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the night now surrounds our viewers. and we talk about the most important things in our games. yes, therefore, of course, yes, maybe it has already become such a common technique. well , it's always important how you deal with it. how are you you will manage with it, somehow you will play. nikita and vera have been interested in my interests, in principle , throughout, probably, my whole life. i have one of my favorite books - this is the diary of my bashkirts, and i read it when for the first time only in russia there were passed. this book came out in the ninth year, and i don't know it. how many times i re-read the book it was read very scandalous for there is nothing to say, because maria's mother took from there all points of view controversial things that masha was somehow not very well attested hmm from our spoiled century, looking through the eyes of modern man. well, this is an absolutely innocent diary, cute,
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touching, smart, talented, the girls are very romantic, very beautiful, very talented , tragically passed away so early, dear viewers. we are talking about this rebel maria bashkirtseva. i also think that she is not so much a rebel e as hmm a very sharp and sensitive person, well , here comes the middle of our conversation and i will try to move on to our rubric, starting from the material of your novel every 100 years. it still seems to me that very important is captured here. a story that is related not only to two specific people or to one specific family or to your family too, and not only the family, heroines or heroines, but also to the fate of the country , the fate of russia, because it is about the last quarter of the 19th century. let's be honest, i don't think i was wrong. yes, it would be correct to say so, yes, its the last quarter of the twentieth
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century and much is repeated not only in the fates of heroes who, well, of course, grow up , lose illusions, gain experience like this happens to all people, but some uh, repeated uh, dramatic events also happen to the country. and here is a combination of everyday details that are written out beautifully. no matter how much you ironically over the correct metaphors. here all the words are in the right places. and this big vision. we will try to see this now on a completely different material, and i will remind our viewers that we are in the middle of our conversations. we have an aha one of three, either we talk about a poem, like today, or we take in hand an old book from my uh bookcase, or some familiar quote from classical literature. now we will talk about the poem by nikolai zabolotsky, which
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is called a passerby. and this poem , uh, very famous uh, for those who love nikolai zabolotsky. i consider him an absolutely brilliant poet, and this poem simply describes the route from peredelkino station bypassing the cemetery to the town of writers. this is a well-known fact, but i will say it here. i anticipate my non- acting. ah, such a normal read. here uh, the poet tells us about what we think, it’s not often that we are somehow combined. forgive me for the banality, the material and spiritual consciousness of the spirit, does not have a material carrier, where is my i in the heart in the brain in the hands in this chair is not clear. yes, after all , there is an immortal soul in us, and from our body is riveted to e, everyday events,
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the word soul is repeated here. so many times. let's. let's try to read this poem. just in case, i'll honestly take my hand with a cheat sheet, because i can go astray, but after all, the passer-by nikolai zabolotsky, filled with spiritual anxiety , walks along the railroad sleepers in a three-piece soldier's bag. he walks too late at night at the unar station, the penultimate train of the moon has left and shines over the roofs beyond the edges of the barn. getting up, turning, in the direction of the bridge. he enters the wilderness of spring, where the pines, leaning towards gost, stand like a crowd of souls, here the pilot of the region, alleys, rests a vorohelent and the dead propeller
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crowns his monument whiter and in the dark hall of the universe, the national foliage rises, that sudden instant, soul-piercing peace. that marvelous peace before which, agitated and always in a hurry, the living human soul, with lowered gaze, and in the slight rustling of the kidneys and in the slow noise of the branches, the invisible young man the pilot talks to her about something, and the body wanders along the road, walking through thousands of years and his grief and anxieties run like dogs in the wake of an amazing thing a man and at the beginning wanders along the road and at the end along the road only at the beginning of his misfortune and sorrow, it seems spiritual, and at
