in the life of creators, and new professions that will move, who will understand how to work with this, the question here is not the rank. well , you can probably enter such professions in the state register. well, that is, in the future, you really have the wildest deficit in having managers, agents, professionals in having enlightenment in this area, because if you sign a contract and don’t look at what is there, but certainly it’s some kind of then the path, uh, the thorny path, where you get bumps, but it gradually creates from you who feels already in that status to move into a completely different path. i just really want to wish you a shift, and in the new reality in which we now live, live at point-blank range. fine as they say, you don’t have to, not me, you understand? here if it will develop so. i hope, for what, uh, sergei polunin

, a passionate creative person, wants to move the industry forward. here, yes, the aforementioned is her slave. so, too, a passionate person. they are so passionate that, generally speaking, sergey is sitting here with us today. yes, but when he realizes that there are no resources here, well, he will just take it and move to another place. this is how we can keep these people, who are passionate here in russia, in which we have a minus that does not keep people close, and i will also reveal the secret, i also talked with yura bardash once. also a person who let's go there, that is, they don't keep, closer than such. well, that is, they need to be held somehow for them to chicken, or what? i'm really a year ago. i left. i left, i said. i took back everything that was in the west

again everything that i lost. i brought back the film agent. i already have cinema in america, it should have once held advertising contracts, that is, everything again again there , that is, i returned it, but i hope that people simply, perhaps people were not allowed to think like that, because it was very there really was a lot, and for agents in russia , the main thing for artists is that he was just in demand, he wanted to do something to me there , just tell seryog there, let 's do it there in novosibirsk, that's it, i went like that. it's not about money. are you talking about yuri? bardash. that is, he asked me, seryoga , we were talking about some one there. i say no money. he speaks without question. well, that is, people want to do really want. yeah , sergey can throw a bridge, and the next

decade and see yourself in the next decade in the creative industries in your industry. what are you doing what are you? well, during these 10 years? well, ideally, in the first four or five years, it is to make such performances, new technologically advanced, or something new in a new way , and it would be good. they would be bought and sold and people would go to them so that prove that ballet. oh, it’s interesting, perhaps, the collaboration with bullywood coming to china and india. well, that is, such collaborations, it's interesting, the second stage will be the introduction, in general, into the industry itself and the cultivation of these agent managers. this also needs to be created. i hope there will be a theater point and a base, which is still missing, in order to create more products, from which even tourism could travel. and i didn't understand. why

tourism does not pay attention to the performances are now building several huge venues. where there is tourism. this is the main thing. what to pay attention to, because people love from switzerland. i spoke, there are 200 people, and they live in cities in the mountains. they do a performance, a festival is created, and there is full of it, starting tourism was such a problem in the regions, indeed, no sound , no light, no platform. and now it’s a little bit already there are such opportunities, you need to create content, and it’s like going to a performance somewhere, and then there to see some kind of art object and something else and live in this town. that is, did i hear correctly that we also have a lot of passionate governors, heads of regions who are ready, for example, to invite a good person to the region. e, and.

in principle, to provide everything necessary, but there is sevastopol, but i know that many heads of cultural institutions they, well, sort of supervise several sites, well, for example, because novosibirsk vladivostok khabarovsk, if i didn’t make such an offer 100%, that is me, i that's just to catch fire, caught fire to do something. it would be happiness to do happiness, and it seems to me that there are many people like me, but we have now the regions are distributed according to the specialization someone develops animation. who are they, but someone is music, someone, well, tourism, of course, but some of the regions out of 89. i could take on the responsibility of becoming, in general, the capital of the ballet of modern innovative self-innovative ballet. so channel one. and there is the same ice age suddenly times and get sick. why not? this is wildly interesting. he's such a pretty

