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figure skating with anzhelika wing , two-time world champion , olympic medalist and national team coach russia in dance olympic motto. yes there faster higher stronger to figure skating. well, it's drawn. it seems to me, a little, then why should angelica have a stopwatch in her hands, then two. well now, according to the rules, how would we have such supports, which should be a certain time before they were 6 seconds. now they asked jesus to do 7 seconds, because there is not enough time. there you need complex entrances and exits, a lot of simple nuances that the audience does not know, and how, uh, all this beauty and smoothness, ease in execution. it is not so simple, so to speak , whether it was or not, yes, our subjective

sport is figure skating, and there is such a thing in it. now the lobby is very strong. yes, this is american, how to deal with it, especially since now we are generally excommunicated there and let through. and when we return, which will be, unfortunately. yes, there won’t be anything special, i hope that they are waiting for us they will be interested in competing with us for nothing, a huge number of students have gathered, in principle, in one group, and students and countries, and a lot of politics, because judges are sitting from all countries, and these countries are skating, it is clear that it gives priority. well, there's just a lot of politics. we have a subjective sport in dancing since. this is the other side of the coin about this. we will never eat strategy. how to overcome it? how to deal with it just ride. well, first of all, do something of your own and try not to copy it. but, in another sense, to go in the spirit

with the time with the choice of music with styles to understand what you like, what you don’t like, because they are watching us, as it were, they watching the championship of russia they are watching our dances. how would they also send me a lot of all sorts of comments there recovery, that they like what i do. it's nice for me there is no such thing that oh, we won't watch you, because it's in russia no, it doesn't support me and i like the couples that work for me, because i do. well, i don't know , it will be very difficult in the beginning , it will be very difficult because you missed some time there because of politics because of everything. i hope they are ah, loyal and professional to they will react to this and will look not from the outside, as it were, but from politicians, but from the side of athletes and from the side what needs to be judged, well, now it’s hard to say about it, but i do

, i just do what i like what i do i think it is necessary to do and move forward, and their business is to follow me. and i am very grateful to this couple, namely valera and vasilisa, that they follow what i tell them, they believe the ideas that i, as it were, voice to them. i tell them what to do, so it's not always like that. some couples resist. they think we can't do it. well, you understand them. i see it in advance. do we have small children in general or are there juniors? i mean, of course, dancing on ice, our kind of reserve can be some kind of gold and there is a fuck , there are a lot of very good ones in general in juniors, and a pairs are usually much more common than in adults, because moving into an adult. i don't know , they begin to end up somehow disperse. hmm , neners are very good athletes. and there is a ten, a good junior. i think

it's a potentially good couple that needs to be nurtured. but the main thing is to be competitions. the main thing is to have some kind of financial support from the federation to keep them in good shape and train them, because there are a lot of athletes now. they do not see the point in this, we begin to roll up, begin to train. they want to train everything, starting from the age of 16-17. continuation then of this topic in this force majeure situation. well, the federation organized and tournaments and raised. but there is, but there is something else that our federation can improve not only in this situation, but in general, so that our dances develop further something or maybe something was done wrong, maybe something needs to be done, there is some situation that has developed, they did their best, they just made every

effort to make the grand prix, to make good prize money, to organize everything. and i don't even have words, because it was all very fast and spontaneous and, uh, but, for children's sports for children's dances. i think that's what we used to say about the children's school. uh, i kind of see how the process should be. and if i was given the opportunity to organize a children's school, i would love to do this. you just need to develop children's dances, because in general there is no such thing. there are groups of dancers who come to single skaters, but all different schools don't have such integrity. i'm only for this. i'm interested in it myself from the regions from the glorious city, perm, where pair skating has been developing very well for many years, but dancing on ice is moscow, moscow

region. and, in principle, everything, that is, in st. petersburg there, while i know this too, that they have no conditions. if there were conditions, it would be done so that in the regions there are just 50 rollers. i even looked specifically. there are so many skating rinks in moscow and you still need to create conditions for at least one skating rink, where it would be assembled, of course. hockey is still the main problem of figure skating, are they taking the ice or not? well, in general, hockey is a very massive mass theme and it brings a lot of good money. therefore, even removing the ice for team hockey players is much easier. how to collect in pairs and pay. even if talking about commercial ice, which is worth big money. here, it costs even more than ice in america in moscow. if you shoot something even more, yes. that's 13.000 per hour to 25 to

