it is crowded by a brilliant poet and this poem simply describes the route from the peredelkino station bypassing the cemetery to the town of writers, this is a well-known fact, but i will say it here. i anticipate my non- acting. ah, such a normal read. here the poet tells us about what we do not often think about. we somehow fit together. forgive me for the banality, the material and spiritual consciousness of the spirit, does not have a material carrier, where is my i in the heart in the brain in the hands in this chair is not clear. yes, after all , an immortal soul is present in us, and from our the body is chained to er, everyday events , the word soul is repeated here. so many times. let's try to clear this poem. just in case, i’ll honestly take my hand with a cheat sheet, because i can go astray, but still. passerby nikolai zabolotsky

full of spiritual anxiety in a triukha with a soldier's bag along the sleepers of the railway walks. at night, on foot too late , the penultimate train of the moon left for the nara station and shines over the roofs beyond the edges of the barn. getting up, turning, in the direction of the bridge. he enters the spring wilderness, where pines, leaning towards gost, stand, like a gathering of the soul, here the pilot of the edge of the alleys rests in a vorokhelent and a dead propeller crowns his monument whiter and in the dark hall of the universe over this sleepy lithuania rises that sudden instantaneous peace that pierces the soul.

that marvelous peace before which, agitated and always in a hurry, the living human soul, with lowered gaze, and in the slight rustling of the kidneys and in the slow noise of the branches, the invisible young man the pilot talks to her about something, and the body wanders along the road, walking through thousands of years and his grief and worries run like dogs on the trail an amazing thing, a person wanders along the road at the beginning and at the end along the road, only at the beginning of his misfortune and sorrow, it seems spiritual, but not bodily at the end, because the eternal , indestructible soul in him speaks with the soul, e, the buried dead pilot of the soul speaks of something else.

this is an amazing switch from the material plane to the spiritual and spiritual plane, which only zabolotsky succeeds to some extent, it is given by ani matveeva in this novel, because here we are talking about two uh hmm girls, uh, who are called by similar names xenichka. and what's the point in this rhyme that the youngest of them xana gets by reading other people's, not someone else's diaries how it all works. firstly, the name really does bear the name xenia, toby the heroine's guest is a stranger, of course, yes, yes, the hotel alien uh-huh and here are both heroines, they are really strangers. they are strangers in their family. they are sometimes strangers to their own country. they are sometimes strangers to themselves. for me, the names are generally very important. and by the way, nothing is random. even the title of the book every 100 years, if you make

an abbreviation, then there will be a name, patronymic and surname, the main character is xenia sergeevna sergeevna leskova i really wanted, yes, that they were alexei and well , firstly, my grandmother's name was ksenia mikhailovna, i could not change something here somehow here. it seemed to me that you were true to them, it suited her very well, in general, xenia was not customary to give to noble families in those years, the sovereign emperor named his daughter xenia and after him the nobles began to imitate him, in general, it was pure fashion at the turn of the century not there was, for example, the name dima there was only a broom diminutive dmitry yes almost was not in the xix century was not very. it seems popular to me, not as popular as, for example, people of my generation, because in my class, either six or seven, where he studied, all were dima, not a single mitya, not a single one. so yes, that is, it was important for me that the name was just that, and all the other

rhymes. some of them were laid on purpose, and some i later saw for myself, or they even suggested to me . part of the novel is completely devoted to switzerland. yes, everyone is afraid of the arrival of a comet that should destroy the earth, but about this comet, it’s a very comet and writes about it in the newspapers about it in the newspapers that it’s all flying and soon nothing will be left of us. years, of course, sveta is a catastrophe, yes, another xenia tells her a different scale, and an explosion at the sorting station at the sverdlovsk sorting station. this is a completely different story on a different scale, but everyone was also afraid and decided that even i needed these rhymes in order to show what really in fact, not so much and much is changing, that is, of course, the world is changing in the sense that it is becoming more so, you know, scary and comfortable. now everything is very comfortable too absolutely, that is, a world where a person forgets

that he is dying. he is weak, of course, mortal. in fact, it still doesn't change that much. why literature, that he is still death, right? in fact, not so much not so much we have advanced in the study of people. we still do not know where we come from, where we work, our bridge is also not complete. well, how people want to know. because it will be with him after death, but i always seemed more interesting question. and what happened to us before birth, and here we also don’t know anything about my thoughts, because zabolotsky’s poem was exactly about this and i was amazed that you chose it? this is my favorite, but revive the soul. we are not buddhists, well, it’s not like we believe the transmigration of souls. the eternal soul is indestructible, what was before, where how does it correlate with my current needs absolutely.

