this is also a pair sport, and i told a lot of partners that petya chernyshova once brought about. when he tried to be the best there and to nikita i very often i said this there is no couple, as scratching there is a couple, tits wrote there is no couple. chernyshov exists our lancer in 50 to 50. therefore, you must ride for a partner, we continue to create comfort so that the partner feels like a real champion. and this is a very important moment. it 's very difficult to teach. i know this myself too. and their work with their athletes. but as important in sports, fart for victory at the olympic games. it may or may not be a personality . yes, but it may not work as a personality. well, you can also be a coach. uh wait to be a talent coach wait for some good material and it will never come to you. it seems to me that somewhere you were unlucky, maybe in a sports career. yes , do not become an olympic champion, but you are very lucky. you are an athlete. we always have

the best dances and you are the most successful a modern russian coach, because yes, of course, i was lucky to some extent in the sense that, of course, well, working with people like, uh, navka mosquito, in blue, the son of clubfoot beaver nightingales, is a pleasure, because after all it’s on that moment were the leaders of our russian figure skating. and accordingly, all the same. we were very close to the world leaders in figure skating, but there was a very difficult moment when the test came. e, believer scott and charlie white and meryl davis, e. it was, of course, another planet. they ran away from us. so we were catching up with them all this time, and it seems to me that we caught up and then the french appeared. that is also a very extraordinary phenomenon in ice dancing. therefore, we had strong rivals, the more appreciated, the victory of the guys at some

point missed the championship. yes, when they arrived, there were tesses and charlie and meryl. why did you analyze? why did this happen and how can we catch up? well, i'm not exactly analyzing, i just think what it is hmm in waves, everything goes. here we will say that when zhenya was plushenko and lyosha yagudin it was something phenomenal, no one was close there, then russian figure skating for men singles fell into the pit, at the same time only vera slutskaya was there and, in general, everything else was japanese-american . but now women's single skating is a purely russian story. now it's more difficult in men's. here, but we are also starting, therefore, it seems to me that this is such an undulating history that needs to be systematically changed. i just think there must be

some kind of birth. super athletes who are on their own they will take this role, because i will explain that platov and usova were swindlers, and for me always usova zhulin. it was wow. that is, i always watched these programs, as something cosmic in general, different from everything else, and maybe that's why you lost then, because people weren't ready to perceive it. and now, many years later, the french appear. i actually draw parallels between your couple and with mine and with their or their couple, because for me this is the childish perception of my zhulin and the adult perception hitdaiquiron. it is approximately similar. hmm , only they may be more fortunate that people have become ready to look at such curly. yes , maybe, well, if i were to draw such a parallel , i never thought about it. i'm very pleased. thanks for telling you this . here, it seems to me, there is such a hmm chip chip from a certain aesthetics. well, i don’t

know where it came from or i, well, when i looked at myself, for example, in the mirror, when i was doing choreography, i didn’t have any data there much higher than 90 ° could not lift. but, if i saw that he had a twisted leg or a shoulder came out somewhere or something, i think what a freak i have to work. must have worked with it. in general, two by three by four hours, just about the mirrors at the machine, bringing oneself to this state. it was just hmm well, probably an inner sense of taste, but this should not be a systematic approach. i think that the athlete should not only listen to what the coach says, but also develop himself dancing there, if it is dancing absolutely right, but, uh, if you take, for example, hmm the same tanya roma or club-footed tit and very quickly grab exactly what i want. i say, well, this is ugly. and i try to explain something there, they grab it and immediately correct it. there are athletes for others, to whom you can just spend hours. they

don't take it off. that's why you're absolutely right after all, well, how to systematically educate maxim. uh, maradona or paul pogba is probably impossible. probably, after all, such people really should be born , they should appear, it is very important that they are trained from the age of 5-6 years correctly, so that they don’t go, which one is 5-6 years old and yes, i have a question. why if dancing, well visual i'm inside i understand that it is very difficult and but for the viewer it is not traumatic. no need to jump, no one throws. uh, very high partner. why do they still lead to single skating, since childhood they don’t give them to dancing on ice? like, for example, this is north america doing. well, because, firstly, it is a very big problem to find a partner and a partner. that's not all. eh, still remained in russia with an understanding that dances are already giving away

liquids. that is, when you have exhausted everything yourself in single skating, you can’t do anything anymore . it is clear that sore knees do not go jumping, you have to go dancing. this is, as they say, all funerals. here it is, and then in the judges a common story. yes, then the judge, then the technicians. here but nevertheless. mm, in america there is a slightly different approach and dancing is not considered something shameful, it is considered the same kind of sport, it is also olympic. probably. yes, you can cook. uh, and immediately dancers pay more attention to sliding, and what's the problem, for example, hmm dancing and bra- if you take single skating, if you teach a person to skate on low legs, how did you do it? what was dinka striving for? i’m dmitry and then the jump leaves because you overload your legs, and in the second minute you sit down, your legs are just stupid and you can no longer jump in a

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this moment was such that i mean, i ’m doing something right, because they laughed at me a lot about my artistry there or something else, and these words were a kind of praise. do you know who i would i took him to the dances, sorry for interrupting, i would have taken tronkov, i still took the lenses. this is my idol was easy, dmitriev would have done it easily. you need the right partner. just pick up. these are the people who elementary could. well, look what. uh, what charisma these people had. well, thank you lord, you didn't go into dancing. you have very good success in pair skating. god bless you. here but nevertheless, if you then switched to dancing, it's not a fact, you could become a double moment. i'm not sure that the lsr would came to dance with me. and then everything rolled under this bone this moment this moment you know that you are generally such a fan of show programs, and you are one of the initiators, if

they are mistaken, tournaments that or even the author. yeah well, some will take place in march. we started the program. yes, i would love to see it pass. i really wanted to, yes, yes, and in general, i emphasized the word correctly . i am from my childhood, when we rode with a smiley. we were two-time champions. tournament, kalinka which was invented by alexander vedenin royally heavenly in this year left. it was wonderful. it was for him, uh, a performance tournament. do what you want. that's what you want, roll the spectators it was packed in this tournament, the dancer can win, the single skater can win, the guys can win. the main thing is the artistry of jumping, nothing at all. that is. do you want to jump. if you want, don't jump. if you want, do a number so that people shed tears. do you want to make a number so that people laugh. uh, and there is no longer a person who sits a spectator,

or rather, a jury, they must evaluate. how is that from the point of view i liked it. and it seems to me that this may be very interesting in the sense that it is something else and it is real. well, it's just like a competition on indicators of a mutant. well, to be honest, i want to thank myself, probably, and from the first channel for this idea, because it 's really cool here. we will definitely do it. hopefully, now let's talk a little about motivation, because now is the time when parents, in principle, think. why take children to sports if we don't have it. the athletes we work with think, why should they come to training? yes, and we ourselves are coaches, too, often us. this thought visits. how are you. with this and your heavy athletes these asked a question. uh, i know it's hard. you asked a question. in general, to motivate athletes. in this current situation, it gets harder and harder and we all understand that i always had a goal.

this is the russian championship for which it is needed in order to get to the european championships and the world championships and, god forbid, the olympic games now this no, but there is no this just one year. while holding on, while, as it were, i find some words, first of all, for myself. that's because it's hard, honestly hard, and i loved to travel differently to the fifth of europe and the world and the olympic games, in general i liked to go abroad and lived in america for 13 years. now, of course, a lot has changed, a lot has changed, even if i'm watching some now american films. i don't believe. nothing if i used to admire these, there armageddons and others now. i just don't believe in anything. now i i understand that this is some kind of sheer falsehood and lies. that's because i have. well, such a position now er, i really do. uh, well, a fan of russia, i really think it was the first one

, when the decision was made to return from the usa no, it was not unequivocal. this decision was made because tanya was offered an interesting project. it was then called dancing with the stars. it was the first season. in general, i was absolutely shocked then, because i stayed in america for almost 6 months. she was leaving for moscow, i stayed there to train someone already and there was not much incentive here, i bang suggested that i also try to participate in this beard project. at that time, she was my favorite actress, but because the film the tamleny sun had just come out in general. i really liked her. like uh like an actress? i immediately got hooked on this idea. we all moved in with the cop along with our daughter. sasha to moscow and began to prepare for this project. sasha didn’t understand anything at all and says why he moved to this moscow where there is constantly snow

and traffic jams and cried right, literally cried three weeks, if we left our luxurious house with a lawn in america, where everything was fine, but there she went to school , nothing is clear here. here at first. when i saw all this glacial. well, here, these are the first steps that and i tried. we did it somewhere in the park of culture. on the rink , some of these. when i saw how these actors skate, then i think, but it's just a madhouse. it's only for him to put on a straitjacket for everyone else. i think this is a terrible failure. these were my thoughts. ilya, he is more such a person, uh, in all faith and well done. i. well, i'm extremely grateful for this. and when i later saw the first second program on the air, i realized that it was cool. it 's beautiful and shows the actors' acting and you don't notice that they don't skate well. it's all somehow you cover the camera,

put the right light correctly, the right music came right away. that's it, because i call it wisdom, because when i worked with two mentors in the ice age, when i was riding julian's cow. there was one who was ready to stuff the program. 1.000 elements that may not look like anything and it won't work out and there was a second wise mentor who told me, you just want six zero shut your mouth. listen and get six zero. and so it happened. this wisdom came in the same season. uh, probably, by the end of the first season, you start to understand that this project is not about the elements. this is a project about beautiful poses about a very bright acting story that everyone understands, so that everyone can understand it, it is necessary for people to sit down and just if you dance a number about love rejoiced along with you. if you dance drama, that at the end,

mothers could cry more about it. and so, when this year nikita, for example, came to this project and immediately began to surprise me there with some kind of folk songs. i see them breaking. just to death. that's 15 minutes rolled. i can see that he is doing all the wrong things. so then, when i told him that nikit ran the project in general and adds a lot of steps. very and so when in the ice age the children saw lyuba rubtsova, she was sophia katya. you see there i also saw a few girls and boys. uh, they're insanely artistic now. eteri has some kind of boy now, when about fedotov russia, he was also there. i remember that, and he's gorgeous, and he's gorgeous now. if they put programs on him, with a certain flair with a certain ice age flight, it will only get better, but here the chip is in the ice age. this story. for example, i did. uh, schindler's list, uh, or other clubbing, and we only took the beginning of the free program from there. when he takes her away from the wall, he takes her away from this one and at the end

shot. everything else was figure skating. well, plus the idea, which, well, in general, the convoy passed through the entire program, they remember this program and that was enough. the most important thing here is not to stuff the sports program with the ice age, there is simply no time for this. you skate yourself, set programs yourself and understand that you have only 20-30 seconds for this, maximum for all this choreography. all the rest of the time it is an element that must, of course, be beautifully connected. therefore, i think this huge difference exists between the ice age and real figure skating, but the ice age gave a colossal impetus, a colossal push. uh, in general, the development of figure skating in russia, i think, there is one more moment, and our country it is oversaturated with champions and we have a huge number of championships. and it's cool. well, all these champions have a chance to further develop themselves. yes, i think

the most important thing, perhaps, is this , after all, how? for example, there is the same roma kostomarov who how old yes can be a coach, we need to compete in championships in take out your athletes and we remain young due to this, but at the same time, how many guys are still skating, still delighting their fans and spectators. yes, this is happiness, keeps their families. this is a great happiness. and in general, i always said that, for example, sasha is easy. yes, he is an olympic champion, an amazing skier has found in you. lord , his tongue is hanging, he works as a commentator. well, no, they have demonstration performances. you've been running there all your life 50 km 30. uh, plowed like damn and when you finished with sports, in fact, everything you have is the only thing you need is a chance to realize yourself. this is a coach, or a commentator. this is the uniqueness of our sports, in addition to ice shows, in addition to television projects, plus we also cultural a little bit , i think, developed differently, how

did the ice age add that they began to invite him? and in theaters in the cinema and leshin, too, and uh. yes, i even managed to sing there with polina gagarina in the two stars project. that is, it gives you an invitation to the cinema. that's why it gives you, in principle, the development of an actor, in principle, and i communicate with such great artists. basically on ice. i mean in the ice age. well, if a person is smart, you can teach them a lot of things. deep, right? many will not say that we are, but i will say that many are very impressed by your statements. in the sports media that is, you often speak out very sharply, in what positions? what is this unwillingness to put up with what is happening courage. well, i often

blurt out, then i regret it, like, probably, all of us, but, for example, the case with camila valium. i just didn't shake. that is, i perfectly understood that learning to do quadruple jumps, as she does. what kind of doping can we talk about, but this is nonsense. so when i saw, in general, it was not directly a participant, how, in general, terry and camila were mocked by the media. this was just the beginning, when the girls could not calmly enter the rink, she was shaking. this is what they did before her personal competition. here. i just lost my nerves and had time. well since i'm already there perlo wrote a book for me. i mean, i wanted to speak up. i wanted to write something. it seemed like i was doing it right. that's when i wrote the letter. this is an open bahu, because i was just shaking at that moment. it was very pleasant for me that so many people in our country supported me

, supported my position, and we really need to talk about it, in general it seems that the failure began from the moment when vyacheslav fetisov was sitting in our vada, uh vyacheslav alexandrovich and we had everything fine. we agreed with everyone. we have to agree. in general, you know this, as in our sport. so in general, in politics it is necessary to agree, when vyacheslav ivanovich koloskov was sitting at the fifa football federation, we were treated very seriously. uh, vitaly georgievich smirnov. we were treated very seriously. now we have what we have now in this vase there are 12 canadians, uh, 12 americans and the british. and that we want him to be recognized as an athlete. they won't be with us anymore talk. well, as, in general, in general, and in all politics, so it seems to me that we need to understand more from the point of view. it

can't be, for example, we only have two technicians, who are now uh, in general, deprived of this russian in mind, so we will lose everything in general, but for those who just joined us. i remind you that we are talking, we will return with the honored coach of russia alexander zhulin. let's say kamila valieva and let's say the decision is to hit her if it is not favorable to us. and for your pair, because gold medals are also dependent, like guys. how do you feel about it? whatever thoughts, but we already, as they say, under this house sword a very long time since the olympic games, almost this year has already passed, yes, that’s why we’ll somehow get used to this situation, but their inner feeling does not change. it seems to me that the main thing is internal sensations. it 's like if you did everything right, you believe that you did the right thing, then you deserve it, and no one has it for you. absolutely right. and i like the position of our country and

the president and how we were all treated. we were all congratulated with gold medals, we were all given what they were supposed to be awarded, and prizes and so on. i believe that the position of the president and everyone and our country is absolutely correct, that is, our champions should be supported. here are the paralympic games about the great fantasies of the russian wonderful, they have been, of course, 16 years old. here is camellia , for example, at the age of 16 yes, survive. it's the same for life. well, nevertheless, she was there the wisdom that came to you in the first season. ice age. well, i kind of, i hope she gets the right ones first. i think camila herself is a very smart girl. it 's true, it seems to me that she is a very good person, also third. it seems to me that she , uh, he has a good trojan headquarters. they are great at helping with this. they have already helped and will continue to help. and i think that people like kamila valeeva will not be lost if we talk like that. it would just be

extremely embarrassing. and if, for example, she is deprived of her , for example, she is forbidden to train, respectively, for me this is a tragedy figure, because it was some kind of level app of figure skating, when a person appeared who was generally, well, like on this chan. in general, a different person. that is, just from another planet, a person who can do what seemed to us some kind of sanction of figure skating. yes, it reproduced everything and deprive this sport of this , and athletes also express this. so it's also bad for the whole. in america, it's bad for america too, isn't it? that's gone. the competition is gone. the star is gone. let's say the world star. but what else, to be honest, really struck me, that at this russian championship, which just recently ended in krasnoyarsk , she jumps this quadruple. so this is a sheepskin coat, that is, at such a height and about what kind of doping you can rub at all, if a person is here to force an american who has passed puberty, who has picked up a little there.

yes, at least three have turned, purely not one of them can quads, and the chapters in the program, when she makes an exit, her leg goes 180 °. this is it well, she was very much wanted in the ballet but she chose figure skating herself. i'm more than sure i do. she is ballet. it was an outstanding epic, there is no doping. but it seems to me that sport is more interesting, and yet i will remain with my opinion that the world has not yet seen their figure skaters, like kamila valieva, when this whole situation began to spin, we collided. with all this hate, and even the guys that we have been friends for many years. uh, in sports. uh, foreigners began to speak out. yes, foreigners have begun to speak out. now i am still reading. uh, it's true, there's half long forgotten and not realized after

speaking out, but nevertheless there is one. you have worked a lot with foreign couples. that is, you had and the french wrote, abuza, natalie in general is now the president of the federation of the spaniards of the turks. uh, there are cyprus even ukrainian guys. let's not forget ukraine, right? that is, how now are there any ratios ? some kind of feedback with the guys with the alper in the morning eh hmm wonderful the rest of the foreigners are all wonderful ukrainian couple, no they are very tough position regarding, all of us in general. now, i don't blame anyone. god will judge everything for them, well, i don’t want to delve into this topic, but nevertheless, many of my foreign colleagues with whom i

worked and coaches and athletes treat us wonderfully and say when we see each other. everyone is also tired of this situation. in general, i have some kind of prevailing opinion that starting with the pandemic, everything went down somewhere. that's how this pandemic started. that's how it all goes somewhere. here it rolls rolls. i sometimes wake up i say, lord, well, at least there will be one good day already. here, what's some good news. here, and then resort to the daughter. this , of course, is changing and not. and in general, i 'll tell you, we are happy people that we have loved families. that's because a beloved family is happiness, so love is a family - this is the most. the main thing is that in general, maybe, uh, in our coaching career. i know, most likely, this is the only thing i want to say thank you to the pandemic, because i

started writing on the phone from nothing to do. well , the truth is, there's nothing to do already, i didn't know, there was nothing to do to ride. all skating rinks are closed. here, i have already reviewed all the films mm. what to do? he continued to continue, then one of the smart ones told me. listen, well, it doesn’t bring much money and was upset for six months. i finished this business, in general, that's not because i'm so mercantile. well just. well, what i will write write. do you understand? well, then i think, no. well, in the end, someone told me again or my wife, well, you write that for yourself for the children. they will read it later. but he decided to continue and wrote wrote, here it's like it's been over a year. i don't regret the book anyway. she has three wives three skaters how is it? it's hard with colleagues. well, if i have all three figure skaters, then it’s

probably not hard. so, there is something to talk about. so, it means that there is some kind of homespun in this , however, so are all three dancers. and all three beauties. that's why. and why are children or maybe someone involved in figurines? no, they tried somehow. uh, and one daughter did not study well. and so katenka was also doing something somehow she didn’t particularly like. now she was at the performance and just says the first thing that i was told by an urgent raid. i want to be a figure skater, and she is almost 10 years old. i say it's not too late, katyusha, here i want it. i like it, so this is it. well, let's see, well, let's see, i also have a very similar story. i have angelica when people just ask her, and who do you want to become? she says she is a figure skater, but her parents there just

categorically do not want to take her to the skating rink in a completely different way. story. i wonder when grandmothers say please driver, but we we will not. well, yes, that's for some reason a strange moment that he does not have very many parents. here i am from among those who do not particularly want repetition. for some reason, i can’t understand, i want to eat parents who are. yes, i have. yes well, listen, i believe that it is possible to somehow open all these orbits. and i absolutely wouldn’t mind if my daughter were a wonderful lawyer or a singer , and i didn’t mind selling anything at home, because it seems to me that there are a lot of wonderful professions in the world and it’s not a fact, and if she came and said dad. i i want to be only a figure skater, and i would cast for her to stay with us was alexander zhulin, a wonderful father, writer,

honored master of sports, honored coach of russia and children are the ideological inspirer of the new figure skating tournament in russia thank you very much. thank you. my voice is like water flowing through the wires. you

answer and then i can, like all this. to reach the sun, the sky will leave, where you have not been, you will not return. catch up to the sun, we are starting our next podcastlab issue on channel one.

we have charming guests today girls, this is the singer mona hello project monokini now a singer mono is a singer who wrote a bunch of dance hits and not only the main one, of course, reaching for the sun, but i like the wind more thanks to the maximum. you're a lot of other uh uh very-much-much. yes, the wind, it’s just gorgeous too, by the way, until now , when some of these combined concerts of the nineties and two thousandths, you are right there, the audience just goes crazy. i

take pleasure reach for the sun, the wind, sing for can i answer for you. she gets off crazy in the hay. that's what is valuable for an artist. she 's like this all on stage, it's not. you showed it wrong. here's one on stage. here's how you showed it. these boys are her backup dancers. no. you are aware that they show you that they love themselves, you understand that in the fire they are around like this, they will do everything, but in fact this is their job. it’s just that they are like that, but sincerely in their hearts, if sasha and i danced you, you would sincerely do it, you understand? the ending needs such preparation, keep it like that, by the way, by the way, konstantin aleksandrovich we continue our program and want dance hits not only hits,

the main ones, of which one of the compositions that will be performed later went okay and figured it out, but we’ll figure it out, i’ll ask you to stay and figure it out. also our guest is polina stoma, the most powerful hit on the edge of the rain there, in my opinion, it was used almost for the first time in our country. yes, in our country. this is after the song of the singer became popular in our country, cher, you mean? yes yes that's it and here you give out autotune in the song on the edge of the rain, this just there, but listened to the effects all night, brother. she sing please leave, forgetting you, stand by the night of the day, remembered youth. i

remember this song. i just listened to her even then the cassettes were successful so the pebbles forgot you, stay away from the night of the day. my kid used to listen to this song too. i really like what the rostov bolero has become now, in what sense it was absolutely what it was then as an artist, but then it was on the edge of the rain with an autonomous now. more of your real voice and song out of time nowhere. it's awesome when you go upstairs, that's before the rain right wow. oh, that's really cool, because, well, when an artist starts to describe. uh, a song for himself he's different. and when you were a project, yes, i was a project, dmitry moss and anatoly lopatin wrote for me, but

years have passed and now i write in tandem with my husband , my husband writes my text, i write music for his songs. and when an artist writes songs for himself. he feels them differently, lives them differently. he just creates them. and it's certainly different, because no one can feel me better, than me and my closest person. and that 's why they're probably different. i feel that it is the husband who writes the text. do you know why you feel it? no, i understand, uh, how a man thinks, when he writes the texts of a woman there, you understand everything about the fact that you are my only one. i'll die without you, uh, and i'll die without you. so, this is this, how this action wants to hear himself. but the fact is that, mm, in these songs that my husband and i wrote together, and many stories that i once lived in a past relationship are sewn up, how would we think about what you write a song and i i say, listen, i had such a story. well, well, thesis, as it were, yes. why there?

