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Understanding 9/11tv Anti Feik 1TV February 2, 2023 9:20am-9:55am MSK
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far from being the first to fall for their bait, even heads of state came across, for example, the pole anzhi and duda the american. maybe he could suspect something was wrong with his vigilance, the interlocutors lulled him with flattering speeches. oh, any very wise people, considering you one of the smartest smart people in american politics , petro poroshenko, on whose behalf the pranksters called the ex-official, also recently became the victim of a similar hoax. recognizing in conversation. for example, that the minsk agreements were just an attempt to drag out time, and now it becomes clear that both washington and peace negotiations. rated low all these years. we used the minsk agreements to build up stockpiles of weapons . the american administration knew this too. yes , i believe that we probably made mistakes during the period when you were president, we should have provided even more weapons then. i think that putin took the minsk agreements as a matter of fact. knowing
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that russia has russian national interests in what is happening in ukraine , national interests come out only with the americans, a statement quite in style john bolton, who is convinced that the united states is a superpower that has allowed everything, but even this power has its own problems, and for ukraine this is another cause for concern. we are now entering the presidential campaign. it will last 2 years november 2024. and this has its own difficulties, because people will talk about the internal problems of the country to make sure that the americans think in the elections, first of all, about ukraine now. this will surely become the main task of kiev and its overseas supporters pavel krasnov the first channel. and the details of the pranksters' conversation with john bolton, right now in the anti-freak program. i say goodbye to you until we meet on channel one.
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this question with a special meaning pranksters vovan and lexus talked with john bolton about what nato will do. why does ukraine help ukraine more and other frank confessions about important world events from the lips of the former us national security adviser. in general, we will listen and analyze today in the program. this is an anti-fake program here we are fighting against fakes and disinformation in our studio today konstantin dolgov political consultant director of the center for situational analysis alexei stolyarov pro lexus journalist and vladimir kuznetsov prank journalist. vovan is happy to welcome you to our program, we , too, if you appear, then there will be a serious conversation on behalf of some allegedly
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serious person with another, supposedly serious person. right? i think no one can imagine better than you who is with whom today and what is about today we have an ex- national security adviser to the president of the united states donald trump and we talked with him here are the faces of the former president of ukraine petro poroshenko well, according to legend, petro poroshenko plays his own game and also wants to help ukraine there in quotation marks and collects some kind of help builds bridges and, accordingly, also talks about the real situation, supposedly real the situation on well and wants to know the opinion of just here his former foreign colleagues, and you are planning before the conversation. what was your goal to find out? john bolton is such a hawk of american politics. he was and under reagan, he was also a senior deputy secretary of state, then he was also the us permanent representative
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to the un that is, he always held some posts somewhere and all the time under such republican regimes it was militant, of course, we were interested in what happened very recently when he was an adviser to trump. well, of course, and poland and the allies. e. it was important for us to understand this. uh, what role does john bolton play? let's watch the first excerpt of this conversation. we must strike at all mollians. so if you go to poland you can be sure that in any case my party supports you. okay, i guess the poles did their best to get a boost in arms supplies from all the allies, but even their requests were denied in washington was the first idea to hand over the polish megas even anthony blinkin secretary of state publicly announced that we would hand over them and then the biden rejected this idea poroshenko comes in by calling on the us
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to actively support more. come on, tell me, well, we said that if more intervenes in this conflict, then here, actually. here is bolton's request to assist in this matter. but we hear that bolton says that even the american administration is not ready there to facilitate the transfer of aircraft for the ukrainian side, but we remember that they were hymers in their time, they did not want to convey how the situation is constantly changing. and who knows what will happen in the future konstantin poland is actively helping ukraine for what purpose they are pursuing there? yes, alexander, you absolutely rightly said they help ukraine more, but by whose hands do official warsaw prefer to help. e, anyone's, but not his own, e, causes. e, of course, tenderness, then like polish politicians. they put pressure on official pearls and literally demand that leopard tanks be sent to help the kiev regime, but at
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the same time, uh, the poles themselves are in no hurry to spend money. so why waste your money? zloty? yes, for some kind of help to ukraine, that is, they want to collect some kind of cream. uh, to benefit, ah, but the poles want everything to be done for them. and what did alexander do, uh, what is such an age-old dream, uh polish panship is to return their lands, uh , in the west of ukraine, and this is the word that is in the polish language the word cattle. e, translated as scott e, few people know that it is used in two meanings, that is, the poles called their serfs that way. uh, in the territory, uh, which is now controlled by ukraine, and they, of course, dream they have just such an age-old dream. i’ll return to my estate, become landowners again, so that the ukrainians, peasants, lads bend their backs on them. lvov.
