full force is running our two battalions. and alla aitemir they are already, but in the zone and most importantly, here are the families we support the families of the children. a new tranche of military assistance in the amount of 500 million euros will be allocated in ukraine from the european peace fund, an agreement was reached following the meeting of eu foreign ministers in brussels, the head of the european jazz diplomacy said, according to him, another 45 million euros will go to train the ukrainian army in poland, thus the amount of military assistance kiev from europe is approaching 4 billion euros, and the total is 50, which as for the difficult issue for germany regarding the supply of leopard tanks, according to baral, germany does not block exports and does not interfere with the supply of other states. the west presented an ultimatum to serbia, forcing them to choose between isolation and recognition of kosoy with his entry into the un, serbian president

aleksandra vučić said in an address to the nation that if serbia does not accept the terms of the new franco-german negotiation plan , they will close the road to the european union or step of all investments in the statements of the mind pressure on his country comes first from the conflict in ukraine and all because of belgrade's refusal to join the sanctions against russia. they have their own trip of the day and this defeat of russia and everything that stands in their way will be swept away. no, no illusions of a rational approach to solving the problem. no, turkey does not support sweden's application to join nato, this was stated by the country's president receta erdogan, he motivated this decision of the saturday action near the turkish embassy in stockholm, which was allowed by the local authorities, where the far-right politician koran erdogan noted those who allow. the head of the swedish swedish ministry of defense was going to turkey this week to answer for their actions, but the visit

was canceled. such news to this minute. see you soon. girls, i wanted to welcome you to the studio for our must- read podcast. today. we will talk about tolstoy's novel anna karenina, i would be interested to talk about the modern view of karenina's plot. i think this is very interesting, and that's why i called you, because i think you will be wonderful interlocutors in this particular topic, and ekaterina barbanyaga is a writer and author of books about tolstoy, and an expert on tolstoy elina is gridny, an

art critic. the great dead of the novel. we gathered as a women's team because i think that man a should not talk about this topic. she is very delicate. yes, we will talk today about adilter, after all, the novel is based on. therefore, i believe that it would be appropriate to talk about, let's say, the modern context of this situation with women. yes, we are all married or have been married. we have children. we are, so to speak, adult experienced women, and we already have some kind of formed point of view on this novel. let me first mention that the novel on karenin is considered the prose standard and the pinnacle of literature and russian literature. william fawkner, considered this novel a masterpiece and, uh, named it three times as the best musical novel, name three best

novels, anna karenina said three times. we also know that nabokov was a big fan of this novel. and i also know that this novel. in a sense, a mystery, because we still do not understand. why and here is the theme of adelter female infidelity, so to speak, the fall of a woman in society, huh? why is it the benchmark of the most widely read film adaptation of the novel so far? uh, here is the pinnacle of literary art elina , please tell us about the lectures starting with the letter. i know you are a big fan of these lectures. yes, you know, in general, a sideways fan, in principle, is still very large, of course, if they asked me, i would name anna karenina and other shores. well i don't they ask how faulkner does not know why, and so, and if we talk about lectures. nabokov 's lectures on russian literature are excellent and, in general, amazing. by the way, i am anna karenina.

i read these lectures many times, and these lectures, probably twice, and in my youth completely . well, literally, and then i can say quarreled. what opinion, what opinion is absolutely certain, that nabokov opinion. and karenina as a character, let's say, as a woman, that she is the brightest , kindest, purest, a character in russian literature. nabokov somehow explained. why is this novel standard and what did tolstoy manage to catch, well, let's say, he explains, rather roman and e. well, since i'm still angry a little on one side, i'll tell you praises . yes, but karenin, not noticing, some obvious things that, it seems to me, lev nikolayevich obviously pokes in the nose, er, the writer. thank you very much for this, you would argue with nabokov that she is the purest a person brightens up when you are 40 years old, and you

are a psycho-treated adult with children , nothing annoys you after a certain stage in life. and in principle, you do not even condemn anyone. well, let's say that's my opinion, but to her as a person has changed. by the way, i heard that this novel is wonderful because it can be re-read. it changes and changes every time, maybe that's what it's all about. when is this story that its interesting to reread? katya, are you an expert? uh, according to tolstoy, you are an accomplice, let's call it that, yes books uh about anna karenina karenina history of anna karenina. and tell me, please, how is there any parallel with the biography of tolstoy in e. this story of anna karenina, we will now talk a little about this and then briefly describe the plot, what is the main line going on. yes, the indigenous novel is simply anna karenina - it is known that there are two frames and therefore, if we are talking about the history of konstantin levin, then we understand, in fact , that a lot of sweatshirt lines are

present there, if we are talking about the history of anna karenina, then in this karenin line, rather tolstoy acted as an artist who, of course, took prototypes from life, but to say that such a situation happened in his life or he was somehow personally acquainted with it, but, probably not , and in this novel lay down. well, a few lines, yes, which happened in reality there with his relatives and acquaintances, including, uh, with his sister maria nikolaevna yes, uh, her family history. she married her relative valerian tolstoy, who cheated on her with everyone, including there with uh, servants with young ladies. and it is even known that when they opened the attic, otherwise they found the corpses of small children, that is, some kind of nightmare, but this is not very similar to the story of anna, but the point is that in her life, but there was a story of male betrayal and from this nightmare . she

fled abroad, where it already happened to her, in fact her love story, where she fell in love with this man. well, not like that, but almost young, yes, the french followed me and gave birth to a daughter from him, not marriage, and this is the story, but a daughter born out of wedlock and difficulties. her a representation in the light, yes, from what happened then, and this is vanya karenina. you can see this line, and lime in the case of anna pirogov herself, the girl who lived next door, and was a housekeeper, and bibikov landowner was his mistress. and so, when he found a noble origin of a noble woman, no, no, and when he decided to marry he was a widower with children, a decided to marry a second time. and then actually she was superfluous in this situation. and here she is, and hmm rushed into the thin one. yes, and rushed under

the train wrote a note, but that you will suffer, realizing your guilt. tolstoy came to honor the memory of the deceased woman. well , it happened not just before his eyes, but here nearby. and when it became known that there was a woman on the rails, he went to the anatomy. theater to look at went to anatomy. yes, that's what the writer means. he wanted to see all the details; he was generally very interested in death, how about an announcement. he was always very, well, curious in this matter, and therefore it was interesting for them to look, of course, at the body of a woman torn to pieces hmm oh, trains. yes, it is interesting that she does not give such an ugly death. let's put it this way, even though nabokov writes about the beauty of suicide anna karenina well kamon well, i don't know, in general there is no beauty in suicide. let's speak the truth. let's talk about the plot, that is, anna is a married woman with a child of 26 years old. yes, she meets

a voronsky guards officer. uh, falls in love with him 23. yes. well, actually not much, yo-my, when she says a boy, she is more likely to refer to him, because she is already a married woman with a child and her husband much older than her. well, how much rich is the husband, 46. well, she is 26, well, 20 years old. this is the difference husband works. e in the government and anna here is her e, so to speak, love her gulter. she, uh, decides. uh, let's say open to society, she does not hide it in this way, she slaps the public in her act, uh, which we can call an act. it is the desire of your love. uh, officially a to announce to the world. do i understand this correctly, that you can correct at that time in that era that tolstoy describes which he

the real epoch also recreates, and it is approximately the same, yes, there was a dilter everywhere and right and left, but high society understood that a there are certain rules for which you cannot. what would you tell me, what was the rule at that time that society met in salons, yes, that is, in fact, somehow, yes, living rooms. some kind of dinners, yes, which everyone gave, well, from the salon, that's where and with a man, a woman could not remain alone in front of our eyes. well, people, yes, that is, they should not have seen that someone is sitting in the corner and talking together or went into the next room communicates together, this immediately gave rise to a wave of rumors and was indecent. therefore, if there was communication between a man and a woman in restaurants, there were rooms. yes, and there are other places where this did not happen in front of people, respectively, lovers did not come to the theater together, sitting down. in the next lie. yes, it was not customary to come with

growth, in my opinion, here, firstly, yes, then he wants to. well, he doesn’t go with her, he doesn’t go, but she wants to be present with her man in, let’s say , secular public places, but this impossible, because the leader of society is a monk of another person. in general, society despised. well, she actually became a guy, yes, they stopped accepting her after she opened it. yes, this novel. eh, with fronsky they looked at her and whispered, that is, she actually turned into such a persona non grata, but turned into her voluntary, that is, she was warned. i correctly understand that it will be so even her husband warned him of the idea of ​​these in this situation. the princess of distress, tverskaya tells her the same thing, although betty herself is softly there speaking, good, but in principle, she lives in the world. she grandexe follows the rules of adilter. yes, what are they called of the soviet rule of the soviet dura, but anna is not. do you think we now have an

