[000:00:00;00] thing listen marina that you might be inspired by some wild difficult moment in life that you can remember, the most difficult, maybe, you don’t need to tell us about it, that is, you don’t have to tear it, it ’s not our soul. just. remember that music pulled you out of this, which helped you survive. the same, yes, at one time, when it was necessary , you just had to listen to good music and survive and not lose faith in your music, that if you do something, that something will happen, there will be people , time, place and so on. cool, i figured it out than garbich, then a calm verse and a very sharp refrain shot like that. here, as it were, now i understand her, and now i don’t know how often to list manson so shot that the whole world went nuts from her, including madonna , who, in my opinion, gave her some kind of

diamond necklace, or lee something else, that is, a madon, and expressed that she was then a prima donna, she was at the peak, she sewed manson , made a gift of some very expensive one, thereby expressing her respect for what she was doing. and when i look at the clouds i i listen to sting of such an early policy or later, he is different at different times , but for some reason, well, you also associate yourself with different times, so everything comes in, he does not change himself, so you can spend it with yourself in your own way the road is also in the army, i remember digging and i hop russiance love the children to a song sounds in my head in my head, how powerful it is. let's have some music when we get up on the segways. you did not indulge in these two-wheeled ones. there are 100, in my opinion, these measurements in milliseconds

they produced sigvas in their electronic brains in order to understand where a person wants to bend in the same place. forward, you go forward here, there you go back the bike. it's captivating on its own. what russian athletes did not put potatoes on.

no, just a bag of kiwi in your pocket. nike you yourself think that you wrote with moscow potatoes. we'll give you a bag no, well, you look in your pocket for a bag of kiwi, what kind of pocket should you have? look, my pants are called cargo, they have pockets. well, let's just say that a bag of kiwi can fit in this pocket. maybe one plus two. how many kiwi bags do you have? come on now to the truth of life, if you have wide trousers with a slope , what kind of shorts am i wearing there, real ones, as oleg called them nesterov, these are his shorts, in fact, his happy resort shorts. that is, he was very cool in them, he rested. and so he brought them to the set when we were there you tried. well, something so wide with pockets like white ones and i think there, kiwis fit half a kilo anyway you know, well, good. i mean

beer, you know? i'm here torturing people and not let in, not indulging in explanations, explanations and other words. what is the package. what kind of bird? i am an artist. i see it that way. well no. yes, of course. no, maybe it's a bag with a dead bird, and i don't know how, for example, she is blindly very sad. just in major and that's it. and so something there directly in depression. by the way, about the deaths of nine zhiguli died in 2000, i am very suspicious of russian cars. well, it may be now, i have not belonged to them for a long time. well, how would the possibilities now, yes, now just the lights of the car are just here, if there is

an opportunity to try, guys, just test it. and try it, as it is now . our athletes take first place right at all international races. it's just that the cars are really fire, and it's not all-wheel drive. this is the front. yes, they are straight dots that are specially redone. decades, and it feels like we're talking about a century, how many in 2004? yes, but we still throw in there the first second fifth and so on, because it is impossible to speak separately of the fourth. well what concerns yes rip rip, eight rip nine, but it turned out fifteen is the same kiwi, only more smooth let's say. they rounded my bumper there. organized there. there, some kind of natural natural dashboard came to us this year ikea, which came to us for a long time. you know why, by the way , i still have my native pencils, that's all, a whole box. yes, and i recently saw that

they sell a pencil from such, in my opinion, for two or ama rubles or a million rubles. by the way , they also have a whole box swung. listen guys, well actually we have in the studio suddenly began to grow and burst a cup for pencils from pencils from ikea olechka maxim you understand, this time you see it is a very convenient topic, how would i write down some texts for him all the time. well, that is, it is very convenient for me to have an ergonomic little pencil, a sharp product, as well as not in my pocket, ay yes, but you don’t wear jeans. it's just a mystery to me too. what to carry in your pocket? how this camera became just digital, you know, we used to give jeans, and we won’t know how good it is. i got marina against the background of the inscription 20 years later. well, i'm sure it turned out well, but i clicked again, just in case