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polish land they say and wait when, uh, well, a typical polish story, when someone does it with someone else's hands and presents them , uh, on a silver platter, the minimum they claim is five regions of western ukraine , the maximum is under the dnieper, including , kiev it seems to me that they consider this side, as this part, as such a buffer zone , where they would like to have some kind of control, so that no conflict comes to the real territory of poland, and therefore , as the former minister recently admitted, lvov foreign affairs all kursk is that indeed in the early days they considered such options, you speak excellently, let's listen to him, there is just a speech. we have this speech and the statement of sikorsky. do you believe that the government of the justice party at some point thought the partition of ukraine? i think that at some point it hesitated for the first 10 days of the war, then no one knew how everything would go, that it was possible, ukraine would fall. now we know who is
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in power. for the poles, this is the party of law and justice. this is konchinsky. yes? one of such, too, and the right hawks naturally. here they profess just the ideology of the need to return a hundred. territories, but returning them is not the case. simply, they are also not completely idiots, because this territory , after all, needs to be at least somehow maintained. uh, the economy in poland is also not so good, so having some kind of buffer zone away from russia pushes the whole territory. it's more of a realistic option that they considered. let's look at the following passage, just your conversation. yes, where exactly we are talking about russia. you know, i really hope for the patriot f16 complexes and from max that long-range missiles will be able to hit the russians. as you know , we are now conducting many operations together with the special services. they help us a lot. i
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don't think it's realistic to say that ukraine can only fight on ukrainian territory, what you have to decide. what targets do you want to hit? make sure it will do you good, but definitely in the rear of the immediate vicinity from russian troops in donbass there are many targets you can hit that you can undermine their combat capability, and i think this is a way to show political pressure on putin in moscow at the expense of the collapse of russian troops in ukraine. yes, i 'm talking about their real border. i think that you should be allowed to cross it and strike at the forces that are involved in the conflict in ukraine is just legitimate self-defense, the idea is that you cannot strike back at russian territory in self-defense. just very unfair. here a very good phrase was you should be allowed. that is, as it were, it is clear who decides the character that you love very much makpole his statement about f-16 fighters. how to start a breakthrough in ukraine against incrementalism
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michael mcfall, such an article, on january 30 , 23, pilots of the armed forces of ukraine should begin training in flying f-16 jet fighters. as a result, either for the conduct of hostilities in the later stages of the conflict, or for the purpose of deterrence after it the end of the ukrainian air force will have to switch from aircraft to soviet and russian production to us-made fighters . if ukraine gets its order for this military equipment, then president vladimir zelensky. you will have to sign a legally binding agreement prohibiting the use of received aircraft to hit targets on the territory of russia, since maxfol. you know very well. yes, that's what he talks about in this article. well it's such a cautious reaction from the democratic party that they don't want to as if they don’t want an escalation of the conflict, because then they themselves will have to disentangle, because russia, of course, will respond to what will happen if some strikes lose the territory of russia, moreover, if this is
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done by american weapons, and this , of course, it will entail serious consequences , of course, the democrats are afraid of this, because the democrats are in power, but you see bolton, a person who claims to be the president of the united states is not at all shy. let's hear the answer to the question about help politically speaking, the west is taking credit for nato unity more than we deserve. because overall assistance to ukraine was at an acceptable level, but they are at the highest level, many nato members did not participate fully. i just think that our actions to enforce the sanctions were not what they should be. we probably made mistakes during the period when you were president, we should have provided even more weapons then. i wonder if he mentioned some countries nato members who did not help enough during this period. this is a european ally - this is
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, first of all, france germany, as he said, what if scholz put a certain amount there, what he will allocate. uh, from the german budget to the nato budget, but he doesn't. macron, he also promises something, and uh, he really doesn’t like those statements that sometimes flared up there in france germany that it is still necessary to sit down at the negotiating table alexander well, this is such an uh, slightly hypocritical position of a crocodile, a crocodile you are tears. he regrets that nato allies did not provide adequate assistance. e ukraine, he is talking about the united states now, because, and america in this case, e does not want to help on its own. this is money weapons. this is also money. yes, what does washington want for germany france, as the locomotives of the european union, to be spent on the conflict in the territory of the former e, ukraine and, accordingly, america extracts all the cream from this, and