what irony is quite serious and many things. in fact, it is impossible to explain it is impossible to explain these strange coincidences that occur in life, you know , i very rarely write about myself, but it is always interesting for us to read. but it really happened to you, well, how would it look like in reality, if i wrote what really happened to me. nobody would have believed me, because my whole life is a series of things i want to emphasize. and say that's what you need to expect from one matveeva and why is it not written? because it's a secret. it's intimate, i don't want to expose it, and for now i i don’t really understand how this can be given some kind of literary form, well, a coincidence and surprising cases in some rhymes. i love the theme of twins very much, for example, and the fact that we often come across in life people who are similar either to us or to some important people for us, this follows all

observant people. and i even wrote an entire collection of stories on this topic, because i write just such collections of the cycle, united by some idea. it seems to me that we don’t know anything about twins either, then there is, literature always some. complicated double. even if it's not literal, a coincidence, yes and sometimes it's who we hide the authors from. i mean, it tells me this i this, here it is, and sometimes it 's completely pure fiction, but yes, there is always some kind of second third fourth level, the more difficult. prose, the more these levels, the more interesting it is to dissect and open them. but this, of course, should be done, probably, after all, by literary critics or very, very gifted talented readers who sometimes read what the writer didn't even want you to read. yes, uh, gifted readers are able to hmm figure this out and catch the writer by the tail, there is a text right. plus

, you don’t say anywhere that gogol’s trilogy dead souls is what was supposed to reproduce the plan of dante e da inferno and the paradiso from purgatory that his friends came up with for him. those who helped him were not friends of criticism right from now on to read or otsakov and about sex grigoriev hmm , of course, and belinsky who fought with this now, what can we say, is that really the point no, of course there is. despite the fact that gogol did not invent it. that is, the book is such a self-continuing book, of course, the book was written when it was read. yes, and here we answer our question, which we posed a little higher. and why are books actually written so that they are read and re-read probably, and it is still desirable not to read one, but a little more and several generations, because there is a double and a reader in the offspring. yes. uh, how our word will respond double happens and posthumous very often this is very important story some attentive readers, but

then again, if you're lucky irony in this book. well, there is, i have in general, in principle, a peculiar sense of humor. well, not everyone, as it understands, may not have responded. i just, uh, want to know how you are. irony. yes, these are not too non-ronic the most believe me, well, we live in a time when, uh, without a grammatical error , i don’t like russian speech, as pushkin said yes, without ironic overtones, but it seems almost impossible to have a serious conversation. here's how to me times really like that in the books of anna matveeva in particular in this book. eh, a serious conversation is possible, even if there is irony and although i am tempted to ask what is there reduced, if there are so many hundreds of pages in the book, but tell me here again i want to make such a cinematic gesture. only in our podcast. let

them talk, let them read. you can find out what was not included in the book, she is actually matveeva. i wrote this will not be very long too. for a long time i collected material for a long time. i had to visit all points. e, which i write, that is, the geography of the book is abstract, it is more switzerland and khabarovsk riga petersburg in general, the mass of some places where i had to be sure to be, then, in principle, i entered into this topic for a very long time, and then i couldn't get out of it people who write great novels. they know this effect, that is, it is not difficult to start a book. there, in general, everyone can and it is very difficult to finish difficult to get out of this material. you begin to live in it, you feel comfortable in it. it's like the way you look the series you like so that it never ends. and, well, sometimes the series really never end , but the novel had to somehow leave the point.

