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tv   Muzhskoe Zhenskoe  1TV  January 27, 2023 4:00pm-4:51pm MSK

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and anyway, well, it’s important here that no matter how the wife swears, in fact, she still respects you internally, as a man your wife said that she was proud of you. so directly she, in my opinion, did not tell me this. here are the programs will definitely have an impact. and long enough and you know you might not see at all, it hurts a lot. your child was taken away from you 2 years ago. i feel his soul. this is my child, but biologically no, why are you? oh what about dogs? yes? i forgot what a bed is in russian, they say, alimony you have been assigned. what kind of debt you have i know that it's a big time. what kind of
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child did you two burn and katya needed to write an application to restore parental rights with us. let's call natalya, who became the adoptive parents of roma good afternoon. you know, sometimes our programs remind me of pinocchio's fairy tale. do you remember the story of the painted hearth? everyone was sure that this is a beautiful picture; the real picture is the hearth. what ended bent finger? and
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ekaterina chelakhova, for two years now they have been fighting with guardianship authorities in the hope of returning their beloved son roma i don’t think it’s long enough and you know that you might not see it at all, it’s very painful the officials thought that the conditions in their apartment were life-threatening something eternal mess that is here unsanitary conditions, no matter how much we did not try to lead us here in each of the parishes. i didn't like them. for some reason, they found, in principle, why the couple had long become star tv and, together, followed the fate of little roma, the luga region. however, neighbors
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they believe that these tears are a virtuoso game that is not published, and the guardianship authorities are generally sure that parents are only interested in money. it does not work. there is not enough money, there will be a child in the family. you understand that they are not well provided for there, which means that some payments are due and there is no need to pay elements. that is, you will not be deducted from your pension or alimony salary, the total debt, together with her husband , is, in my opinion, 1,200 or one million three hundred in seven years , 3,000 were received on their account of two children today in the men's studio female. we are trying to figure out whether the parents really want to return
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the child or they need a minute of fame to close millions of debts and whether it is true that their son himself asked to find a foster family for himself. today in our studio, ismail babaev, he turned to our program for help . ismail hello, my child fell ill with katya and me. please help me return him, because otherwise i can’t imagine the meaning of life for myself in the future. here you will walk for the sake of money. what money is there? wait, your child was taken away 2 years ago along with your spouse on you. well, it's not official. and why because they are not citizenship, respectively, they can not fucking official. yes you are inscribed to sit revival well how to say in relation? yes, i feel it in my soul, so biologically not.
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wait, you installed it, or something, and what happened 2 years ago two years ago, they came out before that. uh, guardianship authorities were constantly clinging to all the little things to us. well, the fact that we can’t thread every one there turned out to be some threads that don’t take away the child. here you go, you know, like an attitude. but this is your own apartment, yes, in the state in which it was primary, because then when the child was taken away from you, yes, how can you see a cobweb here? you said that what we see now on the screen is prejudiced against you, that we will now have certain attitudes of a penny, that they have been going to you for too long, but this is from the first and they felt sorry for you. wait, it was because of this apartment, which was in such a state at that time, that the child was taken away. yes? so where but here the prejudiced attitude of your spouse works no, she is without a civil. there
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can be no change here. you have 2 years. there is no child. you still have not done, neither citizenship, nor got a job, have not done anything, because citizenship is impossible to do we applied. and what do you live on? explain, we are not talking now, but for my disability pension and this and that from him, well , your big pension is 12,500 - elements. and you with this pension fingers alimony, that is, wait, so they just took it away. wait, there was a trial. yes, it was true, the court restricted your rights, killed the station of the courts, refused the decision. and why at that moment i also worked because they helped to make repairs to people, your wife has been living without a child for 2 years, does not work, does nothing, that we should now discuss here what
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i just want people understood that i didn’t just come to show off , let's say yes, and to say that i love it. let's be adults. let's just listen. come on, so we are adults, so here you are on uh, kaluga television to the regional one, and as i understand it, there is more than one program with your participation. and a few, probably, oh so you are stars, it turns out. so you came to the program there after that, who helped you in what way. uh, marina glushenko is a journalist for this channel. in general, everything around you and people and all your capabilities, so that you throw it to your face, to help us with the repair of everything, so it helped you. yes why the child is the lord well , because we already thought, well, what now, away to remove the restriction, they will come again and find it.