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europe bears the expenses, and political scientist mike harris from the usa is with us now, let's, let's listen to his opinion about modern us policy towards ukraine and the eu i'm mike and let me ask you john bolton what kind of policy is this? what kind of person? well, i can say that i don't have a very good opinion of the bolton. uh, i think he's behaving very negatively in terms of the international agenda. and in fact. this is uh man. eh, very short sighted. i do not know who appointed him, but he is absolutely wrong. uh, us foreign policy , what chances does he have in terms of the upcoming us presidential election as kandi no definitely won't win. he is undeniable, but
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he does not understand. how can one develop a country, how to pursue an internal policy, how to develop the economy, he has to destroy foreign countries, foreign economies, but he is undeniably not suitable for such a post. i ask, and biden is suitable, in fact, exceptionally. that's one main reason why now in office is from the country, but the democratic party. i mean, they just stole the elections and now the country has been mismanaged for a very long time and uh message. let's restore jobs, use industry to restore the country we now have migrants who are in the country and the policy is aimed at closing the border and so on, in other words,
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a fairly large number, and problems, including, of course, social tension, which we're watching on this, either this whole thing will change, or we'll, uh, have a brand new government. but we sometimes hear a polar opinion that the americans are dissatisfied with the supply of weapons to ukraine and in general, with what is happening now in ukraine, there is another side, which says that the americans do not know at all where ukraine is located, they absolutely do not care what happens there. that's what the mood is actually now in american society among ordinary people, what they think about it. many of us support uh svo, which is pursuing russia because it is not really in the interests. uh, the states manage the funds and we in the form of an event took place in 2014 and they say with this what they want
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support democracy, in fact, they are lying, they are cheating. they destroy democracy. this is a tragedy for a lot of people and most americans. in fact, they treat russia very well and consider russia as an ally, as a friend. thank you very much, we heard from the words of the american colleague quite balanced , adequate and benevolent. as it seemed to me in relation to russia, to the russian people, the position. it's nice that there are such people in america. he says there are many such people. well, god forbid, uh, here are some interesting ones questions. when i listened to your conversation with him. this is the question of nato accepting ukraine and georgia into nato yes, that's just part of the conversation. we will now listen and discuss whether the younger one proposed to accept ukraine and georgia into nato under accelerated procedures. and it was rejected by the europeans. i think if we did it then. didn't invade. i think
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the minsk agreements were another sign of weakness on the part of the west that putin took as a de facto admission that russia has russian national interests in what is happening in ukraine and i think that their last mistake was the withdrawal of us and nato troops from afghanistan in the summer of 2021 . i think that was what convinced putin that biden would not oppose him. and at that time it was only a matter of time. probably the most important thing that he said now is that the minsk agreements were beneficial to russia, but in fact they were, of course, beneficial, because they provided peace under them, peace would be fulfilled if they were fulfilled, yes, in europe was it is unprofitable for the conflict to be resolved, for ukraine to become a demilitarized country, so that there are no military clashes there, and this is the mistake of the west and vidit, and merkel herself has now stated this
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yes, we signed them, but we signed them for the wrong purpose in order to then somehow try to comply with them. and about nato and georgia's admission of ukraine to nato here, as it were, which is also possible for our viewers in more detail. well, here is a typical exterminating position that these are not needed as it is called the gray zones of belarus moldova as he says that and here are the countries where some conflicts are now taking place, let them be admitted as somehow canned, but because of the nato charter, but according to the charter, you cannot accept. uh, hmm country in uh, to this organization, when there is some kind of conflict about plans in belarus from this character, we will talk right after the advertisement. awakening is necessary for this, such tests are given to remember the feelings that we once had and understand that what we feel now is the premiere of a serial film.