that's why i suffered, why it ended there. and why did i feel offended there or lonely there? well, in short, yes, and he composes the text and then a song appears, well, something like that, we had this many times, but no one knows what song about whom, because your business, probably, in general, that is, they all run in you almost all the photos. yes, i uh forgot to introduce my good, uh, not friend. eh, this one information shame of the fatherland. who he just wasn't. he was a sailor, even true alexander anatolyevich antivirasha. the person who came up with the news block, well, i didn’t come up with informational music, uh, message broadcasting, but i have been doing this for a very long time. yes, on this one. by the way, yes, our podcast is called 20 years later, and therefore today we are talking about 2001, when we went with sasha from the first channel to

comment on the eurovision song contest in copenhagen, where mumiy troll performed with the song lady altyn, damn cool songs they were a little condemned there. us our look was won by a duet from estonia i called it afroist political correctness. naturally. well, everyone seemed funny features. we heard the homeric experience in headphones. we had a connection with the studio and somehow everything rolled. i added a little we were told. guys, here you are radio maximum, that's how you do it on the air and it does it. you mtv-shnik make your own story. you two will do just fine . here with this approach. well, as you say, we were given the green light. we behaved very well. it was very nice what they said, well, you are generally kt makharadze and nikolai ozerov, which of us is katemaharadze, who is the nicolizer? i don't know, but this is the highest award in sports commentary. and

when we made these comments, and from copenhagen i must say that i did everything from memory, and konstantin aleksandrovich had a magic device called power lines and he quickly got some information from there, we grinded it, and we did it all in the shortest leads. as live as possible, and that's probably okay. it's just the opposite. that's the way it should be and then we were told, you yourself at least heard it. so, i was caught thinking that, please, i can’t quote. you that i will quote myself, i can bush, and he can remember me somewhere, but when i looked at the record, i also thought, huh? okay, since everyone liked it, okay? it was bold, you already started on your own, we only had official information about ourselves, but we processed it on our own there and we persuaded the public to get sick. everyone

told me. that's around in your ear, yours will win exactly by them, they were snapped up every evening. they did push-ups every time on the sauchek every time they rehearsed. everyone said these would win in the end. what is the twelfth and i finally realized that eurovision is, well, completely them. they really tweaked the sound for the performance. it's generally unpredictable. all. i believe that our predictable we had a banquet. we talked and talked with the woman who organizes all this. yes, and we were with her at the banquet. she smiled enigmatically at me. who wins show how she smiled. it's a mystery. you understand like, it's a big secret, but actually the most interesting. the most interesting thing in copenhagen didn’t happen exactly at the auto-party, when everything was over and in the evening all the musicians who lived in the same hotel met a-a downstairs on the stage, there was such a scene, and there, in uh, free access to the

instrument. okay, that's it, let's go. everyone passed, i remember what happened on mtv in 2003 . and then we are now carpet weaving, in the third year we already went tattoo tattoo noise was a lot, of course. yeah, but not then at the peak they were good. what is the third place, that's all, a quite predictably, they were directly sure that they would win in the t-shirts on norman came out of one differently. they would go in. there was an inscription, of course, if we had uh hot. yes, they were strivingly aimed at the victory, i think that mr. shapovalov was more directed than they? well, he, i see. they just got high, because, well, they represent the country is a high. yes, i told you, yes, that i recently found out that shapovalov turns out to be a child psychologist. this is the first and main one. yes, this is the main secret.

groups. i think, after, of course, i didn’t advertise the melodies and vocals, but how clearly this is something not to hide and not advertise, but there are a little nuances, i talked a lot about this . you just don't follow the creativity. uh, by the way, i'm very friendly with yulia and yes, we still communicate very strongly. our children are very friendly. she 's great. yulia hello. yumi chu is a good person and she is so good-natured. she is so open. here he is, as it were, communicating with her in a family way, and our children are very friendly and hmm in the sense that she never had any star disease not so long ago, i even played the producer of tatu in a feature film. but it doesn't matter if we skip it, but i have a direct relationship with this group. true well, something like that personally. or

maybe in the end, when the tatu group appeared on mtv a little earlier than this performance at eurovision, it was still a sensation. they're here, how long they've been it was an association. this is the hottest period, when mr. shapovalov led them by the hand, not because he was a child psychologist. and because he brilliantly was able to tell me how old you came into show business. eh, what was it a year? i was only 19 years old. maxim fadeev just called me from volgograd they called me. i was like this with a towel on my head. and they called me and said it was urgent. polina heard in karaoke is a well-known story. i sent my demos and my printed photos to moscow, yes. call me too. as a matter of fact, like this, uh, i dropped everything and went teleporting. well, on the train, yes, here, i came to tak and went to

his studio, and he told me that yes. you are the same as in the photo. now we're on kine he came up with the name, right? this is a swimsuit. yes, the bikini is two pieces. yes , why have you never performed in monokini? i looked for all your clips looked after. i feel uncomfortable for konstantin alexandrovich, many began to get acquainted with creativity, because , and then clips, and then i saw your performances more 10 years later, there at some discotheques of the 90s it is not supported. and weighed, because the loyalty of the fans can not be bought. i understood, of course, i already

hinted that you were heard in karaoke , it was so. here is the same bridge or tolya nu for me it was then just two men who are adults, i am an 18-year-old girl. uh, i was walking along the arbat where there is karaoke there, some kind of regular microphone was advertised with these buttons. well, in general, in short, this is this thing, this thing, yes, which now seems to be just dinosaurs, just so lisping. in general, it doesn't matter. i managed to titanic and my soul unfolded. well, in general , they apparently liked us, but they didn’t fit, they said. girl, you sing cool. but we are doing music and seriously, that is, we are not we just listen to it there, and we create it, as if we are working. let's do something together . i think so i don't know. well, in short, here, of course, i was still such a teenager, you know, now i'm growing up, well, then it was still. they left a business card with me, and i just, well, i put it in my pocket. i didn't

react. you could say it's been a few months. before i called, because i just found her and remembered when i arrived at the studio already, as if after the call. yes indeed they gave you the address of the studio. i arrived, they say, well, come on, sing something to us. well, i'm celine dion again there, mira carey. well, there won't be boys there, yes, yes, that's it, cool. but where are you in this? i hear like here is a chip in the voice and it is recognizable, but there must be something like that. let's write a song , try it, and you'll try it, sing it. we 'll see what happens, because otherwise it's useless to start the project. you can sing covers as cool as you like, like, well, a version of yes, famous songs, but where in this you do n’t understand, you need an artist with something of your own and so appeared at the edge of the rain, they wrote, bye. i'm the rain i was invited to the studio, and we recorded it. this was my first mistake. working at the studio is so real, i was completely delighted. and to this day. this is my favorite part of my profession. i love teaching the most. in his students and work in the studio on the song. it's just yes, i love it. by the way, i have a similar story, we sit on the

clouds. i, too, when i came to max fadeev directly to the studio and the song was already written, we sit on the clouds. he was just looking vocalist. and when he sang to me, all the ideas are on the clouds, and he says, repeat this, uh, that is, and i sang the way he showed me and says, everything, you say, the soloist of the manakine. here, yes. that's it for this phrase. well, this is the first one, i think. yes, this is my first song . your first video. i now we answer them. he is known to the universe anton. i don't remember the words, yes, super wow, i don't remember now, to be honest, it's been beautifully beautiful for many years. it sounded everywhere. no, i couldn’t stand her, because i was working on hit fm on the radio and were programs on demand and the phone always

picks up the phone. there is already someone there and every second song was mine from the wagon and everyone said, put the titanic tired. well, it 's beautiful if it's both a song and a movie, but even the most delicious 18 once an hour is too much. listen to this. this is work. our sasha is good for people and the space that we now have in return. i already had it. we can remember what a great song we have maturity now. okay, happy. now the weather, indeed. here, i listened to you, girls, that polina, what can i understand, that now nothing to grab onto. okay, now already. well, okay, here it is there to do. yes, this is normal. in 2003 2003

, and so it was clearer than now. and 2003 went album album album. now i now listen, well first, adore and remember the pleasure. in 2003 , there was a factory that you sang the wind, but together. you are still so, you know, compared to you you are so, and so experienced on stage, and yulechka is such a little child. yes, she felt herself, not very confident, but

amazing i will say of course, someone could not cope. and we saw it this year. olim, then give me the method about the bride, of course, yes, it was actually natasha and there is glucose. and sasha, it hurt me too, and when i saw, when natasha came out, that there was a bunch of the bride at first, they did. they are generally entertainers on the first, i don’t remember directly, this is a performance. yes, yes , there was, in my opinion, temnikova, uh, someone else was gagarin. yes, they all went out in bridesmaid costumes and the audience was like that. here i remember to show.

who is who, who is she, you know, this do you understand the face? yes, no. basically , it comes out in glasses not at all a veil. me first thought. well, no, not her, why? and i immediately looked and thought, this is the girl who starred in yeralash as a child. yes, she was her childhood, and borya grachevsky . natasha and i were very close friends at that moment. that's when they started the most yes, yes, yes, and she was very worried before this performance. and when max announced to her that you would be in the olympic max, i didn’t get tanned. i say, i don’t know what to wear. and i i say, i looked at her, and i was so

naughty, she says, she says, i didn’t burn out. stunned people serve the legend that glucose had nothing to perform in, so the cartoons made it, but she was just preparing specifically for this performance. if something there was not some kind of defect. everything for her. it was she very much approached responsibly. here. and max also appreciated it, and she, of course, made a myth of such people 's dignity. from the first life, the girl is so yes . that is, he is such a complete olympic in front of her , yes, 17 years old was very scary. i think maybe maybe that's why anatolyevich really expressed a hypothesis that has the right to exist, maybe that's why, well, initially she always sang in glucose, natasha ionova, but the fact is that she was always embarrassed to go out. max says something, so you go to perform. she says, oh no, max i pulled my leg today. further oh no, maxi, i didn't get tanned. oh no, maxim is not fat, there is

something else and max is like that. yes, damn it, shoot a cartoon. okay, and you are here, and therefore they made cartoons. she is a legend that she doesn’t always could come out, you know? and then max says, everything will go. i'm not tanned, the project will go silent. you come up with a new one. it was just a riddle. no one was afraid to come up with anything, and then he already arranged a casting to find this girl. here's the right head. yes, i do not tell you when they appeared. yeah, hiding behind technology is not on purpose. and so for the intrigue. yes, at about the same time, and, in my opinion, at first glucose appeared, then smoke burned, on the smoke , looked how cool. it will be necessary to make a group, he came looked looked and thinks op, you need to come home to do the same then manga appeared you are a specialist in

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actually, it turned out that i was very useful to them, what exactly you were. well, first of all, uh, well, i was one of the strong players it turned out, both in competitions and in life brother. my strength is endurance, yes, a strong structure, seriously, that is, i lost a lot of weight, but skill yes, my strength was useful to the guys at competitions. so we started to win, what needed to be done during this holidays there were tests, that is, there it was in the wild on the island, which was physically and physically difficult to survive, that is, without food, it was necessary to go through many tests, i drove off there, probably, as to a resort of this type, well, for example, tin, what will be such horror, simply, of course, clearly, but the strength of my inexperience, when they asked me

what you want to take to the island. i'm going to laugh now and not flint and lighter, right? tweezers oh, that's important. that's because it's not. because i was worried that there would be hair somewhere, you know, yes, like that. and when i arrived some fig tweezers, that is, we survived there to the fullest, that is, ah, to the fire was not extinguished, you need to constantly maintain it at night during the day, that is, i did not sleep at night and watched this fire. how interesting it is to be reconsidered, at least not to watch everything survived, then no. or, as in the book of fighting for fire, someone could not stand it, someone left earlier, someone hmm gave up, gave up and said that it was really just people who pawed there, with some it was so. yes, but the girls

were stronger. why is this happening you have adapted even to the dentist. we yell. louder. this is not, yelling yelling at the dentist in a dream. child does not yell, but he is a boy. well, by the way, i made friends on this game zhanna friske, before that i was small. cool, yes, yes, a real person, when i united, united by tribes. yes, zhanka and i became very good friends, and she turned out to be a very good person. here is the same real star. they are without a star, what is called a real star, they do not show off. they are very open as much as possible, as simple as possible, as kind as possible, and this was the genre i absolutely agree with. that is, and in general all the time together

there were, and even she later noticed that i was removed by agreement. oh intrigue, reveal it. yes, i don’t know myself, that is , there were several male voices against me, they were talking. yes, apparently, i was yes, a strong player and the genre noticed that i was removed for a reason . who was it? yes? well, we should know this, of course, yes, well, it's all a game. this is all clear. everything is huge for a minute. you know, someone was stronger. in intrigue i'm very me

reached the end of the game. here i got a huge buzz. and i am grateful to max and grateful to god that i got into this game at all, and to this island and that i got such an experience, this is where you happened to be geographically, the panama islands. very far, very far. this is not the emperor, panama. well, almost, but i don’t know, the film crew probably saved us from everyone, because we were looking for mango all the time and couldn’t find it, so we didn’t have any food on the island at all. i don't know, we had some limes to give you want anything. there's nothing for us gave the girl not even. i can't live on an island where only limes grew instead of apples . you will not believe, that is, we have nothing to eat at all. it turns out 40-odd days. hey, i got there. i went out, i

weighed forty-three kilograms, about 143. why is there no such project now? i need to lose 10 kg. here is your diet. first channel. let's resume and animate. tu-tu-tu lose weight, then lime lime lime, lime lime and nothing else for a long time. yeah, when we pick it up, we'll see. i would fit into it, probably i would, i would probably whine, uh, i would probably be the weakest link, but still, i would probably fit in very hard in the sense that you still need to participate in competitions. wait to build something. just wait and sleep and all no hatred. yes , damn it's the most for himself, so that he does not break, and not that there is not. there is nothing, nothing, but the fire was for some reason in order to warm

up or the shells cooked them. so they burned it was it. that's what it's called on the wok. yes, it’s useful, here we were warming ourselves, and the fire is a real survival show. let's let's remember that it was still 2003. i don't remember. in what year did these britney spears appear? christina aguilera, who always went there by that time, released powerful hits, generally divided there into those who like britney spears because of those who like both, but for me , aguilera was somewhere in general on the throne. and britney was somewhere. well, cool, but somewhere not on the throne at all. well, that is, i belonged to those who loved christina, so, well, in general, she danced cool, yes, yes, but i'm talking about vocals, you know, i'm all, how could i ears love milk about love. listen

, the fact is that they both introduced in 2003. the tan trend seems to be on trend, mate. i will now add no justin timberlake there and in principle, they have come. this is the invasion with the disney club, that's all. it's all brought up grown up and conquered the wolf. seryozha lazarev's prices, by the way, mice shot about fidgets in the same year. yes, powerful with the song belle in french the clip is gorgeous there are japanese women. something like that, too, with katana balls. no they are there they are with these things taxied the cameras by robots, very technologically advanced the clip was simply chic unfortunately. here they are one song and all. that's it, no, it wasn't. oh god, i didn’t sit down, that it was planned to catch something,

in short, they had more songs that are known to be good. well, of course, lazarev sang no, yes, yes, that is, well, of course, this was the most important thing . now they are retelling how it was, then i am with them , yes, for sure. waited to behave like this. who knows, just then they are now discussing, and there was a new wave from some song. i was there there are three competitive days, there are three songs. uh, it means hit of the country of its e hit of the world and actually the song, well, as if the author's, well, in the sense that no one has ever heard, and i sang. i fall into the sky a very high note song and i had problems with my voice there. there was very high humidity in the evening rose. i have a hard time remembering it all. it was really hard for me to do this. eh, i experienced a very strong wave. well, in general, in short, yes, there i met seryozha and vladik, who is just a group of smash nobody about didn't know them, and now they win and become superstars. class. damn you now i

hear. there is no voice problem. we want to hear you sing, yes with pleasure. at first i’m all in trouble dark spots water again on i won’t wait for the sky you cry, don’t give up, you reach out you meet so you don’t hide

believe then you don’t wait and it’s crying you hide you won’t wait somewhere you pay. i will fall asleep in the sky, crying , exclaiming, so you can’t hide. you believe so you beckon, i will not wait for the sky. reach out you will meet you will not hide you will take it you will be deceived you will not wait you will not wait you will not wait

. dear friends again the night again on the air a podcast dedicated to creative today again we are at the same place, at the same hour, elena hyper roman pockets and our guests lucy

chebotin actress, i can already, so to speak, after the new year's just air a- and on the channels where the roles were played before. and we already knew people as a singer, and even earlier, as a blogger, the author well, yes, you know how performers often say, and the sun, damn it, how offended. i wrote my song. yes music sent, and cried hollywood also wrote, by the way, uh, if you saw uh, on channel one , new year's eve was broadcast there for a long time for the first time they began to write again. eh, it was those who wrote that this is not correct, therefore, as far as i know, it preceded. in general, such a discussion. pretty tough in general, but in general, for many years the oblivion of the authors is unfair. in fact. this all led to the fact that, well, how would the author become just a nobody at all, if he still does not perform his

songs. yes, yes, dmitry malikov ah. singer composer, challenger blogger, super super, innovative television programs mega-shows fantastic, since we are talking about the future, we love to talk about how our uh, show business will develop, especially since we are here. well, i'm the generation that i'm sorry already sang. here it is, what kind of native side, uh, with great excitement uh, and many other hits by dmitry malikov and which, for now, can generally dance to uh, plus signs. that's why we can take a peek. here forward with understanding and about the sun of monaco, including here but in those the times when our show business developed, the road was long. well, that is, it was necessary to find somewhere a producer to record a song to get

on the radio station on the air. i do not know the morning mail of channel one and so on. now the time has changed a little, you can start from petropavlovsk-kamchatsky, where, by the way, i also lived for six years in my life, or well, the first exact time is the belt. the first one is probably a watch. no, i'm just, because you can start from there too. i myself am from there, but i can start from afar. well now this the time when you can start anywhere. well, i would n’t say that globally, you can write music from anywhere in fact, in principle, the industry is located and the entire center of the universe is around our industry and in moscow, therefore, if you want to develop and move on. it seems to me that it is worth moving, that is, all the same, moscow sucks out talents. if you do n’t move to moscow, then in general, yes, it draws. well, okay, in short, no, well, there are different professions, for example, if you are an arranger, yes or therefore, we cross. you can live in your city. i

for example, now i am collaborating with guys from kazakhstan. here they live in almaty, this does not interfere. i'm there to somehow exchange with him constantly to be in touch and uh, the internet certainly gives such an opportunity such an opportunity was not a very short way, but the competition is much greater when i started. here it is, which side is native, there was really no radio here. i'm not talking about musical television, that is, europe plus, there was just waiting somewhere . the morning mail was a star, yes. there was no morning star. here is the morning post. uh, successful broadcast one internal mail. eh, a man made a star from a man one ether, that only now there is one ether, you understand nothing. here. i'm not talking about the new year's light. by the way, i wanted to ask. and you can say so, dmitry you woke up once the famous success of the song until tomorrow thanks. uh, new year's eve from the eighty-eighth to the eighty-ninth year, when this song was put there with great difficulty, the shooting

was not far here, we circled in a helicopter on the ostankino tower in bad weather , the helicopter hovered and stopped. i was bad operator eric malinin uh, its so to speak. so he leaned out from behind an open helicopter door and in order to take me off, well, as if against the backdrop of moscow, supposedly there, although i couldn’t get out either. in general, it was the most offensive that these people did not enter the frame. hmm, just night shots of moscow near the strogino tower here. well, the point is not the point, the point is that the next morning my e with the author of the m words of this song sasha shaganov calls me and says, dim, we wrote a hit, i say that you would take, only there was one shooting and that's it. so he says, you know, i went down to the subway and there was a boy and a girl. there she says goodbye, she sings. until tomorrow, and the first of january. that's why it was like this before. just if there was good promising material, but now,

probably, too. just if there's a good looking out of it, that's a lot of professionals. and i say, now it's not about people with higher musical education. i'm talking now about the personnel of their business , who intuitively feel that they can become a hit like what is relevant now what topics are relevant now, what is needed now, and to give the viewer as musical material and against this background there is a lot of competition, so you can simply remain unnoticed even with good material among all the abundance. everything happened very slowly and gradually for me, and i can say that here it probably plays in the plus, because there is no sharp. and you know such a m-m as a clouding of the mind, that everything and everything is possible for me. i am a superstar. everyone loves me. everyone is waiting for me. here rather it is to play plus to what you can not get sick with star disease. great job both internal and external. it seems to me

that something is gradual and you slowly get used to it. and this is not some kind of pressure for you from the society that comes to you just to take a picture. now it's already part of your life, part of your work, and you don't belong to this, that i'm cool, just as it is. we just talked about the fact that at some point the authors disappeared, but we live in such an interesting time that, in principle, the figure of the performer. she too in general, she risks disappearing, because the avatar appears instead of her and with him. in general, it is more convenient to work and do what you want. he is not sick. in general, he does not lose his voice. he is not naughty, does not suffer from star disease. deal with him whatever you want. the main thing is that at the beginning, in general, at the start, there should be some character with whom he is working now, not only the author can disappear, but i can disappear from copyright societies, because all over the world such appeals are heard that there is no need to pay copyright more. yes? that is, you wrote the music. it belongs to everyone

humanity. it should not receive anything for this either, if we are talking about the future, maybe the future to live the author what kind of alcohol is obtained by international copyright societies, and i can’t, i’m probably very happy with this practice, i didn’t listen to anything like the other question that the authors, for example, in russia when? they dispose, of course, they cannot count on large fees, and therefore they most often love it. well, we are here in the creative industries and we are not trying to do some things here. it seems to me rather hide the author get a fixed salary, because it is very difficult to collect authors in russia and abroad, for example, they give a song for work free of charge, expecting royalties for this. i don’t know how it all will turn out, but in russia, it seems to me that since this year, interest in authors has begun to grow, as it were, well, it will be so. i think now very often i hear from my colleagues. i’m peers that there are

seven notes in music and i’ll think that it’s similar, you’ll think that there are actually similar words somewhere, really, that tomorrow it’s becoming very insulting lately, because their , uh, work goes unnoticed. she also doesn't pay well. and more and everyone can comprehend on their efforts. don't bring it to yourself. we can even go further, because also the generative content that we talked about avatars and what neural networks can create. e songs, as someone has little to do with avatars, by the way, this is, for example, the last time anaomi kemble. uh, mickey rourke began to be present as brand ambassadors in a toroidal form, and this, as if it goes, as if it goes, as generative content etilektualny can be created and visual too and it is manageable with this you can work. here dmitry can, uh, probably answer

this question by looking at the new animated characters in science fiction. here the figure of the artist is important. the fact is that no avatar can be made, it can be done on someone. and what to make a bright avatar must be a bright character well new technology. of course they will come. and these here is a fantastic show. on channel one , these are the first serious very swallows. i just uh was a witness to these technological of all innovations uh, i can say that it is really amazing and but i think that in the future it will be uh the norm. well, it's just this show. it's such a breakthrough, maybe not everyone understood it. eh, not everyone accepted it. but this is definitely the future and today we see how, for example, the abba show is also going on, yes, in london, uh and hmm holographic holographic yes, there are young u members of this team. but they sing beautifully there and they seem to be

real. this is also a question of the future. in principle, these are the holographic moments. they have been using it for many years, but it's just that transpos are still very expensive. uh, as soon as the technology makes it possible to reduce the cost of uh, and make it transportable, then i think that clowns will appear both for me and for lucy him yes, we will stay at home, and they will go on tour, and we will feel good, karabas drum-drum. we will karabash. we ourselves we ourselves manage it with our bellies. why are you so sure of this? and, because the rights will belong. you must know how to register the rights to your avatar, which may already be one of created such a story in general, you know, how an avatar is created, so i talked to those who create them in full detail. eh, the visual image of the artist is remembered, then some

adjustments are made so that it is already a very original avatar, that is, with some nuances and then there is a metamorphosis. it can be owned by several companies, for example. well, i 'm talking hypothetically now. yes, we cannot imagine it in any way, because somehow it will be, probably. how right are you will be regulated? i think that now over this, as lawyers are thinking. there is another interesting point. uh, the point is that the same abos with their show. this is the money that people have incurred for abu and not for someone else's live show, yes, that is, the money is the same in general, a limited amount, that is, they will wear their money, not for a live artist , and on the avatar with the avatar is easier to work with. that is, they will eventually take the place of a living artist. that is, all this will multiply in this. here, uh energy, real live performance live musicians absolutely life it will always be in

demand. no matter how cool trendy interesting bright avatar you are present , people will always love it. eh, i absolutely agree with soulful concerts, in addition, i’ll just say that, for example, there are already so many sounds. uh, it simulated a computer. yes, that is, all instruments are synthesizers and samplers are modern. in general , so to speak, in fact, all sounds can, uh, somehow, well, make them look alike. here, uh, but, for example, the sound of a live violin. it's like no who could not be made out of and anyway, but any symphony orchestra. it is, of course, in the computer it will all sound similar, but far from it, there will be no living breath, there will be no breath of the conductor. and this is the vibration of this energy that the guitars lead in their track. mm, not using computers. it seems to me that there are things that are still felt, whether it's life or

live well, after all, we must keep in mind that we have the beginning of the century just yet, that there will be ahead of us, god knows, but romantic version that artificial intelligence will never defeat a living person. she is so good for complacency, it seems to me yes , there will be time, well, maybe 200-300 years, but nevertheless, if they are, they can compete, what do these incomprehensible audiences think, which can be demanding, maybe not arrange, in principle, it is written. how many, for example, look, there is a legendary group of gorillas, yes, in fact, they performed like avatars , including on stage. yes ah was the same ours the domestic character of glucose was also a kind of avatar, and they can compete with how long they can last compared to a living artist. this is a

generational question, because in our generation we are already quite formed people. and just like the youth who have been there today for 3 5 10 years. here's how they'll probably handle it. well, it’s easier to not convince us with avatars yet. we are a livelier. i personally would go, for the sake of interest, only to some concert. that's how they all go parents who are no longer alive, for example, michael jackson. i would love to go to his concert or it will not be houston to see it either. how yes what is so, to at least? well, at least to survive these emotions? well , of course, if i were given the choice of a live performance, live concert or avatar, of course, i would choose a live performance . for example, i was at a whitney houston concert in moscow, so i can say that she was in such a sad state. unfortunately from the point of view. here is her condition. eh, mental nervous and physical. what maybe it would be even better that if

it were water, you know, the avatar was walking, where everything is smoothed out there, because we just already witnessed, as it were, the tragedies that happen to it. and it was already clear that she was not on the team. but hypothetically comes to the application of the fund of cultural initiatives label, which fully convincingly defends the concept of avatars. and he says it will be a super-label, in which there will be artists, and they will earn big money. they will influence the viewer, as you remember, e was like that project. eh, a black mirror, when a certain character was created, after which then we would be happy, because in general everything new that comes to us, but we consider it all with great interest. well, not yet , not yet, dmitry dmitry and lucy will come up with something inside, when you are sitting on the set, what, what are you there? see this is what it looks like. eh, in the same place there are different versions