alder consequence rule. we can spend such a parallel to modern life. isn't everything the same, but imagine your own , let's say, well-known media companies, if we are talking about the light of that time, these are media faces, are you married to a man to fix? and you have a child, you start to openly get caught by the paparazzi in the photo together, and with some young. ah. well, let, well , not a mulatto. yeah i don't know a young musician, yeah, anyone who's a young rapper a young rapper is fine. oh great. and your husband, my little one tells you, of course, i understand everything, but i have already seen the rural guardians several times. yes, he brings me to the gossip column. we all know. well , first of all, don't make her grown men laugh. i'm your husband. i provide you with a child, and then knees, as

i understand it, i think this is about a child, it flashes several times in the book. yes, what will he do with him? thinks about bath. and of course, if anna's reputation is, of course, ruin, then this will affect the fate of the child trying. and there is such a proverb absolutely wonderful. i think in modern times it's the same, you can say, but karina says i'm talking about ladies. divorce at the very beginning when he thinks this is what will happen, he will leave her, then the next and then the next our circle will go, he cares and thinks, in general, the creation loves anna's husband. oh i think so. just imagine. yes what uh the husband of correction asks for the wife he provides for everyone and gives her the opportunity to hang out in the world and be just a beauty dress up dress up raise a child. he says i'll take you well to the child she brings up the governess's time. here is an earring, combed, washed, fed. she just tells him, hello seriously. choose outfits from paris yes, which cost a fortune. i ask you about one thing, so that she doesn’t laugh at me and at you in the world, so that it doesn’t get into the newspapers. it seems to me

that anna's act indicates that she despised these rules of secular delter. and in general, this structure of society is hypocritical. yes, everyone really changes everyone meets in a hotel on the water. but this is by no means the case and i agree with this. husbands and families, but it should be her, despising this color to get into it to strive, and stop deceiving her husband for two. in my opinion , divorce him, as karenin suggests that she marry bronsky, who also proposes this to her. by the way, the ravens talk about what she does when she goes to the opera. we cannot return to the light. and by the way, and she has a great option. vronsky takes her to the dacha. rather, he didn’t write to a dacha in a village outside the city that, and not both of her men and her husband or lover. they say anna don't do it, please, right. this says and vronsky both offer her some options. how can this situation? and

to be honest? let's deal with her. she doesn't. this is probably a manifestation of her character. do you think elina is a man when he is attracted to a woman. he thinks about that, intellectual is not important thinking. was to tolstoy that anna must be smart. must whether she be smart to like? but no, but it doesn’t matter for readers, the reader can draw his own conclusions whether she is stupid or smart, let’s say, and she seems to me to be just a narrow-minded woman, and quite charming, but if we talk about my opinion, that is, you think that she, uh, made this move, let's say, by announcing her romance when she started. uh, invite your lover home, yes, and going out with him into the house. she didn't expect it to have such consequences. she did not think about the consequences, because for a long time she was gets out of hand. well, why did she need it. and you know, it seems to me that these are absolutely

wonderful novels with step by step instructions. how to communicate, how to consider, and the narcissist is his manipulators. so you think anna is a narcissist. it's all written there in black and white. i can't refuse tolstoy, but i always have it. a counter question, and which of us is not a manipulator, we understand that anna destroys the lives of people around her, this is objective. she ruined the life of karenin, she ruined the life, perhaps her son seryozha she ruined the life of the bronnsky, because in the finale of the novel we realize that it is broken both men have lost their careers, son. uh, lost his mother had a psychological trauma there. that is, i understand that she has a bad effect on her environment. and perhaps this is the biggest sin. but uh, can we say that she, uh, commits uh, a conscious crime, that is, this is her manipulativeness, in what way does it manifest itself? i would

not say that she does it, directly consciously. that is, she wants to destroy all lives. so i think that at some point she just saw what she only wants and podsla to subordinate here to this desire all the circumstances and all the people that ruk want so and it will be so. yes, that's right, but is it about love, listen, but there is a certain paradigm, heroic. yes, uh, such a certain myth heroic hero destroys. uh, hmm, another world doesn't create a good enough world. yes, that is, his some kind of revolutionary act. uh, can change the world around us can we say that anna wants to change the world to change the hypocritical rules of society or not? no, i think it's on purpose, but he doesn't want to. so moreover, unless you change, does she build something new and good, that's the question. what

about work? with what i now have two comrade major? i should have comics for you. maybe for a long time since the onset of death, no more than 2 hours, they framed him again for the living, he is not a killer in each of these worlds. and when i do, awakening premieres a multi-part film from january 30 on the first only i enjoy. this is very good. you led me to this question. this is how she positioned herself. what do you

think, here tolstoy condemned anna if in life, and tolstoy talked with a woman who did this, he would have condemned her. i 'm sure of this. i am here too, but here he acts as the author of the novel, respectively, this is his heroine and they are in love. we love it and love reading it. i don’t think that he is directly in love with her, but he was there fascinated in a certain sense of expression, which is in this woman, and i don’t think that he wrote condemning her as a woman, but the version of the novel was called well done women . first back, that already everyone knows whether he is a fine fellow? yes, it's rough, really. do not forget that tolstoy is generally characteristic of irony. yes, for some reason we always forget about it. he was very human. yes, it’s incredible, read more e letters that they had in yasnaya polyana , such a family post office, where everyone wrote. some of my letters, notes, jokes

, read everything you could, i wrote something, lev nikolayevich, yes. you see, how much there really is such an irony yes, which is under this condemnation, that you won’t understand seriously he or he laughs at this. that's why i think he didn't judge. it is, but he understood that her the path leads her there. this is absolutely clear. it seems to me that the unambiguity of this position presents us with tolstoy as a moralist, because it is clear that if a person follows the path of violation there, for example, i do not know marriage vows and the rules of society. he necessarily goes to the death of aglaya, but we are all. um, actually, we are all social animals, we are social people. we live in a society. we live by certain rules. and as soon as we start to break them all, without offering. nothing new in return is carried away by his bright ideas . crowd, then, basically you find yourself in a really very disastrous situation. by the way, do not forget that anna manifesto, but

used morphine as a sleeping pill, as a means to calm down and why did she worry about how her relationship with the russian developed after they fled to italy difficult why because anna demanded proof love ah, men and so, who sacrificed their careers, yes, and so to speak, fit into this strange revolutionary situation. he, he went to meet her. so he stayed with her. he is not threw a leg to escape her to get a divorce, he takes responsibility, that is, a good man, by the way, behaves. in this case, very grateful during the book, but nonetheless at the end of them. uh, it feels like love. eh, she's gone. is there such a feeling or is it some kind of anna's fantasy? i think so. anna created this feeling in her relationship, because she is enu for the first time. yes, i experienced some strong feelings and

passion, when i didn’t think of copper here in men , which, probably, the problem is that he no longer had a choice. well, that is, she saw this bronsky and he got caught, as it were. yes, all my passion. although if there were any options, by the way, i think this is an interesting idea, because i also had the feeling of a root-bath, that she is very energetic, let's say. so there is something to say, the world has something to do? she has energy for some changes around and this energy is too much for karenin, he absolutely does not absorb it. and these are like when her potential was brun's, which gave her a run, please, as katya said, who who got in the way, to that, she gave everything that she had accumulated and possibly. by the way, uh, because she couldn't work to express herself in any other way. she expresses herself. eh, on the topic of love or life, i will say. yes, i couldn't work. and leo

tolstoy, by the way, was very important to married women. and there is such a passage he has to go through, or something, it gives me a rest and somehow behaves in general. well, in some kind. femininity at the beginning of marriage, because what a big job she has ahead of her and the liar, by the way, show themselves to be a wonderful talented owner when they leave the city, but in general they will give with this little girl. first of all, she has children. well, at least a daughter from a beloved man . god, what a charm, little, baby. secondly, there is a house, and vronsky is fond of architecture, they subscribe to magazines, and she began to read something there to retell him there is a household, and there is an upbringing that a school will pick up. in the end, or hospitals. you can find yourself there and there, but instead it's not scary annoying that vronsky spends on this time you are talking about, but that part of e history, when a woman has already lost her reputation, has lost her son. and i tell you that a person of romance, she carries with her a huge energy charge

and thinks, whoever realizes it economically and really thinks, whom to hand it to us perfectly realizes shines in the world, and in st. petersburg she already seems to me, a recognized beauty, and we see. it is easy, but it breaks the grinding in the cookie completely, as it seems to me, well, in the most cruel way, knowing, tell me about this the situation is not on purpose, what she does dances dances. look at the whole situation built in general of this novel, that leo tolstoy hmm is very convincing, let's say convincing when you enter there and when you read it, for the first time. i remember well a and even the second. and you believe everything she says, and only after some certain- this is so with me, but a certain time. after reading, you pay attention to what is acceptable. she says god i love chrysanthemums so much, if you knew i love chrysanthemums. i would surround everything with chrysan, as soon as they give her chrysanthemum. she throws them out with disdain, she sneezes, it’s allergies, but, that is , these chrysanthemums happen to her, but at the same time, god