specific thing that it's hard , very difficult. this is, if even the dancers they can't, if you're not trained for ballet, there dance ballet, that is, it is absolutely specific. you have to slightly hip there knees under that is. a classic show, well kind of, but britain uh did that kind of show , it was successful, and hmm, half was ballet, and half was gathered from the street guys, just from the street a lot of injuries, their knees flew there, but it was successful. you have an inner feeling, like what percentage of the country's population. now russia is generally interested in ballet now due to the fact that in soviet times, aching was the main thing. it seems to me very large, that is, potentially. uh, it's a ballet-based show that has a pretty broad audience. uh, but as it were a matter of technology, again a matter of promotion. i'll be honest here. this is a very

big promoter. sells better in china than opera and orchestra. it’s just that when an orchestra and operas come, it’s number one, in my opinion, one number one promoter in the classics, ballet sells better and sometimes they go to ballet. well, you'll pay a lot more. that is, if the royal ballet dancer can even pay 30,000 pounds a year for the premiere, then the opera can at a time 50 in munich opera's budget 100 million years four. unfair, yes it is clean. that's how it went. how would it be accepted. my mother worked in kiev at the ballet rock theater , why do we get less, but sell better, to which the head came out and said, e opera families, they need to feed them, that is, it was him for ballet

a little bit, how to children, or something, who still do not have families, they are still young, and, unfortunately, they retire early, which does not allow them to gain a foothold and have some weight in order to influence something, so i want to regulate a little bit. it's clean. here you also need to change what has historically evolved over the years, but this is completely. it seems to me incredible in general, the goal and load and change the thinking of the dances themselves. i was once on the bbc with one dancer and the bbc and i told you that you need to raise salaries, you need to give freedom, so that there are contracts and a presenter like that, yes, and to this person. this person is like that, we don’t come to ballet for this. in short, everything was hacked to me. that is, they have a little mentality, of course, and it's right that they love the dance. they really live

this work for many 9 years of study. and it is convenient for directors. it doesn't dictate to them. what to do, they are fulfilled. it is very comfortable. and for me , even here, as producers. uh, in london, i could pay 400 pounds a week , not much, but i had the right to pay only. uh-huh i'm like, let's pay them 2.000 to perform. well, are you going to burn out like that? here dima begins to not burn out, but how not to take advantage of this this. well, poor dancers who just danced for free without even dancing, who are supporting you now. that's when it becomes completely unbearable, when you just want to slam the door, and well, during such emotions, what do you draw strength from? well, i think family

helps a lot. children elena my girlfriend. i mean , this is all very important. i got seriously injured there this year, that is, i had a lot of cancellations in europe . hill and just the family allows you to stay. stay it at your center becomes a family. it is important. you have a son , the world, and a son, a gift. yes happy birthday to your first son your first son is called world world. yes, and you, uh, they will be in this art, as if they will be very very theatrical, both worlds love to dance , in general they only dance, just so charismatic in general for an artist, that it is important

that it is interesting to look at him, whether this energy is present attracting then it will work. will you be it a movie musician, whatever. here they have one for them it is interesting to watch what they choose. there's music theater, well, something seems to me creative. you are very very emotional, uh, like to dance then, it turns out that you have to invest strength. well, directly into their future. in general, and i have such an idea. if i have not created, i am creating performances, that is, i can, in principle, convey and be calm that someone supports. this is my idea, yes, it appears if they choose this one direction, it will be a gift for me, of course. do you already have a photo session with your two sons? uh, in the spirit of davidal chappelle? well , that is, i see more, well, really, the son of the world is a gift and sergey, well, seriously. i'm just

just flying around it all will need to be rebuilt. although you. uh, i'm sorry loshapel, okay. although, i am now in a hurry in new york, he me. and here i am on the cover of his latest book. that is, i am present there, dear friends, the night is, of course, long, but our podcast has limits, so it, to unfortunately, it is already coming to an end . there is still a lot to talk about, but there is still more to be done. sorry, i've switched to pathos language. actually, really. here sergey gives the impression of a person who really stubbornly rested and who is ready to move this industry. and i would like to wish success in this. and what a thank you for helping me say that here on this stage. people who are ready to help are also ready to join. if someone sees us now and is also ready to help sergey in getting off the ground and implement his idea. you too contact us if you want, if you want, contact us