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we continue this anti-fake program, but let me remind you that in our studio the prank journalists vovan and lexus and konstantin dolgov are political consultants. today we are analyzing your prank, which took place on behalf of petro poroshenko with former us national security adviser john bolton and let's start listening and analyzing the next fragment. well, you know, yes, we counted on you much more than the european union we hope that we could weaken putin, you should have made sure that lukashenko was not there either. you met him. so this was a chance, and i talked to tikhonovskaya, she really hoped for a regime change. and what went wrong
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? well, i suppose that i went to a meeting with lukashenka to evaluate? can we get him to turn his back on moscow and i really believed that nato created this problem in many ways by stopping its expansion and leaving a gray area, but in moldova by allowing belarus to ukraine, thereby allowing the russians to create problems there, and i know that you tried to force lukashenka to abandon the idea of unity with russia a. then he simply rejected the idea. yes, i could not understand, was he honest with me or not, but when the anti-lukashenka forces appeared, you know, i certainly supported their aspirations. so that was another opportunity that i think we missed, but you helped uh, those too so what if you could help her a lot more. i think we could
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achieve more. yes, i think we can still do a lot to lukashenka, as you know. yes , he hosted john bolton. and there, uh, as we hear now, he declares that we came for one purpose, to understand. will lukashenka be able to turn his back on russia in order to win him over to his side? and what does it mean if the president of belarus understandably began to look towards the united states, we ourselves saw what happened in the end. what were the protests and as soon as he wavered a little, he only had to change his mind, as they would immediately ate. this was the cunning plan that he planned from the beginning, as it is known, john bolton was engaged in coups d'état around the world. and so belarus was part of the plans of the united states at that time, so that in the future such an ally, which we now have a union state, but in the future had
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no prospects, america had a big plan , yes, of course. the first step was to quarrel belarus with russia and then carry out a coup d'etat, when lukashenka would not have an ally there from, let's say, from older brother. there is another very interesting continuation, where bolton says that, well, there we wanted to see, of course. uh, lukashenka, who hangs on a rope in front of his own palace, and it’s good that he said this directly, because, well, we wouldn’t know why this visit was made, then we’ll remember that bolton constantly traveled somewhere, then he will come to armenia, then somewhere else. well, on the example of alexander grigorievich , we see what goals he pursued. wow serious characters, well, he is experienced, of course such an official, because you will be able to work for reagan and also in the state department under bush sr., and he then held the post of deputy secretary of state for international
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organizations, which, by the way, nato is, that is, this is the person who managed to work with everyone in essence republican administrations and the us permanent representative to the un that is, this is the man who he defended the american invasion of iraq in every possible way. yes, that is, such a hawk, and the us ambassador over there is a person who is still part of the administration. eh, it's the government american. that is, this is not the last person. and that is, having managed to stay afloat even after that and take a post under e, trump, yes national security adviser, who is, in fact, such an executive director of the human security council, who coordinates the activities of all special services of all law enforcement agencies and is engaged in planning such strategic planning america's warfare let's watch the next snippet. i think putin is trying to make efforts to split the western alliance or break
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the resolve of the ukrainian people through this strike on the infrastructure, which i think will not succeed, or break the resolve of the europeans and some people in america and i think that for the next three or four months it should be mainly worried about this, but i'm more worried about our friends in western europe and because of the natural gas pressure and the recession fear in europe i think we should focus on increasing the pressure of economic sanctions. i don't think we 've done enough to enforce sanctions. i think that russia continues to bypass them. i think this latest idea of capping the price of russian oil will help them avoid the sanction. i think china helped a lot in this regard, i think we need to strengthen the political resolve of the west because it is very clear that this is a critical military confrontation for ukraine , the most important thing here is that he says
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that sanctions are ineffective those sanctions, that europe is doing, they do not work properly and therefore it is necessary in every possible way to somehow it is the united states that coordinates its activities , but when bolton says that sanctions do not work. eh, this is a double-edged sword. he uh, which means that uh is not enough uh, sanctions are imposed by european countries against russia of course, european countries do not want to impose sanctions against russia, they are forced by the governments of european countries, which governments are guided by washington, i am closely following the situation in germany actually by the nature of their occupations, so i can say that the pressure that renders german industrial. on scholz on berberg, it is simply colossal, and olaf is trying to maneuver, which means that between the pressure of washington and the pressure of businessmen, businessmen do not want to leave the russian market. and when we talk about the fact that german companies have left the russian