30 even a pancake, as it is. and the ice is already gone, it’s all sold out, you even try to find something there, just for a-a children who are after school, who study at school, and kind of want to come, there from 4:00 to 6:00 or there until 6:00 to 8:00, then there is nowhere else, because many commercial schools many commercial schools are very singles. well, i wish these singles schools weren't just physical education schools, and to bring up children for results, to do something, because parents believe that some kind of commercial schools. they give, many commercial schools - that's just about nothing that i see, but it's masses of commercial school. it's just a mass sport is good, but it should not be combined. well, i think not. although

many who come to the commercial school. it's just that the kids want to ride for health. this is fine. i would also bring my children to ride for health, because i do not want my children to be there. athletes, but it is necessary to allocate temporary sports schools, we need young specialists who want to work, who need to be supported financially, of course, because the work of a coach is colossal. first of all, you must have a calling, have a talent, have a desire to do it, but you just won’t do it. how much does a young coach get paid now? what module? at school it's hard for me to say that i'm not very young anymore, i can answer this question, because i graduated not so long ago, the sport went to work 12,000 rubles. yes no, maybe that, the population. no. well,

actually yes, indeed, the catholics came. yes, i started it 20,000 rubles. dance classes, but the mandatory program includes ice dancing modern modern. naturally. i'm doing this. i invite specialists depending. what rhythmic dance is addicted to? what is the topic, and we were given the next year to ride according to the rhythm and train long-distance calls. but in general, this is so much easier here. here in moscow i really like it. who comes up with the creative support, because in dancing yes it is also very interesting. there are a lot of professional opportunities here. just invite the sea. you just need to know who you are inviting and and who, as it were, in the subject of the rules to pay these specialists. the federation should help, but the federation does help, it gives

money to collections for choreography for production. she gives money for costumes. for which thank you very much this is a great help, because it is a lot of money worth a lot of money. at what point does the return occur? that is, you invest, you invest your parents returns are invested when there is simply a result aesthetically, the result of the concept is loose, that is, for someone there is a so-called bs staff there, but getting your best score is already a result. for some, this is only the first place result, but everyone invests the same. everyone wants it to be in the first place, yes, that is, it often turns out, it happens that you invested , invested, invested, and many times sometimes you take a couple of programs. you see the potential in a couple do not come to the first competition. naturally, they don't work. as they want, they still will not, and the time has already been spent. money was also spent in staging choreography, choosing music

in tailoring costumes, and there are already a lot of them. that's a lot in these 4 years. i would like parents to believe the coaches, so that parents motivate their children and not let them. uh, fall and lose that motivation. that's it, that's hard for parents to support their children even with some, but there are difficulties with some kind of failure. naturally they will fail. naturally, you can't move forward. all the time he knows now a lot of ice shows. er absolutely various tv-related projects it's good. it helps somehow the athletes to reboot. i mean, it helps a lot. and i would like my athletes to participate, but not to be too

much, because it can drag out, and now the coach needs to keep this line where you can ride. and how much can you ride. and where you can’t ride when you have to prepare for competitions and do other preparatory work. it can be very long because it is even that, and my riding experience is shocking. simply the most wonderful experience. so you can say after sports after this dad. you're terrible after pain after injuries. after all this, you get into the show, you like everything and travel the world and in general you are in a cafe. and here it is necessary to go back to training. but in the same sense , it gives you an opening, and you add artistry. you look at other athletes there at the olympic champions of the world champions, and you want to show off in front of them and to skate better you try harder because the routine of training. it is, of course, difficult sometimes. i even want

to send them somewhere so that they can be loaded and reloaded, but let's imagine the situation. athletes come to the coach and say, we were offered to go to the show now. and they offer us five monthly salaries for this and the coach says no, the guys are not the time. we now need to work a little, how is it like convincing an athlete that they do not resist, as i say, they did it, even if you, of course, are discipline exceed everything, well, you do not experience the impression of just such a dictator. well i'm not a dictator i'm not a dictator on discipline - that's the first thing that should be and it should come from the coach. i give them a little slack to come to the warm-up themselves warm up i come to the gym and see that they are lying and just talking and the next day i have to come

on time and so that they are without delay, that’s just the way it comes from the coach. and so everything cools down, and the discipline of the coach. she is the first discipline, probably, so it is necessary say she influences. she is very influential as an example. it is very important that you should not be late. you must be in shape. you have to do what you said. you have to plan their preparation, they feel it is very strong in the coach. thank you angelica , we had a wonderful athlete as our guest. in past. now a successful coach anzhelika krylova and mine. we wish her dream to come true, and she finally has a dance school.