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the end not bodily, because the eternal is not the destructible soul in it speaks to the soul of the buried dead pilot's souls speak of something else. this is an amazing switch from the material plane to the spiritual and spiritual plane, which is possible only for the bolotsky to some extent, it is given by matvey in this novel, because uh here we are talking about two uh hmm girls, uh, who are called similar xenichka. and what is the point in this rhyme, that the youngest of them saana receives other people's inanimate diaries how it all works. firstly, about the name, xenia really bears the name, toby of the heroine's guests is a stranger. yes, of course, yes, yes hotels alien uh-huh and here are both heroines, they really are strangers. they are strangers in
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their family. they are sometimes strangers to their own country. they are sometimes strangers to themselves. for me, the names are generally very important. and by the way, nothing is random. even the title of the book every 100 years, if you make an abbreviation, then there will be a name, patronymic and surname of the main character - this is ksenia sergeevna sergeevna leskova perfectly. and i would like them to be ksenia well , firstly, my grandmother's name was ksenia mikhailovna, i could not in this case somehow here change something. it seemed to me that you were true to them, it suited her very well, in general, the name xenia was not customary to give those years to noble families, the sovereign emperor named his daughter xenia and the nobles followed him, rising in price to him, in general, it was pure fashion at the turn of the century for example, there was no name dima , there was only a broom diminutive dmitry yes , almost none in the 19th century was not very good. it seems popular to me, not as popular as
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, for example, people of my generation, because in my class, either six or seven, where he studied all were dima not a single mussel. so yes, that is, it was important for me that the name was just that, and all the other rhymes - some of them were laid on purpose, and some i later saw for myself, or they even suggested to me, for example, uh, the older heroine of xenia who is xenichka. uh, when she is in switzerland here, the second part of the novel is completely devoted to switzerland yes, she is all afraid of the arrival of a comet that should destroy the earth about this comet is a very comet and writes about her in the newspapers about her flies and soon there will be nothing left of us. years, of course, sveta's catastrophe xenia tells her a different scale, but the explosion at the sorting station at the sverdlovsk sorting station. this is a completely different story on a different scale, but everyone was also afraid and decided that even yes fortage. i needed these rhymes in order to show that in fact, not so
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much and much is changing, that is, of course, the world is changing in the sense that it is becoming more so, you know, scary and comfortable. now everything is very convenient too absolutely, that is a world where a person forgets that he is dying. he is weak, of course, mortal. yes, and so on. in fact, it still doesn't change that much. why literature, that he is still mortally weak. yes? yes, actually not so much not so much we have advanced in the study of people. we still don't know where we come from, where we work is done, but also not completely. well, people want to know. because it will be with him after death, but i always found myself more interesting question. and what happened to us before birth and here we also do not know anything mine thoughts, because zabolotsky's poem was exactly about this amazed that you chose it? this is my favorite, but revive the soul.
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we are not buddhists, not well, no matter what we believe the transmigration of souls the eternal soul is indestructible, what was before, where how, how does this relate to my current needs, absolutely applies to this. what irony is absolutely serious and many things. in fact, it is impossible to explain it is impossible to explain these strange coincidences that occur in life, you know , i very rarely write about myself. uh, reads. us always interesting. but it really happened to you, well, how would it look like in reality, if i wrote what really happened to me. nobody would have believed me, because my whole life is a series of things i want to emphasize. and say that's what you need to expect from one matveeva and why is it not written? because it's a secret. it's intimate, i don't want to expose it. and i don't really understand yet. you can give some literary form, well, coincidence and surprising cases in some rhymes. i am very
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i love the theme of doubles, for example, and the fact that we very often come across in life people who are similar either to us or to some important people for us, this follows all observant people. and i even wrote a whole collection of stories on this topic, because i write just such collections of the cycle, united by some idea. it seems to me that we also know nothing about doubles, that is, literature is always, as in some kind of complex double. even if it's not literally a coincidence, yeah and sometimes it's the one whom we are hiding the author. i mean speak. no, it's not me, it's him, and sometimes it's completely pure fiction. but yes, there is always some kind of second, third, fourth level, the more difficult it is. prose, the more these levels, the more interesting it is to dissect and open them. well, this, of course, should be dealt with, probably, after all, to the letter. i'll check out or very, very gifted talented readers who sometimes proofread what the writer did not even want
