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hi this is a free program podcast. i am maxim tankov and my today's interlocutor is the beautiful anzhelika krylova hi anzhelika, you have practically lived in the usa for 25 years and why did you return to russia? well, in general, how would i spend my youth here for 21 years. i

left it like it was completely different. i was in the role of an athlete when we left and i became interested in how it works here as a coach, and i came and tried and learned a lot. it's a huge experience. for me, i don’t know, but everything seems to be different here. well, the system itself and the preparation, how i cook, the way i prepared the americans. this is how i cook russians. well, maybe a little harder, because they are so used to it. they are brought up in such a way, they have been trained by coaches since childhood in such a system. a slightly raised tone, a little more rigidity, parents demand the same , so they need it, because when i arrived, i kind of started there for the first year to train couples according to that system and how no matter what, i think it didn't work.

i had to settle here, but they did not relax. they did not perceive it, because here it comes, as it were, more from the coach. this is the message that goes there more than this athletes. and why yes, because they pay every hour they work. yes, there is a very high price of insane juice, which is why there are probably not many athletes who are not many parents who can bring this professional voice. at least approximately how much it costs, well, plus or minus there in depending on the coach. i know, but how much does it cost, for example, an hour, or how much does an hour cost, so that our parents don't hear about the cost? eh, well, from 100 dollars there to 160-180. so you still need to take the hall, you still need to take the choreography, you still need to take the acrobats. it's not just ice, it's all,

when did you come back or not? yes, of course, of course, yes, but i kind of thought i was just interested. i myself am such a risky person and and for me it is important to do something for myself, how to extract some experience from this something new. uh. did you know where you are going? i mean, what will the skating rink school be like. it was necessary to start all over again to open your own club. or how it all works now. no, well, it’s clear that i didn’t come anywhere. there was an ice club, everyone was interested, i had a very large influx of children. even many coaches, probably offended that they came to me, but here i didn’t call anyone like that, i didn’t call anyone, i didn’t invite anyone. they were interested in how it works. for some it worked. for it didn't work for someone. you said that the coach of this universal profession leads

everything from raising children to i don’t know any professional moments. i uh, in principle, i educate them from the beginning so that they are people, this is the first dinner already. yes of course, i nurture in them. well, i don't know the spirit of the sport, i don't know from experience. how should you train, how should you approach training, how, uh, should you perform? how to prepare yourself? as if in one or another situation, but how to show yourself how to speak in an interview? what should you wear? how to look there are a lot of nuances that i have to tell them. parents are normal. parents are only glad that it seems to me that they have such a person when you educate

one thing in an athlete, and at home parents educate another and parents together. naturally. this communication with parents is endless, especially when little couples are some kind of younger ones. and the role of parents in figure skating is, in general, colossal. and how without it everything starts with the parents? just when there are two more parents in a couple, when a single parent has one parent the coach is coming, and here it turns out and ra- parents are a couple. and the coach here turns out to be a lot of two parents were sometimes parents do not help. they interfere, and i have to call my parents to communicate with them. everything is set up in the right way. and i don’t want the couple to break up, because the couple looks good, and the parents contribute to conflicts in the couple. i don’t need it, as it were, but how can parents interfere. they can interfere with the fact that for each parent there is a child. he's better and they see the best of them

time yes, i don't know what to do. and why is the partner there or the partner not good enough to do it. and why there, for example, an error can occur there at the competition. vaniyah there or somewhere for a year, accusations begin, then they come. oh, girl, i made a mistake, maybe we should change our partner, we didn't have to change her and that's what happens. i kind of just work with the younger group. she is very heavy. you just need to interact with your parents a lot, the rest of the group is already easier, as if it were smaller. conversations and less pressure from their parents, they seem to trust the coach more. i'm interested to know where this line is, how much the athletes can get closer to the coach. well, in general, i am a very caring person, as if initially without even talking about coaching. well, it's simple, maybe sometimes too much, but they are still small and young and how i feel that i should

take care of them. and yes, but sometimes, maybe you don’t want to go too far. i would like to give them freedom too so that they learn how to act in this or that situation, how to resolve some topic, which, in which they made a mistake, how do people come to dance. how are dance duets created, how does it all happen? well, now the station is very young, as it were, when i skated, the dancing began. so i myself, probably, came about 13 years old. so, 14, well, then it was necessary, as it were, in a solitary then they didn’t even take it. it seems to me that there was no first category, there were candidate masters of sports and masters of sports. well, there's more. now the dancing is already beginning, it can begin in ten years out of nine. i've got a couple riding around like small ones. well, this is very interesting to me. in general, i would like to create such a dance school , many people ask a lot about a children's school.

