tkaste is a must-read we talked about the women of eduard limonov a with a speech by a musician rapper writer to fans, and limonova and, uh, talked to him. i am the leading main batch file. it turns out that we are talking about the king of football , and at the same time in the soviet union in russia they didn’t really see him and don’t know him, because it turns out to be a big myth. aleksandrovich no myth no, the point is that television came to world football by and large, only in the sixty-sixth year they began to show the world cup year fifty-four. there nine matches

were in the fifty-eighth year in the swedish championship, too, somewhere on whose 10-12 not more than sixty-second year chile after the earthquake. yes, they showed a certain number of games via satellite to western europe. not all not all 32, but for the first time the world championship of the sixty-sixth year. it was broadcast in the soviet union for the first time almost in full. well , out of those thirty-two matches. well, how many there are, well, there are four matches, only central television did not show the first second program. basically, everything was according to the first program, and several matches were going on according to the second. we naturally saw what pele saw in the sixty-fifth year, when he arrived on july 4 at the luzhniki stadium, they played 3-0 and once again saw on tv, when on november 21 they played in rio on the marrakane 2-2. well, you see, look, that is, twice paul imagined at once

the cult of pele you are born, you already know that in short there was one there was even the first world championship when brazil won there was no television, only radio people did not watch i know in a week two weeks would be in some kind of fusion. in europe, the movies were shown, too, people did not watch. i think it's a lot now. yes, my age. i never i never saw, i didn't watch the match. i am 35 years old. yes, that's why i never saw the saw play. i've only seen fiona i've seen as well in the video and all this, but people who are now yes my age and so on are a lot of sports journalist. well done, never seen this amazing. only the brazilian sports journalist alexander yelagin and a colleague commentator, we just we will talk about pilesie today and what is it a myth or really the king of football. you yourself say that there are radio reports on tv. would have seen twice, but at the same time everyone imagines, what is better than him in football. nobody played. why did it happen, firstly, for the sixty-sixth year

, the match with bulgaria was shown by a and the match with portugal . it was a fantastic game, one of the best in general in the history of the world championships. there shining elbert. well, it was not there, just a completely different football. and that's absolutely. well, how how how how so far. uh, they say, well, what i read in the brazilian press, for example, yes, that’s the very thing, the famous newspaper folla foller, they write that my friends santos this is an ordinary team without drinking, as if topoga without hot yes was a beagle. if taga able left pele and there is no santos although only saint should have won the brazilian championship after pellets only when it was from durbinio and that's it. it's true that when pele came in the fifty-sixth year, when he was brought to voldemar de razor, he is still yes, the city of the forest.

he already he already was, where he was already a champion. that's the truth of the championship. there was none like that at the time. there is no need to forget here. it was like a goblet. i can say like a national championship, to be honest, at that time in brazil was the most important thing, and the championship was paul's father. it was the highest level of zammi of the best, which were better people watched the championship, there were no brazilians. and so important this time i can tell you that like 93-94-95, then already people were more interested in the championship of brazil before that there was some kind of regional tournament between the states and so on, and it immediately broke out at the age of 17. the national team, well, even, maybe he got caught by the national team before, the world cup got into the national team, he got into the national team at an incomplete 17. he was 16 years old, he was also born on october 23. that is, this historical date in the history of english football is the foundation of the english football association. yes, he was born

on october 23, 1940, and for the first time he played for the brazilian national team against argentina. was the so-called cup, roca. yes, that's where argentina and brazil yes yes yes yes yes yes yes he made his debut, by the way, he made his debut on the maracana. o in the summer of july 1956 , 1957, at the age of 16, he had not had another 17 years of business. he scored a goal, brazil lost. he came on as a substitute at number 13 aviator. we know about his childhood. here, well, again, there are some charismatic stories, but about how he grew there, how he listened on the radio and dreamed of playing poacher to go out to dad too, when there is a very famous the story when brazil lost the final we cut down, yes, in the tenth year, yes, and dad cried a lot with a saw. you are very upset very sad. and if the table that they drank promised dad. and that i will win