, and when they showed it and found out, and then hop. well, this hop here you like it. and you can even watch don’t delete it, you hear some disappeared, someone doesn’t have a mother, they just forcibly threw him out, she went on tape. come on, 'cause you can take a million pictures to choose from, and the film isn't imprinted as it is. these are the expressive codecs that i did with red light with an increase in fan size. quite already. i fixed it as a child too. yes, all cases also took pictures all sorts of glitches. we are even with one of my friends with andrey radio. he is such a famous designer. and so he kind of used a special spoiled film, that is , which expiration date had already passed, these all sorts of reagents were already there in the thirties forties. it's already like this. well, it's a different section. yes, it's very cool. in fact , the paper itself is somehow completely uninteresting. all this can be done with filters.

any photo can be spoiled, you can’t do it like that, listen and you are aware that in 2004 just all your hits. from cds they went to flash drives, digital players began to appear for sure. yes, who used to be sitting in the car. i have the opportunity to listen to flash drives. that is, mp3 players, this thing. how do you feel about this digitalization? i think it killed the tube sound a little bit. well, a little yes, but still he is now back again. well, now these are all sorts of waffle formats, there are losers with these things , even my friends called me a gram record, but i did not blame them. yes, the law of nature passes 12 years and everything is in a circle. yes it's philosophical note. i will tell you, dear friends, that i love you very much, that i was extremely glad to see you. today. here is a project from kotlab. on the first channel in the discussion of 2004,

after all, which was wonderful, in any case it was not bad. yes there is remember and it was warm guys. thank you. thank you love marina chirkunova group total and the main hit beats adrenaline in the eyes.

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heroine, polina, hello. hello, you came with a problem that you know. i thought that the universe sent me so that i could see how it happens with me too uh-huh you are the third one who told me about this? let me tell you i suffer from very strong irritability. and i really suffer from it. i can't handle my anger. i can not deal with anger. although a lot of work on myself on all fronts. well , since i started working on myself surfaced. this underwater stone and now does not allow me to live in peace in love in gratitude in a positive positive thinking. it means you can't handle anger. this is what it means, well, everything irritates me, everything starts me. it’s just that in the store the tra-

she described to us when her situation. i just realized what happens sometimes. well, it's just, well, it's impossible not to react to some rudeness in the store or on the tram. and rightly so. yes, i never start a scandal first. but if not quite, a glaring case, but as soon as they give me a reason. i, like a dog, can break loose and let's be specific, please, examples of specific cases. yes. here, for example, in the summer, my girlfriend and i rested on the pier. and we were resting and the daughter of some woman was jumping. so well , splash everything, well, it was unpleasant, yes, and i asked to say, please, can you jump? well, a little easier. come on, you're people here, and she started telling me, go to another place. you sunbathe there, there will be no splashes. and i got carried away. i began to insult her, that she had no right to tell me about it, that i simply asked and then began

to get personal. in the end, everything got to the point that i began to call her fat like that, but these are strangers. yes, and when loved ones suffer, they used to suffer from this, my mother suffered a lot, but now i already control myself . mostly. these outbreaks still occur by strangers. yes, because i really love close people, and i specifically i even tell myself. you love loved ones, or received from them. well, figuratively, they say, in the teeth for your outbursts. now you have reflex. don't, please. my mom is very patient. thank her for this. well, it turns out. so, somewhere, apparently, in relations with loved ones, you are holding back, holding back, and this is what happens next, well, releasing your parse on purpose, as if people close to me are on it. well, they say, they don’t feel sorry for them. therefore , some cashier mostly suffers, which, for example, you can’t stop? yes, when is the flash starts, and then i feel a lot of

remorse. i suffer. yes, you are a woman whom i then began to call fat. she , well, she herself was in shock, because, as it were, that i had already begun to go over personally to poke her on purpose. well, what am i to show by this that i do not respect her, and she tells me. well, you know the girl will surrender to you for such a feed. i'm so ah. all at once i am conscience. i went to apologize to her. because it is conscience or it is fear, to feed you will also give different things. no fear of punishment and feeling repentance are different. things. both were at that moment. i'm not exactly out of fear. eh, i apologized. i ’m sorry, i can’t, i really apologized, because i cooled down in a second, i repented of it. but of course, when she told me, like about karma. damn well, here, uh, you us. so, at first they were deceived from the very

beginning when they said that you do not control it. it turns out that you do control it to some extent, firstly, look. the first element of control. you began to hold back with your close second element of control, and you went to apologize. this is also an indication that you to some extent you control it to some extent. yes, it will get rid of it completely. i can't and it makes me very anxious. why maybe not? live how does she understand that he just looks completely ugly. yes, because a person in anger is a disgrace. i look like a habalka, first of all, like someone who came from the village. eh, the aunt who curses everyone. there was such a case, we were traveling in a bus to a woman. somehow, in short, they punched the ticket incorrectly, and she sits, and now she curses this driver, and she cannot stop like that fool is not normal. i understand that at the moment i look just like this woman. i want to stop this.