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why is it written to me in the court decision, when you limited what you have to do in order for the child to be with you at work, it helped me become. i work at the moment when they wanted to solve me slightly. well, please, it turns out that i had a birthday at work and, well , we sat a little, because the boss picked up and came in at that moment and says that you can make a statement. let's say the child comes back to you. how are you going to live together on twelve thousand rubles, i will try to get a job i’ve set it all up, it’s absolutely in ours in ours how to say, you said that you have a disability, if not a secret, then why the accident yes, well, with seizures in childhood, there was a seizure. and now, thank god, thank god, in general, now it’s how long
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you haven’t been drinking, and before that, you reminded your child to drink , they took it from you 2 years ago, which means it’s still certain, and there were complaints about this with your diagnoses, and also drink. well, because in life everything is so smoothly good. how do you live now, how do you live without a child? and where are you waiting for it? return, okay? in their opinion, something is an eternal mess, that there are unsanitary conditions, no matter how much we tried to lead us here for everyone. if we come,
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they didn't like something, they found something to cling to. why, when we were all together , was ever still at home, we tried to do for him. here are romki on e, here are the wives, sleeping places. i always had a cot standing here, uh, romka's workplace, computer desk. didn't live rich there. well, you always understand how you would improve, no matter how it was, why, as if there were fewer reasons, why will have during checks changed? well, for a few on credit, uh, recently, only for him . people were able to make repairs in the kitchen and helped with the construction. how did they help us to renovate the bathroom to change? uh, plumbing, i want
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to make some repairs here, uh, they will glue it there. due to financial reasons, it is impossible to do everything as quickly as we would like. the most beloved child roma also loves us very much wants to go home, he misses writing and writing letters. here is one of the last missions. i miss you very much. please pick me up home. they beat me here. i feel very bad here. here is our drawing mom dad himself. if you cut off a limb of a person painfully, if someone else i don’t think, it doesn’t get enough for a long time, and you know that you may not see it at all, then we will never forget these very sick people. we always remember that you love us very much, it depends that
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you really have ill-wishers, as you said, the whole world is opposed to you, one of them anna sergeeva decided to come to us. let's call her. hello hello well boy that came son. you are, well, you have to try. what to do before , you can return roma to them in no case, why? because he takes 5,000 on his pension himself? yes, where did she say it herself, you can say everything you want a child, he is ill-treated. this is not his boy roma and why didn't she start living with the father of the child with the father of the child, the father has six children in tajikistan and it's understandable. he stayed and left. uh huh
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he ate food. i promise her until the morning. if you now go out to the kursk railway station together, you can earn a lot of money three chords new season from january 29 on the first how long have you known katya? i know katya 15 years ago we met. you know, how i came to unload at a brick factory to work and katya was a thin little girl there, but i didn’t know then that she didn’t have one. this is a passport, not a russian one. she got a cash job and she took cash every day money. she had girlfriends there in general, two custom-made and succumbed. so, she was deprived of her first two children. wait, she has more children. children. there are two. wow, where are those
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kids? now these are adopted by a girl? surely alimony alimony is assigned, she does not pay does not pay us and the smiley just said that you can’t find a job. it's true. first by me, i don’t bring anyone , i don’t bring him home, i drive, why does she bring? we tell him well, of course, yes yeah , and you are absolutely wonderful oh, bullshit honestly, a natural family, two husbands i'm the only one who doesn't work. come on, we won’t envy behind our backs, we’ll call katerina and we’ll envy the captives. katya come to us, please stop.