one championship. it's in the movies too. just gave you, as they say. i promise you. and that's all he promised. they are not only one world cup, and therefore there is, well, you also need to understand when they don’t tell me some kind of memphis myth yet that it was happening it was a different time. they had to sow. uh, there was no internet at all, eh radio radio even television is not present in my childhood. ah, what i knew about the saw, here we go out into the yard, we are 6-7 years old there. and we have such a history. here was a saw that could beat the ball a thousand times. and this is what killed everyone. it seemed that this real greatness is stuffed a thousand times on the leg. eh, here. uh, something like that. hmm, you can feel something like that from your childhood. that's when you grew up in brazil and the ticket, when you heard what it is, when that's all who dreams of playing football in brazil everyone dreams of. yes

boys all when in school and so on, what do you want to be football players football players, and has always been a saw. and now, perhaps, a little of this one, because this new generation does not know well who saws speaks more, but alimar, but my time is all. this i think of the brazilian team of the brazilian team and washed down scentus. this is the number. the tenth is also important because it is the number ten, then everything changed now. who? probably, hogentina in france is the most important player and always, but the tenth number. here's how it was perceived then pele here, then, at that time there were many outstanding soviet football players and fillets . against this background, he was like who, like, well, is this ours? clearly opelee is this pele or not? or we played in ivanovo yashina da valentina ivanovna e in streltsovo.

yes, but this is a little later, because, well, i don’t remember, for sure , maybe they played in the fifties, but i was still born a little uh-huh later, and i was still eleven years old at 64, you know? and in the yard we played just here in ivanovo in yashin simonyan. and they played saw. we didn't see him that word of mouth at night radio. we knew the boys of my generation knew three foreign football players. this is pele gorincha and the vulture vulture was the personification of english football pele and the hounds - they were brazilians. now i understand why i, when i began to cooperate with the public professor dynamo ugu in those distant eighties at the beginning, at the end of the seventies, just word of mouth was transmitted and now i understand where it came from. and lev ivanovich filatov from martin ivanovich merzhanov, who were

correspondents at the world championship fifty eighth year. you saw and who saw him live. but those who played because dynamo played. uh-huh viktor grigoryevich tsarev was direct and pele pinned the first match of the world cup veil, because pele and bitterness made their debut at the world cup. how is the third match against e soviet union? yes, yes , it was just the last third match played. we drew with the british 2:2, beat the austrians 2:0, and then lost 02, and now tsarev recalled. i interviewed him, it was amazing kesarev vladimir vladimirovich, they explained phenomenally and how they recalled opele as viktor grigorievich said, when we went out on the field we saw these guys who say such things, cabinets, healthy powerful ones, they all say, we say, literally, the knee-teeth tremble and

i see this against me some boy. here, as small as vladimir petrovich , there were caesars. well, that's what he used to say. very interesting. what manner did he have? well, he says or was a boy, yes , a little bald head, you head is amazing, i say viktor yuryevich here the boy is standing against me, he says, well , then i was happy against him, i will play, but here and what do you think and says, the goalkeeper takes the ball out of the penalty area, but i say i’m getting ready. i'm taking the ball now. and i say, he played well in the main one, he has a height of 176 cm. here was the king. pele navski was 173 for a second. yes , and i say, excellent, i play with my head, i see the ball is coming towards me. this is the ball coming towards me. now i would already have such fat eyes back and forth, to whom to throw off and suddenly, he says, i see, that's how

i show my hand and only i see black. head says, so it goes up up up, opa and says takes off and then i thought, but if you were a free kick, and that would be a goal. and then he spoke amazingly. well, he says, then says the boy was 17 years old, maybe a gap. or maybe i interfered with the myth, and then something, then a goal in the quarterfinals to wales, the decisive trix of france in the final two swords by the swede. uh-huh and the boys are 17 years old 17 years old 200 there for some 43 days who scored, because they haven’t seen each other now, that is, there are a lot of young people who often play for well, at this time they don’t so many, so go they left he is the only young player of the years, which is good, what happens because look 58. he will win 17 years. yes, again, in

