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that's all for now, see you soon. as you know, we understand everything in sports and medicine, and in politics everyone understands this. there is another area that everyone uses, but no one understands, what is it about. this is the very area in which i am in love and which has now become my second life, my second destiny for the rest of my life. this is aviation. our whole destiny is there and we all strive to make something better, something more beautiful and something higher. let's try. meet me in the cockpit today will be
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such a familiarization introductory flight, i will show you the landing of the plane, in some amazingly strange weather conditions at different airports at night during the day in the fog, from this we will start a conversation about what is with us happens at the same delightful moment when we rise into the air ahead of me. sheremetyevo tower 65 135 permission to launch tayanka, 52, 135, sheremetyevo tower good afternoon, i allow launching to parking lot 5 , dear citizens of passengers. welcome aboard flight 1234 training flight we are pleasantly surprised that you have agreed to participate with us. on this training flight. have a nice trip. we are always ready to help you
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enjoy your flight on our aircraft. tower 32-135. performer 0.6 the central one is getting ready to take off, you need these two handles of the engine control handle, firstly, put the flaps in the first position in order to make it more convenient or easier to take off there, then we carefully add engine speed. here i am doing it. the car started off it should be noted that now we are flying in ideal conditions in a professional language. it's called a lump
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and here we are with you on the spot. now we will try to show landing. let's say if it's raining, thunderstorm and wind we'll set the conditions. but not to be. the pilot pilot is obliged to follow this cross and this square must be exactly in the cross, then everything will be fine, so that it does not happen. it 's not easy, but nonetheless.
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well, a little more complicated, but nevertheless, and this is possible, now let's try to land the plane. when visibility is poor, let's say fog , i practically won't see anything. difficult. it is necessary to study, my only guideline is the device that is in front of me. i need to keep this little black square right in the center of christ, and if i do this, everything will be fine. flaps spoilers flaps
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2 135 ready for landing 06 central clears and we will show, now one of the most difficult landings. one of the most difficult lanes is located in the mountains for landing at the bhutan airport, which i am talking about now. i say. you need to get a special license for people who have received such a license in the world , only about 20 people all. let's try here we fly, here there, here is the slope and the saddle of the slope. we go down the riverbed straight a couple of words
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today we will touch on a surprising little topic, to whom we know we will talk about psychology. our guest is julia valentina slavinskaya. and valentina hello how do i introduce you? who am i talking to today? medical psychologist uh , ph.d. touch this categories of people. yes that's right. all three of the categories you listed are those aviation personnel who undergo an assessment
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of their health, including mental health, medical flight export commission, and are being tested by a psychologist. e. well, here, if very briefly succinctly, the first part is the minimum part consists of two blocks. this is an assessment of the personality of the mental state of the individual, the type of response, the prevailing and so on. and of course, mental stability and the second block is already the highest mental functions are cognitive functions, that is, roughly speaking, pvc professionally important qualities will be a specialist doctor. well, nevertheless, do you have a non-kayphobia with me? some feeling. what do you decide, after all, fate? well, as an honored pilot, he has nothing but the sky , nothing else at all. and now you need to pass sentences to say or just write in person, it’s unlikely, but still write not
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fit for cell work, as a psychologist in itself is not an expert, that is. let's immediately clarify this point, i do not write in my conclusion. eligible-not eligible to perform flight work. i write about whether and has or does not have contraindications. in my opinion, from the side of the psychology of psychological characteristics, in order to fulfill their professional duties, the psychologist works together with a neurologist and a psychiatrist, and the neurologist makes expert final decisions. it 's always this all over the country. there are certain criteria. this is a very long conversation. there is a whole guide, written down. well , for years, when a number of features may indicate that their professional duties of a person, even with a high level of seniority and experience. maybe it can be corrected, what this may be due to atherosclerosis of the cerebral vessels age-related changes in the blood flow nutrition of the brain and the quality of work it is clear that up to 40-45 the compensatory capabilities of the human brain are very high, as a rule, even some areas of the brain work. let's just say not