, there is already nothing there, on which this avatar is performing. that is, you see, as well as a spectator. we just don't see. it's like it's completely in 3d, but we see it's quite convincing on the screen, and then we communicate with this avatar in real time. ah, the full picture already, how will it go in the television version already? naturally with the avatar himself on stage with- actually with himself. well, the only thing happens. uh, technological problems with the fact that, for example, a suit does not allow you to move the way you would move in life, because you physically forget that you, for example, do not have a skirt, and you put it in your hands, at the seams. and these hands they are falling through somewhere this mary poppins costume he had such a skirt, hat, very beautiful costume stockings. so, naturally, the movement depended directly

on the pan, i figured it out almost immediately, as well, because it's impossible not to figure it out. very special such vocals and manner. it was very difficult and we are through. they didn't know who was who. that's who well, some guessed about some and did not guess. we recorded in different positions and sitting and lying and kicking. yes, we changed the timbre and squeaked and squealed and, on the contrary, lowered it so much in bass, physically it was, of course, hard to participate and constantly remember about the skirt constantly remember that you are standing on stage in a slightly different attire if. now you are in ducks and you had to constantly remember about colloquial speech, because parasites are often used in life, which you just pretended to be colleagues and give out. that was hard too. and so i do not allow myself i was an avatar artist. here it is to ride all the time. with all this equipment, it's very hard. if only it is recorded, and then the hologram is launched onto the stage. if only

so it is once written that is done then there is already a live conversation with the public , some kind of connect question, because you shout them from the hall to go to 30 cities at the same time, for example, times again you are about money yeah bring more joy to people, why is there more joy about money on the other hand. you can go where it was impossible to go anymore clones. i think so again. these are the same avatars to feed slightly from this angle. we haven't looked at this yet. yes, it was very bright now the power of social networks, it is impossible to do it again if we are talking about the fact that in 30 cities at the same time he will be able to perform in avatar, again , there is also such an effect as an oversaturation of its audience and the fact that a lot of people can simply not go to it, because it is like an easily accessible story. it's just better

to drive through each city. yes, so three times there came out in a day and that’s it, and the cities ended. and then there's the issue of mission. and what exactly is behind this? why these avatars? it is clear that this is a business only to entertain this one thing. and if you carry something to show something people it's different, so it's very difficult. the most probable seems to be the negligence of the staff, which led to hospital infections could be mistaken two or three times, but dozens. well, it's simply impossible dmitry you understand. no one will take i damage. for you and people like you, the main fear is to leave the city in a good way, when people find out that

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all these novelties that we watch every year that appears on the market. and one way or another, people, as if on the contrary, come more to the spiritual, as if the epoch is changing and look how many people we have who practice yoga. how many people who have come to eat right? how many people who started reading how many people who started studying any questions universe? a scale they 've never been interested in before. on the contrary, i observe a different position. it seems to me that it's all there. and it's good all these innovations of yours. but as if people are still drawn to spiritual things. i'm afraid we're talking about your generation now. and i'm talking about five-year-olds and ten-year-olds. it's completely different people are afraid. i agree with lucy that at our concerts, when people come, they come not only to hear familiar songs there, but they feel some kind of consonant energy, so to speak, and they, yes, for them

it's stuffy, so it's very important for artists to be sincere. here is sincere sincerity to share the charge. how to help? eh, just some really now, so today i read the news that there are not enough psychologists in russia. it seems to me that there are always artists. yes, so to speak , music heals when a person is in a bad mood, or something sometimes turns on his favorite music and he miraculously, as if everything everything passes, or some moments of some kind of experience are easier to live parting, on the contrary, a love moment is accompanied by some cool tracks, and it seems to me that anyway, one way or another , and on our way, uh, some new innovation technologies will appear, and everyone will think that this is probably a new competitors to a living artist, but it seems to me that a living artist will never leave and i will say more that people will never want to. and for the artists to be replaced by a hologram. although, for example, if we talk about another kind of art, and painting, yes, then, in general, they have gained great popularity

a show, when, for example, paintings or paintings come to life, but are large canvases on screens. they are, so to speak, somehow also three-dimensional 3d. by the way, i even think about it too. maybe make some kind of program, given that i know russian living well, and of the 20th century, maybe combine it somehow with music, that is, to enhance the emotion. that's to make children it. namely, when submitting, so that it’s not just some small pictures there in the tablet, because when you look at a picture, and there are a lot of pictures is lost. here it should be seen in volume in good light. it is well lit in a large comfortable room. if it's accompanied by the right music. there, relatively speaking, take 10 outstanding paintings of russian art and 10 classical works. there, too, conditionally vasnetsov and aivazovsky shishkin there and beyond and there tchaikovsky rachmaninov prokofiev

there borodin there roman corse yes, it may be, but children and young people will perceive it more easily both art, because for them it will be some kind of action. well, what do i think the main task in the children behind the interests of the parents is behind. it's just that i'm also a small nuance. a person's attention, it has declined earlier. remember in the tracks, and in the songs there could be a loss there for 20 seconds for 30 seconds. well , there thank you 40-50 and the person continued to listen to the song now our attention has decreased to 7-6-5 seconds on social networks. this is a constant change of a bright picture, which makes you constantly hang in your smartphone and watch something new new new is also, in principle, arranged algorithms on the internet that we just hang there for hours, because e voice assistant it reads what we are interested in reads the browser history, what we are looking for and gives us exactly that stream of pictures to video

memes, like anyone, what where sits watching music, it doesn’t matter, the stream that will interest us, this prolongs our number of hours spent on the phone, and it seems to me that this is the whole story with streaming, because you see the tracks, they become shorter , briefly speaking if earlier the track could do four minutes, five minutes, that is, now we are already basically going. 2 15 220 minutes, or even shorter, 40 minutes, and it seems to me that with avatars it's the same story. now it will be like a flash. everyone is interested, everyone looked, got carried away, and everything went on. well, what you're talking about, it turns out that art dictates. eh, dictate the technology. well , that is, this is attention, what to do with it and educate. well, that is, to counteract, and so on, or try to saddle this one. well, that is 220 songs we will do up to 20 will be 2 minutes, we will carry away 2 minutes. yes

, gradually captivating others, but at the same time we can’t walk for 2 minutes. he can perceive the work, and then i will try it among some classical work , we will not name such a concert with the famous avatar, because we don’t know, we know that the film was released and brought a huge box office. the children sat until the end, however, yes, and watched this story, because the main character added a very interesting story to himself. i'm just here for something, well me it seems that if we create a cool product that has someone who takes the hand, that's what they saw. uh, lucy botinus by the sun of monaco. she took her hand and led her for several months. absolutely led a large audience. what do you know, how funny i look in the car, when i say, i love kolenikov's symphonies, i put on, for example, the fourth part does not look. you

really like it, and no matter how i impose, no matter how i admire, no matter how i say that it is very beautiful, that, in basically, this whole symphony is so mesmerizing. it just runs through you a person who is next to him either imbued with it, or not, and therefore, unfortunately, we can’t impose our opinion and somehow accustom it. i think that only time will tell. i just many years. i am engaged in instrumental piano music and i really agree with lucy that there is an audience that accepts this, for which it is very important, who are ready not to bow to many for the fact that i do concerts there and so on, but this audience is not very big. here it is much smaller than the audience of our songs. this does not mean that this audience does not need to be dealt with, and it is necessary to try to expand it, of course, but this is a very difficult titanic. in general, this is human work and they will not

listen anyway. after all, if they are used to a 2-minute song, they won’t listen to five-minute songs , either, or they must come to this on their own, and or you need or you need to somehow come up with some special additional visualization for them, because here i am again today i was reading, i was driving in a car, i was reading some news that the text is losing its meaning, that young people think more in terms of some kind of memes , emoji, there visualizations with pictures are also such serious cardinal global ones, in general, we live in times of such a global technical technological, of course , the revolution here and progress is very difficult to stop. really. i agree what is needed? well, if you don’t follow it completely blindly, then at least you need to listen to it, keep an eye on it, go in line with the times. especially in our business, because we we are doing. eh, as if in culture. yes, it is, so to speak, a culture that is on the cutting edge, which is, so to speak, e very uh, comparable to fashion,

so we must be fashionable, we must be modern. in other words, so to speak, we are moving to another shelf, but you already if we talk about fashion and modernity, that is, a joint track. uh-huh, i mean, the song turned out so cute. well , it's just that when you release songs, you never know if it will become a hit? yes, you never know. i'm sorry now, you make me very funny when musicians are artists who have written. uh, they seem to be a banger. they say it's a super hit. yes, it's great. it will break. everyone. it will definitely take off honestly, when i released an album on which one of the most important tracks was sans monaco and we chose what focus track would be in order to properly push it, we all chose amur, no one even could have thought that the sun of monaco would soar . and when the author says that he wrote a hit, most likely, this is to take into account his own. yep, they depreciated it. well there's nothing no no just often the author. i also had a situation here when hmm when when there was also an

album and there were songs back and forth on it, there and including hits, and i bet there on one song, and then a person from the company's records came to me and said , dim, you don't understand anything. this is what i'm saying, this song is there this night she called. this is exactly what she is. i say take it off. there, let's go back and forth, atahit. she says. no, you don’t understand that you have the last song on the album. there were 15 songs on the album called still more here it is necessary to shoot it hits. c'mon, what a general, like a lingering, generally some kind of boring stuffy. here. it’s not a stuffy song, but a song that smothers her in unison, it will take her away, the wind there is a turn, you look for me, where it won’t take away funi, it will blow away, the wind will blow us a woman with me for the last time.

yes, yes, yes, a banger, in my opinion, it's me at karaoke at night somewhere around here four of these do not happen, but you are not surprised. this is the unprecedented popularity of groups. here's hands up uh collect stadiums. uh, ivanushki international says, well, this is a new surge of some kind, in fact, what is nostalgia? this is just the generation that is now 40-45. uh, it's kind of a little younger than my generation. but when hands up were, so to speak, very popular. they were schoolchildren, they were teenagers, then, so to speak, all this was forgotten, and then now it is wildly popular again. i have a great chance you have him in 15. that's once a month. yes, the thing is that both hands up and okay

hands up especially it is very danceable music, under which you can rage , sausage, have fun, and even the children of these forty-year-olds. i mean, these are your children, you know? they are also happy to take me away for 100. these are counting rhymes. yes, this is it. i now have a popular berry song, raspberries, too, now i have a small one. well, 5 years, too, i, when malin is that one. it's all from the same series, yes, it flies, that yes, that is, it's all so simple. i don't say bad. they are good. they are just very simple, easy to remember and easy to understand. yes, songs. therefore it is very great. yes, many now know. yes, yes, gubin too. he had wonderful songs. that's just he started a little later than me, but we communicated very well, he was a guy and he is. i hope, well, uh, just somehow he decided at some point. e. well, something here at least happened to him psychologically, he decided he left

show business. yes, all his songs and music and words are wonderful. yes, now he would also be like ivanushka's hands up would work super and that's it. that's why, like this, he chopped himself career reacts and when listening to themselves in short performed by other people used to bring. yes, or, to be noticed, so as not to really hear the song went to the people, it turns out, now i'm caught. at first it was very, very, very pleasant, and then you somehow get used to it and very often you don’t even hear how to play. he tells you, about your own, your own song and you are like that, and it is already becoming public domain. yes, it seems like this is how it should be 7 affect the lives of, of course, people people, as if create associations create memories for me, the most precious thing that a person can be is a memories no, of course. i also have

a lot of stories, when here is some old young song, there is already an adult. the uncle is coming, dim, i went to the army according to your song, there i said goodbye to the girl, then i wrote sad there, she waited for me. and now, well, as if everyone has such such music, as well as songs that are associated with some important events in life. i have one last question. i, in principle, already understand, uh, probably the answer, but here it is. what do you think? how many years are still ahead of the artists, when he will defeat all technologies with his talent, skill, voice skills home, a century, just enough for lucy , i hope it will be enough too. yes definitely cool. it's just that we, i think, we have raised a few, the topics are very creative, how much can you look further directly from the air further to develop. uh, those, uh ideas that came in connection with the avatars. tv viewers. write to us on what you left our transfer your social networks lucy to your social networks. write send social networks. oh

please tell me lena kiper whether you want to be a karabas barabas with your own tame avatar, and you have suffered a lot with the artists, to be honest, on this optimistic note, dear friends, the announcement of dmitry malikov is really an angel. here is an angel man. i believe they have no mission. eh, in my opinion. i have worked with various artists. an artist comes, creates an art object with himself, creates an example , creates with himself. uh, a way of thinking and living and gives it as a recipe for living creative residence recipe. and god grant that everyone has a lot of time to create such powerful creative pillars that they should be equal to. which artists are very important to add a little secret, when lena and i were in the studio in the eighteenth year, on the twenty-third of january and recorded a very good song the last romantic and the call is

heard dmitry yuryevich, it's time to go to the hospital, and my son was born on the 24th. friends. my this new new generation of musicals is already in general being born. yes , only in the top and sunscreen were big artists lusya chebotina dmitry malikov and roman karmanov elena kiper thank you very much for coming to us. thank you good night dear friends. good night to everyone who likes not to talk about reading on the first literary podcast under a wonderful title. let them not speak, let them read. well, of course, we will also talk today, but all our conversations are aimed at ensuring that our viewers read with

pleasure now this night and we will always speak today as a wonderful guest - this is, uh, my old friend colleague alex varlamov good night, alexei varlamov is primarily a prose writer, and we will also talk about famous wonderful romanovs. in addition, alexei varlamov is the author of a whole bunch of biographies about writers and thinkers of the first half of the 20th century russian. this will also be our theme. well, we can not say that for many years. by the way, how many years has alexey varlamov been the rector of the gorky literary institute of this cult university which is located in the very center of moscow near pushkinskaya square on tverskoy boulevard in the house that e is glorified in e. bulgakov's novel master and margarita under the name of griboedov's house, although in fact it is herzen's house,

as we know very well. well, we'll start with the calculation of the premium. e, aleksey varlamov lariat of many premium twice laureate, national literary award. big book winner patriarchal prize winner of the solzhenitsyn prize, and which i am very pleased with, the winner of the student booker prize, which is indicated on one of the books - this is a prize now, unfortunately, we will temporarily consider this award not relevant when you thought up by your obedient servant. it was very nice. that is, it was the choice of students who are not obscured by any official standards. they just read books and chose their laureate. and here they are too. chosen chosen varlamov i propose to start the conversation with the book, which was crowned with the big book award. excuse me, for this repetition, the second prize in rank, the first

second third. here is the second very honorary award. e was e, awarded to alexei varlamov for the book rozanov's name is e, a biography of vasily vasilyevich rozanov and. e. the self-name, of course, refers to a certain subtext, but here's how rozanov appeared, he is already the fifth or sixth of your heroes. let's remember them, which were already the eighth eighth, which means that i became chronologically from the life of bulgakov. the first was prishvin, then there was alexander grin and then there was alexei tolstoy, then there was grigory rasputin, he is not quite a writer, but nevertheless such an important figure in russian life. and then mikhail bulgakov, then there was andrei platonov, then there was vasily shukshin and now vasily rozanov and you are right that, and rozanov, he somehow appeared in my previous books as such, well,

a secondary one, one might say, but a very important hero, for example, in the biography of prishvin yes, well-known conflicts and a summer gymnasium, when rozanov expelled the geography teacher roznov, expelled the high school student. prishvina loser hooligan because he did not know, uh, where is the island of ceylon in response began to be rude and in the gymnasiums it was not allowed to rob the teacher was impossible. these institutions were the most serious crime. here, well, e exactly appeared, for example, in the biography of andrei platonic because for the platonic figure pink was extremely important. he repelled him and argued with him, but this was so important for him after leaving personally . they didn’t intersect in any way, yes, but all the less that’s exactly ushkovsky there is absolutely, an amazing record by viktor shklovsky that when he made such an air flight around russia and platonov - this time he worked as a provincial reclamator in the voronezh province they write that he met a provincial

reclamator who says about rozov and shklovsky , who wrote the same book. the first by yes. yes, shklovsky, this fact, uh, parasite, then exactly met in the biography of rasputin. by the way, it’s very interesting, because we are generally used to perceiving rasputin so a little bit, as some kind of cranberry frivolous figure in russian life in russian history, but in fact they wrote about him , the deepest relatives, of course, and meshkovsky wrote. and prishvin wrote a block wrote, white berdyaev wrote sergey nikolaevich bulgakov wrote, panels in his honor composed. he praised rasputin very unexpectedly, and it seemed to me very interesting in general, a panicker, if speak morozov sounds ambiguous from the very beginning, because this is a paradoxical figure and those who like to catch him over something to catch, they always say that here you are speaking for a you're talking against it. eh, a year ago. you say one thing and then another, but this is such a figure, apparently woven from a

paradox. he was scolded during his lifetime, and in response he mockingly spoke in a straight line, only crows fly, and the heavenly bodies move in a straight line. elsu. and why should i have one point of view on the subject, i have several of them, but still here i see, maybe i'm wrong. and you, of course, are more of an expert in this field, but i see here a paradoxical reference to dostoevsky's demons because there is such a famous scene when ivan shatov asks his mentor. stavrodina, they didn’t tell me, i’m quoting roughly, they didn’t tell me that russian people cannot live without god, and now you say that there is no god. when do you lie then or now, e and the stavrugen calmly, not considering that he is in doubt. when i didn't lie and now i don't lie. i'm just now speaking from an atheistic point of view, he says, there is still no moral defect here, well, in a moral flaw, i recognize who just didn’t reproach, but, it seems to me, uh, i don’t know

if he meant it himself starogin, when he declared such a position of his, in general, of course, dostoevsky meant a lot to an even person, and in a biographical sense, remember the first one. actually coined this term. legend of the great inquisition. but the rostov of dostoevsky's brother of the karamazovs does not have this word. legend here and uh, therefore uh, of course, these are the trousers they spoke to him. do you understand? what a thing, it was the zeitgeist . i think rozanov, like no one else , reflected the spirit of the time, when the already mentioned rasputin was perceived by some as a prayerful elder by others, as a depraved terrible person, when azov is another such important figure of the era on the one hand. ter terrorist yes and so, it seems to me, uh, rozanov's nature, rozanov's personality, how the sponge absorbed the zeitgeist and it expressed and reflected the zeitgeist of a really very dual very duplicitous very indefinite. but if rozanov were

different. he would not be pink and therefore make claims against him, it seems to me, well, this is a little ridiculous. it's ridiculous, especially now. well, okay, even contemporaries could reproach him for some kind of moral uncleanliness, but now we don’t know who we are to judge someone and rate someone for behavior, of course, of course, he was what he was and this concerned, and most different things yes, his attitude, there are jewish questions. one of the most yes, but he actually had a different attitude towards orthodoxy, and also at the same time spoke out of christian positions, ardently the luberian church, on the other hand, wrote such terrible things. about christ , uh, everything. there, no worm will write the attitude towards russia, which are on the one hand. he was madly in love, but well, because he loved, he allowed himself the most severe criticism, and in the address of his native country. well, it's straight. here he was like this and my task, author's, my task, i’m definitely not saying not to rate him how bad or good he was, but simply to tell the reader that he

was so different, and the reader is already free to do with my book whatever he wants to accept my hero not accept my hero, my task is to honestly tell his story, i see. well, you said a wonderful thing, but the legend of the grand inquisitor. this is really a book that allowed him to engage in literary work. this ninety- one seems to be the year, yes, well, i'm not mistaken, but she made him a name she would make. this important. really. yes, that's exactly what i mean, but a very important thing. you said that he invented this phenomenon. yes, i invented it, because this text does not exist. e brother ramazal. yes, the devil knows ivan's plan, he says that he makes it clear to him that he knows about this plan, ivan in a snake. and he recoiled and said, no, no, just not about that, that is, in general, this manuscript never existed . is it possible to say, so rozanov is adding a lot to russian culture, but, as it were, he is adding with words something that is just because of paradoxes, and other less resolute ones

who walk in a straight line could not finish those who stood on opposite sides of the barrier. is it possible to say that he manages to do something so, very special, that few people understand by their teeth you can say anything, but it seems to me that the word being added implies some agreement with the original. yes, a sequel. he is rebelling. he blows up he denies. he resists roznov. never for exactly always against. when it happens, yes, this is such a water surface that never calmly it happens. she always, like waves, rolls over and destroys everything, and he is first fascinated by something, then just as much. love this is also the most interesting thing. when he studied at the gymnasium, his biography was so complicated, he studied at three gymnasiums, he was a hooligan loser, like a baker, terrible, but at the same time he said that russian gymnasium students are the best thing in russian history, because the devil is about them

breaks teeth. and then this person becomes a gymnasium teacher and a teacher. he becomes holding his muzzle. he was terrible the teacher was a terrible teacher. everyone who remembers him remembers some kind of monster, and in this, too, here are the amazing products of rozanovskaya's personality. well, uh, it must be said that the title of the book. of course, heavenly. yes, there is some talk here, of course, it's still just such a marketing ploy. and this has nothing to do with this ambiguous strange polysemantic speech that can be on the screen. e, the interpretation is presented as a philosophy. and a treatise, someone to appear as an exercise in parallel history, is there still some kind of parallel here or not to you rozanov became more understandable or not after writing the book? well, maybe it has become a little more understandable