modern conditions. we know the name of the football player. yes, he won further than i see, he is either in barcelona or there in chelsea liverpool, and then he disappears from like, well, 4 years nobody knows what 's going on. well, we don't know, at least, well, it's like in brazil some journalist read it and said, for example, a backenbauer or blood, people didn't know what radiated between world championships, because it's not like now, then you can turn off the tv, and all the championships do not give. and after all, you don’t know what to read a fucking newspaper. and as i think they didn’t see it here in russia or in europe, but a ticket, because the brazilian championship was not what the brazilian cup is an important championship one simple thing, it means that we get out or read and heard but not seen. naturally. but what, it means that they didn’t see the fan’s imagination, it’s crazy , just amazing. we knew that there god pele is a thick-legged racer

bubukhin told about this. well , those who were in the fifty-eighth year, who are in the sixty-second year? wow, i've seen it all. they retold all this later, but you forget one simple thing, that we had fantastic ones. journalists are amazing, who in a short article like leo tolstoy, i don’t know how they described mikhail bulgakov grandiosely, how to read it in a few sentences and see something else. i understand what it is about, for example, today you can watch messi's match every day, yes i beat the ticket, and the first athlete who is not on the field, but behind the field , everything is like a martin. he sold. uh, now he was selling coffee. yes? coffee is already a little later it was later. but if you think, i think it's some first star in the world who did this, which is the player on the field. he is a subscriber to contracts so i don't know, but somewhere popular, like it's a brand of

coffee, pancakes, shoes and so on. i think the first one, which is the case, so also unique players, not only on the field, but and after him here, please, take it. mi saying the players are such the greatest football players as blood? like helen with a cannon hmm yeah cruise said literally he said i can introduce myself to distefana. i may be a desefan, but never a pelen who has won three or four european cups with despef in real madrid. he said di stefano is an unrivaled star, where stefano is something like the greatest pele pele beyond classification. and let's

still try an interesting story, because the best scorer of history is, and the second pepe's stage says it, i'm a better scorer. well, that's another story. and how, by the way, did this nickname come from, and before that there was petrol , gasoline played, and he played, he was born in cod, i will pickle him in a baur. it's a city , uh state. san spider. uh-huh came to santos and after them who but before that, when he even started playing sentos. it was gasoline gasoline on portuguese gasoline. fine? opili, which means pele is listened to tribute money. this is his father, he was, uh, a striker in the team you kursan. lorenz was like that, goaltender billy uh-huh billy bill. and when he brought pele to training, he shouted bey to him and dandinyu shouted to the son of the bey billy bay, you know, since he,

well, maybe not very well, understand? he was screaming or drinking. catch drank catch and he, as it were, mimics him, the goalkeeper kid. you will be drinking. well, this is what they drank in portuguese in russian in english wednesday gazulina in portugal i don’t know in other countries how he would fight at first, he categorically did not perceive. at first he wanted to be named. yes, i wanted this dream, you know what face? so go sleep, he has the same in the metric in passport. no. no, they named edison rankatu why because at that time there was no electricity in the city, they just gave it at the moment when they brought electricity, when he was born, and then

his father. thought edison thomasson. that's in honor of him and it's just a nickname for me, this plane is always like that, when he died, everything died. these, because he died or did not die. yes, it will be beautiful forever. let's try anyway. uh, to talk a little about how he played football, because we well understand what messi does on the field, how he plays ties the ball to left a little went we all know and we see what cristiano is now in world football pele let's talk about how the great did it at that time and opele is a very strong player, because he even remembers, when the first one played there were not even different cards and yellow card. and there are brazil-portugal matches, the world cup, that they do it for the first time. if now it was five or six yellow cards, well, yes, it’s just that they beat him like that,