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you to read. yes, uh, gifted readers are able to hmm figure this out and catch it the writer's tail is correct aspect plus meaning gogol nowhere says that his dead souls trilogy is what was supposed to reproduce the plan of dante e and infernoportoria and paralysis from purgatory ryan , which his friends came up with for him. those who helped him were not friends of criticism, literate readers and aksakov and apollon grigoriev hmm , of course, and belinsky, who fought with this now, what can we say, what is this sense? no, of course there is. despite the fact that gogol did not invent it. that is, the book is such a self-selling, of course, book written when it was read, yes, and here we answer our question, which we posed a little higher. and why are books actually written so that they are read and re-read probably, and it is still desirable not to read one, but a little more and several generations, because
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there is a double and a reader in the offspring. yes. uh, how our word will respond double happens and posthumous very often this is a very important story for some attentive readers, but then again, if you're lucky irony in this book. well, there is, just know, i have at all, in basically, a sense of humour. well, not everyone, as it understands, may not have responded. i just uh, want to know how you irony yeah that's not too impactful. this is a very non-ironic most ironic person. well, we live in a time when e without e. i don't like acrobatic mistakes in russian speech, as pushkin said. yes, as a non-ronic subtext, but it seems almost impossible to have a serious conversation. i just really like what is in the books of hanna matveeva, in particular in this book. eh, a serious conversation is possible, even if there is irony and although
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i'm tempted to ask what is abbreviated there, if there are so many hundreds of pages in the book, but i can say here again i want to make such a throwaway gesture, only we only have it in a podcast. let them talk, let them read. you can find out what was not included in the book, she is matveeva uh-huh in fact, i wrote. i won't be like this for very long too long 10 years. i have been collecting material for quite some time. i had to visit all the places that i write, that is, the geography of the country is larger than switzerland and khabarovsk riga petersburg in general, the mass of some places where i needed to be here. then, in principle, i entered into this topic for a very long time, and then i could not get out of it , people who write great novels. they know this effect, that is, it is not difficult to start a book. there, in general, everyone can and it is very difficult to finish difficult to get out of this material. you begin to live in it, you feel comfortable in it. it's like watching the show
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you like so it never ends. and, well, sometimes really tv shows almost never end, but the novel had to somehow leave a point here. and when i did this, i realized that the book turned out to be such that the binding would not withstand it, and my publishers and i decided that we would still try to shorten it and it turned out what happened, but in fact we cut it very carefully and not a single character. virtually no, one storyline . i cut, but at least garaged. you know, i actually tried so hard to be very careful. and i think that someday i will publish a director. version i have this one too i'm haunted you know, here's ours talk. i smoothly decided to end it on the note that you say , i am also sorry to end our conversation, because we were not able to talk about many things, both about new books and about
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your native ural, as such a place of power for modern literature, but i am sure that all this is yet to come. and today i am very grateful to you that you spoke so wonderfully about your prose today. we thank anna matveeva for having a conversation with her today, uh, in a podcast. let them talk, let them read, i say goodbye, before goodbye. and i say, as always, read with pleasure. hello, i’m a cosmonaut pilot about hatters and today we’ll talk about how the selection of the cosmonaut detachment takes place, who they take, who they don’t take in the future, how is the preparation for their space flight, how they fly from the point of view of medicine, how
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it goes on, of course the same rehabilitation after returning to earth. look, we know each other, but it is necessary, of course, to introduce you to, uh, a general practitioner. e, deputy head of the clinical department of the medical cosmonaut training center named after yuri alekseevich gagarin maria pushkar vasilevsky hello well, firstly, look, what are you doing at the shawl center , cosmonauts what are your functional duties anton i, as a representative, uh, of our entire large medical management unit , i want to briefly talk about what is medicine in general at the cosmonaut training center in our honey board. as you know, five cases are engineering that provide work in the medical departments of the clinical department where i am and two more cases that deal with purely cosmic medical matters. these are the department of preparation for space flight factors and the department of medical-pediological and psychological training. and we also have