, but again i want to say that i myself have written a lot. yes , a lot has been said, there is an excellent roznov encyclopedia. such a typical nikolaevich putin let's call him. yes , a person says the first such biography of various things in the series, he stopped by for health. yes, here of course, yes, and therefore i immediately limited the task for myself that i have no purpose to write. this is such a comprehensive book. there is no purpose to write his complete biography. about the meaning of all his work. i confess terrible things when i write biographies of my hero writers. the first thing i do is read a collection of their writings. well, what are you re-reading, something in the first cases for these 30-30 and understood. i won't read this. i just drowned i will drown in this material and my task is very simple to tell the story of his life. here it is biography. in the literal sense of the word. i don't touch much of his work. here is my task to tell, when he was born, who were

dad and mom, what were the women in his life, what were the children in his life? yes, because family life has influenced growth, however, the most important one. in fact, it is family life that explains all his upheavals. somewhere amazingly exactly he entered russian literature from a conservative position, yes, in such right-wing positions, and from a monarchical position, and then all of a sudden, he’s like me, and sarah pavel is the opposite, yes, the apostle paul who becomes the most becomes a gentile. he becomes a judaphile, he becomes. yes, that's why this happens to paul, who becomes the most one can say what happened to him, on the contrary, happened and why it happened, because that's like one of the most tragic tense moments in his life. this is his marriage history. yes, his first wife was apollinaria suslova , a long-term girlfriend of dostoevsky. yes, not very long-term, but in general, some period some period there with two marriages. this it means a period that fyodor mikhailovich would not have

written almost anything if he had remained snakes, yes, but in his life and destructive constructively and in the life of various things, the same thing, and then why did they break up and he had a second wife, but with the first he did not was divorced, and therefore the second marriage was not considered legal, although they did not marry in the church, but for the state it meant nothing, and therefore the children who were born in this marriage. they were not legitimate children. they didn't have his last name, they didn't have him, patronymic and other stuff, it was wild, angry, wildly angry that he just didn't did in order to turn the tide completely fet. yes, absolutely it was quite a common story. and people somehow resigned themselves to this and adapted to it. i was grigorievna dostoevskaya there already in the future . he said you were worried. well, your girls will get married, they will change their last name, and he was furious wild. well , in a terrible situation, he would be such a person, of course, he, with such fantastic ideas about this and that, he was sick, i would die, the girls would go

to the panel and become prostitutes, and he wanted, so that they were dostoevsky again, again , sonechka. relaxed, yes, and a prostitute. lisa from notes from the underground and many more who exactly? yes and so he writes a letter to the victorious ruling marquis, and they tell him, there’s even a heart that he can’t do and even understands that there are enemies around, but enemies, who they are, don’t take the church’s cenote. no higher. he is also a maximalist. and who is higher than jesus christ, and this is where the rozanov rebellion begins against the gospel against orthodoxy against the new testament, and hence, its roll into the jews of the old testament in the ancient religion, because from his point of view there could not be such a thing, yes, and that's exactly the translation because if you do not recognize my children, yes, if christ did not order, as rozanov believes , to recognize children, at least in the interpretation of the then laws it sounded like this arises his christ-fighting, not even a

rich man. you are not on christ divinely, because for rozanov it turns out that christianity is a religion with which it is good to die, but it is bad to live christianity against the family against sex. yes, the most important part of human life, associated with eos with physical love, too, as if bashfully hushed up is taken out of the brackets and exactly in this one, wildly infuriates the most important topic. he so-so writes down such details that james joyce just rests. yes, for him, he really was like that. here is an infant profit in every sense of the word. yes, because he could approach any woman and ask. but how are things going with her husband and everything is like at night, that there all the universities wanted him to do things himself or nothing? circumstances you can discuss theatrical premiere or what? you ate for dinner, that you can't discuss it? it's such a part of life, a huge huge important part of life. and than everything else and so it does it with such a little ingenuous

shamelessness and it terrifies them. this stuffy shamelessness is wonderful what you said to rozanov. i think it seems to me much less, uh, his feelings than, but it seems to me that he is not always aware of his bulgarian he is not a cynic. yes, absolutely organic, like a child that's how my idea of ​​my book would be exactly in this writer to a man whose childhood was stolen. this is how his biography turned out. it ’s too early for a father to die there, and a mother for the second time, well, actually she got married from what was a terrible person, spread rot on children and there was exactly a terrible father. childhood is actually not this childhood. he ran into a dream. he escaped in a dream from all these circumstances. and now, it seems to me, this is a stolen childhood. it then popped out. he was given such an eternal child , but at the same time, rozanov is valuable to us, not just for that. eh, how original is he? someone not like, and the fact that he expressed the time, because after all the iron curtain. no matter how much they argue, he is or churchill, but all the same

, his idea, of course, was said after yes, of course, yes, yes, this is his metaphor. i am the apocalypse of our time, that is, vasily vasilyevich rozanov, of course, hmm, organically and directly, i didn’t even always think about what he was doing and expressed a lot of truth. resurrection. the first russian blogger. after all, he came up with this genre e, the writer's diary. it's still the first fruit. still these are such slightly long texts, and yet it is written in such a slightly heavy language in a dostaevsky manner, even though it made a revolution in the language, the fallen leaves are solitary. actually we are talking different, therefore books in general. because yes, i did not read them. well , because by and large roznovskaya journalism is interesting for specialists. well, yes, he is sharply paradoxical, but who will read his numerous articles in the new time and in the russian word it has become part of history, fallen leaves are forever, solitary

fallen people, genre and thoughts in this genre. if you think that this is an essay, i really like what it really is, as if the fight against literature follows some kind of reasoning, and then e famous clarifications. she is cabbies for but without a matik, sitting backwards on , uh, a pile of cartoons, well, as if there is no literature, but there are, uh, side arguments that visit him at other moments when he is driving cabbies, but in fact, everything is the other way around, if literature . oh well, as prishin said that rozanov this is after the word russian literature is fine, and i am a free application or conditions to diaries cracked by a huge 18 tons, which are now completely forced into 150.000. this is very important , if it weren't for that, we wouldn't know where roznov's grave is. this is terribly interesting, on the one hand, when they were there in this yelets gymnasium. yes, this one kicked him out, in fact, he didn’t break his life, but actually gave him fate. who knows, he gave

it exactly to prishvin from the gymnasium, he would become the previous one he became, but then he wrote down the place where the grave is located in the chernihiv skele, thanks to this we have now stopped this grave, indeed the image of mikhail mikhailovich prishvin has been greatly transformed in recent years, because it is not only and not so much to write a naturalist, but he is also a wonderful photographer. and most importantly - this is a thinker who, 18 volumes, left invaluable evidence from his time. well, now, according to the plan, alexey nikolayevich is going to bet. it's called the old book. i'm talking about the techniques that i have on shelf. these are not museum pieces. these are just books that i take off the shelf, the basic idea is very simple, that books talk to us not only when we read them. and just we see the spine, we see how this book looks like. in my hands. e, a book that was published in 1893, and the reasons for the decline and

new trends in modern russian literature. the book is the most famous - it was at first a lecture by dmitry sergeevich merezhkovsky. this is a very well known fact. here on the flyleaf there is a dedicatory inscription on the nineteenth years of an unknown person. this book is given to someone on their wedding day, but that 's not even the point. eh, it seems to me that in this lecture, later in this book, merezhkovsky comprehends literature and the spirit of time in a completely new way and in many respects for the first time in the ninety- third year bc, the release of the light, e of the first issue of the collection of russian sheets by valery bryusov as early as the ninety-fourth year year it appears and there is still no russian symbolism . and here merezhkovsky calls to understand that literature is connected with the time of merezhkovsky with very thin threads. uh here makes the conclusion very simple. this is a thick book. and i uh, almost only one phrase, the three

main elements of the new art, the mystical content of the symbols and the expansion of artistic impressionability, my god. how exactly, on the one hand, the sphere of literature includes, er, a lot of what was not included before. we just saw that in conversation. yes? well, questions of sex are questions of everyday life. well, and so on. it's like taboo things like that. that is, as if it were a continuation of positivist logic. we will know. uh, people, typical characters in under typical circumstances, realism still increases, but we people of the computer era understand that if you increase and increase, then pi will blur. yes, here he says, here you appear mystical content. this is a book that, uh, made up an epoch in its time and it is very important, uh, and notable for our modernity, to also look for these keys to look for. uh, such magical master keys to what is happening in art now. well, we

'll be back. now to your creativity to your books. we talked about biographies of which there are eight a and e throughout the heroes. well, they are related to each other. they lived in the same space, they represent the same spirit of the times and this is the time that you like, as a literary historian, as a philologist, but i don’t know if you like it or not , but you somehow plow it to me very much interesting, and i can say that i really have such different heroes, but what unites them, they were all born, and in the nineteenth century, they were all brought up in that system of the price of children, and they were all included in literature. silver age, by the way, here the book is merezhkovskaya, because in many ways this is such a chronological beginning of the silver, of course, of course, and then all my heroes in one way or another faced the revolution. it was with this terrible break, the upheaval of russian life, that they had to somehow build relations with this new time. yes, either accept it or not accept it, go into exile, go into opposition, go to the service of the bolsheviks, whatever you like. yes, there are different patterns

. they are of great interest to me. they are intimate. seems extremely important. you know me. now i'll try to guess. ah, the link. between your studios, like a biographer. eh, and like a prose writer. here is the book i would like to talk about. eh, this is a book to my soul, paul is very. well, beloved. it is also a turning point, yes, because this book is our contemporaries with you. i didn’t specify, but we are almost the same year, yes, yes, now we are around sixty, therefore , everything related to perestroika was then, as when when we were around. to thirty or a little less and it's the same fracture. yes, that's how spiritual that's how we, too, in general, brought up. they degenerated in one country and were brought up in one system of values, and then there was this turning point, which can be assessed in different ways, but one way or another, we all ended up at some point in another country and had to build our

relationships. here with this other country with this other reality. and, of course, this is the era of change that we had to go through, and i'm interested in it. here is how the chinese say it there. yes, it looks like it proverb. god forbid yes lies there in an era of change. so we had to ask a provocative question. is it right to say once again about a person who is quite predictable. well, that is, until the age of 85. he was alone after the eighty-fifth year. he became different, and then something happened to him, or he, uh, there is a business there, or uh, everything happened to him that is expensive, but is it wrong to say? the heroes of time in the 19th century still hits, if we use our terminology , books became not about the past, but about the burning present, yes, starting with the hero of our time lermontov and then oblomov bazarov yes , actually, uh hmm everything, yes, all russian

classics, it is actually modern there at the captain's daughter. unless to remember, well, war and peace, in part, although there are also modern cases. yes, of course, and crime and punishment evgeny onegin woe from the mind all chekhov all dostoevsky people. yes, absolutely modern. yes, yes, yes, this is a problem , i also thought about it, why, if in the nineteenth century he described the literature of modern life. today, literature is very retrospective from some point, because igor pushkin there are pushkin’s departures of bulba, even lermontov’s captain’s daughter vadim and a song, of course, still in the 19th century, russian literature had almost no competition, but i mean that literature really was our everything and main thing inside the country. and so literature felt. this is the need to write about modernity today, there are a lot of different other sources and literature about modernity. maybe that's why it is not quite capable and

wants to compete with them. this is one second moment. but we really like me it seems doomed to argue about the russian twentieth century, because you were it. well, we lived, but we didn't understand it. that's what it was, that it was a dispute about the soviet era. and in the soviet union how hot, which in the soviet union just someone thinks that this is such a peak in the development of russian civilization, a great country, oh, which we have lost for someone such a black hole, continuous where normal history. yes, yes, and therefore, it seems to me, literature. here he makes some necessary contribution contribute. yes, in order for a to deal with this, but if we talk specifically about a , my roman is my soul pavel uh, you understand? what a thing here i do not really agree with the fact that the hero of my novel. here is such a typical person. for me, he is just an exception, because i didn’t understand, briefly yes , he is from a closed city from the military, yes, and he is a person who sincerely believes in soviet

values ​​works, again, our dear viewers can agree to disagree there. yes, i remember my youth well. yes, i was born in such absolutely soviet family. dad, mom were communists, i was brought up by the soviet school of pioneers, the komsomol, but at some point. i realized that everyone is lying to me. that all this ideological husk that surrounds us and all these correct and soviet slogans and all these peoples of the party are single words. life was different, yes, because life is different and when i entered the university, but we were still small at school, maybe we didn’t talk a lot about this topic, but you won’t meet him - it’s already different . and of course, here is the philological faculty of moscow state university where i studied in the eighties . i can not say that it was some kind of hotbed of liberalism and opposition, but, nevertheless, a healthy critical audience of people. there were nikolaevich rubin. well, others, of course, and at the lectures of mechanins there, stop anybody. yes yes, of course, they told how it was. perhaps the truth about our

lives, about forbidden names, about forbidden books that did not reach us, that we wanted to read. yes, we wanted to read all his colors. everything reeled off everything pasternak. they wanted to read bunin, and somehow this is the personality of paul, which is my soul. my soul paul - it really is. a child who absolutely believes in soviet values, he is such an ideological komsomolets because he was born in a city where this, speaking in the scientific language of cognitive dissonance, what you are brought up and what you see as such an orthodox komsomolets, he is just a sincere sincere person, but he gets into the soul environment, where political jokes are told, where brezhnev a is ridiculed and he ends up on a collective farm. yes, it's like this a fact from the biography, when we entered the university it was in the first year they didn’t send us in the first year they didn’t send us, and about us right away. so we entered the universities in the first year. uh, state farm terminals, well the food program is

that the girls are small so they sent the boys. boys go girls , boys are listening to lectures, which means they are pulling potatoes. and so he ends up on a collective farm, and in this soviet closed city, life was still much better and higher in such material terms. that's where he got me. children's shop and what is there? where is the store? well kind of empty, where is the shop, because in his hometown with shops, thank god everything is fine. for us it was a shock in moscow there were a better store, but still we understood approximately, but he simply does not understand. he feels like a black sheep, despite the fact that he is a soviet person, and in the soviet country he feels like a black sheep and looks at him. who are you guy? where did you fall from? are you squealing, peony? who are you in the closed city, can he say? i came from closed city, it has its own secret, but the regime and such a guy really had to be, and i was also very curious. this is a real person. he absolutely has a portable. and when i was writing a novel, i

had an idea, everyone left the university. there she was tied. my whole life has been terribly pathetic. so i came as a rector. i thought, i'm honestly writing a novel about the university. here is such a last bow a sign of gratitude, and these people are teachers to their friends. and so, how would the casting be to choose the main character. and it would seem one could choose some intellectuals such any wiser such a critical mind, yes and suddenly i realized, no? no, no, it's interesting, and this guy came. why did you come, because, of course, for us for all , the university is like that. well, the start is so powerful, growth is maturation, but it has the lowest point, it seems to have come to the most innocent. it's novel. about the loss of innocence. please tell me, but in the russian academic youth theater, and how, from your point of view, the novel was staged. after all, alexei vladimirovich borodin himself did not more no less. ah, the famous director. e, undertook to put er, this novel on

the stage of a beautiful theater, how did you take it? how does such a great luck , great luck and happiness in my life happen that this happened? yes, that alexey vladimirovich read this novel and suggested that i stage it. here is a staging, though i didn’t do it, because i, well, others have nothing to do with it and did it. uh, such a wonderful young playwright. polina babushkina here, by the way, i graduated from literary works named after gorky. i will do beautiful with toning and the performance turned out i remember my feelings very well, and borodin , well, as it were, he did not attract me to this work. there is not a rehearsal, did not call anywhere. that is, this work is still different. it will be more or less separate from you. in the sense of no, it is based on everything there. well, that was their job. i remember that they called me. just me guys. today there will be a run there, come yes, and i was very worried. here's what it will look like. here are my heroes on the stage, and when i only have this it all started. i had a complete feeling that i was in some kind of fairy tale, because it

was so cool done. yes , this is different than my novel. emphasis can be placed differently there, but, in principle, the heroes of the dramaturgy the atmosphere of time and the echo with our time. very interesting, yes, and the disputes that my heroes are on stage, yes, and the eternal themes of love, such as the loss of innocence, it really is such a total loss of innocence, but in every sense of the word. yes, this is such a growing up going beyond the circle. everything is clear. after all, it is very easy to live in a world where absolutely everything is clear, clear. and so it is disturbing and strange, yes, and my hero, as it were, is brought up. yes, there is still such a very important point, what, and when does he enter the novel of education? yes, a very important point. well, in the novel, he is also in uh in the play on the stage, and he sets the entrance exams and scores very low . in general, there are appeals, allegedly he submits such, in general, he rewrites all this

story makes him enter, but in fact he has 17 points, and the passing mark is 24 and the idea of ​​\u200b\u200bmy novel and the idea of ​​\u200b\u200bthe performance that he must quickly get all these points in order to study and now they put him in a room, here in the smartest guys , which should form it. moreover, neither one nor the other is aware of this , and he looks at them from them , here are the enemies of soviet power, what they go and tell and they look at brezhnev in front of him. well, how about an idiot? and a snitch, but at some point he starts to learn from them, uh they learn from him, but do not mechanically take from them the fact of the matter is that there is an interaction. yes, of course, here the whole thing doesn’t take something right, it would be right, it would be right to build it. uh, well, such a series, uh, maybe the phantasmagoric students of trifonov’s colleague, aksyonova and finally, the recent roman alexander of the arkhangelsk bureau, verification is all uh roman and students about people who go through this kind of initiation,

yes, when the time is uh, the context is superimposed on those sciences that are taught and turned out, that the main thing is not science and the main thing is absolutely true. yes, no matter how i thought, but probably, if it was, well, nothing, the important thought is that here is pavel and his roommates, as it were. they are antagonists. they start with the fact that they are in conflict, but then they still find a common language, they still agree on something. i think this is very important for no, for our time. yes, yes, we must learn to negotiate and respect someone else's point of view. so even if you don't agree with her, we should just be able to talk to each other. friend. i love how the novel ends, i think. i made a mistake with the monogamous. pavlik thought with tenderness, looking at the pinocchio and it looks like this girl. mom is not busy. it's such a beautiful good ending. i uh hope you have many more books in both biography and prose genre we are waiting for them.

thank you so much for today's conversation. alexei varlamov was with us today, a wonderful prose writer and, uh, a documentary filmmaker. i wish new books and productions and i say, as usual, read with pleasure. thank you. hello there. i am pilot cosmonaut anton scalers. my guest today is evgeny boris kuznetsov, venture investor, co-founder of the venture funderatome, futurist , colonization of the moon, exploration of mars, construction of new objects in space. today we will talk about modern projects and plans, how realistic they are. well, the first question for you is eugene . tell us about your activities and how it is connected with space. of course, i’m far away, but , unfortunately, i didn’t

manage to visit space in the literal sense . bye bye i hope so bye yes, ah, but it so happened that one way or another, almost all life is connected with space. so. uh, as at first, as scientists i wanted to study in space, but the last few years have been about 15 years. i am engaged in evening investments. venture investments are investments in technology. moreover, technologies that are just emerging. that is, it’s still too early to talk about them, as it were, but in contrast, here it ’s just right. and it so happened that cosmos got into the sphere of venture investments, just the last 10-15 years. well, from that moment as the first investors invested in valonomask in bezos and in others, as well as large well-known companies. over the past 10 years, venture investments in space have already become quite an active trend; already several thousand companies have been invested. and there i was looking at the latest data, more than 270 billion dollars were uttered to these companies

and the sphere of private space. it can be said that they have taken place, that is, they have already, and in terms of price-quality ratio, they are even ahead of the classic projects created. well, they compete at the same level, then they compete, of course, very fine. that's why, through this prism, through this here, access to venture deals. i look at what is happening, that is, ah, what is the meaning of venture capital investments - you invest a little money now in a company, and then it develops and becomes big and big in 10 years. and now you see what you are investing in, so it was there literally 10 years ago. when i told you about some things about space investments in russia, they were somehow very skeptical about it there, for example, the space internet or something something. and now it is already clear that this is a major industry that has taken place, so when i look now, what is it investing in now. i can also look with some confidence at what will happen in 5-10 years. uh, never with 100% unfortunately,

getting married is always a huge amount of risk. that's why venture. that is there even to say that most of the companies are invested. she doesn't take off. it's a common story, but the ones that take off they bring in enough money to make up for it all you invest, uh, money, look for uh projects, which are of general interest to you. eh, were there? russian projects that you yes you know to invest. we are in our time. it was back in the fourteenth year, together with the agency for strategic initiatives. i then worked at the russian venture company, which launched the so -called national technology initiative. this is such a program to find and support promising startups in russia, and we have created several working groups there. one of those working groups. uh, spaces.net. just about space, by the way, sergey zhukov is there, but he runs everything here, for sure, you know, yes, here and uh, hmm we looked,

well, quite a few dozens, if not hundreds of russian startups, and some of them, uh, are still of great interest. i uh in a few uh, almost invested of them, but just an investment process. it is always such that there is a lot to go through the stages of phases and the deal does not always converge, but here are some that i still look at, for example, communication. with ground infrastructure, because it will always be needed, and so on. well, here from the number of such startups that i liked the most. it was here, for example, and a related startup. uh, with organ printing in space 3d bioprinting. this is a startup made by yusuf, hissuani is a cool startup, and he flew to orbit if i'm not mistaken in the eighteenth year, and they were printing. uh, the pancreas, or rather, the thyroid gland of a mouse, was successfully printed and returned to earth, in general, it was a very interesting story that the americans were in a hurry to do it too. and there was a

real race, who would be the first to launch a 3d printer and the first launch was unsuccessful, but they made it in time because the rocket exploded. yes, yes, yes, here. but they are, because the printers refused. no. no, it's because of the rocket. yes, but the next one did not have time, which means that we were still the first. yes, this is such a provocative question. why do we need 3d bioprints in space ? everyone is looking for them. what unique goods can be made in space, because, well, a completely different medium is expensive to fly and so on, uh, organ printing, just one of these areas, because well, let's take the heart, for example, and it jelly has a lot of air in it 3d printer. how does it work, it prints layer after layer, if it prints on the ground, uh, this layer will then the cells will fall, and it will not print a hollow organ, or you need to put some kind of substrate, then it’s difficult to take it out somehow, but in weightlessness such a problem. no, he can lay out cell after cell until he has built such a complete organ, and the heart

will be quite capable already. well, this is now all a debatable story, because, and everyone is looking for, and in space it is some kind of a way to produce something, then life is important, what cannot be produced on earth is now microelectronics biology pharmaceuticals. after space became more accessible, now a lot has rushed. eh, to set up such experiments and everyone is waiting for such a blockbuster that it will be profitable to produce there and for this it is already possible to build industrial large stations. that is , it turns out that we are harmful to people in space. well, weightlessness yes, unfortunately, it has a detrimental effect on the human body. we're looking at how to reverse it, yeah as far as i know, the direction we are moving out of weightlessness is really very much now, but there are many questions in medicine. but this, uh, you probably know better, and at least, there were various kinds of discussions . unfortunately, so far, materials, for example, that a number of tumors in weightlessness behave differently,

maybe even better amenable to therapy, and so on. that is, everyone is looking for such an uh option to find, and plus weightlessness they minus evgeny and now what kind of domestic projects do you support, now we are investing in stop projects related to artificial intelligence, eh? or with such a new energy, such as energy based on electric vehicles there, and so on. that is what is now very rapidly developing. by the way, we have one of our projects connected. uh with robots, uh, that can do their job without special programming. it 's a very cool story, because programming usually takes the most, uh, labor. it is very long and expensive. here is every movement of the robot to program, and such a robot, right under the drawing, everything can do and it turns out that he does. it's like a man in speed and better than a man in quality. that's just in space. i think such robots will find all applications, because there will now have to build a lot of objects. what do you think, when e will come, the moment when e will be created in space