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very much. e, effective qualitative compensation. all the same, they happen over the years - this quality may decrease. excuse me, you work with pilots after all civil aviation clearly. this is civil aviation. these are the pilots of the dispatcher, earlier flight attendants also passed us examinations. e had either relations with people who, say, entered e, some educational institutions about the aviation profile. first, the student. always passes professional psychological selection. it is always impossible without this, it does not happen that someone enters a flight school and does not pass a psychologist. that doesn't happen. this is the first . the next stage, when he meets with a psychologist, is of course. migratory practice before the start of real flights, that is, when the simulator theoretical training ends, flight practice begins, and then, naturally, when he was employed in the company, he came to the airline, and he sat as a co-pilot, so, on the right cup and at that second behind
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him. 100 200 300 passengers this is the feeling, what does it mean in terms of psychological stress, what does it mean for a person, how obvious is it or is it different for everyone? first, everyone is very individual. secondly, you see, here i’ll say such a moment right away so that something is clear, it’s clear, but i work in an examination, not consulting. it is to a counseling psychologist that a person does share his experiences, feelings, and so on to us. they come with one deepest installation to say that everything is fine with him. he is perfectly adapted wonderfully, socialized with no nervous mental instability. even answering questions. here is the leader in the main questionnaire, for example, let's say the work is given to me at the cost of significant stress. majority answers negative, that is, no voltage. kaif pleasure. super. here is my most favorite, such a component of life, and so on and so forth. but when you start talking. naturally, they understand what is at stake. that is, as tension as
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mobilization. of course, the flight landing, well, it would be strange not to understand this. it would already be for example, about the immaturity of the psyche. if a person did not give himself a report on this. we had a case when a girl, a pelatese, was the second pilot. exactly, after retraining for a new type of aviation equipment, she refused to passing psychological selection and a psychiatrist is not mine. that's exactly what you were talking about, that is, realizing that this is not a light aircraft. and that's all she's risking her own life with. well, the cost of the aircraft. yes, it's quite cynical. that's realizing that this is hmm a huge board and a large number of passengers for life, which she is responsible for even being a co-pilot. she said that's what she came up with. she feels not mine left here, but units. here are just a few, i met more cases when a person tries to deny. this is the fear. there was a case of the second course of flight
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pilots know nothing about at all, or rather pilot instructor. e that the girls even, probably, are somehow more mature, more consciously , more qualitatively, more scrupulously and responsibly approaches the theoretical training, pilots more cautiously well , it is clear that traditionally this may be closer to the male profession. well, i just want to say that girls also go into this profession with such a steel rod, you know, that is , this component is closer to the male. almost all of them have a type of reaction. and how widespread is the phobia of not being afraid of flying. i have in mind from the point of view of the profession, let's say flying and from the point of view of passengers , this phobia is very common - the fear of flying. well, we are all from the point of view of speeding up the rhythm and so on loads of this disturbance of sleep and wakefulness are not healthier, therefore, and any
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phobia is a disorder based on the nervous system, therefore people are prone to an anxious type of reaction to depressive reactions. there 's even a little to list no, well, anxiety. it's just to drown it out, like it doesn't. this is working with a psychotherapist from working as a specialist. can you silence it medication, that is, to dull its manifestation. well, as if in everyday life, namely to get rid of anxiety. she is not subject. this is what you know besvoda just worries me. i'm just afraid of this feeling of irrational fear, fear of some events, the possibility of some kind of offensive that might happen. something bad, something terrible. this is anxiety in its purest form. here, and fear is always objective, here. i'm afraid of spiders. not me, i mean, i'm not afraid of them. this is what i mean in general. exactly fear of public speaking. yes, that is, fear has an object. i know what i'm afraid of, but