scolding him, he also sawed a great one, yes, therefore, well , look, it was today. i think it would be 5 yolks that they were made exactly to me to make a mixture of messi and not to do. anyway, now it’s not at all, because there are maps, but it’s two people watch it brazil, portugal have killed and even he got polly, he even said that he would play more at the world cup yes, yes, yes, yes, in mexico, watch in 2010 year that which cannot be kneaded, and that the peasants cannot. yes, he played in goal. you know what he was. yes, he was a goalkeeper, he played in goal three times in the semi-finals. they met with thunders. this is a legendary game legendary, when they won in the semi-finals. uh, this time, yes, in thunder, they look like three one santos

when they arrived, and santo for a small town, and santos to sampal is there under 50 km, but it’s like that in a straight line there is even less there, yes, up to the father, but they played islam naturally they played rmb was they played. yes, of course, in this huge stadium , santos is on fire one three. time there very good players were very strong teams in all my memories, you know, and with the score pele makes a cunning dad scores too they win four or three, but 5 minutes before the end of this match, gilmara zhurnar, played for santos , gilmara is removed into the goal, pele gets up, pellet did, makes two saves. he pulls out two balls from the bottom corner. but as tikhonov remembers, of course, yes, and he drags the ball from the top nine or here you are, and the most fantastic match, where they played at the gate. it's already

a trick, coach, when well november 19 you have , uh, flag day. yes, brazil, yes, yes and just on the nineteenth of november, the ticket scores its thousandth year, but it just was just the same there russian journalists. or countdown you know how many 998 999 are left there, or naturally they wanted the saw to score a thousand a year. yes, of course, nowhere will it be before. brazil essentos. played against yea yea yea yea yea he was his against baye quite right against a fighter very interesting because he almost scored a goal for shinki saved and and the fans started to get offended by his defenders because they wanted to score thousands of goals against him was 999. yes, the defender took the ball off the line. yes, this is history. and why did

he score on the maracana against you, a penalty and bro, argentinian, goalkeeper, endorant dissatisfied can not watch when he was crying crazy just. well, footage. well, these frames are here yes, yes, yes and then, look at another such moment, the growth of his ark again. three more as he jumped. there's a photo that just shocked me he's playing against a friendly game, whether against ireland or somewhere else they're somewhere in europe tour of the brazilian national team the goalkeeper is jumping, he's six inches two inches tall. yes, somewhere around 189 cm, goalkeeper. so he stretches out his hand break away from the lawn by 20 centimeters . uh-huh is chasing the ball. well, imagine, then, how much is plus , probably in 40 centimeters. yes, probably, how many half a meter pele's hand jumps 173

cm. he plays this ball with his head. i wouldn’t have believed it if i hadn’t seen it, he scored with his head that 18 goals with his head, for example , the speed is a strong, powerful player, a good header now in the modern mind of pele always goes in conjunction with the young. here's how it came about. do you remember well this very interesting attitude of maradona's saw was at one point when they didn't even talk, but at the beginning, a count magazine wanted to meet with maradona and filet in argentina's largest very good value in uh. in the beginning between them between them, and then you don't know that maradona had a lot of problems. no, the very best state said a lot of bad things, but opelle.

they were more given in the press as rivals. yes, there is maradona here even if they didn't play against each other uh-huh well, at the beginning of a good relationship there was a moment when maradona was a very thing, even on the internet i say. everything, it was also argentine the press wrote maradona better than saw maradona better than saw fans of brazil against ma- maradona fans from argentina against pale, but the relationship deteriorated a little, but there was a very famous moment, which is now commercials everywhere, when maradona invited. hello, there was a transfer, there was a night of business, yes, night 10 in argentina , which maradona beat the host, he invited them , i talked for 30-40 minutes, then we played. ah, a little bit of football and i think after that

the relationship has already become good, yes, then they met in europe without a draw, i think it was the last meeting. maradona was here in russia zherdevka. the maradona championship kisses. eh, head. look , the maradol did not hit, which means the world championship was in the seventy-eighth year, the minute he sat down the last moment he had. also, in general , almost 17 years old, very young, he could enter the dream of mobile, but in the seventy-ninth minute he leads the youth team of argentina. notti was already the champion in 702. yes, there were others. there were other heroes in seventy-eight. mario campress was there. leopold luke was there, you know 79th at molodezhka , the argentine national team plays in japan against the soviet union , they win 3: 1, but i'm not talking about that, what number was the tenth madoradon? yes, the tenth is all here.