industrial structure, that is, we will produce it on an industrial scale. do you know? and it seems to me that we are very close to this, but because space exploration has historically. in my opinion there were two problems. one problem is the ability to do something. that is, well, to put enough material into orbit to make something large and for a long time, it was expensive, but now there is a sharp reduction in price, and the cost of delivering cargo to orbit, that is, almost 10 times, also happened and perhaps more 10 times before the end of the decade. and, of course, this greatly facilitates the ability to throw into the orbit, there are cargo, people, and so on, and on the other hand, when we solve the problem of opportunities, the problem of need arises. what to do in orbit? what is all this for? and before, this was such a problem, chickens and eggs, and the absence of the first led to the fact that the second did not develop, that is, it is still expensive. why experiment, but now, when delivery becomes cheap,

and an explosion begins right away, and attempts to do different experiments. here are a lot of startups, including russian ones, they offer to make semi-autonomous laboratories that can be put into orbit and there to experiment something back to earth and see what happens. for example, china they picked one technology that we didn’t develop e. chris was taken to orbit and their crops grew well after that, therefore, it’s quite possible that what used to be such bold experiments will once become just like this here is a routine task there to use space. seven features for some technologies. here. uh, now it’s hard to say when all these two trajectories will converge into one, because cheaper prices will require another 10 years there are 15 jobs. but the search for cost- effective production in space will also take, probably, somewhere the same 10-15 years, so everyone looks at somewhere in the thirties-thirty-fifth year, as the year of such a big breakthrough, when it will already be clear how build a

large orbital station and understandable. why build it? i took tomato seeds with me. uh-huh and uh, i was told that these tomatoes were still at mir station, they were scanned there for half a year or about a year. i exhibited for another six months and it turned out that peeled tomatoes are much better much more resistant than those that are the same seeds from the same family that were on the ground. yes, it’s great to turn our attention to our closest celestial body, the moon, what do you think, we need in the exploration of the moon, you know, it seems to me that now it’s very important to talk about the moon and aspire to it, because and if earlier it was exclusively such a political ambitious task. whoever sticks the first flag, there and so on, now it turns out that the moon is a key element in further space exploration. the thing is that really, no matter how much we reduce the cost of launches from the ground. all the same , you need a huge amount of cargo, but in space you can somehow get it from somewhere, and the cargo is in

the simplest, for example, and water, for example, is the same oxygen, and the same metal is diverse there from iron to titans and so further and haul their lands. it will still be expensive in space. all this is there, and everything is on the moon, but the launch of the moon is worth it, well, it is much cheaper there is already much less fuel. well, that is, a huge rocket takes off from the earth, and a small landing module takes off from the moon. there, uh, there is 1/6 of gravity. here, it seems that gravity is six times less, and the fuel needed there is ten times less, that is, it is much easier to do it there, especially since lunar fuel. maybe the same water split into hydrogen. and here you have the engine e filled up and it turns out that the moon is turning into a serious infrastructure facility. there you can extract fuel, you can extract vital substances, you can extract metals, deliver all this to the orbit and because of this already assemble large structures, well, of course, there are complex electronics. some materials will need to be transported from the ground, but some supporting

trusses, and some kind of e-shields protected there so that meteors do not break through, all this can be transported with the moon. you are talking about water, yes, which on the moon, as far as i know, has not been proven to have water there, but on the moon a a, perhaps in two forms, the first is classic ice, and now there are a lot of experiments going on, including chinese americans are trying to find these ice deposits, primarily in polar craters where the sun never looks, and there, quite possibly, ice, water has been preserved in its original form, in general cosmic e, substance, it has even been brought to the ground by comets by and large, but this is a hypothesis. and what we know for sure is that in the lunar soil of regalite, water is contained simply in the form, well, hydroxides and everything else, that is, it is contained in the form of minerals. from these minerals. it is quite possible to extract it in russia, by the way, there is a wonderful laboratory in the mission. a-ah, who learned to extract water from e, just here is regalite and

similar substances. right now just around there is a race going on, that is, who will be able to get the first, and water from the regalite, first of all , weightlessness, and secondly, without involving any earthly energy, that is, using either solar energy or some kind of electricity, obtained from solar panels. here is the first one who will receive, consider that he has received, uh, the opportunity to move on to the industrial production of water on the moon, that is, we have already begun to talk about lunar bases. yes, what do you think, what problems will we face, well, i between humanity at building a lunar base. well we all know the problems you know them, better than me it is, of course, another gravity and radiation primarily there, and we are not protected by the atmosphere with a very weakly protected magnetic field, that is, there are very harmful conditions. well, there are many very specific problems on the moon, for example, this is the famous moon dust, which has the ability to crawl

absolutely everywhere a and it is unlike our dust. e. she never weathered earthly dust. it is so smooth, but micro -particles are smooth, and everything is spicy there. that there is, when it sits on the skin, it scratches there, it’s very hard, yes, that is, it’s all very hostile. a pleasant environment and how a person can survive there for a long time is not just to fly there for a couple of days, then back. eh, how to catch my breath to cross myself, and that's it. it 's all over, but how it flies away for a year, even in orbit, it's hard to spend a year, and on the moon there with everyone without problems. but unless gravity will be a little easier, so now everyone is discussing. how to build these space bases? well, one thought must be somehow buried deeper, so that the rocks protect you from er, looking for caves. yes, yes, yes, yes much easier. yes, absolutely exactly. but there are options, for example, with construction. i've seen such projects, including russian ones, here, but at samara university. uh, there was a

project done to 3d print building blocks from religion, meaning they grind it up. then they return it directly from what you take under your feet and make heat blocks. well , that's where you need it. water because you need to somehow hold the heat together, but i don’t know there details and technologies, but surely water will be needed, a and now from them to put together some kind of houses, structures, and so on, then you need to build large fields of solar batteries. and how will they work there? the winds are good there. no, but the dust still sometimes takes off, how it settles, how to wash it; there are a million technically very everyday questions, but astronauts are probably in orbit. they also solved not only scientific problems, but also a lot of everyday issues. i remember, for example, the task of physical loads in space. she, too, was not immediately solved, she was solved for a long time, so that an adequate load of problems would not become, yes or solve. how to decide? yes, yes, yes, that's why the moon, it 's as good as a goal, but when you get to it, there are a million problems to arise, so it's a must

to try it with your hands. why is the question that it is necessary to fly, be sure to set up a base there. well, we’ll continue to solve problems as they arise, for example, when they start building the base, as it were, well, i hope that the base is soldered before the thirtieth year will literally be here. 7 years, well, technically , this is probably already now, that is, there are rockets that can reach the moon. uh, first base is like that. well, how to say a trial one, it can be quite similar in design to an orbital station, that is, from the same modules. well, there might be something to cover it up. this is a technical issue. but already there, when such a base appears. now the experiments of building everything else and so on will begin. well, to build a base and then mine industrial production. uh, well, the resources that are just in the bowels of the moon will need other astronauts. they are like i know astronaut geologist, yes astronaut driller astronaut who manages the robotic system, who

will, uh, recycle send it to some i don’t know, probably a new training center. astronauts are needed specifically for that. well, i think that all the same, the main cosmonauts are not an earthly profession, but cosmic. profession, that is, the ability to survive stress, the ability to find solutions to any problem. it seems to me that the main thing in an astronaut. so, as for the basic specialties, you need to prepare there already. e people who understand the dialogue? well, you absolutely rightly noticed that the main thing, perhaps, the competence will be the ability to work with robots. they are progressing incredibly fast. that is, as a person investing in robots, i can say that there is phenomenal progress, that is, robots are becoming very smart, but in a literal sense, that is, here is the news of the last month that a robot already communicates with people in such a way, that people just don't understand who they're talking to anymore , and hmm, they're getting just as smart at engineering tasks. that is, they can solve a lot of issues. there is no need to program on the spot. he'll

figure it out quite well. what to do? therefore, i think that by the time we bring our space technology to the ability to build a base on the moon, then the robots that will eat there themselves will drill themselves. there will be no problems at all. space is like, they say, astronauts, a separate culture and even a culture of thinking, so you need to somehow in this direction, too, but to move, because if earlier it was all theories and arguments about the distant future in galaxies far, far away, now these are already business plans. that is, now, if you want to have in the thirtieth year, uh, at least a part of a broken base on the moon, you need to design it right now. yesterday, for example, yes, yes, pawn money. yes, yes, well, as an example, and now the energy revolution is developing very rapidly. one of its elements is a hydrogen cell, that is, hydrogen hydrogen, as hydrogen fuel there are cells for cars for some kind of chemistry , and so on for all these industrial ones. uh, products need dresses, and platinum on earth

is very limited. we all know it because it will be dear because it is not enough, but i don’t know if platinum is needed there, let’s say 10 times more, if it’s in the current. the market to apply such a demand for its value flies up to 10 times up and the economy will never converge, but last year the first experiment was undertaken. i don't really know the results yet, because i think the launch has been delayed. it will probably happen this year. but they first tried on the compatriots by trying to extract platinum because of the building substance. this is what the americans want to do. eh, experiment. if it succeeds, then, uh, how to say missions tuned to the moon for rare substances will become the norm. but in general, we have a very interesting object from the point of view of geology, various constructions fell into it . and when an asteroid hits. he just scatters all the substances there. well, their nipples are literally there, digging there a little bit. it went down a meter. and so i lived went and now the main question is how

can quickly scout because that's the very law. in the same place, who was the first to fly from that place of birth. by the way, this will be a separate interesting question. someone will find a deposit, a station will be set up, someone will fly in and set up nearby. nothing answers. the corporation together, yes, it doesn’t forbid, it’s directly very interesting. it just sort of regulates. well. a japanese billionaire flew to me for 12 days, and he said that he had already paid for the ticket in the first crew that would fly. well, he will fly around the moon , that is. here he works as a sauna mask for you the next project is no longer roskosmos, but on a nasalemsk, yeah. what are the prospects for tourism there? what do you know about investing money, i , uh, i confess for a long time treated space tourism as well, such a frivolous fun. well, like, some billionaires spend money, but lately my position has begun to change, firstly, as the industry develops, there is a fairly

significant price reduction, that is. well, if we do not talk about today, but about the end of the decade there, then, in principle, it will, of course, be very, very expensive tourism. well, yes, for us, yes for ordinary people, but it will be comparable to expensive types of tourism on earth. that's why space tourism becomes available second. i am very encouraged that there is quite a lot of work going on to find medical expediency for being in zero gravity or in conditions of reduced gravity. so far, everyone is looking at the cosmos as risks. well, that is, here is radiation, low gravity degradation is not for a person, as a dangerous environment and open, we say lord yes, but, uh, now they are looking for some reasons to still hang out in this environment. you probably know there was a completely famous experiment. vince american. yes, they didn’t launch the twins, and one twin spent 7 days in orbit, and the other spent, in my opinion, 450. yes,

yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, you know that, and then they compared the length of the body of the world - these are such terminal sections of dna that are responsible for its ability to divide without errors and as the glue divides. in our body, these sections are shortened, and when it becomes very short, the cell stops dividing. uh, aging and dying, and it turned out that an astronaut flying in orbit. uh, these telomeres are longer than those of someone who flew in vain, and telomere lengthening is one of the proven ways to prolong life, health, and so on, it is clear that, probably, the dangers of flying into space, for now, these benefits greatly outweigh, but who knows, and at least before it was such rather exotic entertainment. and now quite a lot of experiments. that is, now it is necessary to study the mouse to fly to the iss. but quite a few companies are now doing semi-autonomous module. it

launched this mouse. she chatted there for a week, went down to you. yes, yes, or a fly, yes, and looked what happened to her there, that is, with a sharp increase in the availability of space. i hope that a lot of new medical reasons will appear. and now, if the cosmos turns into a therapeutic justified procedure. then it will be a completely different conversation, well, i can say for myself, i have some pressure. e normal on earth, sometimes 130 140. and that is, this is such a call to my doctors. they watch everything it's clear. but in space, for half a year , this is always how an astronaut should have 120. i can say this for sure, it's great. here is great news. here is for us cosmonauts e. the moon is presented as such a platform in order to work out our landing systems, well, let's say landings in general, this is our goal now is not the moon. astronauts have a goal of mars so that a person can land there to work, take some samples and return. well, everything, just as it

was historically difficult in your opinion, what awaits us beyond the moon is mars. in general, do you need to go to mars, you know? this is a very interesting question. e, to which there is no definite answer. he keeps changing this answer. in fact, i understood the history of space financing. this is also a very important issue. no, there is no money and no flights. yes, yes, and mars at one time played a little evil service, because, as it were, when they began to talk about mars, a lot of questions began to arise. and why do we need mars and at that time there were no answers. that is, the americans flew to the moon. they were late for courage, a to be the first to go into space. they had to prove something. yes, and they spent the return, smart money, the most expensive, scientific program in the history of mankind, in order to fly first on courage, and now, when they did not fly first to the moon and their own accountants there, there are senators to the north. well , okay. you guys have landed. so what is next. why do you need march? got it? from there, by the way,

they had more flights. yes, these apolos are planned. that is, there are not 18, there are 17. yes, but there were much more and they really stopped because they ran out of money and further. and what is there to do next? again vysyknut again? yes, we already jumped and rode rover a. indeed, this is a historical fact and here it is. to me this question had no answers so that the answer was. well here's the classic that humanity needs to push the boundaries of achievable, which is yes. mars is simply the closest planet. maybe there is nothing interesting in it, but after it we can move further in the solar system. well, sometimes, and when i sit some claire, some ministry of finance, he watches it. like this and says, well, guys, i understand everything , you want to figure it out, but we don’t have money and starts with a conversation. and i came across not only with accountants, but also, you know, with such political activists who, for example, say, “but why do you spend money on this because people get sick.” we have a climate here, that is, there is always enough water.

we have on earth. uh, there are, uh, a lot of problems, when you can spend your billions of dollars, and therefore for a very long time mars just played a bad role for astronautics, because he did not explain in any way. why are we we spend this money, then a mask appeared, he came up with a completely crazy idea. he said so you know. you can ruin the earth, but humanity will survive on mars, and oddly enough, this, uh, responded, because as we see people, for example, with the climate. the same can screw up a little. and therefore, indeed, yes, ecology, yes, therefore, to screw up from the planet and, as it turns out, it is possible, and even then human life will be cut short , people will disappear, as a species, you need to have some kind of alternate airfields. and here on this crazy idea suddenly passed, but because that somehow people thought about the truth really. why not? let's get some pennies, well, we 'll spend some billion dollars there. but we will have an alternate

airfield, and therefore i can say that if we take pure economic models, i still look at this problem not so much as a romantic only to a financier, yes, in terms of money, mars is not very good yet needed on mars there is almost nothing that is not on the earth, the moon or asteroids, but plus still there is gravity more than on the moon, that is, you need to launch from there to extract fuel there, therefore, by the way, the environment is aggressive there, and they are slightly aggressive. yes, there are no radiation belts there, er, there, in my opinion, this is almost more than the radiation of the moon. that is, there, as it were, not a very good place, it turns out that mars is still in question. but the moon, on the contrary , immediately acquired many advantages, because, firstly, it is closer, secondly, they have everything we need and thirdly, if we really want to fly to mars, then let's not launch from the earth there are eight launches there or six. older to deliver the required amount of fuel to orbit to fly to mars. and let's deliver the same amount of fuel from the moon in one launch,

and instead of six launches, you will have two launches, one in the earth, one lunar. and now you are already on mars , the economy immediately suddenly acquires. e meaning, and therefore in my some personal kind. i think that we will first begin to explore the moon and near-earth asteroids, because they are from the point of view. here is the extraction of resources, of course, very sugary. but mars is more likely in my understanding. he still further, that is, mars it seems to me that i need it as an intermediate point in order to fly even further, because here are really interesting from the point of view of both science and possible some other stories, for example, the lunar jupiter, because there is, perhaps, life in the underwater oceans. there is very interesting geology. there is something completely different, and the environment in general in the world is now beginning to emerge like this. the concept that we are building, as it were , in order to develop the oceans, it is necessary to build ports in order to develop the land. necessary

build railways, that is, you need to create an infrastructure, and then, when you have a railway, then you can already mine there, what you need to build to the city, anything. no, the railroad. all the same logistics. yes , that's why everyone now looks at space as a logistics platform in this sense, the moon is like a port where substances are mined. you need to hang all sorts of stations too at the point or vibration. there, in different orbits, so that they exchange substances with each other there, there, and so on, asteroids pull up, that is, this already applies to such, as it were, to a large construction site. i also take a pragmatic approach. the economy is already there. you can also count there. there's a billion here and there billions. this is already beginning to interest people through seriously, you know, let's fantasize. wow, 60 years ago. we launched the first man into space 50 years old, go ahead. how do you see man in space in general? here i am. to such bone optimists, that is, i am sure that in the next 20 years, the basic infrastructure of the earth moon asteroids

will be built. ah, mars, i guess. the next 20 years, but if we talk about fifty years, i think on the scale of the solar system. mankind will become a cosmic species. that is, as it is now called, that is, we will learn there. well, if you don’t live, then spend enough time there, jobs will appear there, rest homes will appear there, and everything else, in principle, once again, this does not prevent us from doing anything right now, except for the economy. that is, we have not yet learned how to make money in space . but we are now very actively learning this. here the americans in this sense are very people, a how to say, straightforward and to them a very important element of the show, uh, how would they always understand that, uh, for something to be, and attractive, it must be very beautiful. and so they came up with this beauty, uh, published a report. and i was so indirectly indirectly related to this, therefore, i know this

story, and the report on the cost of asteroids in the large asteron belt and and so that everyone is just finally there all these sheikhs there are chinese and billionaires of american millions to finally dispossess kulak they hung such a figure that the cost general asteroid belt. this is approximately 10,000,000 dollars. how to present it? i will now simplify this a little bit, and only one astroyat psyche, which is supposedly a fragment of the planet's core, and therefore it consists of the same metals, including platinum from gold. here it is worth 10 quadrillion dollars, and a quadrillion is a trillion billion. i mean , it's so much that it's enough to catch him. and that's it. yes, just fly a little digging, and everything is already richer than anyone on earth. and naturally. this is nothing more than such a myth, but it is already something practical. that is, if it dangles in space, such a stone really dangles, which costs

more than the whole earth, well, or at least all economies, then this is already a business. at least, i know for sure that since the publication of this report in morgensteil bank america, the number of investors in space has increased dramatically, and including from non-american ones . , that is, a lot of money and think where to spend it, a you know there is a lot of such old money in the world that needs big projects, that is, here is some sheikh who has 80 billion in his account there. and here he is 80 billion. well , where can he place them on the stock exchange, but this is too much . if he warps later, he wants something interesting to show off to other sheikhs, and there are hundreds of such investors in the world. for example, in america it was calculated that out of fifty billionaires. here is the top 15 list invested in space, so here are all these stories, they are they look funny with such enticements, but they

really, but rocked this story very much, but i have another on this topic. yes, such a joke. i love her so much. here. what do you think, and some product brought from america after its colonization of the discovery by europeans most of all influenced e. history, i don't know. usually they answer that silver well, because when spain was looking for silver, it became the richest country in europe. no, there was. that's the gold rush. there, well, they transported absolutely more silver in quantities there was no gold, yes, but in fact, uh, spain, this silver was not of much use. she was two centuries old. there are three of the richest countries in europe and then, when the silver ended, and bang and it turned out like a house of cards, and the most, and the product that influenced the history was her potato, when they brought it, they didn’t understand at all what to do with it, because they thought that, probably,

you need to eat what has grown from above, but about the courage in russia, when peter the story was exactly like this, they planted it and fed it and fed it like food for pigs and thought that well, this kind of useless. well, such a moderately useful plant for pigs to paint flowers. yes, flowers. yes, so far, it means that the dutch are not the first and have learned here. there are tubers that peter tried to infect, or rather , it was not the dutch who first learned the germans, there was the thirty years' war and there was a terrible famine. in the same place, in my opinion, a quarter of the population of germany died from war and famine, and they began to take food from the pigs, and they suddenly saw that the tubers were delicious. why when you come to germany they have classic salads? yes, because for them potato yes potatoes - this is what saved them and made germany the most rapidly developing nation in terms of the number of people, that is, in terms of growth rates, germany grew exponentially and here are the

potatoes, she gave. here is an influx of uh, calories into european food. after that, europe began to grow explosively in numbers, began to spread to all continents , created economic growth, and so on. i mean, uh, what does it mean that we don't always know? why are we going, that is, the spaniards went to america for gold. and most of all the story was influenced by potatoes that were brought by accident, so we don't know that in space we think there is gold. well, even now we do not know, we know that there is gold and there we do not know nickel or maybe there is something that we do not know, but that will affect our history, like potatoes. we do not know this, but on this positive and good note. i propose to end our conversation today. i am convinced that we have something else to talk about, and we will do it in the future. thank you for coming and telling a lot interesting even to me, a person who works in the space industry was very

interested in communicating with you. thank you i love turquoise royal ones. this is from those times, this is still india. yes, they put me on turquoise there. this is a big one without turquoise at all, i don’t remember. that's never and it somehow suits you. uh, well, it stuck, because you want it, but it turned out to be my stone, it didn’t want mine at all, it will emerald, you understand, but turquoise has become some kind of talisman and the color is absolutely amazing, so i really like it. oh, i'll introduce you, and katya is my guest the christmas daughter of the brilliant soviet poet robert rozhdestvensky well, who doesn’t know, suddenly you speak beautifully somehow, brilliant so i think that it’s absolutely

brilliant yes, absolutely brilliant sister with ksyusha is the subject of study by psychologists all over the world, that is, psychologists do not have it, because now what is the main topic of parental family without dad. mom's dislike, this is enmity, hatred, and so on. i always looked at you, but i knew each other. e, with mother of the kingdom of heavenly fat. that's how it is when they're just a complete mom and dad family to me. this is binom newton, i can’t even imagine. how is it when mom and dad parents love children. children absolutely adore their parents and not that they bow down. well, it's just love, but spasms and at the same time, parents who love each other madly from the first day they met and to the grave.