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market. no, some left, others stayed later, and here are those that remained, they show us more, they say. but what fools, what is a huge capacious market, and where is the money? yes, where there are orders, we will not leave, you will leave, and we are like this they wept, as the people say, to the question of the independence of germany of some kind, yes, and its independence, this is not the industrialists. there are ordinary people who, of course, are worried at all these factories that produce products and, uh, let's not forget that germany is a german economic miracle after the war years, and it took place largely thanks to our gas. e inexpensive gas plant is a huge industrial power. produces, uh, all consumer goods, which, among other things, were supplied in russia, and this chain is very difficult to break. do you remember when our president proposed. in the great european space from lisbon to vladivostok, the registra was
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primarily about economic ties. and america doesn’t need this in a nightmare. it needs a non-subjective europe . why are they pushing every european country, and especially the nato country, to supply almost all of their weapons to the kiev regime so that they are all left without an army, without weapons, without tanks, without aircraft , france germany other countries in their soldiers. find not worry, we will give you soldiers, we will supply you with weapons, we will earn money on this, but the most important thing. how about? what conditions of international politics can be dictated by a country that does not have its own army question immediately schultz and how many divisions do you have? no, just sit back and be quiet. let's watch the next snippet and discuss. and in the event that ukraine was admitted to nato, and i wrote it in the constitution. as you know, this became part of our constitution, it was necessary to act faster, and when russia was weak, nato had great successes. it's a pity that we couldn't make it until 2020.
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yes, i think finland's decision to sweden to join nato proves the assertion that when a country becomes a member of nato it considers itself completely immune to attack from russia so in 2008, when george jr. offered this opportunity for ukraine and georgia, it should have been seized then i am sure that in this case we would not see anything like what happened in 2014 or this year. uh, it's important to me to continue to put military pressure on the russians. i think this the war can be won it is important to stop the attempts of the french, or anyone else to try. negotiations with the russians a couple of weeks ago, the finnish prime minister was asked how it would all end in ukraine, how it would end, and she said how it would end. this will end when the russian troops are withdrawn from the territory of ukraine. here's how it will end? well , it is clear that the united states is pursuing its own
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interest and some kind of peace here, uh, which is periodically there. yes, we hear some hints from different european ones. e partners. they are still there slip. well, here is the position, in principle, i think that bolton agrees with the us state department that there should be no negotiations. that is, we must survive everything that is possible from ukraine. we remember very well that there were attempts to negotiate from the ukrainian side. but these attempts, of course, were prevented by the west in the first place. and who prevented, well, britain and the united states, because when the europeans began to lead some. in the negotiation dialogues the us immediately saw in this that it would not be in their interests. is not will weaken europe in the first place, because europe will thus pass over to peace. it will not help the us military-industrial complex in this way.
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uh, europe will end this conflict, and of course it is beneficial for the united states to organize, probably, the second marshal plan in order to supply it economically in the same way, put it on its own, let's say , needles, so that in the future it will be dependent on america and we will we see great. that is , now these negotiations. why are they not conducted again at the initiative of the united states because the united states does not give these negotiations an entry and about the independence of the entire european union well, not the last person in the united states of america, but directly says that no one will allow them independence, in general, in no way and in any case , konstantin has any comments at all about all of today's conversations. well, of course. well, look, in the end, it is not a conflict on the territory of the former ukraine, it is about the united states for the third time profiting enormously from the conflict in europe. on the continent, the first world war was called the second world war, and the third was also profiting, but
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they want to unleash it so that it does not go beyond the borders of eurasia. it's that, it's the americans that didn't affect britain, it's an island. uh, america is an island, we will sit on the islands, rubbing our little hands, chastising profits . yes, and you are over there. waging war, of course, america is not interested. uh, europe is interested in stopping the conflict. and here i am echoing the demand for the world to hold some kind of negotiations. it's just pressure business circles influence wearable industrialists who are not interested in war. they are interested in living peacefully, trading and mutually enriching themselves normally. basically position. you can sum it up somehow. this conversation with this character, in principle, the position of not akun, we can see, and such characters as bolton, not from the fifth, see that america will lead and dominate, including on the continent of europe, but
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