good night, dear friends, live podcast, creative industry lab. our guest sergei polunin, who forbids talking about himself in superlatives, is a brilliant ballet dancer of the russian ballet. e , director of the sevastopol opera and ballet theater elena kipr e, producers all the host of this podcast roman karmanov is wonderful excellent lead media manager and general director of the presidential fund for cultural initiatives. good night. thank you for calling and why, by the way, do you forbid it? speak about yourself when talking inside something shrinks and uncomfortable becomes comfortable. uh, which us can be next will advance a little. isn't it boring

to be a ballet genius in 2023? everything, like everything was invented, like mastered, every person was born. for something i have. it seems to me that such a mission is to slightly evolve the aircraft as a self-industry. i know this, i know how to do it technically, i know artistically. but, but this takes many years to go and a lot of things to do to find associates of people who will help, but in general , the industry from which i wanted to leave for the cinema, but then i realized that i wouldn’t do something, if i leave the ballet, that is, the industry itself. so i realized that you need to think about what is missing. how can it evolve. in sense to combine two arts? yes, it's interesting. i realized that i just wanted to act in films. not as interesting as doing it

along with the dance. yes? you already have it sort of. you are your vocation turns out, ballet times. you can't get out of here already. and this is the art that can be integrated there exactly, because the language of dance is international and i would watch indian cinema. i think that's why, uh, i have so many emotions. why so many positive emotions, then you realize that this is a dance you look at the dance at you, you understand it and the old hollywood it was based on krasno on the musical cinema there was a feeling that you were emigrating towards the musicals. uh, but i'm very happy that i can't sing, because you know, if the people who thought you could put on a musical about me. yeah who made the phantom into the opera the phantom of the opera, well i know i can't sing and it takes you away from another

industry where you can just dive in and spend years there. i i know that in the movies, like, i can't change the industry. that is, i can become a very good actor. perhaps even one of the best, but i won’t change anything there, it’s not my calling, and like brando, why brando the great, he changed the entire industry, how cinema fits, how an actor plays, but in dance, i think i’m all- however, maybe i can do it. that's how i feel, that's why i spend a lot of time it's hard, because the industry is forgotten. it is not developed and they do not want to be in it. go better there composers the best sonographers are the best, because ballet is not a mass art. it didn't become it. maybe again there was a genius grigorovich and the whole epoch

looked at his art and was his art, but there was no contribution to new ribs. either he didn’t allow it, or they didn’t think to create some kind of system in order to give new people the opportunity to at least copy it or try something new, they simply don’t have it, and therefore there was such a genius. how many years he was there for 40-50 years at the head of the best theater in the world in the big one, but this era has passed, and there is no new appeared because of this. hmm, such a large gap and a lack of directors. what can one genius do, but still one person, now, in the perspective of five to ten years , some real plan. i move on my system. i have it is limited and because of

finances because of some kind of support. here i am , and i also create, that is, a request came from somewhere. and, for example, you helped with pfc to give money for the project and margarita now means, the master and margarita project has a desire , people have financial support. let's think what can be done. i mean, i'm very dependent. here is a suggestion, but thank god that there is such a proposal, and we will try to do something new multimedia. it's not exactly theatrical probably will be, because i'm leaving a little bit. that's exactly the kind of art that for subtle connoisseurs such as those who came here you can't cough to sit there, you can see it right there clearly. uh, performance uh, criticize

it, that is, i'm not talking about it. it should be entertaining, but also with a deep idea and with the right emotions. there are singing ballerinas again, i went to them. you can spoilernut i came from the book, but for example, can a ballet dancer display a flight? yeah, but there is no flight in the air, therefore, you need to turn to the finishers who work in the air. that is, naturally, such a circus dance of this art appears, yes, it is an idea, but it is in the air. that is, these are no longer classical dancers. there's a code. he can't look like jesus there. yes , the jesus dance can be ballet . got back from him agreement, in my opinion. so unique

dancer. well, i'm probably not going to divulge his name for now. i don’t know, it’s the most similar to the cat, but he’s right here and when he met him. i'm like this. this cat is not needed anymore. if i understand correctly, then the opportunity to speak. thus, there are a very limited number of them, therefore, each such opportunity should be used in order for it to influence the industry as a whole, such a strategy, that is, master and margarita, will contain something in itself that will affect or should affect at least a little bit it is modern, again , i and i probably can not divulge the music of a brilliant film composer. he has written different music, but i also want to introduce rock-music-music with some modern bank music, and modernize it again . this is because the character talks about it. and if your ballet is called a show, it will be a shame for you. ah. no, on the contrary, i worked with