we will find and help you get on the server, incredible. it was interesting talking to you. we think in the image of people we and you are the image that can take a large number of people by the hand and lead them into this art, and popularize it. i think it's clear. you have just such a potential, that is, it is for you for your energy sergey polunin, brilliant, russian ballet dancer, fortunately, dear friends elena kipper, producer. e roman romanov media manager, creative podcast industry. good night to you, dear friends. good night dear viewers on the first

literary podcast. let them not speak, let them read, of course, we are talking about literature , we are talking to writers, we are talking to translators , we are talking to readers, but we are talking precisely so that you are our dear listeners and viewers. ah, it was a pleasure to read. this is our goal and this is what we will try to convince you today together with anna matveeva good afternoon, anna, or rather, good night. hello anna matveeva the well-known prose writer is already very much written in recent years. e, perceptibly protruding. well, so to speak, in the first row. and so you can probably say how you feel like one of the leading modern prose writers or not, how did it all happen suddenly or not suddenly? what is the dynamics of your attitude towards a writer's biography in general, how does it happen when you write , write and suddenly, finally built or, as cheburashka said in the cartoon, how did it all happen to you? and how it really is, i

really in recent years, let's just say came out of a niche, so to speak, from some. well, such a writer for a certain circle, that is, if the people who read me and remain are my readers with me, but in recent years there have really become several of them. more than that makes me happy. i can’t say that i moved right into the ranks of the first and the best, but i have increased my reading. do you think, after all, that niche literature is literature that is read less or more, because there are such niches where there are fans. uh, hundreds of thousands. well, it's not mine. niche. no, mine was. she is quite humble. here i am periodically. it seems to me that i even return to it, because my main goals have never been to increase the growth of readers. i have always wanted to write for myself here. here i am frozen. why does a writer write? eh, can't do anything else. classes from which i get high, but here i actually continue, or it's just

life, yes, in fact, as he breathes, he writes like that. yes, change just so happened that it became my profession, and in fact was right at the beginning to say that as how this dynamic is going on. and i think that there are cases of a bright start, when a person wrote a book and woke up famous very often this book remains the only one, it happens like that, but, by the way, this story is also partly present in me, because when i wrote the dyatlov pass this book is 20 years old. i’m famous, maybe i didn’t wake up, but you didn’t know more, this book still feeds me, it actively retakes, was beaten and so on. well, that's not less, anyway. i did not want to be the author of the woodpecker pass. i always wanted to write something new, more interesting and significant for me, and i probably ended up writing something spirit. well, did you grow up following the detective? well, some kind of specially constructed plot that leads to something. this is not alien to you. very interesting, right? well, to be honest, in all these years, nothing equals the history of the dyatlovites. i never

met. yes, that is so fantastic mysterious story that excites absolutely everyone on a level with this history. i can’t say anything, just like that, very vivid stories, there are others. for example, i have a church novel investigating such events within the church that is not the most, perhaps, uh, other familiar. yes , by the way, i want to reprint this book. i have such an idea. here is about human sacrifice. the story is also based on a criminal case, based on it is also fantastically interesting, but still it’s not on the wrong level. that is, you are new, leskov, in fact, as i suddenly realized at that moment, leskov was very interested. these are the closed lanes areas of life, mysterious ones, he was engaged in schism, as you well know, he was engaged in church life with the jews, because in the 19th century everyone wrote about the serfs and the people, everyone wrote about the bourgeois, quite a lot was also written about the clergy. before

leskov, as from the main characters, he practically did not write, no one has a lot of us now. of course, there was a certain surge of such literature. interest in church literature. it was just, in my opinion, about 15 years ago. and now it seems to me that there will be a new wave, curious. ah, what do you think about trends , or as they say about trends now, i don’t really like this word, that is, you can predict what will become relevant in the literature. i mean thematic or genres or it's not worth doing writing or writing writer. he just lives and, uh, writes. how does someone breathe just said or still he understands what's relevant i mean, even non-commercial success and just wondering what's going on. eh, how are you? eh, between these two pines? orient yourself, it all depends, of course, from the writer. i can literary he predict. saying i can, but i also wanted to take a pen and close the screen so that no one

