, and what other options do i want to say, i do business consulting, business strategies, creative. uh-huh well, that is, you provide yourself with income depends on, roughly speaking, how much you work. today your family looks like. how do you all live together five of us with children, he had some kind of relationship with the children, they developed a relationship with him. and then they got pregnant 4 months ago, it turns out, yes, three three is good. now tell me, then, what is the difference between this pregnancy and all the previous ones.

well, what else. what's the difference, except for the fear of pregnancy. all previous pregnancies were easy for you, well, the first pregnancy. the next two pregnancies i had were difficult, very difficult - what does that mean? well, physical condition. i had a bad need for everything, climbed it from everywhere, i have sores and a back and well, a lot of heart and pressure, that is, i constantly have it and i had a lot of stress and morally it was very difficult for me, because my husband and i had a new big one. we were constantly quarreling , moving apart, moving in, moving out, moving in, well, on a scale of 1 to 10, like, uh, how difficult the last pregnancies were.

psychological in your opinion, according to your ten points, how much does it happen? you know, i would probably turn back time. yes, everything would be done differently. in my life besides my attitude, i would probably have allocated the time of pregnancy more to their personal relationships. that's right, that is, then your husband, about whom we are now talking about the past, and he, accordingly, took a lot of attention from you. so scandals are based on some kind of conflicts, but problems and you have directed a lot of attention there, this has been practically for nine months. i do not remember any especially strong some pleasant moments exactly. that's how motherhood is now, well that's exactly pregnancy. yes, when the tummy somehow

grows here all these moments. i basically have in my memory, basically, thresh some situations. yes, and naturally. hmm. i guess i don't feel any guilt here, because , well, at that moment, i could only behave the way i could in a different way. i could have led in a different way, but nevertheless, all the same, that is, i smoked in one pregnancy the entire pregnancy. that's right all 9 months. and packs of cigarettes per pack day, 34, look. after all, there is a dream about five children of three. you have already given birth enough. successfully, then what's with- it seems to me, here we talked to you. yes, what i think is the fear of being again. uh, in a situation where everything is on me. although i have now. well, a totally different person. he is very responsible himself. he is such he

is by nature such in life in general everywhere. i think that i am afraid of a recurrence in any case of the situation plus, and i have all two pregnancies. they are so well and pregnancy and after childbirth i had to. a lot of things to do alone, that is, everything was on me a lot of responsibility, and it's difficult. i'm on my own in fact, no one knows this, because i'm a person since childhood, yes, i'm used to not telling anyone about what my mother drinks . nothing at all. no. well, after all, everyone knew how such questions were for this, of course. you didn't talk about it. but it is unlikely that you came to school and complained that you had nothing to eat. well, no, of course it wasn't. i mean , this factor is not here. you know which one i played. and me, of course, people who are not very close. yes, some neighbors there spoke in general, firstly, very studied poorly. and not because i

did not understand something. i had a principle. i don't want i won't i won't you don't like to have the story of me on it interesting. i will not read it, they got up. i just didn't want to, i want to go to school, i don't want to go, and in general i want to eat. i want with him. it was impossible for me to force something and always prophesied, of course, hard on fate. well , to raise such a child, and i was very principled, that is, such that well. let's see if i have this principle, it has always played in me, it will prove it to everyone it is important to say in life it has always been important to me that it is you who will come to me later, come to work, line up. that is, i came from childhood. it’s like my mother there, she says, since the age of three. i was already straight i was sure that i would be the whole director took your first three, and pregnancy and three grandchildren. well, the grandchildren themselves are normal pregnancy marriages are not very you could be weak next. i'm with dad no with dad you see,