and when i did, i realized that the book turned out to be such that the binding would not withstand it, and my publisher and i decided that we would still try to cut it and it turned out what happened, but in fact we cut it very carefully and no one. our practically suffered no, one storyline. i cut it, but hmm, at least a lot sorry, but you know, i really i tried to be very careful. and i think someday i'll publish a director's cut. i have this i have this idea. yes, it's following me. you know, here is our conversation. smoothly came to an end exactly on the note that you are saying, i am also sorry to end our conversation, because we were not able to talk about many things, both about new books and about your native ural, as such a place of power for modern literature, but i'm sure that all this is yet to come. and today i am very grateful to you that you are so they spoke wonderfully about their prose. we

thank anna matveeva for having a conversation with her on the podcast today. let them talk, let them read, i say goodbye, goodbye. thank you and say as always. read with pleasure. hello, i’m a cosmonaut pilot about haters and today we’ll talk about how batteries are selected from astronauts, who they take , who they don’t take in the future . of course rehabilitation after return to earth. look, we know each other, but it is necessary, of course, to introduce you to, uh, a general practitioner. e, deputy

head of the clinical department of the medical directorate of the cosmonaut training center named after yuri alekseevich gagarin maria pushkar vasilevskaya. hello well, first of all, look, what do you do in the scarf center , cosmonauts what are your functional duties anton i, as a representative of, uh, our entire large medical management unit, i want to briefly talk about what medicine is in general in astronaut training center in our medical board, as you know, 5 i do engineering, which provide work in the medical units, the clinical department , where i and two more cases that deal with purely space medical affairs. these are the department of preparation for space flight factors and the department of medical-pediological and psychological training. and we also have , as it were, our own pharmacy division, which also provides us with medicine and medical products for astronauts. but the clinical department where i work.

this, most of all, probably looks like what an ordinary person considers a polyclinic, that is, this is the unit that controls the health of the cosmonauts, precisely by checking their state of health. that is, we have ordinary doctors and a general practitioner. i am a surgeon , a laryngologist, an ophthalmologist, a dentist, a neuropathologist. we have epidemiologists. and so we monitor the state of health of all these doctors, the cosmonaut, and plus we check them as experts, because the astronaut. just a man, and this is a man who performs very important state mission. and these professions, associated with a high risk to life, they are regulated, and therefore the state of health should, uh, fit into the scope of the order. as you know, we have a special order, the official order of the monauts, a special space order, which takes its history from gagarina no our order, uh, 2001. he will

soon issue a new order, which will be reworked for 20 years. yes, and everything is spelled out there, what an astronaut can get sick with, what he cannot get sick with. what cars can get sick? they are people. what a staging of the surface, that astronauts are not super. healthy people because they , like ordinary people, have some kind of illness of their own . yes, this is our argon. yes, cosmonauts are still super old people, well, who, like all people , can get sick with age and as a result of their professional activities . sometimes occasionally, and we must notice it in time and prevent it. if you need to cure, therefore, you know our order states how often a medical certificate is passed, yes, control will become health. every 3 months. here anton knows to take tests every 3 months, go through all the ecg specialists many times a year

. bullying back. as you like two weeks, at least the doctors begin to scoff at the full program. well, due to the fact that we are such experts, we check. we are also selecting cosmonauts. yes, this is for us in general, how does this happen? yes? this is a completely special function of ours, which, uh, well, is associated with great responsibility, because sometimes you represent people for your part? but you, probably too. of course, the dream is the therapist's dream pressure gop in man - a dream. he wants to come, and the closer he seems to strive for his dream, the more he tunes in to my memory. here were the selections in 2010 12 turns out in the eighteenth and twentieth years and it is always very exciting all these selections responsibly. uh, at first you somehow know the ads they do with on the site are laid out in the space center. threads.