, i love chrysanthemums so much, i can’t live without them, it’s a pity that i don’t have them, then , eh, throw it off such a situation, she comes to reconcile, by the way, here is her brother, and also, in general, the moral quality of which his wife left. uh, well, i didn’t leave curiously that leo tolstoy he often emphasizes this sibling, that here is a brother and sister from us satan. look, she's reconciled with his wife. you say you say that she good light man. she reconciled , reconciled her shares, they ask, and you would forgive betrayal, and she immediately no, well, her first movement. it was written by leo tolstoy, and then she remembered that the world says it. well, yes. well, yes. well, it's just worth it. you are also an ant. yeah, well, actually, probably, yes, i think that er. how to say? you can love, you need to love, but you can’t lie

to be hypocritical, you can change your life and you need to change your life, but at the same time you can’t destroy the lives of others and trample on. she, on the contrary, tries to be all the time. uh straight from morning till night. she says what is convenient for her and when it is convenient for her, when it comes to a divorce, you can’t get a word out of her and they ask karenin from him. say what you want from her, she says, voronsky needs to get a divorce, we need to get married. you have a child, but she is yulia all the time, women are the most strict judge. i'm watching elina look at her and probably hard impossibility incredibly hard and hmm kind of trying. that is, you remove yourself from it. here she is a figure that does something terrible to do and etc. and try it. well understand, at least the reviews that go and read on the book, true story. anna karenina. they mostly dislike negative women. rooting they are aggressive towards.

really. moreover, people, well, women of the age who have experienced some kind of life experience, nothing is impossible, an ancient owl. well , it may already be such a kind of maternal squatting is already being born that i know how to live and i will teach you. yes, i'll tell you how not to. so you did badly and so on, but the person inside became roman was 44 years old. he was a mature man and mature. but at the same time still energetic. believe me, men and he did n’t treat her as hard as a woman treats her, after all, he is a young man and at the same time, he is already a mature person. that is, you understand, i read the book, i see that he is quite tough, you think with your eyes, of course, you think, of course, yes. let's, uh, talk about the situation of a modern woman going through a divorce. elina, you divorced, there were two similar children here.

no, i mean not the situation. and in a sense then, well, yes, in general was such an experience. tell you. uh, as far as i know, this divorce was loud enough in the context of a dramatic environment, yes, dramatic. please tell us about how you lived it, maybe the origins of your relationship to karenina lie. although maybe yes. you know, i don't think that the crime against karenin is neither in passion nor in love. if you can call it love, and i think the crime is that she manipulates people does not give them anything. and let's say, when i went through a divorce, perhaps the most painful it was that moment when you can't negotiate with a person. you offer different options for yourself to the detriment of any of these and just expect a direct answer and direct action. well, i think, each of us, no matter in divorce places, has faced such a situation once you get absolutely. this is the famous formula given double message,

double message right? well, yes. well, you didn't guess. and you did wrong. you went there to me and in general, of course, well, my situation does not closely resemble, but, but nevertheless less realize that the reason is not touching at all. i just want to talk to you about whether your life has changed, you've uh gone through a divorce, and we're talking about a modern context. kitty's story thank god that everything turned out like this, so to speak, reading karenin's novel. you have the feeling that she describes the situation. this is what it could be like today, or you feel the difference in times, these rules now and divorce - this is absolutely not. you don't become a guy. you don't have to pass. eh, lord, what is it called, decisions are different through church jesus yes, to explain why you drive a divorce. yes, it's usually adultery. there is such a moment when, in fact, anna da started, and ready to take a stone was ready to take this blow and tell the synod to

get a divorce that on any day it would seem that she has all the cards in her hands there is a man who is ready . yes, take responsibility. mind you, it's really cool. yes, questions in general lucky women. well, you know come, yes, colleagues are perfectly fine. they both take care of her. can i i'll bring in a big say. so historical can be here the fact is that the process of divorce in the xix century, it is more complicated than everything. today it is really more difficult. in the event that anna is accused of adultery yes, she cannot continue to marry according to the law and, accordingly, the children can not continue to live with her. that is, if indeed the situation is revealed, as it is. she loses the opportunity to marry bronsky officially. and this is very important officially. so he can’t, respectively, leave himself an earring, but the option that some kind of karenin well, who persuades steve

karenin and he agrees to this situation, when karenin takes the blame, respectively, he cannot marry. and he agrees. it can’t be more than that, imagine giving a ten-year-old child to be brought up by a woman who cheated on you and lives in general with some strange man. well , stop it, he could look at it in a completely different quality, and not take advantage of such a generous offer to karina . clever woman. well, wait, what is the mind? so she really didn’t want the korenin to look noble, because he didn’t cheat on her and still didn’t want to. she didn't want to set her husband up like that because she didn't want to look stupid in this situation. that is, she would like to know how heroin she is, yes, and then she will come, yes, and still say, a noble person. yes and what is already obtained? we'll cut off the nose with hacks, let's

try to answer the question. why did roman abadiultere become the pinnacle of world literature? well conditionally. yes, we will rely on authorities here. i think there are a few things here. the first is, firstly, not only the balul novel, that is, we take this line as the main one, but in fact, if this novel did not have so many very interesting characters of diverse backgrounds that develop somehow touching everyone themselves has their own story, and in it we would not read any, but manifestations of life, then, well, this novel was not a bestseller. in my opinion. just a dulter line, i wouldn't give it such an effect. and as for why this topic is here, yes it becomes? it seems to me only outrageous roman diltheria. and yet it is the pinnacle of art. why say so? because ah alter is , shall we say, forbidden love, right? that is, it is not open, not official love,

forbidden as you know, yes, love. this is one of the brightest feelings and a person begins to manifest himself in different ways and experiences very sharp emotions, precisely because this is such a bomb in itself, the concept of forbidden love secret love. it's impossible there. yes, and it contains great energy in the situation itself and in the situations that a person lives and the very feeling of love. this is euphoria, this is suffering. this is a lot of all of these, so it seems to me, but for some reason it is anna karenina, e, who is considered a model very accurately and a lot, but it is shown what happens to a person inside. i think this is psychology. it seems to me that this novel, in principle, is not about love at all. even i think it's a romance of pride. interesting a. i think it's a novel pride, and everyone in this novel goes a long way and struggles with his pride as best he

can, in fact, and aleksey karenina meets. as a matter of fact, face to face with his pride. and ewen, uh, and kitty in general, the brightest. here, now, the character is truly shining, let's return to the main one, someone not about walks leads him to the destruction of the whole world, because someone is not someone who copes well , well, as too much potential that was used not by faith is a great potential, but let's say it the way i think not on the side of good, tell me, do you think, uh, the charm of this novel is its mystery, its miracle , what is it? i believe that the charm, the heroine of the daffodil, how do you think and allow me to really repeat. this is the path of a narcissist to him a manipulator that each of us has encountered, or you can recognize yourself this mirror, including, but a rather tough narcissist magnificent narcissist and the destruction of the personality, the destruction of the personality of impunity at first and the destruction of the personality, and

he was very rightly said. yes, she wants and she wants it to be brought to her, but that's how it is in life. can not be. and that's how it ends, old owl, and the oldest of you. and so, if we talk about love, and it is in this novel, but it’s not love, it’s a mountain, but i immediately recall the message of paul the apostle paul to the corinthians love is long-suffering love is merciful to its own depends does not envy does not seek its own nor thinks evil, but does not rejoice unrighteousness will rejoice in the truth. and now i have a question, if we are talking about love anna karenina, where in these words? anna arkadina, i don’t have an answer, maybe, but i also want to tell you about that, uh, as i see why this the novel is still uh, attracts attention interesting from my point of view. hmm tolstoy as a moralist. hmm wanted to make a story about what, uh, how bad it is for your woman to be in these nasty societies. uh, and doing some

bullshit, and in the end, all the bad girls turn out. yes, he painted her, so to speak, as a bad mother and so on. that is, we can understand that the girl is a bad, bad, very girl, but it seems to me that e strength is a romance in that tolstoy, e, he still loves it like a man enchanted by this sexy power that brings destruction. here, as a goddess, you understand potassium, that is, this and tell a man with such a woman meets and comes out of the position. some who give birth to children. they are a good mother tolstoy admires them, of course, but his soul yearns for women like her and i think that this is a wonderful portrait of a femme fatale, based on such a paradox of the author. well, of course, otherwise such a magnificent romance of a girl would not have happened. thank you for coming to me. this was a must-have podcast reading. i had art critics visiting. lina gridchina and writer

ekaterina barbanyaga. i am the director of the writer, most importantly batnikova, the host of the podcast. hello and denis gorelov i will talk about the old soviet cinema, which i know better than anyone in the country. the podcast is called burn with fire today our conversation about the film by georgy daneliya i walk around moscow daneliya, best of all in the country was able to capture the happiness of the little boy seryozha from the fact that he was being taken to the city of kholmogory the happiness of young people from the fact that a normal summer rain. i'm walking around moscow dr. benjamin glonti's happiness from the fact that everything around georgia is beautiful and wonderful kebabs, albeit poor, but it's nice and this happiness magnificent resonated with the whole mood of the sixties