i had a very important thing for me. it's me. i realized this after death. it was very important for me to deserve it. i thought that i should earn his love through success. i realized this after my death, that my success, most of my success was due to the fact that i wanted him to be proud of her. my father, your such a successful career, of course, is based on this, that is, i was expelled from school in the eleventh grade, and i do not have a certificate and, accordingly, without certificates, they do not take me to the institute. and it wasn't a problem for me. ugh better. well, to be a professional expert, and i was very motivated to tell, so that dad can see, we did not communicate then it was close with dad and it seemed to me that, well, roughly speaking, my success, because we, like, kind of, dad would be proud, but i never realized it. i realized this after my death, that now my race was gone, when

my dad died, my race ceased to be, then i realized about i still have a fantasy inside me that this is a race not only with the world, not only there, i i don't know in business, but this race is exactly the same with my brother. and i did n’t just ask it like that, that’s why i want to show you one simple and such. it seemed the idea that maybe just the death of your father, as if devalued the birth of the next child, because he will not see it, because he will not support it. if, as you said, everything will fall on you again and a lot in general, in principle, is imposed on him in terms of expectations and this very emotional help, at least. he was not an emotional man and material possible some kind of physical support after all. i am asking you about this. you yourself said the word race several times, and now one of the elements that makes today's pregnancy different from previous ones is the absence of your father in your life.

to be honest, i didn't know. i know you don't know no doubt about it. i say it's my fantasy. i offer it to you with me now. well, to share, or to reject, too, perhaps the fear of giving birth is pain. i'm so afraid of pain insanely wildly, and i can't even imagine how i'm going to explain this to me that give me back. i'm afraid, i was terribly sick. here, in the sense there was pain, but at the same time you can use you said that you have such a very strong character, but it’s hard to say a difficult character, and what is the severity of your character in your relationships with men with people around you? how do you show this heaviness? it seems to me that a person is selfishly expressed in what way? i only do what i want. i don't want to, it's just impossible to force and that's it. i

only do what i want how your men react. well, he is also a grown-up boy, he also understood. well, that is, we we got to know each other, i initially introduced myself. naturally, that is, for me, the last marriage showed that you need to initially be honest and open to each other so that later there will be no surprises. actually, to be honest, this person is a tough person. i am a tough person. well, direct i am a very direct person and , accordingly, in this way you build relationships there is no relationship. i am not a tough person. you just said something else, pauline, you said, i honestly speak openly, it somehow fits in you. see how the relationship. i believe that people when? well then there are getting acquainted, and well, in general, that is, it's not like we sat down so listen to my friend. i'm not going to do this. this also happens,

agree. well, maybe it happens, and i'm not . i mean in general. we did communicate. i talked about myself. i mean, you already said. i said that i really like housekeeping. i'd rather work for three, but i'll never wash, i don't like to clean. i this work or lazy such all and that is. well, this is all i kind of told not with a purpose, there. well, we didn't plan at the time. i say relationship. well, we just told each other about ourselves , and i, probably, how much i want them to not change me, and i'm the person they change. well, it really seems to you that you, with such directness and rigidity, don’t give a person signals that he should change and should adapt 20 times. no need to adapt to me, then he will leave. why live with you if you don't get along in this sense, i don't have very plans. i'm interested in your behavior from the point of view. that's what as soon as we touch some part where you

you need to be weak, yes, where you will need to say something that can destroy your image that you have created. you dodge this answer right away, like ears in a frying pan. and you say that you are an honest person. no, i know how i used to be strong. why do you need this image now, when you communicate with two specialists. do you need him? i understand that you are used to, you came from barnaul pulled us out conditionally speaking, now i am sitting talking to you, and you are trying to impress me. it is very interesting to me impression. i say how i feel, no, you're lying. you say what you think, i did not even catch you on this soon. see. i say, as soon as i try to show you some element, where your image is destroyed and the emotion of feeling can appear. it's not a question, what do you agree with? i’m asking you a simple question, what did the girl feel when she looked at the fact that dad chose a brother, and not pick her up, not a little three-year-old girl,