yes, what are the simplest requirements - these are anthropometry, that is, certain height , a certain weight, there must be parameters in order to man fit hmm actually in the spaceship. the space suit is in. yes, then we have some, by the way, i 'm just not low from 150 to 190. and the weight from 50 to 95 95 is according to the spacesuit, but there still should be a certain lodgement. the length of the torso is sometimes in a person, height is suitable, height, sitting, yes, rosseti and in this way. is it measured by the torso, because you have this person in a certain position on the ground. and if his torso is too long, then he simply may not fit. everything ended well, it happens

such that here, that a person does not pass through these parameters. yes, miracles happen, people grow up. you know, they even grow in space and people submit medical documents, the preliminary most common ones. there are usually analyzes and a chest x-ray, an x-ray of the nasal sinuses and an ultrasound scan. and we first look at them at the preliminary stage , these analyzes are documents, documents, when the documents are selected for medicine and a person, for example, is suitable, well, according to some other age criteria, for example, yes 35 years of education. now we also have you yes, how? uh, we usually have selections of such departmental people, after all, they choose from such industries that, well, are related to astronautics, they will remove 35 maximum thirty-five, and at least, and at least there must be work experience of 3 years experience, when we had open set. do you remember

this, we had our first this first discovery in the thirteenth year. it wasn't just open. he was taking everyone. we had so much fun. we have read the documents. there was a populist singer who played on spoons, there were totally unexpected people. that is , there were people who were completely professions far from outer space, which for some reason decided. that this is some kind of show, he said, i have it, only here i have a window. this is where i fly into space. and then in short, i have all the shooting. so, say. well, keep filming, there was an actor who didn't pass, and then he said, i 'll learn physics. i will not yet. yes, and now, when a person has passed these parameters in absentia, he comes to the internal selection. and there, you know, we have four more commissions, that is medicine last before we have a professional selection, which is also. well it's just looking to check already. yes, they check. uh, did you buy a diploma, well, there are usually such questions in physics in mathematics, they give something in english, they ask, they let

you learn some technical document and you have to, well, explain it, that is, with yourself . come on, can you figure it out there? scheme? that is, they check how strong you are in engineering. that's what i would say. well, in general, such a selection of professional, do you remember that, then a psychological selection. you know that his afraid very much is a psychological selection. this is for us, in my opinion, most of all in recent times psychology. in general , sometimes it is difficult. of course, i passed it as an astronaut. here is modern art that is, when we were just selected there, it seemed easier to me, there were some tests, like ordinary pilots, so there was nothing new for me, but now some tests based on some russian soviet superpsychologists foreign. naturally, there they can already shock you a little to see your reaction. here he is them. what is it you do? the test, they say, you will accurately beat the current, but you have to pretend to be some yes and uh

based on the conclusions of these tests. they continue to say a year, yes, that is, they say. that this is not our choice? that is, we do not invent anything. we have tests here, they give us documents , that is, we do not challenge the lungs, they trust the nuclear weapons that are there, well, this is when everything happens and there are shadows that do not pass, we also know such, yes, then we have physical education and physical education can also be difficult, because when i looked at the requirements, physical education fall, how is the water flat? well, why don’t you enter such a plan, me, this is wrong, it means you fell. you just have to steal 3 m to enter the water, but at the same time you will fight off a good raincoat. he somehow needs to fall flat into the side. no, from the side, but only good meat. here you will be frightened, at some point you will be delayed. you're wrong then. here you will enter like a pendulum head. and that it is delayed, then it is very

painful, probably. i looked at these physical per kilometer per 100 m. yes, we have normal ordinary ones among us. you know there are no olympic champions astronauts. we don't have any nobel laureates. well, there are excellent students, but let's just say in culture. do you remember the cosmonaut did not pass alone in the tenth year, he trained , he came after 2 years and passed, so everything is difficult. and you only after a difficult one, when you already know, we had, let's say, 400 left, for example, there, well, 150 there, 200 comes through all these stages, as a rule, it comes to medicine. well, no more than forty man, and then actually, we go into business. we are watching them carefully. we are looking at the analyzes for the game, the very first audiograms. we check it out loud. do you know? what is a complex piece of equipment? uh, what we don't have in star city, people are collected and taken to

moscow. but then we have it. we even at this stage echo monitor happens. we, too, weed out by vision, by teeth, by audio. well, anything can happen, then we let them in for an in-depth examination in moscow, where they have powdered. mri also reveal surprises people believe that they are completely healthy. they i don’t know anything in my head, that is , some of the most-most are already weeded out, they go to tests related to physical activity. that is, this is a velometer, thanks for this natural test, a very passive postural test, too, no one really knows anything about this, right? it's like that. in general , an invention was invented in our honey board . we had such outstanding people. it would seem that a person is on the contrary to the table and it is tilted at different angles. well, that is, it becomes, or it costs. yes and this is the transmigration of blood allows you to assess how his body. maybe then react to weightlessness. there is no first moment. our blood is collected in