it seems to me the conditions, only the conditions i will remind you that in today's my interlocutor. this is the beautiful anzhelika krylova, two-time olympic silver world champion and successful. now an ice dance coach. how, by the way, the stars with star disease, gogun's heads , are so bad now, i want to. directly in the fan chat to write that finish, i want to close it all. yes, i follow guys, because i met. even earlier than you thanks to ice age kids. so i immediately saw her talent there and everything else, but here i am it seems to me that they pay too much attention to just these prayer speeches, because at such a young age. it must be dangerous to deal with it. well, how to fight hard we are burning. well , it's good that they listen, and as if sometimes it's just very hard. well, in general, they have such

a fate not very successful, because when they practically became number one in juniors in world and could win several world championships, but a pandemic happened, then with the situation in the world, and they have been in this state for almost 3 years, it turns out, how does this affect two? yes, motivation is affected by how they find the strength or, in general, how do you find the strength in them to breathe this desire to work. no. well, we just love what we do. this is probably the first thing that love and , as it were, dedication to our work, in spite of everything, of course, we believe that this day will come when we can perform in the international arena. i don’t know how it would be interesting for them to develop them to develop interesting searches just like me, probably, in this we found a common core of our team. and it works for them. i hope this

will continue. we are in dancing on ice. i mean, russian athletes always. well , they were in the lead ahead of the rest, that is, two pairs at the distance of the olympic games. what happened why in dancing on ice? are we that far behind now? that is, with the departure of sitting on the katselapovannye, we are not far behind. just us we don't play on the international stage right now. it's hard to say that we're behind. there were simply no comparisons. we only had bronze in vancouver, then we had bronze with difficulty, obtained there in sochi, and in the eighteenth year there are failures without a medal at all. this witch was such a failure, starting with us, most likely because of an injury. i had to, as it were, leave the sport. although nobody expected this and thought that we

would skate for another 4 years, we had strong hopes that we would win in 2002, of course, this one gave such a failure, because no one else was on an overbuff, and he had to become the first pair and immediately quickly merge into it. in the rules of the general changes in the dance. here is what happened. i don't know why it took so long, but at that time it was 2002. and you had a very dramatic history in nagano at the 1998 olympics history, then a second- place career. here, after many years, somehow now on you look at it, that is, a situation where well, they didn’t give it, you can say there is a win, well, why didn’t they let us have a very fair and equal fight. with oksana grischuk

and evgeny platov naturally it was very difficult to fight with the olympic champions , and of course, they had more experience and more titles and we had no opportunity to win. they have more than one championship, two olympic games, of course, we hoped to work very hard, but that's how fate decreed. well, maybe they kept us so that we would not leave after this olympiad and continued, and from my injury it turned out differently and no one's fate. it's just fate, yes, why is it considered that you won the olympics and that you will leave? that is , you can hold an athlete so that he becomes the second on the next one there is another four years. it's very hard. why is it considered that people really can not. there, becoming four times three times here is about a plus for us. do not

know this athletes depends. maybe he keeps himself in good shape in shape from an athlete from a coach. and from the health of the athlete before of all, because both injuries and psychological ones. it is very difficult and the new young generation is growing up and new favorites during this time , i don’t know how the athlete should feel from the situation that he can withstand another 4 years of such a big stress for a very long time. we had such indisputable leaders in dancing on ice. well in recent years i mean yeah there tess uh with cattle charlie and watched and then get caught and now there's someone and why these couples managed to be like this well practically invincible leader, that is, it would be impossible for them to be generally a unique couple, so i want to say, they started as juniors, and they immediately

started talking about them, but this is their talent. as if the combination of this pair of their relationship to some kind of magical, so to speak, it affects people. not even to mention the technique of performing elements. yes, they were looking for a lot of interesting things. and this is their harmony. she, of course, was very bribed, because no one could fight them. but, and then a get caught zaron. naturally, their jump was generally huge. which nobody did not expect, because the right program is the right image and the program and the choice of style. and that also had a big impact. they chose their own style, which was not like the others, then they all began to imitate them. but it was already boring. just for the audience. i want to clarify that tessa virchu exodus moir is a two-time olympic champion. and from canada yes, and charlie