this funnel of negativity in life, at least start with myself and even the people who i need it, now it’s true, i don’t dissemble in any case to answer good if the cashier is there so that he doesn’t ask for money. she gave me the wrong item. well, nothing to wish and good luck and move on. damn, read it somewhere. uh, in social networks about what is needed, but to be calm repay good. these are all the internet to grab the voice standards clearly alien to your personality. you are such a normal, habalist, which means you are a young woman, and then you start to drive yourself into these standards. ah, i must be forgiving, good to return good for evil. what are you, where did you even get this? well, you just understand that when i feel good inside me, it is it that gives rise to positive thinking in me, if i start quarreling with people once in a row, two scandals, and that's it. this is in me this is

an accumulation of negativity. and i already hate the whole world. i already hate everything around me all the circumstances, damn it, and you work in the moscow longevity with the elderly? yes? yes, here you also have no ears on them. there, too, you control yourself. and i don’t even have any precedents there to somehow flare up, and there is no one to get annoyed with. absolutely wonderful people work there. this is precisely not the satisfaction of circumstances or without punishment. you understand that if you go to work some kind of capricious grandmother, well, there are different grandmothers and they will start you. uh, it means to bring yourself here and you you will give. here's a flash. anger will simply fire you, i can’t answer you. e to this question, because there were no precedents at work. on the whole, as it were, as i say, i am sometimes aware of it. a volume where you can and where you can’t with loved ones at work

you can’t be with a woman on the pier, can you where you really are? they cannot answer. yes? well, yes, where you can already in it. uh, i meant that i can't stop, because i cross all the lines and make a fuss. it can be different. that's the way to carry you start when in adolescence or vice versa, when did you finish school? well, a sharp irritability attacked me. this was the case. e. in the summer it was still a very long time ago. there you are. now you are a grown woman. yes, yes, there was another case on the train in anapa, when next to us, we went to work as animators this summer in anapa, it took two and a half days to go with us women sat down. well, they got it too. you, too, from some village are going to the sea for the first time, they are tipsy. and they started to provoke me, but naturally, it provokes the one who is provoked and

naturally. i responded to their provocation. there was also a verbal altercation. he got into a lot of trouble. they are trying to offend me that i have scattered my clothes all over the train. i somehow try to offend them, and in general, uh, well, how would the neighbors in the compartment drive forward 2.5 days and already just sat down like this, well, i don’t know how you are natalia but i feel that when polina tells conflicts. she comes alive. i have such a sparkle in my eyes, such liveliness appears, and vice versa, when you polina starts talking. here i should be kind, because i still have this, well, somehow , not with yourself, somehow your life becomes less. as a clinical psychologist, you advise me to stay such a havalka and make a fuss and walk like him, as a physical psychologist on the air, he is now provoking you, and you are fine. you know, you are about to start yelling at us and perhaps even your mother, yes, let's try to know what to think about, if

you have recently started, maybe some kind of hormonal story. maybe here you need go to an endocrinologist. i checked that red is not crazy. my mom tested me. yes, that's how i see it. wow, yes. and what if, since when, well, when my grandmother died in march, it was a very strong shock for me, and i was prescribed antidepressants from these antidepressants. i started getting irritable. oh, here's the thing, it started and i was prescribed other drugs. they even said that maybe i have bipolar disorder, then they told me. i started having allergies. i went to another psychiatrist. now i'm taking in a very small quantities, but i'll tell you that well , it still hasn't gone anywhere. let's talk in general. here again, after all