but he said hello in a nine-year-old buddy, because it was so convenient for him. or maybe because he loved him more. i don't know what the three-year-old girl was thinking at that moment. i ask what she felt and you tell me, no, i had a great relationship with my brother and with that they don't know what she felt like a girl. i don't remember. i even suggest that you transfer your consciousness there to any other girl. here is a three-year-old child, and she wants to be with her father, and they leave her with her mother, and her mother, who does not love her, and her mother, who does not love her. what could be? it's not important for me to see, because you came here to deal with fear, fear is a feeling. and you give such you know everything is written. and when we talk about the fact that i have a problem that i never had any questions at all, and here you even tell me well, how can i say it. it does not respond in pain, you understand, because you are very used to living in this image. and this is the working mechanism. he really helps you a lot. and this is an effective model, but now sergey suggests that you try

to remove this image and go. right there in the very depths of self-vulnerability, because a small child at 3 years old, a woman with three children cannot feel anything. you see, there is someone else out there who is afraid, and we need to find someone else who is afraid, otherwise you can't deal with it. just your psyche. understandably accustomed to defend themselves to be corrected. and, of course, it displaces some moments, some protective mechanisms work, but now you need to get there in order to find this baby there, to find this quivering woman inside such people, you know, i don’t have some inside. if you say somewhere, i feel a response and understand that yes, i somewhere there the experience hurts, then here i have it. well, here. i’m saying, i only had other experiences at that time that made me feel sick. i wanted, firstly, initially i always had the idea of ​​figs that mom and dad should sit down. this is a thought. you really wanted to try them on somehow to fasten them. and perhaps you even took on

this role. and now the ass left, that is, you did not succeed once again, yeah. it was at this moment that little polina felt no, but of course, you know no to me. i i probably still suppressed it in myself, rather, because emotions, because i don’t tell me anything, what i feel, yes, i don’t feel anything, i kind of went on to play with my toys and wait for my father’s red phrase. i seemed to be jamming, i'll ask a simple question, as if i was jamming that pain, of course, excellent already good. you know, i didn’t like it since i was three years old. mm, the role of a girl who, in general, does not have a father and there are such people. not all people are tactful, they don’t even talk to adults and children, and here i am i remember there was a neighbor who said oh, oh, dad doesn’t need it there either. here is dad later with another family. here. well, do you love your dad? well , that is, such tactless people and no. yes

, they learned to defend themselves from them at that moment. i probably did not realize the amount more simply said that well, no. i love him. he my mom says at that moment you have already learned how to jam. you have already learned. it is your mechanism that you have learned to handle. it's just that it's affecting your life right now. yes, i didn't like it either. this is the role of the whole child without a father. and in general, you know, it’s not a role, not a child without a father, probably the role of an unfortunate girl who tried to make everything simple out of me, who didn’t hit, without a father is a child. it's poor that the unfortunate one grows up as a strong example there, i don't know perfectly which everything is fine. yes? so what if there is no dad, dad can't, i'm always the truth in sailing in space does not pay or not. well, i begged my mom not to file for child support. as a small child on your knees. i didn't want dad. well, that is, somehow way to scold them among themselves, so that god forbid these conflicts between them were. i

was afraid that suddenly he would not come at all , damn it, the most terrible picture . draw that scares you in these births and the birth of a child. that's when you have scary thoughts. uh, negative thoughts, when the most terrible thoughts appear here are 7-8-9 months. that's heavy when the stomach that's all you can't do it. do not lie down do not get up these hard. and now it's still hot and physically hard. i also had health issues . and my back hurt. and me i had to carry a child with a belly of another child, and i have it right here, it seems to me on portcork. yes. this is where fear is captured. even when i speak, i even shrink, physically i have shoulders. what can you do to avoid those uh, health situations with your body. now in advance i would ask to go in for the pool. that is, now i can’t until the