, the sixties knew how to enjoy everything in the world, any weather in the sixty-fifth year the film a day of sun and rain was released. uh, which, as it were, symbolized. this is the acceptance of any weather, simply from the fact that everything is fine in the heart and a very big youth feeling of life. all this happened because that it was in the sixties that the baby boom generation regretted, ah, those that arose immediately after the world war. in the forty-fifth forty- sixth year, there was a lump-sum birth rate in all the warring countries, first of all, because the soldiers returned from the fronts, finally reached their wives, and not only he began to somehow make up for the population decline that accompanied the hardest war years. as a result, uh, in the united states, the growth was 5 million people a year for eight years. at the time, the growth was three millionth a year, and

that is why in the sixties there was a feeling that the youth had taken over the gates, that on the streets only young people were talking only about things that were important for young characters. eh, and from this. as a matter of fact, the general spring mood and older people were already in the minority, and sometimes they got angry in the film. i'm walking in moscow, this is clearly visible. hardly the first phrase in the first episode of the senior pilots of the metro tells mikhalkov that look, how would you someone once did not hit on the neck, and immediately after that the foreman gets angry with him and says we will dig it out. so you need to go to the park later, and the psycho, performed by rolan bykov, claims that gangs of hypnotists are pursuing him to rob him and many other things, but of course, the youth were in such a numerical majority that they looked at this

through their fingers and understood that a adults, they just overstrained their psyche in the war, and therefore their behavior should be treated more calmly as a girl in the gorky park of culture , this is precisely what created a feeling of unbearable happiness peaceful wonderful life, which, as it was felt, would always be. and why not only here in poland everyone’s favorite bigniv cybulsky, according to memoirs, could laugh in the middle of the performance right on the stage from the fullness of life and a sense of joy, he, uh, during the war, survived during the warsaw uprising a and the audience, who also survived in the warsaw uprising the uprisings of the beautiful were understood , however, not everyone understood them. the fact is that, uh, checking u instances and artistic councils is very they were strict about danelia shpalikov’s picture, they

recalled that they had to pass the definition 17 times with the script, everyone was worried that young people on weekdays were scurrying down the street in broad daylight instead of sitting at work and it was necessary to find a justification. why are they not working at this moment, and the situation was aggravated by the fact that shortly before that, e was forbidden by personal khrushchev. and they forced another film according to shpalikov's script. where, too, three friends hung around the city, rejoiced at the summer day and the summer rain, and then in general, angered the general secretary of the instance, they wanted to warn somehow, this disgrace and in every possible way demanded from the authors to clarify the position, and as a result it turned out that the worker volodya came on vacation to find out the fate of his story published in his youth, and the worker kolya, uh, hmm worked at night at the metro construction and during the day he could walk around the city. as much soul as you like, and sasha

went to the red army, and besides, he got married. therefore, he was given 3 days to arrange his personal life. it was impossible to make the heroes students. for that simple the reason is that nikita sergeevich khrushchev did not tolerate full-time students at all . he considered them categorically to be eggs, namely, that is why in 11 khrushchev years not a single film was released where full-time students would be goodies . the first positive unconditionally positive students of our screen was shurik already in the sixty-fifth year in operation y. this was the first brezhnev year of students. allowed that is why the same heavy popularity covered, and the operation is the target audience of students, they just missed the image of his beautiful representative on the screen at that moment was 63, so all the characters became workers. well, there were few authors asking about what the movie was about, and good people answered, the authors didn’t have much of this, people from the

council said, and they couldn’t even articulate more or less clearly. what do they want this heroes. eh, but the authors, in the end, realized that they want not only the heroes to be workers, not only that they go to the soviet army, but also that they make all sorts of fiery speeches about the responsibility of a working person. understandable the thing is that all young people are from the film, like all normal people. illusions did not want to talk about the responsibility of a working person, they wanted to talk about women about football and about summer gas, and for the seventeenth time, uh, the authors already realized that the picture could happen and they took and introduced into the picture the image of a palateur, which, in fact, voiced all the claims of the picture from the artistic council. and it was a desperate move. uh, danelia shpalikov understood that if there are just uh members in the floor polisher, then the council will recognize themselves, and, most likely, they would recognize it, otherwise the picture would be closed to them, but they

were already completely ready for this they were tired of arguing with the authorities, and the authorities understood this, but felt that she would be left without a picture about the workers if they were so rampant and allowed everything, including and the polisher himself, his role was played by vladimir basov, and this was the first appearance of basov in e. in the cinema, in films that he would not have made himself, and from that couple vladimir pavlovich basov became. not only the directors of the popularly beloved films shield and sword and turbine days, but also nationwide e duremar and polisher, as for the picture, then, uh, she experienced some pressure not only from the state, but also from the outside, but a mental position. many fans of the film made ilyich believe that this is a light version of an outstanding picture, that this is such a collaborative statement. eh, no

big deal. just about the youth on the street, and in particular, stanislav lyubshin refused to act in the film at the first probakhtists, who played, they forced tea, who was very angry with i walk in moscow, and perhaps for the better, because at the time of the film, lukshin was already 30 years old and, of course, he was required to pair with him. e. uh, a slightly more mature character than nikita mikhalkov e. in any case, thirty-year-old heroes with a different weight. uh, would appear in the film about uh, a beautiful summer day in the film happened. e, a long-term 60-year-old survivor of friendship e. nikita sergeevich mikhalkov evgeny yurievich steblov. friendship lasted primarily because mikhalkov dominated the pair. as in the picture and only such relations he could recognize.

as for evgeny yurievich steklov, this did not bother him at all. he was quite ready to be in e, friendly relations led. all e. friendship they are some kind of sergeyevich in which the partners claimed equal rights fell apart, and this has been going on for 60 years and will continue for more, probably, the amount of time, and in the sixty-fifth year, 2 years after i walk around moscow, they played. together the panzer crew is a wonderful roll call film already forgotten in the eighties. they they played together, as everyone remembers the hound of the baskervilles a-a, and also in some of his paintings mikhalkov invited episodic roles to the stem, for example, to play oblomov’s father the grand duke in the siberian barber, and the relationship continued within the very framework that was set by the picture. i'm walking around moscow for the first time , irina miroshnichenko appeared on the screen in the role of kolka

's sister. i think beauty miroshnichenko he was very pleased with the picture. it just sounds like a phrase. here you know your beauty, meshnichenko's sister, in a half voice, the idiot says to his brother, in addition, aleksey loktev and galina polish, who were already slightly older and already appearing on the screen, were already filming in the film, and it was quite clear that the adult was relatively polish. uh, he will pay more attention to the courtship of the worker, volodya in the performance of the loktiv, than to mikhalkov after all, and they were 18 years old with the stem, and 24 years old with the polish elbow. they were already solid people in the present hmm and by everything is inevitable. they reached out to each other, fuck, advice, uh, danelia, they asked. and what genre

did his picture say comedy, you asked why it's not funny. he said it's a lyrical comedy. e, here, write it like that. they told him so and i will write it, - said danelia and in uh, credits from the credits. i'm walking around moscow the lyrical comedy danelia was written, he was very proud that he had invented a whole genre of soviet cinema. he really liked it 9 years later when he wrote the screenplay for gentlemen of fortune. e, for director alexander serov i emphasize this. uh, all our people have no idea who filmed the film gentlemen of fortune, everyone believes that either the guide or danelia film was shot by alexander sery and he was invited to the picture for the elementary reason that he himself was in prison for, e, grievous bodily injuries inflicted out of jealousy and knew the material, and daneli only wrote the script together with viktoria tokareva and decided to designate the genre of the picture, as

a non-legal comedy, then again it was a big hit could become that encyclopedia of russian life. what was the outpost of ilyich simply forced, which lasted 3 hours. and i walk to moscow for 1:12 minutes, but nevertheless, there is still a huge number of examples of the sixty-third year, which should be stopped . and this was the time when transport was still walking along red square, including buses in one of the episodes. it can be seen, and it was a time when the famous rossiya cinema had just been built on pushkin square. even then it was called central a in the film hmm, according to the announcement it is clear that there is a picture of the sixty-third year. it happened to the police. and it was a time when everything in the world