, this request for justice is a request to prove one's case. here he always was, of course, always appeared , then they just provoked a little, then that it was and in fact, most likely in polina's personality well , there is already this trait, and some kind of sharp reaction, for example, to injustices are given. yes, for some out of order the most good, which should be fists. i just interesting, the very mechanics of these outbreaks. why do they arise? that is, what actually screams in polina when she screams at pyaterochka's porridge or at and i'm a mother in persian, what is her crown screaming at? crown crown, i know how everything in this world should be arranged. i am the smartest. i'll tell you all now. and

if you are in my model of my fantasy, don’t fit in, i’ll start stomping my feet, i know from childhood whether it’s coming dad is there. what tell? well, i was mostly raised by my mother and grandmother. this clearly does not educate me. how can this be connected no, that's the male limiting beginning of this. come on, that no one gave on the lips for the shout of obscenities of childhood, not that the lips make sense, yes, this is not there, but mother see, she is so forgiving. yes, such a person prays almost for us, and what was it like, please tell us what it was like, a settlement of cities, the city of kirovo-chepetsk, the kirov region, where i grew up and was born mikhail is right. both my mother and grandmother raged at me, i was the first and only child in everything in our entire

large family, and they prayed for me. i filed hope. i'm the light in the window, of course. i was forgiven everything. well, in general, of course, the situation was alarming. mom went to work. i lived with my grandmother. uh, grandma was so almost crying, and you have been in moscow for 5 years. and of course, all this was transferred not enough money. mom was making money. mm, how could they, they brought me up to give me a better future and yes, i agree that this is such nurturing, but now it affects the fact that when the picture of the world is slightly different from what i am in me this i do not like. i feel irritated. i can’t put him anywhere yet, and i really didn’t come here for popularity. i came here because this is the problem. i am really very worried. i work with

a psychologist. and i often discuss this with her. where are these children, when you are on the bus in the morning, i really want to enjoy the new day. i really feel better when i smile. you really love yourself more like this when i have gratitude, and i didn’t read it. this is the philosophy that i teach myself, we will give zero for a long time. now let's give ourselves a wonderful man of genius for our theater. i finished the underline. it was a direct hit on a half-bomb. leona exploded over the roof. in general, the blockade is the blockade yes, i worked at home, in addition, i was in the fire brigade, and in my free time , you know, i dragged my score and

didn’t know him from music and didn’t know anything about his name. i did not know that. two stories of shostakovich's wife tomorrow at first, he devoted the ninth grade to me. he started the day i first time there and stayed. i realized that no matter how much he loved. galya maximum me, but the main thing is that he loved to compose music. pentalgin is the number one remedy

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allows a lot of things. yes, all of a sudden you are going to moscow let's go to moscow why study russian state social university you enrolled in universities data budget. i'm fine. mom, grandmother were proud, daughter, well done well, yes, they wanted to let me go. well, i, as it were, who to me, maybe you stood adapted in moscow , well, it was hard. and what will be the first time i broke away from my mother from my grandmother, who did everything for me around the house, cooked and cleaned. and so i myself, in all of vast moscow, still cannot go to the hostel. there was a lot of conflict with other girls. well, there were a carrot girl on my shelf, put this carrot, then flew all over the room. well then there is not in march, it all started with you, in fact, the problem was with a sharp reaction , it was always yes, yes. and what was the story with carrots? why did she start flying? because

the girl just took over your shelf. well, or i, on the contrary, put it on her shelf. she asked me to leave. and i somehow very sharply told you that there is not enough space in this refrigerator? take your carrots and get out well, that is, some of your personal little place in this generally live. yes, your little piece that belongs to you at least situational in this situation. yes, and they let him in and that's it. and here, then, the lid flies. yes, the fountain is open. you can not yourself i want to remember. on the line, but the phrase is something like i don't want the caller to think that i came here like that. here from the village habalka. listen, so you came from the village, the city of kirovo-chepetsk is not a village. well, okay, by moscow standards, any moscow will tell you yes, that this is a village, but, but that’s not the point, it’s not bad to come from the village. why do you have this very rustic assertiveness, which some call very good.

and what's wrong with a normal town, you are like that, it means that you made your way here, you came here because yours is what they call habalist, that is, it is your success that ensured this to you. you deny it very much. i'm not saying that she shouldn't work to work, your problem. but what was your business? and here? well, this is so conventionally called to come from the village or to be in a muscovite. there are muscovites who are not the best in manners. the point here is just how i am. i see myself as they don't need to defend themselves, and you defend yourself when you scream, and when you get ripped off, it goes. uh, some kind of your protection, either where it hurts or where you are afraid. yes, you are starting to defend yourself against something. here michael is now trying to get to the bottom. what is an attempt to prove that i’m here, uh, either i’m rightfully my own, yes, or i have the right, and not to hang around those who value it, or you’re proving something, you are this moment,

that’s not at all what you do not seem to me some. in short, the question is, at what cost? at what cost at the cost of yourself erring i don’t want to turn inside out, but here’s a concept for you, damn it, you see, there is such a loud behavior, obsessive seeking conflict behavior, yes, and there are emotions. here's how you look at such an approach that you can separate emotion and behavior separately, so that you can continue to behave this way when you need to be in control, but at the same time not fall into this rot. do not try to stop the behavior of the ability to apply this behavior. this is valuable, for example, to raise your voice to some scoundrel. yes, of course, that he is here i understand, yes, but now i'm on you shouted. i don't feel any anger towards you.