artists with directors who are more in the theater. i always tell them to get away from this more. here you think about the stadium think about some kind of club story, i don’t know the restaurant story, it finds understanding a little bit, they return to their a-a. but it becomes more bright, something such energy. even now your eyes sparkle with energy. it seems to me that you are restraining yourself, well, the first workshop. i said that i do not want to hold back, at first, like cowardice said. this is the main sin. and secondly, the time comes when you say, i want to do it, how to do it to the maximum, what will happen. we even asked johnny depp, true, he said, no, we even asked johnny depp

was asked if he would participate johnny depp said that he would not risk his projects for 3 years, until, let's say, to russia he loves russia, he performed here more than once with his rock and rock concerts, that is, he is absolutely fine, but he said, that's because of the fact that she now had a court scandal. he will not take risks now for 3 years. apparently he has some major projects, but i do the performance in such a way that some components can be moved, if johnny depp is the end result. when we go on tour wants to participate, it will change a little, the performance is an emotion, but he is calm, sergey can enter there well, from everything you say, it creates a message that you have a plan, there is quite a big ambition, but we understand that we are really conservative a society not very prone to experiments. here. how much time do you give yourself

to try and make these changes and at some point you may, or may never be able to run out of patience. so the departure will take place, i don’t know the words in the cinema, but series, for example, it has already burst. that is, i want to get better looking. that's a year and a half ago or a year ago after mouthing with my ideas to do something new, that is, i was upset, but such was disappointment. the truth was in what or in whom the truth was covid, so, during the covid, i wanted to after we showed roma juliet in the diveron arena for 10,000 people. i said, let's bring this performance to the crimea from desire. i say give me 10,000 dollars. i'll find 300. here. i just needed desire. i say, i'll take you for a ride

from serbia to italy, i will take you to the border of this performance. not only you need to let it go and desire, but you will have an orchestra. and i made a performance without an orchestra on purpose. well , then it's not serious, and after such here's a wall of reluctance. and this is what i want to change in russia, so that people light up from management, leave themselves as a creator, so that they don’t collide, but. these, well, business negotiations that force you to come up with some kind of logistical chains. just left with the creator to instruct - this is the producer who will be with great energy, how to drag steam locomotives, as if hinted at in this studio. there is at least one very good opponent i know for sure. how difficult it is to be both a creator and, uh, a manager, and, uh

, a creator, very often begin to be limited by fears that now this somehow won’t come, or this is how the people will react. and when the creator still unites himself with the manager, then there, the more realities appear, such realities have already been doing this for many 10 years without many difficulties of various passed. and the incredible ones, well , it's like a fire that tempered me. here, if not for me and my team, no one else gives money. in principle, that is, this is also a limiting belief. hmm, you are of great interest, you have a very large resource. so let's say. that's what pleases these people who come to buy tickets at their expense here , really, at their expense, we leave every time. that's because people go. right now there would be two performances in london. if people came to italy, they come to europe

, they come to america, they know, but in russia they love it, as it were. well, my rear, it turns out. i always i'm coming back. e, due to the support of people, just. but we are working to have sponsors, so that we are on the air of channel one. and someone, perhaps, on the other side of the screen listens to us and wonders how sergei polunin. the money of the ballet is not to find money for your own ideas. i have, for example, there are such people in our country, there are many people who do not know where to invest . and, for example, somehow this person comes to you. a complete stranger speaks. i'm ready to go to bed. where do you say? how many 10 years? but no such, well suddenly was not. well, yes, that is, you are ready to let go to your project, that is, to find

such one person is well, this is generally a fairy tale, but it didn’t match, somehow. that's fate. here, through difficulties, everything through difficulties, through there or now, will we do it or go bankrupt? everything here is 50 of some intermediate stage. i’ve been constantly climbing this one since the first project, as i started. and , maybe, uh, let's say, but to pop, that is, uh , to make a certain amount of products that popularize ballet, and which popularize you as a person. that is, you are in a niche. well, until the master and margarita came out, but you know in you how boleron dancers. and here, there may be some kind of product that a is sure to come out to you. i still have such a big minus that for many years? i spent in the west.