and meryl. this is meryl davis charlie white , olympic champion from sochi 2014 from america well, of course, designed by the french who trains in canada well, charlie meryl and tessa with scott they were trained by russian russian trainers. this is a laid down school, as it were, both techniques and systems. here we can say that in general all this success of the american north. schools of figure skating, but this is thanks to russian specialists, because when you all went there and started training there, that is, you raised this i mean the third russian you raised this type of usa , this may be the reason for our failure, because you was not. here you were there. eh well, maybe, but at that time there was perestroika damn, there were a lot complexities. and in principle, there were many undersports at that time, so many russian

coaches left, probably almost all of them except for elena anatolyevich chaikovskaya. malinin thursday, axel jumps, but this is also the boy's talent. this is how it is born, probably, not even everyone can want everyone and everyone trains and many train. the same coach, but not everyone can, it depends on the talent, on the character of the child, returning the genome, what the child should have. i don’t know what platform was laid down in childhood in order to become, for example, successful dancer. or with what it is better not to come right away, for example, figure skating, but for me it is very important that the child hears the music, feels the music and can interpret it. but this is probably the first thing, as it were, that i see emotionality in children. well, on the skate

there, around it, you can teach landing some details. and of course, so that the child likes it, so that he has a sporty character, so that he can and wants to overcome himself, because it is very difficult, as it were, for children to train. there is only spend time on the ice, especially in dancing , because dancing is boring with children . initially, you are engaged in the base, and the bases are engaged with the children, no matter how interesting it is for them, it is boring and hard. here someone can also stand it, someone can’t stand it, but there must be a sporty character, what is a sporty character, but a sporty character is that you have to overcome yourself to overcome some difficulties. this is already built into the child from childhood. yes, but he should be. this is interesting. interesting to try, try to make the process interesting they are involved in the process, there choice of music choice. that's what we want to work on today. it's natural

to participate. well, what to work out today support, let's go, only support. they want there, for example, to twist not well, practically from me. it all comes out. they trust me i plan my workouts. sometimes i don’t plan in it , sometimes it happens spontaneously, when i feel it, depending on what state i’m in. they came quickly to practice. it is necessary to slowly train large pieces to roll, but this alone i don’t know as an ordinary viewer to watch dancing on ice. because something else is single, where it's clear upap people fall jumping pairs, skating is also amplitude elements. some extreme. but dancing, how to interest the audience in dancing, what is fascinating about them? well, firstly, dancing, of course, is emotional, this emotionality, but brightness. uh, feelings of partnership. i don’t know,

it’s very difficult to achieve some sort of unity. these are years. these are years of work, of course, coaches very much depend on it to feel to feel exactly what a couple is, maybe it’s better not to drive everything under one. now it’s fashionable, as it were , slow themes or such a style is fashionable, but to understand, what is the personality of this or that couple? the tone of your main couple vasilisa and valera, they are just very different, they are very different in themselves. he is more explosive, he is such a hurry. he hurries ahead of the locomotive she they kind of can’t say who their leader is they are good, each on their own i am working on the most now. these are all the years since i put them in need of them

unity, to connect them, because this one is the most difficult for me to connect them, so that they feel each other and can communicate normally, and because there are a lot of all sorts of nuances in the training process, when there is some kind of jealousy there between each other, yes. i think there is jealousy. so i'm trying to jinx it, they are very, very. well, that is , there is no such thing that we lost because of you. you fell there, they are very supportive of each other. and this is good. open your eyes every morning there is so much going on around me that i don't understand. he does not know in what world he will wake up. you see, it means that today i am cyril