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anxiety is not anxiety - she is more than that age. what i'm afraid of is understandable. e question. why am i afraid of this? but with this it is necessary to work, this is a subjective anxiety to go out to specific fears. that is, for example, there is the same phobia of flight. yes, we're going out on m-m. here, again, this is with a psychotherapist working with a psychologist. and when you need to subject your fears to understand what you are specifically afraid of, then get your memories associations. here, uh, delve into your, let's say, conscious and unconscious, by the way, speaking, also here to find the reason from where this fear was born and further. do you understand to survive to live? i think that, that is, it is known. i came up with the idea that a person is afraid of what he does not know, or this is one of this, probably one of the parties. in that sense, for example, let's say, again. uh, phobia is irrational and uncontrollable. this is a larger global feeling of specific fear, when a person knows what
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he is afraid of. yes, this is where the flaw comes into play. information, when we get acquainted with our fear, we understand. what are the risks? how much what are the possible consequences? how to avoid them? let's say the fear of the first flight can be formulated as follows, but this is not a phobia, this is fear. that is, this is a normal reasonable such an internal barometer. here is an understanding that some outcomes follow my actions. and i have to understand what i should do in what situation to avoid these risks. fear and phobia, you say that these are different things. what is the difference phobia is disorder. this is a mental disorder. this disease is a disease that already belongs to psychiatry, not to psychology. phobia is without object and rational. that is, i have a general understanding of what i'm afraid of there is the fear of a closed space, that is, a person is not in a closed space, but he knows that he is afraid to be there. and perhaps, let's say the most er, understandable, er, the criterion of phobia is avoidant behavior. that
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is, uh, if a person is afraid of something at the level of a phobia, he will avoid facing this situation. well, for example, claustrophobia. yes, i'm afraid to ride in an elevator. here i will walk to the tenth floor. even when there is no time at all, but i will not be in the elevator at all, that is, by any means. i understand this, i had several acquaintances who were so afraid of flying that they refused any even very profitable offers. yes, they agreed. only if he let, even much, longer, he will go by train. uh, sail on ships and so on, as long as you don’t fly in any case to get sick on the day of departure. that's so sickening suddenly quite bad, suddenly i poisoned a wonderful occasion. but if we're talking about it, you'll guess do i need to fly for work, well, accessories for life, just, well, you need to fly, and the more he flies probably this fear should be extinguished. but it is
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not extinguished, if the phobia is here, if we speak directly, it is very terminological, then there will be such an expression of avoiding behavior that it is unlikely that it will rise even if necessary. and one more thing is clear that it is possible to work with psychotherapists, by the way, speaking, hypnosis, they say it works very well. they call there. uh, let's just say, well, they're programming for amnesia. it is this feeling of fear just before the flight that fixes and motivates you for the benefit that you get from this flight. well, the speed of moving the solution of their questions to be there on vacation, in the place where this accident was going to. well, they say it works, but psychotherapists, let's say, work in gestalt. well, there it is quite different there , namely, a collision with one's fear of experiencing his understanding. here is his irrationality collision with him. well how here experience is face to face, and again he departs from such things of representation. that is, for many years i was convinced that it was right, but suppose you drink 100 g before the
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flight and pay yourself off here, you know, well, from the point of view, as a specialist, of course, i can’t advise this, because the altitude is hypoxia stress. well, that is, you are already tense here e even the amount of alcohol you are used to and well, as if understanding how you experience drinking this kind of alcohol there in such a volume there at a height can give out somewhat different unexpected reaction. not the fact that it will be relaxation getting dissatisfaction from the flight. tell me from the point of view of a psychologist, is it easy to determine among the huge number of passengers among 100-150-200 people who are afraid of flying, who are not, because you will agree that the worst thing that can be is a panic on board such a thing can happen during turbulence . during some evolutions of the aircraft, unpredictable for the body. he can suddenly give an explosive reaction and provoke it the rest can be determined who is afraid to fly, then no. it's easy in general. well