the upper part, too. what 's going on in your head with an increase in blood pressure? yes, of course, this is good, but we still have a pressure chamber. yes, three serious tests. this is a pressure chamber. and we also have a vestibular chair. about the vestibular chair. yes, but all this is possible, in principle, for example, the vestibular apparatus can be trained. as well as physical education, then we have a pressure chamber, where, of course, we have these pressure drops. it is an altitude of 5.000 m at the take-off, a dive is checked, when the descent is the fastest possible. and then, of course, the centrifuge. this is the quintessence. it can be said well top. i like it, of course i like it, but the overload and you immediately feel that you are a pilot, that you are sitting at the helm. here comes the overload. i have been flying since the age of 15, but the plane. for me, it is very simple and the overloads are much larger up to 9 units. and we have only five there, it’s not at all nothing and too it happens that people do not

pass such tests. we also had one. an example that a person has trained. well , of course, he did not train the centrifuge. he just became e, well, he grew older, became more mature and passed the selection, too, we know, of course, these overloads. there, plus three plus five, or plus four plus eight, but some by nature, some, like my profession, and some can train, so not everything is like that and when it was already we selected and it passed and these people passed. well it turns out the quintessence, sometimes select. how many there are 8 or 10 people and all these people are ready, and then the commission decides their fate. yes, when it is not selected, in the end, four or five, and it is a shame that all these others are equal, but this is no longer medical medicine. we had some cases when well, something like that during the selection there is something that cannot be entered into a normal

eh? this ordinary life. yes, we had a lot of unusual ones, for example, now, when they began to do it, a kind of pantomogram is such, you know, panoramic pictures of teeth. well everyone has teeth like teeth and suddenly we see with him, and a person has teeth here, like a saber-toothed tiger, here are his teeth, so in the picture they lie like this. well where is this extreme wisdom. no, here they are. just imagine. this jaw is missing, and they lie above the upper teeth in a person ; the teeth did not erupt; the dentition was formed and in general it did not interfere with him in any way, but such an astronaut cannot be allowed. why? well, because teeth that have not erupted can begin to cut at any moment in space, including in space in preparation. here imagine yourself, it's already done. and to remove this heavy operation. well, well, he was offered. he simply did not have time, that is, you need to remove it

before you come. and again, one has to think. here he needs such a difficult difficult operation to remove these two incredible teeth into space. maybe he has a different fate. well, sometimes you think, what happens is very unusual, it happens somehow that a person has come. he has one leg, in short, an arm. well, everything seems to be nothing with a stick, there is no taste in space, you, well, it's imperceptible. they generally do not need legs in space, but on earth one must train. yes, there to run, jump, there are all our tests. our doctors faith in geometry, he says, just don’t send him to us led a bicycle, how will he turn it didn’t pass, what else is so unusual? well, you won't reveal all the secrets. well, the most common thing for us, of course, was because of the sight of experienced people, they didn’t know that their eyesight was not passable and people were in their sinuses. here they had a runny nose , got complications in the sinuses and did not notice

a cyst could form. the cyst does not allow. okay, go through. here is the barracks. these tests and pressure drops barometric impassable vision necessarily 100%, well, for example, uh, according to vision there is uh, admissible not 100% in front of children. well, at school and someone is wearing glasses, for some reason they think that if he has glasses, he is not an astronaut or not, shaggy. i’ll take him as a pilot, maybe it’s impossible to take him, because i had such an incident, when i was in our seventh clinical hospital for pilots here in moscow and i was finishing it and was just about to go to apply for a detachment and suddenly they write me osteochondrosis. i'm a little fainted and fell. i say, how is it all going well, and the doctor says to me, and i thought you would thank me. that is, at least andrus wrote to the pilot. yes, he can fly. if without pain, as soon as he says what he feels. he will immediately write off. yes, everything happens in life. here he wants. well, he needs to quit. yes, it’s a good article to have