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today we are talking about figure skating with anzhelika wing, two-time world champion , olympic medalist and coach of the russian national team in ice dancing. olympic motto. yes, there faster higher stronger figure skating well pulled. it seems to me that they relate a little, then why does angelica have a stopwatch in her hands, then two. well, now, according to the rules, how would we have such support, which should be a certain time earlier they were six seconds. now they asked jesus to do 7 seconds, because there is not enough time. there need to be complex entries, a lot of simple nuances that the audience does not know and how, but all this beauty and smoothness, ease of execution is not so simple, so to speak, she competes, how can this help, goodbye, figure skating, and

it . now the lobby is very strong. yes , this is all american, how to deal with it, especially since now we are generally missing the otuchins there. and when we return, what will be, to unfortunately. yes, there won’t be anything special, i hope that they are waiting for us they will be interested in competing with us in nothing collected, in principle, in one group, and students and countries and a lot of politics, because the judges sit from all countries, and these countries ride it is clear that gives priority. well, there's just a lot of politics. we have a subjective sport in dancing since. this is the other side of the coin about this. we will never eat strategy. how to overcome it? how to deal with it just ride. fine, first of all, do something of your own, try not

to copy. but, in another sense, go in the spirit with the time with the choice of music with styles to understand what you like, what you don’t like, because they are watching us, as if they were watching the russian championships. they are watching our dances. how would they also send me a lot of all sorts of comments there recovery, that they like what i do. it pleases me there is no such thing that oh, we will not watch you, because this is in russia no, they support me and i like the couples that work for me what i do. well i don't know it will it's very hard in the beginning it will be very hard because you missed some time there because of the politics because of everything. i hope that they, ah, loyal and professional, will react to this and will look not from the outside, as it were, but from politicians, but from the side of athletes and from the side of what needs to be judged, well, now

it's hard to say about this i do i do it’s just that i like what i think i need to do and move forward, and it’s their job to follow me and i am very grateful to this couple, namely valera and vasilisa, that they follow what i and i say they believe the ideas that i sort of voice to them. i tell them what to do, so it's not always like that. some couples resist. they think we can't do it. well, you understand them. i see it in advance. do we have small children at all or are there new yorkers? i mean, of course, dancing on ice, our reserve can be some kind of gold and there is such a very good one, in general there are a lot in juniors, and a pairs are usually much more than in adults, because moving into an adult. i i don't know, they start to finish somehow. hmm video, very good

athletes. and there is a dozen, junior good. i think it's a potentially good couple that needs to be nurtured. but the main thing is that there are competitions. the main thing is to have some kind of financial support from the federation to keep them in good shape and train them, because there are a lot of athletes now. they do not see the point in this , we begin to roll up, begin to train. they want to train everything, i start already from 16-17 years. continuation then of this topic in this force majeure situation, the federation organized and tournaments and raised. but there is, but there is something else that our federations can improve not only in this situation, but in general, so that our dances develop something else or maybe something was done wrong, maybe something you need to have some situations

that have developed they did the maximum, they just made the maximum effort to make the grand prix, to make good prize money, to organize everything and i don’t even have words, because that was all very fast and spontaneous and uh, here, but for children's sports for children's dances. i think that's what we used to say about the children's school. uh, i kind of see how the process should be. and if they gave me such an opportunity to organize a children's school, i would be happy to do it. you just need to develop children's dances, because in general there is no such thing. there are groups of dancers who come to single skaters, but all different schools don't have such integrity. i am for it. i'm wondering myself out the region comes from the glorious city, perm, where pair skating has been developing very well for many

years, but dancing on ice. this is moscow, moscow region. and, in principle, everything , that is , st. there are so many skating rinks in moscow and you still need to create conditions for one at least to the points where the collected hockey would be, as before, the main problem of figure skating. and very bringing good money, therefore, even removing ice for team hockey players is much easier than collecting in pairs and paying. even if we talk about commercial ice, which cost a lot of money here, it costs even more than in america in moscow

ice, if you shoot thousands per hour up to twenty -five to thirty even. ilda is no longer there, he’s all sold out, you’re even trying to find something there, just for a-a children who are after school, who study at school, and kind of want to come, there from 4:00 to 6:00 or there until 6:00 to 8:00, then there is nowhere else, because there are many commercial schools many commercial schools are very single skaters, but i would like these singles schools to be not just physical education schools, but to bring up children for results, so that something can be done, because parents believe that some kind of commercial schools. there they give, many commercial schools - it's just about nothing that i see, but it's smeared. my wife has a commercial school. it's just a mass sport. but it doesn't have to be combined. well, i think