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stop it, are you pregnant? may the lord be with you. yes, i forgot what a bed is in russian, your first husband boasts to everyone that when he comes to your house. you send your current roommates. anderson can't be heard yet. so i ask everyone to be quiet now. answer me katerinka, please, for which they took roma why sawdust of organs sawdust for antistress darius and that's it, yes,
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when the child was taken away, how old was he? nine he read and wrote at the age of 9 to read he began to write he was not even 7 years old. now i'm reading what you said to our editor before the program can be read. roma had speech problems. all in the seventeenth year , they wrote an application for the guardianship of the ministry of education due to the fact that roma did not go to school. a light pipe for a year from the school, for which reason they only told me to go to a speech therapist and they didn’t have it in our area and you didn’t go, but if it’s not in the area, where is it to take from you, and there was a child with problems , they voiced this to you, the doctors said how to fix this problem. and you said there is no speech therapist in the district, we will not go anywhere. we drove right. i'm not asking you. we went as lunch in the center was at one time a speech therapist to him and roma went. how did it happen that you
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live in the russian federation without citizenship. without documents. without papers. i wanted to die on alex's gun, the brick pledge of our district to the mill, and mom wanted to die at home. she just died here. so, you, i didn't think that i would stay. here when you got here. 16 18 and 18 years old without documents, they found any reason to do documents, then the letter is not written to me, please, someone explained to you in an sms why do you still live on the territory of the russian federation and they were deported without the right to enter here at the expense of the child. that is , you need a child so that we can talk about deeds here, where your older children are.
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passenger rusachenko natalya nikolaevna, how old were your children when you were taken away? i was also unsanitary at home, well, then they betrayed that i allegedly drank, allegedly, i would have chewed, allegedly. i didn't live at home like that. there were reasons then to take away from you for them, maybe, and even for you for me not, the alimony you were assigned was theirs. what debt do you currently have? i don't know what's big. as i know. you have more than 600.000 rubles. the alimony debt gave me suspended sentences for alimony. she took revenge on me for those children. i planted my husband. there was a case where my husband hit me with a bruise. where will you stroke? it's not a bruise. it's not a bruise.
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it's like my kidneys from my kidneys, my eyes are like that. and what kind of relationship do you have with natalia prostochenko, who are literally no guardian of your children? i can just call her and ask why i don't call to reach the children. she tells me that you communicate with children with girls, in particular, i communicate, but i don’t communicate with my son and son, because prostochenko does not give me a phone number. let's so we talked with the guardian of your older children with natalia pusachenko. let's see what she told us. we adopted two children in 2014, at that time, nadia was 12 years old, and ilya was 11 years old gradually. nadia began, uh, it happened very often to tell us. so nadezhda visited with her mother. here are those houses, those apartments where there was booze. mom was right there. uh, in
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the presence of several men, it was very unpleasant for her to talk about it, what was happening there. she has. this caused rejection very often, the father raised his hand to the mother, the father was quite cruel towards them, especially her, when they first settled with us. and before that , how long they were coming to the shelter, she didn’t never visited, and didn't even wonder if they were sent to tom or anywhere at first the castles were probably quite frequent, when her mother called, she answered the phone, but she spoke very reservedly and even then she began to get nervous, and she hung up. she did not want to talk to her as soon as there was a question of alimony. eh, in principle once i only heard such a phrase. apparently it was
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her cohabitant, that we do not want these elements to be given to us by foster parents. that's seven years at the expense of two three thousand children were received, her personal debt is 500 with a little more than a thousand rubles , and in aggregate the debt together with her husband is there, in my opinion, one million two hundred or one million thirty people helped her a lot and everyone helped, but she herself does not move. she herself does not want to do anything, if she herself gave hope to this mother herself, that she had drawn some conclusions throughout. here, well, at least one, but bring up, so give warmth to this child. well, then, the indifference that i saw, where in the children and they think that something will change about this woman in the third row. by the way, we got in touch with your eldest daughter, with whom, according to you. you
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communicate. she said to see do not want to hear. do not want to talk. we don't want anything about her. the limit of my patience is already over, and i will do everything, absolutely everything, so that you find yourself in your homeland for a very short time , so you will go on tv. there you will beg for money from people, if i'm wrong, neighbors, really, let's look at them. but not in the family, not in this family, so to speak
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i climbed into the trash can and collected food from the trash can, didn’t bring it into the house, what’s normal? this is a vital child. sorry, nafig was not needed, he was left to himself. for example, i came here 8 years ago. he is as we arrived. so i saw it all and i see it, get drunk. senko probably, in winter you don’t see them, no matter how, i don’t have time, they fight and swear. yes, there are some rivers on the street in the child’s apartment along the street all the time all the time in the morning, so that he is already on the street at 10 o’clock in one, only he gets home dirty, and the children are bad. naturally. well here again, he needed not to do it. no one ever went to school with him, and nothing is needed there. items were not purchased.