was good. what's the matter? do you not understand right away? uh and despite the fact that, uh, in russia, traditionally, the inhabitants of the country are not very fond of the arrogant capital at that moment, uh, the whole country sincerely felt that moscow was the best city on earth. as a matter of fact, at that moment it was so in the picture. generally enough the best shots of the then soviet cinema worked at ease, and the best screenwriter of the sixties, gennady fedorovich palikov, who at that time was simply called genka, because he was only 26 years old, and in the picture he periodically reproduces his own wonderful poems, and in particular, the phrase sounds. eh, here is the house where pushkin once lived, and in the e poem. i walk around moscow as one walks on a plank. eh, there was a phrase. eh, pushkin used to live here. pushkin was friends with svyazyamsky, he grieved lying in bed and said that he had caught a cold. now lives in the house

his heir. he plays the right edge in torpedo and torpedo at that time was a fairly famous team, because the best historical striker of all time eduard streltsov played for it. hmm in the fifty-eighth year. he sat down, so the time of the torpedo passed, but the reputation of the club then still remained in the picture, the cameraman vadim ivanovich yususov worked, and one of the favorite operators of tarkovsky, who made him, and andrei rublev and created a general atmosphere. sunny hmm politov, watering the city of danelia, at that time staged two films. hmm, the film seryozha and the film the way to the pier both somehow respond to i'm walking around moscow, and in the film one of the characters is called alexander industriyevich. it was explicit greetings from the author. e daneli, according to, the film seryozha igor tankin, igor he was only as a pseudonym in the

passport. it began as an industry vasilyevich talannkin and, of course, when the military commissar says sternly, well, this is how it will all be, alexander industry. and this was yavny's greetings to his comrade student pavgik, i must say that in in many films by other directors , some character by the name of industries constantly appeared, and it was clear that the directors of these films also knew tankino well. and what about the way to the shoulders? crazy e, performed by rolan bykov, and while walking in the park they whistle a song about a friend, if there is one joy for all, there is only one trouble for all, which just sounded on the way to the pier. the music for the picture was written by an outstanding composer, one of ryazan's favorite composers andrey petrov just blared five tunes to the nation's favorite movie amphibian man. and, that is, the set of heroes and

authors of the picture was the most representative film has become. uh, definitely a stellar output. ah. nikita mikhalkov, mr. daneliya did not want to take his picture, he was used to the fact that nikita was small, but at the age of eighteen he suddenly saw a rather grown young man. and he said that during the time we re-released the script. uh, during the journey, the dog could grow up. eh, the dog has quite frankly grown up and it was after the success of this film. uh, mikhalkov decided to enter the shchukin school to connect his life in the cinema, despite the fact that in previous years he was quite actively filmed as a child in the film. eh, overhead clouds . his first appearance. he is still a 7th grader and on the stage, for free, a mug plays dad, who has lunch in the roll call film, and when

he receives a medal, he becomes a heifer and so a brute and receives his highest government award in i walk around moscow after returning from a shift. he is playing something there and at the same time reading a book, his sister pulls out, says he does not read at the table. and hmm feeling that he always had some kind of sandwich at hand and his cheeks protruded all the time, he always accompanied mikhalkov, e, in his early roles. uh, before he got his mustache for the first time. he was in a movie written by his brother. song manshuk uh, there, by the way, also periodically joked. e, about some of his acquaintances e he played. mm, a native commander during the war, and said that they just dragged a pig from behind the front line, lieutenant, volodarsky is such a big-faced one from a neighboring platoon. uh, screenwriter volodarsky was a close friend of the families

mikhalkov. it was such a hello to him, and the film participated in the cannes film festival and received a prize for airiness and beauty. uh, in the soviet box office. it collected 20 million viewers not so much, but it was a double payback movie in e. the soviet box office paid off when it reached the bar of 10 million views. on the occasion of the eighty-fifth birthday of vladimir vysotsky, i don’t know how it will sound, i will suddenly burst into your house with a cry with my own, but be patient. i am all in the light available to all eyes. i started the usual procedure officially. i'm not a composer for this. no no today, just tear up the microphone there. yes, my voice often happens that in order to become better yourself there are a couple of good people, it is my lie, who did you

hear it to rewrite and began. such a triumphal procession of these films is everywhere, everywhere, lanterns are beating everywhere in the face, and from the guys from the gods of the proshektor. in general, i always ask for the gesture of light in the auditorium. day of vladimir vysotsky on saturday at the first cassiopeia, which was also at the box office, but gathered much fewer people. uh, just because there was no conflict in the film, as for the youths, then there the pioneer crew collided in space with a civilization of thinking robots and fought with them for life, and to death the picture hmm marked the superiority of russia not only in space, but also in superstructure in stories of space travel, because in the

united states, the space theme has somehow lagged behind, you might even say for a natural reason. the thing is, that ah the theme of space flights of space adventures in the cinema was primarily interested in teenagers. ah. it was the audience that couldn't bring enough money to the box office, so in the us these films were made in uh, uh, secondary studios. category b e, we have the opposite. uh, because the best things were for the children. uh, teen movies had some of the best shots, and they were really ahead of the curve. uh, the very cosmic thought of the collision of man with rebellious robots. e was the first thing we did in the us e hmm they shot about it 5 years later, uh, the movie, black hole. well, of course, 10 years later

, the terminator came out. however, uh, the championship in this matter is ours. and it should be noted that, uh, the rebellious robots wanted, first of all, to deprive u people of, uh, the feeling of creative search. all sorts of uh, hmm fly, reflection, love, and so on, and it’s not difficult to understand what the absence of all these feelings in the soviet doctrine meant for the western world, but there was a distinct feeling that the pioneers were just fighting western soullessness, but hmm at least, the authors didn't pedal it. it's on close examination. uh, it becomes, i understand. and besides, uh, the zof-robots that sucked the unfortunate inhabitants of the planet to the points of making happy the inhabitants of the planet are generous, and the constellation of alpha-cassiopeia, uh, by and large was a classic disc with m-th color musical

accompaniment and uh , some fumes of dry ice, which in the late seventies were used in any discos. and at the same time , the locals agapit, wriggling under the influence of all sorts of, but inviting rays of music from e. such a slightly, crazy smile was one of the most terrible childhood memories of venereology people just slept at night with difficulty remembering this episode the pioneer crew was formed for a specific reason, and the senders of the space expedition. they meant that the heroes would spend in space along the way, like alpha cassiopeia and 27 years. during this time, they will become quite adult and mature and will enter into battle with a hostile civilization already enough, understanding and adult people. ah, but as always, it happens in such cases, the cosmos is a hare, because kolobanov sat

on the wrong button, hyperspace was overcome with uh super speed and uh, pioneers. they entered the battle at the age of fourteen, despite the fact that on the ground at that moment all the required 27 years had already passed. this, i must say, helped the crew a lot, because it was children's tacks. ah, baby secrets. and uh, the fighting methods helped a lot in the fight with the robots, eh. at the uh critical moment a laser gun. uh, managed to divert the death ray with a mirror. uh , exobiola says to koteishchikova, uh. she also came up with the idea of ​​breeding robotic performers, and with the saying a and b were sitting on a pipe, a would have fallen gone, what's left on the navigator's pipe. kozelkov constantly carried nails in his pocket, which helped at the right time in the destruction of the charging station of the robots. but

i must honestly admit that, despite the fact that all these gadgets and all sorts of e, secret things were. uh, evenly distributed throughout the crew. hmm somehow hmm appropriate them. uh, in general, the pioneer hero failed to ask, now any fan of the film is such a universe who asked about for, sitting on the pipe. and who took the nails out of his pocket all i’ll unconditionally say that this is fed ’s koloban case, and the cosmos hare and the main troublemaker , in fact, everything was not so forehead invented only, uh, cosmic glue that sticks everything tightly, such a special hmm yellow substance, and everything else was done by his comrades , but uh, all the glory, as always, went to the red-haired hooligan, and the plot itself. uh, the spaceman built the story back to the youth of the writers. about venus zakorya. isaiah kuznetsova at the time of the production of the picture they were already 60 years old and

at the time of their youth on the screens. the movie is out. seven bold ones, where six true heroes of polar explorers went on a distant polar expedition, but they got on the steamer with them. uh, the same hare, petya pray to god, performed by people's artist pyotr martynovich oleinikov v. at that moment, he was not martynovich yet, but simply singing, and obviously the scriptwriters introduced this line, and dragging it into the plot . we gouge the fight of such a red-haired hero, and i must say that after the lapse of years and it is quite clear that the hare has violated the cosmos, also the most important balance of space travel sexual uh in the studio gorky being focused on all kinds of youth with all erotic moods. uh, always uh, hmm very welcomed hidden eroticism. suffice it to recall that the most