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, as it were, our own pharmacy division, which also provides us with medicine and medical products for astronauts. here's the clinical department, where i work. this is most of all, it probably looks like what an ordinary person considers a polyclinic, that is, this is the unit that controls health astronauts, namely, by checking their state of health, that is, we have ordinary doctors and a general practitioner. i am a doctor, surgeon, urengologist, ophthalmologist, dentist, neuropathologist. we have epidemiologists. and all these doctors we monitor the astronaut's health. and plus we check them as experts, because an astronaut is not just a person, but this is a person performing a very important state mission. and these professions, associated with a high risk to life, they are regulated. and therefore the state of health must, uh, fit into the scope of the order. as you know, we have
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a special order specifically for cosmonauts, a special space order that takes its history from gagarina no our order, uh, 2001. he will soon issue a new order, which will be reworked for 20 years. yes, and everything is spelled out there, what an astronaut can get sick with, what he cannot get sick with. what can hurt? they are people. what is the verification step. now we are reopening the secret that an astronaut is not super. healthy people because they like ordinary people have some kind of disease features. yes, this is our argon. yes, the cosmonaut is still super healthy people, but who, like all people , can get sick with age and as a result of their professional activities. sometimes occasionally. and we need to notice it in time to prevent it. if it needs to be cured, that's why you know
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our order states how often the medical examinations are done. yes controls become healthy every 3 months. here anton knows to take tests every 3 months go through all the ecg specialists many times a year bullying back. as you like, at least the doctors begin to scoff at the full program. well, due to the fact that we are such experts, we check. we are also selecting cosmonauts. yes, this is very much for us , how is it going? yes? this is a completely special function of ours, which, uh, is associated with a lot of responsibility, because sometimes. yes, for its part comes worries. you must have been worried too. it's a dream. this is a therapist's dream. all the time for a long time in a person dream. he wants to come, and the closer he seems to strive for his dream, the more he tunes in to my memory. here were
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the selections in 2010, it turns out in the eighteenth and twentieth years. and this is always a very exciting responsibility, all these selections. uh, at first you somehow know the ads do on the site are laid out in space. what are the simplest requirements - this is anthropometry, that is, a certain height, a certain weight must be parameters for a person to fit hmm actually into space in a spaceship in his suit. suit got in. yes, then we have some. by the way, i'm just not short from 150 to 190. and the weight from 50 to 95 is according to the spacesuit, but there is still false. there must also be a definite one. the length of the torso is sometimes a person’s height , suitable, that is, e rosidya, yes rossetia, and in this way the tape is measured, in general, because you have this person
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in a certain position on the ground. and if his torso is too long, then he simply may not fit. everything ended well. it happens that a person does not meet these parameters. yes, it happens miracles people grow. you know, they even grow in space and people submit medical documents, the preliminary most common ones. there are usually analyzes and a chest x-ray, an x-ray of the nasal sinuses and an ultrasound scan. and we first look at them at the preliminary stage , these analyzes are documents, documents, when the documents are selected for medicine and a person, for example, is suitable, well, according to some other age criteria, for example, yes 35 years of education. now we also have you yes, how? uh, we usually have selections like this departmental people are still selected
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from such industries that are well related to astronautics, 35 to a maximum of 35, and a minimum, and a minimum must have work experience of 3 years experience, when we had an open recruitment. do you remember this, we had this first discovery for the twelfth year. it wasn't just open. he was taking everyone. we read the documents, there was a populist singer who played spoons, there were completely unexpected people there. that is, people are completely professions far from space, there was an actor who for some reason decided. that this is some kind of show, he said, i have it, only here i have a window. this is where i fly into space. and then, in short, all the shooting told me, well, continue to shoot the actor who did not pass, and then he said, i will learn physics. i'll still be a little no. yes, and now, when a person has passed these parameters in absentia, he comes to the internal selection. and there, you know, we have four more commissions, that is, medicine is the last before that