there are no questions. what number to give the tenth? because it's the fillet number. this is a sign of quality, it means that maradona, willy-nilly, did not know that this was god's number. how was the fate of pele after he ended his career, because he did not become a great coach, although it seemed. well, it could be. yes, he went into politics. yes, he is a humanitarian of sports in brazil when president fernana ricky cardoso. there is a very important moment when he was the minister of sports there in such a pele and it is for a compliment that everything has changed and spoiled in brazil i make sports more professional. this is a very important moment has changed how the market players inside. how much should i pay how much should i not pay, and they usually changed, and the laws make sports more professional. but

then they say that pele and as a politician? yes, this is the most important moment when it appeared, and the law of the saw. he never wanted a coach. oh, i'm a very interesting moment, also in 94 he works with me a well-known tv channel in brazil and the final, brazil yes, yes, and there is a very leading very famous golf player. uh scream. this means four times the world cup, and it's great there. leo also saws china together, so also at some point, uh, a commentator, but a businessman, but with football you don’t want to become a coach. why is character here? because they worked for him, he probably worked, yes, then you wouldn’t have anything to do with not every player here. he may become his own character. and how can i say, maradona, i'm just

i can say what i think. probably now more, but they didn’t respect the ticket, just as they didn’t like pele in brazil - it’s definitely not like pele in brazil, like the argentines love maradona , even bill is very pop and very sad and very offensive moment fringe pele no world champion in 2002 bill is there and toja maru silva 94th was very disappointingly a lot of criticism in brazil because the journalists say you play for the national team that has five players of this brazilian national team so well-known team. most the most famous most popular teams in the world and washed down and you didn’t go there, it was very disappointing. i don't know why, but they love the young virginia very much, because they didn't brazil like that,

here, here, which he said, here. grushinsky festival see bard song one really i was when in rio de janeiro. i saw everywhere aerosenon everywhere just yes peleya i have to look, and this is a big thickness, and the gong formula 1 and the stage died during the race, so without a superhero, and lu- people never had such an image that pele is a superhero superhero superhero , probably now as he died, but always will be said, opel should be done here exactly pele street and he is generally in the countries during his life. i think they didn't like this country that much. i don’t know why, but, in my opinion, they wanted it back in brazil, mi mi. how can i say this, i don’t respect a person in life, when you died, you ’re downright. well, how do they say? i think

differently i think. well then, i'll explain. so i'll tell you in argentina in argentina , almost all football is focused on slime battles, but all the teams are all great teams they race with luggage guys. they are all deadly old either or either in the suburbs in brazil in any state. there are stars. pele is sao paulo, and that is not sao paulo. forgive me because sao paulo has its own football club pavlo himself but where does jal masantos come from? for example, i have a strange thing, then all over the world they were very respected, they loved very much, in my opinion, people loved burning more and already jenner is the god of brazil but this is very strange for me. now they say more respect. well, that's kind of weird. i think in brazil we are not so loved not so respected this

man when in life. pele's departure for brazil is what it was a national mourning. it was very very four days, in my opinion, yes, three three three days it was three days in the country, and the city centus of the week, but logical. yes , people were beaten in shock, but i think they, as they were not told before, were in shock and the son’s zirte was when it was then that his son died. yes , during the race, 90's san marino. it was may 1st a national holiday, and in brazil all of the formulas looked very popular. he was about 40 in brazil years ago, high level. the best moment of my life has died. azalea died tragedy yes, it was not visible, everyone was crying, even i