i just applied this behavior. that's what i'm trying to tell you, this is the first. yes? work with emotion, not behavior. and with you, most likely, on the contrary, you are trying to squeeze it in yourself, how not to behave like that there . and how to work with emotion, and for this you need to understand that your emotions are not a consequence of the behavior of other people. this is a consequence of the fact that you imagined people for yourself. and you demand from them that they match your fantasies, so work with your fantasies. and will give you the ability to worry less less annoyed. tell me, is this true ? everyone has their own lies no wrong. let's deal with truth separately. this is a podcast of the psyche, where i report to journalists and clinical psychologist mikhail khors analyzes

the most difficult technical situations and history. what does the truth mean in general, what is the truth? well, the truth is, this is a fact or some obvious description of reality, they are obviously a reality that people agree, no, not people, but who can go, but i like to check. yes , you can check to be sure. so do you agree with polina that the word truth means a statement that corresponds to objective reality let it be yes, in general, let it be yes, how do you find out what people feel or by comparing what they tell you, basically feel yes. well, let me tell you a phrase now. and you will tell the truth. i tell you or not. well, i'll try, i'm a twelve-year-old girl. you felt it. there is no truth, which can be felt objectively. this is what she

is, and according to feelings, these are your feelings, they may correspond to reality. we until you check your data that appeared. do you know if this is true or not? so, while you are reading your fantasies, right? and try to rely on them as the truth. yes you will conflict with this world? take your fantasies, i must be respected, for example, a saleswoman in a store is obliged to treat me. so-and-so then go and check, and if she treats you differently in fact, then your fantasy is erroneous, you fantasized something for yourself. here is on this fantasy are trying to lean. now, if i imagine myself here a very beautiful table and try to lean on it, what will happen to me, and it will hurt me. here i understand you. it just started from afar. allah if you now justify the aggression

that you can afford. well, if we justify by the word we mean, i'm telling the truth, then, yes, i understand aggressively. and it's true, and it's normal aggression norm, of course, set the quest. but this is not true, do we put it well in a different way? michael well, look, you can say, probably now what? well, there are a lot of circumstances that we switched to communications in social networks, where there is a lot of anonymous we, but in general we somehow expanded it. uh, the limits of what is acceptable. we see that aggression in society is starting to grow. and then the aggression begins to grow. it is clear why both impunity and anonymity, as you said, therefore, what was not permissible becomes the launch of social networks, and in real life you can get an eye for aggression and let's, well, hypothetically assume that polina got in the eye, yes ?

well, as it has not worked out so far, reflex cannot be done like this, because you know such a burn and reflex yes, here i was burned, nothing is scary. already think, maybe, after all , people who feel such poorly controlled debut and aggression, maybe still go to the doctor, because the truth will end, maybe not very well. yes? well , except for the fact that you ruin relationships with people. you can really get a pretty tough response from the same person who has even worse control over emotions than there is such a story. yes but still, i would advise you to apply, if for help to specialists, then, conditionally, according to the increase in the severity of the impact. yes, it's better to see a psychiatrist first. we went right away and the psychiatrist immediately prescribed pills. here is the degree of impact. yes, but if

you went to a cognitive psychologist, for example, and he would help you with yours, but these beliefs that you must be respected, that if you are not respected, then it's bad that you must match your fantasies array. reacts to what here are all the situations that polina told us, yes, you do not respect me. yes, you don’t take me here for an important unit of society, it doesn’t matter. it’s cold on the pier or in the hostel. do you think that someone who does not have it constantly requires respect. uh huh, the tattoo feels hurt, it sort of collects permanent signs of respect. and even more he tries to find signs of disrespect. that's why my philosophy about this, with which i came here initially to love myself and stop. it's like, well, you sent people to collect. what is self love? i respect myself