first screening. well, that is, they said it needs to be done, and after that. that is, i have a gym membership. i went. i was preparing that my house as a whole went in for sports, so that you prepared, psychologically psychologically unconditionally, look, but in this sense, it is important that you begin to set yourself up for the fact that pregnancy will come easily. after all, you now have an idea in your head that pregnancy is hard. and in general, there is proof of this, but you know how in this experience we will call it negative. yes, he actually shows you that you then made a huge mass of mistakes that you are now able not to repeat. and in this sense, it is very important that you take your own experience. ah, my previous two pregnancies, there the third i will not speak about the first. i have yes, they took it and directly took it apart, as if in parts, in order to see what you were doing in order to make it bad there. did you

make it bad there? that's what they did. you are what is possible, and you were not sure about this man? i'm talking about a bad husband. and maybe you lived in stress and you let that stress be you smoked there, yes, in one of these pregnancies. so i just want to recommend you, and dissect your experience and understand one simple thing, that's how bad. you know for sure, which means that you can make it good. if you know that there is a hole in the street, yes, it’s not necessary to fall into it every time, however, you can get around it at some point, not everyone gets around it the first time, but it ’s also not the first time in this sense, but- a. it seems to me that the most important now is that you are probably already doing this. yes, to experience your fears as closely and deeply emotionally as possible with your spouse, but at the same time, it is very important that you kept the focus not on why it is important for him to express, but for you to

just talk with him about why it is important for you the parents of the child came, while you were talking, because i have you know, if you look at him this fear, yes, uh, here we are , you understand this, i generally agree with this, which is an image for me. uh, the weakness of a woman in general. yes, and some problems. hmm. i never in my life have one of my relatives so that i cry, except for the death of my dad there at other times. i'm always fine. wonderful even. if it's difficult, i say, well, i 'm sorry. everything is solved. e, here the point is that now i have a man, he is strong, he is caring. he takes care of all my problems. he helps me with the children and takes me everywhere. and this is not my time to become weak damn, yes, this is not exactly my picture of life, where exactly i got used to it in novosibirsk drag. and here i don't need to be told. uh, when i asked you, what can you do by

referring to the experience of your release pregnancies. you said i would do things differently. here, it's just different. i would was very attentive to myself my attention my angle of attention would be turned to me. apparently this is the thing i'm afraid to relax and trust, go with the flow. not in the plan that i trust him, but here you can still see, i myself got so used to this image of a strong, not suffering, not crying. this is from early childhood. something understood, even getting a belt. i said, well, yes, even better, of course, as it were, well, and that's why i say, the most important thing, now it seems to me, the idea that we came up with is exactly what you need trust your husband and allow yourself to be weak around him. i know it's hard, because in your head there is an idea that weak people are not loved. and this is not true to be saved to close. you know how, you

can always return to this, but now you can try and try in a different way. where it's scary try where the proximity is vulnerable to you. i see this is the best. the main thing is that this is actually a challenge worse than being the way you are used to. i hope we somehow showed you some other angles, where to look, but in in general, and in general, of course, i bow to your courage that what you are doing, the fourth child, is cool. thank you for your story. thanks a lot. thanks for the help fairy tales, so we give birth initially. climbing the mountains is a dream of every

second inhabitant of the planet, when he sees snow-capped peaks, but people have been living there for hundreds of years, we go to visit the village of untsukul, dagestan, a mountainous metropolis almost 7,000 people of the population are engaged in animal husbandry and eat an old craft. doingasanov carver in his hands, any log turns into a work of art; cupronickel wire is driven into them; such a drawing remains and is called a notch. by this power they live, they make it to order, they sell everything else for life, they produce and grow it themselves, they can not go down from the mountains for years. quiet life keeps, frankly, calm. never liked it. this is the