is that how it is, how to live in such an atmosphere? kat i can't imagine. well, it's probably some kind of anomaly lived. i have not seen and never met. it seems to me, yes, it seems that i have not seen, especially these are the relationships that mom and dad have, tell me, did you always understand. that's what you always knew. that you are a happy girl, or because she did not know another life. and yes, moreover, star guests house a full bowl, but beautiful things. dad brings. e from business trips to you some beautiful sister. mom loves grandma. and here it always smells delicious at home and there is no need to stand in lines there for bananas. here it is, how is it possible to live like this? well, how are you it was possible, but i hated everyone. i generally hated people when i was little, because they took away time

from communicating with my parents. i adored my parents so much that, uh, every visit of some kind of non-voznesensky stew hmm kobzon magomayev turned me into a wild animal and crawled under the table , a lot of people remembered me under the table. there are teenagers there 10-11 years old. and at school you were n't slandered. no, well, you see, how cool, how happy. you look, because all children develop a trifle marina just e change marina e teachers for the fact that i wore there e boots-stockings, do you remember there were some things there for me they were forbidden to wear them. and so uh, well , for some reason they forced me to have an a in literature . well, of course, you remember, uh, and all the wishes of all the elements addressed to you from dad. and in general, everything, because you are doing it, because your legacy, which you treat with such trepidation. so carefully and

popularize, and i know what kind of birthday parties you arrange for dad. well, in general cool but congratulations on the twentieth anniversary, if you will, of course. we won't be today our katyukha, over 20 years old, began to frown. my daughter and i are suffering and want to continue to suffer, i will show you how it looked, in kind. i took this sheet. i think that such things that are handmade are much more important. that's what it is, you know, there was a suspicion somehow you don’t cry. i don't understand, i've never had anything like this in my life. you know, i have all the tears inside, they go all inside. i don’t let them out, otherwise i would be all the time in general, when, well, they read letters of correspondence, here are scarlet roberts i always want cry. well, there is, from what we really have, i just, probably, some kind of vaccination has already been formed, and since i relaxed me in this, this is not surprising. so

it was supposed to be somewhere, you know, on the day of the 20th birthday, when ksyusha was born 12 12 years old. i know that when alla became pregnant, she came to her room with a question. eh, requests for advice to give birth to yourself to take to your sister or not to give birth? and you said leave. i said a very adult phrase. let's leave it, but at the same time i also asked to think a little, probably for kind, but i really wanted to, in my opinion, they were very adults. yes, where do children come from? and what is pregnancy anyway? i knew how to get away, and i was very well versed in the sexual issue, because, and dad's mother was a doctor and i plowed in her medical library, i knew everything, thoroughly mesmerized me. here are these atlases, and then, probably, guests came, and, well, such a creative elite, uh, which they don’t really choose and not very selectively, so to speak, yes. communicating with each other

is not filtered, as they say today from the text, and you, of course, warmed your ears under the table and everywhere you understood everything, who was with whom? who why who why who is cheating on whom no lar not even bones, but another grandmother but of my mother's line, which is lidka. she was with me in front of the dancer, so that's all. here are all these abortions, all these novels. well, that's all, it was always said at the table with their girlfriends, who came to us for 100 years or not, there, no, i thought that this education was absolutely right, i recognized it not by the fence, who also heard it somewhere, and from the first mouth and sticky could give advice. and in general, it was just such a chic university. god bless every child. ah, it was like that. that was the time of freedom in the sixties, uh, which, like

now, we, too, well, in the nineties zero did not know what to do with this freedom in the sausages or on television, and in the theater and everywhere did not know what to do with it. and now, when this otish from this year, everyone was produced with their wives and husbands, everyone had five romanovs. where to draw inspiration from? yes if they are in someone else's bed, not with a new love and so on. tell me how your parents are, but mom served dad, of course, but dad, where did he draw inspiration from. how can one wife never change, and not look the other way, what he ate, if a musician, i don’t know there a composer, a poet, an actor will not torment his e, soul this dual life, so that no one would know, i love there. where to draw? where does dad get food from, due to which yours, due to alla alone, she

enveloped him so much and gave him so much that he didn’t needed nothing when it happens at first a lot, but i just think that he was monogamous. here is a very rare copy. e in human life. he had his first wife, with whom he lived for a couple of months. it was the grandmother who introduced her to her daughter to some front-line friends, but he realized that this was not at all what he was looking for and went to the casting institute, where he entered somewhere. e did not enter. yes, because he seemed to be not very talented, so he went to petrozavodsk where he studied for one year at the historical one and returned and just i arrived at the same time and in the same place where kireeva was smoking her cigarettes in a smoking-room somewhere on the stairs. well, everything, all the destinies have grown together like childhood, it seems that they experienced the same ones. and the same emotions suffered because of the divorce of their parents. i even have. so

tell me, how is it? well, everything, very, very much. yes, it seemed that alyonushka really called her from the first second of their acquaintance at all, alyonushka and taking ivanushka at first there were different names, but always diminutive. dear, dear alyonushka, for the first time in 40 years i send you a letter from the second floor of our dacha to the first floor, so the time has come. for a long time i thought to give a little to this, i still do not believe our common anniversary, and then i saw a three-volume book standing on the shelf. and i even laughed with joy and gratitude to you all morning making bookmarks to those verses that already in the fifty-first year, one way or another, there are so many of them that it’s even terrible joyfully, so i made another common big bookmark. at the end of the third volume, you yourself are the author of almost

everything that i wrote, but here is the most recent 40 long years and instant years. you are my destiny, my everlasting light is in your soul an eternity of height in the world and you exist in me. you, so without you knowing, for sure, i would not have lived these forty. i kiss your be, but it's impossible. this is impossible. this is impossible. it's just not the point of the beach in a relationship. it 's an ellipsis exclamation mark - it's all that a asking mark - it's anything. he was already more and quite rarely went down. and here it is on the day of the circus of their wedding. he wrote. here is this letter, which is incredible, which even if mom got it, it would be in a year. just as amazing as 40 years after their

life together. it's such a holiday. this is such a firework of relationships of feelings, that's why i say that they are, uh, amazing in this regard, such a mystical story, which is incredible to believe but friends. i know it's not a writer. and why are you so straight, like a sleeper, what is there and you say that you are not very good either. you love all these underwater ones, and alla went to his cemetery, smoked and talked to him. all time and now some time passes, and she walks a telegram, but in some miraculous way, sent by robert to his wife and lost in the papers. and here is the text. you remember, i liked safely. all is well. don't worry. i love to be you. well , i really found it every day in any weather, i came to this old cemetery in peredelkino, smoked it and the cigarette went back. i think she's crazy. hmm

crazy because it was so stubborn. this was a necessary movement for her both physically and mentally, and my sister and i are very we were worried that something like that was happening there, then one day everything seemed to disappear. she told you everything, and on the one hand, i am an unusually happy woman, because i lived in love, and on the other hand , i am unhappy, because robert is gone, and i can not be with anyone. i can't look in the wrong direction . no, she did not look in that direction to look, but she did not have enough to look for. that's what happened with the father those relationships and those feelings there was no life without him. yes, absolutely nothing. and now that robert is gone, i'm anchoring myself for that we spoke so little, but we understood each other and without words it was wonderful to be silent with him. i do not want to say that we were saints, small temptations happened in life.

we were still alive. i was blind, i didn’t see that robert needed me, with all my problems and complexes, and only me, and it seemed to me that around every corner , robert’s rival was not only anyone, but also a very faithful knight every day. i heard. alka i love you. and it's hmm , i can't say that it surprised me. it was a daily routine. i remember myself as a little girl, when i looked up at these two giants at my parents, who are embracing, or, uh, my father couldn’t get past my mother at all, they touched her, they didn’t kiss, they didn’t whisper something in her ear. and then i was surprised, i did not hear. they were very high under the ceiling that he whispered and then, when they lifted me up in their arms, and the three of us stood embracing like that, and i heard that he

says those words that need to be said, only she usually absolutely, but so necessary alyonushka, my dear, beloved, probably said to every woman there. and of course, his eyes were wet, goosebumps ran down his skin, and she said that she was jealous of robert and that she was a beauty, but a little overweight, she was disposed to be overweight, and you know, she competed with these whore girls who were fidgety and not fashionable in that time, therefore, thin and to light to uh did not torment. no, she 's inside. she suffered herself, probably, but it was not so obvious, it was all the time with some kind of joke under the text from the custom , moreover, roberta, on the contrary, was embarrassed by her popularity. and well, now there is a hood and thank god there used to be cap collars. that

is, it was closed. no, he definitely knew. he was tall. i, of course, he went all the time. somehow stooping due to the fact that here he stood out among the crowd. but when they flew in from somewhere from the border. i always recognized him by his height. and that was a big plus. katya, tell me how you were as a child in general. it’s your dad who isn’t coming, because, well, all the parents of odnoklassniki get up in the morning and go to work there. and your dad locked himself in the room and sat until once at the stadium. here, tell this story. really. you understand that sometimes you want to remember something in life and nothing happens. and there are some things that fall somewhere in some kind of close drawer and you crawl out and open it and all the time it is in front of you . really. i think that he is not going, because according to the stories of schoolchildren, their parents left and worked and came in the evening and from. well, somehow it was all solid, and mine got up. grandmother made him

an omelette or porridge and went to her place in this the office was locked with a padlock, and a typewriter began to knock there. ah, and it really seemed to me that i was unlucky, because it’s not a poison, and then there was a struggle with parasites. and it was somehow doubly embarrassing and it was very unpleasant to talk about it at school. but even then it was unusually popular, it sounded on the radio and is no longer there. no, at that time no songs were heard, no history at the stadium. and i was already more understanding. i was probably about nine or 10 years old - this is the end of the 60s, when the poets occupied the stadiums, when people came to listen to them in stadiums. it was, of course, an amazing thing, mass hysteria, you can imagine the degree of spirituality, e people. yes, they were going to, well, in the center they

read their elements on this one, uh, i don’t know, and the crowds allied by heart. you specially copied by hand, because it was impossible to get. and yes, the girls made volumes with verses in a notebook in which they wrote down verses. i 'm not even talking about e polytechnic but about luzhniki and luzhniki - this is 14,000 people, and all 14,000 people. and here you are. we gathered for the first time. mom put me in the stands, and not on the ground. here is this nizhny and there are no trines, but because that's how we always sat backstage between there, well, how dad will speak. we could immediately leave the service entrance. uh, it was possible to go by car right away and leave all these convenient things. and now i don’t know, i don’t remember, dad reads the elements, forgets the line, but reads it. uh, and there are no big screens and it is not clear

what is happening, and he suddenly stammers, and i was so embarrassed for the first second, but then even through me. i found this hint buzz and all 14,000 people suggested this line. i began to turn around and looked at no one had a book, they all knew by heart for me it was such a shock, what happiness you are, and i realized that it was no accident. actually, he sits there locked himself up. this is how it often happens, but it happens until the passion passes from the parents. uh, well, listen, many couples come together out of passion and out of love, have children in love and they are so absorbed in each other that they don’t care about children and children who grow up and then turn into adults also have complexes, which they then carry through their whole lives, lack of parental love, that is, each other's adults. yes, but not for children. and how in general, where did dad scoop? where is it from? and then

we will return to his childhood and to wartime . where did he have such a powerful supply of love? allah had enough for you ksyusha for your grandmothers, whom he also adored for guests for friends. where from where from where i don’t know where from, but he’s like that i can’t say, the type of person of this type of person, probably there is not. i didn't date perfect. such a person, probably surprisingly unique and gifted to the gods, is now absolutely, understandable and they say that great things are seen at a distance, but here the distance was not needed, neither time nor distance. tell robert's parents divorced, when how many boys were they not divorced, in fact, father and mother went to the front, and father died right at

the end of the war. and when my father turned, he wandered all the time around the orphanages for all sorts, because the grandmother also died, who brought him up. yes, yes, grandmother gave my mother was a military doctor at the front. and therefore actually. he was under the supervision of the state and at the age of 14 he received a letter from his mother, what is a robot? now you're not u robert stanislavovich what was his father's name? and he has no one. as a matter of fact, i had to go cry with this, because the age is so nasty hormonal, when it is not clear where to put yourself, it is not clear what to think about. and here, yesterday, you are one person. today it is a different person with the guys. especially you won’t communicate, because they don’t have parents at all, so what

he became e christmas. the boy didn't care. who was brought up by the state, yes, he is wounded, yes, and he has such an inner delicacy. i will find the letter where he writes to his mother. how can he address his father to a new husband, where there is no resentment. and there is none. well, i do not know the anger of the complaint. yes , just like in general, of course, it is impossible to acquire a boy who is innate in whom there is so much love. i'm talking about little robert, not even a teenager yet. so much tenderness. so much respect for almost no reverence at all for a woman. but on front as he writes? hello dear, mommy got it. i have letters for which many thanks. i sent you a letter yesterday and today i am sending you as a mom, to tell you the truth, i was struck by this thing. at first i burst into tears, i don’t know why the guys who were

next to me thought that someone had been killed for them, this still remains a mystery. well, mom , i'm not a lawyer, but i walk all day today, like i'm crazy anyway. i haven't had time to think things through yet. let my mother, if it doesn't make it difficult, my new father. let them send a photograph, otherwise i don’t know her in his face, i don’t even know what to write to you for the parcel and money to you, mommy and big to him. thank you mommy kisses you tightly and i wish you all the best. your son rob answer me a question. how to call him in a letter? that 's why i didn't write it. ellipsis whole, and it's just impossible, poor boy. here, you understand, you just feel, i just suffered, how much of this tenderness of trembling is in him and not a single claim to my mother, but only with respect mommy, that's why i did not turn, because he understood that he was very capable of fortune, because she could hand it over. uh-huh

no, well, there was such a rod inside . it's absolutely that it's so out of date. now it sounds. no. yes, but he was already living his beautiful new life. no, they went there and in austria, when they settled down in karelia, he arrived there already, probably, when he had already sat down, in general, that is, he is still a wounded animal, he doesn’t care, of course, so those, probably experiences, those dreams here these dreams. i want with my mother with my mother. this is what he probably carried through his whole life. but there were no warnings. of course, because he is already special. these are today's children, this is work. so, you have never seen the time, no, years have passed , the whole war has passed, and after the war they, in my opinion, met in 40, some seventh year, or something? mom didn't pick it up right away

. no, tell me, but he took her away when she got old, and she didn’t have a widow a second time, he ’s more like her with her stepfather from e with a free brother, and bought alterations to the dacha and where they came from dnepropetrovsk they had a house dnepropetrovsk and transportation. so, then i bought an apartment in moscow and your mother never said both. well, something like that, they are not very uh, how many letters do i have left? here they are not very you, uh, nurtured the younger brothers were born and everything was attention to him. and you, in general, were on your own and now you are so much for i remember how they suffered, grandmother and mother, how they suffered, because grandma didn’t want to be there, she was very against it. eh, sala's wedding, she was very against it, and she saw me when i was only

for two years and her father wrote letters to her, very tearful plaintive tearing souls, that such a girl is funny. so you know, she's already there, she's already gone, she's already healing something there. well, why don't you come? why are you busy your life did not immediately take, uh, boy? yes, when you returned to the fruit you were your own uh, so to speak, lovingly family affairs were not born on the road. by the way, this is the story that robert did not immediately find, but the grave of his father. he did not know where he was buried. he did not know them, but it turned out that the grave, in general, is a kilometer away 10 km. well, just walking around it was a very strange, uh, story. i flew first. lives in altai where he was born in the village of kosikha, and relatives came there. e pitkevich. and then one of them told me that knowing that i was,

and that dad was looking for his father's grave. and what? i , too, was looking for them. they wrote letters everywhere, but no one could say anything, they said that it was bombed somewhere in riga, and the train, educational echelon, and now there was the preservation of brotherly magic. and i decided to go, we were resting at that time in jurmala and near riga, but it turned out what is it in general, this is the place where supposedly it was a grave and it's not a fact, was it there or not? i went there and, well, it's quite a big settlement. i think how i'm going to look for relationships here. a not very friendly girl is coming towards us. i asked right at the entrance to this village. and where is the fraternal magic here, she says, here are three steps here to go behind the house. and you look, i went there and there are many, many

stones, on which there are probably 30 small letters of stones. it's in such beautiful e trees. and i think, well, now i'll look for it all, i don't know how long it will take. i opened the first bushes, opened the written drinks first, you know, i still have frost right here. the boy has not had time to fight yet. listen to the most embarrassing. you understand that it was five minutes from jurmala where we were for 15 years, we rested there, in the summer of 15 years, which is all the same yes, yes, but when robert escorted her father to the front, he whispered in his ear, don’t come back without the order . yes, yes, so he did not come back he got. yes, on the contrary, lord, what fate is simple incredible. why didn't mom agree? why don't i think there was a jewish question, which very, uh, excited my

communist grandmother at one time, and she believed that this was an unprofitable alliance that romochka deserved? well , something more than this, uh, wonderful, that's why both my lidka and my grandmother tormented me all the time and made some gifts. i bought something for her all the time, and this humiliation has been there for many years. and now, i have this feeling that some kind of, well, not needed, not in demand, but then she, probably, was wildly proud that he was her such, of course, she collected clippings. she kept filing letters. she now married the wrong one, of course not, but it was later clear and natural. well, this is a five-year period. uh, here's the marriage before she accepted. and then not to the end, i ate it, the case has little. never said anything. she was very smart and

understood that she lives with a genius with a genius, in the first place, and he has a mother. she understood the alas and lives with a genius. i think yes, of course, and she was a help to them because. she was also a professional literary critic. and then everything worked out. and when he came out to read poetry to us, you know, in a cloud of smoke, because he smoked a lot. yes, they mixed up, who is who more, in my opinion, such a feeling was. that's what the girls said. come and read some poetry. we all sat down , he read, my mother's eyebrows flew up, because this is such a speaker was her sign, she immediately frowned. and when we already listened to ours, they went to the office, and there she already, in front of everyone, she never made any remarks. they have already started working there. that is, sometimes nothing was needed to say, sometimes she didn’t like something, that’s why it was always out of

our ears . mom taught everyone the same or she arranged it. no, roberta did not say that this akhmadulina was no longer in the house. i don't know, it didn't bother me much. they yelled all the time, screamed, drank, smoked, stomped - this is the case when i went out at night. i would say shit about this experience, because i needed to sleep earlier. and here, this whole party heard no, shit. i mean, i still haven't. well, until recently, i was reminded of this shit here. e is not shitty plural. so i didn’t hear that there was someone excluded from the composition of the guests, except for e. the one who knocked, it

was very common in the sixties and the rumor about it was that one of the guests was knocking. it spread very quickly and immediately this person. uh, removed from the composition. it was first. it was dangerous. second, it was a pass, but that's dad a and the power is very loved and recognized and revered, and the people loved and recognized and revered it very much. well , it's a rarity. after all, very few people know that he was in disgrace. and that he was in exile for 3 years about this. almost no one knows, tell me, but after these boys in these khrushchev they stopped publishing him altogether, they forbade him to publish his poems and, uh, he went to kyrgyzstan where he lived for 3 years and there became an asset. on translating soviet poets, it was already with my

mother. it was with mom. it was the sixty- second sixty-fourth year. and if you you open any, uh, reference book, the internet says robert rozhdestvensky first word translator. at first i was indignant, then i decided that yes, probably, he had spent so many years and so much time translating all these people, then he returned, then they accepted him again, but 3 years were thrown out of life. he wrote poetry, of course. mostly. he earned, they gave him a fixed-term loan, and he translated the poems of all these comrades. so do not caressed by the authorities. that's for sure. kat e. well, you, our viewer, did not think that such love, in general, this is popularization, and robert is for today's generation. yes? arrange something. all these birthday nights you read, you burn cds with poetry and so on, and

your sister does not participate. uh, she's busy because she doesn't want to be in public, but i have a letter, though her already. uh, well, to the father who left. we haven't seen each other for 8 years, your old letters are turning yellow, and your sweaters, which you found, no longer smell of you. your voice remained only on the tape screaming and whispering from the last century. your poetic ladder. in today's poetry rises as a proud almost destroyed monument of architecture, on which no one walks, at best, listen to the guide, look at the scale , take into account the complex ambiguous time. this ladder leads to heaven. we haven't seen each other for eight years. when you left, you said happy to you, my girls. i don't know how you can be happy without you today, your poems are no longer perceived. like their time, rather from the very time, it seems only from the sound, poems to their headers or the last

line, but i collected this book not for in order to convey the spirit of the times and not in order to remember you again. i always remember you and not in order to tell someone such a poet from the villages lived, poetry was young, and then he stopped being young, and then died, but the poems remained. i just hope you like it. or at least it will be interesting and one more thing i just almost never talked about you. well, you know that, really. i love you. yes, you can imagine hands. you are so happy. no, that's how you are, it seems to me filled with overflowing with this love, when i understand, uh, why do you have such a temper? why are you so loving? why are you so dumb today? such a definition is very fashionable, for some reason you accept and perceive it this way. why are you giving so much? why are you always around, but these huge

companies that you feed and eat just like your parents collect all these christmas meetings. eh, why? what do you have to share? well, probably, you know, i lived in such love that i need to give. i owe them as much as i wrote, dad, the more you give, the more i owe them a lot, and i'm happy because i managed to confess my love to them. i love you very much katya because i will remember all this good that you did to me and your soul, yes, because i want to sit in the kitchen with you, cry and talk. i remember how we salam. i was already pregnant and smoked, and at the elevator. yes, yes, we were pregnant at the same time and my parents did not smoke, i was bad. so, we will definitely see you again. thank you so much. thanks for the memory.

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internal problems, but my name is natalya loseva. i am a journalist and i will be such a translator from human to psychological and vice versa in our conversation. hello, i'll be glad to help you. hello. hello. yes tell me what you brought. well us led. uh, the problem is with my mom. i'm a sissy, as my wife calls me, and the former and that's actually now, and everything is fine. yes, yes stuck, here it is and a is such as it were. the problem is that i myself cannot find a common language with my mother, and a son who cannot find a common language with his mother. yes, and your wives reproach you for what it is that you are a sissy or that you cannot find a common language with my mother. uh, maybe traumatized it all went from the first marriage. and, as it were, maybe some

hatred even for the mother. here i planted. here is the first wife. vasily was going from five san, but i could not send him alone, because this is really our big problem. if when i was talking to the editors, yes, she sat right on my knees, and so i also want to add and bring in such clarity, because it’s all on my part. i also think it is necessary to listen to how circumstances risked letting vasily go alone, not that they risked it. it's just that i would like to solve our problem, which really exists. a how do you formulate this problem? we almost got divorced this summer, which is why i would call this problem not a problem with my mother, but a problem, and between us, because yes, a problem. eh, these are all mom’s people, there friends can all be bad, extreme, but the bottom line is that we can’t among ourselves, but we can improve relations and give away those who

interfere with us a little in this too. yes, fast borders are correct, that is, the shadow of your mother, vasily, is your mother-in-law. it is still present in the problem in which, as you see it. yes since your problem specifically oligane. this is if i respect the blood for her, but i would like to observe these boundaries of each other, but vasily said that you also sometimes call him a little son. in what situation do you see him really hurt? yes, i agree, i would like to decide that i don’t have to and i don’t feel like that, but that i want to call it like that. give an example when you are in the hearts or yes, a cold head, for example, is, for example, when we swear, and vasily a turns to his mother for help, as well turns to my parents for help. tell vasily what kind of help from your mother or from natalia's parents do you need to sort things out with him a little, yes, they look. or maybe help? yes, which

means that we live in mine, as it were, in our house yes, in which, uh, my mother and i, to which my mother and i built, it turns out, well, a family family house, but due to circumstances it so happened that well, we are forced to be there now , because we previously rented an apartment. here is the ego of the house, that is, and this is the house in this house. you live with your mother. no. no, we live separately for six months. we live with my mother, because she never seems to come this summer, but she comes anyway. she says me. to come for the weekend, but she always comes there, of course, builds her own order. and this is my mother-in-law understand? that is, you feel there how awful you feel at a party. i say, i also lived there all my life and there is also such a funny house of your mother. this is our mother's house. naturally, he framed me. well, i've been there all my life, but i built it too. me too

built. and i'm there, and even when i'm there, let's say it was alone and without a relationship, i lived there in the winter and well, in the summer he lives there, mom. yes, i work in the summer, i live and live in moscow, and somewhere there, why do we need something else, and even more so to shoot someone else's sword, if he has, as it were, a heredity syndrome, hereditary apartment, with what? well, now something else to have , you understand that i have nothing, except that i have to suffer from this every day, because our space. yes, there is no our space. she does not feel like a mistress there. and so she says help, in what, if we fight? and let's say in the summer we had a big quarrel over there, well, household items, mugs, i left there for a couple of hours with the child and returned. she took the mugs herself. yes, i removed the mugs there, well, beer mugs. yes, although we do not use nothing simple, which i collected from everyone there strangely, yes, the worlds of the world, great tragedies begin with such trifles as a mug. come on, how would

a scandal break out in our country because natalya started, as it were, raising tons on me too. we are here on these tones and with uh, outsiders the people who were in the house also all this happened to my mother and she came from moscow called my mother after you started to drive yourself badly, namely, you broke the balcony door. yes, she is very impulsive. yes, you can explain it. we are the feelings of the inner dalderey. and so she broke the minimum complain about the waist. no, no, i already, when i was already leaving, because i couldn’t be around, because then natasha, as if something could fly in to me and, uh, the main thing is that this should not happen with the child. yes, that is, well, we, let's say, there we go out into the street, or i went out. i understand that i need to leave, and i call, of course, i say to my mother, come here, as if i