a pension, all these benefits are there. he says. that's all it hurts already and writes off everything. he speaks. it's strange, but he says, you 're going to sleep at the academy. i say, no, so academician i finished it like that. where am i in what kind of cosmonaut is this, but you can become an astronaut, that is, it turns out that a gladiologist is not allowed at the academy at all. and the astronauts are our neighbor. can't eat without pain. we , too, have such an offended sufferer's teeth pulled out, but then modern ones are inserted for free. notice, huh? well, it means that we select not only cosmonauts. we select more participants in space flight. of course, they are less common in our country and not so massive. but these are the people who make short space flights. well like visiting tourists cosmic who pay their money? well, there are all sorts of such targeted flights. here we have it open with the kazakhs. yes, we

have, in my opinion, after all, also mm from the koreans, in my opinion, they also flew from the state, there are artists there and so on. yes, you brought the directors and the requirements for these people, of course, are not such lines. the main thing is that they should be such that they become aggravated during these 8-12 days. the main thing is that a person can take off and be able to descend. and how are you 10 seconds. there to spend not much interferes with their poor health. just in case there, well. we talked about actresses. uh, the first 20 didn't get through at all. that is, there were the first 20. we have a group. that's right. there is a large group and there we had the first 20, then there were five more for 20 dollars in july, and alena and kairovyy and our beautiful ones. yes, they showed who

they showed on tv. you can speak from this very group first. yes, they just decided , probably, only two were selected for. well , what to do places one flies to another duplicates? well, they were good, someone might say that, probably, he pulled the deal, maybe not. we had everything. you know we have everything to be honest, we do not hide anything. we say everything directly, but if you have already selected a person, we protect him. we are following him. we help him. we are both councils. we control and most importantly, bring. yes , and during the space flight we follow him. not we. this is not our function, but we are preparing here our clinical, well, not our inter-department in the cosmonaut training center, not the clinical not the clinical department. and not all of our other departments. that is, we cook everything, we cook for health, these centrifuges cook. there factors of space flight, our other department

is the mysticism of biological training. they prepare clothes for them, hygiene means of medical control on board, athletes all train, then they are observed by specialists and other doctors who are in the soup, the main among them are doctors. crew. assistant astronaut - this is a doctor - this is a friend of the astronauts ask. would you like to have this particular doctor? you can, of course, say no, and then you were never put on it. yes? well, you never know psychological incompatibility, yet, because, to say their problem. in general, tell your health. we are definitely assigned. uh , there's a private comm every tuesday is every week, but if you're in trouble, you can just u call the ground and tell u get me a private comm with the crew doctor. as you know, he's in houston. always in the soup of houston, uh, in nasa for half a year. we fly for six months. he is there on a business trip, so he always has his phone on, always no matter day or night, he knows

that a certain phone is calling with boards. he will give up everything and answer. maybe we can give some ideas there and then at first we will develop this business. well, sometimes you may not want to tell. e your collections. i know your crew doctor very well, and i understand why, but after, so to speak, extremely , to whom you are very attached, i understand, well, in our present time, when now the means of communication have become different topics, we also contact the astronauts and they call us to correspond and communicate. we now also we have information about the condition of the astronaut on board. the most important thing is that the astronaut on board does a lot of work to support their physical fitness means of prevention. yes, the possible complications of this weightlessness are now being returned by astronauts in excellent condition. and on the ground, of course, meets the doctors of the crew. but then, when you come to star city, again we take you to our

loving caring ones. of course, we can call the doctor, but i can’t name it, we need to call him for ourselves in the next orbit. there i do not know to go medical training. you mean you said you pass, then the astronauts already have a lot of classes in all the basics . you can get sick specialty. you can get sick. you can get sick, he has on board, medical staff teach him how to treat various possible acute diseases on board? well, this is such a big first aid kit styling. this is what a good beautiful smooth styling is, this is a kind of set of something, we understand how this topic was liked by styling, when something necessary for performing a specific task. here is the medical direction of the medicine is written, what is how and how to take there are means for treating teeth, right?