not. although many who come to the commercial school. the kids just want ride for health. this is fine. i would also bring my children to ride for health, because i do not want my children to be led there. kimi athletes, well , we need to allocate time for sports schools, we need young specialists who want to work, who they need to support by supporting finances. naturally, because the coach works colossal work. you must first have a calling to have a talent to have a desire to do it. well, you just won't do it. how young is now does the coach get paid? what job? at school it's hard for me to say that i'm not very young anymore, i can answer this question, because i graduated not so long ago, the sport went to work. no, maybe not. well, in

fact yes, really a catholic , he started it, damn it, and on the floor there is a dance class, but the mandatory program is modern. naturally. i'm doing this. i invite specialists addicted what kind of rhythmic dance is addicted to? what is the topic, and we were given to ride in rhythm next year and train long-distance. well in general, it's so much easier here. here in moscow, i really like it in supporting opportunities. just invite the sea. you just need to know who you are inviting, who, as it were, is in the subject of the rules. the federation should help, but

the federation does help, it gives money to collections for choreography for production. she gives money for costumes for which thank you very much is a big help, because it's a lot of money worth a lot of money. at what point does the return occur? that is, you invest , you invest, your parents invest, you return, when it’s just aesthetically that the result is extensible, that is, for someone there is a staff without the so-called, but getting your best score is already a result, but for someone only the first place is the result, but all the same places are invested. yes, and that is, it often turns out, it happens that you invested invested invested and many times sometimes you take a couple of programs. you see the potential in a couple. they come to the first competition. of course they don't get what they want, they still don't we will, but the time has already been spent. money

was also spent in staging choreography, choosing music in tailoring costumes, and there are already a lot of them. that's a lot in these 4 years. i would like parents to believe the coaches, so that parents motivate their children and not let them. uh, fall and lose that motivation. that 's it, that's hard for parents to support their children even with some, but there are difficulties with some kind of failure. naturally they will fail. naturally, you can't move forward all the time uh, well, you know, uh, it's very many ice shows. and absolutely various tv-related projects. and this is good, it somehow helps the athletes to reboot. i mean, it helps a lot. and i would like my athletes

to participate, but not to be too much, because it can drag out, and now the coach needs to keep this line where you can ride. and how much can you ride. and where you can’t ride when you have to prepare for competitions and do other preparatory work. it can be very addictive, because this is even what, and my experience riding in shock. it's just the most wonderful experience. you can say after the sport after this dad. you're terrible after pain after injuries. after all this, you get into the show , you like everything, you travel around the world and in general you are in a high. and here it is necessary to go back to training. but in the same sense, it gives you an opening, and you add artistry. you look at other athletes there at the olympic world championship champions, ah, you want to show off in front of them and skate better, you try harder, because the training routines. she,

of course it's hard sometimes. i even want to send it somewhere so that they can be loaded and reloaded. well, let's imagine the situation. athletes come to the coach and say, we were offered to go to the show now. and they offer us five monthly salaries for this and the coach says no, the guys are not the time. we now need to work a little, how is it like convincing an athlete that he does not resist, as i say, they did so, even if, of course, discipline is above just the impression of such a dictator. well i'm not a dictator i'm not a dictator on discipline is the first thing that should be and it should come from the coach. i give them a little slack to come to the warm-up themselves warm up i come to the gym and see that they are lying and just talking and the next

day i have to come on time and so that they are without delay, that’s just the way it comes from the coach. and so everything cools down, and the discipline of the coach. she is the first discipline, probably, so it should be said. she influences. she is very influential as an example. it is very important that you should not be late. you must be in shape. you have to do what you said. you have to plan their preparation, they feel it is very strong in the coach. thank you angelica, we had a wonderful athlete as our guest. in past. now a successful coach anzhelika krylova and mine . we wish her dream to come true and finally a dance school to appear in her.

good night, dear friends, live podcast, creative industry lab. our guest is sergei polunin, who forbids talking about himself in superlatives, a man of genius ballet dancer of the russian ballet. uh, head of the sevastopol opera and ballet theater elena kipr, producers all host of this podcast roman karmanov is wonderful excellent lead media manager and general director of the presidential fund for cultural initiatives. good night. thank you for calling and why, by the way, do you forbid it? talk about yourself like a genius like inside something shrinks and uncomfortable becomes comfortable. completely can be a little further.