striking erotic scene of the soviet cinema is the scene in the bathhouse of the movie dawn. here, the quiet one was also filmed at gorky's studio, but realizing that the pioneers, how sooner or later they grow up . and it was quite clear that crew captain. after all, sereda is breathing rather unevenly at the address. techikova, uh, it was clear that the astronavigator kopanygin, uh, enjoyed the special preferences of the archaeologist panfrova, and only uh, the navigator kozelkov and the space doctor sorokina, uh, did not show mutual attention for a long time. although sometimes they looked at each other, they perfectly understand that in the boundless outer spaces they can’t get away from each other , and in the finale they even somehow ended up there together. uh, doctor, sorokin's fleece

wiped off the navigator's face. kozelkov consequences collapse, and it was evident that some mutual sympathy was growing in them. and the topic, mm, quite rightly, was not pedaled. here it was clear that viktorov would decide a lot, who filmed in belarus in a movie about e, teenagers are very well versed in age-related psychology. hmm the fact is that sorokin's strength points are astronauted, and i declare as a bespectacled man. and people with glasses and wallpaper near the floor do not receive any attention at all. uh, members of the opposite sex during school years. uh, and only after. they suddenly begin to realize that they are not completely hopeless, and uh, they are being attended to. ah. individuals of the opposite sex, exactly the same in the picture. eh, i already remember my own views. at a young age, a girl with glasses did not arouse any special feelings, and only after the lapse

of time, with repeated viewings, it became clear that a real notorious sniffle was rushing from the young lady. uh. i think that adults will be quite convinced of this. the only one who was left without a couple, and there was space and weaklings. uh, he penetrated the ship's set on his own, therefore, he was not supposed to have girls, but it was quite clear to everyone that he was to such an extent, uh, wallpaper of scientific interest. fantasies to all sorts of shimmering dragonflies and a house and an eight-winged sprutosaurus, that with these sportosaurs he will calmly spend time in space without any young lady. and when he returns , everything will be fine with him, but the same crazy lover of roy bradbury, isaac asimov, is coming and their children will be psycho fans of the book star katz in honor of konstantin eduardovich tsiolkovsky and the same loban, but said uh, one of uh, most uh the fundamental wisdom of the picture of the youth in

the universe, the faster we arrive, the faster we fly away the pioneers were shocked and said, well, you're just short. ah hmm but i have to say it was absolutely. is it true. eh, the film was shrunk down to the most extreme impossibility, and so that only the most energetic events took place on the screen. uh, the movie was an hour and 19 minutes long. it just so happened that young ladies a are in a space outfit. already selected for every taste. they were very peculiar each uh, then uh boys viktorov uh, by for some incomprehensible reason i picked them up, as if they were all robots incredibly similar to each other of the same height, all three are brown-haired, if they are not in the frame, not together, they can even be confused in life, uh, then it just so happened that er guys, everything except, of course, space. this red-haired lobanov did not go to the cinema.

due to the expiration of circumstances, almost everyone was engaged in transport, one became, uh, an engineer, metro construction, the other a taxi driver, the third is somehow connected with aviation in the cinema, further noted olga bityukova, playing. and as a matter of fact, uh, a leak, uh, in honor of which the enamored captain sereda even named the planet options and in addition , of course, volodya basov, the son of director vladimir basov, who also became a director and also, like his father, played in his own films 6 years after viktorov removed the youths. e picture through the thorns to the stars. hmm , too, about all sorts of space travel secrets of the universe, where the girl and the alien played with maykenshchina. she had a haircut almost to one. it is quite clear that viktorov, uh, has already had time to look. uh, released only a year before

, uh, star trek movie where uh, in uh, the space crew of the american, uh, ship enterprise uh, was present. hmm indian persian hambata, shaved completely impudently, who of that degree? find? eh girl? panicle well , after all, the authors were not ready, but she was cut one by one, and in the film she tried to adapt to earthly life for a long time trying to figure it out. why do people swim in the sea, when people explained. she threw off everything that she was wearing and completely naked went occupation pioneer of the eighties were satisfied. and well, the situation did not end there, but 5 years after everything. ah, the director. pavel arsenov filmed at the same gorky studio, the series guests from the future in it. hmm, an employee of the institute of the future played polina. the same broom, no one recognized her in her hair and glasses. but uh, at

least the relay race of uh, sexy heroines was continued. eh, even other directors. uh, viktorov arsenov made a movie about space at the same studio and obviously with some were jealous of each other. i even came across this at the dawn of my journalistic career, i wrote that guests from the future were filmed by viktorov, and then i found out that arsen was terribly offended, yes, and rightly so, of course. it's my fault for directing victor on a uh uh space franchise. e, i mainly made films about tenth graders, but they were all to such an extent, positive, always to such an extent more correct that, frankly , i wanted to send them into space at that moment. uh, because in space only correct and positive and place. apparently, viktorov felt this. he began to make films about space. uh, it's all over. it's bad, uh, uh, in the process of filming his last

comet movie. e he hmm died right on the set. the film was finished by another director. uh, but uh, his early paintings. eh, the crossroads transitional age somehow did not remain in the memory. even though participating in the transitional age. uh, the super sex bombs of the soviet children's screen lena proklova. ah. still, he remained in my memory. a descendants like uh, the creator of the space franchise moscow-cassiopeia children in the universe through the thorns of their stars about children in space. uh, we had another film made, the great space journey, but that was already a real profanation of the topic. uh, the film was filmed by sergei mikhalkov uh. the fact is that cosmos sent ten-year-old children there, but in the end it turned out that they didn’t fly anywhere, but simply imitated the flight, and the adults simply mocked them, checking them. e, compatibility and ability to collective

actions in orbit, it cannot be said that it was interesting from the film, in my opinion, there is only one song left by alexei rybnikov , of course, i believe you quite clearly that the initiator of all our children's space travels was the new minister of photography philip timofeevich yermash, appointed to seventy-second year with the aim of returning e, soviet cinematography to the rate of profitability of the sixties, and the fact is that at the moment when all the children of the baby, boom, in the sixties. uh, grown up rushed to cinemas. profit. from each picture was absolutely incredible in terms of the degree of profitability, cinema. ranked third after the sale of alcohol and tobacco, and all the leaders of our city's film production. or what? uh, our teachers and our doctors live at the expense of cinema, and in the seventies, due to the decline in the post-war birth rate

, incomes began to fall, and, uh, before yermash, they just set the task, and to return the system and the rate of profitability, but he did not find anything else , as a classic scheme of the renaissance of genre cinema, and given that e in further, his son, director andrey ermash, staged only science fiction. uh, in general, it is clear that this topic was important and popular in the family. and that the main source of all these productions at gorky's studio was the new philippermarch minister. it just so happened that under the heading our old movies on different tv channels only three hundred e, old soviet films appear. eh, given that in the year the soviet cinema was filming wait films. this is a drop in the sea. some films have gone into oblivion absolutely deserved

, some completely in vain, and in part, because they didn't pay attention. uh, tv people. only when it's on tv. uh, the picture becomes a national event, not at the time of the screening at the box office. eh, so many paintings require a substantive conversation. eh, including, by the way, those that still remain in the people's memory, but some details about them, eh, are still not recorded in the literature. and that's what i'm going to talk about in my podcast. woe by fire. i am denis gorelov and about soviet cinema and about soviet cinema, uh, his best masterpieces and the best works. all the best.

you see, here's the thing, it turns out that everyone knows you as a football player. well, you play hockey from time to time on red square, because that's why you invited to leave . gave consent well , i know of some of the guys with whom i have played for a long time, and so the same players will drive here for their own today. my name is denis kazansky this is a football not hockey podcast, and we have enough topics to talk with you not only about football. not only hockey, especially since yaroslavl is a city where both since you probably think, firstly,

a school has been built there. in the summer, he rents an apartment, looking for an apartment, yes, it’s hard to find one, because many families rent hockey, and yes, and therefore they go there and apparently. the result gives many play in the nhl in the khl well, at the moment, probably, with the advent of nikitin's headquarters. eh, such a vacuum has formed, that the team is gradually rising and deservedly takes one of the top places there, in my opinion, in third place at the moment. well, you get, i mean , but what do you think, that if i i will leave the world championship, if there were matches of the world championship of the eighteenth year of football, yes, it would be such a really big step in order to relax football was perceived differently. not well, yaroslavl was a football city. he

remains simple. ah, probably the last one. this is that the team has not been in the fitting for, in my opinion, 14 years, in my opinion, i don’t remember, to be honest, but i have good memories that i had the last championship somewhere in 2004, exactly in me . roslavl was was completely come and go to the football and went to the football, but this would be a-a movement, probably, would have been added to the city center at this place. now the stadium is in the center of the city, if the news were built. well, for example, they are in saransk. but on the other hand, let's see. here is a stadium in rostov, stadiums in nizhny, we see a picture or we ourselves come to the stadium, they are half empty. if you say that empty no one goes to football. no, if uh story or not, when was the fnl, well, when did the coach come, how