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we have a professional selection, which is also. well it's just looking, yes, checking check. eh, did you buy a diploma , well, there are usually questions in physics in mathematics, they give something in english, they ask, they let you learn some technical document and you have to, well, explain it, that is, with can you figure out the scheme there, then they test how good you are at engineering. that's what i would say. well, in general, such a selection of professional people is screened out. remember same was such, then psychological selection. you know that they are afraid of him very much - this is psychological selection. this is for us, in my opinion, most of all in recent times psychology. in general, sometimes it is difficult. of course, i passed it as an astronaut. here is the current selection. that is, when we were just selected there, it seemed easier to me, there were some tests, like ordinary pilots, so there was nothing new for me, and now some tests are based on some russian soviet foreign superpsychologists. naturally. there they can already
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shock her a little to see your reaction. here he is with them. what is it you do? the test, they say, you will have to accurately beat the current, but you must do kind of like there will be nothing on earth, now, and uh, based on the conclusions of these tests. they continue to say a year, yes, that is , they say. that this is not our choice? that is , we do not invent anything. we have tests here, they give us documents, that is, we do not challenge the lungs there, they trust nuclear weapons, which are there, well, this is when everything and those do not happen. we also know such people, yes, then we have physical education and physical education can also be difficult, because when i looked at the requirements, physical education will fall, how is it flat water? well, what is it? well, why don’t you enter it wrong, then you fell. you just have to steal three meters to enter the water, but don't cry, so to speak,
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you'll overeat fall no from the side, but just don't cry, meat from a three-meter. here you will be frightened, at some point you will be delayed. then you will not enter like this, like a pendulum with its head. and that it is delayed, then it is very painful, probably. i looked at these physical ones per kilometer per 100 m, but among us. you know there are no olympic astronauts champions. we don't have any nobel laureates. well, there are excellent students, but let's say it's super, physical education. do you remember the cosmonaut did not pass alone in the tenth year, he trained , he came after 2 years and passed, so everything is difficult. and only after the difficult and this, when you already know. here we had, let's say , 400 left, for example, there, well, 150 there 200 comes through all these stages to medicine, as a rule, it comes. well, no more than 40 people, and then we actually go into business. we are watching them carefully. we are looking
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analyzes for the game , we check the very first audiograms aloud. this is yours. do you know how complicated the equipment is? uh, what we don't have in star city, they collect people and take them to moscow but that's later. that we even at this stage have an ecg monitor. echo happens. we, too, weed out by vision, by teeth, by audio. well, anything can happen, then we let them in for an in-depth examination in moscow, where they have powdered. mri also reveal surprises people believe that they are completely healthy. they don't know anything in their heads, that is, part of the dropouts are already the most-most go to tests related to physical activity. that is, this is a velometer, a passive pastural test, and no one really knows anything about it, right? it's like that. in general, an invention was invented in our inter-board. we had such outstanding people. it would seem that a person lies on the opposite side of the table and is tilted at
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different angles. well, that is, it becomes, or it costs. yes, and this transmigration of blood allows us to assess how his body is. maybe then react to weightlessness and the first moment you hit. our blood is collected in the upper part, too. what 's going on in your head with an increase in blood pressure? yes, of course, this is good, but we still have a pressure chamber. yes , three serious tests. this is a pressure chamber. and we also have a vestibular chair. about the vestibular chair. yes, but all this is possible, in principle, for example, the vestibular apparatus can be trained. as well as physical education, then we have a pressure chamber, where , of course, we have these drops pressure. it is an altitude of 5.000 m at the selection is checked dive is checked when the descent is faster and possible. and then, of course, the centrifuge. this is the quintessence. it can be said well top. i like it, of course i like it, you feel that you are a pilot, that you are sitting at the helm. here comes