were leaving natalya, and i would go, let’s say, to go fishing, she packed up and left, then again they, of course. mom came and did not find a common language with her. here's the last time. we last time i called my neighbor sergei, you understand, yes, how does it look like magic, my eyes are feminine? yes , it means, uh, you quarreled, uh, brought to the waist to the broken door. i didn’t finish it well, in fact, it’s correct further home-made for broken doors. after that, you call your mom. say come, go away. this one here comes with this one. what is here? see. yes, yes, everything is quiet. i think that everything will calm down and all the mothers, so that i still have and after that let's listen to the psychologist, i really really want more psychology for everything in general about reality. yes, maybe a little more texture, and i'm very interested in how the

door was broken, and more than that, everything just beats, because we have all the doors to our room. she's already holding on like that because everything time to make glass. i understand the balcony door, which we are going to change. i slammed it and there, out of two glasses, one old glass cracked. yeah, about this, you had to explain yourself to your mother, vasily. well, she arrived. she started me. naturally, everything is so with such pleasure. you know, they love a famous person with a crown. she didn’t accept me from the very beginning, she didn’t accept me yet . yes, i'm sorry, please, as a daughter-in-law, and that's why we intervene with such pleasure, you know. a wise woman would probably tell me this, you know that your son is 40 years old. is it your wife. this is your choice. understand yourself. i think so. it’s our mom and mom’s problem, because she just didn’t accept, and she says she doesn’t accept, no matter how my choice. she starts talking. she is constantly trying to convince me herself. and i don’t

talk there, for example, without raising that this is your choice. you stepped on a rake there again. here, as if now the ships are suffering, this is oh, and they gave birth to the wrong child and he got himself into trouble, yes, a syndrome. yes, we have a child so we endured another shock. we have a lot of incidents, load, of course, yes. it seems to me that we cannot give this factor. well, the fact that we must take into account all stress factors and before that there was a constant stressful situation. so my daughter also figured when we reunited with my daughter, so we collected from another region. moscow took. that is, we also had there. problems, that is, the stress was constantly not only focused after all. yes, because 3 years 3 years during this time of stress is already sergey

year is the time when people uh people are already a little bit reduced. let's just say that the first such spontaneous investment comes from the fact that the novelty , e, greatly excites people. character traits that seem unacceptable. i mean, it adds more stress and permanent. because of which, more precisely, of which m-m vasily and i cannot be in the first place. he's like a man cannot. e our family is easy to take and pull out. because, well, it can't last that long . i don't inspire him, you know? i am talking about the fact that i have no inspiration about something, maybe this is due to the fact that for

this you do not need to understand my simple space. this is even a house in which we can build there for a while. something i do because i do everything around the house. i'm repairing something there, well, there i'm changing the box and insulating it. i love doing everything myself. and you, too, are annoyed, by the way, the basement is leaving, for example. here's the last time. we'll see, i went to the basement and i hear there again the bays of the door, there you run away all this. but no, no, as if we really disagree, and we live in a summer house in dachny now it’s not very cold. well, it was just built in e, at the time of the extension there were no such materials. and, of course, there is somewhere not a chrysalis, it is heated with wood, so that you understand, uh, it is impossible to wash in the shower for a long time. yesterday i tinted his hair before the program. i washed in cold water, and then i lay down and like this i fell asleep, because it is very cold in the house and i have to heat it with firewood. can you imagine

in our time, and also with such a child with whom you constantly need to travel to the city and i still work. i did not stop working when i was not pregnant, nor when i gave birth, and not only that i am in this situation, because i love this person, oddly enough, yes, although i already have degrees. it 's cold for me, it's physically and mentally very difficult, but i live with this person because i want to save my family. i want, so that the son had a dad, especially for ours with me. this is very important and this person and this person has chosen. they are just like that, because there are so many positive qualities in it. i love him for nothing, as i should. i'd like to mend the relationship, but he needs to understand these things that don't change with my inspiration for you. vasya, you understand, i can’t inspire you to make a serious man’s decision. whatever solution he would like in the

first place the solution is to have the intention to solve the problem. this is the most important thing the rest is reasons and excuses. i think moms have some problems there, i don’t want to rent an apartment and something else is all this. i'll just clarify the problem to solve, which one so that you do not live in the house with your mother, of course, mom, it doesn’t matter to me, in fact, where to live? i want to solve problems with clarification so that we have our own life, at least only in an apartment with you. we lived with you in an apartment in one in the other lived in the city. eh why? we moved out temporarily. we didn't like it either. why didn't like it because the man leaves for 2 weeks to the dacha, because the house has to be heated, and every other day they leave for the garage. he has his own space. i like there's something to be done to leave me with the baby for 2 weeks when we fight without money. and well, even without a connection to block me and

leave. well, that's it, but you have your parents, who always financially support you, your dad, mom and daughter, and you all succeed. here is your family, and i feel, what are you there. all the same, you are a mountain for you, but i absolutely do not interfere. even when vasily nobody. so you say, she says to her mother, yes, and who else should i call if i have well , in principle, right now, yes, uh, a midlife crisis , yes, all friends, the way they fell off. i'm still fond of the fact that i, uh, lead a healthy lifestyle. and this in our time turned out to be not very, uh, cool, because all the friends fell off. we have no common interests now. well, how to have a drink, have a bite to go to the bathhouse, and so on. that is, i now go alone to the bathhouse and everywhere. well, in general, i have no one to call. yes psychologist. of course, it is also expensive there at the moment. i need to feed my family. i need a child. i

need a house there for a car and so on. and of course, when the apartment, and in these crises that are going on, and it’s like the business has already been killed, and that ’s it, and i’m already bankrupt and so on. well, how hard. what happens, it turns out that you are connected by close and best feelings with each other for 3 years together, a fairly common problem in families. uh, in moscow , the choice of where to live, how to live with whom to live in moscow or in the moscow region, especially when there is a choice this creates a lot of difficulties, when people have no choice, then they somehow have the situation that they have. they decide as far as they can. yes, and try e somehow not to quarrel, and somehow keep the peace among themselves. yes, and when there is a choice. here you can have a

one-room apartment here in paradise, but there you can, and without raev, but in a big house, and this creates options in which people already have. it becomes not so important, what others feel. and it’s important, what are my interests? vasily’s interest is to fulfill my mother’s instructions to maintain the house properly condition. it's not only her assignment to me, as it were, uh, well, i myself want to do a lot, because i spent there, well, a normal most of my life. yes, from the very beginning. it was a family nest lived. i am with my grandmother and mother. well, there for some time there was a stepfather for 3 years, but, as it were, everything that i know how to do, i learned, but i also like it. i'm going down to the basement, that when i'm going down to the basement you say, stop messing around there, that is what i'm on. i feel what i

feel. by the way, as a psychologist, i feel, but some is not like that irritation, but guilt i don't feel high calmness when i do, let's say, something with a car or there, well, some garbage with a boiler, it doesn't matter what are you doing with your hands? yes, men will understand me. i do it myself there in my garage, and she does not understand this. why are you there for so long? this causes a feeling of guilt, and i feel, and i feel this guilt from the first, so i will explain to you now from the first marriage, because the first marriage caused me a colossal trauma. well, it all comes from there, because the first the wife forbade going to her mother, calling names to her mother and directly clearly saying, if you cursed, she said that we should all die. she said, if you go to the country, i will destroy you right away. that is, when i came, uh, there once a month to mow the grass to help my mother. well, how to help sergei's mother feel guilty again, it seems to me

that he already has enough information. i think that you believe that you have some kind of inferiority complex imposed on you by your first wife. well, most likely, yes, because before that, i remember myself that as if there were no problems. tell me, when does vasily go down to your basement? like some kind of anxiety? no, i'm just saying, you fill it again with me. i miss you a little. that is, you need constant attention. and it is my lifestyle. different looks perfect i wish it was different here. here is the big difference. here's to this ideal lifestyle. yes? please tell us about your ideal lifestyle. well, firstly, i would like to take care of my health, which we already have with vasily back and so on little child nerva i think makes itself felt and so on. we don't get

to work. just basic health. you take care of your health, from about morning to evening. no why at all about perfect in an ideal world. yes, at least there are no basements, the truth is, there are none at all. it's not that the basement itself doesn't irritate something. yes, it just already follows from the fact that the house constantly requires pumping water to pump out the septic tank. now the electricity doesn't work at all. we just saw the wires in both like this everywhere, well, as it were, small, we almost lost, of course, but nearby, because he constantly climbed into the basement, came out , brought something, took out difficult conditions for life closed, requiring demanding yes , a certain. labor here is your spouse. and every day, in the end, it is not against doing this work, which leads to some kind of harmonization. yes, we

can repair this situation for the nursery for 2 years, there is nothing to do. there, just like that, everything is standing in such a room, all the tools in the world. i don't i can understand, i can go do this repair myself, vasily does not want to hire, because he wants to do everything with his own hands, not an electrician, or they have already hired, and what happened was terribly painted, which i repaint myself, they would not have done anything at all. really very badly done. although all the reviews were already called through the application, they are all fine. there, it was simply necessary to paint the walls of the lining, which is already intended for other purposes for the nose. they are for painting. what emotion are you killing this situation? i'm in a desperate situation. just understand, i now understand what i have to endure. yes, i feel this feeling every day, and i have almost come to terms with the fact that i choose to stay in

a family with this person, and save my family and endure, let's say, be in this house , endure waiting for everything to get better, but the most important thing is even aggravating. this is the expectation that spring is coming soon. he will come, mom, that's all m-m. you understand me, so that we still leave. well, it's still hard to plan for the possibilities of imagining how your life should be. be organized. well, well, ideally, as it were, i'll take it next weekend, true. well , let's assume that this is the most common. yes? here's the weekend all weekend. i am working. well, i work - what are they doing? well, i work, where they pay there. i work for me, as it were, i made money. i feel confident happy when, as it were, they fell, there on the map or in my pocket. yes, i have money. i can afford to buy something for my

wife and freely yes and uh, it’s nice to go home and it’s clear some household chores, my gender is at home, you know, that is. work, then you will work. weekdays this weekend is not important. these are the ones that work a lot. it was like that in the summer. i, well, kind of work all the time. have us summer this the main, too, earnings. eh, always has been. it seems to me that the guys are worried, not what they are saying now. so far i can't get to the bottom of it. i felt great sympathy for these people, i tried, because you are great workers, we are this is what is generally justified by buying a lot. i will say, that i did not force myself to take a break to go to sochi on the spot. you are worried about something deep down and you are not getting to the bottom of it. here you have a mother-in-law, it means, something else , uh, some kind of range sergey that their ex-wife doesn’t care about them, honestly

doesn’t trigger, absolutely sees guys, let me, i see what you see already, of course, of course. he misses his first wife. it seems to me that this is my point. in the sense, but olga, i don’t have absolutely no good that you lack love. here is your spouse. you expected more. you expected that you would be at the center of his life, but no also expected, shall we say, a completely different reign in gifts. understand, i do n't even ask him for anything. yes, he is a gift to me. or i would endure so. that's all, because i really have. i may look so good. maybe i don't seem so tired, in fact, i have a very big pain inside. i can

cry now, but i don't want to be very beautiful in this video. yes, understand, this is my real pain. i'm not spoiled. just from the side may look like i'm so spoiled, bitch. pardon the expression. yes? no guys. i'm ready to drive with this man in a six. well, the truth is, with this one , you see, i'm ready. i sold the apartment so that he would close the loan for the car. you can imagine it in something to say. we, together, we gave one and a half million, sold an apartment in a small one in the krasnodar territory and gave him the money, so that because i was very worried, how he was worried that they would take away his car. this machine feeds us - this is our bread. it's simple. well, at least a small act says that i love this person. and that i don’t need anything from him in terms of some kind of self-interest. what was needed? i want peace, you know? i want us to have a family, our life is

small, let it be a rented apartment. i want comfort cleanliness and peace. i'm tired of this cleaning. we have a small child, she always has enough of cleaning this life, but you see, maybe for me, it's understandable. i love aesthetics, i love beauty. i want comfort i have a libido. sorry, disappeared. right off the bat. because i don't feel myself, i can't realize myself as a woman. i need beauty. i am a makeup artist to inspire a man. yes, as for e, the balance of energy a woman must herself be inspired, otherwise, where will i take this energy? from what from a dirty floor? i don't know and i'm lying inside this sergey why can't vasily hear the voice? i want. i can even rent an apartment myself . i offered him, let me pay for the apartment. i will withdraw money from her myself, no question. you guys can't hear each other. yeah we

don't hear each other money no job request this money itself. he says, i'm not a man, you want to be a man again. you yourself yes , it's not about that. i just want to step forward every day. you see, do they really stand still and skid and do some bullshit in the basements. but what does vasily do is not a movement, what he does on weekends rummaged in the garage in the car in the basement, even on the ceiling you walk there? what do you want to do? get inspired. i say go with the guys where you want to relax, he doesn't want that. he wants to be with me all the time. i don't force him. he himself wants to be with me, and he wants to be with you, so i want. i'm telling you to realize you as a man in the basement, please. well, this can be done on the weekends to the dacha, you need to go to the dacha for the weekend, we protected the water, we call up and natasha is there,

for example, alone at home. it was the same in the apartment. we can quarrel with you, even on the phone with my daughter. it was very difficult. we quarreled about the fact that we were together in the same space relationship. yes? there as times parents theme parents. if yes, then natasha's parents supported, as if their daughter and now, even at 17 , they didn’t listen, no matter what i tried, how to convey there, how to raise you a small child. uh, down's syndrome, which also requires special attention of passion. it worries me too. maybe natasha is simply exhausted. i think she's just exhausted now, a little depressed. i'm not the right word. what you can’t even imagine what i already have. some door i'm ready to smash everything, to be honest, i'm ready to blow everything. well, really, that's such a desire, because we don't know, we've heard it already. well, we just heard. let's get back. that's what

let's talk about, but what are you together for? it didn’t turn out, yes, it’s somehow strange, maybe you won’t believe it, but it happens so much with us. everything is fine. we often have such moments when everything is fine with us, but at the same time, as you know, it goes up sharply and down, that is, the amplitude. not like this, yes, but he is like this. here yura is not too. good bad. good bad i happen i'm going crazy with such emotional reactivity it's hard to be happy emotional plus in addition, uh-huh and maybe both have some problems. i have not met, god forbid, if it is our emotionality directed against someone. yes, a person simply destroys. let's start by saying that generally speaking, good emotional self-regulation. it won't hurt either of you and this should be learned, because you have difficulties in hearing each other and in order to

realize one of the most important callings of your life, which is to give love to your loved one. a person can see that you love each other, but this line, in fact, is probably the main thing in making the other person happy, of course, hers. as a matter of fact, you somehow lack everyone sees their own interests, everyone insists on his own, and in order to make another person happy , difficulties arise with their comfort. uh, i do for this person. yes, i endure what gives me terrible discomfort, in order to be with this person, it seems that vasily is also taking a step. and here's the next one little step none of you do. you understand what the thing is that you work through the problems that arise between you, that is, look, in fact, life in the country

is not some kind of completely apocalyptic scenario and life in the city is not something completely impossible . it turns out that we get along well as a mother when you do not interfere. here, and my mother turns me on just like this, that is, i can explode, because between myself, because i can yell and that's it. we can't seem to find it, because she is very tough. she she still talks like that all the time baby. that is, if i’m somewhere there, talking in elevated terms to a man and me, uh, stand behind the fence, somewhere she will come up, quietly, quietly, quietly, and he says, come on, let’s take it from here. i mean , she humiliates me. she does not understand. i'm talking about it. yes, and here is the same thing, probably, we have some kind of transfer, or something, there, but here it’s the same as in this transfer with mom. it is also present, there are equivalent

trends. let's see how it goes with mom. that is, you are in such a strained relationship with her. yes. you often ah, express your claims, but at the same time you call your mother to come, when your beloved, wife it was only planted a window back in the summer yes, well, just as an example, why this time? that's why i called? yes, because you needed to calm down. natasha came neighbor. did n't say something there, there. i say, you know, where the neighbor was there, go to your wife there , tell, you know, what is the neighbor to my husband. you know, sometimes you have to beat them so that they were i do not agree here. i have only one piece of advice for you. now guys. you need to realize that you are already grown up as an adult, and not your mother, yes, who are adults and yours are not there either, natasha

yours who don’t interfere at all, mine just never interfere. no, well, you keep saying to. well, daddy will help. mom is there, my parents are there, money, money and so on, you understand? maybe somehow you told me that it's okay, it's your parents who will support you because now there is no money. i was only told well, as if natasha says that i am sitting there without money. i know that a she always has money. i know that both from me and from dad, who is being translated and the same thing happens there. that's what my daughter and i are, and again , we were already parents as parents, yes, but natasha's daughter. she's like a teenager, here again grandfather indulges the problem with parents. i say, no need to spoil, because she buys cigarettes, there are energy. these, like, planted their stomach. i say no, let her, if she wants, i give her a job. and here are the kids. hello grandpa. translate that's why

it's from there and you get the same. he spoiled you in the same way, as if constantly. you probably feel you have a father , a man, it turns out that vasily's wife is spoiled. you are absolutely not spared. i'm on my own. it seems to me that at the age of 19 i gave birth to a daughter, ekaterina, my wonderful beloved daughter, and went to work at the age of 20 and already dressed myself, living in moscow and rounding up in another city. so let's not, let's go back to sergey, use the precious minutes that yes, which can help you. let's see what is the way out of that the situation you are actually in. here you need to re-evaluate the values ​​that unite you. first of all, this is your idea of ​​a happy family that you are creating. yes, we need to correct these ideas in such a way that

you find their articulation in which you can implement the common project of a happy family. while they are immediately different, i absolutely agree. and i understand that you were katya from your family, never found. here is their place in this happiness and they intersect very rarely and so further. see. this is an example of how, uh, you could not solve these difficulties that arose between you and so that now for your son and for you, vasily, this project was. everything needs to be worked on, so that you have a unified idea of ​​\u200b\u200bthat. what can you give up for the happiness of another loved one? and what can't you give up? because this is the most important thing for you, i have already entered. i think i live where i am absolutely uncomfortable. you can ask, if you lived in the city, but would come, for example, in spring and summer dacha. there would be your mother, your relationship,

it would be different to go with her, of ​​course, like visiting your mother. yes, and that's how it works. i'm visiting and going anywhere. we do not have a conflict due to the fact that we cannot deal with it. it turns on the parents and makes me a child causes a feeling of guilt all the time and so on. they they quarrel among themselves, and i tolerate it, firstly, these extra nerves are useless to me. every time i get nervous, vasily can talk very sharply with his mother, very sharply, to which i scold him, he already says, this is sergey’s mother i have a feeling that vasily is in a constant internal. i wanted to say the dialogues are actually in a showdown with my mother with natalya and so on down the list. maybe the problem is that vasily does not have any kind of peace inside, accepting some kind of balance. you see , i see it like this in such a household level. i see it so basil what is the problem?

yours, you are all dealing with this world with this world . yes, he blames everyone. yes , indeed, this is the case with people who are inclined towards such projective identifications. that is, when we look outside cause of our difficulties, it is very difficult to take responsibility and incomprehensible. why take it? because there are always external circumstances that are to blame, and the difference is that it is really the person who takes responsibility. he grows under her yoke. when we are looking for who is to blame for me, then, unfortunately, we are not growing, the scale of the individual is not growing, the scale of our affairs is growing. and in the end, we are forced to continue to look for the fault that we also have difficulties in such a strategy. difficulties

are overcome only through the fact that a person says stop. yes, from today i solve those problems that i have, and i decide that this is my area of ​​responsibility. let's start simple here. yes, you have a wonderful wife whom you love and i hear that she is ready to live with you in the country. she lives, doesn't she? and at the same time, she is ready to harmonize the situation that exists. it seems to me that if you take responsibility for this situation, you will not avoid relations with her, but spend, say, there are weekends for the upcoming holidays, to organize some wires, some things in the children's room in such a way, it seems that you have all the resources for this and it

's also amazing that you are a very gifted and creative person both physically, and mentally and you can create all the conditions for in order for natalya to be happy there, you will continue to live there or move to the city. and it will be just for you some opportunity to come, sometimes for the weekend. uh, together or by level. this is already the second question, but it seems to me that some of the efforts that you do it together. uh, hmm, it will definitely return to you in the form of admiration and gratitude to your wife if not, and there will be inspiration. over the edge i paid attention. with what warmth and pride she genuinely speaks, natalya told us that vasily knows how to do everything with his own hands. i admire, though you still have to know the micron effort. it's just that what she loves you wants, listen, you'll find it. yes do, that's what she likes. make you this room in the

country. so she walked in and was just blown away. you see, she was sure to cry. she is an emotional girl. she will cry from this delight from overflowing love from gratitude to you, you understand, she is ready. well , that's all. see what else is happening to you, too, everything is wrong. it’s just that i didn’t doubt vasily a works, generally speaking, as your videograff driver, which costs a lot of money, generally speaking, while you consume all these resources, and instead of giving him admiration and gratitude, you constantly find some other reasons for in order not to surrender to him entirely, but all the time, as if holding back your love for some hour, you know when he finally, will do everything for you, return you to a beautiful

apartment in moscow and you will be happy here, i try to give myself completely, even i don't want through. because here you mean through it do not want to. it’s just that she’s now being fed, which is reduced, as the psychologist says. i'm not as stupid as one can be, it seems at first glance. and if you do not change, then each of you will not change your part of the situation, you are ready to leave already, but am i honestly not ready for life well? we parted ways in august. yes, i already wanted

to file for divorce already, if the lawyer, well, the lawyer, as it were, she says, i got sick. i wanted to put an end to the relationship right away, naturally, and holding me and the baby, because , well, we both love the baby so much and you start. by the way, sometimes you say to manipulate a child, you will not see him in the west with a child. did i raise my daughter alone or not? i have you at home now. see? it seems to me that lazy lawyers have saved more than seven than the genius of psychologists. that's for sure. well, what are the chances? it's unfair, i think it's inevitable. it's just that you just inevitably have to become happy people, because i returned so to her after all. well, as it were, well, every time i imagine you to threaten not with a divorce, that i am also disappointed with nothing every time to beat the door when it

starts, thank you for being what he is right, really, i feel, therefore grateful, and how would the family be saved , if you had all the thrushes of the board and physically move everything to solve. it's not a question. that is, how would i could have been planned, i suggested come on. and we will settle in an apartment, and you will go to your dacha. how do you like it, perhaps at the moment, right today, but this is not the reason. this is not the reason, absolutely at the moment it is necessary to earn, probably, you see, well , guys, we will not decide everything again. let's listen to sergey well, at least uh, in which direction do you row what you need to row, i am absolutely convinced, because i still

see that you love each other, and you , in your own way, worry about each other somewhere, maybe. could have been more mature. or maybe perhaps it could have been done a little more rationally. i see that you are very tired. you are really two exhausted people and exhausted by the conflict with each other, because all your other difficulties are together. you have overcome were easy and confident. and look, our task is to see. why did you let these problems go? between you squeeze already wife. you said solve all the problems since mom slipped through don't think like they said, okay? yes, they said alive if we unite against someone. you said it yourself. so let's unite against here, against all these external problems against lack of money, the lack of housing is necessary, uh, to strengthen and improve the rehabilitation of your baby, but unite. listen to sergei , he says, exhausted conflicts with each other. it drains you. yes, everything else

you can easily overcome. you are both people with a very strong temperament. you can see we are strong. we can now now this force is directed. suddenly, the hands of a friend, just the same, i tell him, we are all, uh, your problem with your marriage is that you a vasily did not take over completely responsibility for everything that happens, and natalya, seeing that you do not take responsibility, began to claim the role of the head of the family, and as a result. you are now fighting for this dominance, because you do not want to be henpecked, and natalia does not trust you, as they say, simply. nyashechki team joking no to each other stop fighting each other. shoot back from outsiders. yes , they agree with each other. for any conflicts

with each other, in fact, your mother will be a completely external story for you, like as soon as you stop letting it go between you it 's wonderful. i'm not her all the time something not wonderful, the story of a child and a wonderful story about how an adult son says, mom, why are you covering me with a blanket all night? how can son, so that you feel warm, mom, well, you open my wife. so let's get on that note, shall we? it seems to me that you and i are still about the direction, no problem. we get out we signified that you can get out. for example, i am convinced of this, of course, without yours, of course. in fact, it seems to me that that here is your strength, but that you spend on proving to each other that you are the head of the family, and even a tenth of these forces

is enough to make the family happy just direct the solution to the problems that arise in the other direction, well i will decide. yes, we will be rooting for you. yes, we are happy to help you. thank you thank you good night friends. this is a podcast of jokes for everyone who does not sleep. again. good night, yes, and i'm right. what is my camera, that's all. i'm just here these here this light necessarily. i as if you know a plane is landing on me, as if you know kamaz is definitely coming. that is, you are not my question. you work for someone. okay, let's give it again. this is

a podcast of jokes. me: well, i'm glad that some people suffer from insomnia in a good way. and this time will be spent with us. i have wonderful guests in my studio, connoisseurs, lovers. keepers of jokes are people who know how to tell them, and i will be happy to introduce them to you. this is mikhail the policeman. actor singer composer not a singer

do you want a joke? that is, it became easy a joke, just a joke, but such a short, uh, joke meme, you know, well, yesterday there was either or yes. do you want a joke opens and reads to you with the help of a gadget in our childhood. do you remember gadgets? it was an appeal, uh, to a person who carries you yourself is not the same. you're a bastard with a completely different

meaning, and my daughters do things differently. they don't tell jokes, they talk. dad , look, cool, yes, well, yes, read something to tell to play. maybe this reflects, as it were, reality in that plan that, uh, youth in particular. yes, she stops communicating with each other earlier. to be honest, let's say, well, my childhood is there. youth is there further e in the yard. yes, when everyone gathered it was, as it were, not that cool, as it is now, he says, the youth was generally, well, it’s cool to tell a joke vying. yes, i'm not. listen, i'm tired. yes, i knew everyone there, everyone knew how to tell, and this was a means of understanding. you understand how you loved for free and counted in your mind. here is a generation, that is, a girl should have been make an impression. you were not supposed to read from the phone, but to tell about memory from the heart, that is, to show yourself, and that