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he gave it away, if she has generally maternal feelings, it’s unlikely no, if all the children are in the orphanage, what are we doing here, there can be sharp feelings, if the child didn’t go on a dirty diet, what maternal feelings can be here if time will be there the wife herself goes for a chukhan, she is dirty, like i don’t know who drinks some kind of motherboards. you understand that it is very difficult for you to live in an atmosphere of persecution from outside envious, of course, very hard. this is absolutely obvious, but there is a person who has been helping you for a very long time. if the repair, there and tried, even the documents you do. this is a journalist of regional television, which is filming a whole series of programs about you, and marina glushenkova. let's call her to the studio and find out how she treats you now, but my efforts. unfortunately, they did not lead to anything, i unfortunately. so how did you
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get to know these people ismail called us on the body of the radio company, he called the production department and then called about katya's passport, and i went there to shoot , we filmed a story about this family. i had a lot of faith in this family back then. why because ismail made a very positive impression on all of us. that is, he was like that, you know, like don quixote. he really wanted to save katya, and you know, i myself am always for humane attitudes towards people. and i knew that katya has two children, and in respect of which she is deprived of parental rights. i knew that she had not the most prosperous past there. hmm, and before they to help. i very actively interviewed the neighbors, and the teacher in the kindergarten, the envious teacher in the kindergarten, with whom roma studied, do they drink, do they come for a child in estonia, were there any characteristics? i’m not saying
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that they are alcoholics, i thought that maybe if we help them a little, they will somehow believe in people. here is the personality. katya was installed thanks to our work. i myself have seven children and i know what it's like to be in a not very good and financial situation, but money for repairs. i collected through their pages in social networks. that is, people also believed and decided that they needed help. yeah, i found the brigade myself. i found e charitable foundations that donated certain materials for the repair. and i guess i thought something was wrong here. when the first brigade arrived, which was supposed to make repairs, they went into the apartment and told marina it was impossible to go there. there is such a smell from cats that it hurts in the eyes, it seems at that moment she was in the hospital with a broken leg, repair, after all
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true, a brigade took place, i had to find another, because that first one refused to take up the job. we found other people who did all this work, but there was such a story about the rehabilitation center. it seemed to me that it was wrong that katya would be during the repair of the house, that is, they would blow up all the tiles here. uh, in the kitchen they will fix the floor, which was broken, and i arranged for katya to be placed in a rehabilitation center, but katerina flatly refused to go. i remember, that made me very angry. if anything, i say injections. i have at any time. i can change at night to understand, he will give me an injection. he will give, this is nonsense. we don't do it then. oh, i know, i'm like in these centers, like in hospitals they treat. and no matter how it was at least once, yes, i had to go to the hospital at that
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moment to lie down for a month when i was being followed. excuse me, even ordinary nurses could not bear this duck like a duck. here are the people who are not with me. i don't want a queen. and what is mail fired from a job? behind good people, because he did good to people, and people thanked him, as far as i know, for deciding to celebrate his birthday with alcohol. yes, you did it all for them in the centers , you wanted to put it in and make repairs with all the funds, agreed when the moment of disappointment came, which was the last straw after the trials for roma took place and they were not deprived of parental rights after ismail's hell and katya needed to write a statement. restore us in parental rights. are you ready to do no the fact is that a psychologist worked with roma , talked with him and conducted tests