fan, uh, well, yes, the spectator didn’t go much , but i think that the spectator comes to the top matches, well, it’s really curious, because here’s what happened rostov was always crowded now, there are no questions here. you know yourself there, many people there refuse to go to the stadiums because of what needs to be done. romantsev was in this chair. he talked about what he did not draw up, and is not going to, but is waiting for a dialogue. do you like the opposition was me. well, i did this e for the world cup. so somehow i did it before the world cup, but to be honest, i did it there, well, in 5 minutes, going into one building. yes, at the beginning they also checked me, and then another one, as if

they gave me a window, i spent 5 minutes from there. at the moment, probably, we need to make more of these buildings. they did not succeed through the application, which i tried to make through public services, but i understand the fans that i want everyone to be checked, and he was on the checkmark of the state. yes, there under the key or something else something i to this. i'm ready to legally obedient citizen, but in the spring now we're going to everyone should be. what what does it mean to do. well, then, well, not only empty, why is someone walking? hmm it's not all the same, uh, such a certain policy. this is, as it were, the main part, yes, the fans are the so-called fan. yes, they do not accept, they are like that. well, let's see, oleg ivanovich is counting on what they say, like football, in the second and

first leagues in terms of attendance, what is happening there? well, the second league, in principle, i was familiar to her. uh, even when i started coaching as the head coach of ivanovsky tekstilshchik, in principle, this is the west zone, she has not changed. that is, if some team sets a task, then, and such a team, which turned out to be a bus, must a priori set tasks. here are other teams, but there, if it came, there were 500 people, and it is considered already on, but at a stadium like murom it is small, but cozy, it gave the olympic champion. i mean, there were losel players and such players as cossacks played in nizhny and in other commands, that is. and this is normal, there are other teams there that set tasks. even the door. yes, even the door, uh, we played on that

field, but there are already many players. you understand, they said that it was impossible there, especially in the summer to play, yes, because it is a neighboring building. they make dog food there. yes, and that is, when yes. and although there was an old stadium in the city center, where zenit played here, they made a cup there and a new stadium was made, but, but there is a problem with something. there were connected with the delivery of this object. and and. well, it's not a secret. there are already trees growing out of artificial field. and so, according to the project, he will already build it. you just need to accept it, but the city does not accept it. and but those, apparently, the shortcomings that the problem made here. yes, it appeared at the door. so a team was formed there. here we got such a butting there, yes, but we came out with honor there

with a margin of 20 points there, because there is a large stadium there, a historical stadium, khimik, as i remember, that's what it is called there in hockey they played football they played. and they played in the match, even the national team of the soviet union played. there's still when tarasy imagine what history was and played football. and in the center of the city there is such a story that no one needs. you can name some of the main problems that exist right now. it’s just in that league that hardly anyone is watching in moscow in st. petersburg everyone is watching what is happening with spartak zenit but they definitely don’t pay attention to the second first division. i think that, probably, they are everywhere, i mean , the premier league, they are the same, which are the south team and where you can’t fly there, you have to get there. a or by train or by by plane, then by bus, but with logistics, probably only connected with it. and so i don’t think that there are, uh, any problems, if the teams in the premier league have fallen here in the fnl

, they are pretty good, then this is their problem in summer cottages, you don’t have to start playing here and there. did you get to where you played enough? regarding the calendar system, and it always hit, just in the second first division, you yourself said that the team was resting and preparing. i don't know how it is. as you can see, six months. is this the second one or yes well disaster, well second yes well i was, in principle, connected with this twice, and right there the question is about, let's talk about how it all lines up. why do you get another six months? why six months? because, for example, today is january? yes, the second league will start in april, the sixth and sixth of april, april, may, and the tenth, which means 2

months to play. yeah, then here's, uh, the next championship if the tenth ends the next championship starts on the 15th. it 's 35 days between the champions of the players to dismiss, huh? or they themselves will leave to create you will be the first there rounds five dash eight, but the team gather. if, as happened with us, we finished the tenth very well. well, 5 probably started even less than a month, so i need some players that i leave to give them at least some rest from other players that i will take, yes, that is, they finished earlier, because now the lights are

finishing just like the premier league, so that two teams from there and from here play each other this thirty-first, probably may , that's why it's so hard here in this dress, but the second league is good for that. okay, we 're talking about the sixth of april, the second league finishes. uh, november 6th. oh well, now count, and then from november yes, april is three years old, well, 7 months and again the month is resting. salt, what do you mean? you come to the russian federation and they tell you, vladimir litvich, please, close this topic to us, that the second league somehow lived, and so that there would not be such a nightmare. at first, i didn’t think about it, but i understand that it’s better to play. that's it to start in the spring

to finish. e. well, what else was e connected with, maybe this transition, because the contract is for the obligation of a football player. yes they it takes a whole year. uh-huh, but when there was this, here's the situation when, for example, uh, from april to october yes, some leaders. and i think that's the majority. they just do not annual contracts, but for these gray eight months. wow. well, this is probably objective if you take a player on the application flag. yes, that is, january is february, you leave and when it ends in october. why would you pay? there are vacation pay there or even before the new year, but this was the same transition that was connected with this, so that control there the authorities were, like, well, the players were, uh, protected. well, that is there,

according to the legislation. yes, when you came to yaroslavl, in what condition did you find the team, the situation was difficult in terms of the fact that shinnik never flew out the second day. so what to do how to do no one knew hmm the task was given to the governor returned and we her and in particular bavaria but he uh her decided that the team now rose higher, but then again you really question how he was able it was. here they are flying the fact that there are two fields on the base that do not correspond to the level. the training process had to do this, i had to do nutrition at the base. we had to deal with the selection first of all, we had the task of making the result immediately after the end of this part of the fans. it’s just

that it’s not important for you at all, the quality of the game is important, the important result is 1:0, it doesn’t matter what it turns out to be? look, when a team solves a problem, this is one of them. it is necessary to solve it when the team collided right now, right now. here lokomotiv is all a task stay. this is a different task. it's not about fighting for first place. you may not win, but you don't either . and now you may not win, but you can already play in a different league. therefore, this task is very difficult, but playing beautifully, right? another task for russia is when there is a result, yes, and it is played, and if there is no result in the games , right? here you play beautifully. so who needs it? no, you are pashtom downstairs. uh, let's go here. let's just decipher another dogma of yours, because it's

more or less clear about the result and about the attractiveness of the game, but here is the same story about football. what is it? it was a troll journalist, when you said, what is the beating of heads, this correspondent is still probably working in orenburg, yes. he asked more questions than i answered. uh, so for me it's also like, uh, studying. yes, just today. i behave differently when such questions are asked. yes, i'm just saying, repeat the question. when you go to the game. you give commands. yes, in terms of that game in terms of installation the players did everything that i demand from the opponent there was one moment per game where they could score a goal, one moment uh-huh and at that moment orenburg created a lot of chances. especially the house with the other team more or less, and so then you played 00 and we were very pleased. exhaustively, it

looks like we have zero, who knows who to add addresses, i have not shown the hospital. you asked me to. how to find out. and let's talk about your view of the generation, because your quote is all future

olympic world and football champions in hockey as a child has always been refined. actions yes you become more coordinating. yes, there you can do some kind of competitive there faster, there must be someone else there, something is there, it’s like everything was growing with you, well, it’s clear that now you are lost. yes, well, i came home, there is no longer any kind of yard there to study individually there, well, you know, there is already an hour and a half there, others are already talking a lot. yes, there is the same larion. yes, i

was sitting here and saying that it’s impossible for a person, well , at the age of 3, put a child on skates and already do it. this is work. well, there must be a person. well, they like to do their own thing, yes, when you tell him as a child, you must you must he can be at the age of 6 we will say to the folder. i’ve had enough, i want parents want their son to look like ovechkin. i don’t know malkin there, i don’t know kuznetsov on the coachman, that is, examples or when he plays at the gate for vasilevsky or shesterkin examples for children are enough you see such examples in football. that's who, again, returning, there, 10-20 years ago, 10 years ago, everyone wanted to be like arshavin, uh, i don’t know how belyaletdinov is there, how he was attracted and even earlier. how do you sweatshirts? like tikhonov, that is, there have always been some heroes. now you see a hero. well, i think the children probably choose some of our

football players themselves, probably more foreign football players, because there are a lot of them on tv. yes, that is, there playing games from some of their schools. yes, there is a guideline. yes, damn it, well, if there is a team of masters, but i say, there is guidance, so to say that someone, well, it’s clear, then what, probably someone is listening. uh-huh because he does not appear lately, some of these are now, probably, zahar. everything is now miranchuk there in my head like that. well, that's what the teeth themselves wore on their hands. now they are destroying their own by violence. well, you have to be consistent somehow. you can’t wear it like that, then you’re right there. well, although

it has always been, probably, is and will be. well, yes, because right now in our lives. the worse you probably said, the better it will spread in the press. it doesn't matter if it's true or not. interesting, let's talk more about the world cup. how many matches did you try to watch everything? it didn't work, but i tried to watch as much as possible. uh, less, probably, i watched belgium, for some reason i didn’t manage to watch the first game and, probably, the second one. and so, in principle, someone more than someone less. probably it's less about football , but more, probably, to coaching the same as it is stream reiki. yes, before the games, too, something new something new or vice versa. this is common now in our football, because you probably

the money he made. he will have to cook them. that's it. it is too. new something in our need such openness. what do you think, but this too. you see, the result. no, it means that from this yes, because i found out just before the game of morocco and just the game of morocco and what was shown there caught my eye, just a bright river, about ten minutes to 15, and he with his football player, he says, there is no need to rush. there's no need to rush. at first, i, well, as if i understood what they are preparing, in fact the whole game is and so it passed that they were preparing