would know, and directly find out from you straight away so that our viewers do not find out anything ecclesiastical, literature will definitely return in the near future. this is already visible. it feels like a story about religion. perhaps, about sects, there will be interest in returning to this topic. as a rule, i foresee them, but i always follow him myself and do not have time at the same time sincerely for prose, which is carried away by its work, for which work is life. and analysts at the same time, yes, a person who clearly understands us that there will be a new one. i don’t know either, i try to understand, and it’s scary, still curious. i also have a feeling that some kind of new axial time is receding, if you remember karl jaspers , he had such terms for today, the time of the emergence of new religions, the emergence of new ideas, because the world is already ruled by an idea, in fact, they are material facts, right right. moreover, i'm sorry if i interrupted me about the idea in

modern russian literature, just very lack of ideas and thoughts. look write beautifully learned all people know how to tell stories. on the whole, that is , literature with a plot, in my opinion, everything is also very good with this now. they are excellent at working with biographies. e with actual material, but no, there are no thoughts, including ideas, i probably also have some lack of them, because i feel it, with a bang, well, at the level of just some kind of trend, maybe there is not enough experience as an author, there are a lot of schools, uh, that teach writing. now this is also more true than time, it did not appear yesterday. and there are a lot of good programs will not. now they talk, but in soviet times they were just condemning that a writer should e come from a field camp or a factory. well, if you remove this soviet rhetoric, then a person needs experience dostoevsky to speak, in order to write a novel you need to stock up on one or more strong impressions. i remember this very well, so not only ideas , but maybe experience is not enough, for example,

why is a young man, if he is not a genius, yes , but there is still not enough genius, this is an exact product. why is it extremely rare for a young person to write a strong book, a powerful book that will really sound, which will remain in the history of literature, in principle, will remain on the shelves of such an average reader, because a young person, as a rule, has nothing to talk about if he has not witnessed some -something unique events of something like that, experienced both comfort and convenience there is nothing to share yet. he can talk about what he is going through to come to mind and the one who did not suffer. still no, the idea is also born from a person who, as a rule, experienced something and perestrodal. how these things are connected in some fantastic way, therefore, when young authors come to me for advice, and there are a lot of them. i always tell them not to rush hmm write a big novel and publish it. well,

live a little. run exercise. look around. keep a diary of observation, a diary of readers, and then something will definitely sprout from this. i remember how it was for me, unfortunately, be sure to tell me about yourself. well, not necessarily not always. it’s just that i teach actors at the moss studio school, and there are special masters there in the junior years, they say, they write down everything that you see every day , write down the experience, but this does not always lead to genuine feelings. it may well remain at the level of everyday observations, no more, because this is a matter of giftedness. giftedness is also either there or not, it cannot be artificially transplanted to a person, talented, writer or not, but this is obvious. true, you need to open the book in three or four places. read clearly how rule. yes, although i am a very reader. it seems good to me. i always give the writer a second third tenth chance. that is, you are tolerantly patient. that is, in general , flipping through these pairs of sides is the same. if

i have already spent money on a book, i still usually finish it. although this is probably wrong. you know time money is the main thing if i have already started reading. i'm interested. um, can i get something out of there? remember how akhmetov from chernyshevsky's novel shared books, he took a book from the shelf and, uh, for the first twenty i tried to understand on the pages if there was something new and useful, if not, then he would leave the book like this, well, it’s actually useful or emotionally close or distant or interesting all the same at that moment. no, because some books leave a feeling, you know, the tiredness of a swimmer who has covered a long distance. yes , you know what you did. why didn't they even give you a medal? here but you can write in the reader's diary. you keep a reading diary. yeah, uh, i mean, when i die, writers can read, and their