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, here, probably, only those external signs, such as tension holding on to the armrests, compressed postures, such a look, she is directly glassing at one point, passengers often approach the flight attendants. and at this time, when i had some opportunity to orient myself. well, because that's what can rub? i also do this, some requests, they directly carry out exactly this, they say they fit and say you know. i 'm afraid, i'm afraid that i will experience panic attack. i have never had this. here i am , right here and here, i didn’t sleep well and i’m very worried, i’m going through this, and well, it’s just that the flight attendant means this from the point of view of a psychiatrist or from the point of view of a person who knows hypnosis, or at least a trained person, you can at least predict from his point of view. how to extinguish this reaction, and not to issue. let's break down the concepts, there is the concept of panic, and there is the concept of a panic attack, a panic attack is
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experienced subjectively and individually, so i felt that i was sweating paler. at my head is spinning. i'm afraid i'll vomit there. my breath was squeezed or it was hard to breathe there, in general, the fear of this sudden death and so on does not infect a person with this. that's the person you need to approach the flight attendant. in general, as i understand it in different companies. this is being done to varying degrees, but in preparation for the human factor. he is given such preparation, that is, from a warm cup of tea to blankets, so that, well, warm up, this is some kind of feeling of security right up to right. are you specifically having a panic attack? i can tell you to what extent they are proficient in these things, but technicians, of course, have grounding, that is, to start talking to a person. feel your hands. feel, legs will not now it's all in detail. yes, there to even out breathing. it doesn’t even matter how many directly clear breathing techniques give meaning there, even not in this. the main thing is that he hears what he is doing. as he breathes and began to breathe, that is, a deep breath. yes, the contact is to speak here to pronounce
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it all to return him so that he begins to feel his body. well, mostly technology. physicality, flight attendants are now being trained for this. yes, it cooks, that is, it makes the airline at the level of flight attendant training. they have theoretical and practical training on the human factor. and medicine is given there, this anti-terrorist training is given there, because now there is a lot, as it were, a problem, well , see it too. uh, try to say the risks are possible. well, i did not go deep into this topic. i think for god's sake, interrupt, we will touch this topic with people who have a professional skill. uh it's a service security. but i remembered from the word that a person is afraid of what he does not know solely for the reason that in many airlines of the world there is a monitor in front of the seat, the fpv camera works, and during takeoff during landing during
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some brain evolution. that's how a person is made. i see what's happening. i'm all set for it and i'm less so. well, to put it mildly, in quotation marks, my body was frightened to a lesser degree. suddenly suddenly finds himself in a strange unusual situation, because i already psychologically, i suddenly saw what was going to happen now. if it were clear on this fpv camera that evolution would now take place. there, let's say 30 ° to the right or 15 ° to the left, if it were a second, suddenly they would show me right on the picture, just the nose fell into the plane. and now i'm already ready for this, and already even people who are afraid to fly. i think they will worry about this to a lesser extent , i'm wrong. well, here for me as for diagnostics, of course there is. here is this moment that people with a predominance of various
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response types perceive this kind of information differently. so here is this question about the volume of this information and how much it calms them down or vice versa raises a number of questions that follow some information, about which they do not understand, so here hmm definitely, probably hard to say, here but for most even psychotherapists advise to find out as much as possible before the flight, and the company some feedback from passengers. secondly, take a lot on yourself. i mean, let's say some. well don't give something now they try on board to give out some opportunities for watching a movie. here our brain rarely concentrates. maybe in parallel on two tasks, so i became interested in the plot, the fear of myself doing something receded. for me, for example, flights. eh, i love to fly. here. well, there is probably just sit and think hard. possible outcomes, probably, and i would probably be able to get scared, my laptop friend. i always take some work with me. here in that volume, and there is a chic word for work and a table and