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that were based on the results of these tests. and everyone was talking about what really happened. and roma needs parents; all his associations were with his parents, because and those letters that he sent to his parents, they all, of course, were such that mom, dad, look, i learned this. i went there. i was there, that is, he boasted of all his, and the achievements in this center with his parents, that is, accordingly, the opinion the child was important at the trial. and they, instead of going to write a statement after the trial, ask us to restore our rights, do nothing. quite right. they said that because of the pandemic , i would not accept anything anywhere. all clear. let's do it, we'll listen to ekaterina kubryakova now. this is the director of the center for promoting family education on the shores that the boy has spoken of. the boy lived for 2 years. let's listen to it all now. in
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1919, on september 30 , a little boy named roman entered our center. the child lagged behind his development, a very serious and physiological development, that is, the child weighed very little, practically did not speak. he had global speech disorders for catherine and her husband. ishmael was given time to realize what happened the whole situation and naturally change his attitude and to raising a child to his way of life, that is, to do everything in order to correct this situation after all, when the child came to us in him naturally the question was asked. do you want to go to a foster family? and of course we received an answer that no, i do not want these foster families, because and we are waiting for when dad and mom will restore parental rights to communicate with the child. naturally, no one limited, that is, parents could
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always call the child and communicate with him. and every time, of course, they promised, but the child also understands that time is running out. but , unfortunately, the child does not change anything, when he waited, the first month, the second he waited a year, he waited a year and a half, unfortunately, there was no recovery at one fine moment. apparently it's just uh, maybe not veres to his parents roman came and said, i want u to the family. find me another after the first guest mode. i confess they were surprised, but after the very first guest mode, the boy called the woman who took her on a visit mother, and he still calls her foster mother already, despite the fact that he was just recently before, he already calls her mother. he hasn't seen you all this time. he wrote to you, he remembered, he had the image of parents who did not appear, because
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everyone around is evil and everyone is to blame. let's let's invite natalia and dmitry, who became roma's adoptive parents, to this studio. hello hello a child having lived for 2 years tired of waiting for you asked to find his foster parents. and you knew very well about it, and he told you that he was going to the family, and moreover, he said that my mother was very glad that they found a family for me, like roma now. well, roma, well, as you now understand that the child has a difficult fate, he still stayed in the orphanage for 2 years, they offended him there. he immediately began to complain to us that i was sorry to meet him. what impression does he have on you produced? understand met? well, when we thought about taking another child, we have four adopted children. that's when we realized that we can still give the child warmth at home, uh, we turned to the guardianship authority. we were given a conclusion with all the documents, then they called the ministry and they offered us that there is roma, they came to the orphanage, they brought roma to us , and, uh, they said that when roma was told
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that his parents would come. he immediately said, i 'll go to my parents, rot can't see us yet , uh, they suggested a multi-head regime. he says, i'm not on the guest, i'll go to always, that is , the child was ready to go to you from the first day. don't even know. yes, i do not know us, he was ready. hey man, where are you? kirill frolov and just calmly, yes , kirill
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the opponent to the cartridge. tomorrow on the first, wait for them until they pick it up. my wife suggested here, well, she showed me , she says, i've watched many here in our code kondor orphanage. there is such a boy, roman, that's where we had our november children's holidays. so we invited him to come visit us, as just arrived. the first week we had it immediately lasted for the family, he really liked it and back here after the weekend after the holidays. he went back to the orphanage with tears, we made good contact right away. naturally. well, we have not
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grown, but the soul has not left. yes, you see, he was always here, he brought some kind of life into our family. well, in general guys. i would not wish any child to return to such conditions of life. here, uh with such an attitude towards a child, how will he live here? this, of course, is necessary. well, at least in a year to come to see how and what, and now here's what he will live in, let's say so, please, we are ready to show you, i invite you to the room in which he lives. we have three of our children. uh. here, including roman is here. uh, maksimov's place is nikita's place . and that means the sleeping place of the novel. i