creativity. well, uh, provocative questions are brewing in my mind and generally speaking, why was the book written? this is the key question that i ask myself. i often talk about it. so that all russian literature of the xix century. well, the great russian novel in the river. r. great russian novel. it's all on the shelf. these are 15 books. okay, 20 books. well, okay, 25 days, but downloads will already fit here. they thought about it, that this is a very small number of dostoevsky 8 romanov turgenev 6 goncharov 3, leskov there are three or four in different numbers. uh, four tolstoy and that's it, yes there is almost no one else besides these five. hmm. and now they are being produced. e. well, how many years does it take to produce 20 quality novels? well, two or three years, i think, oh well, it's somehow very fast. yes, no, no, no, no, no, things are written that when you read,

you think, why and why? i? well, i don’t know money, i don’t feel sorry for the book, but why did i spend this time so that i would like to give some examples further, but i don’t want to offend anyone from other authors. mm. i can't figure out what i have left, what i have from the war of the world has become. i understand their coffin was to go to bed and i will not forget, but from any or modern book there remains. this is the feeling that something has passed into you. well, of course not. the fact is that our profession is writing , in the last 15 years i don’t know, probably, but rapidly losing and now, in my opinion, it has already lost, in general, any sacredness in the writer. everything is now absolutely fine so it happened. is it like the weather? it has become to some extent, yes, the craft of it, they really teach it, it has become fashionable. to me seems to be the root of this phenomenon. we must look in our general enthusiasm for various blogs,

you see, we have recently. pay attention. we really write to each other most often. calling for example is considered bad manners. why is he calling me? he must first write sound and speak bad. yes, that's not good either. although before the broadcast, i just wrote down and sent one army. but in general, i usually don’t do this, but that is, yes, it’s customary to write first and ask permission. we're coming back without carpentry here this world and yes, writers. it's fashionable now. everyone wants to be a writer. i do not know why. it seems to me that this is such a difficult profession, which, moreover, is not so well paid, but for some reason everyone wants to, yes, write a book , publish a book. seeing it in a bookstore is such a strange picture, you rightly noted that you want to hmm understand how yes, understand why . how to understand the book? but in general, this

paradox, because difficult reading - is the last village to the human. it seems to me, yes, otherwise what a tablet once i understood anna karenina, as soon as possible, well, how could i understand this thick novel as soon as possible. i'm already picking up your great novel, which, as it was said somewhere, was greatly reduced in one of the interviews. and let's still talk about this at the moment, the last, apparently book. yes, if i'm not behind the times. this novel was shortlisted for our prestigious big book national literary award. this happened to you on the third times the fourth fourth then. tell me what i missed. i remembered that the two storybooks were from the nineties and the novel an enviable sense of belief yes yes yes yes. yes, of course, means the fourth time. you, as they say now, are shortlisted, i don’t like this word, but nevertheless, in the national waste. in general, in awards, you are also

quite successful. but this book , of course, hmm surprises. here , it seems, it seems to me, and history is written on the scale in which a life or two lives or several lives flow. tell me how it is everything turned out every 100 years is called this book. and this is, uh, an affair with a diary, what do you mean by that? how did it happen? well , in fact, we talked about trends, and now about whether they can be predicted, but i really was again, in my opinion, 10 years ago. uh, there was such a fashion on the diary, and it kept for a very long time on literary diaries on the book, written hmm based on the diary, it continues for a very long time, playing at all, in principle, no, like one of the heroines of this book, says no in in a world of more interesting reading than other people's diaries, the book is partly based on the authentic diaries of my grandmother ksenia mikhailovna lyoshina, and i came up with the second line,

because i didn’t want to just publish these diaries by somehow rewriting them. but i still wanted it to be a roman, to be a kind of dialogue, and the heroines of the separated centuries and the second heroine. i came up with a common hmm with me. she only has the fact that she also lives in yekaterinburg, and well, partially. i gave her my childhood. and how e interacts here first girls, then girls. women how they communicate despite the fact that they may not be familiar in 100 years. yes, as what rhymes of fate hmm, i was able to see you between them. well, in fact, this whole book is about this and it is still diaries, otherwise what is a diary in general? why do people keep diaries do they want someone to read them? or they write them for themselves, how frankly can diaries be, there are a lot of questions here. if you say, e what is the most important question, probably the first two mm. why are people who