remember, i was crying. i remember everything i did. it wasn't me crying. i was gone for 7 years. uh-huh and now i can't say something is mourning. it's sad, but it's not a tragedy. everything was ready for this 2 years. yes, because the people were ready. i can say so, yes works a lot of time editing in brazil when their son died there, nothing was ready. everything must be quickly done gases and write everything, and already the obituary is ready, right? i'm ready now. yes, that's why it's mourning. it's all so sad, but i can't say it's a tragedy. you do not forget that he caused a very big offense to the brazilian fan. what's the matter is that he refused to play at the 74 world championship , if he had won back, he played his

last match, as he told everyone in the first year and tied up with the national team, he continued to play on his own and at 75 he moved , and he went into space with a scandal. well, he really needed to earn. it's already there, in order to somehow provide for himself and his relatives for many, many years, moreover, in america he was offered fabulous contracts at that time. but the sample was lost in the seventy-fourth year. they didn't even take bronze. the poles, they were beaten in the match took away. yes, in germany and the brazilians approached the burnt out, well, it was not played. if you played, we would become champions and indeed. did you know that pili wanted to return to the national team in 1982, he offered the body of santana. himself, well, how old was he 42 years old, yes fortieth of the year. no, to play in the place of the central

defender, oddly enough. uh-huh yeah but this story is what we want to play. uh, in germany it was time for the military states to brazil, he said enough already. i don't want to fulfill you there came others there, yes there is no. no, there was another one, there was only cardos, or that someone came, uh, another, and they persuaded him. he was very strongly persuaded to play in the seventy -fourth year. it was no longer. the dictator was already different uh this time yo-my, but he categorically he said three people. all the search continues anyway. if anything, a ticket, yes , and each generation gives new players. yes, it is right now. actually, and as, probably, the marker of this player is close to pele, this is a ten, of course, of course. it's a hitter i did, but i didn't do anything. yes, how did you move? well, really. well , such as blood or like maradona, this is a single instance. that is, in general, uh, such. well, pele is generally standing somewhere there, that

's where he is, well, yes, above all, above all of them , apele, by the way, pele is about himself said that he is not a striker pele said i am an attacking midfielder. he liked to play, a little behind. he didn't play on the cutting edge. yes, that is the tenth sample of the world championship 11 number yes, and the tenth number this year was one player who could not even the tenth year. of course yes. yes, yes, yes, this is what it is, yes, yes everything is yes, because there were no donmars in the brazilian national team by dozens of parents. it can be said that in france the wife was the tenth. yes, yes, although very good very

good for sure, but this is the most important number in brazilian football. this is number 10. actually, you know, it struck me. not so long ago i saw such a compilation of his actions on the field, and in comparison with modern players, you look at what messi cristiano mbappe is doing. uh, a little earlier, again, they remembered the blood with incredible feints. he did it all. everything you say is the tenth thing, that everything is done. yes, this very stunned is very interesting, yes , which will not show what the ticket did, and then messi yes, yes, this is the moment when he did not score, which means the tenth russian championship they are playing. tired of making a pass to pele , tired of making a pass to the saw, yes, and two points

in this match, one hit and the other. yes, this is the right moment when it began to make the paz forward. yes, on the saw, the vertebrae run out on to pele and to the ball on the saw. this is how the mazurkiewicz runs. that's how the ball goes pele does so he runs past the mazurkiewicz, and we imagine on the sword and the mazurkiewicz, stunner. he doesn't understand what's going on at all. stop where, because the ball runs around pele and goes even further, he runs around the mazurkiewicz, catches up with the ball, and in the fall takes in the far corner, 24 5 cm. this is this this is, of course, beyond the mind. yes, that's not able to not ronaldo, not the chest. i didn't see it, but i didn't. and i watched a lot of bachi. i believe that after our podcast, people will go looking for pele's matches and see what he was like.

indeed, now you can find from this you can get the channel will show it ticket kirill thank you voice acting brilliant about what alexander thank you very much for the time?