bustle of the city, as long as there is work, the village lives once. from north ossetia, in the village , the upper passage was also in full swing with life; here below, there were mines, everyone went to work in the mine, and left here, uh, three houses in total, eight people live, have parted. now the village is more like an open-air museum . the ruins of ancient buildings, for example, it was once a greek church, then the club invited us here from childhood. here i rarely went down only for sugar or medicinal to the store on the table there was always all the mountain climate of strawberries. here i work with her here and cabbage how like a head of cabbage, like a head? and the taste, what kind of watering i do not need here. here the seedlings will take root, water everything. not necessary. this is love forever mountains, so they just don’t

let go in altai, for example, vyacheslav kolesnikov and his family are generally alone in the mountains without neighbors, the hereditary beekeeper always tried to climb higher in the mountains in the apiary of his grandfathers. then my parents were engaged in court there, i moved with them and now my children and grandchildren are here well in the yard. winter. they crawl out into the street basking in the sun and hung on tinsel not only in honor of the new year, they should be afraid, in winter and summer. do they sell cosmetics? of course, it’s beautiful, because on the street everything is covered with snow, all these christmas trees beautiful mountains all covered with light snow . a very picturesque road, perhaps that is why all our highlanders are so calm and happy when you wake up every day and see such

beauty and you don’t want to be sad. what a beautiful winter in kamchatka heaped so much snow. and if there is snow, a snowman will appear with eyes, berries, eyebrows, sticks, they also gave fish in their hands, who is it? this cat is a traditional symbol of kamchatka, the ethnic code in koryak means raven. our kutkh has red fish, red fish, also is considered the main symbol of kamchatka, we launch a flash mob. what will answer from murtia. sophia has many friends of the company, it is always more fun to sculpt, but the lump is larger than usual only when they painted it became clear a snowman on a motorcycle. she is a female for some reason, at the last moment they decided to change this. yes, well , it happened, therefore, we can introduce you to our motorcyclist in the kirov park and how will the southerners in anapa answer you there is no snow, the sun is

warm, university students got out and got snow. vicks and sand weighers we make people happy. cheer up we sing songs freeze call kaliningrad. they also have a lot of snow there. nikolai and elizaveta made bricklayers with branches. instead of hands, we got a couple in love, just like they symbolize our little family. this is kolya liza and the cat mia who was made of stones, what symbolizes the fortress of our family? and after all, it doesn’t matter who and from what to sculpt a snowman is just an excuse to meet and have fun with the whole family bananas, which i planted, in principle, if desired and the availability of free space can grow a whole alley of such bananas warm, but

short, but in the apartment of alexei rusanov and pineapples please him only with leaves and the apartment is not suitable and alex was about to get rid of it, when suddenly under the leaves he found flowers left in izhevnin’s apartment to get personally. we take the stamens and put the pollen on the pistil . and after that, envy is formed in us this year, the passion fruit brought 40 fruits. aleksey managed to surprise not only his family, but also his friends minus 20-25 average air temperature in altai in winter, but sergey letunovsky successfully grows citrus fruits here. cleaning colomandins this year managed to collect 250 pieces, lemons also

pleased this year, i took more than 30 lemons . it's from this little tree. basically, sergey breeds remontant varieties. throughout the year, they bloom and bear fruit to the gardener. the amateur managed to choose the right lighting for them, the mode of feeding and watering sergey believes that it is better to loosen the soil in winter so as not to overmoisten the roots. and this here, my pride is a pomelo weight, it reaches more than 600 g, washed abundantly bears fruit for the third year. sergey even had to create a special bookcase so that the heavy fruits would not break the branches of the typical berries of the perm territory - these are currants and lingonberries. and at carolina's houses, watermelons grow in special hammocks. carolina decided that the watermelons would grow. at her home, all year round immediately got down to business. the first watermelon grew only 300 g. with a very sweet trial and error method, carolina managed to ensure that now the average weight of winter watermelons is 2 kg.

personal record, while 4 kg. the secret is , after all, professional lamps without lamps . plants will grow vegetables for salads on a special rack under the lamps, but watermelons remain favorites. carolina gives them all her free time in the winter. in the perm territory clay evenings are long to ukraine on the shelf it is always summer.