here are my political statements, as if they were opinions, they do not allow those artists who would like to work with me in the west to make a project, for example, such as dj nows, they should have serious projects with him or films for spikes. there's a studio general even produced by avatar who is currently producing. he thought he was working with me or producing avatar. that is, serious opportunities there were my conscience here. and the opportunities here are still certain. but now society is changing, which is interesting, i'm sure something will be interesting. but we have some names with whom we would like to realize. i dreamed of working with yura as a barber. this is the producer of the mushroom group. yes , we we all know each other in your place already . eh, yes, this person is not interesting either, that is,

before everything and when he was still in the group of mushrooms. they were too high and far away from us to even talk to him. well, now it seems to me that there will be an opportunity to work with him and make some kind of new product , for example, for generally going into some kind of underground club history, so that even in a nightclub some kind of group or dance. a project to do in fact, if you are open to it, that is, this is something that can move into the commercial field, because everything, uh, is how the investor thinks. what are the returns? how will it be commercialized, how will it be monetized, therefore, as soon as you enter the more popular field where to barbie what actually begins there, another egregor is already different. hmm, you correctly noticed that the industry needs business, in general it suits business,

if the pain does not turn into a business approach, it will disappear, how interesting the industry is. and this is one of those steps too, but it will be after we demonstrate that the ballet is for sale. it is sold, you can recapture the investment in a week. well, let's not lie then. we have a nightly ballet podcast, but it was elitist and was very sexy art people went in order to enjoy there is nothing like that, but uh, beautiful people on the stage are beautiful uh figures and uh, ballet is one of the very strengths in terms of commerce and in terms of what we are not talking about that sells sexuality. the thing is, it's always interesting for people to look at other people who , uh, in a way, transcend their uniqueness and give examples of what

kind of slippery road you're trying to hit us on now, damn, like a road, and i well, again, we we speak openly, uh, and u sergei is. uh, too, success in this big look at you comes to you. eh, the big one is called to you. yes, it is impossible not to love, but the main thing is to get there. not everyone gets into the theatre. i am such a person. so i live remotely in theater thoughts, that is, not about dance , not about ballets, and i don’t think, and i wouldn’t go to ballet. i am not interested. it's there to go. i, in principle, have never been since school, but i must somehow be lured something must happen, and i wonder what it was. that's how mcgregor lured. the people out there in mma in ballet should also be doing this. yes it was was the strongest recognition. uh, ballet genius sergei polunin. now i'm not talking about myself.

in general, i believe that individuals should be helped. uh, in the industry, there must be agents, managers, pr agents. ah, and so on in the industry, there is no such thing at all, that is, it is an industry without the support of these people, that is , is there an industry at all or not? yes, simply missing about it. so they come to the theater there. how many can there be 200 in a large 300 people? and or i, as a military dancer, come to the royal do not give just such a pile of contract. i don't know anything about this is what the contract is i'm such i'll take a look what he so logical took home. she lay down with me and took such a sign that it is written there, i still don’t know. and then they tell me, you will dance, this is one person. it is the director who dictates to you and

dictates the rules to everyone for you, no one does. and the director looks at what the theater needs. and i worked for 5 years, i understand this, yeah, but i don’t have the opportunity to go somewhere there’s no money, but i also don’t have to create, no matter how much they do that, well, maybe one performance, maximum per year, god forbid, i’ll say that here i wonder how i don't see the dancers. i don’t see it on the ads there on the talk show, i ’m so something not like, i didn’t know the answers, but i have these questions, and then nine years. he is an artist. he says, how is it without an agent something like that. why do i need an agent i was told that it is bad to bring agents, that is, seryozha, we will raise your salary not to bring only agents. these people. that's how the grin of capitalism is now, and tell me how it exists, and it doesn't exist there. this is an industry that needs to be created from scratch. i think we need some, but russian david

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creators into our lives, and new professions that will move, who will understand how to work with this question after all, not ranks. well , you can probably enter such professions in the state register. well, that is, in the future, you really are the wildest deficit in having managers , agents, professionals, but how about enlightenment in this area, because if you sign a contract and do not look at what is there, and certainly it is some kind of path, er , a thorny path, where you get bumps, but it gradually creates from you someone who feels already in that status to go. in a completely different way, i just really want to wish you this erection. and you are the new reality in which we now live , it’s wonderful to live in this, as they say, you don’t have to, not me, you know? here if it will