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the overload. i have been flying since the age of 15, but in airplanes. for me, it's very simple and overload real fighters to a lot more up to 9 units. and we have only five there, which is nothing at all. and it also happens with us that people do not pass these tests. and we also had such an example that a person trained. well, of course, he did not train the centrifuge. he just became, well , he matured, became more mature and passed the selection, too, we know and so, of course, these overloads. there plus three plus five or there plus four plus eight. well, some by nature, some, like my profession, and some can train, so not everything is like that and when we have already selected and it has passed and these people have passed. well, this turns out to be the quintessence, sometimes we select it. how many are there 8 or 10 people and all these people are ready, and now their fate is decided by the voice of the commission. yes, when it is not selected, in the end, four or five, and it is
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a shame that among other things being equal, but this is no longer medical medicine. we had some cases when well, something like that during the selection there is something that cannot be entered into a normal eh? the rhythm of ordinary life, yes, we had a lot of unusual ones, for example, now, when they began to do it, a kind of pantomogram is such you know panoramic pictures of teeth, but everyone has teeth like teeth and suddenly we see a picture of a person. here here, like a saber-toothed tiger, here are the teeth, so in the picture they lie like this. well where is this extreme wisdom lie. here. imagine this. here is the jaw no, and they lie above the upper teeth. these are not erupted fangs, but a person’s teeth did not erupt; the dentition was formed and in general it did not interfere with him in any way, but such an astronaut cannot be allowed. why? well, because teeth that have not erupted can begin to cut at
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any moment in space, including in space in preparation. here, imagine daughters ready to remove, and removing is a heavy operation. well, well, he was offered. he simply did not have time, that is, you need to remove it before you come. and again, one has to think. so he needs such a difficult difficult operation to remove these two teeth to go into space. maybe he has a different fate. well, sometimes you think, what happens is very unusual, it happens somehow that a person has come. he has one leg, in short, a friend, well, everything seems to be nothing with a stick, there is no taste in space, you, well, it's imperceptible. in general, they don’t need legs in space, but on earth a person must train. yes, there to run, jump, there are all our tests. our doctors by the faith of geometry, they say just don’t send it to us with a led bike, as it will twist, it won’t pass. what else is so unusual? well , you won't reveal all the secrets. well, the most common
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with us, of course, was in terms of vision. sometimes people did not know that their eyesight was not clear and people were in their sinuses. here they had a runny nose , got complications in the sinuses and did not notice a cyst could form. the cyst does not allow. okay, go through. here is the pressure chamber. these tests and barometric pressure drops obligatorily 100%. well, for example, uh, there is vision. uh, not 100% valid in front of kids. well, at school and someone is wearing glasses, for some reason they think that if he has glasses, he is not an astronaut, he is not. you can’t take it as a pilot that i had such an incident, when i was in our seventh clinical hospital for pilots here in moscow and i was finishing it and was just about to go to apply for a detachment and suddenly they write me osteochondrosis. i almost fainted from him. i i say, how is it all going well, they doctor says, and i thought you would thank me. that is, e wrote all the andros
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to the pilot. yes, he can fly. if without pain, as soon as he says that he feels he will also write off. yes, everything happens in life. here he wants. well, he needs to quit. yes, it’s a good article to have a pension, all these benefits are there. he says. everything is already making noise and everything is writing it off. he speaks. it's strange, but he says, you 're going to sleep at the academy. i say, no, i graduated from the academy, he is like that. where is the astronaut? he like that, but you can become an astronaut, that is, it turns out that a gladiologist is not allowed at the academy at all. and the astronauts are our neighbor. can't eat without pain. we also have such an offended sufferer, well, not everyone's teeth were pulled out, but then modern ones are inserted for free. notice, huh? in armenia, it is absolutely safe to lie here, you know, as you like. i be on the spot and
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