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have never been a floor spa. this is more of a place where she does her homework. i go to a new school and they don't have them. finally, i draw. this is the house of the soul , this kitchen, let's say. so roma well, you can say he doesn’t get out, because he is very likes to eat, because it can be seen from him. well, in childhood there was a lack of nutrition. he eats absolutely everything, that is, he does not have any addictions. he, well, everything, loves meat and fish and pies. here we have cheese getting out of the fridge all the time today. here i baked pies with cottage cheese. well, romka also loves them very much. well, here, come to us in six months a year. i hope that we will fatten roma like daddy. do you think you
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have a chance to take ismail and ekaterina, roma, you know, there are always chances. well , do you think they will use them? i think that no. why, well, time goes by and not only those 2 years that the child is in a state institution. prior to that, they were represented as long as they were not limited in their rights, they were given a lot of time to improve, and they do this, of course, the guardians fiddled with them for 4 years. we visited this nice establishment. let's hear what they told us. i, as a person, as a mother, believe that there is no desire to return the child by proxy, yes , by proxy, so that this is it. i don't know why they do it this way. why do they come from the fact that someone should come to help them, he, we are all different people, give up, yes, that's all. parents beat all the bells and try, and even in court there are such things
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, we reach that they do not deprive or restrict, because they have taken all measures, that is, parents take themselves in hand. here we want to pick up the child, but we don’t want to do anything and they smoke and this is dirt. this is their way of life. they live like this. i scold her. i explain to her that i need to get out, i need to put everything in order. and this is the way of life of people. here they also live. they live in their own world for them is the norm. why do they need child benefits to receive benefits. you understand it doesn't work. there is not enough money, there will be a child in the family. you understand that they are not well provided for there, which means that some payments or elements of payment are required. you don't need it first. that is , they will no longer be withheld, neither pensions, nor salaries , they have a chance that they will be able to pick up this child. everyone always has just where and whether they can support the child now at the level at which he was pulled out on television. if you ride than return
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the child likes them, they invite them to come. they performed there. when people have even the slightest desire, it can be traced. i am now appealing to the guardianship authorities to the prosecutor's office, as a legal representative. uh roma don't have to wait for tv. write, do not wait for television, lose it. today , parental rights, all the reasons you have for this, i think that any judge will decide this case in a second. here you have a wonderful paper, where your identity is established and in any migration service under a simplified procedure, as the mother of a russian child, bypassing a temporary residence permit. you would first apply for a residence permit, and then you would apply for russian citizenship. and there is such a concept in psychology - this is the locus of control.
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it can be internal and external, this is what or to whom we attribute responsibility for what happens in our lives in order for you to become good enough parents , you need this locus of control to be internal and that you would be responsible for your life for the absence documents for the inability to write, zaya. singing for what someone does not accept these documents from you, you attributed to yourself, and not neighbors, ill-wishers, good courts, no guardianship, but you understand yourself, because after the program you leave you will say, of course, what kind of experts and bad presenters are there, how else are they and crushed, but you think just for a second. try to think, if everyone around says so, well, maybe there is pity and compassion in this share of truth in this studio, children always receive from us, who definitely do not deserve it. that's what they give them. these are the parents. excuse me but i am an adult, i have the right to choose.

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