's just the same about the girl, to make an impression. two options, as i remember, is when you know how to play at least a few songs on the guitar, that is, always in the company, yes, the bravo group i played the guitar in the yard. e told you about it. i’m dubrava, everything from the beatles, daevsky, our polish heroes then were really like that, that is, here, well, the guitar, that is, you don’t know how play. goodbye, but i know a joke. and then there would still be such an option, in sports there were guys who, uh, pulled themselves up or something from bruce lee, could portray it is already on, yes, but basically at all times i will say this more all the best. if you feel like answering all the best performers, whether it be classical music or frank the sinator, for example, or carusa. it's not the greatest precisely vocal times. this is the greatest storyteller, because the song it's like you, what

you wanted to tell, here you know how to tell. listen, you don’t know how to tell, ideal solfeggio, high, low notes do not take everything, so it seems to me that anecdote is still such a safety of communication precisely from eye to eye from the mouth. mouth and what you want to convey, of course, and show how you can tell your degree and your own with your erudition of emancipation, by the way, on this occasion. eh, now you understand. why as they say, an expensive spoon remembered an anecdote for dinner, and the anecdote that is there uh, there are two of them out of this anecdote, this is the great yuri nikulin yes, who was also the keeper of jokes. uh, and uh, his club there is a white parrot, so the story is next uh, there is such an anecdote. i'll tell it to you now, so, uh, the company is sitting. well, that is, in some century there, for example, there in the nineteenth, then yes, we are cavaliers there. well

, that means, uh, they are sitting and, uh, the new man in this company is just some kind of hussar, he was introduced there, please, there is passion and everything there, yes, and that means he got into the company in this, they are sitting circle and just 244 and that's it ha-ha-ha there 78, and like everyone else they laugh, and it means that he asks his friend, too, there is some young officer there, please tell me, what is happening, he says, you know, all these people are everything, this is society. we love jokes. we love we love so much and so often we get together to tell each other jokes that already, well, as if everyone knows them by heart. and what will be long is not repeated. we just remember imitating them. here, let's say. right now, look here 302 there ha ha ha. he says it's a very funny anecdote. i'm like, i'll tell you later. he says, you're there, well, you sat down. you got used to it, and at some point there was such a deathly silence and the lady next to him stood up,

the one who was sitting slapping him in the face got up and left. he sits simply and says what happened to a friend says. listen well, bro, we didn’t tell vulgar jokes in betrayal. well, here's an old joke. you are for sure. you know what he came up with. eh, nikulin, he came up with two sequels. that is , this joke means, and everything is the same start. uh, this, well, new comer. this man says, there, 147. complete silence is just dead, and he looks at everyone like that and suddenly avoids eating. listen, don't be upset. there are just people who know how to talk. and this and well, another third option - this is already a joke, when he says

there 210, yes, and again silence is rude. he says, well, listen, well, do not tell funny ones. yes, you, and this, i think, is also correct. you said that joke writing is a profession. i think this is a story someone is telling. casually here yesterday it was like this, and then yes, it gives some angle to another, because agree that sometimes you know the same joke, but the person tells adds some little paint, and he plays in a completely different way anecdote is like a case, i was told, really, when an elder in the caucasus speaks to the best there. eh, you'll go there tomorrow, you'll fly to moscow. we need to have a wedding. and in this pocket he has a pack of rubles there once, well, as a fee here quickly counts right in his pocket to the touch hmm money. what about a wedding

straight inward you won't go anywhere else small budget and will never forget. i worked in the eighties. under the direction of the orchestra, the main guest performer was mikhail sergeevich boyarsky and mikhal sergeevich . they tell a joke that i know very well, but add a little nuance like this. i would even say our country's guild told the circus. a man comes, says, i am the director of the circus with a new attraction. yes, what kind of rides now no one goes at such a time, you have nothing, for sure, we don’t have any expenses of money. yes, nothing is needed, just hang up a poster. here i satisfy vasya live online, as young people are now saying right in the ring, 80 women in the evening of the sixty-first division and an encore of another 20, in the second. well, they put up a poster

for the first department, and the mood changes in the city, phone calls went off. word of mouth radios. here, in general, the women bought all the tickets for a month in advance, the men are also interested, in short, the full house is all hanging. hmm, they are hanging down from the anti-theater. to be closer to the action, but our hero is 78 two before the end you understand loses his mind and faints and the mood in the hall changes there were cries of swindle. return the money. this is our 78 they are not satisfied with the promised 8 swindle the director runs out into the arena. ammonia. the hero comes semyon says. vasya, what happened the hero pyotr mikhailovich did not put his mind to it during the day on the run , everything was fine, the word run. i remembered eduard smolny, these productions, everything

could be said at the rehearsal. here's to the run and swindle. he is mikhal sergeevich , of course, he uses our folk and equivalent this word is different. when to cheat? well, here's one. well, i'm sorry, the quality of the scene and the characters of the jokes is also important. if we are returning, because here is the situation itself , this situation, it is already comical that, well, as if, if we parse it and i also remembered one of these fairly decent jokes also on this topic, that when a man is such an engineer goes home in the subway , a huge queue of men comes out of the subway. his yard what they give there, he goes farther to his entrance. well, what happens, he goes up to his floor, and there is a line in his apartment. there is a queue, he comes, which means to

his apartment. in the bedroom, his wife lies on the bed. and in turn. so takes all these men off the subway what's going on? she says you don't see the disaster in my interpretation. he told me this. kolya fomenko had such a finale. he says, vasya this is some kind of nightmare, but here we touched on something very important. uh, all the jokes in the company are what i told. it comes right there. sansa you told on this short on this topic is standing at the door. you know, such a jewish let's give the correct and color anecdote to a man at a funeral. i don't believe you left us. i refuse

to believe it, please. but here, by the way , about uh, national flavor. yes, you see in jokes, it is very important. yes, er, to itself here is this short story. yes, e did not affect some really quite like that. uh, well, let's say some ethnic issues. that is, from an offensive point of view. i mean, that is, jokes. you need to be able to tell, as it were, but also listen to them, because there were a lot in soviet times. remember the jokes were about the chukchi. yes, that is, in general, how did it happen? what here, apparently, the development of these lands and so on, meteorologists went, there are some there, uh, drillers and so on, they were laying bam there and so on and so on. that is, some of these cold ones. uh, well, some siberian ones, that is, so all these uh, jokes about what are there? well, who lived there to the south and so on. here in our time. now, however, they will not meet at all. yes, i can’t even remember a single one, but a doctor. and i

why why because, and now in the winter time i always remember this anecdote. this means that e is coming, that means a large settlement is coming, that means a feeler for its step. okay there with this, so a tambourine. there, the whole line is conjuring something, with a paw, it beats, this tambourine does not come and they say shaman, please tell me, winter is coming, cold is coming, it will store a lot of brushwood or all the same. we'll make it there somehow, but it's not so cold, and like, everything will be fine. shamansia to think so i will say that the winter will be warm, and it will be cold brushwood. no, they will freeze, in general, there will be more claims against me. and if i say that will be cold, well, they will collect a lot of brushwood. well, it will be warm, but less will remain. maybe then, as if in the spring, a pot we will live like this. ay-ay-ay-ay-ay. think, i will say that the cold will be very ah-ah-ah-ah such in general the spirits say that the

winter will be fierce, in general, a nightmare. gather a lot of brushwood. they about everything, rushed. they ran out there, so she put down a tambourine for a deer paw and really think, what kind of winter will it be, i’ll go to the meteorologists, i’ll ask once for the covers, everything went, it means it ’s coming there, it means this yurt is standing. there yaranga. this is such he comes comrades oh great. shaman yes hello tea will be like this, yes, there he took tea of ​​what he came, he says comrade meteorug, but say this year. well , what kind of winter will be cold there, like. or there, or what the chukchi says, i don’t know this for a long time . this year there will be a very cold winter. very much he says, well, thanks there for what the comrades said. and how do you know, this is me, well, how would i have perfume there, everything is such a bouvin. he says, yes, very simply, come here through the window. as long as you see chuhchi. they gather a lot of brushwood, which means it is very cold. yes, we have not only the chukchi

northern nationalities, do you remember the era of total shortages, when they were especially valued, uh, any items, uh, consumer goods from czechoslovakia from the german democratic republic, by that time there are islamic boots in the store, there is nothing, says i need a toilet bowl , speaks german they speak german. no there is, not netsky stick month simply. sticks and instruction he reads the instructions. and what is it? speaks? read, he says on one lean that the wind did not blow away like that, and the second volkov was always a huge number of anecdotes, that is, a jewish theme, there and so on and so on, because there are many and good storytellers. yes , and very much as if people are everything. well, most irony is perceived. yes, and, accordingly, there were

colorful anecdotes, there about georgians and there armenian radio, which became a separate story there. yes, there are armenian stirlitz yes, the chapaevites are a stove. i mean now. i'm talking now, just about all sorts of such things nationally. and here are some of the jokes, of course the same, but was special when it was in soviet times. remember there, when they were joking, what kind of anecdote can be given there for some years. yes, it's funny, like a joke. well, somewhere in the seven there they started talking there for 12 years, yes, which one you went there, then there in the kitchen. that's what they said, but it's still here. uh, how would people continue to do this. yes , this is how things have changed. what do you think, right now. uh, it became more open, that is, when in soviet times you told these things there anyway this is always preserved, in principle, it is as an example of both jewish and all short some kind of guru, i consider him my guru and one of zhvanetsky always spoke to me. in

any case, always so valera love everything short concert performance book anecdote course of treatment hmm everything is short so that's it, it characterizes such a frame. and how did you meet your wife, here. i do n't blame anyone for anything. here is such an intonation of a joke and you immediately understand, but these short ones i really like in police jokes when the doctor is in my head spinning, and i see i see, yes, or how everyone ignores me, they don’t notice. so next or when there doctor. it hurts me a woman came to the doctor and were here and here. he says, let's undress, let's see. where should i put my clothes? yes, put it on my luggage, and when i have a doctor, it hurts here, oh, it hurts here. oh, my hand hurts here. give yes your finger is broken. well, look, for example, medical yes, these are all jokes. well, why because, well, let's say

all people. yes, there is somehow more or less degree, everyone gets sick. yes, that is, well, an absolutely healthy person probably does not exist. yes and so, it seems to me that, probably, this allows somehow. still, these are in a joke, and in any humorous story, as a rule, a person. it beats when they don't associate themselves with it. that is, for him, this is a story about someone he has such a familiar friend there. and so, as it is with doctors. yes , they intersect there since childhood, they go there to do vaccinations, and so on and so forth. it seems to me that such a large number of jokes on a medical topic is due to the fact that that man. maybe, as it were, well, still calmly laugh. uh, roughly speaking about the protectors themselves, but how to combine stylish ones? it would seem that i really liked a person coming to the dentist, says the doctor. i have a problem's. what yellow teeth are yellow teeth. come on, m-m about green gas

advised everything such you know unexpected for what i love jokes, but wait, but fuck, man, in short, he says. do you know doctor? my stomach hurts so much, just some kind of nightmare. have you eaten your head? dove did not eat. and you are the head of a dove ate the pigeon's head i did not eat. and you ate the head of a naked pigeon, damn it, daniil, i’m a pigeon’s head, and what’s the matter, i’m a speech therapist, i tried what i could, at least, yes, with medical jokes. uh, a huge number of professional jokes in general, a lot, because there are a lot of musical anecdotes about theater musicians, and very often

very often, especially people related to the profession. yes they are as in the case there from the musicians. they are short jokes that i already knew, they tell with special gusto i draw the whole this exposition here. that is, they immerse you so much, in general, what is happening. you know, there are also theatrical tales, real theatrical tales, and which are then told. like a joke, and it was right there in the theater, and there are even people who saw these stories, and you know what else there are jokes for. i have several of these that have been with me virtually all my life. i remember zhenya morgulis telling me the polar. i know that you love musical jokes gather. i really collected just such musical ones in order to spend the evening well in my environment. i'll throw you one musical anecdote, a son comes from school and his father says to his father. sorry two balls. today i said, in what subject in zoluk. what's with two points? well, you know, they asked who has

the biggest balls, well, i said that the elephant, well, that's right, son. it's logical, he 's big, yes, it turned out to be pap that i got a good job and a deuce i got here, son, the science of running, live , learn, here he is such slow waltzes wrote. shulevich threw a big hello to everyone when the son comes to his father and says, dad, what is incompetence and indifference. he says, i don’t know, i don’t give a damn, and about the musical, uh, well, one of the most, probably, the oldest when uh, well, friends are gathering one says, and i wo n’t go to the opera with you. tonight says why are you the premiere? well, he tells me yesterday rabinovich got drunk, and that's nonsense. and this, as immediately after e, favorite topic after all - this

association gave you clinging to some detail. she immediately runs you memory and he flies out when he says, uh, a group of men took his wife yesterday, put on a cult on a hike. he says no, the warning is evg. eny onegin full house full house and that means the jew leans over to the neighbor and says. no, i see. please forgive me, but the lena jew, no, not a jew. excuse me, but the nanny is jewish. yes, yes, jewish, bravo nanny is one of the best in recent times. i'm stating a fact, really good jokes. yes, and even just the number of jokes that people now tell when they meet has fallen dramatically

, that’s all, really. so it's all a fact takes. here, you understand? it's for these gadgets that everyone paid attention. yes, any family dinner. that's how you look from the outside all this birthday. it's the same holidays. and big holidays. here comes the event. our lenochka is there, dear, happy anniversary. that's it, half of the guests. so here's another time, so that valery syutkin sings there, you don’t immediately dance right away, such a story, and they all stand like that. this will help us all. it seems to me that in the theater you can do this intelligently, before saying that you don’t use phone. change because this is a real case, it did not happen to me. one of my friends went to portugal and there the national art of fado is such a dance, a mixture of flamingo , portuguese chanson with elements of flamenco. in general, he observes and began to film

what was happening on the phone. suddenly the owner of the establishment says so, don’t take off, he usually raises his head like that, usually in such people, karabas-barabas , so that everyone can understand alex, the fight for in films about the mafia is such a terrible person, he knows his face, go- he says this, don’t take it off, and suddenly a smile breaks into your face and says. yes, do not shoot here, showing on the heart you carry more. and so, it seems to me that from such a tube transmission, of course, more over the past few years, a joke is better. eh, in my opinion. he directly about our meeting today about our life comes to event agencies, a rich jew, and they say, we need a barbitsu holiday, but not one that was casual and well-family. and so the whole world, the press wrote that we made the coolest holiday agency, you came to the address we are the coolest most, how do you like this barmisu at the north pole. he

says yes, he was in the south and in africa, you give me mega ideas, he says, well, there is one. well, it's very expensive very expensive we are interested in, come on. on the iss, the ships of elon musk and joseph bezos are throwing guests into orbit with our more powerful rockets on the ground. i throw in an alcoholic snack and my favorite place in the joke and the musician also has a party going upstairs , the world press is space barmitsev. for the first time in history. jews come to pay extra for unforeseen expenses. very sad silence. the agency pays extra money, something is not right, everything is fine, the world press to you no complaints. well, to be honest, you know we won’t like it, how didn’t we like it? why well, how do you say? do you understand? there is no

atmosphere. it seems to me that the anecdote retains a real atmosphere, here is a friendly one , continuing the conversation about what the character is. yes, there are characters. and i don't even understand? why exactly were they worthy? yes, it’s understandable, there babkin played chapaev there, that is, such a movie character vasily ivanovich petka appeared. yes, they also added there and for some reason, when other characters were needed. and furmanov and a yes, that is, so that such a corpse of the cake would be full. yes, this roller was distributed. yes, well, there was a huge number of different works. yes, and what happened next. well, i'm talking cinema now. yes and about some kind of classic there work. why are they getting alone? yes, there are gay jokes, and others no why. e lieutenant rzhevsky - these are the heroes of jokes. yes , there is nata simple, yes, and they are somehow

together all the time there somewhere like that eyebrows. but , uh, there are no others. why didn't chuk and huck have such characters there? why goosebumps and gena are very talented. no, i need something like this, for example, cheburashka and gena have why the chuvash genes are good, i have a favorite anecdote, when it means that cheburashka comes and tells gena to us there that he swept an orange and passed it on for the holiday. here are 10 pieces for each sowing, he says, wait. a how does this thing work? how is it for everyone, maybe for everyone? he says gena, don't start, that's your eternal whining. why what, how i ate my families no, but i don’t remember, the beginning of the joke. i remember the end. i was always very amused that gena was saying something to cheburashka and saying, cheburashka, can you hear me? gena look at me, how can i not hear you. well, in fact, everyone

that, well, there are some provided that there is something pressing this cheburashka. well, anyway. uh, let's continue. here are genes and cheburashka became, and the wolf and the hare, yes, that is, well, they are also there, as if they still have a forest for this. here are a lot of anecdotes. that's it about the forest. here's grace, but for some reason, here, heroes of some works of stirlitz cinema. that's why and this was such a powerful event, let's say in terms of cinema, of course. yes, but just so much so that a hero appeared. there, this one brought in, he brought in not even an anecdote. and one that is quieter. i am the genre. that's where we say stirlitz became early in the morning. remember? yes, it was the debut of the romanian scout and that's it. ok, more steel come up with jokes about the calm, which are no german, but relationships. i remember in the nineties everyone laughed at me to tell me something. here i am. listen to the logic of the

anecdote stirlitz was walking along the gas tank, an egg fell on his head mmm. since the ingenious , remember, well there, uh, in addition to the film itself, the reception, uh, so it seems to me that the black-and-white picture is the most credible. here it was known or running. here is some additional information. this is a completely new scenario plan, because, uh, this is by the way from gadgets. it's just that time is changing was slicing was, that there sagittarius noticed from the window of the muzzle, he closed the window and the muzzle disappeared. yes , some funny stuff. well, for a long time i went for mushrooms out of season. i thought that all the faces sat down in a snowdrift. the pebbles shoved in and ran away. the question

is why doesn't this happen today? why do such really, uh, some kind of events in terms of cinematography appear? why are there no jokes about avatars there, for example, about some why no e about some new cartoon characters and some smeshariki have already appeared there and so on and so on degradation, in general, of the state itself. well, as if not to come up with absolutely correct pressure. here is an absolutely perfect example. e, they noticed there is no time, e time to work on what you are here, we mean for this we must immediately issue a short one when the musicians. uh, today new ones appear, i say, come on guys , i'll help you how to make a song. i

say, yes, there was no better than some kind of hack, we will repost more and more likes more likes, well, less work on the fact that hmm this should sound somehow. maybe it's not not in it’s a matter of work, but in the state of mind, maybe it’s just that the people have somehow become squeezed, because look, here, uh, again, he doesn’t blame anyone for anything. there in gadgets, there and so on. well, such a given. yes, we have become slaves of this box. yes, that is, uh, the first thing an adult wakes up is this phone, but look, it seems to me that people have stopped visiting. here, well, they began to walk less often, because of this, as a result. yes, they began to communicate less. uh, including, but funny stories when they tell it is in this world that such a short genre is born, as they are for a year, maybe after all. uh, well, through our podcast here. yes, we will try somehow. uh, well, not like reaching out to people. but still

, uh, to suggest not to forget not to forget. here, uh, it's a good time to visit there to invite guests. tell jokes. tell stories about what happened to him that wasn't funny from here. maybe they will be born. here, as it were, something new, because , by the way, i think that musical in collectives and in the theater, this remains, because even when you work, because this is a collective, the concept of a collective. yes, here i suddenly come, and young artists tell me jokes that my dad still tells there, when the director collects, uh, the corpse and says, so look. the play was bad. the artists at the rehearsal poorly rehearsed booze booze. little money was given for the performance. and the performance turned out to be bad, and so that the podcast of jokes on

the same positive note, yes, move to the finals and our program, that the impression is still in the audience was left with hope for more and talented programs, and not the one that we built today, although it is in my opinion. it turned out very, naturally, like a joke. well, at least, we are very sincerely open, talk about all this to embrace the immensity. but nonetheless. we are not familiar. i have a question for you: you rested in sochi in the sixty- eighth year. well, how many years ago was that? well, who, but if i have a filing cabinet, if you're interested, i'll take a look and answer you. yes, i'm wondering now, for a second, the file cabinet of the sixty-eighth year, and in what month in august? yes, i rested here it is written rested. yes? tell a man, sochi during the holidays. you had a meeting with a girl galina how do you say? well, who remembers some years? how long has it been? well, let's go, i'm in the filing cabinet, if you need it, please give it. yes, yes, natasha, among others

, was a farce, tell me, in august 68 in sochi , with this girl galina, you have, damn it, intimate in ours i remember the same. well, how much? well, you basically need to know that yes, you need to know well, i'll see. so yes, there were, yes, so i'm her husband and this is me i don't like it categorically, don't boil, don't boil, krutyak, look, i also have it written. i liked it. yes, well, the form, i do n’t even know, uh, why should you ask respect from the audience, but did it pass or vice versa, you wanted to sleep, and most importantly, that after our program after this night podcast you were in a good mood. tell jokes. collect jokes. and we will try to keep it. uh, take them with you for later. good night. see you again. bye.