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an armchair, comfortable. from this it follows that the amount of other information that is definitely distracting. yes yes even when panic attacks are taken out, the main moment there is to make contact with a person that he heard you began to react to your words and began to give some kind of response. now this is already returning to uh distract yes distract from what frightens him, including getting him out of the state; the main thing is to get him out of the state. by the way, we raised the issue of diluting a panic attack and panic. that's about a panic attack. we talked such a sudden, coming effective state anxiety. that's what a person usually fears in a panic attack. well, this is the fear of sudden death, and panic is already hmm a term from social psychology. it's like the reaction of the crowd this is one something. well , let's say in space, well, he had some doubts, something seemed to him there, that someone else picked it up by plane. well, there, in the middle of the plane, they didn’t
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really figure it out, but they also got excited and began to say something. children from these conversations, flight attendants began to cry. we ran around the cabin more actively, so that who is most excited there to come up somehow to calm down. and now it's all picked up, picked up by this reaction of the crowd. this is panic, not panic like that, but panic. well , honestly, i can say how much i haven’t flown, i really haven’t seen this. it's kind of a social mechanism. tell me at all. uh, a lot of people are outraged, and rightly so, by the way, or many are still worried about the children on board. especially small behavior of children on board. well, what do you say? i'm here again to take responsibility, as they say psychotherapists, that is, try to set up a raid and occupy yourself with some such business, in order to, as it were, as much as possible abstract from possible, so to speak , unpleasant moments, but from the point of view of the profession, it means that you probably need to somehow distract the children too . so it is necessary to present some toys, some entertainment elements on board, in order to somehow
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occupy the children with something, of course, and responsibility, although the first pilot is responsible for the child on board. if, for example, let's say the parents are not with him , but there are parents the pilot is carrying responsibility. well, actually there is. yes , if, for example, a child is sent alone on a flight, well, such a need, parents can not fly with him, then up to, in my opinion , the age of majority or up to 16 years old here. unfortunately, i can't say for sure right now. here he is, under the responsibility of the first pilot, flies the first pilot of his duties. well , of course, if through flight attendants, of course, as if not in personal contact. no , i would be the responsibility of the ship's commander always absolutely and 100% on board until acceptance the toughest decisions, but probably a prayer that is alone without parents. it's still a responsibility. this is of course, i think, but in general this is the responsibility of parents. naturally, as if, well, parents should somehow be able to give in to contact with their own child. wait, i'm going to ask you a question that
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has nothing to do with you personally. of course it doesn't . but here we are passengers with you. yes, we both love to fly. we are food passengers on board. it ’s also distracting, of course, it means, uh, this food should be, well, the quality is understandable, but it should be probably so varied and in some ways different from terrestrial nutrition that my interest in it is the very thing that distracts from my phobia from my fears of flying. well, somehow i switch to, look what's interesting your look on board, what an interesting thing. well, including it is generally considered. physiological organisms begin to engage in this work, that is, reception, processing. this is already a distraction , at least reducing the concentration on your fear. well, what am i talking about? gaining mass it would seem trifles. which
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will distract from what we are talking about, even the packaging of food itself, the mold of this food , newspapers, magazines in front, standing camera, uh, which broadcasts, let's say evolution or, let's say, in general, some flight parameters all together and will lead to or it should lead to the fact that, god forbid, it will not cause this panic on board, it will bring down the tension initially and lead to the very setting that everyone should set initially. i'm not flying. i came to enjoy. after all, this is something that is deprived on earth and i just need to look out the window. i see things that i will never see in alignment. so, on the one hand. yes, on the other hand. here's from my experience. here someone loves to fly, right now he loves to fly, and someone flies, well, by necessity without panic, without panic attacks, without any kind of diet. behavior on board or