, preparing, preparing, and morocco had time to move and they closed all these zones. yes, in the end they threw there and could have scored. there it was all in extra time there at the end and the bar when they hit here, but, probably. this was their coaching plan. yes, do not rush, so that it is true, so that the ball does not lose, so that there are no these interceptions. on what, uh, morocco plays fast attacks, retaliatory attacks. here it turns out. it was necessary, on the contrary, to speed up to speed up to speed up. uh huh , what, how is manchester doing now city, 20 years ago, on the air of channel one, you produced a phrase for the whole country. this, of course, perfectly remember, that's all it was, yes, the moment i did at all. it seems that this is the

very top, because 20 years ago 20 years ago, generally accept i live today. here i am at the moment, soon i will go to the training camp with yaroslavl for a month and a half. therefore, a month and a half, when, uh, i was a football player for 24 days. 24 days with spartak to collect yes , it's difficult that year i was 33 days. also a tire trader , but it so happened that we are in turkey

stuck there, uh, it's easier for a coach. for footballers well, because you don't see close uh. although, although, i am a supporter of that, even from the first day. go there wives. come on, you wives have such children wives there ah, whoever moms dads hmm just not a boyfriend. which, look, now the protocol of lokomotiv players was forbidden to communicate with the media at the training camp, we don’t communicate at all.

how do i know, let's turn together to the media information to come from to you and follow the bigwig. maybe this is also a problem that really, here you are, and people need to be somehow collected if the local media do not talk about their local team. we collect to us this, well, outdoor training there are young guys coming. i tell them to come at any time, even to the base, even to the stadium, when the door is open for everyone. come m. i'm waiting, but no one is coming to the base. we have, like, 20 minutes there, but from the city, please, it is open for you. and let's talk about those coaches who were fundamental in your career. and how football players as a coach. and i think that here it is important to say very much about georgy herzen, he recently passed away, and it was very difficult to accept this loss. and tell us what it

means to you. well, i somehow spartak was 3 years old in duplicate, that is, he was not immediately with oleg ivanov, but, in my opinion, from the ninety-fifth year and he came to the games understudy , it turned out that he gave me the way. maybe if even though i am grass here again with oleg ivanovich and at the games for two i was in the application, but it so happened that, probably, not only for me for many young players, georgiy saidzh, when he took the lead, he gave a chance. it’s just that he and oleg ivanovich well, i can’t say anything against e bad against oleg ivanovich but more

liberated, probably, yes, the young players were a yard, a yarts dirsanovich, and everything went like this. more smoothly more emotionally. uh, but required by romancers. that's what made me happy. i was in spartak in torpedo and the national team, which is probably why i perceived his death in this way. close close some important principles you took from his well really creative activity now here's what you can talk about. it is possible for football players, well, to scold, yes, there for something, but you can say, so that he will not

offend. this is what i took. word it is so unpleasant for the players, but not offensive, that is, to make your words, firstly, they are understandable to the players. in what he is wrong, and what should have been done or should you imagine that you are talking for a long time? it seems to me that you are quite capacious and concise enough to do all this in most cases. yes, the longest setup for a match. which did you have? probably, probably the game with locomotives when? amkar came to that famous game, when everyone said that

amkar gives and gives everyone champion points to the locomotive. and when we did not play a home game not at home, but played at the lokomotiv stadium, yes, and when did we beat them two by one there? why, there was a setup, the lineup came on and he pulled his money out of his pocket and put it in from me. what amount is ok? well, at least for me, for football players, maybe there is no atm. and well, we see, again, that both took baskali, how much they talked about the parks

that did not reach. as a result, to krasnodar, and for obvious reasons, and the conclusion. what do you think about this hmm as a coach who has to go to the second league to find a job higher or drag the team higher to earn money? well, it’s clear how i beat it, yes, that is, i was in all leagues, yes, in all the second fnl premier league. well, you should probably appreciate it that you had it. yes? of course i want more. but, but, perhaps, this is a question for leaders to ask. who invites, i guess they see. they don't just take it from the sky, they see it, but they visualize it. yes, someone can say there are experienced our yes there, yes, there is semin, someone else says, yes, the fact that when the capella arrives there is one thing yes, it arrives. he will fall down. it's different when other unknowns arrive. yes, it’s difficult, probably, to understand,

they are talking about what he will give, that he gave some kind of movement for our football, there was heading there, uh, yes, at one time, that is, probably, and such questions, probably can ask it, but the same is the same. how are we reading now? what was the name of the king? yes, the coach who worked for us in many teams. somewhere he won cups well, somewhere the team flew out not very well. i mean the montenegrins teasing me is not tsar alexander mostovoy . well, prince prince. when i read it, it was strong just that the coach was not the same three.

the coach has many assistants, and they are different : someone sits, sticks up there, someone is at the computer, someone is in physical condition. it 's all this is all in common, if you pay attention, many of them sit on the bench with computers, especially rostov has three computers there. one is the condition of the footballers the other is there a vision as the structure of the game one ipad we have it there we have it where the internet is there, at least ours catches there, that is, not in all cities. you can catch uh net. well, well, they don't catch it, or the stadium doesn't allow it. it's jamming over there, so we're keeping an eye on it. we

have everything for a small modest club. yes, we tried everything, returning to the fact that we bought bicycles for recovery we. we bought a gps we bought it back in the second league, we had to buy all this for us now, so we will be preparing to do it. here we will really not be in tambov today, can we? we're going to a green field there, but you can't in tambov in winter. well, firstly, they are leaving from the dining room, they have already returned. we have already returned we were preparing in due time in yaroslavl. yeah

, it was true, it was minus 25 on skis. it's all right. all the same. let's get ready for the football season on skis -25, yes. that year we were preparing then, we gathered for 10 days. uh did aerobic work. skiing, skating , football in the snow, the guys are playing for your conversation. see how you prepare for skiing places do not appeal to you and still you say that russia is a football country. of course, i do not understand how it will be repaired. about how she doesn't and why doesn't she have a football side to answer this question. why are you preparing for football? somehow this relates to football. in what sense, and just doing aerobic work, you just do somen in lokomotiv. gave skis

soccer player. he got up on skis, took poles, and that’s all and aerobic can’t touch the place. and that 's pushed op, went yes we started with you with hockey. and let's, towards the end, also talk about what ovechkin is doing now in the national hockey league. that's what it is for our sport. does it matter for our sport? or is it an absolutely local achievement for the league and for the very fact that, uh, this is happening. this, of course, is a plus for us, of course, a plus for hockey, a plus for our sport. it's a plus for everything moonshine. i don't think he thought about it at first. yes, of course, but now when you

see him, how happy not only, how happy everyone is, the whole team in the locker room, when i also watch these cuts there very often, how happy they are for him, and they themselves want this to happen they want to go down in history, like how we helped build it. yeah, well . so in that regard, uh, we're kind of hoping that we'll see this historic, i think he's got 3 more years. well, yes, i think it goes to two, judging by the way he goes it, but i think the leader is not bad there. yes, i think if it doesn't work out, he'll prolong it no matter how muddied it is. we have 42 in my team. he says, that is, we sold two more. to him. it is necessary to score five more swords, so that 100 swords, to be a better scorer, uh,

yaroslavl. so and it's great that you help him? let's cook let's cook, uh contract. i think the leaders should be looking for money right now. yes, even the show is called football. not hockey. why is football not hockey football? well, because it's different kind of sport. although, although, here larionov said that he unites when his time is, but mine is also mine in winter. you play hockey in the summer. do you play football. so it means, well, the same thing, only this is just a plus in what. player players have a player in the harvest, when in any sport, you can play badly well, but he plays it it 's from the head. our two types of ours, yes, but

probably, others are still team sports.