are we related by blood? suddenly they turn out to be non-relatives, and suddenly our relatives turn out to be those who are in no way connected with us by any blood relationship. this is the first and second question. um, why do some people get more appeal than others. the first for me is also read in an obvious way, because there is a blood relationship. and there is a kinship in another in spirit, but er, the crown of all this is marriage, yes. because marriage is not between native people, but marriage, and if a christian marriage is a sacrament, any marriage, any decision, be close to others for a long time man. this is uh, but a kind of conviction that he is closer to you than relatives is not so. hmm, not always marriage, when there may be friendship , maybe, in general, people who accidentally collided who should not have met in this life, all of a sudden, why are they they turn out to be very important relatives to each other,

they save each other. we do not always go for help, when we really need it for relatives, that kinship cannot be canceled. yes, you can't say. you are no longer my sister. there is no such institution. yes it is clear. well it everything is at the level of legal or moral, and you can’t say, you are no longer my mother. you can quarrel. god forbid, i loved my parents very much, so uh for me it’s very uh , but kinship is something that cannot be canceled, and closeness, uh, showers mood is something that in general can be canceled and this is more responsibly, probably yes, when such a kindred of the soul occurs. yeah , a miracle that is sometimes completely undeserved by a person, but when it happens, you need to really cherish this feeling and feed it, this applies, of course, and love and marriage and friendship, and in general all these close and not close ties.

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a common technique, but it's always important how you do something with it. how do you manage to play with him somehow. well, not any areas of my interests, in principle, throughout, probably, my whole life. i have one of my favorite books. this is the diary of maria bashkirtseva. i read it when it was reprinted for the first time only in russia. hmm. in the ninth year this book was published, and i don’t know how many times i reread it. and although, uh, the book read very scandalous for there's nothing to say, because maria's mother blew out all the points of view of controversial things from there, which somehow masha was not very well attested. hmm from our spoiled century, looking through the eyes of a modern person. but this is an absolutely innocent diary, cute, touching, smart talented girl is very romantic, very beautiful very talented so early tragically passed away, dear viewers. we are talking about this rebel maria

bashkirtseva. i also think that she is not so much a rebel e as hmm a very sharp and sensitive person, well, here comes the middle of our conversation and, uh, i'll try to jump to our rubric, starting from the material of your novel, every 100 years. i still think that something very important is captured here. a story that is not only about two specific people or one specific family or your family too, and not just family, heroines or heroines? but also to the fate of the country, the fate of russia, because there we are talking about the last quarter of the 19th century. let's be honest, i don't think i was wrong. yes, so it would be right to say yes and about the last quarters of the twentieth century and a lot of things are repeated not only in destinies that, well, it’s clear , they grow up, lose illusions, gain experience , this happens to all people, but

some uh, repeated uh, dramatic events also happen to the country. and here is a combination of everyday details that are written out beautifully. no matter how much you ironically over the correct and metaphors. here all the words are in the right places. and this big vision. we will try to see this now on a completely different material, and i will remind our viewers that in the middle of our conversations we have an aha out of three. either we're talking about a poem, like today, or we're picking up an old book from my bookcase, or some familiar quotation from classical literature. now we will talk about the poem by nikolai zabolotsky which is called passers-by. and this poem, uh, very famous uh, for those who love nikolai zabolotsky i consider him an absolutely brilliant poet and this

poem simply describes the route from peredelkino station bypassing the cemetery to the town writers. this is a well-known fact, but i will say it here. i anticipate my non- acting. and uh, such a normal reading. here , uh, the poet tells us about what we do not often think about. we somehow fit together. forgive me for the banality, the material and spiritual consciousness of the spirit, does not have a material carrier, where is my i in the heart in the brain in the hands in this chair is not clear. yes, after all , there is an immortal soul in us, and from our body is riveted to everyday events, the word soul is repeated here. so many times. let's. let's try to read this poem. and just in case, i honestly take a cheat sheet, because i can go astray, but still.