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inappropriate but not enjoying here is an example of my three children. if there is this time, the eldest son, the first flight at 9 years old, gave such a panic reaction the day before, mom we will definitely go to him. we will break, i'm afraid to fly. let's not go, i say, let's say, okay? take it away, you understand? let's make a deal then. we board the plane. we sit down in a chair. if you really feel like you can't. you and i are returning to the airport building, yet dad will fly to egypt as we planned to leave. well, i think, here and now he rises a set, of course, the whole ball, shrunk 9 years ago, this was we go into the salon. he somehow places. that's all there is tension. well i waited until there's not much time already remains to say. well, what are we going to go out? or else they say the engines will already start. we need to make a decision. here. well, i see, somehow he is the same. well, i don't think it will . here the proposal to leave was not followed by the flight back, already in pleasure, was already wandering around the cabin. everything is there. that's what you could see everything, walked, tried the middle daughter under 18 years old. i put it, she is such a
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coward with us. here, until the age of 18, i flew only because it was very necessary, right here, tears came into the plane right in my eyes. out of fear, then commented on what he says, i'll just calm down, suddenly he announced, what speed what height is the first pilot i have again this return to reality, well, there was no panic attack. just here is a normal reasonable tension. first experience situation. indeed, no matter how standard, in general, uh, a feeling of anxiety and fear is a normal, protective reaction of a person. this must be understood as normal fear in a normal way, as if the volume of the formed feeling of anxiety is a normal reaction. this is a protective reaction of the body. so i'm not protected. i'm at a height, it's normal to be afraid of another step and you'll break it. something natural. so, any quality of it can be sort of, well, as we psychologists do it, but decomposed, well, at least on a three-point scale, the deficient amount in this quality is the norm and is already hypertrophied expressed. well, as always , good in the golden mean. that is, any
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quality must be laid down, formed, developed, so that a person can use it, how to ask with his adaptation of socialization, and so on, is deficiently developed. here's a reasonable risk. here it is i live for adrenaline. i'm here for vivid impressions. eh, fearless. this person is not for me. this is about not quite awareness about immaturity, it is possible about some kind of infantilism, mentally, and so on. here is the fearless man. eh, i don’t really like this very concept, but i don’t really like a brave person, that is, understanding the possible risks of taking responsibility, understanding what could be, what could be the outcome of certain consequences, this is one thing. well, it is clear that the hypertrophied level of anxiety is up to free, floating anxiety. that there are, again, irrational about nothing justified. it's just scary for the possibility that something bad might happen, that is, it's scary from nothing. specifically, it's scary, of course, such people. this is the biggest risk i have ever taken. perhaps you will agree with me, that is, it is obvious. i banned it at the legislative level. we need
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to stop writing about the terrible. the number of publications about where what happened in the air, where did someone crash with whom else, the rest is unimaginable, nothing like this has ever happened. if today start writing. how many car accidents and disasters occur on the roads of the country, then people will simply stop driving, because it will simply be scary. here i recently held the faculty of extreme psychology for students. there was a master class and we gave statistics. just think about 2000 years 10 years, and such figures lead to eight thousand dead 300,300 episodes. air accidents. here is a plane crash such a household concept, no matter how strange the level is. here are the accidents. naturally, the growth of eight thousand dead means dead. and if we say 21 years old, that’s just 21 years old statistics on traffic accidents 133,000
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accidents and 15,000 deaths can you imagine, there are 10 years and 8,000, and here 1 year, but the author ’s movement is somehow more, well, you know, it is associated with the surface earth. why does the spanish attacks display? feel your legs first, feel your back. feel your hands grounding. this is the normal state of a person. he walks the earth. he is not a bird, he does not fly, he walks, therefore, someone needs this separation. this is the desire to break away something traditional, some kind of superiority technique there, there aerodynamics dermatism, in the end, but someone doesn’t need it at all. here and here they are, well, either they fall down all the fabic experiences, or they just do it with maximum tension within the framework, as it were, of the norm yes, there without manifestations of any such extreme e manifestations. here, but it is not obtained from this pleasure. here. naturally. i say it again.
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